1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single. 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Best Idea, an extraordinarily eclectic day on Bloomberg Surveillance one 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: of the high points. Thank you so much in Dallas 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: for listening. We were talking family networth and investment, family office. 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: I should say an investment out of Dallas, and thank 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: you to the person sending her Toado barbecue for the 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Texas Rangers, which is a food that you can't get 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: at Yankee Stadium or a city field or most certainly 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: not at Fenway Park. Really deluxe. I guess you go 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: to the Rangers to eat and then maybe watch a 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: baseball game. Because to the collective group of people. We 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: started strong with Isabelle Matteo Ilago, who did a lot 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: of work with Legarde at the ECB and then went 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: out of Black Rock and now holds court as the 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: chief voy. It's for b MP Pariba, a spectacular French bank. 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: You're thrilled she could join us in studio. Here is 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: Isabelle Monteosi Lago of BNP Pariba. 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: Europe has a Europe when by that I mean the 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: European Commission are true believers in the benefits of free 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: trade and so they embarked in this, uh, these trade 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: discussions or this trade war, so to speak, with the 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: with the US with a view to saying, oh, this 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: is going to be great. We're going to offer to 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: lower our tariffs and the US is going to lower 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: their tariffs and we're going to end up with more trade. 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: This is going to be awesome. And it seems they've 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: realized in the course of the last few weeks then actually, 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: this is not really what the US wants, uh, And 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: so now the discussion has got very much more concrete 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: to trying to do damage limitation. Maybe that's one way 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: to to to to put it and accept that tariffs 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: from the US are probably going to be higher, but 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: let's see what we can do to minimize the cost. 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: But I think what's what's interesting is Europe has decided 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: to double down on a global trade with other partners 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: than the US. We've seen the beginning of a mending 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: of the relationships with the UK with the first improvement 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: on the Brexit trade deal. There are very advanced talks 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: with India. There's consideration to even joining the CPTPP. So 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: Europe is doubling down on global trade and is going 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: to try to do damage limitation with the US as 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: best it can, but it's trying to portray itself to 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: the rest of the world as a place that is 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: open for trade, open for business. And I think back 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: to Tom's point that's also going to help boost productivity 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: going forward. 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: Isabelle Montereo Slago a BNP Parry A joy to have 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: Francisco Blanche with us looking at all of commodities in 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: the derivative dynamics at the Bank of America. We started 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: with gold, looked at a lot of China dynamics as well, 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: but here Francisco Blanche and oil. 52 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: I think you need to see a little more evidence. 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: But remember we are we're actually seen generally commodity prices 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: spalling cyclically driven by oil. The big question is when 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: shale is going to essentially stop growing, and when it does, 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: then we will be in a commodity bull market. Remember 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: China's also seen peak population growth, and now it's other 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: emerging markets, right, I mean, commodity intensity is growing in 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: places like India, other parts of Southeast Asia and then 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: of course Africa. So I mean, I do think there's 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: a China story behind this, but that's been the story 62 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: of the last twenty five years. It really is down 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: to the rest of the emerging markets going forward, and 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: frankly to our ability to keep pulling commodities out the ground. 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: Francisco Blanche, the Bank of America onto a key inflation 66 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: report tomorrow, CPI Wednesday, PPI on Thursday as well, and 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: your community across the nation, don't forget serious. XM Channel 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: one twenty one. I guess that's old technology, Apple car Play, 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Android Auto. In the world of podcasts, subscribe Bloomberg podcasts. 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: Subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts out on YouTube. And this is 71 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 2: single best idea