WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE From 2016 NFL Combine - Day 4 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:11.360 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft showy on 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.520 your war room for insider news and draft analysis from 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.840 deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at Valley Rand. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.720 The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:28.760 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:35.320 it's the last team standing here at the twenty sixteen 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.559 NFL Combine. We are all alone in this build. We 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.560 are all alone in this building, and it's the Draft 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.840 Show and I'm Brian brought us along with David Hellman, 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.319 my scouting buddy's Jeff cavan Off from one oh five 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.800 three The Fan, and my other buddy Kevin Turner from 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.400 one oh five three The Fan. Guys, welcome back. I 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.320 know we missed you guys for a couple of days. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.720 Dan Turner did a nice job of filling in working 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.680 with the Dame Burglar and David and myself, so it's 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.200 good to have you back on the program. Man, Thanks 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.240 for having us. Man, I know Dan's a monster and 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.640 people might miss him a little bit, but good to 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.440 be here. And it's been a fun week. Yeah, it 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.880 has been a good week. And today it's always interesting 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.800 at the combine when you have the quarterbacks throw and 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.440 with the fact that the Dallas Cowboys are a team 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.679 that a lot of people are putting a quarterback with. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.039 Jerry Jones had an opportunity to visit with the media 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.920 today on the Cowboy Bush, and we're gonna get into 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.440 what he said specifically about a quarterback and what that 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.760 might entail for this football team. But I want to 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.360 ask you guys though, of the quarterbacks that work today. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.320 You know, and we don't have to limit it to 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.880 just the major three if you don't want to, But 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.120 I want to ask you guys though, of the quarterbacks 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.800 you thought coming in and what you've seen on tape 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.560 and how they you know, how did you feel like 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.800 that they worked out? And Jeff, I'll start with you 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.400 on this on this because you've always been a Jared 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.639 Golf fan. You are, You're big on the idea of 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.880 the Cowboys. If he's there at four potentially taking him, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.480 what did you see from him today? I thought it 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.920 was a continuation of what I've seen from Jared Golf. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.200 I mean, this week it became a big deal that 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.720 his hand is nine inches from pinky to thumb. But 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.160 you watch him throw, and you watch him throw in 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.160 this environment, you watch him throw on tape, you watch 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.359 him throw anywhere you want. The accuracy that that guy 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.160 throws the football with is it's great. It's great short, 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.920 it's great, intermediate, it's great deep. I don't I don't 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.000 care how big the hand is, how small the hand is. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.880 I thought, again, he looked good today. Not perfect. There 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.280 were a couple of deep balls, but I think you 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.280 take any quarterback in this setting, and if he misses 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.720 a couple, it makes sense because he doesn't know these guys. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.079 He's thrown the guys for the first time. All of 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.959 these quarterbacks missed some right, But on the whole I thought, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.040 I thought, he spun it really well, and he looks 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.720 like the guy that I think he is. I thought. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.360 One consistent thing, and again I love goff It too. Sure. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.440 The one consistent thing that you saw is Golf was 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.079 the one who was throwing the ball before the receivers 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.200 had even made their break, right. He was the one 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.720 with the anticipation and kind of leading them out there 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.240 while some of the other guys were kind of waiting. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.240 And I know, again, like Jeff said, you're not real 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.840 secure with these guys that you don't know. But I 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.600 thought golf was very good at right before they would 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.360 break it, he had the ball there where it needed 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.400 to be and was very accurate. And a couple of 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.440 guys I'd like to talk about, and we've talked about 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.560 these guys a lot, as Connor Cook and Christian Hackenburg. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.840 It was accuracy issues with them sure, all over the place. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.960 And there were some times where they kind of hurt 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.760 through wide receivers and some wide receiver drills were they 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.320 would need to put the ball on the money and 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.280 they didn't do it and give these receivers a chance 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.040 to show what they've got on some of their routes. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.960 So I thought, overall though, the most consistent guy the 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.360 day to me was Jared Goff. Yeah, I thought Carson 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.120 Wentz was actually thought was good too. And I'll get 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.640 and I'll tell you what I'm to bring you in 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.560 here a second because because I will say this though 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.920 Carson Wentz to me and I in my quarterback ranking, 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.720 he is third in my grouping. But I will tell 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.040 you this about what I saw from Carson Wentz today 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.440 that I didn't see with the other two quarterbacks or 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.880 the other two quarterbacks that we were just mentioned. He 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.600 looks more comfortable right now with the drop mechanics. He 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.720 looks more comfortable feet, he looks more comfortable take snap, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.120 get back, plant and throw. He's the one that's done it. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.520 Then the other guys, and I think the other guys 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.520 will catch up to him. I do believe that we 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.000 see the pro days and when we go to the 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.640 kal and the Memphis and you know, back up to 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.919 North Dakota State and all that, I think that you 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.920 will see the other quarterbacks catch up. But if you talk, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.200 if you ask me which of the quarterbacks through the 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.480 ball the best today of the of the big three, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.880 I would say Carson Wentz was that guy for me. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.640 And I just felt like though the mechanics all that 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.440 kind of came together for him and the other guys 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.000 and guys Paxton Lynch and and and Paxton. I think 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.920 he understands what he has to do. He's a tall guy, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.640 he's a long guy. He understands what he has to 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.200 do as far as working on his mechanics with the 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:15.360 footwork and all. And he looked tentative today in that regard. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.600 Especially early. I felt like though the throws that he 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.240 made better at the end were the ones that were 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.720 down the field, the ones where he had to he 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.640 had to throw with some with some some touch, with 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.400 some arc, you know, and fit the ball right down 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.359 on the field there. But he looks slower to me 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.799 because he maybe he was thinking and I think maybe 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.880 golf a little bit the same way as okay, one, two, three, 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.040 four throw, you know, and where where where Witz looked 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.880 a little bit more comfortable in that setting. And that's it, 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.520 you know, That's that's the offense that Carson Wentz has run. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.279 He's he's been taking those drops his entire college career. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.000 And I thought with Paxton Lynch it sort of goes too. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.279 There's no denying the talent or the athleticism, Like you 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.120 watched Carson Wentzon Paxston Lynch run forties and then you 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.440 apply athleticism to that, right, and I don't think it 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.160 does him justice. I think they move better than that 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.480 while they're playing football. And with Lynch, you know, he said, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.560 I didn't really throw the ball in high school, right, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.080 I didn't take drops in college. Ye. So what you're 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.599 looking at is a guy that has tons of talent 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.000 in that arm and a lot of athleticism in that body, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.080 which means as he comes along, hopefully he's a guy 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.200 you don't have to force out there really quickly. But 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.159 as far as a ceiling, I see what you see 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.880 with his ceiling because of how good the tools are. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.800 But as far as hey go out there and run 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.960 my NFL offense, it's just like, I don't know, that's 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.080 a fair point. And again I just felt like though 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.880 that I and I really don't I really didn't want 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.760 to like WinCE Oh, but today, you know, he did 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.479 what he had to do. He looked far more comfortable 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.320 throwing the football with the mechanics to drop mechanics and 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.120 Steve and that's what some of these guys are gonna 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.120 have to do. Okay, I'm gonna bring you in on 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.960 this because you guys were all on the bus. But 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.799 I want Dave to talk about this because he's written 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.400 about it for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Is the fact 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.600 you got to meet with Jerry Jones and we were 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.760 talking about guys that are potentially could be the fourth 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.920 overall pick in this draft if available, though, but Jerry, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.400 you felt like, did Jerry really slammed the door on 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.760 any potential quarterback? At fourth slamming the door is harsh 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.119 because he did. I mean, he sat there and he said, 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.280 you know, he talked about, you know, beating this to death. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.360 But the Aaron Rodgers situation in Green Bay, and you know, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.240 you have to consider things like that. The same thing 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.480 Stephen Jones said earlier this week, which I mean, you know, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.680 if you have an opportunity to draft the franchise guy, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.480 it's something that you have to consider, obviously, But he went, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.240 you know what, I have a transcribe right here, I'll 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.920 read you a piece of this. Yeah, Jerry Jones today 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.280 said it's the one unequivocal fact that you can count 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.960 on relative to the preparation for this draft and the 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:58.080 Cowboys on draft Day is that I Jerry Jones am 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.800 planning on Tony Romo being the quarterback for the next 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.240 four or five years. That is a fact. And you 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.200 won't see a decision on draft Day that will fly 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.480 in the face of that fact. So and Grant, I mean, hey, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.880 the Cowboys need a backup quarterback. So I mean, you're 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.480 not saying that drafting a guy at four it helps 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.200 this team. It does help this team, even if he 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.840 doesn't play. It helps this team. But that's a strong 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.720 statement about you know, in the eternal argument of do 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.320 you worry about the future or don't worry about right now, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.480 it sounds like Jerry Jones cares more about right now. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.720 To me, that's what I'm reading. He didn't like my 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.360 slamming the door at four. I mean, he talked a 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.160 lot about the other side of it, and I mean 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.320 he he also said he straight up said, I don't 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.920 know who we're going to pick, and I mean even 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.320 if even if he did, he wouldn't say sure. But 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.760 so it's not like he said, there's no way in 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.400 hell we're drafting a quarterback. But he certainly made it 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.600 sound like he's far more interested in getting immediate help. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.920 He was even joking about how, you know, Tony Romo 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.280 would probably give up money for a guarantee that he's 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.400 going to get some defensive help on the defensive side 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.679 of the ball. And he had some other really telling 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.360 comments just about you know, he feels far better about 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.440 what they can do to make the offense better going 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.800 forward than I mean, there is a big uphill climb 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.599 to fix this defense going forward and fixing the pass rush. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.360 And it sounds like he's well aware of that fact. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.480 So you know, as always, they don't say things on 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.440 the record in playing language, you kind of have to 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.120 read between the lines, and if you do that, it 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.800 is my opinion that I don't really think they'll take 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.959 a quarterback at four, all right, Kat, that's kind of 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.920 my gut at least. Okay, Kat, though, if if I'm 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.800 not going to take a quarterback potentially at four, who 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.240 were some of the other guys today that you know? 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.280 I mean, you've seen all the tape on a lot 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.600 of these quarterbacks, though. Was there anybody that jumped out 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.280 at you today that you kind of felt like, you 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.880 know what he showed me a little more than what 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.760 the tape, or hey, you know what, he's right what 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.160 I saw on the tape. Well, typically, the way I 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.520 feel about this is, if you're gonna get your quarterbacks 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.960 in the league, you do get them in the first round. Sure. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.480 I mean there's a you know, a twenty twenty one 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.960 of the quarterbacks in the league or first round guys, 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.480 And it's been like that for years where a majority 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.760 of the league you get your quarterbacks in the first round. Now, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.360 it doesn't sound too shocking or anything, so I don't 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.000 necessarily want to take a quarterback later in the draft. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.400 I mean, I want one of the guys that I 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.760 would like, preferably golf or winch or went or whatever. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.280 But if you had to go deeper in the draft, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.760 you know, Dak Prescott, maybe there would be a guy 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.680 that like a little bit. And then Hackenburg. I like Hackerburg. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.400 I know he had a very inconsistent day today, Yeah, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.479 but he is he is my you know, fifth fourth 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.880 favorite quarterback, and he's a guy who I just feel 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.960 like there's something there. And I know the tape has 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.160 been terrible or very inconsistent the last couple of years. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.040 Yeah at times, but at times he would make a 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.040 Sunday throw when you sit there and go, what is that? 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.680 I need to see what that is? Right, And there's 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.880 enough to pique my interests, and I'm okay with them, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.840 uh pulling the trigger, you know on a quarterback. The 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.600 problem is about the time I want to cut that off. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.120 Is about Prescott and Hackenburg, which are my fourth and 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.240 fifth quarterbacks. And I don't know if that you know, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.760 get I don't think that happens after pick one hundred, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.000 you know, after you pick in the third round in 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.679 the fourth round at ninety eight, or after you pick 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.880 in the third round at sixty seven, you may not 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.439 have a chance to get one of those guys. I 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.520 don't want to take a quarterback just to take a quarterback, 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.920 know what? And I completely agree with you way man, 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.200 you can argue Cardinal Jones. Maybe here I mean, and 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.840 he unfortunately pulled the hamstrings. He did. He pulled his 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.800 hamstring on his second forty to day. He didn't get 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.160 to throw March eleventh, Ohio States Pro Day, Big day 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.640 for old twelve gage. But maybe he shouldn't have ran. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:44.920 Like we know he can run. All he needed to 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.160 do is throw. I mean, all right, I'm the only 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.000 person among our entire contingent that likes him even a 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.920 little bit. That's okay. I like Paxton Lynch. Nobody else does, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.120 so don't worry about that, Paxton Lynch. If you're in 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.920 the top of the third round and he's staring in 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.440 the face, that's a different disc Be real with me. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.760 You don't like Cardell Jones, but do you think he'll 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.760 be their past pick ninety eight based on the value 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.800 of the position and the talent alone, that's even an option. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.400 I'm looking more. I was trying to and Jeff, I'll 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.320 jump in here on this, on these on the on 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.560 the packs and obviously on the Press Scott's and guys 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.000 like that. I thought, again, and you always give me 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.920 a lot of grief for this, but I thought Byron 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.320 Allen threw the ball well to day, Brandon all excuse me, uh, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.240 Byron Jones exactly, Brandon Alan threw the ball well today, 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.240 and and him and Press Scott both and and and 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.320 and Jacoby Brissett. You know, it was another guy that 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.199 I thought through the ball well today. You know, it 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.280 was about Jeff Driscoll. I didn't think so. I do 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.000 like Jacoby a lot, threw it pretty well at the 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.679 Senior Bowl, and then today goes out there and he's 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.240 running four fives and jumping ten feet. I think. I 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.880 think Jeff Driscoll keeps doing different things to make you 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.080 kind of go, uh maybe, but but do you have 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.600 him in that range where you would take him like 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.640 it sixty seven or something like that if it need be. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.079 I only have four quarterbacks in the top three rounds 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.360 for me, and that's golf. That's Wentz, it's Paxton Lynch, 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.880 and it's Christian Hackenburg. So those are your four guys. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.600 So for me and I get it, like, and I 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.520 think you're right with the Brandon Allen name, which will 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.280 drive draft Twitter crazy because his hands smaller than golfs, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.840 you can't possibly be good at football. But you know, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.240 if you watch the Arkansas game, I mean you watch 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.439 him play, you watch the Senior Bowl, he comes out 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.240 here to come on, I thought he threw the ball. Well, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:31.880 I mean I didn't have a I didn't have a 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.000 problem with the way through the football today. So and 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.400 I'm not and it's not in Arkansas love with me 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.400 because I'm not a big Arkansas fan. I don't. I don't. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.720 I'm a fan of the player because I think the 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.480 guy can play, you know, I just like I said, 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.080 I mean, if you're where do you put him right now? 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.439 On my board? I had I'm developing a theory. That's 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:54.240 why I ask I've got him in the third round. See, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.160 and where do you have Jones? Just out of curiosity? 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.160 And Jones I have in the fourth round? Okay, And 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.040 that's my point and that's why I was agreeing with 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.760 kat I did. I mean, I pick one hundred is 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.760 my cutoff for where you're going to get a quarterback 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.920 that's worth taking as far as I'm concerned, I mean, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:11.920 I don't know if they don't. If they don't take 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.000 one by the third round, you're not drafting one at all. 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.880 Maybe the fourth. Yeah, they have the ninety eighth overall pick, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.800 I'd be fine with that, But I'm I mean, once 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.720 you're getting past that, I'm just not sure. Think it's 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.680 a really good point because you look around. You look 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.320 around the NFL and the guys who didn't step in 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.880 and start but kind of made it, or even did 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.800 step in and start that weren't the first rounders. You're 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.760 talking about Breeze, you're talking about Russell Wilson, you're talking 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.120 about Kirk Cousins. What was he a third or fourth? 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.040 Because he was a four round Okay, so it's possible. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.600 But of the number of people picked in the fourth, fifth, sixth, 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.880 seventh round, like, okay, you go find Tom Brady in 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.080 the sixth round three time, and I found a quarterback 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.800 in the sixth and one time in the history of 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.320 ever you found an undrafted free agent, right, which means 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.240 there were hundreds that that busted. So your percentage is 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:01.400 down there, it's one percent. You know, where's up at 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.600 the top. You got a shot. You can talk me 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.840 into the I mean Russell Wilson, you, I mean, that's 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.400 one of the best quarterbacks in the round. Pick I 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.920 just the numbers drop off so significantly once you get 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.760 past the third or fourth round though, and there's a 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.480 couple of things. You better know for sure that he's 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.920 better than Kellen Moore if you're taking him, Well, it 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.920 sounds like, Jerry, you were on the bus side, Jerry 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.080 was comfortable with Kellen Moore. He's like, he's comfortable with 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.280 Kellen Moore. Is his number two quarterback. That's what it 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.360 sounded like. I don't know if I read it. I 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.520 don't know if I read it completely. That we look 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.120 at the positives, but you obviously can't do a lot 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.880 of the negatives that he did. And he didn't bring 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.160 up his turnover, so that's still in his head. So 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.560 he's still seen all the bad plays that Kellen Moore had. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.960 He's remembering that. But I just I feel like, like 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.520 we talk about this all the time, Well, you can't 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.400 take quarterback at four. We gotta get Romos some help, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.960 and we gotta we gotta get Well, you can't do 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.640 that at sixty seven, then you gotta keep getting Romo help. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.840 Then we're gonna take your quarterback. Let's try to take 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.280 the best one. Otherwise, let's not do it. See that's 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.240 why I don't see why he slammed the door like 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.720 that at four. Yeah, because again they might like they 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.640 might like golf for lunch or you know, well, it's 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.680 also smokescreen. I mean, I don't take everything with a 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.760 big old grain of salt. Did you always feel like that. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.400 Jerry's pretty honest with his assessment of when we talk 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.200 to him. Yeah, yeah, but this time of year you 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.880 can't be totally honest and kind. He kind of prefaced 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.440 his entire conversation with listen at this time of year 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.280 talking about free agency and draft strategy. I can't really 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.400 get into it right. And then he went into draft 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.600 strategy as he's telling you he thinks Romo is going 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.880 to play four or five years. Okay, we got through 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.160 those quarterbacks a little bit, though, talk about a little 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.920 bit some of the wide receivers. You know, there are 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.600 a lot of folks out there that are trying to 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.640 figure out know that we're trying to figure out these 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.720 wide receivers and where they exactly go whether that's uh, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.640 you know, like myself with the dots, and then Lawyer 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.280 Lawler and and uh and uh Braxton Miller Fuller, those 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.120 kind of guys talk about what you thought today and 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.440 how the receivers worked, and it is anybody that really 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.280 jumped out at you today in the workouts. You made 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.440 fun of me a couple hours ago because I said, 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.600 I think Will Fuller's working his way toward the first round, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.960 and I don't think that's crazy. I didn't say I 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.440 was making fun of you. I haven't because I have 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.520 been the Siban's second round myself. But I said first round. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.840 And I'm pretty sure you said like I'm gonna kick 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.119 you off the show. You're stupid. I'm pretty sure I 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.760 say that. I thought there was somebody else I said 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.399 that for. I don't know, maybe it was Yeah, that 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.439 was me. I think either way, I Will Fuller, how 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.439 could you not be blown away by what he's done here? 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.480 I mean, okay, Jeff, tell what's wrong with Will Fuller? 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.119 What's wrong with Will Well? I'll tell you what. And 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.240 I think that's why I don't know if I would 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.160 say first round. I guess it all depends how many 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:33.760 receivers are going to go in the first round. When 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.800 I say first round, I'm talking mid to mid twenties 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.640 to third. Oh no, I'm just saying, okay, I'm still 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.800 a first round. I'm saying it depends how many wide 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.119 receivers go. Because the biggest knock that I would have 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.760 for you on Will Fuller, he did a great job 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.200 of not doing that at all today. He was great today. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.760 He did a great job with his hands today, and 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.560 that was the biggest thing for will Fuller. We knew 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.480 he was going to run a four three. Absolutely, no, 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.080 he's fast. We know he's quick. We know that he's 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.800 a body catcher, right and then today when you run 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.800 the gauntlet, when you run these drills, you can tell 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.440 that the one thing he's been working on is let 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.000 me show these teams I can catch the ball with 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:09.880 my hands. And he went out there and I thought 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.200 he did it well today. I don't know how much 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.679 you can be convinced in shorts with nobody covering you, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.280 when somebody's catching with their hands that they've changed as 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.640 a football player. But I thought he did as good 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.280 as he could have done in terms of helping his stock. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.760 Josh Doson is the guy that I think, Yeah, I 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.760 think he's in the first round, and I would bet 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.480 on it. I think he's a first rounder now right 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:36.600 Because he jumped him, Michael Thompson or Thomas, Michael Thomas 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.520 from Ohio state your brains. I think that. I think 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.760 that's a flavor pick. I think that's that's one hundred 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.480 percent of flavor pick. What do you want your receiver 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.920