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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Still no update really on Nancy Guthrie for those of

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Speaker 2: you following that case. Pam Bondi is testifying on Capitol

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Speaker 2: Hill about Jeffrey Epstein and Moore. Good news coming out

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Speaker 2: about the US economy. Unemployment rate fell down to four

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Speaker 2: point three percent, over one hundred thousand new jobs created.

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Speaker 1: All of that very positive.

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Speaker 2: It's sent the stock market up again to near record

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Speaker 2: highs and beyond. And we have been talking about all

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Speaker 2: those stories and more throughout the course of the first

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Speaker 2: two hours. But I was reading yesterday buck Rett as

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Speaker 2: well New York Times editorial came out and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: about this whole legalization of marijuana. Basically, we were wrong,

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Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing. The impact of marijuana on society has been

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Speaker 2: far more substantial and we anticipated a stat.

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Speaker 1: In there blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: More people use marijuana daily than use alcohol daily. Alex Barentson,

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Speaker 2: You've been writing about this for quite some time. I

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Speaker 2: just put up a question and I'm curious to see

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Speaker 2: what the answer is. As a lead in for you,

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Speaker 2: I asked, would you rather your kids smoke pot for

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Speaker 2: the rest of their lives as adults or drink alcohol

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Speaker 2: for the rest of their lives. I'll share those results

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Speaker 2: with you here shortly. But Alex, you're a parent if

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Speaker 2: obviously I know a lot of people out there like

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Speaker 2: I don't want my kids to drink and I don't

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Speaker 2: want them to smoke anything. Okay, ideally that would be

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Speaker 2: the case. They live to be one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: and be super healthy. But if you had to choose

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Speaker 2: as a father based on what you know, is alcohol

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Speaker 2: or pot in your mind more of a health concern

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Speaker 2: when it's used regularly.

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Speaker 3: If we're talking about starting as a teenager, I would

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Speaker 3: definitely want them to consume alcohol instead of cannabis because

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Speaker 3: cannabis is much more likely to cause them really severe

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Speaker 3: psychiatric health problems if they start using as a teenager.

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Speaker 2: Okay, starting to cut you off there, but I might

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Speaker 2: explain what you mean by that. Because most people think pot,

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Speaker 2: they think like, you're just kind of a well, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be honest, like a kind of a slacker, not

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Speaker 2: very motivated those things. But there is evidence out there

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Speaker 2: that actually it leads to severe psychological issues explained.

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting because I wrote a book called Tell

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Speaker 3: Your Children About This in twenty nineteen, right, that's seven

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Speaker 3: years ago, and and you know, even at that time,

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Speaker 3: the science was pretty developed on this. It's only become

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Speaker 3: more developed since. And I would say I sort of

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Speaker 3: experienced what it was like to kind of be too

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Speaker 3: far ahead on an issue in that the industry hated me,

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Speaker 3: the legalizers hated me, and nobody either on the left

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Speaker 3: I think I think most people had, you know, the

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Speaker 3: only Yes, there were older people who didn't really like cannabis,

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Speaker 3: but most people, you know, I would say fifty and younger,

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Speaker 3: certainly view things the way you do, Like this is

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Speaker 3: just a you know, this is sort of a light

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Speaker 3: recreational drug that. Yeah, most people, if they get stone,

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Speaker 3: they're just gonna sit on their couch eating doritos. So

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of things. Terms of all that was

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Speaker 3: that cannabis has gotten much much stronger. So what I

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Speaker 3: ten milligrams of THCHC and that was you know, that

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Speaker 3: These days, what's happened is that the industry has cannabis

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Speaker 3: but also since it's become legal, has responded to that

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Speaker 3: It's like you used to drink a beer and all

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Speaker 3: It's a real frankenstanding process to extract this chemical THHC.

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Speaker 3: So when people say this stuff is natural, it's about

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Speaker 3: It's more like a nicotine bape. And so what that

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Speaker 3: up a little bit. Some people really like it. But

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Speaker 3: most people, even if they don't like it much, they'll

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Speaker 3: like a couple of drinks right with Cannabis is very different.

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Speaker 3: Some people do not like the high at all. They

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Speaker 3: find it makes them paranoid, it makes them upset. They

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Speaker 3: people really like this sort of quasi hallucinatory effect it

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Speaker 3: a huge amount of it, and weirdly enough, some of

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Speaker 3: at risk, and unfortunately, if you start using this drug

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Speaker 3: when you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and you become a

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Speaker 3: heavy user of it, your risk of developing a psychotic disorder,

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Speaker 3: usually schizophrenia, is much higher than people realize. And those

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Speaker 3: So schizophrenia is that you know, you hear voices, you

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Speaker 3: get very paranoid. It's something you can't turn on and off.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's not a temporary condition from smoking pot. It's permanent

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Speaker 3: and that RECs people's lives are families and that's what's

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Speaker 3: tell your children was all about. And so the industry

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Speaker 3: obviously hated this, and I think just a lot of

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Speaker 3: people didn't, you know, they reefer madness was what they thought. Oh,

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Speaker 3: this is nonsense, this is not a real thing. This

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Speaker 3: And I think what's happened in the last five years

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Speaker 3: get very badly impacted by cannabis. And in fact, to me,

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Speaker 3: the most the most significant thing that happened in the

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Speaker 3: a conservative commentator, a young woman named Brett Cooper, who

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Speaker 3: you guys may know. I think she's in Nashville, right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: she is. She wrote a post or she posted something

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Speaker 3: probably related to his cannabis use. So that post has

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Speaker 3: happening is that people out there are seeing like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this guy Berenson, he's not like, he's not some anti

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 3: Yes, obviously it's true that most people who use cannabis,

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Speaker 3: even if they use a lot, even if they smoke

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Speaker 3: this is a real risk. It's a dangerous drug. There

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Speaker 3: are other health risks. There are cardiac risks, there's something

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Speaker 3: called cannabinoid hyper emesis syndrome, which most people just call scrammeting,

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Speaker 3: I think even the industry would acknowledge.

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Speaker 5: Could I jump in there to just see if you

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Speaker 5: can give us a sense of the societal cost of

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Speaker 5: when we were at that phase of oh, legalize everything

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Speaker 5: it's going to pay for all the schools. It's going

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Speaker 5: to be so heavily taxed, that'll be a great source

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Speaker 3: There's a ton of weight. And the truth is you

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Speaker 3: will just drive people back to the illicit market. That's

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Speaker 3: what California has found. One of the other amazing things.

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Speaker 3: So the Times writes this editorial and they say, well, basically,

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Speaker 3: what's not going to look like in practice? We're going

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Speaker 3: But the number one issue here is cultural. The number

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Speaker 3: an addictive, dangerous product that a lot of people can't

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Speaker 3: use safely, that does cause car accidents, that does cause violence,

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Speaker 3: And that is the number one thing we got to do.

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Speaker 2: So Alex Buck and I were just talking off air.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of great societies where alcohol is

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Speaker 2: consumed in a substantial level, right, I mean much of

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Speaker 2: human history people have consumed alcohol, and society has advanced

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Speaker 2: the way, fifty eight percent of you say you would

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Speaker 2: Forty two percent of you said you would rather your

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Speaker 2: kids smoke pot. It seems to me again the slacker

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Speaker 2: very much society wide. If we all smoked pot and

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Speaker 2: we all drank alcohol or vice versa, what do you

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Speaker 2: think the impact would be. Obviously, in an ideal world,

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Speaker 2: people would only make healthy decisions and we'd all live

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Speaker 2: to be one hundred and fifty. But obviously there are

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Speaker 2: sins and vices that are going to be consumed. What

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Speaker 2: wand with pot and can you think society wide. Again,

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Speaker 2: lots of cultures that embrace alcohol have had tremendous success.

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Speaker 2: Are there cultures that embrace pot that have gone to

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Speaker 3: So very interesting because usually when cannabis hits a certain

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Speaker 2: And that's why I have said, the women who are

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Speaker 7: That ends up meaning that you're gonna be over the limit,

435
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Speaker 7: You're gonna go out and drive, You're gonna kill somebody,

436
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 7: you smote mor pot. You don't go out and drive,

437
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 7: you fall asleep. So good luck with the rest of

438
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 7: your show. I'm not gonna even bother listening because y'all

439
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 7: are way off from this.

440
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Speaker 1: Here's what I would say.

441
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Speaker 5: First of all, I need this to stop. Oh sorry,

442
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 5: I know, but I need this to stop being Look,

443
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 5: but what about alcohol. We're talking about weed. I'm actually

444
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Speaker 5: not talking about alcohol. This is a cope that people

445
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Speaker 5: have created here. I'm not advocating for against alcohol legal

446
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 5: is I'm talking about marijuana right now, Alex was talking

447
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 5: about marijuana right now. I don't know why people keep

448
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: go ahead, Uh.

449
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Speaker 1: You had an opinion. I don't like.

450
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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna listen to your show anymore. I

451
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 2: mean the pot guy or gal. It doesn't make it

452
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Speaker 2: seem like you're open minded. If your response when the

453
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Speaker 2: data does reflect that pot use has accelerated massively, is

454
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Speaker 2: that a good thing for society?

455
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Speaker 1: I think that's a very valid debate to have. Whatever.

456
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Speaker 5: You're kind of mellow, grateful, dead listening Tyler shirt wearing hippie.

457
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Speaker 1: Are you buddy?

458
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Speaker 3: You know a little friend? So bad?

459
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Speaker 2: Dan Arizona, you're a daily pot user? How long you've

460
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Speaker 2: been using pot? And how would you compare pot today

461
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six to what it was when you

462
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: began using it back in the past.

463
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Speaker 6: Oh, massively different. I would say, daily, on and off.

464
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Speaker 6: I've had periods where I've just stopped and taking it

465
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Speaker 6: up again. But by today's standards, it's you know, I'm

466
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Speaker 6: not arguing whether it should be legal or not, but

467
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 6: it's way more potent. And I definitely agree the psychosis

468
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 6: the it's definitely causing a lot of problems today that

469
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Speaker 6: I don't think you saw even ten years ago.

470
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Speaker 5: Dan, have you ever eaten a two or three pound

471
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Speaker 5: bag of jelly beans in one sitting as a result

472
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Speaker 5: of your marijuana smoking?

473
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Speaker 6: Oh? Man, not in a while, but yeah, back in

474
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Speaker 6: the day. I think because the amount, I think there's

475
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Speaker 6: different substances in it that can cause you know, hunger

476
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Speaker 6: cravings or whatnot. Not so much today, but you know, say,

477
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Speaker 6: I used to use those. Those are the VPE cartridges

478
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Speaker 6: you guys were talking about, And if friend pointed out,

479
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 6: they said, dude, have you seen how much TFC's actually

480
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 6: in those? And I looked and it was like ninety

481
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Speaker 6: two percent?

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I said wow wow.

483
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Speaker 5: So we talked about this in the context. Thank you

484
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Speaker 5: so much, Dan for the stude observations and the intelligent call.

485
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: I would say, by the I'm also gonna admit this

487
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 5: before people will call in. I know people who are

488
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 5: wildly financially successful who smoke weed all the time. Personally,

489
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 5: I know some. So I understand that there are people

490
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: that are able to do this and operate at a

491
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 5: very high level and they don't have schizophrenia. And okay, fine,

492
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 5: we are talking about what is true or most true

493
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: in the aggregate and what society should be encouraging.

494
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Speaker 6: Right.

495
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Speaker 5: You know, there are some people who make it into

496
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 5: like the very top ranks of professional sports and get

497
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 5: to live in, you know, big mansions and marry supermodels.

498
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: It's not a good idea to tell most kids don't

499
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: learn how to read. You're going to become a professional athlete. Right,

500
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: You have to know what is true in the in

501
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: the main true for the most part when you're making

502
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Speaker 5: these kinds of decisions about society and policy.

503
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna I think that's a hundred percent true,

504
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: Producer Ali just said, I believe this was in the editorial,

505
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: and it also ties in with the call we just had.

506
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Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety five, when the DEA seized pot, THHC

507
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: in the pot was about four percent. That is the

508
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: hallucinogenic car aspect. Today it's ninety percent or more. So

509
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: you're talking about twenty times as potent pot today as

510
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: back in the nineteen nineties when many people were first

511
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: starting to smoke pot.

512
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

513
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 5: I don't know if we talk about this on the

514
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: show or off air, So sometimes I forget Clay when

515
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: we're having our off air versus you know, on the

516
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 5: air for everybody. But I do remember in like early

517
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 5: in college, people would pull out the Bacardi one fifty

518
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 5: one and that was it was like, hey guys, we're

519
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: at the shooting range and now somebody's bringing out a

520
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 5: missile launcher. It was like, whoa the Bacardi won fifty one.

521
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 5: Now why was that such a thing? Because it was

522
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty one proof, right, so it was

523
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: a very very high absolutely like you could take the

524
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 5: paint off the car man. I mean, it's not something

525
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: that's fun to drink, but people kind of drink it

526
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: as like almost like a party dripping. I'm drinking my

527
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 5: Bacarty one five one. And there's some overproof RUMs and

528
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 5: things out there where you do this. But you know,

529
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: when you're talking about hard liquor and then you're talking

530
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: about something that's one hundred and fifty one proof and

531
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Speaker 5: you're comparing that to beer, which is like eight percent

532
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: alcohol or something.

533
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I think a lot of white beer is like four

534
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Speaker 1: and a half percent.

535
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 8: Four.

536
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

537
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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what my favorite zeema is,

538
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: but that's probably up there too. You know, these are things,

539
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: These are the dosage makes the poison is a common

540
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 5: phrase that you'll hear in medicine. The dosage makes the poison.

541
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 5: It's absolutely true about the THHD in marijuana situation right now,

542
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 5: Absolutely true. And people say, oh, we should just have

543
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: a certain amount, then well a lot of people are

544
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: gonna want the higher amount. And then you're gonna and

545
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: you know, you get into this, how are you gonna

546
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 5: regulate that? And who's gonna be take doing these purity tests?

547
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: And it's it is a weed. It is easy to grow.

548
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: I might even have known some people who have grown

549
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: their own weed, for example. It's not that hard to do,

550
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: so Clay, you know. I I think that we've I

551
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: think people have been sold a bill of goods on

552
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: how this is for society, how much this is going

553
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: to benefit people, how safe this is. I don't think

554
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: it's as safe ast me. And again I'm not saying

555
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: it should be locked up for this stuff right now.

556
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I don't think it's as safe as

557
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: people have been told. I think it's had a much

558
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 5: higher social cost than people realize. And I think we

559
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: need to have a much more honest conversation based on

560
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: the realities of legalization than we've had in the last decade.

561
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: I think a lot of parents, and I'm a parent,

562
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: have been convinced that their kids smoking pod is not

563
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 5: a big deal. And I think when you look at

564
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: the levels of THC that modern marijuana has, I think

565
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: you need to be more concerned about it than you are.

566
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Dan, And Pennsylvania has got a story for us.

567
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: Dan, You've got a kid they got addicted to pot.

568
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, guys, appreciate you taking the call. My

569
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: wife and I were fifty seven year old parents, got

570
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: a twenty eight year old son. My boyfriend. We both

571
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: spoke to a weed back in the day, and I

572
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: think we both saw that it wasn't any much different

573
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: than alcohol, our some sort of smoking as a senior

574
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: in high school. He went to college and he's you

575
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: he talk to him now, he'd say, smoked it for

576
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: anxiety and to help the depression. But you don't realize

577
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: it exacerbats those symptoms, and he went into a slowed

578
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: down he'll spiral. It took us a few years and

579
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: some therapy to figure out where he was at. He

580
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: ended up in rehab. I mean, he's he's a full

581
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: blown addict. All the classic symptoms of addiction. It controlled

582
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: every aspect of his life. It almost destroyed his life

583
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: and our whole family. Fortunately he's turned it around now

584
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: he's doing very well. But he'll tell you most of

585
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: his friends are chronic who are chronic weed users. They're addicted.

586
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: It controls every aspect of their life too, and it's

587
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: just the problem. I don't think anybody has any realization

588
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: how bad this is.

589
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Speaker 1: HI, thank you for the call.

590
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Speaker 2: Look, I am a moderation guy in general. My perspective

591
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: is the key to life in many respects is moderation.

592
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: You can't drink every day, you can't smoke every day,

593
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: and so that's my I gamble, you know, it can't

594
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: gamble all the time. Right, There are certain people that

595
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: have susceptibility to addiction, and I think there is a

596
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: danger and addiction to pot that did not exist in

597
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety.

598
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Five based on the.

599
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: Significant quantities of THHC that are in a product today.

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Speaker 5: If somebody was drinking eight ounces of alcohol that was

601
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: four that was four percent, sorry, eight ounces of an

602
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: alcoholic beverage that was four percent alcohol growing up, and

603
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: now they're drinking eight ounces of a beverage that is

604
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: ninety percent pure alcohol. That is a massive, massive difference

605
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 5: that will manifest in the health and psychological effects of

606
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 5: that drug. I don't know why anyone thinks the THHD

607
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: situation is different. That's the part of this that I

608
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: am really feel like there's real clarity on here.

609
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: Everyone.

610
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: It's a this is not your daddy and Mommy's weed.

611
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 5: This is a different situation now and then we'd even

612
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: talk about this. How a lot of this stuff too.

613
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: Sometimes it gets laced with fentanyl and other things.

614
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: That's scared.

615
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: Now you're actually talking about straight up mortal health risk

616
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: from that. Now, I understand that's like people being poisoned,

617
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: but that does happen too, So there's real concerns with this.

618
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: All right, I'll be back here with all of you.

619
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: We'll I'll be back with you in just a second.

620
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: And it will continue to take the incoming on this

621
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 5: when Clay, when the bunker together, will blow the whistle

622
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: when it's safe to go outside, because we got incoming

623
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Speaker 5: all over the place, my friends, boom, boom. All right,

624
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 5: today's pictures and videos are on our cell phones. Wasn't

625
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: always the way, though. I grew up with a dad

626
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Speaker 5: who had a VHS camera in his hand at a

627
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Speaker 5: lot of family events, Christmas, school plays, all of that.

628
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Speaker 5: And you know, I've got a little son now, and

629
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Speaker 5: I want him to be able to enjoy those memories

630
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Speaker 5: and see his grandparents and see his great grandparents on

631
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Speaker 5: those VHS tapes.

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Speaker 1: Some Almond Brothers. Am I getting that right?

648
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Speaker 3: Is that read?

649
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Speaker 2: The pots play has no idea what is it's for

650
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Speaker 2: the potsmokers out there, I presume I was gonna.

651
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Speaker 5: I thought, you know, I was like, maybe we can

652
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Speaker 5: get them some I don't know. Is a chunky monkey

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Speaker 5: ice cream? That was the big popular one from uh those?

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Speaker 5: Ben and Jerry's right, is that the That's what one

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Speaker 5: of the That's one of the well known ones. There

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Speaker 5: are some very good ones of the ice creams. Some

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Speaker 5: people say the most delicious thing ice cream. I think

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Speaker 5: that would be my if I did have the munchies,

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Speaker 5: which I haven't smoked weed and oh my gosh, going

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Speaker 5: on thirty years now. So if I did get the monchies, though, Clay,

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Speaker 5: I think Reese's pieces, just like at Halloween, that would

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Speaker 5: be my weakness.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about those. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they put in them.

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Speaker 5: Orese's pieces are like the perfect candy and you can

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Speaker 5: just eat so many of them with a cold glass

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Speaker 5: of milk. I'm giving myself monchies just talking about it.

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Speaker 5: Uh would be top number one? Yes, yes, Peanu and

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Speaker 5: M and M's too. I mean, if you're also if

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Speaker 5: you're looking to put on some weight, let me tell

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Speaker 5: you a couple of things. You peanut M and m's great.

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Speaker 5: It's a fat and a sugar high, high calorie and

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Speaker 5: they're delicious. You can eat tons of them. Also, if

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Speaker 5: you just melt some ice cream down and kind of

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Speaker 5: drink it like a slurry, you can put away a

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Speaker 5: thousand calories and one hundred grams of sugar and no time.

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Speaker 5: So not that I'm commending that, I'm just saying for

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Speaker 5: a movie role, if you want to put on weight,

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Speaker 5: you could do that. There is there's a lot of calls,

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Speaker 5: a lot of things you have to get to, and

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Speaker 5: I just I don't usually do the celebrities passed away thing,

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Speaker 5: but James Vanderbeek just passed away Dawson of Dawson's Creek,

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Speaker 5: who was apparently a really good dude actually, you know,

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Speaker 5: like outside of his movie roles, it was just like

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Speaker 5: a good dude.

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Speaker 1: So that's very sad. Only Yeah, six kids, six kids.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you remember Varsity Blues, one of

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Speaker 2: the all time great football movies ever made. He was

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Speaker 2: Johnny Moxon in that movie, which is still a great watch.

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Speaker 5: And do you feel like that was kind of a

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Speaker 5: Friday Night lights rip off?

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Speaker 1: In some way even though it was a good movie,

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Or no, it was before Friday Night

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Speaker 1: Lights really took one. No, I mean the book.

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Speaker 2: The book was out maybe a little bit. I think

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Speaker 2: it was more juvenile than Friday Night Lights. Like Bud

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Speaker 2: Buzz Bissinger's Friday Night Lights book is actually a beautiful,

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Speaker 2: you know, sort of reverie of high school football and

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Speaker 2: its impact on Texas. This was just like a really

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Speaker 2: fun teenage high school football movie mixed together.

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Speaker 5: It was the beginning for many of us of that

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Speaker 5: generation of celebrating Ali Larder's whole catalog whipped.

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Speaker 2: Cream bikini one of the great all time scenes in

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Speaker 2: sports movie history, I have to say. And now she's

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Speaker 2: in landman and evidently kills it there. All right, we

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Speaker 2: will take a ton of your talkbacks and your emails tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Remember you're all mad at Buck, make sure you address

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Speaker 2: all of the anger to him. I'll be back with

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow, speaking truth and having fun. Clay Travis and

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton