1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. I'm a little bit of a cross between 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh and Reverend Al Bundy, because I've been there, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: I've seen it, and I'm gonna rant about it a 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: little bit. Don't look back the next time I ask 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: you to open the garage door for me, either, because 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: if you do, you might see the mighty Dodge EMBLA 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: bearing down on you. The car Doctor. You get your 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: mechanic to get a look at these things, and I'm 9 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: going to tell you right up front, if your mechanic 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: says ad, don't worry about it and those parts are bad, 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: you gotta find the new mechanic. 12 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: the phone and call in. 17 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six oh 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: ninety nine hundred and now heee, Ronnie, Hey, welcome, I'm back. Well, 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: actually you didn't know I was going away. I'm on 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: an ny in the Car Doctor. I really didn't leave here. 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: But I left here. I've been away on vacation the week. 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Took the family for some downtime down to the Atterbanks, 24 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: North Carolina. And it was quite a road trip, as 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: you can imagine, as I cruised down thirteen and one, 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: thirteen and ninety five and went through all the parts 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: of the country out that way, and took note of 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: quite a few things that we're going to talk about 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: this that this hour, because I think that's things worthy 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: of note, because it sure is a different world outside 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: of the berg and bubble where we live and have 32 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: the shop. The phone number for the Car Doctor, as 33 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: always is eight five five five six zero nine nine 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: zero zero. The Card Doctor is here to answer each 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: and every one of your questions whatever you've got going on. 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: The website's cardoctorshow dot com. And let me remind you 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: once again that coming up in two weeks, I believe 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: it is two weeks, we're gonna be at the Sheridan 39 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Crossroads in Mahwa, New Jersey, Labor Day weekend, that's Saturday 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: show from two to four pm Eastern Time, going out 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: across the network. We are going to be live at 42 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: the dead Man's Curve Party. Dead Man's CURVEUSA dot Com 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be over there doing the radio show, 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: interviewing people and just watching the events and watching the 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: goings on. It's a thousand plus car hot rod show. 46 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Four funny cars are going to fire up at once, 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: and all sorts of great things, vendors and bands and 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: just a great time. It's a three day event Labor 49 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Day weekend. We will be there that Saturday, and I 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: will be bringing the hot rod and putting that out 51 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: there for display as well. So we look forward to 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: seeing each and every one of you if you're in 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the area. Out on the road, the road trip, the 54 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: American road trip is just a great time. I think 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: I enjoy the road trip, well, I probably do. I 56 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: probably enjoy the road trip more than the actual vacation 57 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: because it's different when you get out on the road 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: and you start to look in the repair shops as 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: you drive by, and the more rural we got the 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: areas of the country we drove through, somewhere a little 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: more remote than others. Obviously, it was interesting. There were 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: three bay repair shops that had one lift, a tire machine, 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: a bubble balancer, and absolutely no computer in the car. 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: In the Shopitol. It was really crazy. It was we 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: were in places that were like a step back thirty 66 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: years ago, forty years ago, and you look around and 67 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: they were working on cars. The newest cars in there 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: were from the early nineties, and that's what was in 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the area. It was in a great economic area or 70 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: a great economic part of the trip. And when we 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: got to the Outer Banks, and after about a day 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: of sitting on the beach and getting bored, I said, well, 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: you know what, let me go out for lunch. And 74 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: I grabbed one of the kids and we went out 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: to lunch. And it was quite an experience. Oh look, 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: I just want to stop in here. Dad just wants 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: to stop in here and get gas. And I stopped 78 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: in at a three bay shop down around Kittyhawk, North Carolina, 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and it was really a step back in time. The 80 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: newest cars in the place were from two thousand, a 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and one something would have been, 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, a fairly new car to them. Not a 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: lot of equipment, real basic stuff. And in talking with 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: the owner, what kind of got my attention was he 85 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: was struggling working on what else a Volkswagon. And I actually, 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: if I take that back. That was a fairly late 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: model Volkswagon because I had an electronic parking brake on it, 88 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: and they weren't used to that. They hadn't seen one 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: of these before, and I just so happened to be. 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: I was road testing a CRP two twenty nine from 91 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: the folks over it launched their scan tools. I said, yeah, 92 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I wonder you know, I had my RA shirt on. Listen. 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: I like, to me, that's that's stress really if I 94 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: go out to see how other repair shops run in 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: talking with Phil, the owner, I went over and I 96 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: got out my scan tool and we plugged it in 97 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: and I was actually able to help him diagnose the 98 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: parking brake release ratchet and help him do the brake 99 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: job on the car before because he was using he 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: was using an older snap on scan tool. It didn't 101 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: have the software and didn't have the updates for it. 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: And the interesting thing to me was I was showing 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: him something like science fiction. He couldn't believe what he 104 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: was looking at. He said, wow, look at this. You know, 105 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the CRP two twenty nine from launch is probably a 106 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: little bit bigger than an iPad and the technology that's 107 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: in it. When I showed him how it updates wirelessly 108 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: over the net and how quick it was and some 109 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: of the special functions it has, and I told him, 110 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: you know, for a tool that's in the five to 111 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars range, you know, you can't go wrong. 112 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: And he was just shocked by it. And in talking 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: with him and his two other technicians, you know, where 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: do you see the future. And they're still waiting for 115 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: the in the numbers for the two thousand and fives 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: and sixes and sevens, for those model year cars to 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: start coming in. And they said people tend to hang 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: on to cars longer. Down here. Their labor rate was 119 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: seventy eight dollars an hour, and they said, we're high. 120 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: That's a lot of money for North Carolina. And you know, 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: as I'm talking to them, I'm saying to myself, seventy 122 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: eight dollars an hour. And yeah, I know, property taxes 123 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: are less, and I'm assuming the building is less. And 124 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to get two much into his cost 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: of doing business, but I'm thinking, you know, when you've 126 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: got to buy that factory level scan tool, when you've 127 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: got to buy that dealer level tool, All of a sudden, 128 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: that five six grand you have to lay out. It 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: is an awful lot harder to make than when you're 130 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: in an environment where the market will bear one hundred 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: to one hundred and twenty five dollars an hour. And 132 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: it brought to mind what I've been saying for years, 133 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: how does the repair shop outside of the large economic 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: bubble survive? How will they survive? And in conversation with 135 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: with with Phil and his guys, they didn't really have 136 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: that answer. They know it's coming, they know it's something 137 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: they're going to have to deal with, but based on 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: their rate of growth and the way he's seeing it, 139 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: Phil doesn't think he's gonna have to deal with it 140 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: for another five to seven years, which, you know, everything 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: happens a lot slower at the outer Banks North Carolina. 142 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, he said, you caught me in the busy season. 143 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: He goes here, we are just before labor day. He goes, 144 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: come back in a month and a half. He said, 145 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: we'll be fishing half today, and you know, there isn't 146 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: a lot else to do because we're in a resort 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: area and everybody is gone, and it just changes the 148 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: way you work on things. He did say something interesting 149 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: to me. He said, it's a lot tougher in the 150 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: last twenty years. He's been doing this a long time. 151 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: He says, it's a lot tougher in the last twenty 152 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: years to work for seasonal or to work on seasonal cars, 153 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: is how he said it. And by that he meant 154 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: that the car that he sees, you know, June, July, August, 155 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: and then he doesn't see it for a year and 156 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: then it comes back, or the car that he's never 157 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: seen and he only sees it once in the middle 158 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: of the summer, his repairs take longer. His ability to 159 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: maintain it and diagnose it and bring it up to 160 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: speed take longer. And I say, yeah, you know, that's 161 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: not uncommon. That's something that is true to the rest 162 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: of the country too, in that I see an awful 163 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of If we don't see the car on a 164 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: regular basis for maintenance, then it becomes a problem for 165 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: everybody concerned. But it was very interesting. Something else that 166 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: I noticed, and I didn't get a chance to really 167 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: stop and talk to them, but the body shops in 168 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: North Carolina. The body shops in North Carolina, you know, 169 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I look at the order repair shops. Most of the 170 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: order repair shops were like New Jersey, three four, five bays. 171 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: There was a couple of chain stores, no name chain stores, 172 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: non brand names. They weren't Firestones or good Years, but 173 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: just names that were, you know, predominant down in the 174 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: Carolina's Down in that part of the country. They had 175 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, twelve bay repair shops, but it was mostly tires. 176 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: It was tires and alignments, truck work, a lot of 177 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: exhaust work. I was surprised at the number of signs 178 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: that I saw that we specialized in exhaust, that they're 179 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: still doing exhaust systems down south. And you know, without 180 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: the heavy snow that we see in the North, with 181 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: salt and rust and corrosion and things like that, they're 182 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: still doing a lot of exhaust because and that shows 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: you the age the population, you know that they're working 184 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: on those types of cars. But what really was interesting, 185 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: and this kind of got me, and I'll be real 186 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: quick here because I know we want to get to 187 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: the phones, is the body shops. Every body shop was 188 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: at least twelve to fifteen cars in size, you know 189 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: the bays. There was twelve doors across the front of 190 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: every body shop. Most of them were two or three 191 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: cars deep and when I was talking to somebody about that, 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: they explained to me. They said, you know, this is 193 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: big business down here. They'll go out to the rest 194 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: of the country. They'll bring in cars that are crashed 195 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: or smashed or you know, damaged. Labor is cheaper down here. 196 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: It's cheaper to pay somebody down here to work on it, 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: and then we'll put it out lined to sell it. 198 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: And that kind of explained it, because I got to 199 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: tell you, there's an awful lot of used car lots, 200 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: used car dealerships in the Carolinas and Delaware, and you know, 201 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: driving down along that stretch of the country, it was 202 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing to me. It seemed that every five six miles, no, 203 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: the used car lot, No, the used car lot, No, 204 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: the used car lot, and that that's a sign of 205 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: the economy. By the way, some nice looking older cars. 206 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: There was more than a few, you know, specialty shops 207 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: that were dealing with older muscle cars that they were 208 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: putting out front, and you would think that it was 209 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one all over again by the number of 210 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Chevelles that I saw on display and just just a 211 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: time capsule and telling you that order repair is a 212 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: national phenomena with regional consequences. Just like I've always said 213 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: from way back when, Hello and welcome ronin Ady and 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at eight five five five six 215 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero, here to take your questions 216 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: and answer them whatever they might be. If you are 217 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: looking for more information, by the way, about the two 218 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine from launch, you can get out to their 219 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: website launch TECHUSA dot com and see what I'm seeing. 220 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: It really was a solid little tool, and Phil was 221 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: very impressed by it, and I wouldn't be surprised if 222 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: I go back there next year. He'll have a launch 223 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: inside the shop. A lot going on this hour. It's 224 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: an interview free hour. I've got a couple of comments 225 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: and thoughts. I've got some articles I want to write, 226 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: I want to read that people have sent in to 227 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: me that we're going to talk about some interesting places 228 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: the radio show has heard this week. We got an 229 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: email from somebody in the Philippines that we're gonna talk 230 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: about and let you know what's going out that way. 231 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eighty 232 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Running 233 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: Anie in the Car Doctor. When I return, We're gonna 234 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: kick the garage doors open. 235 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: Don't go away, so welcome back, run an Indian. 236 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: The car Doctor eight five five five six zero nine 237 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: nine zero zero is the phone number if you've got 238 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: a car. If you've got a problem, give the card 239 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: doctor a call. We'll figure it out together. Let's get 240 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: on over and open the garage doors. Let's go talk 241 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: to Dennis in Maine with a nineteen eighty two Chevelle 242 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: and some overheating issues. Dennis, you're on with the car doctor. 243 00:11:59,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: How can I help? 244 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not an overheating issue. It's the issue is 245 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: Let me just tell the story. Driving around the other day, 246 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: reached over, turned the air conditioning on, and everything lost 247 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: all my power, all my electrical power coasted to a stop. 248 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: I had a dome, light, headlights, that stuff, but no crank, 249 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 4: no gauges, no nothing on the engine end. 250 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Let it. 251 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: Set for about two hours, got in, hit the keys, 252 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: started right up. Run fine. Drove it home next morning, 253 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: got up, started it up, Let it run up the temperature. 254 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: Everything worked fine, cold, Let it get up the temperature. 255 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: Turned it the AC on again, everything run fine. Took 256 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: it down the road four five miles, come back home, 257 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: turned the AC on, same thing, lost everything sept my 258 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: dome light, okay, and I don't know where to go. 259 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Well, and this is a what year card, Dennis? A 260 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two Chevelle. 261 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty two Chevelle Meloblee okay. 262 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: And what engine is in this six eight? 263 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: Was it two? Yeah? 264 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: The vehicle? Okay? Well, the first place I would go 265 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: is I would really want to know what kind of 266 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: shapes the charging system. And it wouldn't be the first 267 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: time that an alternator overheated and reacted to temperature and 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: stopped charging or didn't charge as well, and the vehicle 269 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: started running off the battery. And when you turn on 270 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: the ACA, that extra load to from the electrical system 271 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: drains the battery down to zilch. Has anybody done any 272 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: sort of electrical or charging system test to it? 273 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I put a new battery in it, 274 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: you know when I got it. I've just had the 275 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: thing for a years. 276 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Well, and I don't put I don't know that it 277 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: would be a battery. Of course, obviously new doesn't mean good, 278 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: and I would sure as heck test it. It's a 279 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: quick enough simple test to do a load test to 280 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: the battery. But I would be you know, I would 281 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: I would do a load test to the battery. I 282 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: would be looking at terminal connections. I would be also 283 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: concerned about ground connections where the cable attaches to the block. 284 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: This is a car. This is an eighty two ninety two, 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: two thousand to this car is thirty two years old, 286 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: real quick, at the top of my head. Yeah, so it's. 287 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: Right. 288 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: I would. I would also want to take a look 289 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: at cables and make sure the cables themselves are in 290 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: good condition. Keep in mind, on an older car, you know, 291 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: barring and let's let me just back up a second. 292 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Barring the simple barring that this is an alternator or 293 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: charging system failure. You know, when you get past or 294 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: when the mechanic gets past the Hey, Dennis, the charging 295 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: system is always putting out and it's always got plenty 296 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: of amperage. The current isn't a problem, et cetera. And 297 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: you start looking for the silly stuff. Let's let's start 298 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the cables themselves. When if, for example, 299 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: if the vehicle had a battery that was discharging acid 300 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and the acid worked its way into the cable, that 301 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: cable as it gets hotter, will start to insulate and 302 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: prevent current flow, and that vehicle will have a charging 303 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: and electrical system problem such as you're describing, because what 304 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: you're really describing to me, you're adding an extra electrical 305 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: charge or an electrical electrical load causing the vehicle to 306 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: shut down. How about if instead of turning on the 307 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: air conditioning, you try turning on the high beams or 308 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the wipers, turn on something else with a high electrical demands. 309 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: I've done that, and you know, everything was worked fine 310 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: on it, you know when it got hot. I mean 311 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: when I come home that time, that's what I did. 312 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: I had the head lights, turned the head lights on right, 313 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: that worked all fine, turned them off but the wipers on, 314 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: no problem. But as as soon as I flip that 315 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 4: air conditioner on, and I didn't know if there was 316 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: something in that system that could be you know, well. 317 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: The air conditioning when you're turning on the blower and 318 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: the compressor, that is a very high current draw, typically 319 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: as high as twenty two to twenty five amps on 320 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: a car of that age, So you're putting a heck 321 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: of a drain on the charging system and if it 322 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: can't handle it for whatever reason, I'll tell you what 323 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: I would probably do too, is I would turn on 324 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: every electrical device in the car. It start off with 325 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: nothing and work my way up, and I would monitor voltage, 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: and I would monitor system current to see what the 327 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: alternator is capable of putting out and start to do 328 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: some math and figure it out from there as far 329 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: as what's causing the problem. But it sounds to me 330 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: like either a charging system that can't keep up, or 331 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: we've got a problem with the cables or the feed 332 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: side not able to get enough in to keep the 333 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: vehicle happy. 334 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: Right then, when it cools back off, right back down, 335 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: make the connection correct. 336 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. 337 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: Wow, that's the place to start. That's a place, you know, 338 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: did the simple thing right? 339 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: Well? 340 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: You know, I too ambitious, you know, rambunctious. I want 341 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: to make sure there wasn't any you know, kind of 342 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: an override or something that no, no, uh you. 343 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: Know, unless ay, Dennis, you know, just for giggles, I've 344 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: seen I've seen crazier things. But it's an older car. 345 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: Unless somebody's put an alarm system in this, and I 346 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: just want to throw this in the pot. I've seen 347 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: this before. Somebody will throw an alarm system into the 348 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: car and they'll trigger the alarm system off accessories. I 349 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: was in a sixty six Chevy pick up the other day, 350 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: didn't have a key. They had taken They had taken 351 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: the key and glued a heater control knob to the 352 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: back of it. I sat there looking at the dashboard 353 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: for five minutes, going, yeah, I know there's a key 354 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: here somewhere. It's got to be I remember driving these 355 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: as a kid, So you know, if somebody put an 356 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: alarm system in that, and you know you have to 357 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: turn the AC on in order for the car to start, 358 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to throw that out there. 359 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Probably not, but it's you know, you have to start 360 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: to you know, consider the ridiculous somebody once said to me, 361 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: when you take away the obvious and you know, or 362 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: you take away the extreme wall, that's left is the 363 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: obvious and you can start the deduct from there. And 364 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: that's really what I'm just trying to get you to do. 365 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: But go through a charging system test, Go through a 366 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: charging system test, the battery cables, connections, alternator, make sure 367 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: all that's in good working mortar. And there's one last thought. 368 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: When the vehicle is operating normally turn the directionals on. 369 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: How do how fast do they blink when the vehicle 370 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: as you're if there's a way of time to time 371 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: turn the directionals on. Do they seem like they're slowing down? 372 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: Be mindful of where you turn the directionals on. You 373 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: know what to tell somebody you're making a turn when 374 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: you're not. But it would be a good way to 375 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: look at the charging system or the electrical system to 376 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: see if something is malfunctioning. One other thing you might 377 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: want to do, depending on how deep into this you 378 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: want to get before you turn it over to the mechanic. 379 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: If the car's got a cigarette lighter, you can go 380 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: out and purchase for ten to fifteen dollars from a 381 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: multitude of places a cheap digital vault domemeter, hook up 382 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: a tap, tap it into the cigarette lighter and you'll 383 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: be able to watch charging system voltage while you drive, 384 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: and you can watch it possibly fall off and catch 385 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: it in the act. Dennis, let me know how you 386 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: make out I'm running any in the car Doctor. We're 387 00:18:39,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back five five six zero 388 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero on Monnini and the Car Doctor. 389 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: Real Quick. Volkswagen has joined the list of automakers recalling 390 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: vehicles over airbags. Something important we all need to be 391 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: aware of, all you Volkswagen owners out there. Volkswagen news 392 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: report came out this past week is recalling about four 393 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: under and sixty one thousand plus cars in the States 394 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: in Canada fix a fault that could prevent airbags from 395 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: deploying the world's biggest car maker set on Friday of 396 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: last week that the recall effective BW Golf beside Jetta 397 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: models as symbol between twenty ten and twenty fourteen and 398 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: something to be aware of. So just Volkswagen, everybody's in 399 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: the news lately with airbag problems. I wanted to get 400 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: that out there. I thought that was pretty gush darn important. 401 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones, just going and talk 402 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: to Jim Cedar Rapids. Iyea with twenty ten Toyota Prius. Jim, 403 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help hi? 404 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: Ron? How you know I'm looking to buy Toyota Prius 405 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: at twenty ten and I know average mileage should be 406 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: about seventy thousand, and it's got one hundred and seventy thousand. 407 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: Is that anything to worry about the I hadn't looked 408 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: up the car fax for me, and the car fax 409 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: says to add two thousand dollars to the trading value. 410 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: So it's been taken very good care of. 411 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Right, where does it fall in terms of dollars that 412 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: they're asking versus what it says the car is worth? 413 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: Are you saying that the car is priced two thousand 414 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: dollars under what they're asking. 415 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: No, the car fact says to add two thousand dollars 416 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: to the trade in value. 417 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: Okay, well all right, so but you know what are 418 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: they asking for the car gym? Let's let's do let's 419 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: do it eight okay. And you know how much is 420 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: a comparably equipped same age Prius with one hundred thousand 421 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: miles on it going for? 422 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: Probably probably about eleven or twelve? 423 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I probably spend the eleven or twelve because to 424 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: buy something with less mileage. And here's why. For example, 425 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: this twenty ten with one hundred and seventy on it, 426 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: has anybody has anybody replaced the main battery yet not 427 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: not the engine battery. 428 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: Battery. The main battery is only warranteed for one hundred 429 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: thousand miles or eight years, I think it is. 430 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: Right, that's correct. And is that is that the original 431 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: one that's in there? 432 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: Yes, as far as I know. All right, So they 433 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: all the work that they have done had done to 434 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: the car. They've reported it to Carfax, right, and uh oh, 435 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: they've had oil all kinds of oil changes. They've had 436 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: the tires rotated, they've had a regular maintenance done on 437 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: it or whatever. And and that's why the car facts 438 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: to add so much to the value of it, well, 439 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: creating value. 440 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I've never let Carfax, consumers or 441 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: an information system dictate to me value of a car. 442 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: It's always common sense too. There are a godline, okay, 443 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, they're a guideline. But to sit there and say, yeah, 444 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: it's worth two grand more, and I don't necessarily agree 445 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: with that because the first thing, first thing off the 446 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: top of my head, if that's the original battery in there, 447 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: For conversation's sake, let's say the battery goes another thirty 448 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: thousand miles, So in a year, a year and a half, 449 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: you've got to put three grand in it to replace 450 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: that system battery? Is they're asking eight Now you're into 451 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: the car for eleven All of a sudden, that car 452 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: with one hundred thousand miles on it that you know, 453 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: and and less miles is less wear and tear. 454 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: You know this. 455 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: This would be the same thing as buying a traditional 456 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: gas powered vehicle with one hundred and seventy thousand miles 457 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: on it that had that had oil changes, cooling services, 458 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: all the fluids, the usual good stuff, tires, breaks, et cetera. 459 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: And I would always ask this question if the trans 460 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: failed tomorrow, would you put a transmission and how would 461 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: you feel? And if it's be I'd be upset because 462 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: I had to spend three thousand dollars. My answer is 463 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: still the same, Go buy a car with less mileage 464 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: and spend the more money. Now, it's what are you 465 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: looking to deal with? You know, the car's approaching two 466 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: hundred grand. 467 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Right, yeah? Yeah? Uh? Is it true that anything below 468 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: two hundred is is reasonable mileage for for a five year. 469 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Old car today? You know, if it was well maintained. Again, 470 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at what cars go for, 471 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: that preous news is probably in the low teens, high 472 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: low low high teen's, low thirties. And you know when 473 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: you look what a replacement vehicle is going to cost. 474 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: I always also stop to consider how I'm going to 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: use it. How are you going to use the car gym? 476 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: Are you going to start driving cross country? Or are 477 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: you going to stick around ceedar rapids? 478 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: Eye? I know I drive in town most of the time. Okay, 479 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: so you know you're I don't usually drive in a highway. 480 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Right, So you're you know you're you're not taking any 481 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: great long trips with it. You know you've got you've 482 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: got somebody in town there that can work on a hybrid. 483 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm assuming. 484 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: Uh yes, my regular mechanic won't work on them. 485 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're not. 486 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: They'll work on anything but the transmission. 487 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Right, So who's going to work on it if there's 488 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: a trans problem? 489 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: I really have no ideas so far. I don't think 490 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: I have another friend that has one, and he told 491 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: me there's nothing to worry about, according to the engine 492 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: and the transmission. Hey, that's nice. Is he going to 493 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: tell me that when something happened? 494 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 3: Right? 495 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: You know, you're basically buying a house with a copper 496 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: roof on it, and now you got to find somebody 497 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: to fix it. Hopefully it never looks So let me 498 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: ask you this, what's all the fascination with a Prius, 499 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: not that it's a bad vehicle, but for what you're 500 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: doing for. 501 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 2: Somebody around town to get fifty it's nice to get 502 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: fifty miles a gallon in town. 503 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: Okay, have you noticed the price of gas lately? 504 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going up, isn't it. 505 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Well it's going down. Well on our part of the world, 506 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: it's going on. 507 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Well what here was? It was to eighteen a gallon. Okay, 508 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: so how it's two forty a gallon. 509 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: Here's what I want you to do before you make 510 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: this decision. Go find a comparably similar vehicle mileage condition, 511 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: cost to repair dollars and think about this. If you 512 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: find something similar to that that that's thirty thirty five 513 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: miles to the gallon and the Prius gets fifty two, 514 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: all right, think of what the cost difference is going 515 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: to be for the guy that doesn't take long trips, 516 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: for the guy that spends a lot of his time 517 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: running around in town, and the guy that now he 518 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about finding somebody to fix the 519 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: copper roof on his house because it's nothing special and 520 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: he can maintain relationship with this regular mechanic you know, 521 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: if you were a delivery service and you really needed 522 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: miles per gallon. But at this point, one of the 523 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: things people don't stop to consider is the cost difference 524 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: between conventional gas versus a hybrid. And with the price 525 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: of gasoline being what it is, how much of a 526 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: saving is it really If we're going to make this 527 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: all about numbers, if this is really going to be 528 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: about numbers, then let's make it about numbers. Let's look 529 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: at it from a practical point of view. You know, 530 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: there's a reason that sometimes the numbers themselves just don't work. 531 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: So I'll leave it to your homework, Jim, do your 532 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: math and look at it from that perspective. Closing comment, 533 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: never look at an automobile from an emotional perspective, not 534 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: an everyday driver like this. Try and be mathematical about 535 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: it and you'll come out with a winning combination. Eight 536 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Running 537 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor, We're back right after this 538 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: on the streets. 539 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: Never run away, wont. 540 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 541 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Running any in the car doctor here with you at 542 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 543 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Stanton, Virginia. John talk to him 544 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: about his ninety four to you ot to pick him 545 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: up truck. John, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, Yes, 546 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: thank you, you're very welcome. What's going on here? 547 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: That's uh won't go round to you? 548 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 549 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 5: Uh ahead to the deer. About a year ago, about 550 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: six thousand miles ago, and they replaced a Marster cylinder 551 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 5: and the slave cylinder. And after that I could get 552 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 5: in gear, but it still wasn't satisfied with it. So 553 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: here a couple of weeks ago, gussa would not shift 554 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 5: in the gear again. 555 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: Okay, now does does does the pedal? Does the pedal 556 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: feel normal? 557 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: John? 558 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: John? Does the pedal field normal? 559 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: Now? 560 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: The parataxa ants off the flower, so it doesn't have 561 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't have full stroke on the pedal, is what 562 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: you're saying. 563 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 5: Right, Okay, when you let that on clutch, the taxa 564 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: ants off the floor. 565 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: All right, Well, all right, let me ask the question 566 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: this way. If you push in on the clutch pedal, 567 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: does it have full height and swing? Not talking about 568 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: when does the clutch release or engage? Just does it 569 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: feel like a normal clutch pedal? It does? Yeah? 570 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: All right? 571 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: Did this vehicle sit for any length of time. No, 572 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: all right, it's just one day it woke up and 573 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: it just didn't want to go into gear rate. Yes, okay, okay, 574 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: so you know, if the system is bled, I'm going 575 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: to assume the system's bled properly. You know, there's not 576 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: much here. If someone were to watch the slave cylinder, 577 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: does the slave does the stroke of the slave pushing 578 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: on the fork match the stroke of the pedal. For 579 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: lack of a better way. 580 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 5: To put it, I don't know. I didn't look at it. 581 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, because think about how this works. This is 582 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: all hydraulics, right, You push it on the clutch pedal, 583 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: and the hydraulics, the hydraulic action out of the master 584 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: has to displace fluid and push the slave which is 585 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: like a wheel cylinder. This is like a brake wheel cylinder, 586 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: and move the clutch fork. Does the clutch fork move? 587 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Does the clutch fork move easily? Is the clutch fork? 588 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Is the pivot ball that the clutch fork rides on? 589 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Is that worn? Okay? 590 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: You know? 591 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: Last and I have seen this on vehicles if they 592 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: sat for and sometimes it happens short period, short length 593 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: at time. I don't think this is the case with 594 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: you but I just want to fill your head with 595 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: this thought, is that I have seen where a clutch disc. 596 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: You ever see a clutch disc rust to the flywheel? 597 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 5: Well, I looked on the internet and it said, yeah. 598 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Right, I you know what. I've seen that more than 599 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: a few times where the clutch disc itself physically rusts 600 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: to the flywheel and it drags. Sometimes it's frozen that 601 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: you push in on the fork and it will disengage 602 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: the plate. But the plate the disc can't break loose 603 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: from the flywheel and it won't shift. If you put 604 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: this car in first gear with the engine off and 605 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: start it up with the clutch in, does the vehicle 606 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: still move forward? 607 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 5: It will move, but like just something matter with it? 608 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: It uh up and a large right. 609 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: So so the clutch with the clutch pedal depressed and 610 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle in first gear, if you crank it, the 611 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: vehicle would actually move forward. The starter cranking the engine 612 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: would drive the vehicle forward. Correct statement. 613 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: No, we have a push in on the clutch and 614 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 5: won't move. 615 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that's my that's my question, John. If you push 616 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: in on the clutch and turn the key and the 617 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: engine starts with the vehicle in first gear. Will the 618 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: vehicle move forward? 619 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: Yes, if I get it in gear. 620 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: That isn't what I asked you. Okay, here, let's do 621 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: this one more time. Push in on the clutch, all right, 622 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Push in on the pedal, Put the vehicle in first gear. 623 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Start it, leave the clutch engaged, leave the clutch depressed 624 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: with the engine cranking once it starts. Does the vehicle 625 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: move forward? If the vehicle moves forward, the clutch has 626 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: not disengaged from the flywheel. And now we're back to 627 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: the original part of the question. Is the fork damaged? 628 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Is the pivot that the fork rides on not allowing 629 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: full travel? Is the release bearing damaged? Is there air 630 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: in the system? Is there something limiting the travel of 631 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: the slave? Not to be ruled out. I have seen 632 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: worn clutch linkage, bushings under the dash. I have seen 633 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: cracks in the firewall physically where the master cylinder flexes 634 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: and the full stroke of the pedal is not taken 635 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: up in the slave cylinder itself. But this is a 636 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: pretty basic dumb animal here. This is we're just looking 637 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: at breaks. That's all we're doing. It's all about hydraulics. 638 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Pushing on the pedal, does the slave move one for one. 639 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: Does the work react and move? Does it move smoothly? 640 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: Is it possible the collar or the input collar that 641 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the main shaft of the transits on is gnarled up. 642 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't care what Toyota did. Start to think about 643 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: how the system works, and then let's talk about how 644 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: you've diagnosed it, and let's break it down. And that's 645 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: all I'm trying to get you to think about doing. 646 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: So take a breath, think about what I said. Call 647 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: me back next week, let me know what you do. 648 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: We can talk about this again. Eight five five five 649 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Run an any in 650 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: the car doctor back right after this. Get jung kids 651 00:32:33,960 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: all root six six. Welcome back, running any in the 652 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: Car doctor. By the way, the phone number eight five 653 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero is twenty 654 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: four to seven. That's the car Doctor's number that if 655 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: we're not here on the air, this radio shows live 656 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: in most markets two to four pm Saturday afternoon Eastern time, 657 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: you can call eight five five five six zero nine 658 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Leave a message and fast, Harry. We'll 659 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: call you back and get you in the queue. We 660 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: can talk to you about your car problem. Up here 661 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: on national radio. This article from our good friend Anthony 662 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: out in Chicago. Retired police officer Tony Emilio ron this 663 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: articles from the Chicago Tribune. It's an alarming issue. Like 664 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: you say, is there too much technology and we aren't 665 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: using our brain. Maybe someone should invent the garage door 666 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: opener that opens automatically when the carbon monoxide gets too high. 667 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: That's actually not a bad idea, Anthony. In twenty thirteen, 668 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I purchased a thirteen Toyota Canray for the wife Plaine 669 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: Jane card Nos sun roof. But I did not follow 670 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: your advice in Capital Letters, he writes, and purchased an 671 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: after market remote starter. Well after five events of the 672 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: car starting on its own, the dealer refunded the entire 673 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: cost of the starter. I think the dealer realized that 674 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: the potential problem and envisioned the law, huge lawsuit. The 675 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: rule is listen to the car, doctor, Anthony. I appreciate 676 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: that he goes on to close out. Thanks for your time. 677 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: Myself and the old retired cops from our weekly breakfast 678 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: club really enjoy your show. Thanks again for the T shirt. 679 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Very nice to your friend and loyal listener, Tony Emilio 680 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: out in Chicago. Way, Well, you know what, and listen, 681 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: the card Doctor's not always right. All I do is 682 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: I just relate to you guys things that I've I've 683 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: picked up over time. And what Anthony's referring to Tony's 684 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: referring to is if you are going to use an 685 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: aftermarket remote starter kit, if somebody's going to install it 686 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: for you, get the instructions, get the wiring diagram five 687 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: years from now when they no longer make that kit, 688 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: and you've got to take it into your mechanic. And 689 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: I've been on the I've been on this end of 690 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: the problem way too many times. People bring me a 691 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: car with a remote start issue. I've got no schematic 692 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: to follow. I have to reinvent the wheel and spend 693 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: time learning how the system works before I can even 694 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: diagnose it. And then typically I have to find out 695 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: that the component I need is no longer available and 696 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: I've got way too much time in it. So it's 697 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: easier for you, and let's it's expensive for you. If 698 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: I've got the diagram so that I know what I'm 699 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: looking at and how I'm looking at it before I 700 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: even get involved. Interesting article, by the way, Anthony I 701 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: was reading here kilis ignition Death's part of disturbing trends. 702 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: It talks about American drivers generally had to do two 703 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: things to put their get their car keys out of 704 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: the ignition, put it in park, and turn off the engine. 705 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: But new keyless ignitions are changing that habit. Now drivers 706 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: can walk away with their keyfobs and leave their motors running. 707 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's an issue. People are doing that, and 708 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: some of these cars are so quiet that you can 709 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: hardly hear them running, and it's going to become a 710 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: greater issue with more technology being at it all the time. Hey, 711 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm run any of the car. Doctor reminding you once 712 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: again the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 713 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: See y