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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up, Cowboys Nation, Welcome
Speaker 1: into Talking Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Happy Wednesday
Speaker 1: to everybody. It's like a Thursday out here at the Star.
Speaker 1: Is it it is? Once again? We don't know what
Speaker 1: day it is because the Cowboys have a Saturday game
Speaker 1: once again. Cowboys rams big time matchup Divisional Round of
Speaker 1: the NFC Playoffs at the LA Coliseum Saturday night, seven
Speaker 1: team pm Central kickoff, and we're gonna have a big
Speaker 1: show again today breaking it all down with my buddy
Speaker 1: Brian brought us. Good morning, sir morning. Mickey Spagnola will
Speaker 1: be joining us shortly. Bill Jones has his TV duties today,
Speaker 1: but we have Kent Garrison producing next door as always,
Speaker 1: and welcome as well to our guys on periscope as
Speaker 1: well that are kind of falling along. Yes, I've kind
Speaker 1: of felt I've found that as my new little fun
Speaker 1: thing to hang out with at the show and my periscope,
Speaker 1: folks see what they're talking about. It's not always a
Speaker 1: toast city. It's it's one of those things where you
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of get an idea what they're
Speaker 1: thinking too. Yeah, you know, and we're trying to be
Speaker 1: fan friendly on these programs and I'm always interested to
Speaker 1: see if if you know, I always like to see
Speaker 1: if we're reaching we reach into the listener, you know,
Speaker 1: so because despite what Mickey says, yeah, we fans drive
Speaker 1: the show. Fans, fans do a big part of the show.
Speaker 1: We appreciate the fans. We should do we should do it.
Speaker 1: Oh and there he is. Yeah, but no, you know this,
Speaker 1: you know you're one of the eight now, you know
Speaker 1: you kind of look at you. It gets closer and
Speaker 1: closer and closer, and you know you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out ways to uh, you know, when you're not playing
Speaker 1: bad teams. Now you know the the Arizona Cardinals are
Speaker 1: not showing up. I mean, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: This is a team that you know, you have to
Speaker 1: go out and there's a reason why they got to
Speaker 1: buy in the first round. And there's a reason why
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're gonna have to You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to play one of your best games. You're gonna absolutely
Speaker 1: have to play one of your best games to beat
Speaker 1: these guys. And I think the great thing about it,
Speaker 1: the fact is that you know you will have a
Speaker 1: road presence there. I think that helps. I think the
Speaker 1: road I think the home game last week really helped
Speaker 1: these players against you know, Seattle. I think the fans
Speaker 1: that are going to make the trip show up at
Speaker 1: the coliseum, the Southern California fans that have been so
Speaker 1: great to us over the years in Oxnard. Now the
Speaker 1: players feel that they understand that and it helps them
Speaker 1: to play that way. So by all means, go go
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, they laid the groundwork for this
Speaker 1: season about an hour north of the Colasseum Exam and
Speaker 1: we've talked. I mean, Jerry has you know, he's put
Speaker 1: that geographic footprint in the Southern California. Sure he has. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we've seen it in preseason games, Mick, where you
Speaker 1: know it's not fifty fifty, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: Navy blue and silver in the coliseum for a couple
Speaker 1: of those games we've we've covered I think they can
Speaker 1: turn this into a whiteout. That'd be funny if they could.
Speaker 1: They tried to do like a marketing campaign on it,
Speaker 1: because I read the Rams are gonna wear their throwback uniforms,
Speaker 1: go back to the old blue and gold or goler
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, which were the coolest uniforms. They
Speaker 1: won a lot of games in those uniforms. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: maybe the Cobway fans need to wear white to counteract
Speaker 1: the Rams colors. What do you think? Maybe? So? I
Speaker 1: bet they get twenty thousand fans there. They were, they
Speaker 1: were There were some ticket people that were projecting that
Speaker 1: this could be a seventy thirty game, that that the
Speaker 1: Southern California clubs out there as soon as as soon
Speaker 1: as the game went final in Chicago just started buying
Speaker 1: blocks of tickets. And people told me that if you
Speaker 1: were watching the tickets online, Yeah, the prices shot way
Speaker 1: up media because people knew the Loveway fans were gonna
Speaker 1: be buying tickets. We had a caller the other day
Speaker 1: it said it, you know, kind of a nosebleed ticket
Speaker 1: was four hundred bucks or something. I know some people
Speaker 1: that got flights from here two hundred bucks. And then
Speaker 1: when it and then when the game flipped, you know,
Speaker 1: when they knew the game and the price believe it
Speaker 1: or not, went up on the airline ticket or did
Speaker 1: they were only yeah, some people shame on the so
Speaker 1: people got some tickets for flights for two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: round trip to LA and then now it's you know,
Speaker 1: doubled that so well, you know, you feel we even
Speaker 1: feel it out here this week. I mean there's more
Speaker 1: media here. We've got some national media here. Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: did his Wednesday Tuesday Wednesday press conference and instead of
Speaker 1: the locker room, they had him outside, yeah, in kind
Speaker 1: of a podium setting, which it just there's a bigger
Speaker 1: feel to it this week, no question. Good for the
Speaker 1: La Times. They actually sent writers here. Sam Farmer was yeah, Sam, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was another guy. Maybe it was the Daily News.
Speaker 1: I bet the Morning News didn't send anybody to LA
Speaker 1: and the Morning News is scrambling around a little bit
Speaker 1: right now. So but that shows you how kind of
Speaker 1: big the game is, or at least how well the
Speaker 1: La Times is do and that they can do what
Speaker 1: we used to do twenty some years ago during the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's a huge game. See I mean, it's a huge game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the you know, it's important
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It's important for the Rams.
Speaker 1: It's important for your team too. Is you look at
Speaker 1: you know, with with Jason Garrett and you know, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and those guys. We keep talking about that, but
Speaker 1: they keep answering the bell. You know, they keep finding
Speaker 1: ways to win these games. And this is you know
Speaker 1: we talk about. Also you look at some teams around
Speaker 1: the league, some hot teams. Cults are one of the
Speaker 1: hottest teams in the league. Cowboys won eight games, eight
Speaker 1: out of the last nine. Man, it's hard to do.
Speaker 1: I mean we we went all went through it where
Speaker 1: they win eleven straight games, and how difficult that was.
Speaker 1: And now you get in the playoffs. You know, there's
Speaker 1: some things, there's some ways that the Cowboys matchup very
Speaker 1: well against these guys. Yeah, it's and you mentioned it,
Speaker 1: it's a big game for the Rams. Absolutely for Sean mcvayh.
Speaker 1: They made the playoffs last year. Yeah, got first round.
Speaker 1: It was a home game one the Visional game against
Speaker 1: the Falcons. They got beat. So now it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: now what can you do? Uh? Thirteen and three looks
Speaker 1: real pretty Yeah, but you got to produce in the playoffs. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it a division game of Wald card game,
Speaker 1: wal Bad bad first round game. Yeah, I had lost
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Atlanta came across the country and beat him. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and back. You know, last year, I think maybe people
Speaker 1: thought maybe they're y're ahead, you know, McVeigh, young coach,
Speaker 1: Goffe's young quarterback. But to Mickey's point, you win thirteen games,
Speaker 1: you're expected to win. Now, Oh, the Cowboys were two
Speaker 1: years ago, exact same thing, the same thing. You got
Speaker 1: two games at home, well well potentially yeah, to go
Speaker 1: get to a super Bowl. And but on the flip
Speaker 1: side for the Cowboys, we had a mail back question
Speaker 1: about this. No matter what happens Saturday, is this season
Speaker 1: considered a success. I think it is. Brian thinks it is.
Speaker 1: I think so. But I think when the players get
Speaker 1: this far and the coaches get this far, nothing short
Speaker 1: of a super Bowl I think is gonna satisfy people
Speaker 1: within this building because they feel like, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: so close at this point, I mean, from what they've
Speaker 1: been through. Now you've got it, like you said, final eight,
Speaker 1: you can see it in front of you you can,
Speaker 1: you're still playing. You know. That's the thing about it
Speaker 1: is there's you know, all these other teams that are
Speaker 1: sitting there watching you play now, and so that, yeah,
Speaker 1: the the the thing that bothers me, and it's so
Speaker 1: hard is the finality of it all when if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. But I mean, I don't know how you
Speaker 1: can say this season wasn't the success. But there's so
Speaker 1: much more to play for. Exactly, you win this game. Now,
Speaker 1: now you're sitting there thinking, Okay, now you're down to
Speaker 1: the final four and you're one game away from going
Speaker 1: to the the super Bowl, which is your ultimate goal. The
Speaker 1: ultimate goal is to go to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: win the super Bowl, but to seek out you know,
Speaker 1: you win this game, you play well against the Rams,
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens in New Orleans on sat on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then you and then you march on. You try
Speaker 1: and do your best to you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: God willing, you can win this game and and somehow
Speaker 1: Philadelphia manages to avenge a loss that they had earlier
Speaker 1: the year. I'll take my chances playing Philadelphia again in
Speaker 1: a home game here after what I've seen with these crowd,
Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely, I would you know, and if if
Speaker 1: Zeke is a barometer or the feeling on this team,
Speaker 1: you know, when he was asked yesterday about, oh, if
Speaker 1: you win this game, you'll be able to go to
Speaker 1: your first NFC title game, and he's like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: that's good, but he was basically saying, so what on
Speaker 1: history the goal is to get to this ultimate Yeah,
Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl? Yeah, And I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of the feeling on this team. So yeah, they'll
Speaker 1: be just a pointed if they lose. And if they lose,
Speaker 1: then all the people that have been picking on the
Speaker 1: head coach, the quarterback, this team all season long, we'll
Speaker 1: have fier to say. See, I told you, well, you
Speaker 1: can't you can't go there. I think you're wrong at
Speaker 1: this point. I think you have to be consistent. But
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that'll be what happens. Yeah. Oh they
Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't win another one. Well, this was a
Speaker 1: three and five team that very young, and let's not
Speaker 1: dismiss that. Yeah, to what they've accomplished here, and I
Speaker 1: think going forward from their confidence and just they're feeling
Speaker 1: about each other, then you come back next year with
Speaker 1: even more fire, I think. Yeah, well, big opportunity Saturday
Speaker 1: night to move on, keep going. Two two nine seven
Speaker 1: is the number if you'd like to join us over
Speaker 1: the next hour, and we're going to dive into some
Speaker 1: matchups here, Yeah, where kind of strength on strength, Where
Speaker 1: where these teams are maybe advantage over the two at
Speaker 1: certain situations. Absolutely, before we get there, Mick got another
Speaker 1: practice today. They were outside yesterday. They're gonna be outside today,
Speaker 1: are they? I saw the grass and weather all right,
Speaker 1: and sun grass weather and sun five sixty degrees. It's
Speaker 1: really not that much different here right now. This is
Speaker 1: today is what you're gonna play in on set. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, what's the injury situation looking
Speaker 1: right like right now? Well, they had a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that didn't practice. I don't know if they were
Speaker 1: hurt to the point where they couldn't practice, but maybe
Speaker 1: it was to the benefit not to work these guys
Speaker 1: to make sure you get them to Saturday. Maybe MALIEK
Speaker 1: Collins ankle, Blake Jarwin ankle, Yeah, I was I heard
Speaker 1: also the illness part. Can the illness college Collins got sick?
Speaker 1: Noah Brown was yet? Yeah, Yeah, so guys doing that
Speaker 1: right now. And then Cole Beasley. I think they're just
Speaker 1: trying to make sure that they get them to Saturday.
Speaker 1: They know Cole Beasley can play when he has to play.
Speaker 1: And you know what, not a bad thing for Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin to get a bunch of reps in the slot.
Speaker 1: Not a not a bad thing at all, you know.
Speaker 1: And even though he hadn't practice very much, he was limited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Absolutely, it's fine. Just get him to get
Speaker 1: him to the game. I think all those guys that
Speaker 1: they had limited, they just want to make sure they
Speaker 1: get to the game. And including some of those guys
Speaker 1: that did not practice. Um, you know, even Sue Philo
Speaker 1: was limited to Jason yeah, kind of indicating he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna preciate. But I was talking to some folks, Mickey's
Speaker 1: right about this. Sue Philo practiced. Yeah, you know. And
Speaker 1: what you know, what they figured out about Sua Philo
Speaker 1: that he has to practice, whether it's limited, whether it's
Speaker 1: five reps, ten reps, fifty whatever reps. He can't go
Speaker 1: three days without practicing and expect to play. And they
Speaker 1: know that, and you know what, and I think he
Speaker 1: knows that, and so for him to get out there
Speaker 1: with you know, with some Tyrn Smith and you know,
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams. You know, Connor Williams played well in
Speaker 1: that game the other day. You know, I've been kind
Speaker 1: of answering questions on Twitter and the mornings that I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, they would the gut, my gut
Speaker 1: feeling says they would go back to Sue Philo. I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure. I'm not so sure. I probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: have probably shouldn't have jumped out there like that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna jump out there like that. And
Speaker 1: you know, if if Sua Philo can't answer the bell
Speaker 1: the right way, they the way that needs to be answered,
Speaker 1: Connor Williams will get that start. But I need to
Speaker 1: see today, and I need to see Friday with the situation,
Speaker 1: and then thirst what day we well Wednesday, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: real quick. On Suefilo, I think it was the Philly
Speaker 1: game in early December where he played through an ankle,
Speaker 1: but he clearly wasn't himself. No and no practice time either.
Speaker 1: They know that that's that's a problem. So yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it's a functionality thing. And and then the other thing is,
Speaker 1: you know, if nothing else, if he can at least
Speaker 1: be available as the backup guy, yeah, instead of Redmond, Right,
Speaker 1: then you know Redmond backup center. Right. But maybe he's
Speaker 1: ready to go because you got you know, I mean
Speaker 1: Zack Martin's still not clear. I mean that that knees.
Speaker 1: You know he'll play, he'll play with a brace on,
Speaker 1: but he's still you know, any any play he could
Speaker 1: ding it any Okay, just throwing this out there, guys,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go a little long, and I mean
Speaker 1: long by uh you know a Redman light guy or
Speaker 1: a Lenor light guy, where do you go long receiver?
Speaker 1: Where do you go long at offensive line? I think
Speaker 1: you gotta keep eight offensive lineman, don't you. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you got so many guys banged up at the receiver spot.
Speaker 1: When you talk about Beasley Austin, Well, then you go
Speaker 1: short on a pass rusher and a linebacker. Yeah, el
Speaker 1: Dorance Armstrong was inactive against Seattle. Yeah, yeah, I'm because
Speaker 1: if you're if you think active, Coco can play, then yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a play him. Yeah, Shaun Lee he got
Speaker 1: four snaps offensively. Yeah. That was a surprise, wasn't it. Oh?
Speaker 1: I th I threw it out there too. And I
Speaker 1: threw it out there thinking that Shaun Lee played so
Speaker 1: well against Seattle on Week three that you'd want him
Speaker 1: on the field. And you know the long run they have.
Speaker 1: He got blocked, he couldn't get off the block. But
Speaker 1: the next very next play he's sprint into the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's right there for the tackle for loss.
Speaker 1: For that Gregory had, you know, And but that was
Speaker 1: kind of it. Jason Garrett kind of explained it as
Speaker 1: they wanted to get him a series here and there,
Speaker 1: Vanders saying, go long on the line, go on along
Speaker 1: on the line. Yeah, well that makes sense. But they
Speaker 1: only had I think twenty two defensive snaps in the
Speaker 1: first half was Seattle, and it just kind of got
Speaker 1: the flow of the game got him and then they
Speaker 1: rolled with Vander esh and Smith yea in the second
Speaker 1: forty eight plays right, something like that. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: long number of play. Fifty five was fifty five in
Speaker 1: the fifties, I believe that's what it didn't I thought.
Speaker 1: I looked at the sheet and it said forty eight
Speaker 1: for some reason, I don't know why. Well in the
Speaker 1: line too, you don't want to get in a situation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of games ago where they were
Speaker 1: down to their last linemen. Yeah, because I think Souefieldo
Speaker 1: got hurt right game, so right, Yeah, but receiver too.
Speaker 1: You got to keep an eye on Beasley this week
Speaker 1: and see how functional he can be. Yeah, we split
Speaker 1: the difference fifty two play fifty two. There you go,
Speaker 1: something like that, all right. Dak Prescott on the on
Speaker 1: the injury report, by the way, full participant with a knee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't miss any snaps. I mean fine, just something
Speaker 1: got banged up a little bit. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: get to feelings. I asked somebody afterwards and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: I just took every rep, so I didn't see maybe
Speaker 1: too many somersaults. Yeah, if you're listening, just audio Mickey
Speaker 1: made a dismissive hand gesture wave like, don't worry about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: QB one will be ready to go Saturday. Um, you'd
Speaker 1: have to tie him down to play in this game.
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Same thing would Beasley. Same
Speaker 1: thing with MALIEK. Collins. Oh, I think it's his time
Speaker 1: of year. You don't want to miss. You don't want
Speaker 1: to miss playoff games. We talked about this a long
Speaker 1: time ago. Fifteen years of Jason Witten's career. How many
Speaker 1: playoff games he play in? Not as many as he
Speaker 1: not as many as he wanted. Yeah, there's guys that
Speaker 1: are playing a far more layoff games. You know, the
Speaker 1: Jason Witton does not have a lot of playoff stats.
Speaker 1: And so if you think you're going to come back
Speaker 1: every year, you know, you know you want to. You
Speaker 1: want to get out there when you can, There's no
Speaker 1: question about that. It's on that note. The Rams injury
Speaker 1: report looks pretty light. I think there's three guys on it,
Speaker 1: and one of them's Todd Gurley. Yeah as limited, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is probably his first limited in three weeks. Expect
Speaker 1: the best of Todd Gurley in this game. I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about rust or anything with him. I have a
Speaker 1: feeling that Sean McVay is going to try and ride him. Now.
Speaker 1: They have to be a little bit concerned about Dallas's
Speaker 1: run defense, you know, they have to be a little concerned.
Speaker 1: This is a push shove offensive line. They got some size,
Speaker 1: but they're pushhove guys, and I mean push shove you
Speaker 1: get it into and they're not like the Colts to
Speaker 1: climb you and then drive you. They're like they get
Speaker 1: into it and they push you where and then that
Speaker 1: and then Gurley, very hesitant, hesitants goes through the ghost
Speaker 1: line reminds me very much of Eric Dickerson. And I
Speaker 1: know it's a ram to a ram. Wow, but you
Speaker 1: talk about when he's really upright running, he's really straight,
Speaker 1: and then when he hits, I mean it's like he's patient.
Speaker 1: He's patient, and then when he sees the whole, he's
Speaker 1: through the whole. Characters that glider just gliding the way,
Speaker 1: the way he covers ground. Thirty three years ago, he
Speaker 1: glided all over the Dallas Cowboys the last time these
Speaker 1: two teams met in the playoffs. Yeah, it's at the
Speaker 1: twenty to nothing game. Yeah, not only was it twenty
Speaker 1: to nothing, he rushed thirty four times for two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty eight yards. I could still see him running
Speaker 1: down the field for a Cowboy team that finished ten
Speaker 1: and six but had some serious deficiencies. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a you're a division winner, and you get beat
Speaker 1: by the Bears forty four the nothing and you get
Speaker 1: beat by Cincinnati fifty to twenty four, It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how good we are. And some guy
Speaker 1: named kinne saw Kinnebrew. It was Kinnebrew ran all over
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Larry Kinnebrew. He was like a big fullback,
Speaker 1: right yeah, big big back. Yeah. So yeah, Dickerson and
Speaker 1: his two touchdowns fifty five yards in forty six yards
Speaker 1: and he just glided. These are gliders. He was gliding
Speaker 1: all the way to Disneyland. Yeah. So you're saying that
Speaker 1: can't happen Saturday, Well he had better not. It was
Speaker 1: that game in Anaheim. It was in Anaheim. There you go,
Speaker 1: maybe that's maybe that's a trick, get him out of Anaheim.
Speaker 1: I want to played at the Big A January fourth,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. Yeah. Yeah, And they haven't met each
Speaker 1: other in the playoffs since, and only I read where
Speaker 1: they've only been in the playoffs the same year once
Speaker 1: since that. It was two thousand and three. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the tail end of the Greatest Show on Turf, right, yes? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Well let's take the beginning of Bill Parcels. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: That was a talk about a Cinderella story that team
Speaker 1: necessary there. Yeah, all right, let's take our first break
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Speaker 1: all right, hey, And by the way, I left this
Speaker 1: part out. When the Cowboys lost that game at eighty
Speaker 1: five the eighty five season, the Rams quarterback was Deeter
Speaker 1: Brock Rock Peter Brock, Yeah, he was thrown out some names.
Speaker 1: Peter Brock is shorter than Drew Brerees. You know he's
Speaker 1: he's yeah, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray size. Peter Brock was
Speaker 1: a great CFL player, a great sif I get this.
Speaker 1: They lost to a team. The quarterback completed six of
Speaker 1: twenty two passes for fifty yards and was intercepted woods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Peter didn't need to throw it much. Problems, No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just problem was Danny White with sack five times
Speaker 1: and intercepted three times. It doesn't help either trying to
Speaker 1: think who all was on that line for the Jack
Speaker 1: young Blood and then playing linebackers Hacksall Reynolds, those guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hacksall Reynolds. Yes, what a name. Yeah, probably can't get
Speaker 1: away with that these days, right, Haxall Reynolds, Jack Hacksall Renalds. Right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: don't look at me. Don't look at me, because he
Speaker 1: would come with his Yeah, yeah, that's some guys. His
Speaker 1: forearm arm slap to the face might have been done then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Merland Olsen was probably done. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: on TV, was on TV NBC, NBC Football then with
Speaker 1: Dick Enberg. Oh yeah, he was doing that. What was
Speaker 1: the show with the little house in the prairie. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he did that too. It was the thing with the bear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd BJ and the bear. Somebody in the bear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that was a BJ and the bear. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was a BJ and the bear is like a monkey.
Speaker 1: I think it was a monkey BJ and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I have no ideas, Coach.
Speaker 1: It is all right, Ray in fort Worth, get us
Speaker 1: back on track. Ray, what's up? Man? I can't wait
Speaker 1: to be at this game. I don't care how much
Speaker 1: those tickets calls, how much they try to drive with up.
Speaker 1: We're taking over that stadium. I can't wait here you go?
Speaker 1: Are you going? Of course? Yes? All right? I mean
Speaker 1: never know when you're gonna get this for again. Um,
Speaker 1: a couple of I need to make some points, um, Brian,
Speaker 1: you you brought one of the points I want to make.
Speaker 1: Tayvron Austin in the slot. He is a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He's not a running back like that guy tried to
Speaker 1: say yesterday. When you go back and look at that
Speaker 1: where Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek just absolutely torched them in
Speaker 1: that slide. Yeah, I think he's gonna be critical right there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and I'm not worried about their secondary so much.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about our secondary against their receivers because they've
Speaker 1: been incorporating those tight ends too in that game. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm concerned about. Me personally, I want Sue
Speaker 1: a Filo to start this game. We need we need
Speaker 1: more help in the slot because you brought up a
Speaker 1: point earlier in the season. Smith seems more comfortable with
Speaker 1: sue Filo there because he can trust them, and we
Speaker 1: need more strength than that middle. And if sue Filo plays,
Speaker 1: I'm going along at receiver because I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those types of games. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a low scoring game. I think this
Speaker 1: is a game we're gonna have to really score some points.
Speaker 1: And don't forget about and you keep bringing don't forget
Speaker 1: about C. J. Anderson. He's the one that's been keeping
Speaker 1: that running games float without without Gurley, no question, he's
Speaker 1: got fresh legs and he's been putting up some munster yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Thanks guys, all right, thanks Ray. He
Speaker 1: makes a good point about Anderson. I think he's got
Speaker 1: back to back one hundred yard games seven yards to carry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: without Gurly in the lineup, so um, but again I
Speaker 1: think they're expecting one hundred percent Todd Gurley. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you'd go with, you ride with who you know,
Speaker 1: you go with. And they also played Arizona in San Francisco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: true they did. But they have a good scheme. They
Speaker 1: have a great scheme offensively they do. Cowboys' gonna have
Speaker 1: to find a way to stop it. He's right about
Speaker 1: the tight ends though. Yeah, you know, matter of fact,
Speaker 1: from my under the radar guy, you know, you keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that Gerald Everett from South Alabama. You
Speaker 1: know when he came out of the league, came out
Speaker 1: of South Alabama two years ago. He was a little
Speaker 1: an undersized guy, two hundred and forty pounds, but he's
Speaker 1: a He's a really good player as far as getting
Speaker 1: down the field. He's got a real good catch radius.
Speaker 1: You know, they throw balls, I mean, when they get
Speaker 1: him opportunity to make plays, he makes plays. But we've
Speaker 1: talked about him a bunch on the Draft show, and
Speaker 1: he's playing well for the Rams and Tyler Higby. I
Speaker 1: went back and watched the game last time last year.
Speaker 1: These two teams played. Tyler Higby had a pretty good
Speaker 1: game too catching the football. So he raised absolutely right.
Speaker 1: The tight ends are going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: of an issue for the Cowboys have to deal with
Speaker 1: this game. Well, that kind of takes us into where
Speaker 1: I was going some of these matchups here. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you look at it, Brian, where do you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have advantages? And where do you look at it
Speaker 1: and say, m could be a weakness or you know,
Speaker 1: it could be a tough man. Okay, let's look at
Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line if we could. You know, with
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, you know I they went that was a
Speaker 1: big time go out and get buy a tackle bit,
Speaker 1: you know that the Rams did. I think it left tackle.
Speaker 1: I think he does a really nice job. The thing
Speaker 1: the Rams have they have two really big tackles, big
Speaker 1: and mean size with Whitwork and Haverstein. And so what
Speaker 1: you what you want to do with these guys though,
Speaker 1: is you want to try and find a way since
Speaker 1: they're so big and they don't move as well, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not these guys that are really light on their feet,
Speaker 1: and where the Cowboys can take advantage of them I
Speaker 1: think is with guys like Gregory rushing and with also
Speaker 1: with Lawrence first step teams that have been able to
Speaker 1: rush these guys. I went back and watched the Bears
Speaker 1: and went back and watch how the You know, the
Speaker 1: Bears have got that front line that's got some first
Speaker 1: step quickness to them. The Rams had a hard time
Speaker 1: blocking their front with the quickness and the movement. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think the Cowboys. The Cowboys have done
Speaker 1: a nice job with the power inside but also having
Speaker 1: the edge rushers that have that first step quickness. And
Speaker 1: I think this is where I'm liking the Cowboys chances.
Speaker 1: I like what I see with Lawrence coming off the edge.
Speaker 1: I think Gregory is going to have a good game
Speaker 1: too as well against these tackles. Now, the quarterback, he'll
Speaker 1: crumple on you a little bit, a little bit like Eli, man,
Speaker 1: this guy's not going to run around. They played again
Speaker 1: some runaround quarterbacks. This guy's not a runaround quarterback. And
Speaker 1: he's not gonna kill you with the read option and
Speaker 1: all those kinds of things that you have to worry about.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna sit there and make throws in the pocket.
Speaker 1: You know where the spot he's gonna be, So find
Speaker 1: a way to win on the edge and get to
Speaker 1: the quarterback because he's not going to leave that pocket
Speaker 1: very much. Mick Gregory has really come on these last
Speaker 1: few weeks and gotten more snaps, earned more snaps, been
Speaker 1: more effective for this group, and they need him to
Speaker 1: be affect in this game because they're gonna I don't
Speaker 1: know if they realize how good he is, how quick
Speaker 1: he is. They didn't play against him last year, so
Speaker 1: they really don't have an eye test to judge. But
Speaker 1: if he keeps playing the way he's been playing, he
Speaker 1: can cause some serious problems over there. And if he's
Speaker 1: playing well, and if they need to give him a
Speaker 1: leaku play here or play there, then Crawford good plan.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was talking with Jason Garrett the
Speaker 1: other day about Randy Gregory. When we think of Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: we think of how well he's playing the run, I
Speaker 1: mean the Russia passer. He's doing a better job holding
Speaker 1: down the absolutely right, and I think they're pretty hopeful
Speaker 1: that next year this guy could be an every down
Speaker 1: player at right defensive end because he's gotten bigger, right,
Speaker 1: supposedly he's up to two fifty now, he's got some
Speaker 1: weight on. Maybe he's eating some meat. Well, he's kept
Speaker 1: his weight up. You know, I remember his rookie year
Speaker 1: he couldn't keep weight on throughout the right. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think he's probably learned how to eat. Lifestyle might
Speaker 1: have been a little lifestyle a little different, and uh,
Speaker 1: it helps you build some strength. And he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that's deceptively strong. You remember when DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 1: got here, we all looked at him and kind of
Speaker 1: a skinny guy, but he was strong, heavy handed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think Randy Gregory he's kind of moving in
Speaker 1: that direction, and you know, good for him. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he can be a load out there. If those guys
Speaker 1: aren't ready for that, that's good, good points by Mickey.
Speaker 1: They need him to be to play well, not only
Speaker 1: play the run well, but more importantly to get after
Speaker 1: that pastor because it turns into rams trying to play
Speaker 1: action you and stuff. You're gonna have to be able
Speaker 1: to play the run on the way to the rush.
Speaker 1: And Randy Gregory's shown up he can do that. I
Speaker 1: focus on the other on the defensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball for the rams. Okay, I think the guy you
Speaker 1: need to take advantage of is to leave. Okay, And
Speaker 1: and and he's gonna play. He's gonna play on the
Speaker 1: on the right corner. Marcus Peters gonna play. But they'll
Speaker 1: they'll switch, but it's not switching in a way to
Speaker 1: like start coverage or anything like that. They'll just like formation. Nope,
Speaker 1: they'll bring corners over and stuff like that. Where I
Speaker 1: think to Leeb has problems is I think to Leab's
Speaker 1: losing the ball nowadays. He's not as good as he
Speaker 1: once was of making those plays of denying you the football.
Speaker 1: I've seen people run routes on him, especially in zone
Speaker 1: coverage where he hasn't been as quick breaking on the ball,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen him there was a couple of
Speaker 1: times where like the in the Bears game where they
Speaker 1: ran routes on him where he lost his man in courage.
Speaker 1: And if he got guys like Marii Cooper that are
Speaker 1: good route runners, you know, if he gets matched up,
Speaker 1: that could be a possibility right there, because he'll lose
Speaker 1: a guy like Cooper in coverage. So keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that. Mark Baron is the linebacker there. He's a
Speaker 1: former safety that's playing linebacker's been playing linebacker now for
Speaker 1: a few years under this under what we've seen from
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips. But he is an undersized guy. He is
Speaker 1: an undersized guy, so people have been able to kind
Speaker 1: of get blockers up on him. That's why the people
Speaker 1: have had some success running the football against these guys.
Speaker 1: Teams have teams have trapped the rams. I mean trap
Speaker 1: is you see, Okay, they get they get Donald up
Speaker 1: the field bull they hit him with a quick guard
Speaker 1: trap and then the ball comes behind or they get
Speaker 1: and Dona consue they trapped to his side, ball goes inside.
Speaker 1: So watch the how boys trying to run the ball.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to run the ball wide on
Speaker 1: these guys because I think they could stretch you. I
Speaker 1: think they could stretch you with their speed. A little
Speaker 1: bit Baron sideline and sidelines. Fouler a little bit of
Speaker 1: that kind of guy too. They've got some guys that
Speaker 1: can run and so that makes it a little bit
Speaker 1: difficult to have to Their safeties are super aggressive. But
Speaker 1: if you're gonna throw the ball to leave makes the
Speaker 1: most sense to me, and run the ball in the
Speaker 1: direction of Baron. If you can find that's I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the ticket for the Cowboys in this game,
Speaker 1: maybe not so much on the edge inside. Hit him
Speaker 1: with some inside stuff. He's six two two thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd put a bull's eye right on him. Yeah, try
Speaker 1: and get guys, and if you're gonna, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it, make Zeke, make him have to tackle Zeke
Speaker 1: all day. I just think they've had some problems. Of course,
Speaker 1: stop Ran Maldon. They got Michael Brocker's who they can
Speaker 1: move around. Sue Donald Donald is Donald Is, Donald is
Speaker 1: going to try and win every single time. On the
Speaker 1: first step. I mean, he's gonna try and swim you
Speaker 1: right quick. That's just so if you could find a
Speaker 1: way to like, if you know he's gonna swim you
Speaker 1: on that on that three technique shoulder side, and you
Speaker 1: could just knock him, just get him up the field
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, knock him a little bit
Speaker 1: to the side. That's where the ball can go right
Speaker 1: in there. That that you know, when they run the
Speaker 1: zone and stuff, cutting him off as a pain and
Speaker 1: that you know what, So who went nowt would you
Speaker 1: rather them play in their three four defense or would
Speaker 1: you rather them go in with their nickel and bringing
Speaker 1: in somebody the nickel or man. Yeah, the nickel. What
Speaker 1: they'll do is they'll rush Fowler, Sue Donald and then
Speaker 1: also this number ninety four, This Franklin Myers, John Franklin
Speaker 1: Myers is But when you get him in nickel, they
Speaker 1: spread out, they they're they their splits get real big.
Speaker 1: So that's where teams have also hit them on some
Speaker 1: second down runs. You get him a nickel, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you can hit some runs inside
Speaker 1: because they get spread out. Franklin Myers is really interested
Speaker 1: in getting up the field. Donald's interested in getting up
Speaker 1: the field. You know. That's where that's where I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one
Speaker 1: of these games where we see some second down runs
Speaker 1: and maybe if it's second and seven, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you get a first down run and it's three yards
Speaker 1: or four yards, and then you come back with another run.
Speaker 1: You know, if they feel like if you could get them,
Speaker 1: if you could get them in their four man line,
Speaker 1: you can get them to spread out a little bit.
Speaker 1: You can make them have to defend horizontally and then
Speaker 1: run the ball up inside on him. There interesting, very interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me flip it around real quick and go back
Speaker 1: to the Rams offense. Yeah, Cooper Cup was a huge difference.
Speaker 1: They missed him badly before he got hurt. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is the state of their receiving core without him? What
Speaker 1: does it look like? We you know, Brandon Cooks is
Speaker 1: a speedy guy. We know about him. Yeah, what's the
Speaker 1: state of their great well? Woods has involved, Robert Woods
Speaker 1: is involved, and you got Cooks, and then you've also
Speaker 1: got Josh Reynolds, and they where they've missed where they've
Speaker 1: missed Cooper Cup as Cooper Cups really good, was good
Speaker 1: in the slot, and so Josh Reynolds has been trying
Speaker 1: to take that role so as Cooks. You know. But
Speaker 1: but Cooper Cup is one of those We talked about
Speaker 1: him a bunch on the Draft Show. Was bad ball receiver,
Speaker 1: you know, knows how to get open, high catch radius,
Speaker 1: you know all those things. They've had some inconsistency with
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, you know, and Robert Woods has had his
Speaker 1: share of issues as well. But you're usually gonna get
Speaker 1: Robert Woods catching the ball on the outs. He's kind
Speaker 1: of a sideline guys when they throw him the ball.
Speaker 1: Reynolds more inside, Cooks is more insight more down the field.
Speaker 1: But where where Cooper Cup was really good was dragging stuff,
Speaker 1: I mean across the field and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they're throwing the ball on the move and it's a
Speaker 1: you know, he's hitting guys in the first down. I
Speaker 1: broke down a plan Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and I
Speaker 1: think Kent's gonna put it up here this afternoon of
Speaker 1: how they used how He's Todd girl in the passing
Speaker 1: game where they get trips on one side and run
Speaker 1: everybody inside and then create a just a lot of
Speaker 1: people and then they bring girly back underneath. They use
Speaker 1: it for a touch down against Green Bay. So you
Speaker 1: have to worry about them throwing the ball the tight
Speaker 1: ends the back and then again these receivers. But but
Speaker 1: not having Cup has been has been a little bit
Speaker 1: of a problem for them. And Reynolds six three kind
Speaker 1: of a mismatch guy, good player, if I remember at
Speaker 1: A and M. Yeah, he was the deep guy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he doesn't down the field. Ye, So I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, they probably they don't put him inside,
Speaker 1: right they he's on the outside, on the outside generally, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And whichever last game I saw him play. They were
Speaker 1: going to him and he was doing a heck of
Speaker 1: a job. And um, yeah, I remember him from the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Yeah, san Antonio, right, yeah, gig him absolutely.
Speaker 1: And hey, speaking of Senior Bowl, Zack Martins seen plenty
Speaker 1: of Aaron Donald. I mean he has there played the
Speaker 1: Rams last year. Yeah, so you know, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: it was a couple of times where Zach got buckled
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, on the and you don't
Speaker 1: often see that, but that's what Donald does to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's built so low to the ground
Speaker 1: that what happens, He's like a wrestler, like those those short,
Speaker 1: powerful wrestlers, gets leverage. He's one of the best leverage
Speaker 1: players I've ever seen playing inside. When he talked about
Speaker 1: getting because he's if he if he wins, then on
Speaker 1: the edge he's a problem because of the quickness and
Speaker 1: his ability to redirect. If he gets under you, which
Speaker 1: he can because he's short, then he has the power,
Speaker 1: the lower body power and the snap to kind of
Speaker 1: drive you back. He caught he caught Zach batt a
Speaker 1: couple of times last year in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: but you have to you know, if you don't account
Speaker 1: for him the correct way. He can wreck your run game,
Speaker 1: he can wreck your passing game. But there's time you
Speaker 1: would think that because how short he is, that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't find the ball very well because he gets caught
Speaker 1: up on blocks when he gets caught up on Blox heat.
Speaker 1: But he does. He really does a great job of
Speaker 1: getting off the block and then getting to the ball.
Speaker 1: So that's something you have to stay on him. Just
Speaker 1: make him if he's going to make a tackle, make
Speaker 1: sure you're between him and ball carrier. Just stay with him.
Speaker 1: That's where he beats a lot of people. Is he's
Speaker 1: able to disengage and go get the ball. That's a problem.
Speaker 1: He's like a Geiger counter ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I remember that. That was like the highlight of that
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl too. Yeah. Those two match guys go out
Speaker 1: at each other and it was really uh. And this
Speaker 1: will tell you when people get caught up on numbers
Speaker 1: like how big you are. Because coming out of high school,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a lot of offers no Pitt. He
Speaker 1: was small, too short. So Pitt takes him right and
Speaker 1: then he comes out and it's like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know where I'm gonna take this guy. He's a little
Speaker 1: too small. I don't think this is gonna translate in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And once he got twenty and a half
Speaker 1: sacks this year. Yeah, Well a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going to compare in this draft at Oliver coming up
Speaker 1: from you, Recie Houston to him, and they're they're not close.
Speaker 1: At Oliver's a good football player, he is not this guy.
Speaker 1: And you know, part of it to compensate for his
Speaker 1: size is he's got the most Oh he never stops.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, never stops. You may think you got him blocked,
Speaker 1: but you don't have him blocked well unless you're sitting
Speaker 1: on him. It's one of those intangible traits. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what makes Lawrence as good as he is. They
Speaker 1: will it's his effort in addition to what his skill
Speaker 1: level is. Wade Phillips will move him to wherever he
Speaker 1: feels he can win that to get ready for that,
Speaker 1: if it's if it's Sue Philo, if it's Connor Williams, whoever.
Speaker 1: But he's always going to play the three technique, and
Speaker 1: there'll be an occasional scheme fit where he will play
Speaker 1: as a defensive end. Well, they'll put suit a defensive
Speaker 1: end and kind of move some guys around, So it's
Speaker 1: just an occasional thing, but generally he is going to
Speaker 1: play on the outside shoulder of whatever guard that he
Speaker 1: lines up across from. Definitely a matchup to watch. Let's
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Speaker 1: you don't mind, just I'm again to periscope and fest
Speaker 1: any chance that Lewis comes in to cover Gurley the
Speaker 1: way he did Kamara. Well, that's a great question because
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you out of the break.
Speaker 1: Is he is he similar to Gurley in that he'll
Speaker 1: wind up anywhere? Oh? He will in different ways? Yeah, ball, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's I mean that's the probably the closest thing they faced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you think that because Kamara is like you knew
Speaker 1: Kamara was coming in, Like for certain plays, Girly is
Speaker 1: gonna play all the time. Girly didn't come off the field.
Speaker 1: So do you play Lewis? Do you play Lewis in
Speaker 1: away that like, okay, where wherever Girly goes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go kind of a thing, I bet, I bet. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's a great question six two twenty four. Either. I'm
Speaker 1: just I think they're talking about I think they're just
Speaker 1: talking about the the ability to receive. Do you deny
Speaker 1: you trying to if they hand you the ball? Oh no,
Speaker 1: but skinny Jordan Lewis on the field. Well, you got
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis on the field, he's probably if if if
Speaker 1: they put Girly at half back and run, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different when they moved Kamara to
Speaker 1: the outside, but there were some times where Girly or
Speaker 1: where Lewis faced Kamara when he was inside on some routes. Well,
Speaker 1: it would have to be down in distance then, yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have to be down third and long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have to be saying, okay, I'm going dime. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna throw the ball. And Lewis was. He
Speaker 1: was great in that game. But he only played like
Speaker 1: eight snaps, eight snaps, but it was vital eight vital snaps.
Speaker 1: I think Kamar had one catch and that of the eight.
Speaker 1: So it's a great question. Yeah, it is if you
Speaker 1: would consider that. But I think that I think the
Speaker 1: way that you would probably handle this guy is with
Speaker 1: your linebackers. This is where I think you hand because
Speaker 1: now you have a quarterback that doesn't run, so that'll
Speaker 1: allow you to keep Smith and vander esh on him. Right.
Speaker 1: If that's the case. Breeze wasn't a scrambling option though,
Speaker 1: really was he? No? I mean no, no, But what
Speaker 1: what what happened last year when he caught his touchdown pass?
Speaker 1: They just had a busted coverage. Yeah, he came out
Speaker 1: of the slot and ran a little slant over the
Speaker 1: middle and no one went with him and get him
Speaker 1: in the open like that, and you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: big problem. Yeah, so m but it's a good thought.
Speaker 1: That's good. I just know it is. It's something you
Speaker 1: wouldn't We really haven't addressed. But he did. He took
Speaker 1: He took Alvin Kamara out of the game. He really did.
Speaker 1: He played eight snaps and it felt like he played
Speaker 1: twenty exactly because he was all over He was all
Speaker 1: over them. Yeah, he was all But see that's the
Speaker 1: same thing with Gurley. And again that play I broke
Speaker 1: down that Kent's putting up for you. He they lined
Speaker 1: him up at wide receiver. So you know, if if
Speaker 1: you said, okay, do I want to walk vander Esh
Speaker 1: out there? Do I want to walk Smith? Smith is
Speaker 1: your primary blitzer, So if you walk, somebody would likely
Speaker 1: be vander Esh. But so you would walk, But again,
Speaker 1: you won't know they're sending him out at wide receiver
Speaker 1: and until he's too late, until it's too late. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you could just say okay, third, third, and like
Speaker 1: Mickey says, third and six dime dime, dime, dime, and
Speaker 1: then okay, now you've got you've got him if they
Speaker 1: try and run the screen, if they try and run
Speaker 1: him wide, you know that's your guy. A clear passing situation,
Speaker 1: clear pass situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: it though, Yeah, I like I like the thought. I
Speaker 1: mean it's something we maybe need to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: And as the game rolls on, I want to grab
Speaker 1: a phone call. Why not Ryan in California? You're up next?
Speaker 1: What's up? Right? Yeah? What's up? Guys? Hey, I just
Speaker 1: want to say one thing real quick, Broadest. You are
Speaker 1: the man and I go to Oxnard every year. Thank you.
Speaker 1: And if I can take you out to a stake
Speaker 1: dinner and just talk to the ball with you for
Speaker 1: a little bit, I'd really appreciate that. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: Mickey'd like to go. Rob'd like to go with the
Speaker 1: We love the Western Sizzler. They're an Oxnard. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get us hamburgers. Yeah, yeah, we we have, we have, guys,
Speaker 1: we have. Yeah, one of our off days, we always
Speaker 1: go to the Western Sizzlers. So if you ever want
Speaker 1: to meet out there, we'll meet you and we'll let
Speaker 1: you buy the tab. Okay, all right, for sure, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, I just want to talk about the development
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott. Um, it seems like to me he
Speaker 1: just kind of hit a new level these past social
Speaker 1: games and around the league. You kind of see a
Speaker 1: quarterback maybe after their third going into the fourth year.
Speaker 1: You see if they'll if they'll survive in this league
Speaker 1: or not. So talk about the development of Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: for me. Okay, all right, right, thanks for the call.
Speaker 1: Mickey's been on this. Mickey's been trying to tell us
Speaker 1: all just to mind our peace and ques Mickey will
Speaker 1: tell us, well, what changed? Yeah? What changed? Change? What
Speaker 1: did change? Mick Maury Cooper changed? Yea, Mary Cooper is
Speaker 1: offensive line change. Yeah a little yeah, that line change.
Speaker 1: Line coach changed, Mary Cooper changed. You know, you got
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley back playing at a high level. You've got
Speaker 1: a young guy that Mickey is. Again, I give you
Speaker 1: credit for this one. Mickey. You talked about Michael Gallup.
Speaker 1: Throw him out there and let him play. Hey, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's fifty you know, a lot of times it's fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: It might be seventy thirty another time. But you know,
Speaker 1: at least you're letting young guys play. I think we're Prescott.
Speaker 1: I just think where we missed, evaluated, or I would
Speaker 1: miss evaluate Prescott is that you he doesn't get nearly
Speaker 1: enough credit for how the fire in his gut. That
Speaker 1: that's I think. I don't think there's anybody out there
Speaker 1: that if it came down to the last two minutes
Speaker 1: of a game and they had a chance to win,
Speaker 1: that they feel badly about Dak Prescott going at it.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody. If you're a Cowboy fan
Speaker 1: and you feel that right now, then you're clearly not
Speaker 1: watching the game. Colebas I've asked Cole about this, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think last week he said, when he's got
Speaker 1: the ball and they need to do something, the last
Speaker 1: team finds a way, it's gonna happen. And he said
Speaker 1: it's almost getting repetitive talking about it, because I get
Speaker 1: asked about it every time he does it, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you expect? You know, this is, that's what's
Speaker 1: what he does. See now he's got development. We didn't
Speaker 1: get any of these questions in twenty sixteen about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, how good is this guy? He's
Speaker 1: a rookie, a fourth round draft choice, And then the
Speaker 1: first half of last year. Oh man, this guy's just
Speaker 1: put this team on. It's on his back. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden things go downhill the second
Speaker 1: half of the season with no Zeke, with no Tyrand Smith,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, this guy's no good. And then
Speaker 1: it carried on to this year and they're three and five.
Speaker 1: Even it's always the quarterbacks problem. So now he's developed. Well,
Speaker 1: didn't get any of these questions for the first twenty
Speaker 1: four games of his career. Think about it. We didn't
Speaker 1: get those calls. Yeah, it was like, whoa did he
Speaker 1: get worse? Well? I would. I wouldn't say he was
Speaker 1: a finished product as a rookie either, I think, but
Speaker 1: we didn't get these calls. Now I think that people.
Speaker 1: I think where I think where Dak Prescott gets where
Speaker 1: people are very critical of him, is just with the
Speaker 1: accuracy and things like that. But I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: I think there's so many other things involved with quarterback
Speaker 1: play than just accuracy. And I think he checks to
Speaker 1: borrow scouting terms from people. I think he checks a
Speaker 1: lot of those boxes. I think the most important one
Speaker 1: is give me a quarterback that's gonna win. That's the
Speaker 1: most important thing to me. You know, he finds ways
Speaker 1: to limit his mistakes when he makes mistakes. It's not
Speaker 1: like he's making mistakes every game, you know, occasionally, not
Speaker 1: all the sacks are his fault. You know. Do you
Speaker 1: want him do you want him p s thing faster? Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody would. But you know, there's quarterbacks in this league
Speaker 1: that gets sacked just like he does. There's quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: this league that makes mistakes just like he does. I
Speaker 1: think I think that we're very very I think that
Speaker 1: we've been critical of him, you know, to a fault
Speaker 1: because the bottom line is winning games. That's what I've
Speaker 1: learned about this guy. I mean I saw him in
Speaker 1: the SEC at Mississippi State. I told the story before.
Speaker 1: Scouts have gone in there before after he left Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: That team was ranked number one in the country at
Speaker 1: one time, remember that, and it was you know, had
Speaker 1: had a great run with Dan Mullen there as him
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. Scouts went in there after he was
Speaker 1: gone and says, where's all the talent here, where's all
Speaker 1: the talent. There weren't first round receivers. There weren't first
Speaker 1: round offensive linemen. There weren't first round you know, tight ends.
Speaker 1: There that guy, right, there was the reason why they
Speaker 1: were number one ranked team in the country. And I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of that he's shown here, you know,
Speaker 1: And for you know, for me, I am not going
Speaker 1: to be critical of him as as a leader and
Speaker 1: as a winner, because I think that's the most important
Speaker 1: thing you need to have as a quarterback. So I
Speaker 1: was looking at the stats from the game against Seattle,
Speaker 1: and this was afterwards, and I was on the front page,
Speaker 1: and I wrote this down and this will be the
Speaker 1: line in my column for Friday, Dak And it's grammatically incorrect. Right,
Speaker 1: Dak does what he'd do, Yeah, and dot dot dot win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't worry about all the other stuff, sure, just win, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: bottom line is to win. And he's won thirty three
Speaker 1: games now including playoffs, thirty three and seventeen. That's over
Speaker 1: sixty percent of his game, half his games, half his
Speaker 1: games have been come behind victories. Think about that. It's
Speaker 1: that that's there's there's quarterbacks have been drafted. Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: would kill for these numbers. Yeah, there's quarterbacks have been
Speaker 1: drafted in high, high, high spots and slots that would
Speaker 1: kill to have this guy's numbers. I mean, he's I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's had as many fourth quarter comebacks in
Speaker 1: the first three years career. No, in the NFL. Now
Speaker 1: he's across the field, it's Jared Goff, number one picks,
Speaker 1: Scott Awful his first year, same draft. Yeah right, yeah, um.
Speaker 1: But you know, for whatever reason, Dak slips to the
Speaker 1: fourth round, and like you said, it probably has to
Speaker 1: do with off the field. He got a DUI. That
Speaker 1: didn't help. No, it doesn't help that teams are teams
Speaker 1: are wondering, oh my god. And you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: things about it. There's coaches will tell you stories why
Speaker 1: this guy's perfect, doneah done, you know, all the stuff,
Speaker 1: and he get a DUI. All of a sudden, people
Speaker 1: are like, what going to wait a minute, this guy drunk.
Speaker 1: This is a drunk quarterback. I played with a drunk quarterback,
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, one of the best drunk quarterbacks ever to
Speaker 1: play of all time, all time. But what happened to
Speaker 1: Brett Farve? He went to second round you know because
Speaker 1: of that, Yeah, that in his injury car accident, car
Speaker 1: accident he had, yeah, which might have had something to
Speaker 1: do with Yeah. Mississippi guys, Well he's Louisiana, yeah, document
Speaker 1: you know, but State. But everything about Dak's character in college,
Speaker 1: everywhere he's and has been until he got the DUI, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and but beyond that, I mean, yeah, that happened leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, but I feel like and just
Speaker 1: talking to people that have been around him from high school,
Speaker 1: on every level he's been at, people have questioned the arm, talent,
Speaker 1: the whatever, the physical traits. And I think that was
Speaker 1: part of it too coming out. You know, could he
Speaker 1: make all the throws at the NFL level? Could he
Speaker 1: do all that stuff? He's been questioned? Every would challenge
Speaker 1: I would challenge anybody to tell me a quarterback and
Speaker 1: I'm sure there, I'm sure there. Okay. I would challenge
Speaker 1: you to say that that that golf would make a
Speaker 1: run on third and sixteen to pick up a first
Speaker 1: down in that in that situation, I'll challenge you to
Speaker 1: say that, you know, give me I mean, maybe guys
Speaker 1: like Mahomes would make that run. Maybe some of the
Speaker 1: younger guys might make that run. I challenge you to
Speaker 1: find a quarterback that we could talk about arm talent
Speaker 1: and accuracy and all that. But there's so much the
Speaker 1: other things that those quarterbacks that have armed talent, accuracy
Speaker 1: don't have that this guy has. It's a wash. It's
Speaker 1: a wash. I mean, think about think about just straight
Speaker 1: taking a snap and frigging power running to the left,
Speaker 1: you know, with blockers in front. You know, you get
Speaker 1: your your star running back throwing a block, and you're
Speaker 1: all pro guard or tackle out there pulling and do it.
Speaker 1: You know, think about just how how much guts and
Speaker 1: determination and desire it takes. I'll take that if you
Speaker 1: want to tell me this guy doesn't have armed talent
Speaker 1: but keeps winning games, Like Mickey says, okay, no question
Speaker 1: about it. That's why, that's why some of these top
Speaker 1: college programs look like fools for not recruiting him, because
Speaker 1: there's stuff you can't see with him that and he
Speaker 1: can think his ability to make throws as underrated. We're idiots, scouts,
Speaker 1: we are, We're idiots because we get caught up in
Speaker 1: the armed talent and all that other stuff and size.
Speaker 1: Yeah Donald, yeah, Aaron Donald. Well I know, no, no,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was good. But everybody senior bowl I saw it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but too many people. Well here short he went, he
Speaker 1: went fourteenth. Yeah, all right, Still twelve guys were better
Speaker 1: than him for an undersized defensive tackle. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: thought Jerry made a really good point, uh when they
Speaker 1: asked him on Monday about the Dak's performance in the
Speaker 1: preseason game when we finally got and a lot of
Speaker 1: other people finally figured out that Jamil Showers wasn't better
Speaker 1: in that game. He got the start, and Jerry, they
Speaker 1: were talking about his stats or whatever. He goes. You
Speaker 1: know what I looked at, he goes, I looked at
Speaker 1: my sideline. Yeah, and I saw what he was doing
Speaker 1: and how the guys on the sideline reacting to a second,
Speaker 1: number two quarterback or a number three quarterback, a rookie.
Speaker 1: He goes. Everybody was off on the field when he
Speaker 1: was completing passes. So it told you something about his
Speaker 1: leadership skills, as Jason Garrett was there unmatched. As Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett said, he's as natural a leader as I've ever
Speaker 1: been around. Yeah, and they're gonna they're gonna rally behind
Speaker 1: him on Saturday night. They have to. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: start with DAK for nice to see on our on
Speaker 1: the Good Morning Football Human Log. Was he on they
Speaker 1: did Human Log was getting some like most underrated player.
Speaker 1: All right, human log. He's earned that, by the way,
Speaker 1: he sure had. There'll be a story on him in
Speaker 1: the La Times because arm was working on that USC
Speaker 1: guy homecoming for him and that's where he grew up.
Speaker 1: I think he was. Absolutely, He's got a lot of
Speaker 1: ticket requests downtown LA or inner city Lay. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: at a time now, Gonna be back tomorrow as Jason starting.
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