1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: This is the OTP. 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm joined by Titans Radio's draft experts Rett Brian and 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: coach Mac. 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: The duo is here. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: I asked, and you guys very graciously provided lists of 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: the top prospects at each position. We had a lovely 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: discussion last time about corners and safeties and linebackers, and 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: it was so much fun. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Figured we should keep doing it. 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: So here we are talking defensive lineman and edge rushers. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: How are you guys feeling about this? Feeling good? 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: This is a heavy group. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: It is a heavy group, and. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's it's a big man draft. And this 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: is a lot of the parts. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 5: You know, when you start putting your vertical and horizontal 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 5: board together, just the numbers start to stick out to you. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 5: This is a This is a pretty heavy group. 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Mac. 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: As teams are getting closer and closer to the draft, 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: say two weeks out, one week out, a couple days out, 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: how much is there a scramble at the end to 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: get everything done or is it more hazing the bar 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: and there's nothing more we can do. 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: We've evaluated as much as we can. 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: Now there's no scramble. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 5: I mean, look, they started on this draft class a 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 5: year ago, So you're the personnel department is never scrambling. 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 5: The coaches don't start on their players until the season's over. 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 5: The coaches are the ones that have to catch up 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: with this, their film evaluation, their point of attack tapes, 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: all of those types of things. But the scouting apartments 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: they're working, they're a year ahead all of the time. 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 5: So everything in this league time wise, is in a 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 5: linear progression. This group when they had to go dark 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: and just you know, hole up in a room for 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 5: a month together, they had to learn the same language. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: But wherever the new powers that be came from here, 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you got veteran, veteran people, they were already 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: vetting these players. You know where they came from. So 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: there's not anything that surprises you getting prepared for the draft. 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: Amy now on draft day, there are things that happen 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: because you have no idea what the other thirty one 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: are going to do, right, you don't and people that 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 5: try to tell you that all these air quotes here 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 5: is this a visual medium we're in right now? 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: He's experts, he's draft experts. 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 5: A lot of them don't know whether they're full of 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 5: horseback as we talk about. So you don't listen to 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 5: any of that stuff. But in your own place, that's 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: a real, real misconception that there's a mad scramble when 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: all this stuff. 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: Is going on. Everything is pretty well laid out. 54 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 5: You've got I mean, you've got your front board, you 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 5: got your sideboards, you got your backboard, you got everything 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 5: is set. Now how you move these people before the draft, 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 5: your last minute adjustments, that's important. But also once you 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: start taking names off of that front board, then you 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: start to adjust your board because then it looks different 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 5: as to where you have them lined up vertically and horizontally, 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: as to far as as value, and so that's that's 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: where the. 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Movement comes in. 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 5: And then I work the phones for years, and there's 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: the phones are constantly going during a draft. I mean, 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: that's a that's an adrenaline pump there. But all that 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 5: happens on draft day getting prepared, pretty linear, pretty. 68 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Calm, but it's it's still not like that movie Draft 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: Day with Kevin Costner, who I love, love a Kevin 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: Costner film, but that movie makes me sweat because they 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: accomplish so much in a day. I mean, they really 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: get too much done in a day that that's too 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: much scrambling. There's not that much scrambling in real life. 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: But I mean people think it's really that chaotic. It's intense, 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: but not. 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: That chaotic, not chaotic, not it's not chaotic, organized chaos, 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: but a great film. Highly recommend if you haven't seen it, 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: but exhausting. 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: You don't want chaos in your draft room. 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: No, No, that's what that preparation's for, all right, things 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: that are not chaotic. 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: This conversation right now, we are going to break down 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: some of these defensive linemen. There's a lot to talk 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: about in this group. Mac, Why don't you give me 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: some of the people who are on your list of 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: defensive linemen that you're watching. 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: Derek Harmon from Oregon six four and a half, three thirteen, 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: ten and three eights, hands bigger than yours, Amy arm 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 5: Link thirty four and three eights. 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: Wing span. 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 5: We measured Amy's hand eight and a quarter. Yep, it 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 5: is pretty impressive. Wingspan eighty two, four nine five and 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 5: the forty. His physical profile, that's what you want. He's 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 5: explosive initial quicks, he's got an efficient I mean, he's 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: got a good club swipe or a rip move, and 96 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 5: he can his bull rush create. I mean, he's got 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 5: great knockback. He can create a lot of scrimmage. On 98 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: the other side, he's very powerful. He's got a great motor, 99 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 5: his pursuit range, his play strength, his lateral range is exceptional. 100 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: He has got an anchor that you want. He doesn't 101 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 5: take games over as a pass rusher, but he is 102 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 5: a disruptor. He's not extremely gum with his bend in flexibility, 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: but he's powerful. 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: I like this guy. I like this guy a lot. 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: The next guy I've got on my list is Tyleek 106 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: Williams from Ohio State. Sixty three three thirty four ten 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 5: in a quarter hands, armlenk thirty two, wingspan seventy nine. 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 5: You can tell by those measurements he's very sturdy. His 109 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: anchor is extremely powerful. He's got flexible power to I 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: mean he can play a double team, he can split 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 5: double teams. He can knock his opponent back occasionally. Now 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: you can see some pretty good flash from him as 113 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 5: a pass rusher. You can see that as on the interior. 114 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: His arm length I said was thirty two. That's right 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: on the fringe. There's sometimes when if he's playing a 116 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 5: wide zone play where you can see that lack. 117 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: Of arm length. 118 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 5: But again, to me, this guy is he will probably 119 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: be chosen very early in this draft. 120 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: TJ. 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: Sanders from South Carolina sixty four to two ninety seven, 122 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: ten and a quarter hands, arm length thirty three and eight, 123 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: wingspan eighty one, really really long levers thirty one and 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 5: a half. Vertical jump nine to four broad jump, And 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: don't compare these these vertical jumps and broad jumps to 126 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 5: guys that weigh one hundred and eighty or two hundred pounds. 127 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good point. 128 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean these are big dudes moving big bodies. 129 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: His short shuttle was pretty decent. He's explosive, he's got 130 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: lateral twitch, decent pursuit range. I'd like his combination of 131 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 5: burst and good balance. His hand usage is really good 132 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 5: because at two ninety seven, to say somebody, two ninety 133 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 5: seven is a little bit on the lower scale of 134 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 5: weight wise, it is for an NFL defensive lineman. Again, 135 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 5: his lower half is not as strong with his anchor, 136 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 5: and he's a little bit inconsistent sometimes with his bullrush. 137 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 5: But he will fit in. He'll probably fit in as 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: a good rotational player on a defensive front that will 139 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 5: probably eventually move into being a starter. Walter Nolan from 140 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 5: Ole Miss one of my favorite players. Six four two 141 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 5: ninety six, nine and a half hands, arm link thirty 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 5: three and a half, wingspan eighty in a corner, really 143 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: good lateral explosions. He's a three technique. He will play 144 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: on the outside shoulder of a guard. His striking power, 145 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 5: his initial punch, he's got twitch. He he's a good 146 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: gap shooter. He's got good good anticipation. He's flexible. He 147 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: can sink his hips. I mean really for a big man, 148 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 5: he's flexible. He drops his pads well. He was a 149 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 5: really good run defender in the Southeastern Conference, which you're 150 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: playing against. Good offensive lineman. He's got good range. He's 151 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: a relentless motor. 152 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: Dude. 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: That's one of his biggest traits is he's got a 154 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 5: relentless motor. Walter Nolan out of oh Miss. Those are 155 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: my guys who have any more. 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: No, it's interesting that you make the point about a 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: guy like TJ. Sanders being a rotational player and having 158 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: that be where he gets his start. Not every person 159 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: who is going to get drafted is going to be 160 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: a starter day one right away. There are a lot 161 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: of people who are going to be taken, especially in 162 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: the mid level of this draft, kind of those late 163 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: day two s, early day threes, who are going to 164 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: come in and be doing things other than what it 165 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: is they're drafted at. Position wise, whether it's being a 166 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: positional player, whether it's making their impact on special teams. 167 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: There are guys who have a lot a lot of 168 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: different ways they can contribute to a team and ultimately 169 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: make a living well. 170 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: But let me just say something about defensive lineman. The 171 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: way defenses are played now collegiate ball and in the 172 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: National Football League, you need to rotate your defensive front 173 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: because that's hard work, that's grown man work in there, 174 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: and you've got to at least be able to have. 175 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: If you're on a roster you go into the game 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: day with less than seven of these dudes suited up, 177 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: you've got an issue because you're gonna wear out doing that. 178 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: That is physically taxing up there. So being a rotational 179 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: player as a defensive lineman is just like being a starter, 180 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: because there are times when you're going to be out 181 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: there when the starters aren't and you're and it's on 182 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: purpose because you need to be able to conserve as 183 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 5: much energy as possible through the course of sixty to 184 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: sixty five snaps, which is the average for defenses to 185 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 5: play in this league. So all of these guys will 186 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 5: be integral parts of somebody's roster. 187 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: Rhtt Did I blow past a ret nugget? 188 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: I was thinking about Walter Nolan, his guy he likes 189 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: that he mentioned last. There a lot of people in 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: Tennessee will be watching this guy and what he does 191 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: and where he's picked because he's a Memphis native. Spend 192 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: some time at a high school or two in Memphis, 193 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: and went to IMG for a minute, and then finished 194 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: at Powell Tennessee and East Tennessee. And a highly recruited guy, 195 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: but local tie there in terms of a native Tennessee 196 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 4: and see I did. 197 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes I got to slow down and back up. There's 198 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: good ret nuggets around every corner. 199 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: It's always got nuggets. 200 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got to look for him, all right, Rhett, 201 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: hit me with your list. You've got a lot of 202 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: Michigan men on this one. 203 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: Well, rightly so. Again, these are leftovers from the national 204 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: championship team of a year ago, where they had eighteen 205 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: guys that were draft eligible. Mason Graham is at the 206 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: top of that list at six three and a half 207 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 4: two ninety six hands, nine out and eight seventy eight 208 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: and a half inch wing and the only thing he 209 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: did at the combine was a bench press twenty four 210 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,239 Speaker 4: reps at two twenty five. But Mason Graham a standout 211 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: high school wrestler, and so you will see that in 212 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: the way in the style that he plays his hand 213 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: fighting is very good. Mason Graham is going to be 214 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: a guy who is top Night one pick. He'll be 215 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: early on selected in this. He's a really nice player. 216 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: His teammate Kenneth Grant sixty three and five eighths, three 217 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: thirty one hands, ten and an eighth eighty two and 218 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: five eighths inch wing long player. There again, another solid 219 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: player for that national championship team of a year ago. 220 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: Not as highly touted as this Mason Graham that I 221 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: just mentioned, but certainly a guy that could be taken 222 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: a nine two and possibly a little later in this 223 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: Alfred Collins from Texas six' five almost sixty, six three 224 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty two, pounds ten inch, hands eighty five 225 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: inch wing span for that, guy, wow and uh twenty 226 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: six vert at that size twenty six inch vertical and 227 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: an eight foot broad jump in This but, yeah you 228 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: saw him and what he did for The longhorn. ESPECIALLY 229 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: i got down to the stretch into the college football. 230 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 4: Playoffs the last One i've got Is Shamar turner From 231 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: TEXAS a AND. M there's there's a group Of shamar's 232 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 4: and we're gonna get some edge rushers in. There But 233 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: Shamar turner six three and an eight two ninety, hands 234 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: ten and a quarter eighty almost an eighty two inch 235 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: wingspan For Schamar. Turner Chamar, turner very nice prospect and you, 236 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: know all invited to The Senior, bowl all invited to the. 237 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: COMBINE a lot of those, guys and that's why we're 238 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: when we're talking about these two groups and defensive line 239 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: and edge. Rushers there's a lot of good talent throughout 240 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: and some of these guys that we're mentioning Are night one. 241 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: Guys there's a lot of depth in that, group there. 242 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: Is and you, know And i'll give you a quick 243 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 4: ret nugget On Chamar. Turner great story on him and 244 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: kind of his. Upbringing mom kept having trouble With shamar 245 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: in school and he would get in trouble and it's, 246 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: like look At shamar's got to come. Home and that 247 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: happened one too many times from about third grade to 248 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: finally seventh, grade she moved him twenty miles away from 249 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: her to with her brother who's a barber by trade 250 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: but also a youth football. Coach, well one of his 251 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: clients Is, DeSoto texas high school football head football, coach 252 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: and so between his uncle and this head football, coach 253 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: they really helped shape him and create what is a common. 254 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: Story and we hear this time of the year of, guys, 255 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: look you're not into. Trouble, trouble but we need to 256 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: let's focus and use this as fuel and use this 257 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: as a lane for you so that you know we 258 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 4: want you to be the. Best and he has taken 259 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: all that to. Heart AND i mean, here he's going 260 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: to be drafted and drafted pretty. High but there's plenty 261 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: of stories like, This he's just one of. 262 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: Them. 263 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 2: Mac when you hear stories like, that does that add 264 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: anything to the evaluation of a, person knowing that there 265 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: is something keeping them, honest keeping them, focused keeping them, 266 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: motivated does that give any sort of an extra? 267 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: Edge YOUR mph background is huge on these. 268 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 5: Guys MATTHEW i, Mean i've been with clubs and AGAIN 269 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: i will not name, names but would pay a guy 270 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 5: to be on the road three hundred days a, year 271 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 5: going to hometowns and just basically crawling through all the 272 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: pipes to find, out you, know who this person, is 273 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 5: who's who's the influence in their lives because you, know 274 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 5: we're all products of our, environment and so these these 275 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: types of things are extremely, important extremely. Important that's why 276 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,119 Speaker 5: the vetting of these players and also those that are surrounding, 277 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 5: them that are their support systems or that might be their. 278 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 5: Issues you've got to you've got to learn about the 279 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: people because you're investing a lot of, money but also 280 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 5: you're investing time on task with these. People that's especially 281 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: when you're drafting, somebody because you want someone that's going 282 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 5: to be. 283 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: There. 284 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: Now they don't have to all have the same, background 285 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 5: because nobody, does but you have to have a good 286 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 5: idea of what it, is and the only way to 287 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: do that is you've got to go talk to. People 288 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: they've surrounded themselves with their whole lives and some of 289 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 5: them have no choice sometimes with their, environment but how 290 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 5: that environment has affected them and how they have had, 291 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 5: it says how they have gotten help to you, know 292 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: maybe get them back on another. 293 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: Road all that's. 294 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 4: Important his mom loved him enough to, say, LOOK i 295 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: can't keep getting phone calls like this from, school and 296 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: to hear the accounts of his teachers in those instances and. 297 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: Scenarios smart guy just he liked a clown and have 298 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: fun and you, know disruptive and so you, know he's just, 299 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: Like i've got to figure something out. 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First, 325 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: yeah all, right of. 326 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: Course Here's Shamar Shamar stewart From TEXAS a AND m 327 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 5: sixty five two sixty, seven nine and five eighths, hands 328 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: thirty four and an eighth arm linked eighty four and 329 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: three quarters wingspan. Huge, yeah that's condor type uh forty 330 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: r dashed four five, nine vertical jump forty inches forty 331 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: inches for a guy sixty five to two, SIX i 332 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 5: mean that's an athlete broad jump ten. Eleven this guy 333 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 5: has got the physical. Profile if you were going to, 334 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: say what do they look? Like what do you want 335 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: one to come out of the lab looking like this is? 336 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: Him he can collapse the, edge he's heavy, handed he 337 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: can shoot, gaps he can beat the running back to 338 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: the mesh. Point he's, Quick his pursuit range is really. 339 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: Good he's got. Bend he's got, flexibility he's got lower body. 340 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,359 Speaker 5: Power he can bull, rush he can long, arm offensive, 341 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: tackles he can do. 342 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: All of that. 343 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: Stuff, now his pass rush production is. Mediocre, okay it 344 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: doesn't match the physical. Attributes, okay he's a little indecisive at. 345 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: Times his explosiveness to win as a pass rusher doesn't 346 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 5: define what his traits. Are, here you've got to figure that. 347 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: Out plays a little bit with too high pad. Level 348 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 5: this is a quintessential traits. Guy that his production doesn't 349 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: match his. Traits that's where you've got to dig a 350 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 5: little further to find. Out because if you wanted to 351 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 5: paint a picture of one how they, look this is the. 352 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: Dude and WHEN i put. 353 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 5: On the tape of, him If i've got somebody like, 354 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: THAT i, Mean i've done this for a. MINUTE i 355 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: expect to see somebody that's not giving great, effort OR 356 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 5: i expect to see somebody that's kind of play, on. 357 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 5: Playoff that's not this. Guy you don't see. That he's 358 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 5: an all. Out he's a full, out just doesn't. Finish 359 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: so you've got to dig a little deeper to figure that. 360 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 5: Out but if you're looking for a prototypical all the. 361 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 5: Measurements that's this, Guy Samar. Stewart, wow he's. 362 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: The kind of guy that The Baltimore ravens would take 363 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: a chance. On And i'm not saying they're going to draft, 364 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: him BUT i mean they've taken high trait athletic, guys 365 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: and those guys are starting to pay dividends now in 366 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: years two and, three and there's some guys in. There 367 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: he fits kind of that description. 368 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: Right the next guy Is Mike green From, marshall who 369 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 5: we talked to at The Senior. Bowl we brought him 370 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 5: to the, table sixty three two fifty, one hand size 371 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 5: eight and a half arm, length arm length thirty, two 372 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: wingspans seventy seven and five. 373 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: Eights really a strong. Guy this is a twitched up. 374 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: Dude when you watch, him he can he's got that 375 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: he can flatten to the launch point really. Well he's 376 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: a good hand. Fighter he's got various pass rush, moves 377 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 5: a lot of cross chopped stuff that you see that's 378 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 5: kind of kind of advanced for a collegiate. Player he 379 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 5: transferred From, Virginia so this guy, had you, know and 380 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 5: then transferred To, marshall and you have to dig on 381 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 5: that to find out the real. Reasons he's got good, 382 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 5: hands speed to, power with, leverage he can do. It 383 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 5: his motor is. Good he attacks the blocks. Now his 384 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 5: arms are in the second what we call second. Percentile 385 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 5: he doesn't have extremely long. Gadgets you've got always take 386 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 5: into account At marshall the type of competition he's playing 387 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 5: against as far as offensive, lineman because those aren't most 388 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: of the time a big number OF nfl type offensive. 389 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: Tackles you can see his lack of. 390 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: Reach sometimes his anchor at times is not as. Good 391 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 5: you can see him get worse down. Some but he's got, 392 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: twitch he's got, size and he's got a good. 393 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: Motor so these guys. 394 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 5: Are at such a premium that don't be shocked if 395 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 5: he's not taken in the lower part of the first. 396 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: Round really, yeah. 397 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 5: Just watching him one now for everybody here At. Tennessee 398 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 5: James Pierce junior From tennessee six five two for ten inch, 399 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 5: hands thirty two and three quarter arm length four four 400 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: seven in the forty yard. 401 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Dash wearing a hoodie which looked. 402 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: Good a one five six split broad jump of ten 403 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: to three and the REASON i say the broad jump 404 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: for his vertical jump does not match those other physical. 405 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: Traits he jumped thirty one inches. Vertically, now whether he 406 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: just doesn't want to jump, HIGH i don't, know but it. 407 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: Does people don't like to. Jump it's. True some people 408 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: just don't like the sensation of. 409 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: Jumping, okay, well i'll take you. 410 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: Word just take that into, consideration, Going i'll take your 411 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: word for. 412 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: THAT i didn't know. 413 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: THAT i THOUGHT i had a lot into my rip 414 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 5: over all the Years i've done, This. 415 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: BUT i don't like to. 416 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: Jump, okay it feels your oldest, Daughter livy didn't like 417 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: to jump. 418 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: In, no she's not very. 419 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: Good i've seen her on the. Travelin, yeah it's. Bad 420 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: she's gotten. Better still not. 421 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 5: Good so to your, point you're probably you got some experience, There, 422 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 5: ye all, Right James. Pears his first step is. Rare 423 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 5: he is really quick off the. Ball he is very. 424 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: Sudden he's got good hand use each when he. Does 425 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: he's a capable power. Rusher he's got a high. Motor 426 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 5: this guy's got a high, motor especially Against chase the. 427 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: Runaway he's got great. Range you can see just in 428 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: the in the speed that he. Runs he's got. Versatility 429 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: he's they dropped him in coverage some there At. Tennessee 430 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 5: he's very rarely on the, ground which is. Important he 431 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 5: can keep moving at two forty, Five he's probably gonna 432 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: still need some more strength Development. Tennessee you talk about 433 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: defensive line. ROTATION i think we've talked about that earlier 434 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 5: in our conversations with defensive. Lineman they had a massive 435 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 5: defensive line rotation there At, tennessee plays as many eleven 436 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: or twelve guys in a, game and they were really. 437 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: Good that was the strength of their football. Team, defensively 438 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: he got decent bull. 439 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 3: Rush for his. 440 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 5: Size, AGAIN i think he probably needs to get a 441 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 5: little bit, stronger learned to play with a little bit 442 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: lower pad. Level but the measurements as far as speed and, 443 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: Twitch James Pearce junior's got all of. That but just 444 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: looking at him on, TAPE i, mean that's That's that's 445 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 5: the kind of dude you could you want to take 446 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 5: because he can he can, chase and he can move 447 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: and he's a, sudden sudden. PLAYER i, think in my humble, 448 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 5: opinion he'll be a first round. 449 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: Player. 450 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 5: Yeah next Is Landon jackson From. Arkansas this guy really 451 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 5: helped himself in all the post season workouts six six 452 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: two sixty, seven hand size of ten thirty three and 453 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 5: a quarter arm lengthd eighty two and a half wing. 454 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 5: Span comes to the, combine runs four six eight a 455 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 5: one sixty five. Split this is a long we talk 456 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 5: about high cut. Guy this is a high cut. Guy 457 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 5: uh vertical jump forty and a half ten to nine 458 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: broad jump and for a high cut, athlete that that's. 459 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 5: Exceptional seven to, one three three Cone now that was 460 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 5: it just pro day At. Arkansas and he also you, 461 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: know ran a good short. Shot this is a sturdy 462 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 5: athletic frame. Guy he's a smooth and fluid mover with 463 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: good athleticism and his improvement as Far first of, all 464 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: he lost weight from The Senior bowl to The, combine 465 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 5: and early on at The Senior bowl WHEN i watched him, 466 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 5: practice you know was going with. This this isn't moving 467 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: like you know he's playing to, upright he's. Played he 468 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 5: got better as the week went, on and then at 469 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: The combine you could see the dramatic improvement he had 470 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 5: made in working, out getting his getting his body. Fixed 471 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: he flashed the mobility at the combine and being able 472 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 5: to win around the corner as far as with the 473 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 5: drills that we talked. About he's going to need to 474 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: develop bore pass rush. MOVES i, mean he loves the 475 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 5: cross chop and that's what he does a lot. Of 476 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: he'll have to learn. That he's very athletic for his, 477 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: size but he needs to continue to work on that 478 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 5: struggles sometimes with. Leverage but he's high cut and high, 479 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 5: cut as we talked about earlier in the, machisms stuff 480 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: that sometimes cuts into your balance and when a blocker 481 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 5: has leverage on. Him with those high cut, guys unless 482 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: they really work on keeping their center of gravity, down 483 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: that can become an. 484 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: Issue but he has helped himself. 485 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: A lot in this post season workouts and everything that he's. 486 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Done showing that you're able to take, coaching take, direction 487 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: or even just continually improve in a short amount of 488 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: time has got to go a long, way. 489 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 4: Right it. 490 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: Does it, does and it shows that that he that 491 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 5: he understood and he got some good, feedback some legitimate 492 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: feedback from people, saying, hey this. 493 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: Is, this this is what. 494 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: Is keeping you from you, know ascending as far as 495 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: the draft, order and he did something about. 496 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: It that's. 497 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: Awesome, assignment responsibility and, Accountability, YEAH. 498 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: I mean he worked on it a big. 499 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: Deal he looks like a cyborg. Man that's a big, 500 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: dude shaved. 501 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: Head he, Crypt, yeah got to make sure he's. Scary 502 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: rhet who's on your? 503 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 4: List Abdul, Carter well, YEAH i mean we've, said you, 504 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 4: know that, week we did all that work at The 505 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: combine and it just continues to. Be so there's there's 506 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: two blue chip players in this, draft and one of 507 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 4: them Is Travis, hunter who we've already discussed in the PREVIOUS. 508 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: Otp check it. 509 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Out if you missed, it. 510 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: Please like, rate. Subscribe Abdul carter's the. Other and you're 511 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: talking about a Unanimous All American Big Ten Defensive player 512 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: of The, year sixty eight, tackles twelve quarterback. SACKS i 513 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: don't think he actually did any measurements at The. COMBINE 514 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: i know he didn't do any, testing BUT i don't 515 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 4: think they even put the tail of the tape on. 516 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: Him now that week we're at The, combine they discovered 517 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: that he had a stress reaction in his. FOOT i 518 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 4: don't know if that means. Fracture i'm not a, Doctor 519 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: mac THINKS i. Am i'm. 520 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: Not So andy's dad's a. 521 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: Doctor he is absolutely get him on the horn and AS. 522 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: I like Doctor, Wells i'll talk to. 523 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: It apparently it's something that sometimes requires. Surgery he has 524 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: elected to not have that surgery and continue to. Rehab 525 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: but we saw what he did in the college football. 526 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 4: Playoffs the guy had a shoulder injury that he's coming back. 527 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: From that's another reason why he didn't test at the. 528 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: Combine he was beaten guys with one. Arm, yeah he 529 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: just was absolutely wrecking. It and that's the leader in 530 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 4: this a couple guys From. Georgia Jalen walker has. Won 531 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: Jalen walker sixty one two forty three, hands ten and 532 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: a quarter almost an eighty inch. Wingspan he was A 533 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: Butckus award winner in twenty twenty four to sixty one, 534 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: tackle six and a half sacks did a lot for 535 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: That bulldog's. Defense his Teammate mike Kel williams also at 536 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: the combine six' five and an eighth two, sixty hands 537 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: ten and, a quarter arms thirty four and three eight 538 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: and almost an eighty three inch wing whoa five, quarterback 539 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 4: sacks twenty. One tackles he's a more of a, defensive 540 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 4: end big guy on the end of a line and 541 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: then the last one is a guy we saw At 542 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: The senior bowl and At, The combine donovan As a 543 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: Roku From. Boston college as a rokup rang in at 544 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: six two and, a half two forty, eight arms thirty, 545 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: five wing eighty two and. Three quarters he had six 546 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: nine four to three, cone drill thirty five and a half, 547 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: inch vert nine to, eleven broad twenty two reps at 548 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: two twenty five At. The combine and this is a 549 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: guy that, You know mac just, Talked About mike Green. 550 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: From marshall he was the quarterback sack winner in twenty 551 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 4: twenty Four at marshall. Was, seventeen well this guy had 552 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: sixteen and a half right. Behind him so you're talking 553 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: about some wealth of riches at. This Position and aziraku 554 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 4: may not go as certainly as High As abdul carter 555 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: and some of THESE others, i mentioned but he's got 556 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 4: a chance to sneak into the bottom of the. First 557 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: round what is. 558 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: It that separates some of these elite edge rushers from 559 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: the guys who are still, very, good strong productive. 560 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: Edge rushers what's the? 561 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: Difference, gumby okay guys that, are gumby that's what you're. 562 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: Looking for so, the flexion but from the knee and, 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: the ankle especially the ankle and being able. TO bend 564 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 4: i get a. 565 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: Motorcycle, BAND yeah i mean that's that's that that that's. 566 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 5: The separator that is. A separator, i mean the the 567 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: great edge Rushers that i've, you know had the opportunity 568 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: to coach in, this league they all. HAD that i 569 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 5: mean that you've got to. HAVE that, i mean, YOU 570 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 5: know I Drafted simeon RICE when I was i mean. 571 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: He did the dude is. 572 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: Just Gumby Uh robert quinn At the rams at nineteen 573 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 5: and A half. Saxophe, season gumby, you know those those 574 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 5: types of Things that. Gumby bend just that that we 575 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: talk About and RET and i joke. A lot i 576 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 5: mean we were, going through, of course we do a 577 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 5: lot of, stuff together and then he, was reading he 578 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: was reading off a list. Of me ONE time, i 579 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 5: said this guy's got. GOOD flexion, i said you. MEAN 580 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 5: flexion i mean that's what. You need that's what. You 581 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: meant and so now we call. It flexion, but, yeah 582 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 5: yeah you, did say yeah. You did which is the 583 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: ability to bend with an athletic stance from the hips 584 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 5: to the knees to. 585 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: The, ankles huge that separates. 586 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: Them and that's not necessarily tied to your shape or 587 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: your size or anything. Like that that's that's an Ability that's. 588 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: God. 589 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: Given, Yeah interesting. 590 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: And With, abduall carter he's got some. 591 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 5: Of. 592 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: That men but, you know because he wore number eleven 593 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: and Played At penn stateum, was, like hey this is 594 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: The Next. Micah parsons There's One. Micah, Parsons Right michah 595 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: parsons was different from. This, guy right this guy's got 596 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 4: bin but he Didn't Have michael. 597 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: Parsons, Bind hey, titans fans With A kroger, boost membership 598 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: you'll score big with double, fuel points, free delivery and. 599 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: Lots more Go to kroger dot com slash boost. For, 600 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: details kroger the official grocer Of The. Tennessee titans Tight 601 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: up home is the forefront of all. We do it's 602 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: why we're so committed to caring for the places and 603 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: spaces in which we work. And, live ashley the official 604 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: furniture provider of The Ten. See titans now back TO. The, Otp, 605 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: well RHETT did i miss sending? Ret nuggets is THERE anything? 606 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: I know let's just see how many MORE words i, 607 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: can MISPRONOUNCE. 608 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: And i will point it. 609 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: Out, too yeah of course you will have an accountability partner. 610 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: That your accountability buddy over here is just selling you 611 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: out right. 612 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: And left. 613 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: That's, okay, well guys this has. 614 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Been fantastic thank you for continuing to go along with 615 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: my little. GAME here i think that we have learned 616 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: a lot about not only defensive, line prospects but some 617 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: edge rushers and some real names to be watching as. 618 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: We get closer and closer Towards. The draft it, is 619 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: coming and ladies, and gentlemen we're going to be ready. 620 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: For it yes. We will we'll. Be, ready yes. 621 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: All right we are going to continue on through, this 622 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: series but for now we are going to say goodbye 623 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: For coach mac For. Rehtt Bryan I'm amy wells and 624 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: this has BEEN the otp