Speaker 1: Hey, it's Lyle here. Just a quick note that this
Speaker 1: episode was recorded in a real life over at Echo
Speaker 1: Park in Los Angeles. I went there and set up
Speaker 1: some chairs and a little sign that says, come talk
Speaker 1: to a real gecko, and I spoke to a lot
Speaker 1: of interesting people that came by to chat. I also
Speaker 1: added a phone call at the very end, so stick
Speaker 1: around for that. Also. The first guy that came up
Speaker 1: to me is wearing like tactical gear and stuff, but
Speaker 1: you can't tell because it's an audio only thing, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was important to mention anyway. This was
Speaker 1: a really fun episode to do. I love recording these
Speaker 1: things outside in real life. You get to look at
Speaker 1: people's real faces and you're not just talking to a
Speaker 1: mysterious omnipotent voice thing. And yeah, it was just a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to do. So I hope you guys
Speaker 1: enjoy it, and let's get into it. Hello everyone, it
Speaker 1: is a quiet day at a park. I've come here
Speaker 1: alone to be a gecko and try to talk to people.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone is going to be down
Speaker 1: to talk to me, but that's okay too. I could
Speaker 1: sit here alone for an hour. I don't mind. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to learn how to go more with the flow
Speaker 1: of what's going on in life. So let's see what's up.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's awesome. Hey, go ah you doing?
Speaker 1: Don't go with your name Spike, Spike nice, that's a
Speaker 1: fucking cool name.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you guys are.
Speaker 3: Agents, yeah, well bounty hunters.
Speaker 1: Oh you bounty hunters? Yeah, a bounty hunter.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you explain what exactly that is?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: Uh, when somebody is arrested for a crime, I'm supposed
Speaker 4: to go to trial. They place a bond and that
Speaker 4: guarantees their appearance. Some people don't follow through. Bloke we're
Speaker 4: after right now, women by drugging them. Jesus and his girlfriend,
Speaker 4: his sister and her boyfriend put up one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars to get him out, Oh my god, and then
Speaker 4: he skipped. So once we have a piece of paper
Speaker 4: from the court, I can arrest him the moment I
Speaker 4: put eyes on him, and I'm not constrained by search warrens.
Speaker 4: I just blow doors and so most of it's not
Speaker 4: that exciting. You're just looking around and you're offering people
Speaker 4: five thousand dollars to drop a dime on him until
Speaker 4: you get the address. Then you go to the police station.
Speaker 4: Let him know you'll be blowing in some doors. You
Speaker 4: take your crew out. This is Badger over here.
Speaker 1: Hello, Badger can talk, Bads. You want to talk after, well,
Speaker 1: let's I want to hear it from you first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we figure this guy is one of two places.
Speaker 4: It's either being hidden by the girlfriend or he went
Speaker 4: to Korea. If you went to Korea, it's pretty easy.
Speaker 4: We got his career ID and you can't flush a
Speaker 4: toilet there without your ID number. Old made of mine
Speaker 4: is a retired brigadier general of the Marine Corps. So
Speaker 4: he'll hit the guys at the US embassy there because
Speaker 4: the Marines work for the State Department protect through the embassy.
Speaker 4: And I'll zip tie him and drag him into the
Speaker 4: US Embassy and get him ready for extradition.
Speaker 1: So what are you guys doing at the park?
Speaker 4: I scream, Yeah, we just finished the cases in Puente Hills,
Speaker 4: So we just got I live in Koreatown and so
Speaker 4: does she, So he came back this way.
Speaker 1: So how long have you been spending trying to track
Speaker 1: this guy down?
Speaker 4: We have one hundred and eighty six days to find him,
Speaker 4: and I would say, we're on about day twenty three.
Speaker 1: You have one hundred and six days two hudred and
Speaker 1: eighty six one hundred and six, you're on day twenty three.
Speaker 1: Are you confident that you will find him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So how are you like tracking him down again?
Speaker 4: You were just like when he posts bail, the people
Speaker 4: that put up the surety have to give all kinds
Speaker 4: of information, so does he. So we've got all their ideas,
Speaker 4: passports plate sorry heights, passports plate numbers, their friends, where
Speaker 4: they work, where he worked, where his friends work, and
Speaker 4: so what you do is you just go around and
Speaker 4: politely squeeze, because it's kind of embarrassing having a bloke
Speaker 4: like Spike just show up with a wanted poster for
Speaker 4: your boyfriend, and all the shops around your area, somebody
Speaker 4: always drops a dime.
Speaker 1: So normally you offer them money to top.
Speaker 3: Five thousand cash.
Speaker 1: Wow, that could sway a lot of folks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because normally one hundred thousand dollars bond will get
Speaker 4: you a ten thousand bounty. We negotiated a twenty five
Speaker 4: thousand bounty on this because we might have to hop
Speaker 4: over to inshot him back a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's commission only if you will.
Speaker 1: So this is it? You say, you only get paid
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 3: Honey, bet, if you get it done. Man.
Speaker 1: So you so have you seem like you've been doing
Speaker 1: this for a long time? Yeah, and in that period
Speaker 1: of time, have you ever sunk a ton of time
Speaker 1: into a case and just not found the person?
Speaker 3: Well, you treat every case the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you have a procedure and you follow it
Speaker 4: and you'll realize two out of three in.
Speaker 3: The time window.
Speaker 4: Now, sometimes the bail agent, the guy that put up
Speaker 4: the bounty or put up the both the bounty and
Speaker 4: the bond, he may get an extension from the court.
Speaker 4: See California, people don't realize what's happened out here. Okay,
Speaker 4: for me, it's a money train, but for most people
Speaker 4: it's terrifying because they've made the compliance requirements for bounty
Speaker 4: hunters so incredibly difficult. I have one guy that's Allly,
Speaker 4: does contractor just as paperwork. Almost no bounty hunters that
Speaker 4: come to California anymore. So now the criminals know that
Speaker 4: at thirty six months, if I shot you today and
Speaker 4: then I go hide and she brings me my food
Speaker 4: for long enough, They're gonna throw my file away and
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have anybody looking for me.
Speaker 3: It's going to be as if it never happened.
Speaker 4: And that's going to go down to one year because
Speaker 4: they change the laws where we can't operate here. There's
Speaker 4: a few tenacious people, I spike will just get compliant.
Speaker 4: I have to have a permit for my handcuffs. I
Speaker 4: have to have a permit from my baton. I have
Speaker 4: to have a permit for my tear gas. I have
Speaker 4: to have an open carry permit. I have to have
Speaker 4: a concealed weapons permit. I have to have a guard card.
Speaker 4: It's and I even have to do eight hours with
Speaker 4: a California Department of Insurance. So nobody's out there looking
Speaker 4: for these people except just a few old timers like me.
Speaker 1: Does this guy know that you're out there?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And so he's he's actively so he's actively hiding from me. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so in your in your line of work, tell me,
Speaker 1: like the moments where you have locked eyes on a person,
Speaker 1: well physical idea, what is that like? That must be
Speaker 1: crazy intense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: I'm getting a bit older now, I have some real
Speaker 4: big blokes that handle some of this for me. Now
Speaker 4: I've got Greedy, he's six eighty three hundred, and then
Speaker 4: I got Samson. He looks like NFL running Back, except bigger.
Speaker 4: It can happen one of two ways. One way you
Speaker 4: get a clean dime. Somebody calls you and really all
Speaker 4: they're worried about is that they're going to get their reward,
Speaker 4: and you get the address, you run it immediately to
Speaker 4: local constable shop, whether it's if it's LAPD let's say,
Speaker 4: rampart station, or if it's the sheriffs.
Speaker 3: You go to the sheriff.
Speaker 4: Station, you take in your warrant from the court to
Speaker 4: show that you have the power to arrest this guy.
Speaker 4: You let him know where you're going to be lowing
Speaker 4: doors in, and then you go in with six to
Speaker 4: nine people and you just overpower them.
Speaker 1: So once you know where they're at, you're not going
Speaker 1: in alone. You're going with the whole squad.
Speaker 4: No, the only time you end up with something alone
Speaker 4: is where you just run into him at Ralph's.
Speaker 1: That happened, Yeah, what is that like?
Speaker 4: Well, that's a ton of fun because people around aren't prepared.
Speaker 4: You don't have anything in the cops station. You may
Speaker 4: not have body armor on, so you just well you
Speaker 4: charge them and you.
Speaker 1: Charge at them.
Speaker 3: Z time.
Speaker 1: Do you have zip tares on you right now? Just
Speaker 1: a case of that happens.
Speaker 4: No, you know, my last pairs in the car and
Speaker 4: says my body armor. But that'd be all right, Okay,
Speaker 4: we tie them.
Speaker 3: Up with the mic cord.
Speaker 1: That would be amazing if he just like just was
Speaker 1: walking by and.
Speaker 3: We caught you.
Speaker 4: You get these eyes from them and then you, you know,
Speaker 4: you give them some love and you try not to
Speaker 4: hurt them.
Speaker 1: Okay, So interesting, we're.
Speaker 4: Pretty particular people that hurt children, women Capitol. I had
Speaker 4: a great one, this guy, lovely fella. He was playing
Speaker 4: chess with his best friend and the guy beat him
Speaker 4: the temerity of it, so he shot him in the
Speaker 4: head and so he was on the FBI's most wanted list,
Speaker 4: and that's one hundred thousand, right. So I called John,
Speaker 4: who was the especialation in charge up in Sacramento, and
Speaker 4: I said, you know, John, I think we can bring
Speaker 4: this fellow in and he's like, well, okay, we've been
Speaker 4: trying for like seven and a half years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got to go where they covi it.
Speaker 4: This guy covets his little sister and he's in Mexico
Speaker 4: right now. And I'm not going to Gable of horror
Speaker 4: for one hundred grand, thank you.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: But when he comes back for her birthday party, then
Speaker 4: either you guys can go get him after I signed
Speaker 4: Himcause FBI gets real perstiicty.
Speaker 3: They like to get their own callers. They don't want
Speaker 3: some contractor in the middle.
Speaker 1: So you're an independent contract yes, right, And to these
Speaker 1: organizations like the FBI today, how what's your relationship like
Speaker 1: with them? Do you? They not like you.
Speaker 4: I spent just today one hundred and twenty dollars at
Speaker 4: California Donuts. Yeah, which Eli Vera, who has the most
Speaker 4: righteous kills for the Sheriff's Department, swears is the best
Speaker 4: to them. It's in La Oka, and so when you like,
Speaker 4: we took it down to the cop shop and point
Speaker 4: to hills, made sure they had a dozen California Donuts.
Speaker 4: We got badger and delivering them. She's a lot prettier
Speaker 4: than I am, and you got to share respect. It's
Speaker 4: their feet to them. Yeah, And really, my biggest danger
Speaker 4: because my my front plate will take a seven to
Speaker 4: six to two point blank. But my back plate, you know,
Speaker 4: you can penetrate it, and you can always catch.
Speaker 3: This big you've gotten shot in.
Speaker 4: The police are the biggest danger, not because they're bad blokes,
Speaker 4: but when you got a large, funny looking fellow like
Speaker 4: me wrestling somebody in the ground and throwing them in
Speaker 4: the trunk of the car, they can misinterpret that as
Speaker 4: a kidnapping. Oh shit, So they killed the chap over
Speaker 4: here not so long ago because he wasn't That's why
Speaker 4: we wear all this gear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just in case if like, like, have you
Speaker 1: ever been like shot by a con? Not yet, but
Speaker 1: that's like a part.
Speaker 4: Well they got shot at with the twelve Games, but
Speaker 4: they missed Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, how long you doing all this for?
Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight?
Speaker 1: Since two thousand and eight, so math, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen years.
Speaker 1: Fourteen years. Yeah, that's what I was taking fourteen years.
Speaker 1: Have you always wanted to do this?
Speaker 3: No? No, I was a professional soldier before, okay.
Speaker 4: And I just thought, well, you know, how do you
Speaker 4: take these skills and put them into society in a
Speaker 4: productive way. I don't like evil, so we don't want
Speaker 4: to get child Muster's rapists and capital murderers out the street.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that, And these are people that didn't show
Speaker 4: up for courts. They screwed everybody that loves them. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know, I've had a few ruckuses with the FBI,
Speaker 4: and I stayed and faced the music and it all
Speaker 4: went away. Because you're innocent, you don't bold. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know a lot of analysis for my gecko, what's.
Speaker 1: Been the most difficult part of your job?
Speaker 4: Uh, sometimes you feel sorry for the bloke. Really, That's
Speaker 4: why I prefer more heinous crimes.
Speaker 1: Where I also get to this is that's a super
Speaker 1: interesting thing. What makes you feel sorry for people even
Speaker 1: if they've done heinous things.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm born again and I used to
Speaker 4: be a really evil person, and so I can't judge anybody.
Speaker 4: Most of the people I arrested probably nicer than I was.
Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes if somebody got another chance, they
Speaker 4: might make it.
Speaker 3: But that's not my duty.
Speaker 4: A guy gives me a contract, somebody basically stole one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand from him, or two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 4: or a million, and it's my job to go bring
Speaker 4: them in and then they face the music that they
Speaker 4: created interesting.
Speaker 1: So because you're you're born again and you're sort of
Speaker 1: reformed from a life in which you yourself were doing
Speaker 1: things that were not so great, it gives you a
Speaker 1: greater empathy for people who are also doing things that.
Speaker 4: Are Yeah, so that's why I'm not interested in people
Speaker 4: that haven't committed much in the way of crimes, and
Speaker 4: the crimes aren't that serious.
Speaker 1: Sure, you're going for the real mind.
Speaker 4: And you look at the file, right, this guy's got
Speaker 4: a ten year older girlfriend he's using and then she's
Speaker 4: going to lose your house now, and then he's brought
Speaker 4: in and the sister. He's got a boyfriend that's twenty
Speaker 4: years old that I went to his house and I
Speaker 4: got his idea, right yeah, And he's like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know this guy.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm standing here next to you, but
Speaker 4: I haven't talked to the police in the area yet.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna make a ruckas today.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 4: Everybody's innocent and they're all the victim.
Speaker 1: That's very interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, here, where's my phone here? So you know seeing's
Speaker 3: believing right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely what you got on that.
Speaker 4: Well, you got to keep the stress up on the
Speaker 4: people that are going to drop the dime, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so here is this is the girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the text you've you've been sending texts. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's got the guy that you're find, the guy that
Speaker 1: you're looking for, and he's a text to his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4: So this is a weird case because he could turn
Speaker 4: himself into the embassy and soul and I got enough
Speaker 4: hookups from the Marine Corps, I don't have to go. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and we can make it a lot easier on him
Speaker 4: because the Orange County DA It's just isn't really a
Speaker 4: crime in California.
Speaker 3: You probably just exonerate him, not extraded him.
Speaker 1: Really, it's not a crime in California.
Speaker 3: It's not one that'll extradite from a foreign country.
Speaker 1: Jesus.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we went by.
Speaker 4: I was going to put a tracker will not officially
Speaker 4: you can't do that in California. But let's say that
Speaker 4: somebody was going to put a tracker. This would be
Speaker 4: a bad location. So we just took a picture of
Speaker 4: the car. I said, we were in town. Your attorney
Speaker 4: hasn't called me tell us this location. Please five thousand
Speaker 4: in cash.
Speaker 3: You won't know how we found him. We'll be back
Speaker 3: to serve the lean on your house. Be smart, give
Speaker 3: him up. My attorney'll call you. My attorney will suit you. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean have him called. It is diurney before
Speaker 4: you lose your home? Miss, How am I supposed to
Speaker 4: do this? How am I supposed to?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: How to get him do the right thing? You just
Speaker 4: keep the same message going.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, you think she should stay with him?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think she should stay with
Speaker 1: him at all.
Speaker 3: All right, so she probably ought to move on. She
Speaker 3: probably ought to keep her house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, she probably give him, give him up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and i'd give her five thousand in cash.
Speaker 1: Man, these are wild. So you're you're, you're you must
Speaker 1: see you know, doing what you do. You must see
Speaker 1: like sides of humanity that that most people don't get
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a probably a fair statement.
Speaker 4: We get the true flawtsom which is nice tonight. On
Speaker 4: an average week, we've cleaned La out of one. Hardened
Speaker 4: criminals comeback.
Speaker 1: And you get a deep sense of pride from doing that.
Speaker 4: No, I get a deep of paycheck. So you know,
Speaker 4: you got to make a living here, and how do
Speaker 4: you do it honorably?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: When all I know how to do is blow things
Speaker 4: up and shoot at them.
Speaker 1: And you, if you're going to blow things up and
Speaker 1: shoot them, you might as well do it. You're you're
Speaker 1: like dexter, kind of dexter.
Speaker 4: I do personal protection, but I'm not good with the
Speaker 4: blue eminem set.
Speaker 1: What are blue?
Speaker 4: You know the stars that you've got to escalades driving
Speaker 4: up bel air hills backwards, And I've never seen Bill
Speaker 4: m d m a all over your car, and you
Speaker 4: gotta explain. I got a deal though, I'm going to Israel.
Speaker 4: In Israel, well, I'm growing out in my beard, okay,
Speaker 4: and I'll shave my head so I look like the.
Speaker 3: Guy that i'm protecting.
Speaker 4: That way, he's got a fifty percent greater chance of
Speaker 4: living right away because he can shoot the wrong fellow.
Speaker 4: He wrote a book about Islam that was deemed defensive,
Speaker 4: so they have a.
Speaker 3: Fought kill order on him.
Speaker 4: Oh Jesus, So I get to see the Holy Land,
Speaker 4: and if I can keep him alive, it'll be a bonus.
Speaker 1: Well, so you're defending somebody who has a fatwall on them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did he pay you to defend them?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm doing this one pro bono. They just pick
Speaker 4: up my air fair at Israel and my hotel. I
Speaker 4: get to see the Holy Land.
Speaker 1: What you're doing a pro bonum just to see your
Speaker 1: the Holy Way.
Speaker 4: I'd like to keep him alive because he seems like
Speaker 4: a nice chap and i'd like to see the Holy Land.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Are you deeply religious?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not religious. I'm Christian. It's completely different.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is uh sort of keeping you in touch
Speaker 1: with your Christianity.
Speaker 3: God Jesus once you're born again. It's profound.
Speaker 4: I live my life for him rather than fit him
Speaker 4: into my life like a religious person would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know the guidelines that.
Speaker 4: I try to try to do my level best to
Speaker 4: serve well.
Speaker 1: Spike, it's been crazy talking to you, man. Thank you
Speaker 1: for your time. I mean sitting down and chatting where.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm on a YouTube thing?
Speaker 3: Seriously?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: Well, if this one publishes Spike likes the Gecko, I
Speaker 4: will endorse you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: If I if I, if anyone ever calls a fatwa
Speaker 1: on me, I'll give you a call. Beautiful, Can I
Speaker 1: talk to you badger you guys, busy Okay, no worries,
Speaker 1: I got it. Thank you very much, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Take care of Spike. But that was pretty wild, see
Speaker 1: you guys. You know what's crazy about doing this show
Speaker 1: is that sometimes you sit around for forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: ask a bunch of people if they're down to talk
Speaker 1: to you. You get rejected by most of them. One
Speaker 1: accepts they don't really want to talk to you that much,
Speaker 1: or you're just kind of like, well, maybe I should
Speaker 1: pack it up. But if you stay for a little
Speaker 1: bit longer than when you were planning on leaving, you
Speaker 1: will get an interview with a bounty hunter. And if
Speaker 1: that's not a metaphor for life, then what is. We're
Speaker 1: hanging out, we're in the sun, we're alive, we're outside
Speaker 1: of our rooms, we're off the computer. This is all
Speaker 1: I've ever wanted is just look at other people in
Speaker 1: the friggin faces.
Speaker 2: Crazy though, because like please, I'd listen to you constantly
Speaker 2: at work and I'll you know, hop in the live
Speaker 2: streams you. Yeah, I've tried calling in so many times.
Speaker 1: Okay, now here now that we're okay, this is perfect.
Speaker 2: But this is wild.
Speaker 1: This is perfect because now that we're here, what is
Speaker 1: there a thing that if you called in you would
Speaker 1: want to talk about that we can do? This is better.
Speaker 1: We can do it in face to face.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be on the show.
Speaker 1: Really okay, but but okay, when you're listening to the
Speaker 1: podcast though, and I know this because I've done this
Speaker 1: with podcasts that I've listened to. I imagine what I
Speaker 1: would say were I on the show. You've never once,
Speaker 1: as you've listened to all these people's share things, You've
Speaker 1: never once thought yourself, what would I share if I
Speaker 1: were on the podcast? Not?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I just know I haven't.
Speaker 2: I haven't really thought about it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to get to the fucking bottom of
Speaker 1: you before this. This is a challenge that I'm accepting.
Speaker 2: This is unreal.
Speaker 1: What is what is your life like? Because give me
Speaker 1: a baseline?
Speaker 2: All right, So this is my beautiful girlfriend.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful. Hello, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: I work, I build closets, Okay, pretty simple life. I
Speaker 2: do play video games.
Speaker 1: Okay, you build closets, you play video games, you live
Speaker 1: a simple life. What is your relationship with the life
Speaker 1: you live? Do you ever reevaluate your simple life and
Speaker 1: wish to make it more complex? Or are you fairly
Speaker 1: happy where you're at?
Speaker 2: And I'm more so striving for more?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Ah, fuck more so?
Speaker 1: Hold on, No, I'm here, I'm with you. I should
Speaker 1: brought water. Can you have any water?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: We had water.
Speaker 1: Okay, We'll be fine. We can swallow our own spit,
Speaker 1: clear our throws that way throat throats, I said throats,
Speaker 1: which would be a good plural for the words throat.
Speaker 1: You live a minimalistic lifestyle, but you were striving for more,
Speaker 1: that's what you were saying.
Speaker 2: No, it's not minimalistic. I spend a lot of money
Speaker 2: at hobbies.
Speaker 1: Okay, and stuff like that. Okay, but you would say simple,
Speaker 1: simple for the most part.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, when you when you say you're striving for more,
Speaker 1: could you put towards at all? What that more would be?
Speaker 2: Definitely more money, more money, striving for more money.
Speaker 1: Okay, you spend a lot of money. You're striving for
Speaker 1: more money. What do you do now? You build closes?
Speaker 1: Can you make a lot of money building closets?
Speaker 2: Not at the pace that I'm at, okay, but definitely
Speaker 2: in the future. If I keep going with it, okay,
Speaker 2: I would be able to get to a certain point
Speaker 2: where I would be making a lot more money than
Speaker 2: I am now.
Speaker 1: Okay, and this money, you said you spend a lot
Speaker 1: of money. What do you spend money on?
Speaker 2: Do you know what? You know what Funko pops are?
Speaker 1: Yes? I do know.
Speaker 2: Funk Oh dude, I have. I have quite a few
Speaker 2: of those. I think I have like ninety.
Speaker 1: Five of them with ninety five Funko pops.
Speaker 2: But my whole collection value is worth like five grand.
Speaker 1: I think these Funko pops? H Do they give you
Speaker 1: great joy in life?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: You said that instantly, you didn't have to think about it.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: And so you said you want more money. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you got more money, would you spend it on more
Speaker 1: Funko pops?
Speaker 2: No? No, probably not maybe every once in a while,
Speaker 2: But I mainly want to start saving up more money
Speaker 2: to start traveling.
Speaker 1: To start traveling, okay, you need to save up money
Speaker 1: for a gigantic suitcase so that you can bring all
Speaker 1: the Funko pops with you when you go. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to start traveling, where do you ian?
Speaker 2: I go A couple of places that I have in
Speaker 2: mind are like Japan, I'm gonna go to Japan. I
Speaker 2: want to go to Egypt Cairo.
Speaker 1: Do they have rare funko pops and that you can
Speaker 1: only get in Egypt in Cairo? Or am I overestimating
Speaker 1: the place that funko pops take in your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, a little bit of an overestimation. I mainly
Speaker 2: want to go because of you know how pretty all
Speaker 2: the spaces are.
Speaker 1: Ok Uh these funko pops you without hesitation answered very
Speaker 1: confidently that they give you great joy in life? Could
Speaker 1: you explain why.
Speaker 2: It's more so? Uh, ship, this is okay because it
Speaker 2: kinda reaches just pressed the button.
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no way.
Speaker 3: He let me.
Speaker 1: Let me see that, ruth Like, there we go, beful,
Speaker 1: there we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I guess it's more so hinting towards like
Speaker 2: childhood stuff coming from a little bit of a poor family,
Speaker 2: buying myself things that I couldn't necessarily have as a kid.
Speaker 1: M okay, and buying yourself things that you couldn't have
Speaker 1: as a kid gives you fulfillment? Yes, are you just
Speaker 1: like stuff from your childhood? In general? Do you have
Speaker 1: a lot of sort of childhood toys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of Legos, a lot of
Speaker 2: comic books, a lot of funk pops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you want more money to travel? What is
Speaker 1: between you and making more money?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to balance school right now too.
Speaker 1: Oh you go to school so well?
Speaker 2: Not fully, but I'm trying to get myself back into
Speaker 2: the groove.
Speaker 1: What do you do at school?
Speaker 3: Ship?
Speaker 2: Right now? I'm just trying to build up enough credits
Speaker 2: at my community college so I can transfer into like
Speaker 2: a regular state school.
Speaker 1: Okay, And then you want to does that like lead
Speaker 1: you to a major that you want to do that
Speaker 1: gets you into career?
Speaker 5: You want to do business?
Speaker 2: Uh? Business and business management?
Speaker 1: Business and business management? What what do you want to
Speaker 1: do in business business?
Speaker 2: I definitely want to open up my own store sometime
Speaker 2: some day.
Speaker 1: What kind of store is it related? Really?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I want a comic book store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I want to build or not build, but
Speaker 2: I want to make like a safe space for a
Speaker 2: lot of people that are into stuff like that. So
Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of I want to sell comics collectibles,
Speaker 2: and I want like the store to open up during
Speaker 2: certain hours and then after after hours. It would be
Speaker 2: like a place where people can go and play games
Speaker 2: like dragons, like card games and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Now you said you mentioned safe space. Now you you
Speaker 1: seem like you are more interested in the community aspect
Speaker 1: of this than just the you know, the toys tell
Speaker 1: me growing up or just even now in your regular life.
Speaker 1: These things you identify with comic books, funkal pops. Have
Speaker 1: you found yourself? I guess at the subject of scrutiny
Speaker 1: for your your liking of them, and that is propelling
Speaker 1: you to want to make a place where people who
Speaker 1: enjoy them can all come together. Yeah, i'd say, so, okay,
Speaker 1: what kinds of scrutiny?
Speaker 2: I don't know, not entirely sure if what that word means, but.
Speaker 1: Like shit, you know, like like you said, a safe space,
Speaker 1: space where I guess that implies people won't get made
Speaker 1: fun of when they're doing you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, well yeah, because I know that a lot
Speaker 2: of people like look upon people who are really into
Speaker 2: that and are like, oh, your fucking nerd, and like,
Speaker 2: go do that in like a private space, like we
Speaker 2: don't want to see you. Sure, because like if you like,
Speaker 2: most of the people that like walk into like a
Speaker 2: coffee show or something like that. They're they're just like
Speaker 2: if you see someone playing a game like that and
Speaker 2: they're like, why the fuck are you doing this here?
Speaker 2: M So I want I want to have a space
Speaker 2: for people to just go not feel like ashamed for
Speaker 2: doing things that they like.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you often felt ashamed for doing things that
Speaker 1: you like?
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Sometimes if I'm like in a bookstore, if I'm
Speaker 2: in like the comic book section, shit like that, I
Speaker 2: feel like people have wondering judged the eyes.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. It's interesting to hear you say that, because I'm
Speaker 1: the My favorite part of this interaction has been you answered.
Speaker 1: You answered the question of if these funkl PROCs bring
Speaker 1: these Funkle pops, if they bring Jordan your live you
Speaker 1: answer immediately, You're like yes, and there's no has I
Speaker 1: can tell that they really do. And that's a happiness
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of the people that are
Speaker 1: ashamed that you know what might be giving you those
Speaker 1: those eyes that maybe you feel used to. They they're
Speaker 1: envious of of that. Perhaps possibly you know that's great
Speaker 1: that you have this this jewel thing that gives you
Speaker 1: a lot of joy and you want to open up
Speaker 1: a place where other people can celebrate their joy of
Speaker 1: that thing. And I hope you do it.
Speaker 2: I mean too.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna cost a lot of money. Probably you
Speaker 1: don't have to sell the Funko pops. Probably, but you
Speaker 1: would rather die, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 2: Drew?
Speaker 1: Thank you for talking about echo, Drew. I appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: appreciate you too. I liked that guy. I could sense
Speaker 1: some nervousness from him, some apprehension from him, but I
Speaker 1: really want to get I really wanted to get to
Speaker 1: the core of his emotions, his views, his feelings. And
Speaker 1: I think we did. And I think he showed up
Speaker 1: not having anything to say, and then subconsciously reveal things
Speaker 1: that he wanted to say, and then we tried to
Speaker 1: get him to say more about the things. I have
Speaker 1: a seat. Nice to meet you. What's your name?
Speaker 5: My brother is a big fan of you.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
Speaker 6: I send him a picture of you right now, and
Speaker 6: he's like, you gotta go talk to him, like he's
Speaker 6: super cool.
Speaker 1: Fucky. All right, let's do it. Let's let's have a
Speaker 1: little chat for your brother. Augustine.
Speaker 5: Augustine, Yeah, what's your life life?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 5: My name is Lyle Lyle nice meets man too.
Speaker 1: What's your life like?
Speaker 5: Uh like, what do you mean like in general general?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Pretty good?
Speaker 5: Pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty young.
Speaker 6: It could be better, you know, like I'm still looking
Speaker 6: for a career and whatnot. But yeah, pretty good so far.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a lot of like you said, you're yeah,
Speaker 1: how old are you? I'm twenty two two? And there's
Speaker 1: a question marks, yes, out in the distance, a lot
Speaker 1: of question marks. How are you feeling when you see
Speaker 1: those questions marks on the distance?
Speaker 6: Pretty worrisome? But I'm pretty optimistic about it. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm still pretty young, so I feel that I have
Speaker 6: a lot of time to figure things out and to
Speaker 6: experiment with a few career options and whatnot. Right now,
Speaker 6: I'm actually into photography, so I'm hoping to start a
Speaker 6: photography business, maybe getting to wedding photography.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Is that what's in there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's what's in here here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, what's been what's been uh exciting to you about
Speaker 1: photographing things?
Speaker 5: I just like it's just a passion of mine.
Speaker 6: I like editing photos specifically, I like wedding photography.
Speaker 5: That's my thing, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And why wedding. Is there any aside from the
Speaker 1: fact that it's probably the most lucrative form of photography.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you enjoy about it? Do you?
Speaker 1: Are you like captivated by love?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd say so. I just like the events, wedding events.
Speaker 6: I just like the atmosphere, you know, like everyone's always happy,
Speaker 6: everyone's smiling, and uh yeah, and it's.
Speaker 5: Just it's just a fun time.
Speaker 6: I actually shot a few wedding photography gigs here and there,
Speaker 6: and yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: The time of my life.
Speaker 1: When it's been about four hours, they're slowly packing things up.
Speaker 1: You've gotten all the footage that you need. Do you
Speaker 1: sneak any food? Yeah? Of course, Okay you have to.
Speaker 1: What's the best thing you've eaten in one of these weddings?
Speaker 1: Best thing I've only been to like his fanic weddings,
Speaker 1: So the best thing. It's probably just like tacos or
Speaker 1: like some kindness out that's some steak, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, some stuff like that. But yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: tried any cakes though from weddings. I like hearing you
Speaker 1: say why you like wedding photography? That was a good answer.
Speaker 1: You were like, everyone's happy, it's a good vibe. It's
Speaker 1: it's your your photographing just the positive energy, right, and
Speaker 1: you're trying to capture that in the in the photos.
Speaker 1: Do you hope to one day get married?
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, I think of course I say that now,
Speaker 6: but probably not for like the next ten years or so.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, what about you, man, Man, I have I
Speaker 1: have a complicated relationship with relationships in general, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, man, I like, I love
Speaker 1: I have great friends and I love them, and I
Speaker 1: have great family and I love them. And then think
Speaker 1: about like romantic relationships, is that like they're just they're tricky,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're tricky for everyone. You know. Uh,
Speaker 1: my relationship with my family though, it's it feels less,
Speaker 1: feels more solid, and then you know, those are relationships
Speaker 1: that have been around forever. And to then take a
Speaker 1: new person and be like I'm trying to get you
Speaker 1: on the same level as like my mom or whatever,
Speaker 1: like a person that I've known forever. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: it's a hefty task, you know, if that if that's
Speaker 1: the ultimate goal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, especially just finding trust in
Speaker 6: someone you know.
Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, if you think about it.
Speaker 6: It's a stranger that you're meeting totally and you're slowly
Speaker 6: getting to know each other.
Speaker 5: It's it's very it's anxious. It's all anxiety.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Do you how trusting of a person are you? Just
Speaker 1: in general?
Speaker 5: I'm pretty trusting, probably too good for my own Like, has.
Speaker 1: There been a time where you have been very trusting
Speaker 1: and it is backfired on you?
Speaker 6: That's a yes, I forgive more than you know, I
Speaker 6: forgive more than I should.
Speaker 1: I guess really yeah, and you don't. You don't have
Speaker 1: to tell me if you can't think of anything or
Speaker 1: don't want to share. But has there been a time
Speaker 1: where you feel like you forgave and you shouldn't?
Speaker 6: It's more Yeah, this is I don't want to share
Speaker 6: it too much. But yeah, there's been situations where yeah,
Speaker 6: sure it's been like that, But I don't think it's
Speaker 6: more about like me forgiving the person. That's just like
Speaker 6: trying to forgive myself. A communicating with a person. Sometimes
Speaker 6: someone doesn't want to be have that conversation with you,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Let's say like you do
Speaker 6: X and Y, you do something bad. We're not bad
Speaker 6: in general, just like something that makes a person makes
Speaker 6: like the relationship you know, all tangled, dip and messed up.
Speaker 1: Sure yea.
Speaker 6: And the way I approach it is like, I'm not
Speaker 6: trying to get your forgiveness. I need to forgive myself.
Speaker 6: I want to apologize, I'm in the wrong, YadA, YadA YadA. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but I have to figure myself at the end of
Speaker 6: the day. And if you can accept my forgiveness, then
Speaker 6: I'm okay for that.
Speaker 1: You know. That's uh. I like. I like that way
Speaker 1: of thinking because you can't control whatever. But you can't
Speaker 1: you you have no control you are I like that
Speaker 1: because your brain is operating solely within the things that
Speaker 1: you can control. You can control, You apologize, you do
Speaker 1: the best you can to make, you know, to make
Speaker 1: amends with a person, and then from there it's you know,
Speaker 1: you can't make them forgive you, but you can forgive yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that because it's uh. Again, it's it's dealing
Speaker 1: heavily with the things that are within your control.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a It's like stoicism.
Speaker 1: It's very much.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you are you into stock philosophy?
Speaker 6: I'm into it, but I think that following it, like
Speaker 6: heart to heart, like you know, like hardcore hardcore is
Speaker 6: like too extreme and you're basically a psychopath at that point.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I like part of me wants
Speaker 1: to get there, man, Like well not even just I
Speaker 1: think stoicism in the form of like I have no
Speaker 1: emotions or I don't connect with people is like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's what stoicism is necessarily, but
Speaker 1: like little things like that, like being a master at
Speaker 1: worrying about things that are within my control and not
Speaker 1: worrying about things that aren't. Yeah, that kind of that
Speaker 1: kind of know, I enjoy that idea so much, way
Speaker 1: more than all the other ones, like nihilism and everything
Speaker 1: like that. It's also negative, you know, It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're humans. You know, you can only control
Speaker 1: what you can you can control. Have you had I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait into the ice cream truck passes. Sure, when
Speaker 1: I'm done with this, I'm chasing that guy down.
Speaker 5: He's been walking around for a minute.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know I'm gonna find him because he's
Speaker 1: got this freaking bugs bunny flavored thing that I'm I
Speaker 1: got my eye on. Have you in the past been
Speaker 1: drawn to any of these more negative philosophies. Have you
Speaker 1: been nihilistic in the past.
Speaker 6: Especially after a breakup or something, you know what I mean? Okay,
Speaker 6: like what else can you do? You just have to
Speaker 6: be hating the world, like, oh, I hate I hate this,
Speaker 6: you know, like nothing's gonna change.
Speaker 1: How did you get yourself out of that nihilistic point?
Speaker 1: Unto you seem I don't know you very well, but
Speaker 1: you seem like you're you don't seem very nihilistic to me. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: how did you get yourself out of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Thank you? I don't know you just you know, do
Speaker 5: things that you like to do.
Speaker 6: For me, what really helped me with just communicating with friends,
Speaker 6: with family, really spending time by yourself and getting to
Speaker 6: know yourself, what your faults are when you could be
Speaker 6: better at you know. Yeah, you're just like doing things
Speaker 6: that you can enjoy. Yeah, that's my thing.
Speaker 1: And so these let's go back to these question marks.
Speaker 1: You're experimenting with photography. What else you're you experimenting with
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 6: I'm experimenting with CSI crime scene investigations.
Speaker 1: Crime scene investigation, Yes, sir, that's the I guess that's
Speaker 1: sort of in a in a similar ish realm of photography.
Speaker 1: I was about to say that they have absolutely nothing
Speaker 1: to do with each other.
Speaker 6: But there's forends of photography, you know, like when you
Speaker 6: go to crime scenes and they take the photos of
Speaker 6: the dead bodies and stuff.
Speaker 1: Would that be like your ship?
Speaker 5: I tried it and it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you tried it? Where do you
Speaker 1: go to try out photograph?
Speaker 6: And just like internships, you know, courses and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like going to get training
Speaker 1: the police.
Speaker 5: Not like a vigilanta or nothing like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is inspiring to you about crime scene investigation?
Speaker 5: I just like the service.
Speaker 6: I like the idea of going to a place, looking
Speaker 6: at all the evidence and using it to someday collect
Speaker 6: enough evidence to like convict the bad guy, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. And it's a it's a very it's
Speaker 6: a very humbling position too. So it's a very humbling
Speaker 6: position too, because you know, you're surrounded by hard things,
Speaker 6: you're surrounded by negative things all the time, and somehow
Speaker 6: you have to get the job done and do what
Speaker 6: you have to do to like comfort a victim or
Speaker 6: solve the case. You know per se and I really
Speaker 6: like that, but it's pretty hard to get into. You
Speaker 6: need some good experience to get into that, which I
Speaker 6: don't have, so which is why I'm experimenting with photography
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 5: In the meantime.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you're again like doing everything that's in your control, right,
Speaker 1: some of these question marks, there are things that aren't
Speaker 1: in your control. They're like, oh, this field is hard
Speaker 1: to get into these it's hard to get clients for photogets,
Speaker 1: this and that. But everything that's within your control you're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I love that that way of approaching thing.
Speaker 7: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Does that make you less anxious at all? Just knowing like, okay,
Speaker 1: at least I am giving all I've got to this question, mink.
Speaker 5: It's a work in progress.
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone just jumps into like all right,
Speaker 6: I'm going to control my emotions today. Like you know,
Speaker 6: there's feelings of anxiety for sure of on sureness, but
Speaker 6: you know we'll exposure.
Speaker 5: You know, it'll go away. You know, that's that's my thing.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you at the park just walking around
Speaker 1: by yourself?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm actually not from here, from a long beach.
Speaker 6: It's like thirty minutes away from here?
Speaker 1: What are you doing here?
Speaker 6: I went over to apply for a photography position at
Speaker 6: a Harley Davison.
Speaker 1: Dude, you're a hustler. Maybe fine this question mark, sir,
Speaker 1: what's what's a question mark? There needs to be a
Speaker 1: new symbol for like a question mark that will eventual
Speaker 1: like like a cocoon mark. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like there's a question, and it's a question right now,
Speaker 1: but it is inevitable that the question mark will turn
Speaker 1: into a beautiful exclamation point butterfly. Right, we need a
Speaker 1: new symbol for whatever you got going on because you're inevitable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from how I s thank you?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Of course you're right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it's like a cocoon. It's there, but yeah,
Speaker 6: not there yet. Yeah, not for sure for sure, but
Speaker 6: thank you, man. I appreciate that. I'm just trying, you know,
Speaker 6: trying my hardest out here. I think we're all trying,
Speaker 6: you know, to be who we want to be and whatnot.
Speaker 6: But yeah, what got you into this? Like we always
Speaker 6: like this when you're young? Did you want to talk
Speaker 6: to people? Like did you have that urge?
Speaker 1: I was looking through my old journals. Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't journal as much as I did in the past,
Speaker 1: but I was looking through a journal from four years ago.
Speaker 1: I started this two years ago, and at the end
Speaker 1: of my journal, I wrote, I want to get better
Speaker 1: at talking to people. And this was before I had
Speaker 1: the idea to do this, and so I think it's
Speaker 1: been a it's been a warm in my mind for
Speaker 1: a while, you know, to be doing this.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks man, that's hard for so.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm for me. It was kind of
Speaker 2: you started.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you started this off like you
Speaker 1: looked very nervous, and now you look very chill.
Speaker 5: Thank you think, which is.
Speaker 1: Something I love seeing that too. And this has to
Speaker 1: see it people all the time, like the start off.
Speaker 1: I see it myself all the time where I start off.
Speaker 1: I walked up here with my fucking thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: is this a stupid idea to come to I've done
Speaker 1: this a billion times. Every time I do it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is a stupid idea. And then I'm a little
Speaker 1: nervous and now I'm here in the moment, so and
Speaker 1: it's trained me. It's interesting because now when I recognize
Speaker 1: an anxiousness within me at the beginning of something. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't give it any any attention but anywhere,
Speaker 1: because I just know it's inevitable that it goes away
Speaker 1: and that I this gets to a point where I
Speaker 1: feel comfortable or it doesn't, but I just powerful. Eventually
Speaker 1: I will feel comfortable again. Stoicism, right there, A God,
Speaker 1: You're great man. What's your name, Augustine? Is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the computer.
Speaker 6: Uh No, just have a great one and do what
Speaker 6: you gotta do. You know what I mean, and stay strong.
Speaker 6: That's utiful.
Speaker 1: Thanks for talking to a sure man. Good luck with
Speaker 1: your photography. Man, I fucked to that guy. He was cool.
Speaker 1: I love I love seeing it and other people and
Speaker 1: in myself situations where you start nervous and then you
Speaker 1: just breeze through it.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: I think that happens enough times you start to recognize
Speaker 1: the familiar journey of that and h keeps you calm
Speaker 1: as you navigate it. But I like that guy. He
Speaker 1: was a good homa and I wish him luck in
Speaker 1: uh photography, and I wish him luck in his dead
Speaker 1: people photography business.
Speaker 2: How's it going?
Speaker 1: It's going good man. What's your name?
Speaker 7: Sandro?
Speaker 1: Sandro? Yours Lyle, mister Lyle Gecko, mister Lyle Gecko.
Speaker 7: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: What's what's your life like?
Speaker 7: That's fine? I guess, okay, how about yours?
Speaker 1: What would make it better?
Speaker 7: You want to make it better?
Speaker 1: I would make it better.
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Okay, he just just made my day.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: What are you are you?
Speaker 1: What's bringing you here to this park?
Speaker 7: Actually? I just want to enjoy him on Saturday, okay,
Speaker 7: and learning some texts.
Speaker 1: Learning some text yeah, I memorize what kind of text?
Speaker 2: It's for a script?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Are you an actor?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh? What kind of What kind of acting do you do?
Speaker 1: Dramatic acting, comedic acting.
Speaker 7: Whatever you want? I know I'm not that good in comedian. Well,
Speaker 7: actually I would like to act as a get coal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I should have brought an extra suit.
Speaker 7: If you had another one, I would definitely word it
Speaker 7: and I would take a swim, I promise I do.
Speaker 1: Kind of it's getting a little high. Do you kind
Speaker 1: of want to dive into the lake at some point?
Speaker 7: Maybe I should wear swan like the boats?
Speaker 1: Did you move to La to become a star.
Speaker 7: No, not really, just to to live that life. I
Speaker 7: like to act. It's not the goal actually to be
Speaker 7: a star. But I just I feel so many emotions
Speaker 7: when I act. What kind of emotions the whole bunch,
Speaker 7: from happy to said. I can feel that if I
Speaker 7: act in like in front of a camera, but I
Speaker 7: can't feel it in my personal life, like if I'm
Speaker 7: just talking to a normal person's average persons. I never
Speaker 7: get those emotions which I get when I do acting.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, tell me, okay, give me a Let's start
Speaker 1: with just any emotion that comes to your mind that
Speaker 1: you get when you're acting that you don't get in
Speaker 1: your real life.
Speaker 7: Really, sadness, deeply sadness with tears. I can't have tears.
Speaker 1: Really, you don't get deeply sad in your own life?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I get said, of course, I guess everyone gets.
Speaker 7: But I never can. I never can cry. I mean
Speaker 7: once in two years I can maybe have two or
Speaker 7: three tears. But I like to have tears. I think
Speaker 7: it's kind of a nice feeling, but I don't get
Speaker 7: it often. But when I act, the tears are coming.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're acting and you're giving these tears, do
Speaker 1: you think that those tears, although they are product if
Speaker 1: you're acting, come from a real place.
Speaker 7: I guess they're come from a real place. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: pretty sure of that because I'm thinking about real moments
Speaker 7: in my life which made me almost had tears in
Speaker 7: my real life. But now when I act, the tears
Speaker 7: are coming. When I think back, it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: something psychic.
Speaker 1: What kinds of things make you sad?
Speaker 7: What kind of things make me sad? Yeah, that's a
Speaker 7: good question. It makes me sad if people don't treat
Speaker 7: the nature right, if they like throw away waste or
Speaker 7: just throw cigarettes into the lake, or I don't know,
Speaker 7: kick animals. Some things make me really sad. Or if
Speaker 7: people don't help each other, if they are honking at
Speaker 7: each other on the streets, I hate that. I would
Speaker 7: never do that because I think it's very rude. What
Speaker 7: do you think?
Speaker 1: I also I think it's very weird too, when people
Speaker 1: hawk on the street. I think that honking, like cars
Speaker 1: don't really need horns, because honking is less of a
Speaker 1: thing that provides solutions to problems and more of just
Speaker 1: an expression of anger for the sake of that expression. Right,
Speaker 1: So car horns make you cry people being meant to
Speaker 1: animals makes you.
Speaker 7: I agree, definitely.
Speaker 1: And when you are acting and you're crying, you're thinking
Speaker 1: about these things.
Speaker 7: Not about the car honking, but yes, about all Yeah.
Speaker 1: What what's another emotion that you channel for reacting.
Speaker 3: Like real?
Speaker 7: I would say, real, honest happiness, because I don't get
Speaker 7: these feelings a lot, a lot. I'm not one of
Speaker 7: the sunshine persons which can walk like this the whole day.
Speaker 7: I mean, I of course I'm happy sometimes, but not
Speaker 7: not all the day. And it's not that it's not
Speaker 7: the same. You get it.
Speaker 1: You're not a very happy person just in general, or
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 7: Would say that, I'm just average, I guess happy, not just.
Speaker 1: Do you wait? Okay, So when you're acting and you're
Speaker 1: channeling happiness, what are you thinking about when you're channeling that?
Speaker 7: Oh, just very little things in life which made me
Speaker 7: sometimes really happy, Like if I see someone picking on
Speaker 7: waste and throw it into the garbage can or something
Speaker 7: like that, that can make me really happy. It's just
Speaker 7: a few seconds of a day, or like if I
Speaker 7: talk to you right now, that makes me happy.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm glad that talking to me. It
Speaker 1: has made you happy. That's very sweet.
Speaker 5: Have you say, I.
Speaker 7: Hope it's the same for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking to you has made me happy as well.
Speaker 7: Actually it should make you happy, otherwise you probably not
Speaker 7: do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I feel similar, and I.
Speaker 7: Like costumes also.
Speaker 1: Well have you ever do you think wearing a costume
Speaker 1: would make you feel happy?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. I got a tiger, which I were every
Speaker 7: year at Carnival.
Speaker 1: Now I'm what what emotion? What about anger? Do you feel? Anger?
Speaker 7: Not that often. Actually, it's more sadness than anger, which
Speaker 7: I feel because I do a lot of sports. It's
Speaker 7: maybe because of my workouts. I'm just calming down every
Speaker 7: day so I never get on a high level or
Speaker 7: it's never it never gets big.
Speaker 1: What's your dream role?
Speaker 7: Dream role? To be a GETU? That would be cool.
Speaker 1: I think that would be cool too. It's fun being
Speaker 1: a get go I guess.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 7: Isn't it hot?
Speaker 1: It is hot, but I'm kind of getting used to it.
Speaker 1: It's been chill talking to you. I've you're calming me
Speaker 1: down a little bit. I feel like I've been out
Speaker 1: here for about two hours.
Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that in here too.
Speaker 1: You know you've been here for two hours? What have
Speaker 1: you been doing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just memorizing texts.
Speaker 1: Can you recite what you memorized at all?
Speaker 7: You want to hear it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can I do.
Speaker 7: It's like I'll have a bowl of your raising brand.
Speaker 7: You want to share this? That was the first two lines,
Speaker 7: and if you want to get the script, I can
Speaker 7: give you and you can read a part.
Speaker 1: I think I'll wait until the final product is out
Speaker 1: on TV. Is a Raisin brand commercial?
Speaker 7: Almost? No, it's about that's from a script from Silver Linings.
Speaker 7: Do you know the movie Say.
Speaker 1: A Linings Playbook?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought it was a Raisin brand commercial.
Speaker 7: No, it's not that there. It's a long story. Okay,
Speaker 7: put it away, did you?
Speaker 3: Hmm?
Speaker 1: What are you feeling right now?
Speaker 7: Column? I'm looking forward to to go to Panda Express after.
Speaker 1: That's why I go after this really Yeah.
Speaker 7: I love Panda I like Pan Express too.
Speaker 5: That's just the.
Speaker 7: Best fast food. I don't like to call it fast
Speaker 7: food because there's rice and vegetables and vegetables.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm looking forward for this and I'm going out.
Speaker 1: Thank you, meet you man, Thank you for talking to
Speaker 1: a gecko. Hello is Ashley? Yes? How are you doing? Ashley?
Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you get Ashley? It says here
Speaker 1: that you're thirty three years old, you're from Texas. It
Speaker 1: says you're having trouble dating on because it's hard to
Speaker 1: get guys to actually meet up with you. Tell me
Speaker 1: more about about this this issue that you were having
Speaker 1: on Tender.
Speaker 8: Well, I feel like it's not really the meeting up.
Speaker 8: It's more like the communication and stuff. So like right now,
Speaker 8: I have probably like sixty matches right, and none of
Speaker 8: those sixty, I only have like five active conversations, like
Speaker 8: five people that have actually messaged me or I've messaged
Speaker 8: them first and they responded right, and it's like we'll
Speaker 8: get to the point where we exchange numbers and then
Speaker 8: it's like just the weirdest shit. Or like the main
Speaker 8: thing that it seems really common is like I have roommates,
Speaker 8: and then a lot of the guys that I would
Speaker 8: talk out too are like I have roommates too, and
Speaker 8: I'm like, WHOA, you can't come to my house And
Speaker 8: I'm like, well you my house, and I'm like what
Speaker 8: the It's like always something. Then there's these guys that
Speaker 8: have like four or five kids, and you know, I
Speaker 8: was like all this weird extra bultion. All I want
Speaker 8: to do is just fucking really nice dude and like
Speaker 8: chill and hang out and some boat and friendship together.
Speaker 8: Happening to me And I'm wondering, isn't like.
Speaker 2: This is a lot?
Speaker 1: This is a lot going on? Here is going on here?
Speaker 1: It's a lot, Ashley's a lot. There's a lot going
Speaker 1: on here. Okay, So listen, first of all, the like
Speaker 1: you off the gate, you started out with this roommate
Speaker 1: thing about how he's got roomates. So you've got roommates.
Speaker 1: So I mean, are you just looking to like are
Speaker 1: you just like looking to like meet somebody off tin
Speaker 1: Tinder and just like hook up with them? Are you
Speaker 1: looking to like go out on dates?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What do you what do you actually like desire out
Speaker 1: of your out of this experience?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I'm open to both, but it's like
Speaker 8: neither as you really have at the moment. I've only
Speaker 8: been on tender for probably like three months, four months,
Speaker 8: and I've actually met.
Speaker 1: Up with.
Speaker 8: Uh three guys.
Speaker 1: Three guys was horrible? Yeah, well okay, all right, so
Speaker 1: you've been up with three guys already. Okay, so so
Speaker 1: why were they horrible?
Speaker 8: Okay, the guy that I actually messed around it, I
Speaker 8: think that's It's also like I now I may be
Speaker 8: in maybe in my dream because the guy who actually
Speaker 8: met up with he doesn't want to do the date
Speaker 8: stuff and that's cool, but also the sex is fucking horrible.
Speaker 8: And I was like, I'm the sucking open person, Like
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, we can try this, so we can
Speaker 8: try that, and it's still just really worth it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The first guy, the sex was just bad. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about the other two guys?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the other guy he was into like the kink
Speaker 8: lifestyle and that he was into some stuff that I
Speaker 8: just wasn't comfortable with basically like restraining me and doing
Speaker 8: all this other kind of stuff like I do we
Speaker 8: don't have to give the miller, but like that was
Speaker 8: just beyond my comfort field. So that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Okay, difference in and sexual preference stuff. The third guy.
Speaker 8: The third guy was fucking married. After we met, like
Speaker 8: on the date, we met about this really nice little
Speaker 8: restaurant and it was everything was going so great, Like
Speaker 8: there was chemistry, the conversational, he was handsome. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's a bit and then he's like yoh, so my wife.
Speaker 8: I'm like, wait what you never what? Like, oh my god?
Speaker 8: So that obviously didn't work.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean listen, did he not? So he
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't have included in his profile that he
Speaker 1: was married, not at.
Speaker 8: All, because why would I waste my time?
Speaker 1: It's true? Okay, So not there these three guys worked out.
Speaker 1: Uh listen, Ashley, it might just take you a little
Speaker 1: bit of time to find the situation that you're looking for.
Speaker 1: It might just be a numbers game for you, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Okay, So I mean I would
Speaker 1: just would I just wouldn't give up. And by the way,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You're talking about how it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to get guys to meet up with you.
Speaker 1: Every single man that you meet on tender h where
Speaker 1: you want to sort of bring up the hey, let's
Speaker 1: meet in person thing, you're making their lives a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot easier.
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, if you want to take that
Speaker 1: initiative to you know, say hey, let's meet up, everyone
Speaker 1: you talk to about that will be you know, receptive
Speaker 1: to it. If if my if my my predictions about uh,
Speaker 1: you know, guys on Tinder are correct, h they'll they'll
Speaker 1: they'll be happy to mat it with you. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: stay safe, you know, don't meet up with anyone crazy
Speaker 1: like vet people first, you know, yes, but uh, if
Speaker 1: this is if, if that's what you want is to
Speaker 1: meet up with a bunch of people so you can
Speaker 1: find the right one and then feel free to take
Speaker 1: that initiative instead of just kind of waiting around for
Speaker 1: for it to happen. Is the thesis of what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: That's really some of the risk. I really appreciate that
Speaker 8: because I'm kind of waiting for them to come to me,
Speaker 8: you know, like, oh, they'll message to me first, or
Speaker 8: if they want to, they'll let me know. But I
Speaker 8: think it's solid advice.
Speaker 1: For yeah, fuck that, fuck all. Whatever the gender roles,
Speaker 1: the guys gotta do the fucking just. If that's what
Speaker 1: you want, just take the initiative for it.
Speaker 8: Gotcha, good?
Speaker 1: Good? What's your what's your name again?
Speaker 8: Ashley?
Speaker 5: Ashley?
Speaker 1: Ashley? Good luck to you. Don't get in it where
Speaker 1: a condom? They're female condoms, right, how does that work?
Speaker 1: You just like put it in your.
Speaker 8: I imagine it might be similar to way you know
Speaker 8: they have those clips your period maybe something like that,
Speaker 8: but it's like goes up in your eye. Honestly, I
Speaker 8: don't know.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not so sure. You know, have fun, don't
Speaker 1: get pregnant, or do if that's what you want, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Uh? Mary is your name again?
Speaker 5: Mary?
Speaker 8: Actually back?
Speaker 1: Ashley? Oh sorry, I'm bad.
Speaker 8: You can stay you just stay awesome, stay sext back.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Have a good rest of the night.
Speaker 3: Never think.
Speaker 1: It goes on the line, Think of your phone calls
Speaker 1: every night.
Speaker 3: Never think and goes to on his hide.
Speaker 1: You're teaching you a cloud in the middle of your life,
Speaker 1: but he's not ready.
Speaker 5: An expert