1 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Rough with John Mellencamp's daughter Teddy and. 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a famous dad. My name is Erica Jane. 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: How are you, by the way, tired today? A little tired? 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but good. 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: You know, well, we have a big weekend coming up. 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: So excited. 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a big weekend coming quinn. 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go. Season nineteen, episode nine, Emily and Gretchen 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: meet for a testosterone shot appointment. I got my hormones 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: two days ago, and it hurts sitting here, so. 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: You couldn't play volleyball. 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: No, not for a couple of days. It hurts. Emily 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and Gretchen hope that Katie is gone for good. After 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: the party, and Emily noticed Tamra and Gretchen hugging at 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: the party. Gretchen tells Emily that Tamra had thanked her 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: forgetting the truth from Kiki, and Emily thinks Gretchen and 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Tama need to talk at the beach. What do you 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: think I think that. 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Gretchen and Tarmra talking at this point. I know, like 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I was like, you know what, 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I want them to squash the beef. But now that 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: I've like been more in this, like Gretchen rabbit hole. 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: So Gretchen blames Tamra for the reason why Slade hasn't 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: worked in ten years. But then, like I googled Slade. 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me pull this up. 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, she did say that he had lost work because 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: of the bad things that tamar had said. And if 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: you just google it you could see. 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: But I mean I googled it. 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: And but what did he do before he came on 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: the show? 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't he was on the show. He's been on 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: the show multiple times. Yeah, but what was his different woman? 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Okay, but okay, but what is his what is his 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: line of income? Like what does he do for a living? 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, because his first season, the first season 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: of Real Housewives Orange County, I think he worked in 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: was it a banking office. 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: Or real estate or it's a real estate or something. 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: Something like I don't even remember. But it says Slade Smiley, 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: who earned his fifteen minutes of fame on a reality show, 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: The Real Housewives Orange County, was arrested on a warrant 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: on Friday. Smiley thirty eight. I mean, this is obviously 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: so Old was arrested by Coasta Mason Police and the 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: twenty four hundred block of Eldon Avenue at about three pm. Smiley, 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: who starred with his ex girlfriend and the Bravo show 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: Date My Ex Joe and Slade, was later booked in 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the County jail not paying child support. Oh yeah, so, 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's out there on the world wide web. 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: I don't think it had anything to do with Tamera. Well, 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to have tamers back, but. 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: I think, look, I don't think you're unemployable if you 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: go on one of these shows. I think that going 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: on a show, any reality show, you're up for extra scrutiny. 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: And let's be honest, it's not you know. 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: And if you're not paying your child support, it's going 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: to come out publicly. 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's how you get in trouble. Yeah, 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: so alterly adds fuel to the fire. But I don't 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: think it's because of the show that you know you're 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: not working. 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah then Jen and well so either way, that's the 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: backstory there. So it kind of for me when it 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: comes to Gretchen, I'm like, this is fifty old. Like 66 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: I will say, oh, it's just too old. 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: It's old and so old when no one cares anymore. 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: No one cares a slade get a new job. 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: Or get a job. But it's not you know, and 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm not being shady to slay, it's just if this 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: is what's going on, you know, Yeah, I. 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Mean, this is years and years ago, and this is 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: what they're holding on to. 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: And I'm not judging. Believe me, I have no room 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: to judge. But you know, you can get a job 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: if that's the case. We can all get to get jumps. 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Because that's but in my opinion, that's why he's so 78 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: invested in this whole story. 79 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: I think he's been invested in the Housewives franchise, like 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: you said, with multiple women for a very long time. 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: And so it's not just this. 82 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: I mean even when you flashback to one of the 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: reunions Andy, Andy, when he's like and he's like, well, 84 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: I mean you wouldn't be coming back because Joe's not on, 85 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: and he's like, well, I mean I'm the one that 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: chose not to come back, and he's like no, actually 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: yeah no. 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: The men, and I've always said this, the men are 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: the accessory to the women. This is a show about 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: women and their relationships, rupture and repair and forgiveness, in 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: moving and friendship. Men are simply ornaments here, and that's 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: the way these shows are set up. Yeah, it's a 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: it's a girl's world. 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: I can't say this. Katie did admit to a lot 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: of things, like it was a pretty big deal that 96 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: yesterday she admitted she talked to the Bravo babe. 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: Okay, remember, well you're getting somewhere. 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got somewhere. So she admitted that I 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: have no idea what she what her conversation with Kiki 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: Monique was, But I don't I find it very shocking 101 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: that Kiki Monique, after all of these years, just found 102 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: out this story. 103 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: So you think she's known about it? 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've known about it, Oh you have Yeah? Oh, 105 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: I think anybody that has any sort of eyes that 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: can read gossip and stuff like that. 107 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Knew about the Gretchen situation. 108 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, knew about the Gretchen situation. Not to mention it 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: was on the show that Naked Wasted. Yeah, and then 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: it came out all over the Internet and all over 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: the what can we say, blogger. 112 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Sites or Instagram moments. 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: Instagram stories, it's I mean. 114 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Did you see someone gave us shit for talking about this? 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: You do our bloggers. I was like, I'm not a blogger. 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm fine to be a blogger. Just call me a blogger, 117 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: but I can't type, Well, don't. 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm actually on this show, Like I I don't know. 119 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm certainly not going to call myself a journalist. That 121 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: gets thrown around. 122 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: That us our journalistic. 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: We're over here gossiping on the fucking internet. 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so whatever, whatever, whatever you want to call it. 125 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: Then Jen and Katie meet for coffee. 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Katie brought receipts with her and she shows her that 127 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: remember the lie detector guy? 128 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Ah? 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: Is it actually paid actors? And she thinks that it 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: was set up by Gina and Emily. I mean, I 131 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, you're supposed to ask the questions. 132 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: I know, when the vander Pump thing broke out, we 133 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: didn't get to ask the questions. They were prepared for her. 134 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't ask the questions. We didn't even know 135 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: what happened or was said until after the fact. 136 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, paid actors, like we brought this up earlier. 137 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Looks a little like, is this guy the only guy 138 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: in town that we go to light detectors for? And 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: they're not a perfect science. E've been under the best 140 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: conditions with the best polygraphers ever. 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think that whether or not 142 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Katie is the one that told Kiki, I think Katie 143 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: did answer honestly when she said I heard the story 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: at dinner with Gretchen and Jen and everybody like this 145 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: and Jen is now she's driving me nuts. 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not liking Jen right now. And you didn't 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: like her the last time we sat down because you said, 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: why is Katie getting all the heat? Meanwhile, Jim was 149 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: there too, and. 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Jen even on the after show the other day. She goes, just, 151 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: I know, I'm flip flopping around about stories, but it's 152 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: just to show that this is a repetitive action. She goes, uh, well, 153 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, who is Joe anyway? And it's like, one, 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you know exactly who Joe is because you had a 155 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: problem with Joe being at Heather's party. 156 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 157 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Two, you know who Joe is because you've talked about 158 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: her multiple times, and three and she was your engagement party. 159 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: And three you know who Joe is because you watched 160 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: the show. 161 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have been a fan. 162 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, let's not that's who Joe. 163 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: Is, So don't let's not keep that's what bugs me. 164 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Just stop attending that you don't know anything she is. 165 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: But I told I mean, I told Katie yesterday. I'm like, 166 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Jenna is no friend to you. 167 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: She isn't well, okay, so I don't know. I will 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: say this. You have to like say what you mean, 169 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: to mean what you say. It's interesting to me that 170 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: you found Katie reasonable. Yeah, but I didn't think you 171 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: were going to. 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: I thought that I was gonna come on. I mean, granted, 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: there are parts of her that. 174 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: I said reasonable, I didn't say fabulous. 175 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are parts of her that she pauses when 176 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: she answers. But I think there's a lot of like 177 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: fear and anxiety she carries, and so she doesn't have 178 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: that like gumption when she comes forward and says something. 179 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: But I I didn't. I wasn't like, I was like 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: I could hang around this person. 181 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm stunned. 182 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: I know. I think you could have too. 183 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: Don't speak for me. I can't hang around those bitches. 184 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: I was with it last night, and I get paid 185 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: to do that. 186 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. But I feel like jenn is trying 187 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: to give this Like remember when Jessica Simpson was like, is. 188 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: Chicken out the sea? Is a fish? Are we getting 189 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: done blonde? 190 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? 191 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean this is what I don't like. 192 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't like it when the husband's and I realize that, 193 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: you know, I see Katie's husband giving interviews and shit 194 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: like that, like slathe all these meant ryan to involved, 195 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: to involved. This is this is a woman's show. Let 196 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: them carry their own weight, let them have their own fights, 197 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: let them do their own thing, you know, texting me 198 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: nine to one one, like is that even a thing? Like? 199 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: What is this? Nine one one? If you call me 200 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: nine one one, you better be dead. 201 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: But the amount of times those two men talked. 202 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Right like it they want the orange, I mean, they 203 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: want to hold the orange. At this point, they might 204 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: as well take one because and they should just yeah, 205 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: you might as well. They're doing a better job than 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes the husband's slash boyfriends do better jobs than the women. 207 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: And it's clear that Slade and Katie's husband Matt. 208 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't find it. I find it shocking 209 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen a conversation between Jen and Ryan 210 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: talking about how Gretchen told them these things, because I 211 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: don't think Ryan would lie. Ryan would have been like, 212 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: well he did, they did tell us. 213 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: Maybe see now you're turning out to like Ryan. Okay, 214 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: look at that, Ryan, are you listening? 215 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Don't as Derek would say, don't speak for. 216 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: Me right exactly, But it seems as if you would 217 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: put more weight on what Ryan said as opposed to 218 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: the other two. 219 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: And as opposed to Jen. Yeah, because I think Jenna's 220 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: just trying to navigate happy she's not there. I mean 221 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: because truthfully, if I thought that you were lying to 222 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: me and I and we were true friends, as close 223 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: to friends as they said that they were, you know, 224 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: they shared all these things about their life. 225 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: Dumb idea by the way, then wouldn't. 226 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: You say, like, have a little bit of like I 227 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: don't believe you, and I need to understand why I 228 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: don't why I don't write. 229 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: You need to explain this to me. 230 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: So I explained this to me. But I don't think 231 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: she can say that because she knows good and well 232 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: she was at that dinner. Yeah, and unless she had 233 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: earplugs in but whatever, Well. 234 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: It just feels like a whole thing too, And then 235 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: Matt was saying, they're trying to take Tamra down. What 236 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: do you all of a sudden like Tamra. Yeah, I 237 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: swear to god, it was a design to take Tamra down. 238 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: You like Tamra. I thought Tamar was the devil like 239 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: two weeks ago. It's I know, I'm just a little 240 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: it's a bad day, you know. 241 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: No, it was a bad To be honest, this episode 242 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: bugged me. Well, I mean as much as a croissant 243 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: at the beach would have bugged me. 244 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: The receipts. We know this and we know Okay, so 245 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Katie knows that Jen her Gretchen say she went to 246 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: the hospital. Katie said she would die on that. What 247 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: did she say yesterday? 248 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: She said this same thing. She said, I told Monique 249 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: things about me, but I did not tell her that 250 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: bit of information. 251 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Why and Katie, why are you telling Kiki Monique anything 252 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: about you? 253 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Because she talks to people. She admitted to talking to 254 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: the Bravo babe. 255 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: This is not a good idea. Guys. Yeah, don't talk to. 256 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Anybody, don't go to lunches, don't talk about. 257 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: Talk, don't talk about the show. You get this is 258 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: how this is. 259 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: How we get where we are right now? 260 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Gina shows up to Matt and Britt's house. Uh. 261 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Britt is Gina's ex husband's wife, and Gina has a 262 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: great relationship with her. And Matt had a heart attack 263 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: last week, and Gina tells Britt that she saved Matt's life, 264 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: which I find this wonderful, And I was confused for 265 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: a second. I'm not gonna lie. 266 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Well, I thought this might be an audition for Britt 267 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: Britt to join the cast. 268 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: Well maybe, right, So who's getting the axe? Oh? 269 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: Who do you think would get the ax? No? 270 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: You know more about their shit that I I don't. 271 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: Know, but I think they need something else. They need 272 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: somebody else. So all the women are now a lot 273 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: of a lot, don't say all the women. A couple 274 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: of women have said they refuse to go back and 275 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: film if Katie is still on the show. But yet 276 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Katie's going to be at the reunion. 277 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that you have to do that. 278 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do that. 279 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: I have to do that. 280 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Then they're not I don't, like Gina said publicly, I'm 281 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: not going back to the show if Katie comes back. 282 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's see's how that plays out. 283 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see how that goes for you. 284 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Let's see how that goes. 285 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: But it is sad that Matt had a heart attack. 286 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on. He's a young man, He's a 287 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: young man. 288 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Well, Gina said that he needs to start taking care 289 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: of himself. 290 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: What is Brit saying? 291 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: Britt didn't really say anything like that. Britt was just 292 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of there. 293 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: And being supportive. I like it that Gina's friends with 294 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: her ex husband and his new wife. 295 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it shows it's a very. 296 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: Modern way of like taking care of things and listen, 297 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: if you can move on and be peaceful, fabulous. 298 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, better for the kids, It's better for everybody, 299 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: especially with how dramatic their past was. So that must 300 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: mean Birth's a pretty good person. 301 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Rit seems like she's very understanding, to say the least. 302 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Uh. Then Jen, Tamer, and Heather meet 303 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: up for lunch. Jen tells them that Katie thinks it 304 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: was all a setup. Jen, I wish the setup thing. 305 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't like, the whole shows is set up. You're 306 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: fool part of this are You've just coming to realize 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: the whole fucking thing is. 308 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: This is a setup. Let me give you the. 309 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you something. 310 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: This show is set up. Jen and Tamra talked through 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: some of their issues. Tamar tells Jen that things don't 312 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: get deep unless you really care about someone, and Tamara 313 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: really does care about Jen. 314 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's your friend. 315 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I haven't talked to her about this. I 316 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: don't know that she knows that I'm about to be 317 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: going and hard for Gen thinking Jen's pretending all over 318 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the place. 319 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's a conversation. I can't wait to see the 320 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: two of you have you know, that's that's deep. 321 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: Jen says she wants to move forward, and then Heather 322 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,239 Speaker 1: takes a selfie with Jen and Tamor in the back. 323 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Which is hilarious because even tamer noses, I mean even 324 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Heather noses, yeah, it's leading the best. 325 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we love to get resolution and movement on Housewives, 326 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: but like, do we think this is that? 327 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: No? Not really, No, I. 328 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: Didn't think it. You didn't think it for a second. 329 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 330 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: No. Then Emily, Gina and Shannon are shopping. Emily tells 331 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: them about her call with Jen. 332 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 333 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: Jen told her that Katie thinks, guess what a setup. 334 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: It's just I guess setup. I mean, the only part 335 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: from this scene that I was paying attention to is Emily. 336 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: The only the only part for me is Emily and 337 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: this child, and I am just I'm and I'm calling 338 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: heart goes out to her because you know, I know, 339 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: and then she's having problems with Shane and just sucks. 340 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: They're just trying to get through it, and I think 341 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: she's probably even more emotional about it than she's even 342 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: able to let on. 343 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: She's really trying to keep it together that they are 344 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: as a family, you know how it is? Yeah, I mean, 345 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: and you guys, when you do one of these shows, 346 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: and yes it's about your life, but there's you're still 347 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: trying to put your best foot forward and not fall apart. 348 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 2: And I know Emily's in a lot of pain, and 349 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: I just feel badly for her. 350 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: That sucks so bad, I know, And I hope they 351 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: haven't they get something. 352 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 2: They get some answers, me too, I hope they get 353 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: So if anybody's listening and it's got some answers, yeah, 354 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: good or good referral, Yeah, please reach to reach out 355 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: to her. 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Katie and her husband Matt talk. Matt shows the amount 357 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: of calls he had with. 358 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: Slaves again, Orange Holders. 359 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Orange Holders, Katie saying slave job for ten years is 360 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: being Gretchen's bitch. Is the energy she needs to bring 361 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: to the reunion, Like that's what we need from her. 362 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's where we're going, that's where you need 363 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: to stay. Yeah. 364 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean even yesterday when she took the picture of us, 365 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: she wrote, just guys, I talked to a blogger and 366 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: it was me picture of her, Like, that's what I 367 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: want from her, Like she's got a little like, yeah, 368 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: she's got a little fire. She just needs to be 369 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: able to bring it with the other women. But I 370 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: think she Something else that she said was, you know, 371 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: she was like I was adopted. I had a lot 372 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: of feelings of wanting to be liked. I'm a people pleaser, 373 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I you know, I want all these things. So I 374 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: think that she really is stuck. She said she cried 375 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks about her relationship with Jen. 376 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: Here. Here, here's what I don't know, Katie. But I 377 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: do understand like wanting to be liked in a group 378 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: of women. No I don't. 379 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: I was like, you what, well. 380 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: I don't, But I understand how it could feel like that, 381 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: and I do understand needing to have some sort of 382 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: friendship with someone in here, and there isn't one, and 383 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: there's not one. They've viced her out and look for 384 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: a good reason, like I'm not gonna sit over here 385 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: like I but. 386 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: No, what else I didn't really realize what? So you 387 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: know how they said that Katie sent the video to Alexis. 388 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes, no, she just told her the story, same thing, 389 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: but still beat, it's still the same, still bad, it's 390 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: not the same. I mean, look, it's not not good. 391 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: It's not good. 392 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: It's not good. You don't get a pass. 393 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: You don't get a pass. 394 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: Don't do not get a pass because you shouldn't be 395 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: doing that anyway. And you know the video. You should 396 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: not be videoing anybody anyway, shouldn't be talking about that 397 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: two people. Certain things you just don't do. 398 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: But it did seem more malicious to me when I 399 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: thought she sent that video. 400 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I thought that. Even that's even more weight on it. Yeah, 401 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: I'm glad she didn't send it, but you still don't 402 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: need to be taking the video, sending it to your husband, 403 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: or talking about it to anybody. You see the trouble 404 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: it got you in don't do it. 405 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Then the girls show up for Jin's 406 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: beach day, Tamra brings Joe. 407 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Geez. Was that a setup? Was all these setups? 408 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: But like, come on, Gretchen, why do you even care 409 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: about Joe? I'm I'm gonna try to look through this. 410 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: Did Joe say anything? 411 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: I thought she was reasonable. 412 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Joe. 413 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe was cool. 414 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: She was just the show up. She showed up, just 415 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: like the couple other gals. We didn't hear say any words. 416 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: No, it's fine, Yeah, it. 417 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Is what it is. 418 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: What is good news Friday? Is it like good Friday 419 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: like before Easter? 420 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: No? I think they were just trying to have come 421 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: up with one of those stupid games. It's like, so 422 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: it was good News Friday. Half the girls don't play 423 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: maybe shon. I love that. 424 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: Jen's son was out there doing it. He seems to 425 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: be a really sweet kid. 426 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: No. I liked all two right, Yeah, I liked him. 427 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems sweet, and you know, he was showing 428 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: everybody how to serve and whatever. 429 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Some of them gave it a go, some of them 430 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: didn't per usual. 431 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: You know how those group events. 432 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: Those groups of make Erica go do I know, Eric, 433 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: do everything I know? 434 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: This car around to medieval town Erica. They okay, sure 435 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: got it, of. 436 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: Course doing got it, but they all share their good news. 437 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: Heather calls, but yeah, you're right. Why did Heather call it? 438 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: It must have been Friday Friday. 439 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: It was a Friday, good news Friday. 440 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: Give me good news Friday, because today is Friday. 441 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: Well, I almost said somewhere I can't get back back. 442 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Then we get Tamra asking Gretchen why she told her 443 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: and Shannon in the car that she did go to 444 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: the hospital, and then we get that flashback again. 445 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: I should have gone to the hospital. 446 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I also heard that if you clench your I think 447 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: it's your butthole. 448 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, while you're. 449 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Taking a light detective test, you'll pass. 450 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: I was not expecting this. 451 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: I now I'm scared. 452 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 453 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: I think I heard that if you put like thumbtacks 454 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: in your shoes, you'll pass. 455 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: See. So it's there might be something to it. 456 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: Who knows who? 457 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Who knows? But this is where they lose me in 458 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: this story. There's no pushback. You don't misspeak about whether 459 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: or not you've gone to. 460 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: The hospital, like you either did go or you didn't. 461 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so how do you misspeak? Don't try to flip 462 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: it around. 463 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Now, yeah you can't. You can say, oh yeah I misspoke, 464 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: but did you I don't know. I just the whole 465 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: thing about it. Here's the thing. Someone lost their job 466 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: on Atlanta for saying something about drugging someone. This to me, 467 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: in my opinion, and you can fucking come for me 468 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: as much as you want. This in my opinion, is 469 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: closely in the same lane. Like you can't do this 470 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: kind of shit. It's just not okay. So you did 471 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: go to the hospital or you didn't or roofie, Like 472 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: we can't do that, like that. 473 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: Did you say roofed? Or drug? Do you know? Like 474 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: none of it matters. 475 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 2: But also it's also not great because you can't you 476 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: can say things like that. That's a big accusation. 477 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: That's a huge accusation. 478 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: It's a huge accusation. And then to not have like 479 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: definitive answers. 480 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: No definitive answers. I don't care that you passed a 481 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: light detector test. 482 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: Fuck the light detector test. 483 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't care that you passed it. 484 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: I was just the whole the whole thing is for me, 485 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: Like this is not what Housewives is about drugging people like. 486 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: Will come on, I was watching somebody's Yeah your own. 487 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: But then Tamra and Gretchen go to the chairs to talk. 488 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Gretchen Tamra go tip for tat, going through each other 489 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: and all the things that have happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 490 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: and nothing really happens. 491 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: Because it's never going to because it's not supposed to. 492 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: It's old news. 493 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: It's not good news. It's old news. 494 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: And then Tamra said she already apologized to Slade. Gretchen 495 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: wants Tamar to apologize for calling Slade a deadbeat dad. 496 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: Well, he did get arrested for non payment, so I 497 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: mean that is a fact. Yeah, so so look, is 498 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: it insult to injury? Yeah, but is it all so true? Yeah? 499 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: But she did apologize, So so if that's what you wanted, 500 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: you gotch apology. 501 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: Now. Now, let's never ever talk about it again, right 502 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: like it's dead and buried. 503 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: We're done. We're done talking about it. I mean, I 504 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: really hope we're done talking about it. 505 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: In the Okay, do you believed Tamar like when she 506 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: grabbed her hand and said how sorry she was and 507 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: that you know it affected her, you know how do 508 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: you think I think that at this point you're very 509 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: close to Tamors, So what do you think. 510 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: I think at this point, Tamor's probably sick of talking 511 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: about this too. Yeah, okay, great, I mean how could 512 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: you not. 513 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 2: Be Well, I'm sick of it and it doesn't even 514 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: evolve me. It has nothing to do with us, and 515 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: we're sick of talking about it, and so the audience 516 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: must be sicker. 517 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the cast much must be the sickest. Yes, 518 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: Like it's just one. It's the same thing over and 519 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: over and over and over. Like, give us a break, 520 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: give us a break. 521 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: The skipping and holding hands. Uh, cheesy. Shannon doesn't think 522 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: it'll last, and I don't either, Shannon, I agree with you. 523 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: No. 524 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Then Shannon's daughter Sophie arrives and they all share their 525 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: worst breakup stories. 526 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: To cheer Sophie up, which I thought was cute. 527 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: You did. 528 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't bad. I mean it's kind of like, you know, 529 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: Sophie was crying and everybody's been there. 530 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's been there. You know. Some of the stories 531 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: were good stories and made you laugh in the summer. 532 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, depressing depressing, Yeah, wells can be depressing. 533 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: Then we get the mid season trailer, Shannon's drinking being 534 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: questioned again, Tamar meeting up with Katie and Emily telling 535 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: Gretchen it was to get info on her, and then 536 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: Gretchen sharing a salacious rumor about Tamar, Tamar shouting fuck 537 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: you and Gretchen's face, and then the Amsterdam trip where 538 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: something happens at the end for Gretchen to be upset, 539 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: and the whole group questioning things. 540 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: Do you know what this is all about? 541 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't you do. No, I don't fully know because 542 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: you have to remember I was in the hospital when 543 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: all this was opening. Yeah, so I don't really know. 544 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: That's not like me. 545 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't read a laugh, but that's. 546 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, normally I would have been on the horn. 547 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: How do you know all that? 548 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I don't really know what's going on 549 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: with all this, but I feel like we've got at 550 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: least there's going to be some movement. But now I 551 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: think now I think we were Katie's out. Wow, I 552 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: think we might see one more scene of Katie and 553 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: then she's done. 554 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 2: Until did she leave or did they make her leave? 555 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Was it a mutual agreement? What happened? 556 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: She wanted to stay, but there was no one willing 557 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: to film with her. I don't think. I think only 558 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: one person was willing to film with her. Okay, so 559 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: apparently what she told me yesterday was she wanted to 560 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: go on the cast trip, but production wouldn't let her 561 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: because they said it would be in her best interest 562 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: not to go. 563 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: I can read that so many different ways. 564 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: I know, I've never even heard. 565 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: I've never heard that. 566 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: I've never heard that. 567 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: Maybe you should set this one out for your own good. 568 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh really, that's how it works. 569 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean maybe I should have sat out something, yeah, right, 570 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: like I should have sat out two weeks ago, but 571 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: uh I didn't. 572 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Didn't, didn't, didn't. So hopefully this kind of picks up 573 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: and it keeps it moving a little bit. 574 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the one thing about Orange County that 575 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: I do have to say, and I know we're over 576 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: here like just being shady today, but they do really. 577 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's petty, it's repetitive, but somehow or another 578 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: that I'm entertained. Yeah, I know that wat it means 579 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: we're just like everybody else, That's what it means. It 580 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: means we're just like everybody else watching this shit like 581 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, we bitch about it, but. 582 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we still watch it again, still watch it again. 583 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know, to everybody out there who's listening, 584 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: we're just like you. 585 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just like you. We're just you know, we're irritated, 586 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: but we but we love it. 587 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: We're irritated, but we love it. We're frustrated, but we 588 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: love it. I appreciate the women for putting it all 589 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: out there and entertaining us. 590 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: And I wish some of them would put a little 591 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: bit more out there, and I hope that they do. 592 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: As this season. 593 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: Progresses, we'll see what happens. 594 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in for another episode of Diamonds in 595 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: the Rough.