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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, A bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. Day.
Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September fifteenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode
Speaker 1: number twenty three. Welcome to the latest edition of The
Speaker 1: Break Life from this WBC Mortgage Studios at the Starman,
Speaker 1: Nick and Nick and I join are here. We got
Speaker 1: Dave and Amber at their homes. We're talking Cowboys football,
Speaker 1: if you guys, for about forty five minutes. And we've
Speaker 1: got so much to get into. As I started putting
Speaker 1: this together, so many different topics we can hit, but
Speaker 1: I think right now there's none bigger than the injury
Speaker 1: situation for this team. Cowboys came out of that last
Speaker 1: game a little beat up and quite frankly beat up
Speaker 1: at some positions where I think they probably don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of room to be beat up. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. I'm gonna run through some of
Speaker 1: these different positions and what your take is on how
Speaker 1: they should handle some of these situations. We'll do a
Speaker 1: segment where we'll do our I know, I think I
Speaker 1: have no idea. Hopefully you guys got some good stuff there.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about Dak Prescott. Some news
Speaker 1: came out yesterday was pretty interesting about the contract negotiations
Speaker 1: and how they played out this offseason. I want to
Speaker 1: get your opinions on that, and then we'll find get
Speaker 1: to the end of the show, we'll talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the NFC East and the team's there and
Speaker 1: what they did over week one and what we expect
Speaker 1: going into week two. How's everybody doing today? Doing great? Great, Derek,
Speaker 1: Thanks Dave, appreciate that. Awesome. We got good energy. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Dave, your stars going to the final finals,
Speaker 1: they're at the finals. They're not They're not my stars.
Speaker 1: You're wearing for the Stars. Well, I'm trying to I'm
Speaker 1: trying to support local. I mean, I'm happy they want
Speaker 1: I just I don't want people to think that I like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a bandwagon guy for
Speaker 1: the Stump Goat Stars. Yeah, I'm just stand like now,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in the Stanley Cup Finals. Now I
Speaker 1: will say this, I'm just saying, no great day, just
Speaker 1: you know, shout out Danny Serek and Kelsey Charles. Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have cared about the
Speaker 1: Stars a lot longer than I have. But I'm very
Speaker 1: excited that they're in Mickey, Yeah, Mickey's the season ticket holder.
Speaker 1: They're upset. Actually, they're like happy and upset at the
Speaker 1: same time because they've waited so long. You get season
Speaker 1: tickets so you can go to games and you can
Speaker 1: go to for a moment like this, and they're playing
Speaker 1: where Edmonton orson. I mean, I don't know where, but
Speaker 1: I mean, congratulations and Stars. That's a big feat. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll even watch this because you know the
Speaker 1: local team. Like you said, the local team. I'm not
Speaker 1: a hockey fan, but when your local team is in it,
Speaker 1: then you kind of watch. The same reason when I
Speaker 1: watched the Rangers when they were in the World Series.
Speaker 1: It's local team. You root for him, all right, So
Speaker 1: good luck to the Stars. Let's jump into some cowboys
Speaker 1: to talk. I first want to start with some of
Speaker 1: these injuries. We'll start with Layton vander esh yesterday it
Speaker 1: was I guess it's it's been confirmed that he has
Speaker 1: a broken collar bone, looking like he could be out
Speaker 1: up to eight weeks. My first question for you guys
Speaker 1: is what would you do at the linebacker position? Nick,
Speaker 1: let's start with you, based on what they currently have,
Speaker 1: based upon him being out, based upon shan Lee being
Speaker 1: out for another presumably at least two weeks, what do
Speaker 1: you do at linebacker position? Well, I think Layton is
Speaker 1: having surgery today. I might have already had it. It's
Speaker 1: supposed to be today. What do you do? You played
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. You know, Joe Thomas is a good is
Speaker 1: a good player. I think he's he might be one
Speaker 1: of those guys that's better as the backup linebacker who
Speaker 1: will play a lot of your special teams. So if
Speaker 1: he has to play a lot, you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if Luke Gifford is is actually inserted into this.
Speaker 1: He may even start. You know, he's been banged up
Speaker 1: as well his whole career, But I think Louke Gifford's
Speaker 1: a guy that might be somebody that wears the helmet
Speaker 1: that that has that can make the calls. So it
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if Gifford plays a lot, perhaps even
Speaker 1: starts Amber. What do you do? I would like to
Speaker 1: see Bernard over Louk Gifford, just because he was actually
Speaker 1: able to get more work in during training camp. And
Speaker 1: like Nick mentioned, Gifford has been dealing with his own injuries,
Speaker 1: and I know he's healthy now, but still those being
Speaker 1: out there and being able to practice obviously make a difference.
Speaker 1: And Bernard, I know he might not be at the
Speaker 1: level that you want him to beat yet, but I
Speaker 1: think that based on everything that he showed during training camp,
Speaker 1: he has enough to at least be able to get
Speaker 1: in there and get some reps and get some practice
Speaker 1: in on real game time. You know, we were kind
Speaker 1: of all, I'll let Dave talk about linebacker for a second,
Speaker 1: but about Bernard. You know, we were all kind of
Speaker 1: wondering why he was cut. And I had someone tell
Speaker 1: me the other day that the two things that are
Speaker 1: that's bad about Bernard is number one, he can't run,
Speaker 1: he's not very fast, and number two, he knows he's
Speaker 1: not very fast, so which I don't really know what
Speaker 1: that means. It's just that those two things he's not
Speaker 1: he's not a fluid player sideline to sideline type. He
Speaker 1: makes some plays, he gets around the ball, which you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that there's worse things in the world than that.
Speaker 1: But I think that his athleticism is what scares the
Speaker 1: Cowboys a little bit. But I do think she's right.
Speaker 1: I think that he'll get called up. I don't, but
Speaker 1: maybe for special team's purposes. Dave, what do you do
Speaker 1: at linebacker? Yeah, I would guess Bernard gets called up
Speaker 1: to help account for Joe Thomas's special team snaps would
Speaker 1: be my guests. But overall, I think this is a
Speaker 1: situation where I mean, look, nobody's excited about it, but
Speaker 1: I think you just kind of have to hold the line.
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Thomas can step in and get starting snaps.
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford can help, Bernard can handle some special teams.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'd like to believe Sean Lee will
Speaker 1: be available in a couple of weeks. You can roll
Speaker 1: your eyes at me if you want to, but he
Speaker 1: started thirteen games last year and played really well. So
Speaker 1: I look, we all know injuries have been a problem
Speaker 1: for him his entire career, but he does have a
Speaker 1: track record of stepping in and playing well when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: and you just gotta do what you gotta do in
Speaker 1: an unideal situation right now, you know, Layton hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 1: he'll be back in six to eight weeks. Like I said,
Speaker 1: you get reinforcements with Sean in a few weeks hopefully,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's probably your best bet.
Speaker 1: People people want to throw out like a Clay Matthews.
Speaker 1: That's not the type of linebacker the Cowboys need. You
Speaker 1: know that he's he made his money in his Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls as a pass rusher. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: many pure off ball linebackers that would make this team
Speaker 1: better or available that are you know, better than the
Speaker 1: guys that have been here throughout camp. And you know
Speaker 1: we've heard anything else on like Sean Lee. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm still very confused on his injury. And I know
Speaker 1: he's on IR and that's at least two more weeks
Speaker 1: before he gets to come back. But it's just very
Speaker 1: confusing to me after an off season of not necessarily
Speaker 1: getting some football working and then he comes back not
Speaker 1: being able to do anything at all. Now, they haven't
Speaker 1: really said a lot about his injury, and they didn't
Speaker 1: have to once they put him on IR. He's not
Speaker 1: even on the list for the injury reports. So Dave,
Speaker 1: unless you know kind of what he's dealing with, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I mean with John, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be reckless, but with Sean, soft
Speaker 1: tissue is usually a good guess. That's been the problem
Speaker 1: with him for most of his career. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of conditioning with Britt Brown, the
Speaker 1: director of rehab, you know, all throughout training camp. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been super quiet with whatever it is, which is
Speaker 1: sort of weird to me because we're used to talking
Speaker 1: out Sean Lee's injuries, so I don't know that anybody
Speaker 1: would that it should be extra alarming. But at this
Speaker 1: point I'm taking them at their word that he can
Speaker 1: be available in the next three or so weeks. If
Speaker 1: that's not true, then it changes the game a little bit,
Speaker 1: but for the time being, you know, with a game
Speaker 1: in five days. Like I said, I think you are
Speaker 1: what you are for right now. I don't think any
Speaker 1: of us and I actually I just say all of
Speaker 1: us agreed. I think on Sunday, Jalen Smith didn't have
Speaker 1: his best game against the Rams. That all being said,
Speaker 1: I want you guys to give and we're gonna go around.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to give me a number, ten
Speaker 1: being the most and one being the least. How concerned
Speaker 1: are you with the linebacker position. Let's start with you
Speaker 1: Amber eight. I'm pretty concerned, honestly. And the thumb thumb, Yes,
Speaker 1: you didn't count the thumb. There you go, my little
Speaker 1: thumbs out. No. I was gonna say. Another thing that's
Speaker 1: very confusing to me is I know I watched Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith all throughout camp, and I know that these practices
Speaker 1: are very different from real game. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how you go from having such
Speaker 1: a great camp into playing the way that he did
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's it's just it doesn't make any sense
Speaker 1: to me. I was expecting him to be able to
Speaker 1: do a lot more, and unfortunately he did so I am.
Speaker 1: I am pretty concerned how the linebacker position right now?
Speaker 1: You know what I can offer you a bit of
Speaker 1: an explanation. There no good and that's I think maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't do a good enough job. I think
Speaker 1: we did. But like a thing that people have to
Speaker 1: remember about this training camp is like we were watching
Speaker 1: them install their offense and defense, Like that's what that was.
Speaker 1: They were going through what they want to put in.
Speaker 1: Like they're not playing a game against each other, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily trying to exploit each other. They're trying
Speaker 1: to get familiar with what they're going to be running
Speaker 1: on Sundays throughout the season on offense and defense. And
Speaker 1: so it's a lot different going against an install against
Speaker 1: your own team than the Rams sitting down and saying
Speaker 1: this is what Jaylen Smith doesn't do well and this
Speaker 1: is how we're going to target it. I think those
Speaker 1: are two completely different things. And to fold that into
Speaker 1: my answer, yeah, I'm right there with you, Agie. Like
Speaker 1: having watched them play on Sunday and knowing that Layton's
Speaker 1: not available, I'm at like an eight because Jay, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jayleen Smith just looked like a serious problem and then
Speaker 1: the guy next to him, Layton is out. It seems
Speaker 1: bad for me. The other thing I'll point out real quick,
Speaker 1: Nick before I get yours, is I think, with Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith and what you saw during training camp, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys offense during training camp looked a lot
Speaker 1: like what you saw the Cowboys having a problem with
Speaker 1: the other night against the Rams. It wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of misdirection, it wasn't a lot of screens, It wasn't
Speaker 1: the things that typically have hurt this defense over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, particularly when they've played the Rams,
Speaker 1: and so I think maybe we just didn't see Jalen
Speaker 1: in that kind of situation the other night. What it
Speaker 1: looked like was again Jayalen was having a hard time
Speaker 1: diagnosing what was going on. Then he'd get out of position,
Speaker 1: and then he couldn't get off blocks. And so when
Speaker 1: you got those three things happening, it's not like it
Speaker 1: is not gonna be a good day for you against
Speaker 1: the team that's doing that kind of stuff on offense.
Speaker 1: Question will be ken, was that just a bad game
Speaker 1: because he wasn't prepared for it, in which case you
Speaker 1: kind of wonder why it wasn't he prepared for it,
Speaker 1: or is this just a sign that that things are
Speaker 1: going to be as they have been for him, which
Speaker 1: means that Jalen is going to be an okay player.
Speaker 1: But Jalen's gonna always have some issues, which that's when
Speaker 1: we saw last year he was an okay player, but
Speaker 1: he certainly had issues at times. Nick Well, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're all concerned about it. But the more
Speaker 1: concerning part is is your linebackers might be your best
Speaker 1: positions on defense still. I mean really well, I mean
Speaker 1: from what if if we're judging one game. I mean,
Speaker 1: because if we're judging one game off Jalen Smith, I'd
Speaker 1: hate to judge Tank Lawrence right now. I'd hate to
Speaker 1: judge some of those defensive linemen. The secondary didn't I
Speaker 1: mean that they were okay, I mean that nothing great.
Speaker 1: So the problem is is that we thought that the
Speaker 1: linebackers would be freed up to go run, to make
Speaker 1: plays and do all that, and you know that that
Speaker 1: really didn't happen. I mean, the Rams give them some
Speaker 1: credit to that. They did a really good job that
Speaker 1: they did this two years ago of disguising things and
Speaker 1: they make it really tough for your linebackers. Somebody said
Speaker 1: this to me on Twitter, and I you know, nobody
Speaker 1: cares about excuses, but let's not be surprised that one
Speaker 1: team that's got four years with the coaching staff, that's
Speaker 1: actually been to a Super Bowl actually come out and
Speaker 1: look way more prepared than somebody than another coaching staff
Speaker 1: that's never played a game in a preseason, done anything
Speaker 1: before like that shouldn't be surprising. No one cares that.
Speaker 1: No one's saying that excuses. I'm just saying one team
Speaker 1: has done this a lot, and at the very high level.
Speaker 1: One team hasn't, and it showed. But but I think, well,
Speaker 1: we've been kind of at least sold in my opinion,
Speaker 1: maybe not said explicitly, but well, I think we've been sold.
Speaker 1: Is the fact that when you look at it, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be I mean, this team was basically coming in
Speaker 1: and it was an advantage that nobody had seen what
Speaker 1: they were gonna do. You know that certainly didn't look
Speaker 1: like the case there. You knew exactly like we all
Speaker 1: talk about, we saw exactly with the RAMS what we
Speaker 1: had seen before from the RAMS, And so you had
Speaker 1: one team that could look at film and actually see
Speaker 1: what they do, and they looked like they were completely
Speaker 1: out of sorts and didn't exactly know how to react
Speaker 1: to that. He had another team that nobody had any
Speaker 1: idea what they were gonna do, and it seemed like
Speaker 1: for the most part, they were able to neutralize a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Yeah, and the main reason for that
Speaker 1: is because their offensive coordinator called the same plays they
Speaker 1: was calling last year. I mean, like we saw bubble screams,
Speaker 1: pop passes, we saw all of those little reverse misdirection
Speaker 1: things in training camp. Didn't see anything like that during
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I really I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: see Tony Pollar do dynamic things. I didn't see CD
Speaker 1: Lamb going in motion with fake reverses and things like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't see all that. Yeah, all right, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and move on. Let's talk about Blake Jarwin. Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin now is expected to miss the season with a
Speaker 1: horn acl. My question for you guys is what do
Speaker 1: you do with that position. You do have a guy
Speaker 1: like a Delaney Walker who has been injured a lot
Speaker 1: during his career, coming off an injury, an older guy,
Speaker 1: but when healthy, pretty productive and at least according to reports,
Speaker 1: he is sitting out there healthy. Do you look at
Speaker 1: maybe going out and getting a guy like a Delaney
Speaker 1: Walker to bring in to your team. Let's start first
Speaker 1: with you, Dave Man. I leaned toward thinking they have
Speaker 1: to and I'm not sitting here trying to say Delaney
Speaker 1: Walker is the same guy that he was when he
Speaker 1: was on a Super Bowl team. I'm looking at his stats.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had an eight hundred yard season in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. That was the last time he made the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Injuries have completely decimated his production since then.
Speaker 1: He had two hundred yards in seven games last year.
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, I would kick the tires because we
Speaker 1: already knew the tight end position was one of the
Speaker 1: thinnest on this entire team. And I felt good about
Speaker 1: it because that's how much I like Blake Jarwin. But
Speaker 1: to loose who's him in the first half of the
Speaker 1: first game, I mean, think about what you have behind him?
Speaker 1: You have what third year pro Dalton Schultz, who, once again,
Speaker 1: you know, he did not live up to the opportunity
Speaker 1: that he was given by Jarwin's injury. Sean McCune has
Speaker 1: never played an NFL game. Blake Bell has been you know,
Speaker 1: he's been a goal line package blocking role player his
Speaker 1: entire career. He got eight snaps the other night. And
Speaker 1: then there's Cole Hikutini, who's been in the league since
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and if he's ever spent time on an
Speaker 1: active roster, it's not a long time, like, you're just
Speaker 1: not You're not looking at a lot in the way
Speaker 1: of proven experience, and it's awfully scary. It sounds like
Speaker 1: they're not going to do anything about it this week, which,
Speaker 1: to be fair, you know, a guy that you signed
Speaker 1: today probably wouldn't even be able to get in the
Speaker 1: building until like Friday. So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how you go through a whole
Speaker 1: season with that as your tight end. Corps Hamber, what
Speaker 1: do you do a tight end? I agree with everything
Speaker 1: that Dave said. I don't see the Cowboys getting Walker
Speaker 1: right now. The Cowboys are just not And again, we
Speaker 1: have a whole new coaching staff, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what McCarthy's input is and all this, but I just
Speaker 1: don't see the Cowboys making that move right now. But
Speaker 1: I do think that they absolutely need to address it.
Speaker 1: There is not much talent and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: hate on all the tight ends that the Cowboys currently have,
Speaker 1: but honestly, no one has done anything that it's exciting
Speaker 1: or that I would say, and Collie continued, would be
Speaker 1: the only one from that list that I felt that
Speaker 1: I saw making more plays during training camp. But then again,
Speaker 1: that was like, okay, a guy to have as in
Speaker 1: the death chart and as a practice squad player to
Speaker 1: help out, not even to talk about like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: have him start in a game. So I just don't know.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna have to change their game plan on
Speaker 1: this and try to and I know we're about to
Speaker 1: get into that, Derek, but they just need to change
Speaker 1: it up and figure out a different type of personnel here.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Nick, why don't you tell me would
Speaker 1: you consider the possibility of am I boring you? No? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm trying not to cough it. I didn't hear it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: off at all? All right, boy, I'm getting nervous, all right,
Speaker 1: um glass here, So no, would you consider the possibility,
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys of maybe just using the tight
Speaker 1: end a lot less here and maybe going with more
Speaker 1: ten personnel or twenty personnel. You can get Poller on
Speaker 1: the field with Zeke with three wide receivers, or you
Speaker 1: can get you know, one running back and four wide
Speaker 1: receivers if you want to go that route. Would you
Speaker 1: look at that as a as a possibility and just
Speaker 1: kind of take tight end a little take a step
Speaker 1: back with the tight end and just not use them
Speaker 1: as much in this offense. Um, yeah, that's what you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do if if they don't, especially like
Speaker 1: for this week, like Dave said, you know, you really
Speaker 1: can't bring a guy in right now and expect them
Speaker 1: to do anything unless it was Hiccotini, but he was
Speaker 1: on your practice quite anyways, so you know, there's probably
Speaker 1: not a lot of confidence there. But I think you've
Speaker 1: got to get creative. We've already seen a little bit
Speaker 1: with the Antoine Woods putting him at fullback. Yeah, fat,
Speaker 1: that was a great idea two years ago, but I
Speaker 1: think that, sorry, you can do that kind of stuff. Though,
Speaker 1: there's defensive ends that do that. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears a couple like last year they had
Speaker 1: four different defensive players on a goal line thing. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find some players that can kind
Speaker 1: of help you, whether it maybe it's an extra offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: but guess what, that's a position that they're lacking of
Speaker 1: depth as well. But you just got to get creative
Speaker 1: with different packages on third downs and things like that.
Speaker 1: If it's not third and short and goal line, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you go with a different personnel groups
Speaker 1: and all that, but this is just a really weird,
Speaker 1: unique position where somebody could come in and leap frog
Speaker 1: all of the tight ends and actually start. Like when
Speaker 1: she was talking about Hiccotini, actually could see him starting.
Speaker 1: It's it's because that probably won't happen, but I could
Speaker 1: just see because that's the role of of of the
Speaker 1: other two guys keep their same role, and you need
Speaker 1: more of that pass catcher. All right, let's go and
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, I do
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about the offensive tackle position.
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Speaker 1: studios at the Star got Dave and Amber at their homes.
Speaker 1: He's making so many face and emoji every time he's
Speaker 1: got the face. It's just it's because I'm just staring
Speaker 1: at my own face for an hour and it feels weird.
Speaker 1: So I have to break up the monotony. You're just
Speaker 1: entertaining yourself. I guess, like every time I look over there,
Speaker 1: it looks like one of your emojis. He's got a
Speaker 1: hand face, he's got the like the eyeballs, you know,
Speaker 1: head explosion, not doing that one. I'm expressive. I'm expressing myself.
Speaker 1: One of these days when we don't have a lot
Speaker 1: on the docket to talk about. I'm gonna have Dave
Speaker 1: go back to his background and just kind of talk
Speaker 1: about all the different little relics he has back there
Speaker 1: and what significant stay whole, because it's actually pretty interesting
Speaker 1: when you start looking at it. A lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 1: And but did you do that painting behind you? Because
Speaker 1: you probably did, but I don't know. Maybe you think
Speaker 1: she has paintings of an internouse that she didn't do. No,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, very nice work. All right, let's
Speaker 1: jump back in. I do want to talk about Cam Irving.
Speaker 1: That's the last injury that we had to talk about
Speaker 1: from the game, offensive tackle. He's the backup. I guess
Speaker 1: we all kind of were surprised. I was surprised a
Speaker 1: little bit by that that he was the backup going
Speaker 1: into that game. Nick, tell me what his injury is
Speaker 1: and what they're thinking as far as the amount of
Speaker 1: time he's going to be out. Yeah, it didn't start.
Speaker 1: He played on kickoff I mean, I mean on the
Speaker 1: field goal team, so that fifty three yard field goal.
Speaker 1: He also he got hurt on that and it sprained
Speaker 1: himcl that's usually a two to four week they can
Speaker 1: put him on injured reserve to return if they wanted to. Um,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of options on the practice squad. Um.
Speaker 1: I forget the guy's name. Dave might know either. They
Speaker 1: picked him up from the Giants. He's a tackle, and
Speaker 1: of course there's another tackle on the practice squad as well.
Speaker 1: I couldn't pronounce it. Yeah, Isaac. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 1: think Isaac, which I would be shocked if Isaac is
Speaker 1: ready to play in a game right now now. Isaac
Speaker 1: needs I don't think he can. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if because of the program that he's in, he's
Speaker 1: able to like be eligible to play in a real
Speaker 1: game this year. Really, like what if? What if? They
Speaker 1: sounded like a badass? Yeah, just just to be clear
Speaker 1: what Amber's talking about there is he is a player
Speaker 1: from Mexico. There are four teams, I think it's all
Speaker 1: NFC East teams that all have a player from another country.
Speaker 1: And it's a part of the international program of starting
Speaker 1: to integrate players from other countries into the NFL. And
Speaker 1: so basically the Cowboys get a an exemption on their roster.
Speaker 1: He doesn't count on their roster, he's an extra guy,
Speaker 1: but it allows them to start integrating international players into
Speaker 1: the into the into the sport. But I would think
Speaker 1: they would just pigeonhole themselves of not being I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I don't know good enough to play, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm sure they could, you would think so. But I
Speaker 1: mean as long as you put him onto your active
Speaker 1: roster M in which he would count, then I don't
Speaker 1: think you would be able to put him on your
Speaker 1: active roster him be still an exemption. I think maybe
Speaker 1: he's just an exemption as a as a practice squad player.
Speaker 1: He travels. I mean I was surprised by that when
Speaker 1: I saw him. He was the first guy I saw
Speaker 1: actually traveling. He had his bag and everything, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, no offense to him, but I
Speaker 1: mean he's the seventeenth practice squad player I think. So
Speaker 1: I was like, well, if he's traveling, everybody's traveling, you know,
Speaker 1: and Dave and Amber, I get it, but you guys
Speaker 1: might be playing, right tackle. I mean, good point. Um, now,
Speaker 1: I just I just that's my point is that that's
Speaker 1: why everyone's like, well, you know, this guy's out there,
Speaker 1: I mean, Ron Larry's out there, and the Lady Walker's
Speaker 1: out there, and these guys are out there. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's why there's sixteen practice card players, that's why
Speaker 1: they travel, that's why there's these different rules, because that's
Speaker 1: not really a great option. So the key is just
Speaker 1: don't have two or three main injuries on week one.
Speaker 1: Just don't do that. Try not to try not to
Speaker 1: have that happen. Yeah, you know, let's let's talk about
Speaker 1: the guy who did start, Terrence Steele. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not one that puts everything into Pro Football Focus, but
Speaker 1: there was a report that came out yesterday that on
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus this week, Terrence Steele was listed as
Speaker 1: second worst offensive tackle throughout the entire league as far
Speaker 1: as how he graded in his performance this game. So
Speaker 1: I want to go with you. Guys, y'all tell me
Speaker 1: what do you think based upon what you saw from
Speaker 1: Terren Steele. I'm assuming you went back and even watched
Speaker 1: some of the game. What are your thoughts on Terrence
Speaker 1: Steele and how he performed? Dave, let's go with you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on the All twenty two from NFL
Speaker 1: game pass, So TikTok, NFL. Some of us have jobs
Speaker 1: to do, But I mean, just from watching the game,
Speaker 1: and then going back and watching it on DVR, which
Speaker 1: don't try to judge offensive line play from TV copy.
Speaker 1: But he didn't root like, he didn't wreck the offense
Speaker 1: like they couldn't they they didn't have to change what
Speaker 1: they were doing because he was so bad. And for
Speaker 1: a guy starting his first NFL game against I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Aaron Donald doesn't play over there, but against
Speaker 1: a pretty decent front seven, like, I thought he was fine. Honestly, um,
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that he grated out low that that's
Speaker 1: not shocking to me. But like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: not to bring up Jazz Green for the ten million time,
Speaker 1: but once you've seen that, everything else looks better. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel. I guess Amber, would
Speaker 1: you think that's exactly how I always judge offensive lineman
Speaker 1: now is game? Yes? Uh no, I am. I agree
Speaker 1: with they've Honestly, I don't think he did a horrible job.
Speaker 1: Now that's not to say that I don't think that
Speaker 1: the position needs help. I do think they need to
Speaker 1: add some depth there and hopefully you step up the game.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I thought that the game
Speaker 1: could have gone a lot worse. I thought Dad could
Speaker 1: have been struggling a lot more throughout the game, and
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. He honestly played better than my expectations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Chaz Green has become a verb,
Speaker 1: Like I saw that on Twitter, like, well, he didn't
Speaker 1: really Chaz Green the game, like you know, like that's
Speaker 1: that was like a reference there. But he didn't seem
Speaker 1: like you're right, I mean, this didn't seem like it
Speaker 1: was that bad. Well you didn't notice it, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'll kind of disagree with a little bit what Dave
Speaker 1: said when he said Aaron Donald doesn't play over there.
Speaker 1: Well he does, though, he does because you have to
Speaker 1: atone for him in the middle. There's no it's hard
Speaker 1: to double team the outside when you've got to deal
Speaker 1: with him. He is such a problem on the inside,
Speaker 1: so you know, and then you lose your tight end
Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of chipping going on there
Speaker 1: and you don't have a fullback. So he was put
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, lyle Collins needed to be out there,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and we're also forgetting that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's only two more games of this. So I talked
Speaker 1: to Terrence after the game, and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: he admitted that he struggled a lot there early on,
Speaker 1: he was really nervous, but then he settled down. Then
Speaker 1: he had that play at the end. But I think
Speaker 1: Brandon Knight is a better option. I consider Brandon Knight
Speaker 1: to be a bar you know, like he's like a
Speaker 1: bar fight type of guy. You know, he's just gonna
Speaker 1: go in there and just brawl, and it reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of Colombo. And I think he is
Speaker 1: just such a competitor. You know. I would like to
Speaker 1: see him do it, because we've seen him play before
Speaker 1: and I think he would be okay over there. Do
Speaker 1: you guys think that maybe the Cowboys should consider going
Speaker 1: with a more nuclear type option and look at somebody
Speaker 1: like I know we talked to Connor Williams hasn't done it,
Speaker 1: but should they look at that knowing that right now,
Speaker 1: you look at the fact that still didn't play a
Speaker 1: great game. You look at the fact that you're tight end,
Speaker 1: you're starting tight end is now out, so you're you're
Speaker 1: gonna have Sholtz on the field probably more, which he's
Speaker 1: not a great blocker. And you look at the fact
Speaker 1: that that cam irving is now also gonna be out
Speaker 1: for a while. Do you think maybe the Cowboys need
Speaker 1: to start reconsidering and saying, Okay, right now, you got
Speaker 1: Connor Williams at guard, You got Connor McGovern sitting on
Speaker 1: your bench at guard. You got Brandon Brandon McKnight, brand
Speaker 1: Brandon Knight sitting on your bench as a guard as well.
Speaker 1: Maybe you ought to think about maybe moving one of
Speaker 1: those guards, maybe Connor Williams, because he's done it before,
Speaker 1: to tackle, and and maybe put McGovern in there to
Speaker 1: play guard. You think maybe they should look at it
Speaker 1: like that. I know if we've been talking about Connor
Speaker 1: making that transition for like a year and a half
Speaker 1: or so, but how quickly can you actually get a
Speaker 1: player like him to make a transition like that to
Speaker 1: tacklino who played it back college. But it's been a
Speaker 1: while and the NFL is completely different than college. So
Speaker 1: that's my question for you guys, hopefully no better than me,
Speaker 1: how quickly we're going to a player like that and
Speaker 1: make a transition. If they were going to do that,
Speaker 1: then it should have been an active plan during the
Speaker 1: offseason and training camp, like he should have been mixing
Speaker 1: and matching and getting reps and you know, we don't
Speaker 1: see everything, but I never saw that. It didn't look
Speaker 1: like they were interested in doing it. Connor's been playing
Speaker 1: nothing but left guard in a game week situation, and
Speaker 1: get you know, they're already they're already knee deep in
Speaker 1: the game planning for Atlanta. It seems so unfair to
Speaker 1: me to ask him to do that on five days
Speaker 1: notice and then expect him to be good at it.
Speaker 1: And I know he did it in college, but college
Speaker 1: was already a long time ago for him. Let's take
Speaker 1: that out of the mix. Because I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: necessarily make that move this week. What I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: should they start that transition process now? Should they start
Speaker 1: in practice start working with him to see if maybe
Speaker 1: you give him some reps to play it at right
Speaker 1: tackle and just give yourself a little more or flexibility
Speaker 1: as you go down the road and maybe this is
Speaker 1: a move that happens week five or week six. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, do they need to start thinking about some
Speaker 1: bigger planned options because right now I just don't feel
Speaker 1: great about the right tackle position. You know, like I said,
Speaker 1: though Lyle Collins, is I mean, if we're talking about
Speaker 1: Sean Lee in two weeks. Lyle Collins is two more
Speaker 1: games and he's eligible to come back. So do we
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be ready to go by them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would think so, okay, I do think that he
Speaker 1: would be ready to go. And also, you know the
Speaker 1: weird part about you're talking about Connor Williams moving is that?
Speaker 1: Is that the guy that replaces him at guard? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it McGovern who's never played a game? Is it?
Speaker 1: Joe Looney says steal though, well but still has he's
Speaker 1: played one game? Yeah, okay, we already saw that wasn't great,
Speaker 1: so just say it. And Brandon Knight has played too.
Speaker 1: So I mean, either you put Looney over there and
Speaker 1: be honest, is in there who's never played a game?
Speaker 1: I mean, like you just don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of options. I get your point about long
Speaker 1: term things, but you know, it's not like they practice
Speaker 1: four hours. I mean you have to the continuity is
Speaker 1: so important that he's they've got to get in there.
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of options. I mean, I
Speaker 1: hate to say the words next man up, but I
Speaker 1: mean it has to be something like that. I get
Speaker 1: all of that, well, I just think right now, you
Speaker 1: look at your tackle position, you look at Lyle being
Speaker 1: out right now and hopefully comes back in two weeks.
Speaker 1: But we all have agreed that with Tyron you just
Speaker 1: never know, right. So the likelihood that you're gonna get
Speaker 1: through this whole season and Tyron's gonna play sixteen games,
Speaker 1: if you look at his history, you're probably betting on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of that, right, So you better have
Speaker 1: some other options at tackling right now. I don't know
Speaker 1: that they have other options, better options at tackle. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm with Nick for the record, I don't.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's right. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is a Joe Philbin thing that
Speaker 1: he looked at Brandon Knight and said he's a guard,
Speaker 1: not a tackle, because he was a right tackle in college.
Speaker 1: He was pretty damn good at it in Indiana, made
Speaker 1: the team as an undraft did rookie had to start
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys last year, And you know, I'd have
Speaker 1: to go back and watch it, but I feel confident
Speaker 1: saying he played better when he was out there than
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele did the other night. So I don't really
Speaker 1: get it. That would be, you know, if you're not
Speaker 1: satisfied with Terrence Steele, that would be my go to,
Speaker 1: and then hope for the best with Lyell. Don't. I
Speaker 1: don't get the Connor thing at all, because like everybody
Speaker 1: dogs Connor for being the weak link of the offensive line.
Speaker 1: So you move him out to a new position that
Speaker 1: he's never played because he was a left tackle in college,
Speaker 1: and then we have no idea what Connor McGovern is either.
Speaker 1: For that matter, I hope he's a good player, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. So it just sounds like you're weakening
Speaker 1: two positions because you're scared of one in my opinion.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna do. We're gonna go and
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about this DAK report to
Speaker 1: support on Dak's contract and some of the negotiations that
Speaker 1: were going on around that, and get your opinions on
Speaker 1: if it is true, whether you think the Cowboys made
Speaker 1: a good decision. Well do that when we come right.
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Speaker 1: nice all right? Final segment of the break off from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about this DAK report that came out yesterday.
Speaker 1: Basically what it said was at the Cowboys, in their
Speaker 1: negotiations over the off season with Dak and his people,
Speaker 1: turned down an offer a counteroffer from Dak's side that said,
Speaker 1: basically it was going to be a five year deal.
Speaker 1: It would average about thirty five million a year, which
Speaker 1: the money and the years sound like what we've heard
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would actually be in favor of. But there
Speaker 1: was one little caveat to it that I want to
Speaker 1: get your opinions on. Supposedly the caveat was at the
Speaker 1: Cowboys back dat is that they would not be able
Speaker 1: to use the franchise tag on DAC once that contract
Speaker 1: was done. Now, I don't know if that was true.
Speaker 1: We haven't heard that from the Cowboys, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, assuming I want to ask, assuming that that
Speaker 1: is accurate, did the Cowboys make a wise decision there
Speaker 1: to not give up the franchise tag but get everything
Speaker 1: else that they wanted in that deal? Nick will start
Speaker 1: with you, I don't know. I don't that there sources
Speaker 1: involved in that and that report. Yeah, it's always means
Speaker 1: that just doesn't seem like that would be the sticking
Speaker 1: point there, and I wouldn't know that it makes there
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me, because I just think
Speaker 1: when you look at the franchise, that's your leverage. If
Speaker 1: you don't have leverage, you have no negotiating power. If
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback, that's good none. Okay, but we're
Speaker 1: talking about him in his tenth year of his career
Speaker 1: at this point. Now I get it, Breezes, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's an outstanding I mean, the great
Speaker 1: winds do they last that long? But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I don't like I mean, personally, I don't
Speaker 1: like speculating on a report that from a source that
Speaker 1: who knows if they got all that information right, if
Speaker 1: it's right. I just I wouldn't think that would be
Speaker 1: the sticking point. Not for me. At least, thirty five
Speaker 1: seems like a good number for what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: If that was the only thing, that doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: that would be the wise thing for the Cowboys. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's more to it than that. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, Camber. I'm still trying to wrap my head
Speaker 1: and like process this whole thing. I don't really get
Speaker 1: why that would be the breaking point of a contract
Speaker 1: or getting a deal done here and for a guy
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott, who I don't see him planning his
Speaker 1: future for that long, But then again, you just never know.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are starting to get long
Speaker 1: term contract deals with a lot of money, and I
Speaker 1: get why you wouldn't want to necessarily be franch franchise
Speaker 1: tagged again. But at the same time, that is just
Speaker 1: something that I find hard to believe as far as
Speaker 1: that being the real reason as to why a contract
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten done or didn't get done. Dave, I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to throw too much shade
Speaker 1: because it's hard to reach the top of this industry
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely not the most plugged in reporter in
Speaker 1: the world. But I know the source. I know where
Speaker 1: this is coming from, and I don't necessarily trust the
Speaker 1: track record there. You know, there's there's a handful of
Speaker 1: people that report NFL news who I think are rock solid.
Speaker 1: They're very rarely wrong, and this is not one of
Speaker 1: those people. So take you know, so right off the bat,
Speaker 1: I'm taking what I'm hearing with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: I guess it makes sense because, yeah, I mean, Nick
Speaker 1: kind of alluded to it with Drew Brees and Tom Brady. Like,
Speaker 1: once quarterbacks get into that stage of their career, you
Speaker 1: kind of need the franchise tag just to hammer things out,
Speaker 1: you know, Like Breeze has been going year to year forever,
Speaker 1: so as you know, Brady does it all the time.
Speaker 1: So I understand why the Cowboys would be reluctant. But
Speaker 1: isn't it like six and one half a dozen of
Speaker 1: the other Like by not agreeing to the deal, like
Speaker 1: you can get him locked in on a deal that's
Speaker 1: going to save you money, and he might take you
Speaker 1: to the cleaners five years from now, but and that sucks.
Speaker 1: But by not doing that, he's going to take you
Speaker 1: to the cleaners right now, which is when you need
Speaker 1: the space because that's how the roster is constructed. Also,
Speaker 1: the cap is about to be in flux. Like I
Speaker 1: would not have turned that down if I were the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If this is true, I get their reluctance. I do
Speaker 1: understand it, but I think I would have just said
Speaker 1: let future cowboys, let that be somebody else's problem five
Speaker 1: or six years from now. Yeah, you know, that's an
Speaker 1: interesting point, Dave. I didn't think about it like that
Speaker 1: that you're kind of going to get screwed here now
Speaker 1: or later. The one that I will say, though, is
Speaker 1: I do think the term you use take them to
Speaker 1: the cleaners. I don't think he's taken them to the
Speaker 1: cleaners this year. I don't think you'll take him to
Speaker 1: the cleaners next year, because they could still franchise him. Again,
Speaker 1: that's that's right, But but you get my point, Like
Speaker 1: I think that I think they probably felt like giving
Speaker 1: up that leverage in the future is not worth that
Speaker 1: right now, because again, let's assume for a second, right now,
Speaker 1: in the negotiations they didn't have a franchise tag. If
Speaker 1: they didn't have a franchise tag, they had no leverage.
Speaker 1: DAC would have said either you pay me this, or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the free agent market and somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna pay me that, right, And I think that's where
Speaker 1: if you got a player that, particularly a quarterback position.
Speaker 1: You know, again, we're basing a lot on the fact
Speaker 1: that this report is accurate, and it may or may not.
Speaker 1: It's more for conjecture and our fun of having the conversation.
Speaker 1: But assuming that it is somewhat accurate, then the way
Speaker 1: I look at it is, if I'm the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: probably would have done the same thing. I'm passing on
Speaker 1: anything that takes away my right to to use a
Speaker 1: franchise tag on a quarterback because I just know how
Speaker 1: how much in demand quarterbacks are, and there's somebody out
Speaker 1: there that's willing to pay even a good quarterback great
Speaker 1: quarterback money. Yeah, this is a tough one for me.
Speaker 1: And every time I say anything negative towards Dak, I
Speaker 1: get a lot of people that think I'm this Dak
Speaker 1: hater and I'm not. I mean, I think he is
Speaker 1: your He's the guy you go to war with. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the guy that should be the captain every single game,
Speaker 1: the one that stands out there as long as he,
Speaker 1: you know, says clearly to the RAF heads or tails
Speaker 1: or what they want to do, you know, there's no
Speaker 1: issue there. But he's your captain. He's your captain all
Speaker 1: the way. I still just wonder what happens if we
Speaker 1: play this season and he can and this team doesn't
Speaker 1: meet expectations and they don't win close games. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to help him. And I
Speaker 1: would have if I was him, I would have got
Speaker 1: a deal done. I just would have. I would have
Speaker 1: done whatever I could get a deal done. But because
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think it's gonna work. I don't
Speaker 1: think his asking price because I've seen people say, well,
Speaker 1: his price just went up, you know, because of what
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson did. His price just went up. What if
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Well, but I think when you're looking around
Speaker 1: the league right now, at least after week one, at
Speaker 1: least after week one, I don't think Dak looked like
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the same category with Deshaun Watson. Like
Speaker 1: that's my point, Like I do kind of agree with
Speaker 1: what people are saying that as this thing goes on,
Speaker 1: I think Dak's gonna he has all the weapons for
Speaker 1: him to be a really good quarterback. I think the
Speaker 1: wheels would have to fall completely off for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: not to feel like they want to go back at
Speaker 1: and take another bite at the apple. Like, I just
Speaker 1: don't think so. At the least, he's gonna get that
Speaker 1: franchise tag next year and make thirty eight million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's the very least I think that, So that the
Speaker 1: price has already gone up, right, So that's where I
Speaker 1: look at it and say, yeah, the price is gonna
Speaker 1: go up. But I also think and you even heard
Speaker 1: Steven say it on his comments. You know, they know
Speaker 1: that Dak bet on himself, and they know Dak probably
Speaker 1: one and probably earned some money by betting on himself.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the way the negotiations had to go.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you get in those situations based upon the negotiations.
Speaker 1: You just have to go that route. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what happened here. Or if he gets hurt, it
Speaker 1: would have to be a huge, like the kind of
Speaker 1: injury that you don't know if he can come back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Bridgewater situation. Yeah, yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I and I and I see that's go ahead, Dave.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry nick I, Derek, you kind of just laid out.
Speaker 1: My point though, is like I just I don't see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys having a ton of leverage in this situation
Speaker 1: unless they are willing to part ways with Dakichi think,
Speaker 1: but here's here's the right and and sorry he's let
Speaker 1: me say this. Here here's it. Okay, David Studio. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to go back at this. This is tough. Um.
Speaker 1: I said this before on a show with David rob
Speaker 1: that the uh, the Texans have a different plan than
Speaker 1: than let's say, the Cowboys do. They are they want
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to be their guy because they had a
Speaker 1: star wide receiver that they traded away and and that
Speaker 1: look already looks like a bad decisions. They don't have
Speaker 1: the Zach Martin Tyrant Smith type of deal. They aren't saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna build this thing around the Sean. They're saying,
Speaker 1: the Sean is our main guy, number one. We're gonna
Speaker 1: pay him for sure, and we'll figure everything else out.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys aren't doing it that way. So not yet,
Speaker 1: not yet, at whatever point. And this is what you
Speaker 1: look at the league. This is what happens. The moment
Speaker 1: you pay that quarterback that big contract is the moment
Speaker 1: you're saying, we're gonna have to start cutting back on
Speaker 1: the talent that we have in other places because the
Speaker 1: salary cap just doesn't work. Sorry, I love Dak, He's
Speaker 1: not good enough as a quarterback to do that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He isn't. Which he is, that's the big question. I
Speaker 1: don't believe he's the guy that can just go win
Speaker 1: the game and not have a lot of help. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're going to go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out with him. But but
Speaker 1: I mean, so we don't have to go to these
Speaker 1: world class cleaners. You guys are talking about, Dave, Where
Speaker 1: were you going this? Nick? Nick doesn't realize it, but
Speaker 1: he's kind of making. My point for me is that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's fine. If you don't think Dak is
Speaker 1: that guy, that's fine. If you're the Cowboys. The hope
Speaker 1: is that you got this deal done a long time
Speaker 1: ago so that it becomes a bargain and you can
Speaker 1: help prepare yourself for the next iteration of this roster.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't sign Russell Wilson the first time when
Speaker 1: he was the guy. They signed him and it eased
Speaker 1: into that transition where he became the guy. So think
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, you know, Tyrn Smith is nearing
Speaker 1: you know, he's closer to the end of his career
Speaker 1: than the beginning. Zach Martin is turning thirty if he's
Speaker 1: not already thirty like, and Dak is just getting more expensive.
Speaker 1: So if you tell me that I could have him
Speaker 1: at thirty five a year when it's gonna definitely cost
Speaker 1: me thirty eight next year or maybe forty two. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get the cheaper deal, and we'll worry about
Speaker 1: franchising him later or not franchising him if we have to.
Speaker 1: But Dak being more expensive as you have to let
Speaker 1: these older players transition out of your roster, is not
Speaker 1: going to help you. The goal is to have him
Speaker 1: taking up as little of the cap percentage as possible,
Speaker 1: and I would have done whatever I had to do
Speaker 1: to make that happen, even if it means I gotta
Speaker 1: pay for it later. And that's like, I think it
Speaker 1: is going to be hard for them to keep a
Speaker 1: good roster around him with the way that they've decided
Speaker 1: to do this. Yeah, I mean, I mean, and I
Speaker 1: think more of Dak than Nick does. But that's fine. Well,
Speaker 1: like we can disagree on that all day, respectfully, but
Speaker 1: they're not doing themselves any favor with the way that
Speaker 1: they're trying to allocate this cap space. I just think
Speaker 1: that he's not in the category of you know, he's
Speaker 1: the guy. And then because to me, I've always thought
Speaker 1: Zeke is the best player on your team. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is the guy. And when they were winning as
Speaker 1: a rookie, I believe it was because of what they
Speaker 1: were able to do with that offensive line in Zeke again,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to go back with what I
Speaker 1: just said. I think I think Dak is a leader
Speaker 1: of this team. He is the guy front and center
Speaker 1: you want him to that. He is as tough as nails.
Speaker 1: He's a tough player that plays quarterback and you don't
Speaker 1: hear that all the time, but I just think he
Speaker 1: needs help around him so and I want him to
Speaker 1: understand that. I think I think he does. He need.
Speaker 1: He can't break the bank here, and if it means
Speaker 1: that they're they're going to go out and you know
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be trading away. They're not going to trade
Speaker 1: away Ceedee Lamb in three years for a bag of
Speaker 1: chips like the like the Texans did. The one thing
Speaker 1: I will say is you didn't see Russell Wilson become
Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback that can do it without having
Speaker 1: great pieces around him until he was asked to do
Speaker 1: it without him having great pieces around him. And so
Speaker 1: even though even though the assumption right now would be
Speaker 1: Decks maybe not that kind of quarterback, they've not asked
Speaker 1: that of him, even he's only been here when he's
Speaker 1: had great pieces around him. I do think though, that
Speaker 1: that they have to project that and if they're gonna
Speaker 1: do the long term deal, they have to know that
Speaker 1: as it goes with all these quarterbacks, once you pay
Speaker 1: him that big deal, it's going to then effect the
Speaker 1: rest of your rock. Well, I know, this is one game,
Speaker 1: and I'll get David Amber's opinion on this. The Jets. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Jets game, you didn't have Amari Cooper. Not sure
Speaker 1: why he wasn't out there, Tyrant Smith wasn't there. Maybe
Speaker 1: Lyell Collins too well. But I mean, they didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of help around them, and they got beat
Speaker 1: by a really bad football team. And I wasn't saying
Speaker 1: it's all because of him, But it's games like that
Speaker 1: that could be an example of how it could be.
Speaker 1: If it's all going to be about, you know, the
Speaker 1: quarterback with us, we can have a separate we could
Speaker 1: have a separate conversation about how good we think Dak is.
Speaker 1: My point is, if they had played this differently, they
Speaker 1: would be halfway through the deal already. And again, it's
Speaker 1: a more graceful transition, whereas now you're probably in a
Speaker 1: situation where you're going to have to decide whether or
Speaker 1: not Dak is worth it as you start to lose
Speaker 1: the players that make him so successful, Like Amar's only
Speaker 1: guaranteed for two more seasons again, Tyrn Smith, We'll see
Speaker 1: how much longer he wants to play. He's probably never
Speaker 1: going to be as amazing as he was from twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen to twenty sixteen. I just I wish that they
Speaker 1: had it. Doesn't seem like they thought about the long
Speaker 1: term future with this, in my opinion. But we're here now,
Speaker 1: so it's going to be it's going to be an
Speaker 1: ever evolving storyline because until the Cowboys get a long
Speaker 1: term deal done with him, there's gonna be this kind
Speaker 1: of speculation that's out there, and it's gonna be this
Speaker 1: kind of talk that's out there. So it is what
Speaker 1: it is. We appreciate you guys. John Us will be
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