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Speaker 2: Mike Florio was with his last hour yesterday. He sounded
Speaker 2: angry that he had an MVP vote, and I'm thinking
Speaker 2: I was honored to vote on the awards when I
Speaker 2: was covering the NBA.
Speaker 3: I loved it. Mike.
Speaker 2: It sounded like it was a burden. You know, I
Speaker 2: got to deal with the Pro Bowl and the MVP.
Speaker 2: I go, I'll take your MVP vote. I love it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: It does mean that you talk about it a lot.
Speaker 2: You have to justify who you voted for. I'm fine
Speaker 2: with that. I like that the voting is transparent. I
Speaker 2: think it should be transparent. Why did you vote? For somebody.
Speaker 2: There's so much attached to this. If you think about
Speaker 2: the conversations that we've had and other shows have about
Speaker 2: the MVP. How many hours if you fill up days
Speaker 2: of conversation about this. It's important, and I think you
Speaker 2: should be transparent with who you vote for. I have
Speaker 2: no problem with that. When I voted for the Heisman,
Speaker 2: I vote for the Heisman. I tell people this is
Speaker 2: who I voted for when I voted for MVP. And
Speaker 2: I remember I voted for Michael Jordan just about every year.
Speaker 2: But I got called out by Salt Lake City Journalist
Speaker 2: and they wanted me to go on record as why
Speaker 2: I picked Michael Jordan. I said, because he'll win the championship.
Speaker 2: And then they beat Carl Malone and Utah, and look,
Speaker 2: Carl Malone had a wonderful year, won an MVP, two MVPs.
Speaker 2: I think Charles Barkley when he won the MVP, I
Speaker 2: still voted for Michael Jordan because I look at value
Speaker 2: and so I think when you get that opportunity to
Speaker 2: be part of history, that you got to vote for
Speaker 2: somebody or you didn't vote for somebody, it's an honor.
Speaker 2: Floria was like, oh, I got so many things to
Speaker 2: do here, Mike, Mike Chill.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paulie, we were discussing it over here as you
Speaker 5: brought this topic up. Your career as a sports media person.
Speaker 5: At first you're honored, then you get to a point
Speaker 5: in your career where you're burdened by these things, and
Speaker 5: then at maybe the back half of your career you're
Speaker 5: appreciative or grateful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. I'd still love to vote for
Speaker 2: the NBA honors. In fact, you know the fact that
Speaker 2: I said to the commissioner, let's make it positionless. If
Speaker 2: you're going to have these first team, second team, third teams,
Speaker 2: Basketball doesn't have positions anymore. In fact, even going back,
Speaker 2: we were talking to this about this yesterday we were
Speaker 2: shooting hoops and uh, it was probably during a commercial
Speaker 2: breaker after the show, and seton goes, why are they
Speaker 2: called guards? Why are they called forwards? Why do you
Speaker 2: have a small forward and then you have a power
Speaker 2: forward and you have the center, Like who came up
Speaker 2: with You're going to be a guard? Okay, I don't know, Yes.
Speaker 6: I mean a center, I get yeah, I get okay.
Speaker 6: The tall guy probably played under the hoop back of
Speaker 6: the day. But what is it about a guard, Like,
Speaker 6: why would a guard be the person who brings the
Speaker 6: ball up the floor.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're still trying to figure out why Bob Cousy was
Speaker 2: a magician with the ball and nobody else was able
Speaker 2: to think about doing with Bob Kosey.
Speaker 6: By the way he dribbled, he used his body to
Speaker 6: guard the ball away from people stealing it. Okay, maybe
Speaker 6: that's what it was.
Speaker 2: And then the guys who were forward or very forward,
Speaker 2: they got forward to their forward thinking, advance the ball forward.
Speaker 3: Very forward when they're in a social setting.
Speaker 6: Not a scene anything like it.
Speaker 2: Although there's a couple of times when you look at
Speaker 2: old video. I know I'm off target here, but when
Speaker 2: you look at old footage, sometimes you'll just see somebody
Speaker 2: and you go, oh, who's that. You go, that's Elgin Baylor.
Speaker 2: Wow he played different than anybody else. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: And then you'll see Bob Coosey. Then you'll see Bill Russell,
Speaker 2: and then you'll see Wilt Chamberlain, and then you'll see
Speaker 2: Jerry West and Oscar and you go those are they
Speaker 2: playing the same game. Yes, they're all playing basketball. They're
Speaker 2: just playing it.
Speaker 3: Differently.
Speaker 2: You could see the modern era being ushered in where
Speaker 2: you had these guys who were dribbling like this and
Speaker 2: the announcer sounded like this, look at him, he's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Look at that backdoor pass.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you'd have Jerry West actually taking a jump shot,
Speaker 2: Coozy behind his back, Bill Russell on a fast break.
Speaker 2: He'd get to the top of the key, take one
Speaker 2: dribble and lay it in. Wilt scoring fifty. A game
Speaker 2: like you could actually see the changing of the guard
Speaker 2: and forward in center right in front of you. All right,
Speaker 2: got off on a tangent there, welcome to my life here.
Speaker 3: I do love those.
Speaker 6: At some point, there was like a moment in the
Speaker 6: NBA where a guy was like dribbling with one hand
Speaker 6: and then.
Speaker 3: Switched to the other hand. He's using his left hand.
Speaker 4: What is he doing?
Speaker 3: Like that moment happened and it was like, well, this
Speaker 3: guy can dribble with two hands. That's unfair, it's not legal.
Speaker 4: Both hands. He's jumping while he shoots.
Speaker 3: That shot has become the jump shot.
Speaker 4: Oh, you could tell which guys were milkman during the
Speaker 4: off season, all right, But Jerry West and like the
Speaker 4: great ones, no, they're playing in any era. But the
Speaker 4: other guys, Oh, do you want to play for the Celtics?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there are dudes that look like like they were
Speaker 6: just dropped in from like outer space based on the
Speaker 6: way they're playing, because their game is so advanced.
Speaker 3: It's like their time travelers.
Speaker 6: And they like, how the heck did that guy just
Speaker 6: jump from Like he took one dribble from half court
Speaker 6: and somehow.
Speaker 3: Laid the ball in.
Speaker 1: How can he be that?
Speaker 2: But okay, will history be kind to James Harden? When
Speaker 2: Harden did what he did to create separation with his
Speaker 2: jump shot, remember, and we thought, well that you got
Speaker 2: to call that that's that's traveling, and the NBA said, no,
Speaker 2: it's not. He created something that had never been created before.
Speaker 2: Dirk Novitski with his step back jumper when he puts
Speaker 2: his leg into your chest there, Like, there's certain moments
Speaker 2: where you go, oh, somebody created something different there right
Speaker 2: in front of us. You know, certain pictures with what
Speaker 2: they throw or how they throw. You know, Nolan Ryan
Speaker 2: to be able to throw one hundred miles an hour
Speaker 2: and you're like wow, and then everybody throws a hundred
Speaker 2: miles an hour but I think that's that's what's interesting
Speaker 2: sometimes when you see the evolution right in front of you,
Speaker 2: but none more apparent than basketball, where you're actually seeing
Speaker 2: guys who are playing the sport differently than a guy
Speaker 2: who's playing against them.
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Speaker 3: I'm focused on Monday night.
Speaker 2: You got the Vikings and the Rams, and there is
Speaker 2: a chance that they'll move that because obviously with what's
Speaker 2: going on in Los Angeles, that maybe they move that
Speaker 2: to Arizona, which to me makes the most sense. You
Speaker 2: have to play the game. You have to play that
Speaker 2: game on Monday night. In fact, it's not even fair
Speaker 2: to the teams to play on Monday night because everybody
Speaker 2: else is going to be playing on Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2: But you know, they're filling up TV time and people
Speaker 2: are spending a lot of money, and we've already seen
Speaker 2: the NFL go.
Speaker 3: Hey, how about three games in eleven days? Guys?
Speaker 2: Huh even two games and eleven would be a lot,
Speaker 2: but they crammed in three for a couple of teams there,
Speaker 2: So I don't think they're too concerned about who gets
Speaker 2: an advantage and who doesn't. But if you move it
Speaker 2: to Arizona, you can still travel there, certainly drive there
Speaker 2: from Los Angeles. People in Los Angeles have other things
Speaker 2: to worry about than a RAMS home game. But I
Speaker 2: get it. I would probably move it to Arizona. Announce
Speaker 2: that you're moving it now. Give the fan base for
Speaker 2: the Vikings the opportunity to change their plans. And if
Speaker 2: you are in Los Angeles and you get that opportunity
Speaker 2: and you want to get out of Los Angeles, you
Speaker 2: can go to Phoenix. But that's the one thing I'm
Speaker 2: curious about as far as just logistically. Then you have
Speaker 2: the other games coming up this weekend, and we've talked
Speaker 2: about what's at stake. There's a lot at stake for
Speaker 2: some of these games and some of these players. Now,
Speaker 2: if Lamar Jackson doesn't win this game, I think they're
Speaker 2: a ten point or nine and a half point favorite
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh, it's not the end of the world. If
Speaker 2: he wins the MVP and he bows out in the
Speaker 2: first round, okay, it's going to stay there with him.
Speaker 2: He's still going to be a first ballot Hall of famer.
Speaker 2: I don't think it changes anything other than your perception
Speaker 2: of him. If Russell Wilson doesn't win this game or
Speaker 2: doesn't play well in this game, what's it mean for
Speaker 2: his future. Mike Tomlin's not going anywhere unless Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: wants to go someplace else if he would lose this game,
Speaker 2: and they are, you know, almost a double digit underdog.
Speaker 2: If Sam Darnold doesn't play well, if the Vikings bow oum,
Speaker 2: does that impact him. So there's a lot of games
Speaker 2: within the games that you know, I'm going to keep
Speaker 2: an eye on that. There's storylines there. If not just
Speaker 2: who's going to advance in the playoffs. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk to Brady Quinn, former NFL quarterback, former Notre Dame quarterback,
Speaker 2: you know, join us coming up.
Speaker 3: Former Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Safety, the Ravens Pro Bowl safety Kyle Hamilton will join us,
Speaker 2: and Greg McElroy of the Mothership he will join us
Speaker 2: a little bit later on as well. I watched basketball
Speaker 2: last night. I watched the Calves against the thunder. Are
Speaker 2: the Calves at the point now where you have to
Speaker 2: acknowledge them because for a while it's.
Speaker 3: Like, man, they're good, They're good.
Speaker 2: Are these shows going to talk about the cabal Leers. No,
Speaker 2: they're talking about Lebron and the Lakers struggling, Golden State struggling.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little Wemby in there, maybe a Joe Ellenbiid comment,
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard, Cavs won again. Okay, Well they're now thirty
Speaker 2: two and four, whether you want to acknowledge them or
Speaker 2: talk about them. Marvin and I were talking about how
Speaker 2: many All Stars will come from that team. He thinks four.
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll have four. I think you'll have two.
Speaker 2: But they're a good team. They are a really good team.
Speaker 2: You have to acknowledge thirty two and four.
Speaker 7: You do.
Speaker 2: You probably can't name the starting lineup, and that's okay,
Speaker 2: But if you get an opportunity to watch them, they're
Speaker 2: a good team.
Speaker 3: Shoot the three. Mitchell's good.
Speaker 2: Remember when Donovan Mitchell it was announced that he was
Speaker 2: staying with the Cabs. I think people thought, well, he's
Speaker 2: going to end up with the Knicks, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's he's staying there. That's his team,
Speaker 2: that's his town. Thirty two and four, The Thunder are
Speaker 2: thirty and six. Yes, Marvin, so.
Speaker 4: To over Unders what two and a half for All Stars,
Speaker 4: you have two a half four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, Cleveland thirty two and four. So there
Speaker 2: have been four teams in NBA history that have posted
Speaker 2: a better record through the first thirty six games of
Speaker 2: a season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I'm not done yet.
Speaker 4: I'm excited.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A Golden State they were thirty four and two. The
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five Bulls, oh, the LA Lakers seventy one,
Speaker 2: seventy two, and seventy six ers in nineteen sixty six
Speaker 2: all were thirty three and three.
Speaker 3: They're lumped in there. Stead of a day stand a.
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Speaker 2: the official trading cards of this program. So college football tonight,
Speaker 2: it's Notre Dame by one and a half against Penn State.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Brady Quinn about that, Seaton. Let's poll
Speaker 2: question for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 3: How about we go with tonight.
Speaker 6: You would like to see dot dot dot a Notre
Speaker 6: Dame win, a Penn State win, or them both lose.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think you have as much vitriol attached
Speaker 2: to Penn State. They haven't been good enough for you
Speaker 2: to hate, although Notre Dame hasn't been good enough to
Speaker 2: hate as much as they're hated. But this is a
Speaker 2: fan base that you you kind of grew into this,
Speaker 2: you were born into this. Yeah, Like, if you're Irish Catholic,
Speaker 2: it's like you're rooting for Notre Dame. You're Irish, you've
Speaker 2: root for note right. Well, I grew up in Ohio,
Speaker 2: so I love Notre Dame. But I was an Ohio
Speaker 2: State fan, and you know so much so that you know,
Speaker 2: Sunday morning you get the re air with Lindsey Nelson
Speaker 2: and Paul Horning and they'd recap the game in an hour.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: Got out of going to church as I convinced my
Speaker 2: mom that was kind of like going to church.
Speaker 3: I'm watching Notre Dame. Yeah see yeah, that's like.
Speaker 6: Why people they was why does Notre Dame get this?
Speaker 6: Why does Notre Dame get to be independ Why do
Speaker 6: they get to be on NBC? What do they get
Speaker 6: to be because of where there's a lot of us
Speaker 6: Irish Catholics. I have no connection to Notre Dame whatsoever
Speaker 6: other than being born Irish Catholic, and everyone in my
Speaker 6: family loves Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of us could get into Notre Dame, but
Speaker 2: that didn't stop us from rooting for Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: No it name's not a very big school. Really.
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Speaker 2: on the Ravens Pro Bowl, Safety Kyle Hamilton Greg McElroy
Speaker 2: of the Mothership. I think he's calling the Friday night game.
Speaker 2: Is that correct, Todd?
Speaker 1: Uh, he's We got Faler and Herbie doing the Friday game, okay.
Speaker 4: And third McIlroy's doing tonight's go Oh.
Speaker 3: He's doing tonight's game. Oh okay, Well, thank you so.
Speaker 3: Chris Fowler's Valor is.
Speaker 4: Joining us tomorrow in the preview. Ohios, date Texas and mcleroy'
Speaker 4: previewing tonight's game with us today.
Speaker 3: Look at you. You've been busy. You've been busy. Appreciate that.
Speaker 3: That's why you're most valuable down in and off to
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Speaker 4: For twenty twenty.
Speaker 10: Do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. Rady Quinn will
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Speaker 2: We'll settle on a poll question. Get to your phone calls.
Speaker 2: I keep saying that there's a chance that Dion Sanders
Speaker 2: coaches the Raiders. There's a chance. I've been saying that
Speaker 2: I have no information there. I thought Antonio Pierce was
Speaker 2: going to be fired. I thought Tom Brady was going
Speaker 2: to be the sounding board. I think all of those things. Well,
Speaker 2: we know that Pierce got fired, we know that Tom
Speaker 2: is involved in this. We know that Tom reached out
Speaker 2: to Bill Belichick, which I found when you love to
Speaker 2: have heard that conversation. Now, for about a four hour
Speaker 2: window yesterday, it felt like every team that had an
Speaker 2: opening had reached out to Bill Belichick. I don't know
Speaker 2: why this year, and they's got a job at North
Speaker 2: Carolina and he has a buyout that's ten million dollars
Speaker 2: and I think that goes until June June first, and
Speaker 2: then I think it's a million dollars after that. So
Speaker 2: I don't know what the conversation was like, but I
Speaker 2: would love to have heard that that Tom is calling Bill. Hello, Hey, coach,
Speaker 2: it's Tom Tom Tom Brady, would you like to coach
Speaker 2: the Raiders?
Speaker 3: Is this a prank phone?
Speaker 10: Cang?
Speaker 3: No coach? Love to have you come in. Dion says
Speaker 3: that he would coach.
Speaker 2: He would have interest in the NFL if he can
Speaker 2: coach both of his sons.
Speaker 3: Why no Schador can play.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Shiloh can play at the NFL level,
Speaker 2: but you're saying there's a chance.
Speaker 3: I still don't rule that out.
Speaker 2: He's Brady Quinn, Fox College Football Analyst, Big Noon Kickoff
Speaker 2: and Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the radio
Speaker 2: show that precedes hours on Fox Sports Radio, and Brady
Speaker 2: Quinn joining us on the program. How nervous are you
Speaker 2: for this game coming up tonight?
Speaker 10: Well, first off, let me answer that question by saying
Speaker 10: this Fritzie sounds very much like Bill Belichick when he
Speaker 10: calls in for these radio hits. I just want you
Speaker 10: to know, for a very similar demeanor for Fritzie and
Speaker 10: Bill Belichick, you almost sound like the same person. But
Speaker 10: in regards to to game, there's some nerves there. I mean, look,
Speaker 10: this is a really good Penn State football team. You know,
Speaker 10: Notre Dame's banged up. I think if you look at
Speaker 10: the matchup of these two teams, you know it's gonna
Speaker 10: come down to the effectiveness of running the football and
Speaker 10: stopping to run. And I think if you look at
Speaker 10: Penn State, they've got a couple backs and K tron
Speaker 10: Allen Nick Singleton who's been phenomenal. Their tight end Tyler
Speaker 10: One will be a part of that rushing attack. And
Speaker 10: for Notre Name, you know Riley Leonard and Jeremiah Love
Speaker 10: his health and status is obviously of some concern. He's
Speaker 10: an incredible player to Darien Price can kind of take
Speaker 10: over that load along with Williams as well as the freshman.
Speaker 10: But that's you know, this is gonna be a good game.
Speaker 10: The spread tight for a reason, and I think it's
Speaker 10: gonna be potentially a really ugly game to watch, though, Dan,
Speaker 10: when it's all said and done, defensive football, you know,
Speaker 10: I think you're going to see a lot of back
Speaker 10: and forth punting. Special teams will play a role. I'll
Speaker 10: be shocked if they give Notre Names returners opportunity to
Speaker 10: actually return the football, given that. If there's one distinct
Speaker 10: advantage for No. Dame this game, it is their special
Speaker 10: team's play, especially the way it's been throughout the course
Speaker 10: of the year. Google kicking hasn't necessarily been as good consistently,
Speaker 10: but Jeter was great obviously in the most recent game.
Speaker 2: So Brady will be on the field tonight, Urban Meyer,
Speaker 2: Matt Lioner, Vince Wilfork. That'll be a pregame. You know,
Speaker 2: I was wondering about or how you thought being a
Speaker 2: former Notre Dame athlete. James Franklin was at the press
Speaker 2: conference with Marcus Freeman and he says, Hey, no offense
Speaker 2: to you, but you know, everybody should be in a conference.
Speaker 2: So there's only one school that you're talking about when
Speaker 2: you say everybody should be in a conference.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 2: Do you see a scenario at any point in the
Speaker 2: next five years where Notre Dame is in a conference?
Speaker 10: I don't, and I think there's only two ways that
Speaker 10: hand would be forced. You know. The first would be
Speaker 10: if they weren't able to play for a national championship
Speaker 10: in football, if they weren't a part of a conference.
Speaker 10: So if that ended up being the case, that would
Speaker 10: force Enter Dame to have to make decision. I think
Speaker 10: the next thing would be the economics of it. You know,
Speaker 10: if Notre Dame didn't have a television partner like NBC
Speaker 10: that is able to you know, single handedly help you know,
Speaker 10: promote their brand, their school and the university, that would
Speaker 10: be Probably the other thing is if the economics become
Speaker 10: so big in favor of joining a conference that you'd
Speaker 10: be playing at a huge disadvantage because with the NBC contract,
Speaker 10: the partial affiliation with the ACC, that's just not the
Speaker 10: case as of now, you know. And in fact, if
Speaker 10: you look at their advancement through the college football playoffs,
Speaker 10: while all these other teams are you know, making money,
Speaker 10: but they have to share with the rest of the conference,
Speaker 10: Notre Dame pockets all of it. And that's a huge
Speaker 10: advantage for them, in particular, even you know, not having
Speaker 10: to play a conference championship game, but then and then
Speaker 10: having to play a first round game because they're going
Speaker 10: to be making money off that, not only hosting one
Speaker 10: if they are good enough to host a game like
Speaker 10: this season, but also if you're looking at, you know,
Speaker 10: the subsequent rounds and all the money they'll be keeping
Speaker 10: it in their pockets.
Speaker 2: This whole thing about and I've railed on this for
Speaker 2: a while about conference championship games. I know it's a
Speaker 2: money grab, but every conference either has to have a
Speaker 2: conference championship game or not. And I wonder if we
Speaker 2: get to the point where can these conference championship games
Speaker 2: be a first round bowl game? Can we add more
Speaker 2: importance to it as opposed to what they're trying to
Speaker 2: diminish the outcome. Hey, Penn State launch to Oregon, No
Speaker 2: big deal. You get to still, you know, be a
Speaker 2: top seed.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering the future of these conference title games.
Speaker 10: To your point, it does feel like it's a money grab,
Speaker 10: you know, in reality, And I think if you look
Speaker 10: at the attendance too, in some cases, I mean it's
Speaker 10: a lot of the fans. It's hard to get probably
Speaker 10: the environment that you want. Knowing that we now have
Speaker 10: an expanded playoff and there's going to be an initial
Speaker 10: home game, or they're gonna be traveling to you know,
Speaker 10: one of the New Year six games at some point,
Speaker 10: the quarterfinals, in the semi finals, and then the national
Speaker 10: championship if you're so lucky to get there. So there's
Speaker 10: a lot of economics that it's hitting the pockets of
Speaker 10: fans and some of the teams that are a part
Speaker 10: of it. But there's also the television portion of it.
Speaker 10: And I do think you bring up a good point.
Speaker 10: You know, how necessary are these conference championship games because
Speaker 10: they felt exclusive to college football? You know, as this
Speaker 10: model looks closer and closer to the NFL playoff system,
Speaker 10: you sit there and go, well, they have a regular
Speaker 10: season where they just determine who wins the division. They
Speaker 10: don't need to play off with the top two teams
Speaker 10: at the end of the season to determine that they've
Speaker 10: already got that figured out. You could do the same
Speaker 10: thing with the conferences. The only the only tough part
Speaker 10: about saying that is you only have four teams in
Speaker 10: a vision, and these conferences now are so big that
Speaker 10: it's almost an apples the oranges comparison, and looking at,
Speaker 10: for example, the schedule Ohio State played versus, for example,
Speaker 10: the schedule Indiana played within the same conference. So because
Speaker 10: of that, you start to look at those things and go,
Speaker 10: all right, you know, maybe it's the harder that we
Speaker 10: thought just determined who the conference champion is and there's
Speaker 10: going to be a lot of years where you have
Speaker 10: a tie. I mean the Big Twelve one dude, this
Speaker 10: back when they didn't have their conference championship game. Then
Speaker 10: it was the slogan was the one true champion. And
Speaker 10: then you had Baylor and PCU tie first year of
Speaker 10: the playoff, and then neither made it in the playoff
Speaker 10: because the Big Twelve could even decide who their conference
Speaker 10: head was.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Brady Quinn, Fox Sports college football analyst.
Speaker 2: He is part of the Orange Bowl Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: Committee joining us on the program.
Speaker 3: Yeah, handed prestigious.
Speaker 10: Dan, it's a very prestigious I share it. Actually, you
Speaker 10: have a big part along with the rest of the
Speaker 10: committee and getting our three selected Hall of Fame inductees
Speaker 10: in there today. So if it just so happens that
Speaker 10: even though it's an ESPN broadcast, you know they're gonna
Speaker 10: have to maybe put a couple of Fox Sports Big
Speaker 10: New Kickoff guys on TV at some point I may
Speaker 10: or may not have played a role.
Speaker 2: Then, Okay, so Urban and Matt Lioner and Vince will
Speaker 2: Fork are going into the Orange.
Speaker 3: Bowl Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10: Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, And you're hoping that you get some kind of
Speaker 2: acknowledgment on ESPN with the Fox Big Noon kickoff.
Speaker 10: I'm not saying I'm hoping anything. I'm just saying it
Speaker 10: might be hard to cover a game than not cover,
Speaker 10: you know, three historic figures in this you know tradition,
Speaker 10: the history of the Orange Bowl can not include acknowledging
Speaker 10: that at some point like hey, Urban Meyer and Matt
Speaker 10: Leoner and Vince Wolfberk are here because they're being inducted
Speaker 10: into the Hall of Fame. Like it just it seems
Speaker 10: like if you're ESPN, of granted they make some mistakes,
Speaker 10: but if you're ESPEN, you probably want to include that
Speaker 10: at some point the broadcast. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Handicap Ohio State, Texas.
Speaker 10: I would say the Lion's sitting right now at six
Speaker 10: at this point, I think, you know, again, it comes
Speaker 10: down to like both these teams playing to their potential.
Speaker 10: We've seen Ohio State due that the past two weeks
Speaker 10: and everyone goes, my goodness, that's the best team in
Speaker 10: the country and it's not even close. And on the
Speaker 10: flip side, we watched Texas and it feels like at
Speaker 10: times not that they get disinterested. You know, I'm not
Speaker 10: going to play on that narrative, but it doesn't feel
Speaker 10: like they ever play up to their potential. So I
Speaker 10: don't know if they can find that, if Quinn yours
Speaker 10: and this offense can can find more of that, consistently,
Speaker 10: find more of that, like big play ability to break off,
Speaker 10: you know, versus Ohio State like they did and have
Speaker 10: so far in this playoff. I mean, it's like between
Speaker 10: Oregon and Tennessee and they put their foot on the gas.
Speaker 10: It's like it's not even close. And I obviously have
Speaker 10: a ton of respect for Dan Lanning the job he
Speaker 10: did at Organ this year, So that to me, that
Speaker 10: Ohio State team, it's more about can they continue the momentum.
Speaker 10: Can they continue to keep playing at the level which
Speaker 10: they have now the past two games? If they have
Speaker 10: no one can touch them like this spread, in my opinion,
Speaker 10: should be like nine and a half. If Ohio State's
Speaker 10: going to be the team we saw the first two
Speaker 10: games so far in the playoff.
Speaker 2: What if Quinn Ewers wins the National Championship and then
Speaker 2: has to leave Texas.
Speaker 10: It's a great hypothetical to throw out there, But if
Speaker 10: he's leaving Taxes after winning the National Championship, he's going
Speaker 10: to be going to the draft. Like everyone wants to
Speaker 10: make this like some big conversation about you know, the
Speaker 10: arch manning and he's going to be the guy next year,
Speaker 10: and then that's that's all, you know true. But if
Speaker 10: I'm quinn yours and in that scenario plays itself out,
Speaker 10: I'm looking at this quarterback draft class and going hold
Speaker 10: on a second, right, Chador looks to be the number
Speaker 10: one guy based on the tape and film and all that,
Speaker 10: But like, why can't Quinn be the next guy based
Speaker 10: on these evaluations. You know, he's played really well through
Speaker 10: his career in big games. He's got the arm strength,
Speaker 10: he's got the abilities, He's been tough this year playing
Speaker 10: through injury. I'm just I'm not sure in a year
Speaker 10: where with the tape that Carson Deck put out there,
Speaker 10: he's coming off an injury. You know, cam Ord was
Speaker 10: special and dynamic, but people are gonna have concerns about,
Speaker 10: you know, operating an NFL offense, all those things that
Speaker 10: come up that people try to you know, draw and
Speaker 10: take away from what they see on tape. And so
Speaker 10: why not if your Quinnyewers try to be a part
Speaker 10: of this quarterback draft class playing on all that momentum
Speaker 10: that you would be getting off a national championship.
Speaker 3: Is Riley Leonard an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 10: I think so, you know, look, I think there's still
Speaker 10: parts of his game that are developing. He reminds me
Speaker 10: a lot of Ryan Tannano. You know, when you go
Speaker 10: back to Ryan, who played wide receiver at his time
Speaker 10: of tax fan them then transition to a quarterback. Now,
Speaker 10: I think Ryan had you know, in this time at
Speaker 10: Texas and m displayed himself as much more of a
Speaker 10: passer at that point. But if you look at Riley,
Speaker 10: I mean, he's getting to a team in his you know,
Speaker 10: final year of play, and he's got to learn a
Speaker 10: new offense, he's got to develop chemistry at these guys,
Speaker 10: and there's a lot of moving parts to all that.
Speaker 10: And so I think there's gonna be people who are
Speaker 10: going to be able to watch the tave and say
Speaker 10: his incredible athletes, is a good leader, He's obviously tough.
Speaker 10: He has all these entangles we're looking for off to
Speaker 10: the size, and he has the arm strength. It's just
Speaker 10: there's things they got to hone in on in regards
Speaker 10: to how he sees the field, how he processes, and
Speaker 10: in particular throwing down the field. You know, that's one
Speaker 10: of the things that I think stands out to me
Speaker 10: is they haven't been able to be a successful over
Speaker 10: ten yards downfield consistently within the offense. And again, there's
Speaker 10: a lot of reasons to that, but I think he's
Speaker 10: got the capability of playing at the next level.
Speaker 2: If Bill Belichick asked for advice, what would you tell him?
Speaker 10: Oh? Man, I would tell him, why the hell are
Speaker 10: you asking me to? Like you already got problems. If
Speaker 10: you're like, let's just start with this, like like where
Speaker 10: did you go wrong? Like I'll probably tho back around him,
Speaker 10: But who's who gave you good advice? Or why who
Speaker 10: told you to ask me something? I guess the first
Speaker 10: thing I would say is it's it's so hard because
Speaker 10: we're assuming he's head coach in North Carolina, right, We're
Speaker 10: not assuming he's going to potentially leave for an NFL job,
Speaker 10: which still baffles me that you know, someone assn't hired
Speaker 10: him in the past two years. If that's the case,
Speaker 10: I would say the number one thing he has to
Speaker 10: go find a quarterback, like evaluate the roster and you can,
Speaker 10: you know, construct the roster through nil and high school
Speaker 10: recruit and all that, but he needs to find a
Speaker 10: veteran guy he can get to the portal the best
Speaker 10: guy possible, and he needs to go attack and get
Speaker 10: one of these scud guys coming out from high school.
Speaker 10: And you need to have at least a couple of
Speaker 10: guys there to provide you depth of ability but also
Speaker 10: for stability. So that would be the number one thing
Speaker 10: that I'd say. If you'll get a college game, like
Speaker 10: I would actually say the college quarterback is more paramount
Speaker 10: then even like an NFL quarterback to a degree, And
Speaker 10: people might take issue with that, but I just think
Speaker 10: the way the game is played nowadays and the way
Speaker 10: the advantage that the elite quarterback at college gives you
Speaker 10: over even at the NFL. We got to go up
Speaker 10: against good defenses, and the offensive line matters even more.
Speaker 10: There's all these other parts play a factor. I mean,
Speaker 10: if you have an elite quarterback, like you really can
Speaker 10: go far. And I think cam Ward's an example of that.
Speaker 10: Like how many of those other players on Miami this
Speaker 10: year you look at and saying, well, those guys are
Speaker 10: draft the board. Those guys are going to be, you know,
Speaker 10: top picks, and I think without him this year, they're
Speaker 10: probably a five win team. And then it's traumatically different
Speaker 10: conversation when cam Moore gets there. So I would say
Speaker 10: he's got to go address that position first and foremost
Speaker 10: with an older, experienced guy if he can. If he
Speaker 10: has to you to the portal, then obviously high school guy.
Speaker 2: Have fun tonight and don't be like, you know, somebody's
Speaker 2: on the field at ESPN. Are you going to be
Speaker 2: like jumping behind them and jumping up and you're not
Speaker 2: going to be waving Okay, no.
Speaker 10: I'll be hard to miss. I'll be wearing my orange
Speaker 10: jacket down there, so if you looked down, they're like,
Speaker 10: why why is he wearing orange? Like what? Like not
Speaker 10: a lot of people know that I'm on the Orange
Speaker 10: Bowl committee, so's it's always funny to see the response
Speaker 10: from people when you wear the orange jacket, because they
Speaker 10: do stand out. It's tremendous marketing, but that always comes
Speaker 10: with like who are you rooting for? If you're wearing orange.
Speaker 10: I'm like, well, I've got my endy stuff on underneath,
Speaker 10: but I'll be wearing an orange jacket during the presentation.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brady, Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's Brady Quinn, Fox college football analyst, part of the
Speaker 2: Orange Bowl Hall of Fame Committee. Of course, he is
Speaker 2: a couple of phone calls in here Doug in North Carolina.
Speaker 3: Hi, Doug, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Well, Dan, I have a challenge for you and the boys.
Speaker 8: But before I get to that, I wanted to set
Speaker 8: this up by giving you some breaking news, So I
Speaker 8: was hoping to get the Peter Jennings ABC News music.
Speaker 8: There it is, then, your North Carolina Bureau has con
Speaker 8: firm that tomorrow's Meat Friday will feature stump sound oysters
Speaker 8: from the tops of island here in North Carolina. Three
Speaker 8: hundred oysters left the Cape Fear region on Tuesday, and
Speaker 8: our schedule to arrive at the man Cave sometime between
Speaker 8: now and one o'clock this afternoon. Tyler and I have
Speaker 8: been working on this for.
Speaker 3: The last oh all right, I've got a researching applause.
Speaker 2: Doug Fritzy says that Doug's not a good caller, but
Speaker 2: I disagree.
Speaker 8: I know Tyler has been researching ways to prepare these
Speaker 8: on the trigger, but the most popular ways to eat
Speaker 8: them raw. So that's my challenge. I want to challenge you,
Speaker 8: Dan and the Danets to eat one raw oyster live
Speaker 8: on the air tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have no problem with that. Yeah that's Fritzy. Okay, Fritzy,
Speaker 3: can you eat a raw oyster?
Speaker 4: I guess we'll find out what happens.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wait, you've never had a wrong oyster.
Speaker 4: I must have along the way when we've gone out.
Speaker 5: I've had oysters before, and I think I've had it
Speaker 5: where I just ate.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if you did. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: And Marvin, you good with an oyster?
Speaker 4: I am, yes, Paul, you know I love them.
Speaker 5: I can't get enough.
Speaker 3: Rise all right, seat, and you're good with oysters? Yeah? Okay, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: We are going to New Orleans in a couple of
Speaker 5: weeks and down in New Orleans there's a place called Drago's.
Speaker 5: They make those grilled oysters. Grilled oysters on the tragger
Speaker 5: will be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, Doug in North Carolina. I guess he's a supplying tyler.
Speaker 2: Kept out a secret. I asked him today. I said,
Speaker 2: you got to go shopping today. He goes, yeah, but
Speaker 2: he didn't tell me what he was shopping for. Now
Speaker 2: I know he's getting some oysters being delivered for meat
Speaker 2: Friday tomorrow.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: I like that, Thank you, Doug. We appreciate that. All right,
Speaker 2: And we'll eat an oyster live on the air. All right,
Speaker 2: not a live oyster on the air, but we'll be
Speaker 2: live on the air when we eat an oyster.
Speaker 3: You want some cocktail sauce, some horse seradish in their time.
Speaker 4: That sounds delicious.
Speaker 2: Okay, it is very good. All right, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 2: be on the call for the game tonight. He will
Speaker 2: join us as well. Paulie I mentioned this to start
Speaker 2: the show. Why did James Nasmith? Did James Nasmith come
Speaker 2: up with the terms guard, forward, and center?
Speaker 5: No, not necessarily, okay, the origin of the word guards, center,
Speaker 5: and forward were based off They kind of just happened
Speaker 5: after his rules came basketball in the eighteen nineties. You
Speaker 5: couldn't dribble, you couldn't run with the ball. It was
Speaker 5: almost like ultimate frisbee, where you passed to an area,
Speaker 5: the person caught it passed to a person in another area.
Speaker 4: Who wants to.
Speaker 5: Guess why guards were called guards, Marvin.
Speaker 4: I think guards were kind of almost like goalie types
Speaker 4: where they just stopped the other person from scoring.
Speaker 5: That's about eighty percent correct.
Speaker 3: So you were guarding the ball.
Speaker 5: Guards where the people were not allowed to go past
Speaker 5: the half court line. They had to stay back and
Speaker 5: guard the basket. They were never allowed to go past
Speaker 5: the half court line. Forwards were the opposite your forwards
Speaker 5: were way down on the other end of the court.
Speaker 5: They're the ones who caught the ball and put it
Speaker 5: into the basket, which had no net. It was a basket.
Speaker 5: So that's why Ford the Fords. Why are centers called centers.
Speaker 6: Because they stood in this center?
Speaker 5: That is correct, The center jump exactly right. I'm glad
Speaker 5: you guys didn't overthink it. Yes, they after every made basket,
Speaker 5: they went back to the middle of the court, and
Speaker 5: the tallest player in the courts usually did another tip,
Speaker 5: so it was at the center of the court. And
Speaker 5: the name became center.
Speaker 10: Okay.
Speaker 5: Now, as basketball moved on, guards were split up into
Speaker 5: two different categories. There was the running guard, who dribbled
Speaker 5: the ball up the court. One person was designated to
Speaker 5: do that, and the stationary guard, which had to pick
Speaker 5: a spot on the court, stay there and shoot the ball.
Speaker 5: Couldn't run once you got the ball.
Speaker 2: So I would have been the stationary Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was your nickname. Yeah, I was called stationary, especially
Speaker 2: on defense.
Speaker 5: I tried to find who nick created the term point guard.
Speaker 5: All I can find out is that it was late
Speaker 5: seventies early eighties. Point guard was commonly used in the seventies,
Speaker 5: and when you look at Basketball Almanac, they did not
Speaker 5: have split up point guard shooting guards. You were just guard.
Speaker 5: A lot of people credit Magic Johnson with popularizing the
Speaker 5: term when they people talked about him, because when Magic
Speaker 5: Johnson came out of college, they're like, whoh, he's a
Speaker 5: shooting guard. Like no, no, no, let's be clear, he's
Speaker 5: a point guard. And it caught on more in the
Speaker 5: early eighties. That's best I could find.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, your place on the floor was at the
Speaker 2: top of the key, so that would have been the
Speaker 2: point of the offense, I guess, but I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't know, because Bob Coosey would have been the ultimate
Speaker 2: point guard if you look back on his role for Thetics.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of somebody else. I remember when
Speaker 2: Earl Monroe and Wald Frasier played for the Knicks, and
Speaker 2: they were like, well, who's the point guard and who's
Speaker 2: the shooting guard? And they were neat. I mean, Earl
Speaker 2: was a great scorer. Clyde, I guess, would have been
Speaker 2: the point guard. But I like when Jerry West played
Speaker 2: with Gail Goodrich for the Lakers. Gail was a scorer,
Speaker 2: you know, and Jerry was his scorer. So it wasn't
Speaker 2: one of those where you go, Okay, you're a point guard,
Speaker 2: which means you don't shoot and you're a shooting guard.
Speaker 2: But hey, that's interesting, Marvin, you look like you're puzzled.
Speaker 4: Well that's why I always I'm always puzzled with the
Speaker 4: state with the case of Steph Curry because he's a
Speaker 4: quote unquote point guard, but he's not really a point guard.
Speaker 4: He just brings the ball up. I think there's a
Speaker 4: difference between somebody who brings the ball up and somebody
Speaker 4: who's the actual point guard that runs the offense, leaves
Speaker 4: the league and assists, or the team and assists. So
Speaker 4: when people say, oh, is he the greatest point guard ever?
Speaker 3: No, no, he's not right. I don't I don't con
Speaker 3: or him.
Speaker 2: He's the greatest shooter of all time, he's not the
Speaker 2: greatest point guard because he's not a great passer. He's
Speaker 2: had it in two games where he hadn't even had
Speaker 2: an assist. Draymond Green usually leads the team and assist.
Speaker 2: Steph is one of the great players of all time.
Speaker 2: I think that's always kind of weird when you say,
Speaker 2: all right, who's the best power forward? And then you'll
Speaker 2: be like, oh, you know Tim Duncan because he's got
Speaker 2: five titles. If you said, all right, give me the
Speaker 2: fifteen best players, no position, you know, then do you
Speaker 2: put it? You know, where's Tim Duncan with that? But
Speaker 2: when you say, hey, best power forward of all time?
Speaker 2: Because Bird wasn't a power forward. Kevin McHale was a
Speaker 2: power forward, which I don't know when you have those
Speaker 2: kind of titles, it's always awkward, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: what Dirk Novisky was, like, what was he was?
Speaker 3: He a three was he a four? Yes, Mark?
Speaker 4: And then in the mid two thousands you had all
Speaker 4: those great seven footers Rashi Wallas, Dirt Noviski, Kevin Garnett
Speaker 4: that would have been sent yeah. In the eighties and
Speaker 4: then they were power forwards and you had guys like
Speaker 4: Theo Ratliff that made all NBA teams because he was
Speaker 4: listed as a senate.
Speaker 3: Ratlift NICs reference. Yeah, Theo Ratliffe.
Speaker 2: See, that's why I'm like the All NBA team. We
Speaker 2: got to have a center. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan's Yeah, DeAndre Jordan.
Speaker 2: I go, he's not one of the top thirty fifty
Speaker 2: best players in the NBA top five that year. Yeah
Speaker 2: he was, Yeah, And they were handing out bonuses bonuses
Speaker 2: because of that.
Speaker 3: Let me see Matt in South Bend. Hi, Matt, what's
Speaker 3: on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Hey, Good morning, Dan, and happy orasble day. I was
Speaker 7: called to offer a Piet of the face bet to
Speaker 7: anybody that would take it. Okay, I want notre dame
Speaker 7: versus the field here in the semi finals and put
Speaker 7: a little wool sweetener on it, like to offer you
Speaker 7: the fireball bet. Since we were with me at the
Speaker 7: Nerdame tailgate in twenty fifteen, and couldn't do the fireball
Speaker 7: with all the bones around.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do a fireball, Matt. How crazy
Speaker 2: was that? All I wanted was a beer? And I
Speaker 2: walk up to the tailgate and everybody was doing fireballs,
Speaker 2: and I said, all right, if it means I get
Speaker 2: a beer, I'll do a fireball. As soon as I
Speaker 2: took that shot, I was getting ready. There were fifteen
Speaker 2: cameras there, cameras. I go, no, no, no, we're not doing this. No,
Speaker 2: we're not doing this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not going to blame you, you know, specifically,
Speaker 2: but all I wanted was a beer. We were there
Speaker 2: for the USC game and we're I kept thinking, this
Speaker 2: is Notre Dame. There's got to be people just handing
Speaker 2: out beer. All right, who wants a piece of Matt?
Speaker 2: Matt's got Notre Dame winning at all. Anybody going to
Speaker 2: go against the fighting.
Speaker 4: Tod Yeah, I can see them winning at all.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, I can probably go against it.
Speaker 3: All right, Matt Seaton's going to go against you love it.
Speaker 7: Let's go Irish baby.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: All right, how's this going to go over? At home seating.
Speaker 2: You're betting against the Irish.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, My nephew goes there right now. So I'm sure
Speaker 6: that that's side of the family's not happy with it.
Speaker 6: But why not make it more interesting. I gotta admit though,
Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of faith in them. I
Speaker 6: love them, They're great, but I don't have a lot
Speaker 6: of faith in them to do that.
Speaker 2: Are those helmets they have? Is that twenty three carrot gold?
Speaker 2: Did they actually have? I mean, it's that gold in
Speaker 2: those helmets. For some reason, I.
Speaker 5: Gold sprinkle gold flakes, gold flakes, twenty three point nine
Speaker 5: carrot gold flakes.
Speaker 2: Those are gorgeous, they are. They're gorge alrighty one hour
Speaker 2: in the books already, two more to go. You got
Speaker 2: the Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Paulie yours truly
Speaker 2: hour two after this