1 00:00:04,078 --> 00:00:07,358 Speaker 1: The Book of Joe Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:14,758 --> 00:00:15,838 Speaker 2: Hey Darren, welcome back. 3 00:00:15,878 --> 00:00:18,718 Speaker 1: It's The Book of Joe Podcast with me, Tom Berducci, 4 00:00:18,878 --> 00:00:23,558 Speaker 1: and Joe Madden and our special guest, it's Jerry Seinfeld. 5 00:00:23,838 --> 00:00:24,078 Speaker 3: Yeah. 6 00:00:24,198 --> 00:00:28,478 Speaker 4: The part of it that I found interesting, I really 7 00:00:28,598 --> 00:00:30,998 Speaker 4: felt he was just going to be died in a 8 00:00:30,998 --> 00:00:35,998 Speaker 4: woole traditionalist right. But he actually showed some progressive thinking 9 00:00:36,038 --> 00:00:39,558 Speaker 4: in some areas and kind of forced me to reach 10 00:00:39,558 --> 00:00:42,998 Speaker 4: into my bag there and start talking about the way 11 00:00:43,038 --> 00:00:45,358 Speaker 4: I see things, which was kind of interesting. I really 12 00:00:45,398 --> 00:00:47,438 Speaker 4: like the exchange a lot. You have to know what 13 00:00:47,478 --> 00:00:49,158 Speaker 4: you believe in, but you also have to be open 14 00:00:49,278 --> 00:00:52,118 Speaker 4: to something that you think or may believe is slightly 15 00:00:52,158 --> 00:00:53,638 Speaker 4: better than what you had thought in the past. 16 00:00:54,038 --> 00:00:57,878 Speaker 1: Now it's time for Jerry to turn the tables, and 17 00:00:57,958 --> 00:01:00,438 Speaker 1: Jerry starts asking us questions. 18 00:01:01,198 --> 00:01:03,158 Speaker 5: Let me ask both of you guys to answer this 19 00:01:03,238 --> 00:01:06,438 Speaker 5: question that I know know your fans would love to hear. 20 00:01:07,718 --> 00:01:09,358 Speaker 6: I would like to hear from each of you. 21 00:01:09,518 --> 00:01:14,718 Speaker 5: What is your basic night league baseball routine? What do 22 00:01:14,798 --> 00:01:18,958 Speaker 5: you do TV wise in your life in the summer? 23 00:01:18,998 --> 00:01:19,518 Speaker 6: What do you do? 24 00:01:19,998 --> 00:01:22,718 Speaker 1: This is when I'm not at the ballpark? Correct I'm home, 25 00:01:22,958 --> 00:01:26,918 Speaker 1: not at of course, I am a channel surfer. I 26 00:01:27,078 --> 00:01:31,638 Speaker 1: love the MLB Dot TV app, and I'm going in 27 00:01:31,678 --> 00:01:35,238 Speaker 1: and out of games myself. I'm my own director. This 28 00:01:35,318 --> 00:01:38,158 Speaker 1: is going to strike you as Jerry. But I did 29 00:01:38,198 --> 00:01:41,238 Speaker 1: grow up a Mets fan. My father's cousin was married 30 00:01:41,238 --> 00:01:43,878 Speaker 1: to Gil Hodges. We all grew up Mets fans. But 31 00:01:43,958 --> 00:01:46,158 Speaker 1: when I got in this business, i just started rooting 32 00:01:46,198 --> 00:01:47,438 Speaker 1: for good baseball game. 33 00:01:47,558 --> 00:01:48,878 Speaker 2: So I'm never disappointed. 34 00:01:49,398 --> 00:01:51,718 Speaker 1: So when I'm when I got all and I got 35 00:01:51,758 --> 00:01:54,918 Speaker 1: seven eight games going on, I love jumping around to 36 00:01:55,038 --> 00:01:57,958 Speaker 1: each game. I never want to see a commercial. That's 37 00:01:57,998 --> 00:02:02,558 Speaker 1: my goal for the evening. No commercials live baseball throughout. 38 00:02:02,758 --> 00:02:04,558 Speaker 6: We are as opposite this can be. 39 00:02:04,758 --> 00:02:08,638 Speaker 5: I watch a Met game, I watch every WB Mason commercial, 40 00:02:11,078 --> 00:02:15,598 Speaker 5: every ambulance chasing lawyer commercial. 41 00:02:16,798 --> 00:02:18,878 Speaker 6: And I never turned it off no matter what the 42 00:02:18,918 --> 00:02:19,438 Speaker 6: score is. 43 00:02:20,358 --> 00:02:23,878 Speaker 4: And I'm completely different. You know, I'm here in the 44 00:02:23,918 --> 00:02:26,878 Speaker 4: summer in Pennsylvania. This is like my second year I 45 00:02:26,878 --> 00:02:29,318 Speaker 4: think without doing this, maybe two and a half without 46 00:02:29,358 --> 00:02:30,358 Speaker 4: actually being involved. 47 00:02:30,838 --> 00:02:32,598 Speaker 3: So I sit down. 48 00:02:33,118 --> 00:02:35,998 Speaker 4: I'm pretty much active all day doing whatever, playing golf 49 00:02:36,078 --> 00:02:38,638 Speaker 4: or fixing around the house or taking care of the tomatoes. 50 00:02:38,678 --> 00:02:40,238 Speaker 4: Whatever it might be. But I do that all day. 51 00:02:40,278 --> 00:02:41,918 Speaker 4: But then it's time to sit down and have dinner. 52 00:02:42,238 --> 00:02:44,358 Speaker 4: I put David Muran, I go right to at six 53 00:02:44,518 --> 00:02:47,518 Speaker 4: thirty it's ABC News, and then I like him. I 54 00:02:47,598 --> 00:02:50,718 Speaker 4: like his delivery. And then after that, after that it's like, 55 00:02:51,878 --> 00:02:53,558 Speaker 4: I'll watch the Phillies because I know a lot of 56 00:02:53,558 --> 00:02:54,918 Speaker 4: the Phillies and I like the Phillies. 57 00:02:54,958 --> 00:02:57,398 Speaker 3: I like the charismatic component of that team. 58 00:02:57,438 --> 00:03:00,998 Speaker 4: I watch the Yankees only because again they're the Yankees, 59 00:03:00,998 --> 00:03:02,958 Speaker 4: and it's interesting. And I read the New York the 60 00:03:02,958 --> 00:03:05,038 Speaker 4: only paper. It is a new post every day. That's 61 00:03:05,078 --> 00:03:07,678 Speaker 4: my source of news. So I read that every day, 62 00:03:07,758 --> 00:03:10,758 Speaker 4: and so it's there. It's the best, and and Jill 63 00:03:10,878 --> 00:03:14,158 Speaker 4: Sherman best. So I'll do those two things. And then 64 00:03:14,398 --> 00:03:16,598 Speaker 4: will I will fade in and out of games. 65 00:03:16,718 --> 00:03:17,998 Speaker 3: I will peruse. 66 00:03:18,158 --> 00:03:20,598 Speaker 4: I will peruse a thought that comes to my head 67 00:03:20,998 --> 00:03:25,118 Speaker 4: right now, poxying a floor in my greenhouse. I'll go 68 00:03:25,158 --> 00:03:27,078 Speaker 4: to that as an example. How many time coachs I 69 00:03:27,118 --> 00:03:28,878 Speaker 4: have to put on? How long does it need to dry? 70 00:03:29,038 --> 00:03:30,638 Speaker 4: But I'll be all over the map. I just don't 71 00:03:30,678 --> 00:03:32,878 Speaker 4: sit there and Jones on a game all night long. 72 00:03:33,398 --> 00:03:35,318 Speaker 4: I don't think I've watched the game first of the 73 00:03:35,438 --> 00:03:38,158 Speaker 4: ninth inning complete, and I can't even tell how many 74 00:03:38,238 --> 00:03:40,398 Speaker 4: years I don't so like even like when I've got 75 00:03:40,438 --> 00:03:42,838 Speaker 4: to talk to Tommy. When I got to talk to Tommy, 76 00:03:42,718 --> 00:03:45,038 Speaker 4: You're like, do other gigs. I mean, I have to 77 00:03:45,078 --> 00:03:47,358 Speaker 4: catch up a little bit. But I rely on everything 78 00:03:47,358 --> 00:03:49,398 Speaker 4: I've done in the past, and I rely on a 79 00:03:49,398 --> 00:03:52,518 Speaker 4: New York Post primarily, and that's it. And then I 80 00:03:52,558 --> 00:03:54,278 Speaker 4: wake up and I get up about five thirty in 81 00:03:54,358 --> 00:03:56,198 Speaker 4: the morning, and I'm ready to roll and do it again. 82 00:03:56,598 --> 00:03:59,638 Speaker 5: So what are you looking at doing now, Joe? Are 83 00:03:59,638 --> 00:04:01,478 Speaker 5: you happy with what you're doing now or are you 84 00:04:01,638 --> 00:04:02,198 Speaker 5: looking around? 85 00:04:02,638 --> 00:04:05,158 Speaker 4: I'm pretty happy with what I'm doing right now. Honestly, 86 00:04:05,198 --> 00:04:08,358 Speaker 4: this podcast helps a lot. Keeps me connected. I do 87 00:04:08,438 --> 00:04:11,238 Speaker 4: once a week on MLB Network with Brian Kenny. That 88 00:04:11,358 --> 00:04:14,838 Speaker 4: keeps me connected. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it again. 89 00:04:14,878 --> 00:04:17,118 Speaker 4: I would do it again with the right group. And 90 00:04:17,158 --> 00:04:20,398 Speaker 4: I've said this publicly. I need somebody to be a 91 00:04:20,438 --> 00:04:23,238 Speaker 4: partner with and not somebody to try to control everything 92 00:04:23,238 --> 00:04:27,198 Speaker 4: you do. I'm into owners being owners. I'm into gms 93 00:04:27,238 --> 00:04:30,678 Speaker 4: being GMS, managers being managers and coaches and scouts being 94 00:04:30,718 --> 00:04:32,798 Speaker 4: coaches and scouts. I don't think that's what's happening. And 95 00:04:32,838 --> 00:04:35,038 Speaker 4: I also believe that a lot of the fund's been 96 00:04:35,078 --> 00:04:38,998 Speaker 4: subtracted from the clubhouse to the field because too much. 97 00:04:38,798 --> 00:04:39,878 Speaker 3: Of it's being controlled. 98 00:04:40,238 --> 00:04:43,238 Speaker 4: So I need somebody that's willing to balance things a 99 00:04:43,238 --> 00:04:45,718 Speaker 4: little bit better. I listen, I'm all. I love analytics, 100 00:04:45,758 --> 00:04:48,918 Speaker 4: I love numbers. I love to morph them together with 101 00:04:48,958 --> 00:04:51,118 Speaker 4: all the experience I've had and all the knowledge I've 102 00:04:51,118 --> 00:04:53,358 Speaker 4: gained over the years that I've done this, But just 103 00:04:53,398 --> 00:04:55,958 Speaker 4: don't give me a print sheet and tell me to 104 00:04:55,998 --> 00:04:58,998 Speaker 4: follow this and just totally be void of everything I've 105 00:04:59,038 --> 00:05:01,878 Speaker 4: learned at this point, because that's pretty much what's gone to. 106 00:05:02,078 --> 00:05:04,398 Speaker 4: So if I could find that person and it really 107 00:05:04,438 --> 00:05:07,758 Speaker 4: wants to create a marriage and let me manage and 108 00:05:07,998 --> 00:05:10,598 Speaker 4: absolutely collaborate, that's what I would look for. 109 00:05:10,838 --> 00:05:14,438 Speaker 5: Could I have a Pennant prediction from each of you guys? 110 00:05:14,518 --> 00:05:17,838 Speaker 5: Who do you like to win the al Pennant NL Pennant? 111 00:05:17,878 --> 00:05:21,878 Speaker 2: Good, Tommy, I'm going to stick with my preseason pick, Jerry. 112 00:05:21,878 --> 00:05:25,038 Speaker 1: I don't want to get off at this stage basically 113 00:05:25,038 --> 00:05:28,518 Speaker 1: because I don't like to travel a whole lot. Phillies 114 00:05:28,558 --> 00:05:31,958 Speaker 1: and Orioles, Philadelphia and Baltimore's. 115 00:05:32,118 --> 00:05:33,038 Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense. 116 00:05:33,158 --> 00:05:34,118 Speaker 2: I'm going to stick with that. 117 00:05:34,198 --> 00:05:36,678 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit concerned about Baltimore these days because 118 00:05:36,678 --> 00:05:39,398 Speaker 1: the Yankees now haven't got their acting gear again. But 119 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:42,598 Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with Philadelphia Baltimore. How about you, Joe, 120 00:05:42,758 --> 00:05:43,038 Speaker 1: It's it. 121 00:05:43,638 --> 00:05:44,558 Speaker 3: I mean, I had it. 122 00:05:44,838 --> 00:05:46,518 Speaker 4: That's exactly where I was at with the whole thing. 123 00:05:46,718 --> 00:05:50,038 Speaker 4: Brandon Hyde, Jerry's my former bench coach. I really have 124 00:05:50,078 --> 00:05:51,598 Speaker 4: a lot of faith in him. I love the way 125 00:05:51,638 --> 00:05:54,158 Speaker 4: he does things there. I like the youth with that 126 00:05:54,198 --> 00:05:55,718 Speaker 4: team and the depth, so I think they're going to 127 00:05:55,758 --> 00:05:58,638 Speaker 4: be there to the very end. And the Phillies, like 128 00:05:58,678 --> 00:06:00,398 Speaker 4: I said, I think they're a bunch of tough guys. 129 00:06:00,678 --> 00:06:00,878 Speaker 5: Yeah. 130 00:06:00,918 --> 00:06:01,838 Speaker 3: I like tough guys. 131 00:06:01,918 --> 00:06:04,918 Speaker 4: I like guys, and I think the Philly's alumni are 132 00:06:04,958 --> 00:06:06,518 Speaker 4: a bunch of tough guys. And I like the fact 133 00:06:06,558 --> 00:06:09,638 Speaker 4: that they're around the city. You have to be somewhat 134 00:06:10,078 --> 00:06:13,078 Speaker 4: firm in your conviction in order to deal with that daily. 135 00:06:13,158 --> 00:06:16,638 Speaker 4: So I like that too. Tommy, and we had not 136 00:06:16,718 --> 00:06:18,678 Speaker 4: rehearsed this at all. I liked Phillis Orioles. 137 00:06:18,798 --> 00:06:24,158 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take Dodgers, Yankees soo Fox, Jerry, sood Fox. 138 00:06:25,358 --> 00:06:26,998 Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, hey, Jerry. 139 00:06:27,078 --> 00:06:28,998 Speaker 1: One of the things we love talking about on this 140 00:06:29,038 --> 00:06:32,438 Speaker 1: podcast has been glue. Guys, you know the chemistry of 141 00:06:32,478 --> 00:06:35,478 Speaker 1: a unit and how it works. And you know, a 142 00:06:35,518 --> 00:06:38,118 Speaker 1: while back on we had Max Weinberg, the drummer of 143 00:06:38,118 --> 00:06:42,358 Speaker 1: the Bruce springste and the Eastreet Band, and he talked 144 00:06:42,398 --> 00:06:45,358 Speaker 1: about how, you know, as successful as they were, why 145 00:06:45,398 --> 00:06:49,118 Speaker 1: it worked and worked for so long, which you don't 146 00:06:49,118 --> 00:06:51,918 Speaker 1: see a lot in bands these days for sure. With 147 00:06:52,118 --> 00:06:54,958 Speaker 1: your group being together with the show for so long, 148 00:06:55,278 --> 00:06:58,398 Speaker 1: what do you think what was the glue to that group, 149 00:06:58,478 --> 00:07:00,958 Speaker 1: whether it was a person, whether it was a vibe, 150 00:07:01,718 --> 00:07:05,278 Speaker 1: what made it work as a team. 151 00:07:04,038 --> 00:07:10,038 Speaker 5: M Well, I guess that would probably land in my 152 00:07:10,158 --> 00:07:13,358 Speaker 5: lap because I was the only guy who worked with 153 00:07:13,518 --> 00:07:17,598 Speaker 5: all the actors and all the writers every day. I 154 00:07:17,638 --> 00:07:21,238 Speaker 5: would rehearse all morning into the afternoon with the actors 155 00:07:21,238 --> 00:07:23,878 Speaker 5: and then starting at like two or three, it was 156 00:07:23,918 --> 00:07:27,318 Speaker 5: in the writer's room and we'd be writing till we 157 00:07:27,558 --> 00:07:31,798 Speaker 5: you know, till we ran out of guess, so that 158 00:07:31,958 --> 00:07:34,998 Speaker 5: was really my job to try and keep everybody happy. 159 00:07:35,078 --> 00:07:37,958 Speaker 5: And I just kind of have an even keel way 160 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:41,358 Speaker 5: of going about things that you'd be surprised a lot 161 00:07:41,398 --> 00:07:43,838 Speaker 5: of people when they have their own show, they really 162 00:07:44,318 --> 00:07:47,998 Speaker 5: have trouble doing that. They start to act out, they 163 00:07:48,038 --> 00:07:52,798 Speaker 5: start to you know, it's the most boring story in 164 00:07:52,838 --> 00:07:56,398 Speaker 5: the world. But you know, but we never stopped seeing it. 165 00:07:56,998 --> 00:08:03,398 Speaker 5: Of things going to people's heads and they're not playing 166 00:08:03,398 --> 00:08:10,718 Speaker 5: the game. They they know they can play it. To me, ego, narcissism, 167 00:08:09,278 --> 00:08:13,518 Speaker 5: these are the most dangerous things. I have three kids, 168 00:08:13,558 --> 00:08:15,558 Speaker 5: and I talk to them about it. I've been watching this. 169 00:08:16,878 --> 00:08:19,358 Speaker 5: Netflix has got some great shows now. They do a 170 00:08:19,398 --> 00:08:22,838 Speaker 5: show on receivers. They do a show on sprinters that 171 00:08:22,878 --> 00:08:26,358 Speaker 5: I'm watching now. I've always been obsessed with sprinters and 172 00:08:27,678 --> 00:08:30,798 Speaker 5: watching how they go about their work and how they 173 00:08:30,838 --> 00:08:36,078 Speaker 5: handle success. Handling money and success, I would say, is 174 00:08:36,118 --> 00:08:38,358 Speaker 5: the trickiest part of any. 175 00:08:38,198 --> 00:08:40,118 Speaker 6: Of these professions. 176 00:08:40,158 --> 00:08:42,918 Speaker 5: You know, you win the one hundred meters, your life 177 00:08:42,998 --> 00:08:46,758 Speaker 5: changes overnight, and it's this and I kind of went 178 00:08:46,758 --> 00:08:49,958 Speaker 5: through that in comedy. I was lucky that my success 179 00:08:50,078 --> 00:08:53,078 Speaker 5: came very, very gradually, even on the TV series. It 180 00:08:53,198 --> 00:08:55,878 Speaker 5: was so gradual. We were doing the show three and 181 00:08:55,918 --> 00:08:58,158 Speaker 5: a half four years. We were one of the lowest 182 00:08:58,238 --> 00:09:00,678 Speaker 5: rated shows on TV. So by the time people even 183 00:09:00,758 --> 00:09:04,598 Speaker 5: noticed it was on, we were really good, get totally 184 00:09:04,678 --> 00:09:08,398 Speaker 5: gelled as a writing staff and as a troop of actors, 185 00:09:09,158 --> 00:09:12,518 Speaker 5: and so people never saw our growing pains. Joe of 186 00:09:12,598 --> 00:09:14,558 Speaker 5: course has because he watches every episode. 187 00:09:14,838 --> 00:09:18,358 Speaker 3: I do, I got it, but even the looks my god. 188 00:09:19,038 --> 00:09:21,358 Speaker 5: So so that you know, and I talk to the 189 00:09:21,398 --> 00:09:24,358 Speaker 5: kids about this, you know, they all want. Everybody wants 190 00:09:24,358 --> 00:09:26,478 Speaker 5: to make it. You know, everybody wants to hit it. 191 00:09:26,518 --> 00:09:29,038 Speaker 5: The money. People know who I am, they know what 192 00:09:29,078 --> 00:09:32,518 Speaker 5: I'm doing. No one tells them. You got to be 193 00:09:32,638 --> 00:09:35,718 Speaker 5: careful at that moment when the money. I'll never forget 194 00:09:35,958 --> 00:09:39,758 Speaker 5: when NBC said to us, you can spend any amount 195 00:09:39,798 --> 00:09:42,758 Speaker 5: of money you want on making these shows. 196 00:09:42,918 --> 00:09:44,758 Speaker 6: And I was lucky enough. 197 00:09:44,838 --> 00:09:47,958 Speaker 5: I don't know where I got the head, but I 198 00:09:48,078 --> 00:09:53,398 Speaker 5: knew that's dangerous, that's dangerous. Being funny with no money 199 00:09:53,838 --> 00:09:56,358 Speaker 5: is the way to do it. And suddenly when you 200 00:09:56,398 --> 00:10:00,718 Speaker 5: can afford anything, and you know, this is why I 201 00:10:01,078 --> 00:10:04,838 Speaker 5: am not as much of I don't these teams that 202 00:10:04,918 --> 00:10:07,478 Speaker 5: try and buy it, and I think we've seen the 203 00:10:07,878 --> 00:10:10,838 Speaker 5: perils of trying to buy it, and they all do it. 204 00:10:10,878 --> 00:10:11,798 Speaker 6: They can't resist. 205 00:10:12,558 --> 00:10:15,878 Speaker 5: So not getting carried away when something starts to work 206 00:10:16,278 --> 00:10:20,838 Speaker 5: and sticking to your process, your method, your system, and 207 00:10:20,958 --> 00:10:25,918 Speaker 5: ignoring results. I know, Joe, you've probably been saying this 208 00:10:26,038 --> 00:10:29,238 Speaker 5: your whole life is the process forget the results. It's 209 00:10:29,318 --> 00:10:33,038 Speaker 5: very zen, it's very stoicism. That was how we did 210 00:10:33,078 --> 00:10:34,038 Speaker 5: it on the show. 211 00:10:34,598 --> 00:10:34,838 Speaker 6: You know. 212 00:10:34,998 --> 00:10:37,118 Speaker 5: No, my car was the first one there and the 213 00:10:37,198 --> 00:10:40,798 Speaker 5: last one gone every night. Me and Larry, our cars 214 00:10:40,798 --> 00:10:43,518 Speaker 5: were there every weekend, Saturday and Sunday. 215 00:10:43,878 --> 00:10:44,878 Speaker 6: And everybody knew it. 216 00:10:45,318 --> 00:10:49,118 Speaker 5: Everybody knew it, and so they don't mess with you, 217 00:10:49,238 --> 00:10:52,318 Speaker 5: and they listen to you, and they know you're working 218 00:10:52,358 --> 00:10:54,798 Speaker 5: harder than anybody and that you get that respect. 219 00:10:55,358 --> 00:11:00,198 Speaker 6: That's my version of the glue. That's my version of it. 220 00:11:00,438 --> 00:11:02,878 Speaker 4: You're just describing the minor leagues. It's incredible you just 221 00:11:02,878 --> 00:11:04,798 Speaker 4: said and how you said it. I mean, as you're 222 00:11:04,838 --> 00:11:07,678 Speaker 4: taking me through all those different years in Idaho Falls, 223 00:11:07,678 --> 00:11:11,158 Speaker 4: in Salem, Oregon, and Middland, Texas, and all the things 224 00:11:11,198 --> 00:11:14,398 Speaker 4: that you've learned along the way, you stash it away 225 00:11:14,438 --> 00:11:16,038 Speaker 4: and then a moment pops up and all of a sudden, 226 00:11:16,078 --> 00:11:18,158 Speaker 4: you have these different experiences. 227 00:11:17,638 --> 00:11:18,158 Speaker 3: To draw in. 228 00:11:18,838 --> 00:11:21,878 Speaker 4: And by being able to have that experience to drawn 229 00:11:22,798 --> 00:11:26,238 Speaker 4: it permits you to react in the situation, or you 230 00:11:26,318 --> 00:11:28,838 Speaker 4: recall something and you're able to apply it immediately to 231 00:11:28,878 --> 00:11:30,878 Speaker 4: what you're doing at that moment. I love that, the 232 00:11:30,918 --> 00:11:33,598 Speaker 4: fact that you've earned it. Having said all that, it's 233 00:11:33,638 --> 00:11:36,318 Speaker 4: a question I wrote down before we even started, because 234 00:11:36,358 --> 00:11:37,998 Speaker 4: it happened to me, and I think it happens to 235 00:11:37,998 --> 00:11:39,758 Speaker 4: anybody that becomes somewhat successful. 236 00:11:40,398 --> 00:11:41,118 Speaker 3: There's got to be a. 237 00:11:41,078 --> 00:11:44,838 Speaker 4: Point where you might have questioned the direction you're going 238 00:11:44,878 --> 00:11:46,158 Speaker 4: in or is this going to really work? 239 00:11:46,198 --> 00:11:47,998 Speaker 3: Do I need to look for something differently? 240 00:11:48,998 --> 00:11:51,718 Speaker 4: I know that my crossroads came in Boulder, Colorado in 241 00:11:51,798 --> 00:11:54,518 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty and I had a chance to go, like 242 00:11:54,638 --> 00:11:56,838 Speaker 4: to go to Europe, to go to Italy to play 243 00:11:56,878 --> 00:11:59,558 Speaker 4: some ball and have a good time and whatever. But 244 00:11:59,918 --> 00:12:02,118 Speaker 4: I chose to stick around and eventually I got a 245 00:12:02,198 --> 00:12:03,878 Speaker 4: job with the Angels. 246 00:12:04,038 --> 00:12:07,198 Speaker 1: Really interesting, and after this break, we need to talk 247 00:12:07,238 --> 00:12:10,958 Speaker 1: to Jerry about how did he avoid the outside noise 248 00:12:10,998 --> 00:12:14,078 Speaker 1: and how did he keep the show Seinfeld fresh for 249 00:12:14,238 --> 00:12:15,078 Speaker 1: so many years. 250 00:12:15,638 --> 00:12:30,998 Speaker 2: We'll do that right after this Welcome Back. It's the 251 00:12:30,998 --> 00:12:33,638 Speaker 2: Book of Joe podcast with our guest Jerry Seinfeld. 252 00:12:33,998 --> 00:12:37,718 Speaker 1: And Jerry, can you think back in pinpoint one moment 253 00:12:38,438 --> 00:12:42,278 Speaker 1: where you kept your show, Seinfeld got a back on track, 254 00:12:42,358 --> 00:12:44,878 Speaker 1: a key point in the success of that show. 255 00:12:45,438 --> 00:12:49,518 Speaker 5: Yes, when I was in the mid eighties, I was 256 00:12:49,558 --> 00:12:52,878 Speaker 5: on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson three or four 257 00:12:52,878 --> 00:12:55,958 Speaker 5: times a year. I was on David Letterman several times 258 00:12:55,958 --> 00:12:58,278 Speaker 5: a year, and I was doing comedy clubs, which was 259 00:12:58,398 --> 00:13:01,358 Speaker 5: kind of the big thing of the eighties. But nothing 260 00:13:01,358 --> 00:13:04,438 Speaker 5: else was happening, and I kind of felt that I 261 00:13:04,518 --> 00:13:06,958 Speaker 5: had plateaued and that was it. It was never going 262 00:13:06,998 --> 00:13:11,958 Speaker 5: to go anywhere, and I did feel some frustration then, and. 263 00:13:13,638 --> 00:13:14,958 Speaker 6: Even though honestly stand up was the. 264 00:13:14,958 --> 00:13:17,678 Speaker 5: Only thing I ever really wanted to do, everything else 265 00:13:17,678 --> 00:13:20,358 Speaker 5: I've done in my career was somebody else's idea that 266 00:13:20,438 --> 00:13:23,278 Speaker 5: I just tried to pull off as best I could. 267 00:13:23,358 --> 00:13:25,918 Speaker 5: Even the TV series was not my idea. It was 268 00:13:26,038 --> 00:13:28,518 Speaker 5: my managers and Larry and I came up with it. 269 00:13:28,558 --> 00:13:31,278 Speaker 5: And then I just thought, well, I don't know how 270 00:13:31,318 --> 00:13:33,038 Speaker 5: to do this, but luck but Larry didn't know how 271 00:13:33,038 --> 00:13:35,198 Speaker 5: to do it either, so that was fun that we 272 00:13:35,318 --> 00:13:37,318 Speaker 5: both figured it out and we said, let's just do 273 00:13:37,358 --> 00:13:39,958 Speaker 5: this the way we want, even though nobody else. 274 00:13:39,798 --> 00:13:40,598 Speaker 6: Does it this way. 275 00:13:41,278 --> 00:13:44,678 Speaker 5: But yeah, in the mid eighties, there were in my thirties, 276 00:13:44,718 --> 00:13:48,158 Speaker 5: I was kind of giving up and I just thought, well, 277 00:13:48,198 --> 00:13:50,038 Speaker 5: I might as well just get married to start having 278 00:13:50,078 --> 00:13:53,318 Speaker 5: some kids. This is nothing's ever really going to happen here. 279 00:13:54,158 --> 00:13:57,598 Speaker 5: And yeah, I wobbled a little bit at that point, 280 00:13:58,038 --> 00:14:00,438 Speaker 5: and then before I knew it, I was off. 281 00:14:00,278 --> 00:14:02,518 Speaker 4: On that other thing you said, the way we wanted 282 00:14:02,558 --> 00:14:04,518 Speaker 4: I love that, the way you and I already wanted 283 00:14:04,558 --> 00:14:07,318 Speaker 4: to do it. That's so important, I think, to to 284 00:14:07,478 --> 00:14:09,478 Speaker 4: like a real high level of a success where you're 285 00:14:09,518 --> 00:14:11,238 Speaker 4: not interfered with, nobody got in the way of your 286 00:14:11,238 --> 00:14:13,678 Speaker 4: greatness kind of. I mean, that's one thing that I 287 00:14:13,758 --> 00:14:15,838 Speaker 4: Tommy and I talk about often. I think the way 288 00:14:15,878 --> 00:14:18,838 Speaker 4: the game structured sometimes and everybody's trying to be the 289 00:14:18,838 --> 00:14:21,878 Speaker 4: same guy. You just don't know if you're inhibiting greatness 290 00:14:21,958 --> 00:14:24,278 Speaker 4: or not. But the fact and kind of what I 291 00:14:24,318 --> 00:14:25,838 Speaker 4: was talking about when you asked me what I wanted 292 00:14:25,838 --> 00:14:26,358 Speaker 4: to do. 293 00:14:27,678 --> 00:14:29,038 Speaker 3: The way we wanted to do it. 294 00:14:29,278 --> 00:14:31,158 Speaker 4: Now, I'm not saying it to the point like it's again, 295 00:14:31,198 --> 00:14:35,358 Speaker 4: that's not a narcissistic comment. It's just you've you've you've learned, 296 00:14:35,358 --> 00:14:37,438 Speaker 4: and you've you have an idea in your mind's eye 297 00:14:37,478 --> 00:14:39,598 Speaker 4: how to get this thing done, what works, what doesn't work, 298 00:14:40,038 --> 00:14:42,238 Speaker 4: and and to have it interfered with could be you know, 299 00:14:42,238 --> 00:14:45,318 Speaker 4: it could really mess with the process. And furthermore, then 300 00:14:45,358 --> 00:14:47,598 Speaker 4: you start creating some doubt with in your own mind. 301 00:14:47,598 --> 00:14:48,838 Speaker 4: You got to do, you got to go out there, 302 00:14:48,838 --> 00:14:50,918 Speaker 4: You got to go out there and do some crazy stuff, 303 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:53,038 Speaker 4: because you have to be a little bit crazy to 304 00:14:53,038 --> 00:14:53,398 Speaker 4: be great. 305 00:14:53,478 --> 00:14:53,878 Speaker 3: I think. 306 00:14:53,918 --> 00:14:56,718 Speaker 4: So it's wonderful to hear that, just that little phrase 307 00:14:56,758 --> 00:14:58,958 Speaker 4: the way we want it, I think to me, I 308 00:14:58,958 --> 00:15:01,758 Speaker 4: think if you talk to most really successful people, you're 309 00:15:01,798 --> 00:15:03,798 Speaker 4: here at some point where they arrived at that kind 310 00:15:03,838 --> 00:15:06,438 Speaker 4: of a crossroads, and they follow their own instincts. They 311 00:15:06,438 --> 00:15:09,318 Speaker 4: followed their own compass in order to become whatever they became, 312 00:15:09,638 --> 00:15:11,798 Speaker 4: as opposed to trying to rely on everybody else always 313 00:15:11,798 --> 00:15:12,638 Speaker 4: to tell them what to do. 314 00:15:13,038 --> 00:15:15,238 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you what the big turn was if 315 00:15:15,278 --> 00:15:17,478 Speaker 5: we did We had done the show a couple of seasons, 316 00:15:17,478 --> 00:15:20,838 Speaker 5: and NBC and everybody watching said, boy, Jerry and Julia 317 00:15:20,878 --> 00:15:23,758 Speaker 5: Louis Dreyfuss really have a nice chemistry. Why don't we 318 00:15:23,838 --> 00:15:26,038 Speaker 5: put them together as a couple. And they put tremendous 319 00:15:26,078 --> 00:15:29,518 Speaker 5: pressure on Larry and I to put Jerry and Elane 320 00:15:29,878 --> 00:15:32,878 Speaker 5: together as a couple. Let's have them day, let's have 321 00:15:32,958 --> 00:15:35,838 Speaker 5: them get married. And Larry and I knew that is 322 00:15:35,878 --> 00:15:38,598 Speaker 5: not the road to comedy because the show was not 323 00:15:38,798 --> 00:15:40,318 Speaker 5: about that. 324 00:15:40,478 --> 00:15:42,998 Speaker 6: It was about we were both single. That was the 325 00:15:42,998 --> 00:15:43,798 Speaker 6: world we knew. 326 00:15:44,198 --> 00:15:47,918 Speaker 5: And four Dysfunctional Singles is going to be funnier than 327 00:15:47,998 --> 00:15:50,358 Speaker 5: a couple. You know, there were lots of shows with 328 00:15:50,438 --> 00:15:54,918 Speaker 5: couples and they they turned the screws on us with that, 329 00:15:54,958 --> 00:15:56,758 Speaker 5: and we said, sorry, but we're not going to do 330 00:15:56,838 --> 00:15:59,358 Speaker 5: it because we don't think it's funny awesome. We don't 331 00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:01,558 Speaker 5: think couples are funny. I still don't think I could. 332 00:16:02,278 --> 00:16:04,318 Speaker 5: I could write a show about being married now having 333 00:16:04,438 --> 00:16:07,438 Speaker 5: been married, but anyway, that was kind of a turning 334 00:16:07,478 --> 00:16:09,118 Speaker 5: point where we said, no, this show is about jokes. 335 00:16:09,118 --> 00:16:12,638 Speaker 5: It's about funny situations. It's not about how does this couple? 336 00:16:12,998 --> 00:16:16,118 Speaker 5: You know, it's not a romantic show. But the only 337 00:16:16,558 --> 00:16:20,038 Speaker 5: question I would like to I love that George. 338 00:16:19,758 --> 00:16:21,878 Speaker 6: Will baseball book men at work. 339 00:16:21,918 --> 00:16:23,878 Speaker 5: I think one of the things we all love about 340 00:16:24,198 --> 00:16:26,358 Speaker 5: baseball is you get to see how a guy goes 341 00:16:26,398 --> 00:16:29,158 Speaker 5: about his work, and I think we relate to that. 342 00:16:29,718 --> 00:16:33,318 Speaker 5: We're interested and entertained by it, we think, well, I 343 00:16:33,358 --> 00:16:36,398 Speaker 5: wouldn't go about it that way. Tom, Sure, I know 344 00:16:36,438 --> 00:16:39,878 Speaker 5: you remember in the twenty fifteen World Series when the 345 00:16:39,918 --> 00:16:43,478 Speaker 5: crowd was chanting to get Matt Harvey to go out 346 00:16:43,518 --> 00:16:46,198 Speaker 5: for the ninth and I have to admit I was 347 00:16:46,238 --> 00:16:49,598 Speaker 5: also cheering. I think it was we want mad or 348 00:16:49,638 --> 00:16:52,118 Speaker 5: something like that, we want Harvey. 349 00:16:52,198 --> 00:16:53,518 Speaker 2: It was a great moment. 350 00:16:54,198 --> 00:16:57,518 Speaker 5: But Tom, the moment was as soon as Terry lets 351 00:16:57,598 --> 00:17:01,518 Speaker 5: him go back out and he sprints to the mound, 352 00:17:02,398 --> 00:17:05,718 Speaker 5: and I knew it was over right then, because that's 353 00:17:05,758 --> 00:17:06,598 Speaker 5: not your process. 354 00:17:07,638 --> 00:17:09,718 Speaker 2: Yeah, as it turned out, you're hundred percent right. 355 00:17:09,798 --> 00:17:11,358 Speaker 1: I had said on the air, because I'm doing the 356 00:17:11,438 --> 00:17:14,598 Speaker 1: game of Fox that I understand him going back out, 357 00:17:14,638 --> 00:17:17,438 Speaker 1: But the minute anybody gets on base, he has to 358 00:17:17,438 --> 00:17:19,918 Speaker 1: come out of the game, right, because then you're really 359 00:17:19,998 --> 00:17:23,678 Speaker 1: stressed out, you know, getting in a stretch position. He 360 00:17:23,798 --> 00:17:26,398 Speaker 1: had surgery of the year before, you know, he's deep 361 00:17:26,398 --> 00:17:29,278 Speaker 1: into an innings county he probably shouldn't have had anyway, 362 00:17:29,518 --> 00:17:31,998 Speaker 1: Now you're deep into this game, World Series all that, 363 00:17:32,638 --> 00:17:35,118 Speaker 1: the minute somebody's on base, you got to get him out. 364 00:17:35,438 --> 00:17:37,518 Speaker 5: But the question I want to get to Joe is 365 00:17:37,838 --> 00:17:41,798 Speaker 5: what guys do you think back on in your career, 366 00:17:42,318 --> 00:17:47,518 Speaker 5: who's approach to the work was something that impressed you 367 00:17:47,678 --> 00:17:49,918 Speaker 5: and you admired. 368 00:17:50,318 --> 00:17:52,838 Speaker 4: Wow, there's honestly, Joe, there's a lot of guys that's 369 00:17:52,838 --> 00:17:54,398 Speaker 4: That's the one thing about professional of. 370 00:17:54,398 --> 00:17:55,518 Speaker 6: Course, there's got to be a time. 371 00:17:55,678 --> 00:17:57,398 Speaker 3: Well, I I could go back. I mean, I could 372 00:17:57,438 --> 00:17:58,638 Speaker 3: go back to my angel days. 373 00:17:58,838 --> 00:18:03,118 Speaker 4: Darren Nurstadt was one of the best or most complete 374 00:18:03,118 --> 00:18:06,718 Speaker 4: professionals ever met. Nobody worked harder than Ersty, nobody had 375 00:18:07,038 --> 00:18:09,518 Speaker 4: he had everybody's respect. I meanan is he he had 376 00:18:09,558 --> 00:18:11,318 Speaker 4: that that look. He didn't have to say a word, 377 00:18:11,318 --> 00:18:13,838 Speaker 4: but his look would just undress you. You know, like 378 00:18:13,878 --> 00:18:15,598 Speaker 4: so if a player got out of line a little bit, 379 00:18:15,638 --> 00:18:17,038 Speaker 4: he would just he would just give him the thirsty 380 00:18:17,118 --> 00:18:17,838 Speaker 4: look and you're done. 381 00:18:18,158 --> 00:18:18,438 Speaker 6: That's it. 382 00:18:19,358 --> 00:18:22,438 Speaker 4: You a message delivered. You know, you got it and 383 00:18:22,038 --> 00:18:25,438 Speaker 4: you straightened out. So, I mean, Ersty was really one 384 00:18:25,598 --> 00:18:29,318 Speaker 4: that I really respected regarding how he worked and how 385 00:18:29,478 --> 00:18:32,478 Speaker 4: and how hard he worked and how smartly he worked. Also, 386 00:18:33,078 --> 00:18:36,478 Speaker 4: uh more recently, you know, oh Tawny really I got him. 387 00:18:36,518 --> 00:18:38,038 Speaker 3: I'm gonna jump Oh, I mean, my god. 388 00:18:38,958 --> 00:18:41,038 Speaker 4: The thing that everybody was critical of Showy because he 389 00:18:41,118 --> 00:18:42,798 Speaker 4: didn't do a lot of work on the field, but 390 00:18:42,838 --> 00:18:45,798 Speaker 4: he does all kinds of work off the field, and nobody. 391 00:18:45,598 --> 00:18:46,478 Speaker 3: Can be more prepared. 392 00:18:46,518 --> 00:18:48,238 Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about the game as it is 393 00:18:48,358 --> 00:18:52,518 Speaker 4: right now, and there's others talking about attempting to do 394 00:18:52,598 --> 00:18:55,678 Speaker 4: both pitch and hit. My god, it's hard enough to 395 00:18:55,678 --> 00:18:58,198 Speaker 4: do that when you're in high school in college where 396 00:18:58,198 --> 00:19:00,198 Speaker 4: you play three or four days a week, let alone 397 00:19:00,718 --> 00:19:03,878 Speaker 4: professionally on a nightly basis where okay, he pitches one, 398 00:19:04,118 --> 00:19:08,118 Speaker 4: but then he doesn't take days off to hit. He pitches, 399 00:19:08,158 --> 00:19:09,878 Speaker 4: he goes right back into hitting, or he hits. 400 00:19:09,678 --> 00:19:10,198 Speaker 3: The day before. 401 00:19:10,198 --> 00:19:12,838 Speaker 4: When I first got there, there was a tawny rules 402 00:19:12,878 --> 00:19:15,478 Speaker 4: based on he had. You couldn't you couldn't have him 403 00:19:15,518 --> 00:19:17,278 Speaker 4: hit the day before he pitched. He could not hit 404 00:19:17,318 --> 00:19:19,318 Speaker 4: the day that he pitched, and you could not hit 405 00:19:19,318 --> 00:19:21,358 Speaker 4: the day after he pitched. You're losing him three out 406 00:19:21,358 --> 00:19:23,318 Speaker 4: of you know, every six days, you're not You can't 407 00:19:23,318 --> 00:19:25,518 Speaker 4: even play the guy as a pitcher as a hitter, 408 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:29,758 Speaker 4: and I never liked that. But in order to do that, 409 00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:33,478 Speaker 4: he makes it look so easy. He's that strong his 410 00:19:33,878 --> 00:19:36,518 Speaker 4: work ethic, and you're talking about the mind. It's all 411 00:19:36,518 --> 00:19:38,398 Speaker 4: the stuff that he does on the mental side. Of 412 00:19:38,398 --> 00:19:42,198 Speaker 4: things because he's absolutely calm in the moment. The guy's 413 00:19:42,238 --> 00:19:45,558 Speaker 4: never too quick, he's never out of control. He always 414 00:19:45,718 --> 00:19:48,198 Speaker 4: knows exactly what he wants to do, and he runs, 415 00:19:48,238 --> 00:19:50,278 Speaker 4: he runs base. He wants to steal bases on top 416 00:19:50,318 --> 00:19:52,198 Speaker 4: of that. So I mean, I'm going to go from 417 00:19:52,318 --> 00:19:54,958 Speaker 4: ersty all the way to show hey as being some 418 00:19:55,078 --> 00:19:59,198 Speaker 4: really impressive athletes that just went after it right. 419 00:19:59,518 --> 00:19:59,958 Speaker 6: Wow. 420 00:20:00,158 --> 00:20:02,598 Speaker 1: Interesting and Jerry, for me, I'm going to give you 421 00:20:02,638 --> 00:20:04,998 Speaker 1: something and I'm curious if there's a stand up equivalent 422 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:08,878 Speaker 1: to this. Derek Jeter was the most routine oriented person, 423 00:20:08,958 --> 00:20:11,318 Speaker 1: and people in baseball talk about that a lot. This 424 00:20:11,438 --> 00:20:14,158 Speaker 1: season is such a grind. You need a routine. You 425 00:20:14,238 --> 00:20:17,158 Speaker 1: want to keep things as even as possible, right and 426 00:20:17,198 --> 00:20:19,398 Speaker 1: not ride the highs and low so you kind of 427 00:20:19,478 --> 00:20:21,798 Speaker 1: arrange your life in a very routine manner. 428 00:20:23,278 --> 00:20:24,878 Speaker 2: He used an a limited bat in high school. 429 00:20:24,958 --> 00:20:26,998 Speaker 1: Drafted out of high school, they send him to Tampa, 430 00:20:27,038 --> 00:20:30,158 Speaker 1: the Yankees minor League complex. Right after he's drafted, he's 431 00:20:30,158 --> 00:20:32,038 Speaker 1: going to use a wood bat for the first time. 432 00:20:32,198 --> 00:20:35,198 Speaker 1: He goes to this rack of bets and tries to 433 00:20:35,198 --> 00:20:38,158 Speaker 1: find a bat that is most like the metal bat 434 00:20:38,158 --> 00:20:40,798 Speaker 1: he used in high school, he picks it out from 435 00:20:40,798 --> 00:20:43,158 Speaker 1: that day till his last day in the big leagues. 436 00:20:43,278 --> 00:20:44,598 Speaker 2: Derek Jeter never. 437 00:20:44,598 --> 00:20:47,718 Speaker 1: Changed that model of batow. Every one of his three 438 00:20:47,758 --> 00:20:51,438 Speaker 1: thousand plus hits with the same model bet the same 439 00:20:51,558 --> 00:20:56,198 Speaker 1: infielders glove hit off a tee every single day. So 440 00:20:56,558 --> 00:20:59,678 Speaker 1: you've talked a lot, and I really like this comparison 441 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:02,078 Speaker 1: to about the grind of a baseball player and how 442 00:21:02,198 --> 00:21:05,638 Speaker 1: you respect and admire and relate to what it takes. 443 00:21:05,678 --> 00:21:07,438 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a sport where you make 444 00:21:07,478 --> 00:21:11,318 Speaker 1: a mistake, they literally put it in lights on the scoreboard. 445 00:21:11,558 --> 00:21:12,838 Speaker 2: That's an error, right. 446 00:21:13,118 --> 00:21:16,638 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I can tell you there's very few professions. 447 00:21:16,678 --> 00:21:18,878 Speaker 5: I don't know if you can name another profession other 448 00:21:18,958 --> 00:21:21,958 Speaker 5: than mine. When when I make a mistake, it's the 449 00:21:21,998 --> 00:21:26,038 Speaker 5: same thing. The entire room goes silent and everybody knows 450 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:27,718 Speaker 5: that wasn't supposed to happen. 451 00:21:28,038 --> 00:21:28,598 Speaker 2: That's tough. 452 00:21:29,678 --> 00:21:33,518 Speaker 5: Yeah, So comedians are judged, you know, every twelve seconds 453 00:21:34,398 --> 00:21:38,078 Speaker 5: we get a rating, and so you can never not 454 00:21:38,198 --> 00:21:42,478 Speaker 5: be present. Nobody cares about your reputation or your accomplishments. 455 00:21:43,078 --> 00:21:46,118 Speaker 5: They paid seventy five bucks and I want to laugh tonight. 456 00:21:46,798 --> 00:21:47,798 Speaker 6: And that's the job. 457 00:21:48,038 --> 00:21:51,678 Speaker 3: That's why that airline pilot screws you up. Man. That 458 00:21:51,838 --> 00:21:52,478 Speaker 3: was so good. 459 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:53,998 Speaker 6: That was a true story. 460 00:21:54,198 --> 00:21:57,158 Speaker 2: It was yeah, no way, it. 461 00:21:57,158 --> 00:22:00,518 Speaker 3: Was Oh my gosh, that's funny. Yeah, that's funny. 462 00:22:00,718 --> 00:22:01,878 Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry, I got to ask you. 463 00:22:02,038 --> 00:22:05,558 Speaker 1: This is Joe's a great collector of cars as well. 464 00:22:05,598 --> 00:22:07,878 Speaker 1: You talked about the baseball bug and when you got that, 465 00:22:08,478 --> 00:22:11,238 Speaker 1: what about the cars? When did the car bug hit you? 466 00:22:12,198 --> 00:22:13,998 Speaker 5: There was a kid next door to me when I 467 00:22:14,038 --> 00:22:16,518 Speaker 5: was about four years old that had a tractor with 468 00:22:16,598 --> 00:22:19,558 Speaker 5: a steering wheel and pedals, and I used to go 469 00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:22,398 Speaker 5: over and just knock on the door and ask the 470 00:22:22,438 --> 00:22:25,598 Speaker 5: parents could I borrow the tractor. Eventually they went came 471 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:27,758 Speaker 5: to my parents' house and I said, would you please 472 00:22:28,118 --> 00:22:32,318 Speaker 5: buy him one of these so he will stop waking 473 00:22:32,398 --> 00:22:35,518 Speaker 5: us up every morning. So my father he goes, he 474 00:22:35,598 --> 00:22:39,398 Speaker 5: buys one. We had this black and white Plymouth station wagon. 475 00:22:39,438 --> 00:22:42,078 Speaker 5: He pulls into the driveway with the tractor in the 476 00:22:42,118 --> 00:22:44,878 Speaker 5: back of the driveway. He puts the car in park, 477 00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:48,038 Speaker 5: he turns around. I'm on the tractor in the back 478 00:22:48,118 --> 00:22:51,558 Speaker 5: of the station wagon before the car came to a stop. 479 00:22:53,878 --> 00:22:56,318 Speaker 5: So it was I don't know what the hell that is? 480 00:22:56,358 --> 00:22:59,638 Speaker 5: That's a that's just a strand of DNA. I don't 481 00:22:59,678 --> 00:23:00,518 Speaker 5: know what the hell it is. 482 00:23:00,598 --> 00:23:01,558 Speaker 6: I just cars. 483 00:23:01,598 --> 00:23:04,278 Speaker 5: I just I drove with my son yesterday. We took 484 00:23:04,278 --> 00:23:07,198 Speaker 5: two cars out from the city out to the east 485 00:23:07,278 --> 00:23:10,838 Speaker 5: end of Long Island. We spent eleven hours driving just 486 00:23:10,998 --> 00:23:11,798 Speaker 5: for fun of it. 487 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:14,118 Speaker 3: Wow, what did you drive? What did you drive? 488 00:23:14,238 --> 00:23:18,278 Speaker 5: We drove the new Porsche de Car, you know, this 489 00:23:18,518 --> 00:23:20,678 Speaker 5: new off road nine to eleven that they've done. 490 00:23:20,758 --> 00:23:22,118 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, have not seen it. 491 00:23:22,118 --> 00:23:26,918 Speaker 5: It's amazing. And we also drove a GT four RS, 492 00:23:26,958 --> 00:23:30,598 Speaker 5: which is a Porsche came in very track focused car, 493 00:23:30,758 --> 00:23:33,078 Speaker 5: so kind of the opposite ends of the spectrum. One 494 00:23:33,158 --> 00:23:36,198 Speaker 5: is for the dirt and one is for the racetrack. 495 00:23:36,758 --> 00:23:38,598 Speaker 5: And so those were the two cars we drove. 496 00:23:38,998 --> 00:23:41,558 Speaker 4: Seminole Chevy Guy I got in the garage. I got 497 00:23:41,598 --> 00:23:43,598 Speaker 4: a fifty six and a seventy. I got a fifty six. 498 00:23:43,678 --> 00:23:45,918 Speaker 3: Bell are in the seventy two Chevelle right out there 499 00:23:45,958 --> 00:23:47,398 Speaker 3: right now. I love it. 500 00:23:47,438 --> 00:23:49,358 Speaker 6: Seventy two, three ninety six. 501 00:23:49,558 --> 00:23:52,158 Speaker 4: No, it's a three fifty. It's all redone. It's a 502 00:23:52,638 --> 00:23:55,598 Speaker 4: fuel inject it runs great. It's a six speed treming transmission. 503 00:23:56,238 --> 00:23:58,358 Speaker 4: It's a convertible too, and I love it. But the 504 00:23:58,398 --> 00:24:01,838 Speaker 4: fifty six bell Air really goes. I'm getting new tires 505 00:24:01,878 --> 00:24:02,478 Speaker 4: and wheels on it. 506 00:24:02,478 --> 00:24:03,838 Speaker 3: A couple of days. I wanted to. 507 00:24:03,918 --> 00:24:05,478 Speaker 4: I want to make that my daily driver, you know 508 00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:07,758 Speaker 4: what I mean? Why just keep that in the garage 509 00:24:07,758 --> 00:24:10,478 Speaker 4: all the time. This sucker goes. He's got good air conditioning, 510 00:24:10,798 --> 00:24:12,118 Speaker 4: I got a great stereo system. 511 00:24:12,158 --> 00:24:13,038 Speaker 3: I want to drive this thing. 512 00:24:13,158 --> 00:24:13,398 Speaker 6: Yeah. 513 00:24:13,478 --> 00:24:15,198 Speaker 3: So I'm an old Chevy guy. 514 00:24:15,238 --> 00:24:17,158 Speaker 6: The way I look at it, j other, they're putting 515 00:24:17,158 --> 00:24:20,718 Speaker 6: miles on me. Why not put miles on the cut exactly. 516 00:24:21,238 --> 00:24:21,718 Speaker 3: That's right. 517 00:24:33,158 --> 00:24:33,758 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 518 00:24:33,878 --> 00:24:36,478 Speaker 1: It's the Book of Joe Podcast with our special guest 519 00:24:36,758 --> 00:24:40,078 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld. Hey, Jerry, I asked Joe about this all 520 00:24:40,118 --> 00:24:42,638 Speaker 1: the time. Obviously, he loves his cars. He loves the 521 00:24:42,678 --> 00:24:44,838 Speaker 1: roar of the engine, the smell of the gas. I 522 00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:48,518 Speaker 1: do talk about electric cars, though, and I get a 523 00:24:48,518 --> 00:24:49,638 Speaker 1: different vibe from him. 524 00:24:49,798 --> 00:24:50,998 Speaker 2: And I know you're a Porsche guy. 525 00:24:51,358 --> 00:24:54,358 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they've got Porsche does a new car out 526 00:24:54,398 --> 00:24:57,118 Speaker 1: electric vehicle, the take Can is out, which is kind 527 00:24:57,158 --> 00:24:58,918 Speaker 1: of an interesting name in and of itself. 528 00:24:58,958 --> 00:25:03,718 Speaker 2: But would you drive one? Would you drive an electric Porsche? 529 00:25:04,478 --> 00:25:04,678 Speaker 6: No? 530 00:25:04,758 --> 00:25:07,798 Speaker 5: I haven't driven one yet, but maybe someday I will. 531 00:25:07,918 --> 00:25:11,398 Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I'm into the tiny explosions. 532 00:25:11,478 --> 00:25:13,758 Speaker 3: I'm with you, there's no argument. I'm with you hundred percent. 533 00:25:13,958 --> 00:25:16,638 Speaker 5: These cars. You know, you could there's a lot of 534 00:25:16,838 --> 00:25:21,318 Speaker 5: ecological arguments they but that's not the subject of this podcast. 535 00:25:21,638 --> 00:25:24,918 Speaker 5: You could make. You know, a well maintained internal combustion 536 00:25:25,078 --> 00:25:28,678 Speaker 5: car can actually have less impact on the environment than 537 00:25:28,798 --> 00:25:31,758 Speaker 5: the lithium mining that they have to do for these batteries. 538 00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:32,878 Speaker 6: You know, that's a whole other thing. 539 00:25:32,998 --> 00:25:35,598 Speaker 4: Listen, I want to hear my car. I don't want 540 00:25:35,598 --> 00:25:37,158 Speaker 4: to just sit there quietly. I want to hear my 541 00:25:37,718 --> 00:25:40,678 Speaker 4: and I guess right now they're actually, uh do there's 542 00:25:40,718 --> 00:25:42,358 Speaker 4: some kind of an app or whatever they do that 543 00:25:42,438 --> 00:25:45,598 Speaker 4: you there, they as you're driving an electric vehicle, that 544 00:25:45,678 --> 00:25:47,358 Speaker 4: there's a vehicle noise somehow. 545 00:25:47,398 --> 00:25:47,998 Speaker 3: Is that accurate? 546 00:25:48,158 --> 00:25:51,038 Speaker 6: Yeah? They haven't flavorable six dolls too. Now, Joe, I don't. 547 00:25:50,878 --> 00:25:53,918 Speaker 3: Know, I've heard about that. I'll check that out from 548 00:25:53,918 --> 00:25:55,118 Speaker 3: my boxes from. 549 00:25:54,998 --> 00:25:55,758 Speaker 6: The same company. 550 00:25:57,398 --> 00:25:59,198 Speaker 2: And Joe, where do you have your car stored? Our 551 00:25:59,238 --> 00:26:01,118 Speaker 2: audience really should hear the story about this? 552 00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:06,158 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm in PETSIL know, Jerry, I'm in Northeastern PA. 553 00:26:06,278 --> 00:26:08,918 Speaker 4: And I got like nine eight or seven eight nine cars. 554 00:26:08,958 --> 00:26:10,638 Speaker 4: So I need a place to store them. So I 555 00:26:10,678 --> 00:26:14,758 Speaker 4: found a eighteen ninety nine firehouse up in Wookesboro, and 556 00:26:14,798 --> 00:26:18,558 Speaker 4: so it's it's awesome. It's really in great shape. So 557 00:26:18,598 --> 00:26:21,238 Speaker 4: I stored them up there, and there's there's room to 558 00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:24,438 Speaker 4: make this more complete, like upstairs with the old fireman 559 00:26:24,558 --> 00:26:26,118 Speaker 4: used to dress in everything where they used to keep 560 00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:27,438 Speaker 4: the hate for the horses, et cetera. 561 00:26:27,838 --> 00:26:28,838 Speaker 3: But I love going up there. 562 00:26:28,878 --> 00:26:30,638 Speaker 4: I go up there and I got them all stashed away, 563 00:26:30,638 --> 00:26:32,438 Speaker 4: and there he looked them, look at them all at once. 564 00:26:32,478 --> 00:26:36,038 Speaker 4: But it's pretty cool to own an eighteen ninety nine firehouse, 565 00:26:36,438 --> 00:26:38,918 Speaker 4: fire station number five in Wookesboro, Pennsylvania. 566 00:26:39,278 --> 00:26:43,078 Speaker 6: Wow, that is that is great? Love it, Tom. What 567 00:26:43,598 --> 00:26:45,918 Speaker 6: is your hobby besides baseball? 568 00:26:46,878 --> 00:26:50,318 Speaker 1: I like word puzzles, word games, and I love golf. 569 00:26:50,518 --> 00:26:52,598 Speaker 1: Joe and I talked a lot about golf. I love golf. 570 00:26:52,798 --> 00:26:54,238 Speaker 6: Okay, do you play golf? 571 00:26:54,278 --> 00:26:55,798 Speaker 3: Do you played all? Jerry? Do you play golf at all? 572 00:26:55,838 --> 00:26:55,878 Speaker 5: No? 573 00:26:55,998 --> 00:26:58,158 Speaker 6: Do you know my golf joke, Tom? No? 574 00:26:58,238 --> 00:26:58,638 Speaker 2: I don't. 575 00:26:59,078 --> 00:27:01,318 Speaker 6: It stands for get out leave family. 576 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:03,918 Speaker 3: For four plus hours? 577 00:27:04,398 --> 00:27:04,598 Speaker 6: Yeah? 578 00:27:04,798 --> 00:27:07,838 Speaker 1: Right, Well, one of My great accomplishments in life is 579 00:27:07,838 --> 00:27:10,798 Speaker 1: convincing my wife to play golf. Wow, so that's the 580 00:27:10,838 --> 00:27:16,398 Speaker 1: secret to happy golf where you don't feel guilty leaving family. Well, Jerry, 581 00:27:16,398 --> 00:27:18,718 Speaker 1: you had mentioned I think at one point somebody asked 582 00:27:18,758 --> 00:27:22,558 Speaker 1: you about in retirement or you brought up the idea 583 00:27:22,598 --> 00:27:26,638 Speaker 1: that the ideal retirement is watching a baseball game every day. 584 00:27:27,078 --> 00:27:27,638 Speaker 6: Yeah. 585 00:27:27,918 --> 00:27:28,558 Speaker 2: I love that. 586 00:27:28,758 --> 00:27:31,358 Speaker 1: I don't know if you meant that hyperbole or not, 587 00:27:31,478 --> 00:27:33,878 Speaker 1: but it's it's a pretty good way to kick. 588 00:27:33,758 --> 00:27:36,398 Speaker 6: Back people talk about these shows. Did you see this show? 589 00:27:36,438 --> 00:27:36,798 Speaker 6: That show? 590 00:27:36,838 --> 00:27:40,438 Speaker 5: I haven't seen any of the shows. I'm watching W. B. 591 00:27:40,638 --> 00:27:45,478 Speaker 5: Mason commercials and I just feel at peace. There is 592 00:27:45,638 --> 00:27:49,518 Speaker 5: something when the game is on and I'm just sitting 593 00:27:49,558 --> 00:27:56,118 Speaker 5: there there there is a serenity that I feel that 594 00:27:55,638 --> 00:27:57,518 Speaker 5: then that nothing else gives me. 595 00:27:58,118 --> 00:28:01,838 Speaker 3: Serenity now, all right, sendity now? 596 00:28:01,958 --> 00:28:04,958 Speaker 6: Yeah. I love it more and more. 597 00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:08,998 Speaker 5: And you know, it's watching the teams operate, watching the 598 00:28:09,038 --> 00:28:13,278 Speaker 5: players operate, just watching people work at this very difficult 599 00:28:13,678 --> 00:28:19,358 Speaker 5: thing and the frustration and them handling the emotions of it. 600 00:28:19,518 --> 00:28:21,758 Speaker 5: I'm always impressed with these announcers that you know that 601 00:28:21,838 --> 00:28:25,558 Speaker 5: they love the team. Well, you think they do and 602 00:28:25,598 --> 00:28:28,558 Speaker 5: how they don't let the emotion get the better of 603 00:28:28,558 --> 00:28:32,118 Speaker 5: them when things go badly and they just tell you 604 00:28:32,158 --> 00:28:34,558 Speaker 5: it's a Grand Slam and that's the end of that game. 605 00:28:34,638 --> 00:28:39,038 Speaker 5: And they're pretty amazing. The Mets Booth is a fantastic 606 00:28:39,078 --> 00:28:39,798 Speaker 5: group of guys. 607 00:28:40,238 --> 00:28:43,118 Speaker 6: Great Booth, Gary Teeth and Ron. They do a great job. 608 00:28:43,198 --> 00:28:43,718 Speaker 2: Great Booth. 609 00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:46,798 Speaker 1: I don't know if art imitates life, but there was 610 00:28:46,838 --> 00:28:51,038 Speaker 1: a one episode in sidefeld Well where Kramer spoiled the 611 00:28:51,158 --> 00:28:52,678 Speaker 1: ending of a Mets game that you had taped. 612 00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:56,758 Speaker 6: Are you the pilot episode? Yes? 613 00:28:57,278 --> 00:28:58,198 Speaker 2: I love that bit. 614 00:28:58,438 --> 00:29:01,838 Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether you're devoing or DVR or whatever 615 00:29:01,838 --> 00:29:03,878 Speaker 1: it is to gains, but you're I'm assuming watching them live. 616 00:29:04,158 --> 00:29:05,198 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, good. 617 00:29:05,318 --> 00:29:09,278 Speaker 1: I like what Jerry. This has been a real pleasure 618 00:29:09,318 --> 00:29:11,678 Speaker 1: to me. I can tell, and I've known for years 619 00:29:11,718 --> 00:29:15,238 Speaker 1: that you're a true baseball fan, and I think that 620 00:29:15,558 --> 00:29:18,558 Speaker 1: resonates with people. And I love talking to you about 621 00:29:18,558 --> 00:29:20,918 Speaker 1: the game of baseball because I know it's coming from 622 00:29:21,278 --> 00:29:22,478 Speaker 1: such a genuine place. 623 00:29:22,558 --> 00:29:24,998 Speaker 2: So really appreciate you coming on here. 624 00:29:25,318 --> 00:29:26,038 Speaker 6: Thank you, guys. 625 00:29:26,158 --> 00:29:28,318 Speaker 5: The only thing we didn't talk about and I know 626 00:29:28,478 --> 00:29:31,638 Speaker 5: Joe you don't know about this, or Tom you might 627 00:29:31,718 --> 00:29:35,478 Speaker 5: know about it. If you guys saw my ceremonial first 628 00:29:35,558 --> 00:29:41,478 Speaker 5: pitch on July fifth, twenty nineteen, at City Field. 629 00:29:41,598 --> 00:29:46,278 Speaker 3: I did it. I missed it. Strike strike, you saw it. 630 00:29:46,278 --> 00:29:50,158 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful okitch, strike with movements well done. 631 00:29:50,198 --> 00:29:53,558 Speaker 5: It was a perfect strike from the rubber Joe, not 632 00:29:53,718 --> 00:29:56,798 Speaker 5: from the front of the maund from the rubber full 633 00:29:56,878 --> 00:29:58,958 Speaker 5: wind up, sixty five. 634 00:29:58,758 --> 00:30:01,758 Speaker 6: Years old, strike, non athlete category. 635 00:30:02,158 --> 00:30:05,158 Speaker 1: He basically shoved Jacob the Grom out of the way, 636 00:30:05,678 --> 00:30:07,118 Speaker 1: took over the mountain. 637 00:30:07,558 --> 00:30:08,198 Speaker 2: Am I correct? 638 00:30:08,278 --> 00:30:08,638 Speaker 5: Jerry? 639 00:30:08,838 --> 00:30:11,318 Speaker 6: You are correct. He was not happy about. 640 00:30:11,038 --> 00:30:15,238 Speaker 2: That man to do his work. He's getting interrupted. 641 00:30:15,758 --> 00:30:18,318 Speaker 1: But man, that was a I'm telling you, I wish 642 00:30:18,318 --> 00:30:20,398 Speaker 1: they had stat cast on that pitch, Jerry. I'd like 643 00:30:20,438 --> 00:30:22,398 Speaker 1: to know how much that pitch moved and came back 644 00:30:22,438 --> 00:30:23,718 Speaker 1: over the plate perfectly. 645 00:30:24,598 --> 00:30:26,158 Speaker 6: I threw it as hard as I could. 646 00:30:26,798 --> 00:30:28,958 Speaker 5: I didn't really realize this was going to be the 647 00:30:28,998 --> 00:30:34,038 Speaker 5: greatest moment of my life, and it turned out to be. 648 00:30:34,158 --> 00:30:35,878 Speaker 5: And I have a little shrine of it. I wish 649 00:30:35,958 --> 00:30:37,798 Speaker 5: this camera work. I'd show it to you. I have 650 00:30:38,358 --> 00:30:41,638 Speaker 5: some seats from the polo grounds and I've retired the ball, 651 00:30:42,038 --> 00:30:44,278 Speaker 5: the glove, the hat. I was wearing the shirt I 652 00:30:44,438 --> 00:30:49,118 Speaker 5: was wearing. Yeah, I'll never throw another one. And that 653 00:30:49,278 --> 00:30:50,878 Speaker 5: was the peak of it all. 654 00:30:51,278 --> 00:30:51,918 Speaker 2: You know, Jerry. 655 00:30:51,958 --> 00:30:54,358 Speaker 1: I had some friends tell me they thought you were 656 00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:58,758 Speaker 1: left handed, and obviously you're right handed throw I am 657 00:30:58,878 --> 00:30:59,598 Speaker 1: left handed. 658 00:31:00,078 --> 00:31:02,878 Speaker 6: I am left handed, but I throw writing. 659 00:31:03,358 --> 00:31:04,438 Speaker 3: How did that happened? 660 00:31:04,638 --> 00:31:04,958 Speaker 6: Yeah? 661 00:31:05,438 --> 00:31:09,358 Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Well I got to drop this out. I'm 662 00:31:09,358 --> 00:31:12,118 Speaker 1: not sure if you're aware of this kind of coincidence, Jerry. 663 00:31:13,198 --> 00:31:16,158 Speaker 1: The day that you were born, there was another guy 664 00:31:16,238 --> 00:31:19,318 Speaker 1: born in Brooklyn exact same day, by the name of 665 00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:23,678 Speaker 1: Denny Garcia. I don't know if this sounds familiar. 666 00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:23,998 Speaker 6: No. 667 00:31:24,278 --> 00:31:28,518 Speaker 1: He actually became a batboy for the nineteen seventy three 668 00:31:28,518 --> 00:31:32,758 Speaker 1: Mets National League champion nineteen seventy three Mets, and then 669 00:31:33,078 --> 00:31:37,558 Speaker 1: became a Major League outfielder with the nineteen eighty one 670 00:31:37,718 --> 00:31:41,638 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals, and one of his teammates with the 671 00:31:41,758 --> 00:31:43,958 Speaker 1: Royals was Ken Phelps. 672 00:31:46,358 --> 00:31:47,998 Speaker 6: He had a cannon for an arm. 673 00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:51,598 Speaker 2: And it was traded for Jay Buhner. 674 00:31:57,478 --> 00:31:58,958 Speaker 3: Well done, well. 675 00:31:58,718 --> 00:32:02,598 Speaker 2: Done, We're all connected. 676 00:32:02,998 --> 00:32:05,278 Speaker 6: So funny. That's great. 677 00:32:05,678 --> 00:32:07,598 Speaker 2: Well, Jerry, what are you up to these days? 678 00:32:07,638 --> 00:32:09,838 Speaker 1: Just to finish things off, I'm sure there's a lot 679 00:32:09,838 --> 00:32:11,798 Speaker 1: of fans of yours listening here? 680 00:32:11,838 --> 00:32:13,958 Speaker 2: What are you up to? What do you got going on? 681 00:32:14,758 --> 00:32:19,278 Speaker 5: I'll be in Vegas next weekend at Caesar's Palace, and 682 00:32:19,718 --> 00:32:21,598 Speaker 5: I have not changed. 683 00:32:21,638 --> 00:32:24,198 Speaker 6: You talk about you know, we talk about process and. 684 00:32:24,198 --> 00:32:28,758 Speaker 5: Routine, and I am very much that guy. And I 685 00:32:29,318 --> 00:32:31,998 Speaker 5: love doing stand up all over the country, all over 686 00:32:31,998 --> 00:32:34,598 Speaker 5: the world. We just did a tour of Australia. But 687 00:32:35,558 --> 00:32:38,438 Speaker 5: the only show I'm really interested in is the next one, 688 00:32:38,638 --> 00:32:44,038 Speaker 5: and right that'll be in Vegas at Caesar's Palace next week. 689 00:32:44,238 --> 00:32:45,798 Speaker 3: It's beautiful that you're still doing it, man. 690 00:32:45,878 --> 00:32:48,238 Speaker 4: Congratulations and hopefully one of these days I'll be able 691 00:32:48,238 --> 00:32:49,998 Speaker 4: to get a chance to, oh please. 692 00:32:49,838 --> 00:32:51,278 Speaker 3: To be in an audience. I'd love to be able 693 00:32:51,318 --> 00:32:51,638 Speaker 3: to do that. 694 00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:54,118 Speaker 6: Let me know if you're coming job I shall. 695 00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:55,518 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 696 00:32:55,558 --> 00:32:58,758 Speaker 1: Thank you been so much fun Gary. Oh, this has 697 00:32:58,758 --> 00:33:02,038 Speaker 1: been our pleasure. This has been fantastic, and really thanks 698 00:33:02,118 --> 00:33:05,038 Speaker 1: so much. You made this really spec for us. All 699 00:33:05,078 --> 00:33:05,598 Speaker 1: the best to you. 700 00:33:05,958 --> 00:33:09,278 Speaker 5: It's a great show, and congratulations on one hundred episodes. 701 00:33:09,358 --> 00:33:10,598 Speaker 3: See after two hundred buddy. 702 00:33:10,638 --> 00:33:12,598 Speaker 6: Okay, thanks bye, guys. 703 00:33:12,718 --> 00:33:14,958 Speaker 1: Well, Joe, I don't know how you feel, but I 704 00:33:14,998 --> 00:33:18,278 Speaker 1: was excited about this interview with Jerry Seinfeld, and it 705 00:33:18,318 --> 00:33:19,958 Speaker 1: blew away my expectations. 706 00:33:20,038 --> 00:33:21,278 Speaker 2: It was even better. 707 00:33:21,478 --> 00:33:23,318 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, exactly. 708 00:33:24,638 --> 00:33:28,398 Speaker 4: He's so part of our culture today for me personally, 709 00:33:29,598 --> 00:33:31,878 Speaker 4: like I've talked about on a nightly basis, almost he 710 00:33:31,958 --> 00:33:36,678 Speaker 4: did not, obviously did not disappoint. Love his demeanor, the 711 00:33:36,798 --> 00:33:40,278 Speaker 4: cadence with which he spoke, the effort or the thought 712 00:33:40,318 --> 00:33:43,038 Speaker 4: that he put into everything he thinks about. I mean, 713 00:33:43,038 --> 00:33:45,438 Speaker 4: it's it's reflective in his comedy and his show. I 714 00:33:45,438 --> 00:33:47,478 Speaker 4: can't remember he said he was working on a particular 715 00:33:47,558 --> 00:33:50,678 Speaker 4: new thought process, a new a new line of jokes. 716 00:33:50,398 --> 00:33:51,918 Speaker 3: And he was having trouble with it, but he was 717 00:33:51,918 --> 00:33:52,638 Speaker 3: not giving up. 718 00:33:52,958 --> 00:33:55,598 Speaker 4: And I can't remember how many times he mentioned the 719 00:33:55,598 --> 00:34:00,238 Speaker 4: word process during the interview, and that really resonated with me. 720 00:34:00,278 --> 00:34:03,918 Speaker 4: This goes back to my time with Ken rivisa sports psychollege. 721 00:34:04,118 --> 00:34:08,118 Speaker 4: Just Kenny was the best ever and Kenny always talked 722 00:34:08,118 --> 00:34:10,958 Speaker 4: about process. And I think we've done this our whole 723 00:34:10,958 --> 00:34:13,758 Speaker 4: lives without even realize we're going through a process. And 724 00:34:13,798 --> 00:34:16,238 Speaker 4: when our process is good and we stay with our steps, 725 00:34:16,278 --> 00:34:17,358 Speaker 4: and when. 726 00:34:17,198 --> 00:34:19,358 Speaker 3: We're able to do that, you're able to fail and then. 727 00:34:19,238 --> 00:34:21,878 Speaker 4: Come back from your failure because you know where to 728 00:34:21,878 --> 00:34:23,638 Speaker 4: pick it up and how to pick it up because 729 00:34:23,678 --> 00:34:26,238 Speaker 4: you have this method in place. So that was the 730 00:34:26,238 --> 00:34:29,398 Speaker 4: one thing that really impressed me. There's so much there's 731 00:34:29,478 --> 00:34:31,758 Speaker 4: let me talk baseball, you talk about sports, and then 732 00:34:31,758 --> 00:34:34,598 Speaker 4: you to go outside of the industry and you find 733 00:34:34,678 --> 00:34:38,678 Speaker 4: other successful people. The conversation and the method's always pretty 734 00:34:38,718 --> 00:34:41,078 Speaker 4: much always the same. Sounded like an anchor to me. 735 00:34:41,118 --> 00:34:43,918 Speaker 4: It's not like it's something that anchors him and permits 736 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:46,758 Speaker 4: him to maybe have things not go so well, but 737 00:34:46,798 --> 00:34:49,318 Speaker 4: they're going to go well again because I have this 738 00:34:49,398 --> 00:34:51,198 Speaker 4: method in place that's going to bring me back. So 739 00:34:51,358 --> 00:34:54,438 Speaker 4: really impressive man, obviously, and the fact that we're the 740 00:34:54,478 --> 00:34:57,078 Speaker 4: same age, just missing by a couple. 741 00:34:56,958 --> 00:34:58,358 Speaker 3: Months was kind of interesting too. 742 00:34:58,758 --> 00:34:58,958 Speaker 5: Yeah. 743 00:34:58,998 --> 00:35:01,158 Speaker 1: I was so impressed the fact by the fact that 744 00:35:01,358 --> 00:35:04,358 Speaker 1: as successful as he is, one of the giants of 745 00:35:04,398 --> 00:35:07,078 Speaker 1: his business, I think he's got the gift of being 746 00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:10,678 Speaker 1: so approachable, right, I Mean, the highest compliment you can 747 00:35:10,718 --> 00:35:13,398 Speaker 1: give a baseball fan, I think is you want to 748 00:35:13,438 --> 00:35:15,878 Speaker 1: hang out and watch a game with them together, have 749 00:35:15,918 --> 00:35:17,958 Speaker 1: a cold one, and just kick back and enjoy the 750 00:35:17,998 --> 00:35:20,638 Speaker 1: game of baseball. Jerry's that kind of baseball fan. Although 751 00:35:20,638 --> 00:35:23,318 Speaker 1: he once said, you know, he's got a luxury box. 752 00:35:23,398 --> 00:35:25,518 Speaker 1: But he doesn't like it as much when it's filled 753 00:35:25,558 --> 00:35:27,718 Speaker 1: with people, because then you don't get to watch the 754 00:35:27,758 --> 00:35:30,958 Speaker 1: game as much. He doesn't want to talk and chat 755 00:35:31,158 --> 00:35:33,118 Speaker 1: about things other than the game in front of him. 756 00:35:33,558 --> 00:35:36,318 Speaker 1: So someday we'll have to do that. We'll sit with Jerry, 757 00:35:36,438 --> 00:35:39,238 Speaker 1: will promise him that, well, we won't bother, we won't 758 00:35:39,238 --> 00:35:40,718 Speaker 1: distract him from watching the Mets. 759 00:35:40,758 --> 00:35:43,078 Speaker 3: I tell you when I first started go and see. 760 00:35:42,838 --> 00:35:46,918 Speaker 4: Cardinal football games in the eighties and in Tempe when 761 00:35:46,918 --> 00:35:49,878 Speaker 4: the Cardinals first moved there from Saint Louis, I would 762 00:35:49,878 --> 00:35:52,398 Speaker 4: sit in the stands, of course, and I'd have to 763 00:35:52,398 --> 00:35:54,678 Speaker 4: put my headset on because they did not want to 764 00:35:54,678 --> 00:35:57,758 Speaker 4: be distracted by anything. I used to go there early 765 00:35:57,838 --> 00:36:01,598 Speaker 4: to watch the pregame, like Randall Cunningham throwing a football 766 00:36:01,638 --> 00:36:05,078 Speaker 4: to me was unbelievably exciting, and I've talked about Jeff 767 00:36:05,118 --> 00:36:08,278 Speaker 4: George possibly the best physical arm I've ever seen. But 768 00:36:08,318 --> 00:36:10,758 Speaker 4: I did not want to be bothered, so I just 769 00:36:10,758 --> 00:36:12,678 Speaker 4: would lock in. And he's right. I mean, you go 770 00:36:12,718 --> 00:36:16,358 Speaker 4: into the boots and the luxury suites, they're wonderful. Bathroom's 771 00:36:16,398 --> 00:36:19,918 Speaker 4: right there. But really to really bear down on the game, 772 00:36:19,998 --> 00:36:22,158 Speaker 4: is nearly impossible, and that'd be cool. 773 00:36:22,158 --> 00:36:22,318 Speaker 3: Man. 774 00:36:22,478 --> 00:36:24,998 Speaker 4: Listen, if you could swing that, I'm in I'd go 775 00:36:25,118 --> 00:36:26,958 Speaker 4: back just to sit there and watch a game with 776 00:36:27,038 --> 00:36:30,358 Speaker 4: him and converse back and forth. I think that'd be 777 00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:32,758 Speaker 4: kind of both very interesting and very cool. 778 00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:36,558 Speaker 1: Well, that was the most enjoyable episodes one hundred and 779 00:36:36,678 --> 00:36:39,758 Speaker 1: one on one with Jerry Seinfeld and Joe. As you 780 00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:41,758 Speaker 1: always do, it's now time for you to take us 781 00:36:41,798 --> 00:36:44,478 Speaker 1: out with something that fits the theme of the day. 782 00:36:45,038 --> 00:36:46,038 Speaker 2: Episode one on one. 783 00:36:46,518 --> 00:36:50,678 Speaker 4: This came from Winnie again, Winnie Churchill, and it's about failure. 784 00:36:51,238 --> 00:36:54,398 Speaker 4: You may not see all the failure failures your idols 785 00:36:54,398 --> 00:36:56,678 Speaker 4: go through, but you can bet there are a lot 786 00:36:56,718 --> 00:36:56,998 Speaker 4: of them. 787 00:36:57,158 --> 00:36:59,038 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. We always see the finished product. 788 00:36:59,078 --> 00:37:01,358 Speaker 4: You watch the TV show, you watched the Major League 789 00:37:01,358 --> 00:37:05,758 Speaker 4: Baseball Player, listen to Tom Berducci like the Master, like 790 00:37:05,838 --> 00:37:09,078 Speaker 4: so many forms of media, and you think that it's 791 00:37:09,238 --> 00:37:12,758 Speaker 4: always been that way, right, Not true. So the great 792 00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:16,758 Speaker 4: quote from Churchill is success is walking from failure to 793 00:37:16,798 --> 00:37:19,558 Speaker 4: failure and that and then not giving up and then 794 00:37:19,598 --> 00:37:21,318 Speaker 4: eventually coming out the other side. 795 00:37:21,518 --> 00:37:22,918 Speaker 3: So that's true. It's so true. 796 00:37:22,958 --> 00:37:25,598 Speaker 4: And I think sometimes when people you look at a 797 00:37:25,638 --> 00:37:29,038 Speaker 4: guy like Seinfeld and whomever, and you always assume that 798 00:37:29,078 --> 00:37:30,118 Speaker 4: it's always been this way. 799 00:37:30,398 --> 00:37:33,078 Speaker 3: Believe me, not even close to being this way. 800 00:37:33,678 --> 00:37:35,918 Speaker 4: The different steps you have to go through, the amount 801 00:37:35,918 --> 00:37:38,518 Speaker 4: of failure, the amount of rejection, the amount of times 802 00:37:38,558 --> 00:37:40,318 Speaker 4: you've told you're not good enough for now, that's not 803 00:37:40,358 --> 00:37:43,318 Speaker 4: going to work, and still keep fighting through because you 804 00:37:43,398 --> 00:37:46,718 Speaker 4: do have this innate belief system and you have confidence 805 00:37:46,718 --> 00:37:49,678 Speaker 4: in yourself, et cetera. So Churchill had to have it 806 00:37:49,678 --> 00:37:53,198 Speaker 4: as much as anybody during World War Two. But success 807 00:37:53,278 --> 00:37:56,558 Speaker 4: is walking from failure to failure and believing the outcome 808 00:37:56,598 --> 00:37:57,918 Speaker 4: is eventually going to be a good one. 809 00:37:58,158 --> 00:37:59,358 Speaker 2: Well that was so much fun. 810 00:37:59,438 --> 00:38:01,798 Speaker 1: Joe and I realized that when we have someone like 811 00:38:01,918 --> 00:38:05,038 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld on a show like this, I'm sure we 812 00:38:05,118 --> 00:38:08,278 Speaker 1: get some new people in our audience, whether they're just 813 00:38:08,358 --> 00:38:13,158 Speaker 1: Seinfeld groupies or just out up fans who enjoy Jerry 814 00:38:13,158 --> 00:38:14,438 Speaker 1: and want to learn more about him. 815 00:38:14,918 --> 00:38:17,118 Speaker 2: But if you are one of the newbies to the 816 00:38:17,158 --> 00:38:17,958 Speaker 2: Book of Joe. 817 00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:21,558 Speaker 1: Podcasts, stick around because we may not have Jerry Seinfeld 818 00:38:21,598 --> 00:38:23,598 Speaker 1: on every episode, but I guarantee you this is the 819 00:38:23,638 --> 00:38:27,278 Speaker 1: most interesting baseball podcast on the planet. We go in 820 00:38:27,398 --> 00:38:29,878 Speaker 1: directions off the field on the field, a lot of 821 00:38:29,918 --> 00:38:33,038 Speaker 1: the process, mental preparation, teamwork. 822 00:38:33,438 --> 00:38:33,758 Speaker 3: Glue. 823 00:38:33,758 --> 00:38:36,758 Speaker 1: Guys, we can't promise you Jerry Seinfeld every week, but 824 00:38:36,838 --> 00:38:41,398 Speaker 1: we can definitely promise you a very interesting listen every week, 825 00:38:41,718 --> 00:38:44,398 Speaker 1: and this has been one of our more interesting ones. 826 00:38:44,478 --> 00:38:45,598 Speaker 2: Joe, I enjoyed it thoroughly. 827 00:38:45,678 --> 00:38:47,638 Speaker 3: Thank you, totally greed, Buddy, well done. 828 00:38:54,998 --> 00:38:58,238 Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. 829 00:38:58,438 --> 00:39:03,318 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 830 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:05,318 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.