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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft showy on

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's the last team standing here at the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine. We are all alone in this build. We

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Speaker 1: are all alone in this building, and it's the Draft

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Speaker 1: Show and I'm Brian brought us along with David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: my scouting buddy's Jeff cavan Off from one oh five

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Speaker 1: three The Fan, and my other buddy Kevin Turner from

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Speaker 1: one oh five three The Fan. Guys, welcome back. I

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Speaker 1: know we missed you guys for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Dan Turner did a nice job of filling in working

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Speaker 1: with the Dame Burglar and David and myself, so it's

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Speaker 1: good to have you back on the program. Man, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having us. Man, I know Dan's a monster and

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Speaker 1: people might miss him a little bit, but good to

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Speaker 1: be here. And it's been a fun week. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: has been a good week. And today it's always interesting

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Speaker 1: at the combine when you have the quarterbacks throw and

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Speaker 1: with the fact that the Dallas Cowboys are a team

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people are putting a quarterback with.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones had an opportunity to visit with the media

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Speaker 1: today on the Cowboy Bush, and we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: what he said specifically about a quarterback and what that

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Speaker 1: might entail for this football team. But I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you guys though, of the quarterbacks that work today.

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Speaker 1: You know, and we don't have to limit it to

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Speaker 1: just the major three if you don't want to, But

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys though, of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and how they you know, how did you feel like

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Speaker 1: that they worked out? And Jeff, I'll start with you

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Speaker 1: on this on this because you've always been a Jared

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Speaker 1: Golf fan. You are, You're big on the idea of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. If he's there at four potentially taking him,

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Speaker 1: what did you see from him today? I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a continuation of what I've seen from Jared Golf.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this week it became a big deal that

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Speaker 1: his hand is nine inches from pinky to thumb. But

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Speaker 1: you watch him throw, and you watch him throw in

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Speaker 1: this environment, you watch him throw on tape, you watch

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Speaker 1: him throw anywhere you want. The accuracy that that guy

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Speaker 1: I thought, again, he looked good today. Not perfect. There

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Speaker 1: take any quarterback in this setting, and if he misses

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Speaker 1: a couple, it makes sense because he doesn't know these guys.

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Speaker 1: He's thrown the guys for the first time. All of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks missed some right, But on the whole I thought,

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Speaker 1: I thought, he spun it really well, and he looks

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Speaker 1: One consistent thing, and again I love goff It too. Sure.

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Speaker 1: The one consistent thing that you saw is Golf was

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Speaker 1: And I know, again, like Jeff said, you're not real

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Speaker 1: Steve and that's what some of these guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: I want Dave to talk about this because he's written

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Speaker 1: not saying that drafting a guy at four it helps

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Speaker 1: of unexpected. I'm gonna go ahead. If it wouldn't sound

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Speaker 1: fart noise for Braxton Miller. Could I mean down today?

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Speaker 1: All that hype in I mean the Senior Bowl he

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Speaker 1: He said it himself on Wednesday. I believe I'm no

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Speaker 1: doubt I'm a first rounder. Surprisingly slow. I just honest,

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Speaker 1: five three who run faster at Ohio State, I believe. Granted,

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Speaker 1: I recognize that a four or five. Calling a four

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Speaker 1: who runs a four or five three, who runs the

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Speaker 1: Line him up against Braxton Miller, and I'll put my

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Speaker 1: you're still you're still bullish on Braxton Miller. I think

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Speaker 1: I watched him compete against guys at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's a first rounder? I think someone

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Speaker 1: might take that chance. I wouldn't because I think there's

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Speaker 1: enough questions I think, And yeah, Braxon Miller's perfectly fine.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. It's not so much that he's bad.

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Speaker 1: It's just the hype really that he didn't meet the

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Speaker 1: Let's let me ask you, but before we have to

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Speaker 1: go to break here, how about Sterling Shepherd Today? Great

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Speaker 1: day for Oklahoma. I thought he had a great day.

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Speaker 1: I believe his official time ended up being four four eight, right,

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Speaker 1: that's outstanding for a guy of his size. Agility drills,

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Speaker 1: be great because on tape that's what he does right

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Speaker 1: on tape, that's what that guy is. He's quickness, he's

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Speaker 1: I think that's a second round kind of player that

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Speaker 1: I can line up outside and I feel good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask you, Kki, you feel

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Speaker 1: And then we're selling up for the Senior Bowl too.

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Speaker 1: That it was really impressive, and yeah, I do want

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Speaker 1: I'll take Lakwan Treadwell and he's gonna take the ball

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Speaker 1: So let's do a little Twitter on the twenty Dave,

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Speaker 1: you got it twenty all right? This is I mean,

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Speaker 1: wants to know. If you're presented with these three options,

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Speaker 1: do you a trade back three spots in the first round,

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Speaker 1: we get a two for that. Okay, you're I mean

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Speaker 1: you're calling the shots in the top five. B Do

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Speaker 1: of choice at four? Oh? I take my quarterback of

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Speaker 1: Jared Golf. I think he's a future franchise quarterback unless

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Speaker 1: Cleveland breaks his will to play sports. Okay, can I

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Speaker 1: take our Can I take the one scenario out of there?

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Speaker 1: Can you take the last scenario out about having your

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Speaker 1: you taking it out? Well, just because I think we

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Speaker 1: would all take our quarterback. I know I would. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about that. I think I think I a

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Speaker 1: appeals to me a lot. I like, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I don't love any of these quarterbacks. I mean I like,

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Speaker 1: add impact players in the top forty. But this for

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Speaker 1: to take the quarterback. Yeah, the team do. Their owner

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Speaker 1: just said that he's gonna that Romo is gonna play

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Speaker 1: It's crazy talk, Anthony right, Clint Sterner, Ryan right now,

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Speaker 1: I would do the trade back thing. And the reason

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Speaker 1: good pack right right there, receiver. Maybe it's a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I can get one. At thirty four.

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Speaker 1: We'll draw it. Let's draw out the picture, because just

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, we've established what we do if he's there, right, No,

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Speaker 1: what you would do. I'm sticking to my guns. I

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks anyway. Go ahead, you're getting voted here, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: always want more picks, I mean, and that's just the

638
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: way I'm wired. I don't know, plus I of Zeke,

639
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: so in this draft, I think that's great if you

640
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: said that, if you if you gave me that scenario,

641
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: I would take the pick and go back. I would.

642
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: I would. I would take the pick, go back and

643
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: take Zeke. I would too, because especially because what that

644
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: number two is in this draft, and maybe we don't

645
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: know who's there and who's not sure, but maybe that

646
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: extra pick is a Sterling Shepherd at wide receiver. Maybe

647
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: it's a Ronald Blair at defensive end. Maybe it's one

648
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: of these defensive tackles. And you're so then you're saying,

649
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: do you want Zeke and another starter or do you

650
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: want Jalen Ramsey? Yeah? How many did Zeke? I mean?

651
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: How many did Ronald thirty two on the bench led

652
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: all defensive lineman at two hundred and eighty two pounds. Impressive, America.

653
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: If you don't know Ronald Blair, get to know him. Yeah,

654
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen about Oh, I had it right here.

655
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: Hang on, I gotta pull it back up. That's Twitter

656
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot coming in. Okay, Okay, Chad wants to know. Uh,

657
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: can y'all give him a player comparison for Leon Leonte Carew,

658
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: who was at the Senior Bowl. You know what? He

659
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Actually he ran faster than I thought he wouldn't have five.

660
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily play that fast on tape. Sure. I

661
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: am not incredibly high on Leonte Carew. I've got him

662
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Yeah, but I thought he had

663
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: a good day to day. Actually, I thought when he

664
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: went to the Gauntlet, I thought he looked up pretty smooth.

665
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: And you know I coming up with the comparison of

666
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: him is very tough to do on Dane's gotta be there,

667
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: comparison guy, you got this? Um, I need a guy

668
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: that's not real tall, but he's a good route runner,

669
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: he's a strong player, does have a history. Yeah, I

670
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: was trying to think of man I could because I'm

671
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: with Kat, I'm I'm I don't have him as we

672
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: could have done this. We could have done this on Wednesday.

673
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's too we're two burned out. No, no,

674
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: you can. But I mean again, I tend to tend

675
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: to try and compare guys that I really like exactly,

676
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean and nothing. And again,

677
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: if you're a Rutgers fan, hey, you know, God bless you.

678
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: That's great. And he did he did, like Hughes he's

679
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: talking about, though he worked out better than I thought

680
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: he would. Yeah, he really did. And so you know, yeah,

681
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: I would. I would like to think that, uh, you know,

682
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: because I'm always trying to sell guys, and so I

683
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: have to come up with a guy to sell and

684
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a guy to sell with him, all right,

685
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: And I've been trying to get to this all week

686
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: and there hasn't been a good opportunity. But Eddie wants

687
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: to know. Are we ignoring tight ends too much? I

688
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: feel like Cowboys fans don't want to hear about tight end,

689
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: especially after the way their last big tight end pick went.

690
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: But that guy, I'll tell you what, if you want

691
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: to tight end to succeed, have him leaved out. Leaved

692
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: out absolutely, But well, I mean James Hannah might do

693
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: just that in three weeks and Gavin Escobar doesn't look

694
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: likely to be playing anytime soon. I can tell you personally,

695
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: I am ignoring the tight end position. And we've watched

696
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: tape on four or five guys, right, But I can

697
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: tell you it's never anything I'm excited about or thinking

698
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: a lot about. And I probably should because I think

699
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry would be exciting for a team if you're

700
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna use him like a Jimmy Graham kind of guy,

701
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry from Arkansas, because in terms of getting down

702
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: the field and catching the ball, he's really really good.

703
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: But I know if you put a tight end here,

704
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: he's going to be lined up on the line of scrimmage.

705
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna ask him to block. Yeah, and Hunter Henry's

706
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna get every single running play blown up because he's

707
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: not physically capable. You know, well, you traded your six

708
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: to get back into the seventh last year for Jeff Swayin.

709
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: You just use him, well, you just hope it Swayin

710
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: get can put on some weight and get a little

711
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: bit better doing that. Signed James Hannah. Yeah, James Hannah,

712
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. A j Matta. Speaking of free agency,

713
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Stephen and Jerry Jones both took this week to emphatically

714
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: state that they want Rolando McLean back on their defense.

715
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Not that that's an indicator of anything, but they appear

716
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: to be very interested in that. Does that tell you

717
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: anything about their opinion on Miles Jack. Do you feel

718
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: as good about Miles Jack as a candidate for as

719
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe you did, because that I mean, that's your guy,

720
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: that's my guy. If they signed, if they that they

721
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: resigned McLean, then then that would mean that that they

722
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: would probably put Anti Hitchens as the backup Mike, and

723
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: so they probably where he needs to be. Yeah, there'll

724
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: be no need then to to draft Miles Jack if

725
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: that's the case. And some people were talking about that

726
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: maybe the medical was going to come back badly on

727
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Miles Jack. I think on March fifteenth, Miles Jack is

728
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: going to blow everybody away with a work out there

729
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: out in Westwood and and then we'll see some other

730
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: team will get that opportunity. But if they resigned Rwanda McClean,

731
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: I think that does put the end to my dream

732
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: for having Miles jacklins. What if he's the best player

733
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: on your board, We talk about it all the time.

734
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: He's right they're your best player on the board. Even

735
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: if you did sign Rolanda McClean, I'll tell you what

736
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable doing. I'm not all on counting on

737
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: Rolanda McLean or Sean Leefer. Sixteen games, Jack is still

738
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: on the board at that he's my number one guy

739
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: on the board that I'm taking him. That's that, you

740
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: know what, and that's and that's well said, and that's

741
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: and that it should be the case. I just don't

742
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: know if they would operate that way. I think we

743
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: would operate that way, but you know, we're not working

744
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: for an NFL team in the draft room. Be smarter

745
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: for them off that. But one thing I always learned,

746
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: and that was Ron Wolf and with the Packers, was hey,

747
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: you feel good about a position, go ahead and add

748
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: another guy to it. But that's you know, they at

749
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: that fourth pick. I mean, somebody will say, oh, you

750
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: gotta have this or have that or have something else.

751
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: But if they if he's a top five player in

752
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: my opinion when you watch him play, he is a

753
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: top five player, and if you know, I hopefully they

754
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: will give him his due and uh, you know, and

755
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: see where the chips fall. He's a top one player.

756
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: Wow to one. He's the best there ever was, the

757
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. We call him the game. He's

758
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: one on your board, good lord, order one on your board,

759
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Miles Jack. Yeah, you've you've been. I'm probably not fair

760
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: in saying that because I would take Jared Goff over

761
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: any position player available. That's true because if I think

762
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: he's a good starting quarterback, he's more important than j. J. Watt.

763
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: He's more important than anybody in the league. He's a quarterback. Yeah,

764
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: we rate quarterbacks high. Michael wants to know he's a

765
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: pit alumni. Oh, Boyd, he wants it. Well, good guy,

766
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean, an easy guess, but good guess he wants

767
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: he wants to swap out Tyler Boyd for Devin's Street.

768
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: Well it's a great question, Michael, but you can't just

769
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: do that. You can't just swap him out. But no,

770
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is a great player. He ran a four

771
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: or five eight. Yeah it's on the forty and I'm

772
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: not sure about the agility drills. But see, that's what

773
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: he is though, Yeah, that's what he is. That's the

774
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: big concern with him, is he Are you gonna do

775
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: anything for me after the catch, right, and I don't

776
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: think Tyler Boyd's gonna give you a lot of that.

777
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: What he is is a good route runner and a

778
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: good good hands, maybe the best hands in the draft. Monster.

779
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: We saw that against King from Iowa, who we thought

780
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: was initially when we were starting this journey, was one

781
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: of the best corners in the country. So yeah, he

782
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: has he's he's one of those guys who'll catch the football.

783
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I think Kat's right though, for those big plays. If

784
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: you're okay with just you know, and a lot of

785
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: people say, well, Dallas has nobody that can blow the

786
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: top off off off a defense. And that's why, you know,

787
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Dave was saying, well, hey how about Will four. He'll

788
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: blow the top off a defense. So day, Yeah, I

789
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: think if you had somebody that could really really if

790
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: you could really if you had somebody could really, really

791
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: really run, you would say, okay, yeah, trade him out.

792
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: But if you're interested in having somebody that could play

793
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: the vertical game, you know, Boyd's not that guy. Keenan

794
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Allen was a comparison. I think that a lot of

795
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 1: people will think we're talking about that type of a guy.

796
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: All right, Um, all right, I got two we'll do.

797
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 1: I'm worried about getting to this guy because I feel

798
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: like we've talked to him too much. But Isaac wants

799
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: to know, Um, what are your thoughts? And we saw him,

800
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: we saw him today too, Vernon Adams, any any thoughts

801
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: do you? Oregon? Yes, I mean Frank here guy and hey,

802
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: we're talking about you don't want to go later than

803
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the fourth round for a quarterback? Does this guy do

804
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: anything for you? I hear people talking about him. He's

805
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: he's undersized, and I'll give him credit for being a gamer.

806
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: That's what they said at the Shrine Game. Sure, that's

807
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: what a lot of people that you talk to talk

808
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: about that guy being a gamer. But for a guy

809
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: who may not have been drafted before the Shrine Game started,

810
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: I just I think that you're pinning your hopes on

811
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: something that doesn't happen a lot. For a guy who

812
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: most teams look at and they're like, I don't know

813
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: that he's an NFL player that becomes what a late

814
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: day three pick or or a free agent. Come to

815
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: camp and see what you can do. That's what I mean.

816
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: And that's what we were talking about when you're talking

817
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: about that late in the draft that kind of prospect

818
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: and Graham, there's always there's always room for the one

819
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: percent success story. But I got showers on your team already,

820
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: probably not adding a guy that's gonna significantly improve your team.

821
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this him and this is and

822
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna be met with some booze

823
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: and jeers and all that. If it came down to

824
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: him at the end or a Cody Kessler, I'll take

825
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: him Vernon Adams win the game at the end. This

826
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: is this is the Cody Kessler like, no unappreciation. Cody

827
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: Kesler didn't try to win a football. Watched it. I

828
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: watched it with y'all. It was in you to be

829
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: down two touchdowns with four and a half minutes left.

830
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: Never I just wanted to marry strange. He also has

831
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: a noodle arm, but that's well. How about the Indiana

832
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: quarterback that worked today? What'd you think of him today?

833
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: I saw some bad accuracy. I saw some really crappy

834
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: got an arm, his feet his feet or he hops,

835
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: he's like he's playing baseball. He gets back, he kind

836
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: of does this like he jumps to throw, and it's

837
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: it's messed him up there. I think there's a few

838
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: mid to rate lounge guys like with a shot to

839
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: develop to play. If you're looking somebody say about Hogan today, like, yeah,

840
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: he's not going to impress you right now, but he's

841
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: got a shot to be something in three or four

842
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: if you need a guy to survive on your roster

843
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: for four years and hopefully survived for your team if

844
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: your starter goes down for two games. Okay, he throws

845
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: a long ball like he's stowing the javelin. He puts

846
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: his entire body in it. And I thought I was

847
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: at the seventy six games in Montreal the way. I mean,

848
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: he has a clean pocket and the guy's open, he's

849
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: got a chance, and and anything short intermediate him moving

850
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: around fine. And then it's funny because I talk about

851
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch. He throw through the ball well downfield, but

852
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: underneath he didn't throw it as well. So I mean,

853
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: I think that's because of how big he is, Like

854
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: that's just I don't know. His hurt one of a

855
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, it's just sometimes these taller guys, the

856
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: body type to touch for them is a little bit

857
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: more difficult. Something they have to develop. Where he threw

858
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: three straight passes that that that double move that they ran,

859
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, and then went to the corner like the

860
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: post corner. He threw three straight passes like if you

861
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: put a trash can down there, and it would go

862
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: on into the trash can every single time. But then

863
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: some of the underneath stuff. Early he was awful. Yeah,

864
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: he ran. There was an en route where I saw

865
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: him throw the ball and the receiver stopped and then

866
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: he had to turn around and walk like eight yards

867
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: that way, Yeah, and then take a knee to go

868
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: to where the ball was. It was really interesting, but

869
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: he was golf had one no eye guy came across

870
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: the phenomenal day by golf not at all. The guys

871
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: are just trying to fit your own narratives right now.

872
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: That's all that's happened here. Um, all right. I mean

873
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: this is one of the most talked about guys at

874
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: the combine. Were talking about him yesterday. I don't care.

875
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: DA wants to know if Derrick Henry did anything to

876
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: change your mind this week. Uh, you know, if you

877
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: want him, you probably know you have to get him

878
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: at thirty four, I would say, and maybe you feel

879
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: willing to do that. Yeah, do you think that's true.

880
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think him at sixty seven is possible? No,

881
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: that's just me being an idiot. YEA, yeah, I know.

882
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I to me and I'll let Kavanaugh to talk about

883
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: this though, because I thought he brought up a very

884
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: interesting point about the shuttles and things like that, the

885
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: change of directions, and then people will tweet at you

886
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: about well, DeMarco Murray was just as bad and all that.

887
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray was a third round pick. All right, we're

888
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: talking everything. De Marco Murray went to an offense where

889
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: they ran the ball laterally right and how did you

890
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: like the way that looked? Yeah, he plays sideways exactly,

891
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: three guys, that's what they do. Murray was what seventy one?

892
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: I think he was right. I think he was in

893
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: the seventies. But anyway, Derrick Henry would have a shot

894
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: to be very very good here. I think he absolutely would.

895
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: There's a mc downhill runner. He's a downhill runner, and

896
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: they're going to give him a chance. There's not gonna

897
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: be a lot of times with this line. I just

898
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: gets blow seventy one. I nailed it. I just don't

899
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: like Boom. I thought he caught the ball well better

900
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: than no. He's he's a good player. I just don't.

901
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: I just don't like the fact that he doesn't create.

902
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Are you taking him at thirty four because I'm not.

903
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: That's the question to me, Derrick Henry, I'm taking him

904
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: at sixty seven in the third round or not at all?

905
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm okay with that. I would do a backflip.

906
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: If I could get Derrick Henry at sixty seven, I

907
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: would feel great about what he is. Feel better about

908
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: about thirty four? Then, No, that's what I'm gonna say.

909
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: I would feel gret about it at sixty seven about

910
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: would you feel better that one and not the other? Then,

911
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: because you're talking about a whole you're talking literally talking

912
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: about a whole round ahead. I mean first and second round.

913
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm testing how much you really like the game first

914
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: and second round. I want a guy who's going to

915
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: be like a starter stud right away. You can take

916
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: a running back at thirty four. His name is Kenneth Dixon.

917
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: If you want to take a running back, you don't

918
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: think that. You don't think that Henry, if he even

919
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: if you got him at sixty seven, wouldn't be the starter. No,

920
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that they would set it.

921
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: I think they would platoon it. I mean, I think

922
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: it would be okay if you if you took him

923
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: at thirty four, do you think you'd be the starter.

924
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't think where they draft. You just said you

925
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: don't feel I don't like his talent level enough to

926
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: spend that rich of a pick on him. That's all

927
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all I'm saying. But you're committed to

928
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: him in the third but not in the second because

929
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: it's a much less valuable draft pick. Like you're acting

930
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: like those are different, like those are the same thing. No,

931
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: I've just seen how committed you were toed the player.

932
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I would feel great about drafting Paxton Lynch

933
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: if it was the fifteenth overall pick or the twentieth

934
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: overall pick instead of the fourth. Where you take them matters.

935
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm just you're literally you're You're take Packs and Lynch

936
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: at sixty seven. I'm with you. No, that's not what

937
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I said. I do want to say this though, because

938
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: it's smoke screen season. There was like a report today

939
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: the Titans want to pound the ball and get a

940
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: big physical nber one. No, not at one but you

941
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: know who picks at number thirty three right before thirty

942
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: four or the Cowboys pick is the Tennessee Titans, So

943
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: that could be a place for Deeric Henry. Or maybe

944
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: it's he goes to Tennessee at thirty three. You can

945
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: oh I had him, No, I had that. I mean

946
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: to be like, man, I just don't know what I

947
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about him that's so

948
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: special that makes people think he would go that high.

949
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: I he is. He's a he's a specimen man. He's

950
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: a it's a Heisman Trophy winner. I know, Dave Man whatever.

951
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: I love a lot of Alabama players, which is tough

952
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: for me to do. My favorite guy in this draft

953
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: went to Ole Miss, which is my least favorite school

954
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: in the world. But I don't know. I just I

955
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, you're talking about a valuable pick

956
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: up there. That's that's my opinion. And I wonder if

957
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: you could just survive at running back this year because

958
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: next year, holy cow, running back cost that's coming. There's

959
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: two or three ze. You want to be four and

960
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: twelve again and have your rating time and have a

961
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: miserable year. Kind of we can do draft talk all year.

962
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: We could just start talking draft in October. Next year,

963
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: we started in November. Other people can talk about the game.

964
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: We've talked about every college player that's coming to the

965
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys all week because we get what pe four net

966
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook Cook, I mean the guys that the guys

967
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: that you're going to be excited together those guys are.

968
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna have to be bad to get

969
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: those guys. Okay, well, see this is where the narrative,

970
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: like you say, will change. Everybody will forget it. Oh,

971
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: there's there's no value of taking or running back in

972
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: the top five. There's no value there. Get out of here,

973
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna pop four of them in the

974
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: top fifty taking to line them up. They're gonna line

975
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: them up. Okay, Hey, thanks everybody for all the Twitter questions.

976
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. We're gonna take our final break and

977
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,840
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1018
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Speaker 1: Final ten minutes at the Draft Show for our time here,

1019
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: I want to get into tomorrow. Well, actually the next

1020
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: couple of days, we've got defensive players. All the offensive

1021
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: players have gone through. Jerry Jones on the bus, yes,

1022
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: talking about defensive players trying to help this football team.

1023
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: It was it was pretty enlightening. I mean, he wasn't

1024
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: saying anything that we didn't know, but it's always interesting

1025
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: to hear, you know, guys like that talk on the record.

1026
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: Just I mean, he basically said, I don't know if

1027
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel as good about our defense entering the

1028
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen season as I did last year. When you know,

1029
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: they added Greg Hardy and they drafted Randy Gregory, and

1030
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: they got McLean back, and you know, Scandrick was was healthy,

1031
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Moe was still under contracts, and and he said, you know,

1032
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that's going to happen in

1033
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: the next sixty days. Where before this, you know, rosters

1034
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: really finalized for training camp. Um, but it's gonna be

1035
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: tough for them to match the and and again, obviously

1036
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: the season didn't go the way they wanted it too,

1037
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: but they had so much potential on paper to be great. Yeah,

1038
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: and I think he was saying it's it's gonna be

1039
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: tough for them to match that, you know, as productive

1040
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: an offseason as they had last year, they got their

1041
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: work cut out for him. I think that's very much

1042
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: relate to the fact that he and everyone else thinks

1043
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: that a certain pass rusher is not coming back. See

1044
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I was saying. I was I

1045
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: was following you on Twitter. I was back here doing

1046
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: some work and watching the workouts, and you and you

1047
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: were tweeting about Randy Gregory, and I was interested that

1048
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: what the thoughts you guys had, you know, the demeanor,

1049
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Jerry I've seen that look on his

1050
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: face before. It's probably really pained to have to talk

1051
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: about Randy Gregory and what transpired for him this year. Well,

1052
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. That's the second Jones that I've heard

1053
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: allude to the fact that there may be more games

1054
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: to come that Rador Gregory could miss. And he, I mean,

1055
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: he went through it. How there's not a lot of

1056
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: room for error for a guy who funked a drug

1057
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: test at the combine. Yeah, you get tested a lot,

1058
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: he said. I believe Jerry said he's ninety eight tested

1059
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: more than ninety eight percent of the NFL. Right, So

1060
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: if you've got. If you've got something going on that

1061
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: you can't get a handle on, it's going to be

1062
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: caught and it's going to be exposed. And so I

1063
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: I think you're in danger of needing to build your

1064
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: roster as if Randy Gregory doesn't exists. That's been my

1065
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: theory with Shawn Lee the last couple of years. Good point,

1066
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: and I love it when he's available. I love I

1067
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: love Sean Lee. I love the player, he's outstanding. But

1068
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to build a roster as if

1069
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: that guy's not going to be there. Because I'm hearing

1070
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: enough people and high places on this team who it

1071
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: seems like, have very real concerns about how often Randy

1072
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Gregory's going to be available to play football. And you

1073
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: feel like that Randy Gregory might play twelve games and

1074
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: not play anymore in his career for the Dallas Cowboys

1075
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: as possible when he pop drug tests. But I mean, yeah, sure,

1076
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: and it's possible. And he was very uh, I mean,

1077
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: he owned up to it. Look, look, we knew the

1078
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: risk coming in. He said, Look, if we didn't take

1079
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: him at sixty, someone else was gonna take him. Right,

1080
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: it probably would have been the Seahawks or someone like that. Right,

1081
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: what makes it a bummer is that finding an edge

1082
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: rusher is so hard to do. It's such a premium position,

1083
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: and there's just not a lot of them, And so

1084
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: the idea of building your roster like that without without

1085
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: having ready Gregory, You're going, Man, what do I gotta do? Now?

1086
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: I've got to miss DeMarcus Lawrence my best edge rusher?

1087
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: Right now? Am I bringing back Mincy? What am I

1088
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: doing in free agency? Who can I get in the draft? Like?

1089
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't want them to be in a position to

1090
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: be forced to go a defensive line. But that's well,

1091
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: it's the type of thing that at least crawls into

1092
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: your mind. Now, it's not a smart way to go

1093
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: about things, but it does crawl into your mind. I

1094
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: might need to get a defensive line in here, Dave,

1095
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: what do you think about Joey Bosa? I? He and

1096
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely just just from what you I'm

1097
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: the personal side of it at all. I'm just I'm

1098
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: influenced by you and other things that I've read, and

1099
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: I just, uh, I don't know, he makes a lot

1100
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: of sense to me, just in the fact it does

1101
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: make sense he makes so, and I wrote about that

1102
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: yesterday and encourage you to read it on Dallas Cowboys

1103
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: dot com. Solid player. And you know you have your

1104
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: concerns that maybe he'll never be like a truly a

1105
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: lead pass rusher. Sure easily the biggest position of need

1106
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: on this roster. I think he can be an immediate contributor.

1107
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: Maybe not like a ten SAC guy right away, but

1108
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: he'll immediately do something. You know. I know he had

1109
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: his own suspension, in his own problems, but he doesn't

1110
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: strike me as being a guy that you have to

1111
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: worry about. And I really do think that there's going

1112
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: to be some some Jason Garrett emphasis on, some right

1113
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of guys this offseason after the other way didn't

1114
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: work last year. Yeah I told you so. Yeah, yeah, kinda. So.

1115
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at it. And but to Kat's point,

1116
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate the idea of drafting a defensive

1117
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: end because you have to have one or else you

1118
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: got nobody. I sit here and look, and they've got

1119
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: cap room. I think they have to add bodies plural

1120
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: to that defensive line in free agency. I think you

1121
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: have to because you don't want to be in a

1122
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: position where you have to get Joey Bosa in order

1123
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: to have a viable defensive line in twenty sixteen. So

1124
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: maybe I mean, and you know, maybe they don't break

1125
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: the bank for a guy, but they just need to

1126
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: do some work to try try to upgrade the talent. There,

1127
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Jeff convinced me about Noah Spence. I was going to

1128
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: ask you about Noah Spence because I'll tell you this

1129
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: about about Spence. I do think you'd have to do

1130
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: this in before or yes, I'm absolutely talking about it.

1131
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it four because if he's on a team,

1132
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: he's going in the top ten. Okay, tell me if

1133
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: it's where he belongs, and it it with me. It

1134
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: comes with a question that I don't think I've heard

1135
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: from anybody else yet, but it's Noah Spence from the

1136
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: season to the Senior Bowl. To hear, it looks like

1137
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: has been taking off weight yea, and to me that

1138
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: it seems like he's gearing up to be an outside linebacker. Yeah.

1139
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: So my question is it is he willing and does

1140
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: a team want him? Do you pick him? And say, listen,

1141
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: I want you to put those fifteen back on because

1142
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm putting your hand in the dirt and you're gonna

1143
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: come off this edge and you're going to be my

1144
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: pass rusher, right, And you know, and that's my question

1145
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 1: because I tell you, I came out of this week,

1146
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: and I came out of his media availability to where

1147
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the character risk quote unquote, he's

1148
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: he's he's been far better shaped than a lot of

1149
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: guys spoke this week. I'm not I'm not worried about

1150
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: Noah Spence off the field. And maybe everybody can't say

1151
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: that to me, personally, I would feel good about it

1152
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: because I think I can prove that he's passed because

1153
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: I'll just tell him, I'll say, Hey, you said that

1154
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: you've been taking a drug test every week. But Randy

1155
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Gregory also told us when drafted Hey that the team

1156
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: that slicks me didn't have to worry about Gregory funked

1157
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: his here at the job interview man read to me,

1158
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: that's so much different. After he got suspended, I went

1159
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: back and read a story that, um, I think it

1160
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: was NFL dot com. They got a big they got

1161
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: a big story with Gregory and like the quotes were

1162
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: just amazing, you know, like you know this will never

1163
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: happen I recognize what I had to do. Blah blah blah,

1164
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: and like if you read the story, you had to

1165
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: come away from that convinced that this kid had it

1166
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: together because he's a likable guy. Absolutely is a likable

1167
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: and that's and you know, No, I'm not knocking Noah

1168
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: Spence at all. I thought he was very impressive in

1169
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: his interview with Yure, very mature handled everything, was very

1170
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: accountable U all of that said, I'm sitting here listening

1171
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: to Jeff going, so you're gonna take another tweener pass

1172
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: rusher with a history of failing drug tests, but this

1173
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: one rushes the passer, this one gets the edge, this

1174
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: one doesn't get blocked by tight ends. I'm Randy Gregory.

1175
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: We didn't have I bet if I went back, I

1176
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: bet I encourage anyone to go back to he had

1177
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: him in the second round before a drug test because

1178
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: of on field. We watched Randy Gregory on the feet

1179
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: and we thought he was a second round player in

1180
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: the fifth best defensive end. He just put me in

1181
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: my place. No, it's a fair question though, because a

1182
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: lot of people will do that, they'll go back and

1183
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: say something that it's not what they said. Last year. Sure,

1184
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: our concerns with Randy Gregory got by, he got blocked

1185
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: by tight ends. I just remember, and yeah, like Jeff said,

1186
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: hindsight's twenty twenty. But I just remember thinking he would

1187
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: have been such a better fit as a three four

1188
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: linebacker than a four three end. And I and I

1189
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: feel that way about Spence right now, especially having seen

1190
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: him here physically. How he doesn't look like he's supposed

1191
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: to be down on the line with with the big guys.

1192
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just me though. Okay, through the

1193
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: draft process. I want to ask you this though, because

1194
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: you've done this before, you know, for in the NFL,

1195
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: how possible is it or likely is it that you

1196
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: you meet with the guy here or whatever, are you

1197
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: set up of workout at Valley Ranch when you get

1198
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: your when you get your okay, and you kind of

1199
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: tell him, look, you do what we ask put on

1200
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: some weight, yeah, or we'll take you for We like

1201
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: you enough, just we need you to do what we're

1202
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: asking you to do. Is that something that the Cowboys

1203
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: can do? And how likely does that? How how much

1204
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: is that happening? I'm sure they've talked to him about Listen,

1205
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, you look like you keep dropping. Wait, we

1206
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: excite the seeing your ball. You're look you're getting you know. Yeah,

1207
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: it's something you can't really guarantee that you will take

1208
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: you but you have to find a way to say, Man,

1209
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: if we're gonna play, you're gonna play as a defensive end.

1210
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: We gotta and you gotta. You're gonna have to be

1211
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: at x amount of you know, pounds for us to

1212
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: be able to have some success potentially doing this. Let

1213
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: me ask you, let me throw out one more name,

1214
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: because he dropped the Cowboys name without even being asked

1215
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: about it here, and he is a top five player

1216
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: we thought and on tape as a three four end.

1217
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: He's not an edge rusher. But you're talking about you

1218
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: need to add talent to the defensive line to help

1219
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: somebody else get sacks or to just have a better

1220
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: defensive line product to Forrest Buckner yoked about him last night.

1221
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah was surprised, and I came away surprised by what

1222
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: you and Dane or yeah, you and Dane said, because

1223
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I said, I kind of had him written

1224
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: off as a three four guy. But they're over here

1225
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: telling me, yeah, maybe not so much. Well, the scouts

1226
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: Dali Ranch when the first mock came out and when

1227
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: mel Kiper had him as the guy, Buttner as the guy.

1228
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: A scout asked me, he's like, when we start drafting

1229
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: three four defensive ends, you know, and so, but I

1230
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: think what we need to think about this Cowboy defense

1231
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: now is it's gonna be about position flexibility. All the

1232
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: players I think on defense, Buckner could play three of them.

1233
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They're gonna they're gonna find. They're

1234
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna find that's exactly right, Bosa, Ramsey, Uh, you know,

1235
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: even each Miles j Jack. Yeah. So they're looking for

1236
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: eyes in this scheme that can play a lot of

1237
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: different positions. And I think that's why. I think that's

1238
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: why Buttner and I was I admitted too, I was

1239
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 1: a guy that wrote him off. I think he's gonna

1240
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: be a better three four defensive end. But the Cowboys

1241
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: met with him and the possibility of him playing four three.

1242
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: Teams are talking about him playing inside, so that would

1243
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: be at a three technique, but maybe even playing some

1244
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: defensive end as well. So a lot of names floating

1245
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: around as far as trying to help this defense. It's

1246
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see the next sixty days or

1247
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: so how this all puts together. So start fast and furious.

1248
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah we're gonna get the first one is like a

1249
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: week from Yeah, we'll get into all that too, So

1250
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair in the second round. There you go. All right,

1251
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: Well that's all the time we have here in Indianapolis.

1252
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I want to thank my guys Kevin Turner, Jeff Kavanaugh,

1253
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: David Hellman, is always Kent Garrison, Executive Blucer for always

1254
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: putting us on the air this week in Indiapolis. Thank

1255
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: you guys out there for joining us all this time.

1256
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: Thank you for all the questions, and thank you for everything. Really,

1257
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: thank you for caring about our show so much we appreciate.

1258
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: We'll be back next Friday, back in Valley Ranch, and

1259
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: hopefully another time we could get these guys on again.

1260
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: So take care and we'll say a night here from Indianapolis.