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Speaker 1: Celebrity Club.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Jeopardy. I'm your host, Maam Bolonic, and

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Speaker 2: we have some really amazing contestants. Today. We have Terry Joiners,

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Speaker 2: a violin teacher from Indiana. Hi Terry, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Hi, Miam And hello to everyone in the fourth grade

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Speaker 1: at Dalton Elementary?

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Speaker 2: Hi kids, Ah, Terry, that's a really interesting outfit you

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Speaker 2: have on.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. Yes, this tie was actually a gift

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Speaker 1: from my uncle, who is a big Spanish American war boof.

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Speaker 2: That must have gotten you prepared for Jeopardy. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into it. Choose a category museums, American literature, historic names

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Speaker 2: or historic sites.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take historic sites for four hundred, please, Maam.

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Speaker 2: You got it. I know my favorite historic site Israel.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty four, this seventeenth century Quaker who governed

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Speaker 2: a colony was made an honorary US citizen.

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Speaker 1: Oh crap, I'm nothing the buzzer, right, Terry? Who what

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Speaker 1: field six? Who is Benjamin Franklin?

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Speaker 2: Wrong, Terry, But it looks like no one else is

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Speaker 2: here at this jompany game. So let's do category museums.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take museums for six hundred. Miam.

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Speaker 2: Terry is currently a negative six thousand. Let's hope he

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Speaker 2: gets up there. The Vatican has an entire museum devoted

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Speaker 2: to these darn people of ancient Utria.

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Speaker 1: Terry, who are the Utrians close?

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Speaker 2: I'll give it to you the etruscans. Yay, so you

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Speaker 2: are at negative four thousand.

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, getting under the gun here.

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Speaker 2: One more, Let's see if we can get you back

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Speaker 2: up to zero category. American literature, Washington Irving's tale of

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Speaker 2: this Farmer who takes a big Snooze was based on

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Speaker 2: a German folk tale Germany. I love what they're doing

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Terry, who is rympel Siltskin?

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Speaker 2: So close? Answers rip van Winkle, Terry, you're negative ten

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Speaker 2: thousand right now. But it's been a good go and

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Speaker 2: I've loved having you on. There are tons of fun.

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Speaker 2: Oh darn any message out there for your friends and

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Speaker 2: family viewing.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say to my partner George, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry that I let you down, but I promise that

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Speaker 1: I'll make you a big marshmallow soufle tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure sure just gonna love that. All right, good

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Speaker 2: night everyone, We'll be back tomorrow with another episode of Departy.

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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends,

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Speaker 1: you filthy horse. Your husband's gone and we've got books

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Speaker 1: and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books,

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Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir, it's Martini. Celebrity Book Club,

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Speaker 1: Read it while it's hot, Celebrity poop Club, Tell your secrets.

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Speaker 1: We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are a loud

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Speaker 1: celebrity book say it loud and cloud Celebrity book Club.

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Speaker 2: Buzz me in. I brought the queer vow.

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Speaker 1: Hey best friend. Okay, I'm sure this's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: like not viral anymore, but the time of this episode

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Speaker 1: comes out, But like, we need to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Luke Combs, Oh Tracy Chapman performance that rock donation.

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Speaker 2: When you hear this three weeks later, I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like we talked about this in the wine episode.

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Speaker 1: But it is just like, so Grammy's to be like

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Speaker 1: you didn't expect a country star to be singing with

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Speaker 1: Tracy Tabby' kind of like, well, that cover was like

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Speaker 1: the number one on the radio all year, So it's yeah, crazy,

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Speaker 1: it's more of.

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Speaker 2: The craziest thing is that she Shelley miscavenged herself. She's

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Speaker 2: just been like a grumpy lesbian.

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Speaker 1: Like which we heard two decades.

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Speaker 2: Sam buck Rosen listen to his hot country gossip radio

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Speaker 2: show OKFM.

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Speaker 1: Where he revealed that Tracy Chapman doesn't tip or do

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Speaker 1: we hear that in confidence? And now we're sort of

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Speaker 1: spilling that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now we're spilling the tea on main air.

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Speaker 2: iHeart radio.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, y'all. Okay, it's not freaking rocket science.

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Speaker 2: Lesbians don't tip. But I feel like she's just been

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Speaker 2: sitting pretty and Luke Combs has made her a whole

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Speaker 2: bucket of cash this year. Yeah, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: she just knew people were so horny to have her

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Speaker 2: come back on No. I mean, yeah, I got chill

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Speaker 2: seeing them duet. She was looking good for like sixty five.

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Speaker 1: I think we can all agree that she looked damn fine,

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Speaker 1: damn fine, hydrated in her lane, unbothered.

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Speaker 2: She's and like it was just so cute to watch

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Speaker 2: the Luke Cones look so nervous and grateful, and he

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Speaker 2: kept on looking over to her being the I've got

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Speaker 1: It yeah, and his little blazer she was wearing.

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Speaker 2: It's very like jen X to wear like such like

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Speaker 2: totally cool and ninety style and we're like nineties straight

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Speaker 2: feel like painted on.

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Speaker 1: Denim page denim. You thought she would be like more

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Speaker 1: Steve Jobs and like black Turtle and like tucked into

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Speaker 1: the straight leg and make me more loose. I think

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Speaker 1: that's just how she to be, kind of trying to

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Speaker 1: show like how much she's still got it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hell yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And she's sitting pretty in her curves and I apologize.

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Speaker 2: You know who's getting into those curves. I looked at

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Speaker 2: who her patna is folk, excuse me? My favorite?

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Speaker 1: Her partner is the Fountain assuming.

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Speaker 2: Yes, her partner is going to your Turner aka Gabby

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Speaker 2: Gabby Devo. Oh you're fucking Gabby Devot.

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Speaker 1: If you guys haven't seen in two of the l words,

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Speaker 1: please stop listening to this.

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Speaker 2: Turn it off and like educate yourself, for goddamn ones,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. GWe Turner, who also was in the acclaimed

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Speaker 2: Quiffilm Watermelon Woman, and I think also in the movie

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Speaker 2: High Art, which also Queer Movie Club and Let's Fucking Go.

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Speaker 1: That's such an iconic lesbian power couple. I know. Also,

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Speaker 1: like one of your turners seems like she's a huge bit.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're like sending back like so many fucking

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Speaker 1: satan salads or whatever at like power.

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Speaker 2: Bowls with some satan ge is just like the sesame

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Speaker 2: are dressing doesn't what it used to is like send

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Speaker 1: She's like, sorry, are it's even toasted because they don't

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Speaker 1: of the bottle from Trader Joe's and they're like, oh no.

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Speaker 2: We farm these toasted sesame seeds today, and then they

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Speaker 2: go back to it. They're probably like gorgeous, but like smallish,

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Speaker 2: probably like classic castro like townhouse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that lesbian's are like never being

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Speaker 1: that rich. Yeah, she shouldn't be old school rich because

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Speaker 2: Well then Luke Comb just made her a bunch of money.

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Speaker 1: And she just like made another like million this year.

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Speaker 1: But I do feel like, you know, lesbian's are always

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Speaker 1: with investments.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, if we will get to the book. This

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Speaker 2: is a crazy story. I heard about Tracy Chapman on

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Speaker 2: TikTok dot com, my new favorite website. So she dated

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Speaker 2: Alice Walker, author of The Color Purple, right in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: But Alice Walker's daughter was like, also, maybe almost about

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Speaker 2: to date Tracy Chapman and then Tracey, so something's got

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then Tracy chose the Alice Walker, which is again

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Speaker 2: something's gonna.

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Speaker 2: And was like, oh, I want the older one and

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Speaker 2: so but felt bad so invested in Alice Walker's daughter's

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Speaker 2: Alice Walker's daughter had been like, I really want to

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Alice Water's daughter ever went to Alice

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Speaker 1: Walker's daughter's cyber cafe to go write her cookbook.

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Speaker 2: Any singer being like, I'll take twenty minutes on that

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Speaker 2: Dell number three coming home. So then when Alice Walker

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Speaker 2: and Tracy Chapman eventually broke up, Tracy Chapman divested from

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Speaker 2: literally came to signs of just being like this cafe

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Speaker 2: has been closed. Yes, so I really like petty full

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Speaker 2: petty asked lesbian.

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Speaker 1: That's also such an l word plot line, right.

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Speaker 2: It's like already like after rejecting her but then dating

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Speaker 2: her mom, but then like guiltily investing is like I'm

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Speaker 2: shutting it down. It's wow, yeah, no, we need to

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: And this is now my pleasure in business. Don't make actually,

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Speaker 1: don't not invest in your lover's daughter's cyber cafe if

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna pull funding when you break up.

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Speaker 2: It's a lesson is old time.

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Speaker 1: But also like, don't accept money, yes, from your mom's love,

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Speaker 1: don't be if she's like a vindictive lesbian.

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Speaker 2: And sure it's like, don't be that desperate to open

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Speaker 2: the cyber cafe.

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Speaker 1: Look to other sources, yes, fine, friends and family, funding

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Speaker 1: from like from elsewhere. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also just like, why don't you ask? Your

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Speaker 2: mom probably made a certain amount of money from the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. It's like, isn't Alice Wonker also good

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that advance was back in the day.

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Speaker 2: We need to get into the paperwork. It's really twisting.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the mom was kind of just like I'm so

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Speaker 1: over this cyber cafe, Like she needs to do something

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Speaker 1: else with her life.

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Speaker 2: And like like stop talking about the cyber cafe.

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Speaker 1: And she called the finding kind of told her daughter

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Speaker 1: that it was Tracy Binabach.

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Speaker 2: Because maybe she knew. It's like people were going to

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Speaker 2: start buying home computers more and more.

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Speaker 1: How Alice knew because she's using them, She's typing her gateway.

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Speaker 1: She's like, this is the future, sweetheart. Cyber cafes are

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Speaker 2: I talked about Microsoft rep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay. In other San Francisco lesbian.

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Speaker 2: News, we are doing we read a book.

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Speaker 1: Now, who's the book would you read? Now? I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, it must be some famous celebrity, or

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Speaker 1: maybe it's some random nineties chick. I've never heard of it,

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Speaker 1: but it was.

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Speaker 2: A fabulous actress.

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Speaker 1: But then you might say, wait a minute, what about

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Speaker 1: that trans woman who had like a successful streak on

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Speaker 1: Jeopardy two years ago. Surely she doesn't have a book.

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Speaker 2: Who is Amy Schneider the most successful woman ever to

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Speaker 2: compete on Jeopardy?

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Speaker 1: She does have a book, and she doesn't. In the

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Speaker 1: form of a question.

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Speaker 2: The Joys rewards a Curious life. Literally the nerdiest book

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Speaker 2: I've ever read, but also like the queerest book I've

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Speaker 2: ever read, like.

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Speaker 1: The lex Post like.

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Speaker 2: A book, challenge be a queer Jeopardy winner, and again

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Speaker 2: like love you Amy, come on the pod, but like

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Speaker 2: challenge not have a queer book, be about stay with Me,

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Speaker 2: Tarot Taro, eighty d add PolyAm Daria, old school MTV

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Speaker 2: eighties cartoons, Vinyl the March, and.

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Speaker 1: the basement.

438
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Speaker 2: Anyway, Amy Catholic, childhood, working class Ohio mother is depressed,

439
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: which is kind of a random chapter at the end

440
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: that was so I.

441
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: Mean literally every appearance by mom and any memoir, it

442
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: was like Mom was tired, had disease.

443
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 2: And then it's like kind of convoluted where like everyone

444
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 2: tells her that her mom is an alcoholic, but she's like,

445
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: but I never saw my mom drinking. I just think

446
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: she was by polar And instead of saying that she

447
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: was by Polar. They told me that she was an alcoholic,

448
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: and I was like, babe, maybe both like they go together.

449
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go together.

450
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: Club to close the loop on Kelly as you say, yes,

451
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 2: the entire book is about Kelly, and it's like, hey,

452
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: maybe some of this should have gone to therapy.

453
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then she kind of at the end,

454
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: she says, Genevieve was born like sixteen years after me,

455
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: but we still get along. I thought gen Vy was

456
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more gen X also same and then

457
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: at the end she's like, sorry, I know, I like

458
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: didn't mention Genevieve a lot, but I'm actually obsessed with

459
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: her and like we have a great relationship. And I'm like, yeah,

460
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: you mostly only talked about Kelly Kelly.

461
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I totally believe it. She also says that

462
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: the first time my guy was like do you want

463
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 2: to suff my dick on Dyke March, she was like

464
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: an electric shock went through my body that I had

465
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: never felt before, and it was the best feeling I've

466
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: ever had. And then I jerked him off in the

467
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: cab with Mara and Jesse and it's like, that's why

468
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: mar doesn't talk to you.

469
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that was weird. So that was actually

470
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: literally weird. Maybe that's why I talk to you. But

471
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: then like the beginning to always just being like yeah,

472
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm like sure, like I felt weird in my body

473
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: and I was uncomfortable, but like, also, yes, I do

474
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: like to do the sex things. And then it's like

475
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: footnote and then you go to the bottom. It's like,

476
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: uh literally like a lot, Like there's something very like

477
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: that tailor swift kind of like millennial speakage of her

478
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: where she's always just being like, yeah, sorry, not sorry,

479
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with cats.

480
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: No, and she's like, yes, me and Genevieve were trying

481
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: to rescue a cat name meep two days after us meeting.

482
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: It was like too early in the book when she

483
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: was just there was an entire chapter that was her

484
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: listing teachers she had.

485
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: That I am chapters I skipped her describing every teacher

486
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: she's ever had. And when she describes an entire chapter

487
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: what every card in the tarot deck means, it's a

488
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: little bit like.

489
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Recipe blog where I'm just kind of like, what does

490
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: this have to do with anything?

491
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 2: But that's the thing that sometimes recipe blogs are hilarious

492
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 2: and you're reading them being like, okay, you've gone all

493
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: to your mother.

494
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: No when you have gone off, and it's very that

495
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: like review of the sh I was reading the other

496
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: night where it had been about her dead sister and

497
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: how they used to cuddle, and I was kind of like, well,

498
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: now I don't know what comforter to.

499
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: Get amy is like millennial speak, but it's also nerd,

500
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: like gryffindor whatever, even though I've.

501
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: Never fucking like Griffindord. Quitted the chapter in the teacher's chapter.

502
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: I done my first play because my cousin's college production

503
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: of The Music Man needed town kids and it was

504
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: certainly fun. Footnote any time I got to hang out

505
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: with grown ups was fun. I'm like, why is that

506
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: a footnote? Why is why was it? I was like, okay,

507
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: it's your huge nerder and you're like grown ups and

508
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: your cousin was in The Music Man.

509
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Oh this going This is the most actually like millennial

510
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: part where it's just like there's a footnote that's like

511
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: The Music Man, the best musical ever written about a

512
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: man who comes to town to sell over priced instruments

513
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: to people.

514
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Also in the part where she goes there have been

515
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: countless stories about the process of putting on a theatrical

516
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: production from them. In Summer Night's Stream to Noises Off

517
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: to Smash Footnote, the Starcross NBC show centered on the

518
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: attempt to mount a Broadway production of f a original

519
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: music about Marilyn Monroe. One of the most delightfully deranged

520
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen on television is She's like, getting

521
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: so Milady there, and I'm like, she's the most what

522
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: smash is.

523
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: But she defines milady. Here's why she's the most horny

524
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: bisexual ban geek. Here is her explaining why and how

525
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: she is.

526
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Polly in the chapter that's called what is Polygon which.

527
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: Comes after the Tarot chapter, And You're like, okay.

528
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Bitch, no, I know you are the most like Lex

529
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: posting Bay Area Tea for Tea, autistic, adhd Taro focused

530
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: Polly and look.

531
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: I can only speak for myself. This isn't my policy

532
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: prescription for America, but it is true for me that

533
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm happy as of being polyamorous. I am so grateful

534
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: to know what different types of breasts feel like, and

535
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: to see the variety of labia and vaginas out there,

536
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: how they react to stimuli to be exposed to a

537
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: broader range of the human experience. I'm fascinated with the

538
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: female body. I'll be in a complicated way footnote that

539
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: I won't read. I want to become an expert on it,

540
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: and I tend to keep on trying. It's so horny,

541
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: but also just being like I love the way Labia

542
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: racts to stimuli my lower rude.

543
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the most malady lex post and

544
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: it's just like one lex post after another, but I feel.

545
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: Like I did find it interesting the way she talks

546
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: about desire of gender and then kind of like to

547
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: her male attraction and also like her lesbian attraction, because

548
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: she'll be like, I am attracted to women because I'm

549
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: horny for them, but also because like I'm so like

550
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: desiring of the female body. And then like with like men,

551
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: all in.

552
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: The chapter about how to men, I guess I like

553
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: skipped the the book and as a folk I was

554
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: thinking up on it.

555
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: And then in like the man chapter, she's like, oh,

556
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: when the guy was like, do you want to suck

557
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: my dick? Like outside of some Bay area like March bar,

558
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: she was like, Oh, this is the first time I've

559
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: been treated as like a dirty, dirty object that's like

560
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: this guy quote unquote like wanting to fuck a tranny.

561
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: And she was like, I'm turned on.

562
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: By that because she felt like more of a bottom

563
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: and were degraded in that way, which suggests that she

564
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: is being kind of more of a classic lesbian usually

565
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: in her sex life, just being like we are like

566
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: egalitarianly scisory.

567
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's super switchy, Yes, And I do

568
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: feel like it is kind of like our word sex

569
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: in the way where it's like we're both licking each

570
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: other's nipples for.

571
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: A long time, a long time, and it's like a

572
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: lot of each other each other mutual finger like hands down,

573
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: just like so much eye contact.

574
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: So then she does list the men she's been with

575
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: and it is like, of course all days plays and

576
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Airbnb is She's like once Toronto.

577
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: This is what's so fucking like queer about her, because

578
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: like queer people are so like canceling Airbnb, but then

579
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: also like obsessed with airba No, and they're just like

580
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: when I'm in Toronto, I need to be in a

581
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: space like with my own microwave and like my own

582
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: litter box.

583
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: They want. Yeah, it's like queer bul rebsess being like

584
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: I want to be able to make like nasty like

585
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: eggs in my own Airbnb and like latus.

586
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also being just like uh, and I'm

587
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: like worried the Hilton is going to be transphobic, and

588
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: it's like I'm sure they're not.

589
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just saw like a trans hiltan ad Okay,

590
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: I want to read this amazing moment when she's kind

591
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: of discovering how she wants to show her femininity. Basically,

592
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: when she's married to Kelly, who sounds like also the

593
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: most insane, slutty uc b ass girl, she's always like, yeah,

594
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: we were Polly and Kelly was sleeping with the homeless

595
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: guy she met an open mic. I was totally fine

596
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: with it, and Cam was actually totally cool and like

597
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: egged me on to fuck this chick Atriana, who I

598
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: thought was out of my lead. Oh.

599
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: It's like there's actually this part of this book where

600
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: we're like, this could be so Michelle t if you

601
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: were like Kelly, you in like a more exciting way,

602
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: which is be like me, my improv wife had a

603
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: really super amazing relationship with Cam, and I totally respected it.

604
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: She's also doing that Polly thing where she's trying to

605
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: convince us that, like they had this amazing marriage with

606
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: amazing communication, everyone should be Polly and being like, here's

607
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: the thing, I was never mad when Kelly slept with

608
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: like more people, and yes, Kelly did sleep.

609
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: With and it was like foot a lot more. And

610
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: you're like, you soal, I'm mad. You sound like you

611
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: haven't forgotten about it.

612
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: And then finally at the end of the book, she's like,

613
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: so me and Genevieve are Polly, and maybe I am

614
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: actually a little mad at Kelly, and you're like, you

615
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: think because you wrote a whole book about it.

616
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: And then just like the whole time, when you're like

617
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: uh huh and Jeopardy or.

618
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: No, Kelly being in a sketch group called fem Couzy,

619
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: and then Amy Okay is being so like and I

620
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: did write jokes for them, but like I was never

621
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: credited because I was a man at the time and

622
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: I backed out and was being so like, no, and

623
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: I tapped out of getting credit for my fem Cozy

624
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: d And.

625
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: It's like, and yet you're still taking credit now the

626
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: bug uh huh.

627
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: So Amy comes out to Kelly after secret shopping at

628
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: Target for women's clothes.

629
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: This is actually the best part of the book.

630
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: So she's secret shopping at Target for months and getting

631
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: some wigs and some like breastplates and like just hiding

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: them in a drawer and while I put them on

633
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: when she's alone at the apartment. Finally comes out to

634
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: Kelly and is like most people think, like trans women

635
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: are all a dry queens and want to wear like

636
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: eight inch stilettos and like fabulous clothes. But I wanted

637
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: to wear something different. One item of clothing that called

638
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: me early on was a shirt I saw at Target,

639
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: a shapeless workout Aaron sleeptop that set messy bun Target Run,

640
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Get it Done. That was what I wanted to live

641
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: my whole life as myself, including the vast majority of

642
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: it when I wasn't doing anything interesting or girly or exciting.

643
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be well Amy.

644
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: That was all the which is just like, wait, my

645
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: gender is actually messy, but Target run sip Stanley Stanley

646
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: in my airbnb in Minneapolis, being totally cool with my

647
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: partner and all of her other secondary partners.

648
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: And she mentions another like graphic tea at some point

649
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: that was just like there's.

650
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: A Star Wars graphic tea that's mentioned at one point,

651
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: and I forget if that was like her like previous

652
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: guy fashion or like really gender for me new girl

653
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: fashion that.

654
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: Was like her previous guy fashion.

655
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you actually could still could really it

656
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: sounds like they could really fit into your new style too.

657
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: It's really heathered, like walm Art tea.

658
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Because then there's like an ancient empty It is a

659
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: little especial for someone being so Bay Area. She still

660
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: so does like new vintage soft bus tea.

661
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that she's not more into thrifteen Well, I think

662
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: thrifting is like the past for like poor childhood and

663
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: like her dad, like being out of work and like.

664
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Speaker 2: And is that thing right where it's like I'm sure

665
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: actually she wasn't so many grails as a kid, but

666
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: was being like, take my word for it, the eighties,

667
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back. Our clothes were horrible.

668
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean she's just sort of like saying that as

669
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: like a thing to say in her book because it's

670
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: like a classic thing that like any girls, let's not

671
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: talk about the eighties and we'll get into what she

672
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: wears like later.

673
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: But basically, you know, it's kind of accepting being target

674
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: run girl. But then she has this whole chapter on fame.

675
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: This is again before explaining like how she even got

676
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: on Jeopardy is just like how like her and Genevieve

677
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: got like all this like freeze swag now.

678
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh and like randomly comes to the mail and she's like, yeah,

679
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have a toaster that has

680
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: a screen on it, but I do. And we very

681
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: much enjoy the toast for our puppy lint breakfasts that

682
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: we enjoy with meat on our balcony I.

683
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: Have in my notes here. Amy is so moo hahaha.

684
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: She's very more. Also the part where she goes, I

685
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I have no reason to think

686
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: that my dad had sex or any physical connection with

687
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: a woman in the last thirty years of his life.

688
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: And that sucks. Wait, it's just like the end sucks,

689
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: just like I'm sorry, that's fucking sucky poo pants.

690
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's really poly to be like, fuck, my midwestern

691
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: dad who paints Napoleonic figures, like, isn't having like some

692
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: amazing like love making.

693
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Some awesome earth chattering secks with whatever gender he wants to. Oh. So,

694
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: when she finally does talk about Jeopardy almost a last

695
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: chapter of the book, and she like basically reveals that

696
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: there's this entrancing exam that you take online, and she

697
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: does kind of admit to cheating a little bit on

698
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: the entrance exam them Okay, you, I mean, sure.

699
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Right, it's kind of crazy with an exam online.

700
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: So what happens is it's a timed test and there's

701
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: fifty questions with fifteen seconds each, So it's like you

702
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: only have fifteen seconds in which to cheat, so it's

703
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: not like that much time. But she goes, I was

704
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: so excited. I cramed for a few days before. And

705
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: I'll admit the first time I kept a few tabs

706
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: open in my browser with some things I might be

707
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: able to check within fifteen seconds. Oscar Winners, that sort

708
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 1: of thing.

709
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so she had tabs that already had like Oscar

710
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: winners app.

711
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I would Apple Tea and just

712
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: search something really quickly in fifteen minutes or fifteen seconds

713
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: if I had to.

714
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: I would Apple Tea that shit.

715
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: I would suck these Apple Tea that shit, like a

716
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: boss target, run, get it done.

717
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: Apple Tea, making those charts.

718
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: And then she goes, I did this every year. A

719
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: few times I got to the final, so she's been

720
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: like trying to get on Jeopardy for years. At this point,

721
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: I got to the final in person audition and would

722
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: live in Hope the next eighteen months, but I didn't

723
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: get the call and then started again from the beginning.

724
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: So it's like there's a whole process of her like

725
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: doing the online test and then even going in person

726
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: and like not getting a call back, and then finally

727
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: getting the show, and it is like very I guess,

728
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: like so American Idol, but maybe it's less American. I

729
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: think there's just so many people that make it to

730
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: the final round. But it's like I want us to

731
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: Auchi show. I don't think we're getting one.

732
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't think we are. Like I think I could

733
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: like totally slay Mama at some like one about about

734
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: like a nineties indie rock and like I don't know,

735
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: maybe some like historic sites. Yeah, we're like Girfield or like,

736
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, musicians.

737
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: I think we could slam like celebrities crit who is

738
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Dave Grolf. But I feel like there's really nothing about

739
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: the actual experience. And she kind of just like, yeah,

740
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: and then I was winning and it was really great

741
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: and I had a lot of fun and I did

742
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: some creative daily doubles and that was it. And there's

743
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: like just nothing, just nothing about that.

744
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: So what was it like to go home to say,

745
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: maybe your airbnb after the first night you won? Right,

746
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: or even like the movie starting with Fina quiz Lady

747
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: would say, what was it like the day before you

748
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: finally did like beat Ken Jennings streak and win million dollars?

749
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I did think it was interesting how she

750
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: was like made this decision to like use her man

751
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: voice on Jeopardy. Can she like done all this feminization coaching? Yeah,

752
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: And then was kind of like, you know what, I'm

753
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: not going to try to like do the change to

754
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: change who I am for TV, and it's going to

755
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: be better if I'm just like more authentic and in

756
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: my own skin and loving it. And then also I

757
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: can be an example to just sort.

758
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: Of other it's very messy, bun get it done target

759
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: run where it's just being like, oh, only maybe a

760
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: miracle will accept me if I'm just like this trans

761
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: woman who like fully passes and it's like so sexy

762
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: and like talking like this, and it's like, actually, you

763
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: can be like trans woman a little bit balding, big tatch,

764
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: like big sort of pok dress.

765
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, big poked dress kind of like wide next.

766
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that's sexy and empowering and fine yes,

767
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: and Genevieve will still want to suck on your.

768
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Yes and you can say just like one boring fu

769
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: about yourself.

770
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: Well, I watched this clip where it's been a while

771
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 2: and the host is like, hey, Amy, like new ink

772
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: or like what's that tattoo? And it is this like

773
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: whole tarot explanation about like some god ax who was

774
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: like born a boy and like becomes a woman. And

775
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: she does it very succinctly in a like you're telling

776
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: your personal fact. And then it's like and it relates

777
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: to me, and then the Jeopardy host goes nice, inc.

778
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Nice inc. I feel like she's always hung about that

779
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: kind of interaction where she's just like I love when

780
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: there's like a professional, like slightly humorous but subtle acknowledgment

781
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: of my transness that leaves everyone comfortable.

782
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: So she were she was like in computer science, Yeah, before,

783
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: and she talks about coming out to her work crew,

784
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: and she keeps on being like, you know how work

785
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: announcements go, Yeah, gotta keep it slightly humorous but professional.

786
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: And she's like, my name is Amy now, and then

787
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: her office manager like reprints like that's her a.

788
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: Mug, a mug an onboarding mug.

789
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: She's so wine mom. Also because she's obsessed with Sonoma, Like,

790
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean, she lives in the Bay Area, so her

791
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: plan to come out at work is on a work

792
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: trip to Sonoma.

793
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: And they've all had plenty of wine foot and out.

794
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah we did more than just drinking. Oh we drowned

795
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: in it.

796
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: And then her and Genevieve consummate the relationship in Sonoma.

797
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, possible, Okay.

798
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: So I'm curious about and of course she's not gonna

799
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: reveal anything other than this one line. So Ken Jennings,

800
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if Ken Jennings was like feeling very threatened

801
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: by her. I actually know nothing about him, well, because

802
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: so he was the one who had the streak before her,

803
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: and he'd turned that into becoming the host of Jeopardy

804
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: and taking over.

805
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: From He's the blond.

806
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: He's literally the host of Jeopardy. Oh okay, yeah, so like.

807
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: Again and that's to watch her and I'm like nineties kids, know,

808
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm a little more like Alex Trebek or as I

809
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: call it, my.

810
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Em blonnic, my embloonac you said earlier. No, but like

811
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: he like had this huge sugar ashpect and that's why

812
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: he's literally the host of Jeopardy now. So he's seeing

813
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: basically this young gun who maybe is older than him

814
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: come through and like start to become and get all

815
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: the attention. And he's sitting there going, oh, this is

816
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: exactly how I won. Yeah, and now this fucking tarot

817
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: ass Polly she for me, he is going to come

818
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: in and like take my job. So I'm wondering if

819
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: that was like this weird subtle undertone going on. But

820
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: all she says about Ken Jennings is an acknowledgments Thanks

821
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: to Ken Jennings, one of these days, I'm going to

822
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: retire from playing Jeopardy just so Tony will allow us

823
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: to be friends. Thanks to Mitch for the moments of Colm.

824
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: And oh shit, yeah.

825
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: So what's going on there? Yeah, because obviously there's some

826
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: role that's like you can't fraternize with the host, I think, right,

827
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: because like that could be a scene as like, right,

828
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: she's getting special treatment.

829
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: And they're like literally like getting so many like hazy ipa,

830
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: like Souvigno blancs and he's like, okay, like we're gonna

831
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: go crazy on historical site, right.

832
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: And it's like you could say that, but obviously he's

833
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: like I feel like he doesn't want her to win,

834
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: but he also does. I mean I do feel like

835
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: she won just enough in a way that wasn't threatening

836
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: to him and so it actually worked out if like

837
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: he couldn't have orchestrated it better.

838
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 2: I think he's fine with it. From the one club

839
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: I watched where he was being like nice ink amy,

840
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: I think it makes him look amazing.

841
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's like he's willing to pass the torch,

842
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: but he's not passing the torch, you know what I mean?

843
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: Right, Because it's like, well, maybe if she came for.

844
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: Hosting well and if she had one another thirty episodes,

845
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: maybe people would have said, oh, she should be the host.

846
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: And instead she's more kind of in like book Transgalla podcast.

847
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's and book and like, now I also.

848
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: Wonder the reason why. Honestly, she didn't really go into

849
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 2: the details of Jeopardy.

850
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Maybe she's literally not allowed to.

851
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I wonder, and she doesn't want to, like.

852
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: A gag order. No, or she's she's having in the

853
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: back of a cap, you know what I mean.

854
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a hot straight guy from an improv troop.

855
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: She keeps referencing having a podcast.

856
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: She had a pod with her ex wife guess who, Kelly,

857
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: And then I just have this note in here that

858
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: says her wife leaving her for someone who was on

859
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: their podcast, and she was so cool with them, being

860
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Polly that she was like, Yeah, of course the guy

861
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: you're seeing should be on our pod. We're all funky comedians.

862
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: And then miss improv improv right out of that relation for.

863
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: A way out of there.

864
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Yes, and.

865
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if Amy were is that new trans brand

866
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: we discovered both end Well, not really. It's more for masks, yeah,

867
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: that I've been considering purchasing.

868
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: Kind of more about like hip narrowing jeans.

869
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: It's a little bit I can go off on brands

870
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: for trans masks for a second, as I've looked at

871
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: all of them. It's a little bit like just try

872
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: buying men's clothes It's like I do feel like all

873
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: like mask lesbian and trans masks, like fashion exposure always

874
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm having trouble finding men's clothes, and

875
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: the women's section it's always like and buy the good

876
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: fellow target, right T shirt? I mean the big problem

877
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: that I have obviously there's like kip issues and like

878
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: shirts are too long.

879
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: Right, but that's like shirts are too long for everyone.

880
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so this brand of both end maybe send

881
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: me a T shirt and this is my clot they

882
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: suppose you have shorter teth just kind of dragged them

883
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: to I'm curious to try their shorts T shirts.

884
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: I just feel like their tops are looking like too cropped,

885
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: where it's just going back to girls, which is how

886
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: all like queer folks are dressing anyway, which is very like,

887
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: well you've just gone back to like girl at oor

888
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: Ban Outfitters now in your crop tea, right.

889
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: And I was looking at their like totally like straight

890
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: hip and aerian jeans, and then the reviews were like

891
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: they were so tight, right, So I'm kind.

892
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: Of like you're like, who my tray Chapman.

893
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: What is the segment? What does she eat?

894
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: What does she wear? How does she live.

895
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: Okay, how does she live? She basically says that she's

896
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: so add that like her house is a god damn mess.

897
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: It's like, of course it is. Of course it's the

898
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: nastiest queer house I've ever imagined. There's a microwave in

899
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: the litter box.

900
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Her two cats are literally named me meap and feeb

901
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: beep and feep.

902
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: There's cat litter everywhere. There's terror books piled.

903
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: It is the type of house I would go into

904
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: as a maid and be like disaster. But then these

905
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: like funky querdo lesbians would greet me and I'd be like, Okay,

906
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: maybe this will be okay. And then but like one

907
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: hour in, I'd be like, oh, I'm gonna be here.

908
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: You're covered in so much cut hair. There's like no

909
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: way to actually remove all the cat har The cat

910
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: hair is in the grout, it's in the base boards,

911
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: it's on the ceiling for some reason. The couch is

912
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: like dark purple. Then there's like the green.

913
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: Could you move our really really heavy purple couch to

914
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: get the dust.

915
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: There's the dirtiest rug you've ever seen that they got

916
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: like from one like her ex wife's like ex lover's

917
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: ex friend.

918
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: But that's from their improv for SI Studios, and it's

919
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: like so stained and like she's always talking about how

920
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: the reason why she's going to airbnbs is to like

921
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: write this book because her ady d brain would be

922
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: too distracted.

923
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: By all all of the like crap in her house

924
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: and all the like right colored glass ornaments.

925
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: And then she has this whole thing about like how

926
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: she is on like adderall and like now does know

927
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: like if you pick up dirty underwear, it's like a

928
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: thing you can do will make you feel better. But

929
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: I still think the house is an absolute disaster and

930
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: it's very like dildo's collecting cat hair. Big Bucks.

931
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: The dildo's covered in cat hair is pretty much it.

932
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: Do you think it's tiny DV in the bedroom? Lesbian?

933
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: Oh, tiny TV in the bedroom. I was thinking obviously

934
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: tiny TV in the area, which is like so many

935
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: vintage lamps that are like broken. But I'm like maybe I.

936
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Kind of think maybe the TV got bigger, because she

937
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: says like her ideal day being add is to like

938
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: jerk off and watch below deck med right.

939
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: I know it's just like tea, yeah, but then I'm

940
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: just like, the one't the bigger TV. You think it's

941
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: in the Maybe it is in the bedroom and it's

942
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: on top of the darkest chest.

943
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think it's Target gondn't gather fake mid

944
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: century or wayfair Oh okay.

945
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: And then there's like target bins that have like so

946
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: much underwear.

947
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wayfair, fake mid century modern with bins for overflow.

948
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm getting goose bumps. I'm actually getting chills.

949
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: And like she doesn't have a record player because she

950
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: has this whole goddamn chapter about how she like saw

951
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: a record player in an Airbnb and was like, record

952
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: players are so cool. Did you know that Crystal Gail

953
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: is Rena?

954
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel like she is like more Alexa. Yeah.

955
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: But here's the thing she says is when you listen

956
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: to Spotify, it's not as focused as when you listen

957
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: to Vinyl.

958
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: Oh true, And it actually exacerbates her ad d because

959
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: you're thinking what song is gonna come on next?

960
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: Exactly?

961
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: Okay, what does she wear? She's being taro, So she

962
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: is being like funky. I mean, we obviously the target tease,

963
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: but I think that her her style is.

964
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Being a little more like random boutique rock of Bill Polka.

965
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: Dot mostly yeah, but I feel like she's being so

966
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: pin up. No, it's being just like a little bit

967
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: more like frum they like tablecloth, Yeah.

968
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: More like fifties inspired, but it's still.

969
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: And she like a wants to show off her arm tats,

970
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: so she's like very sleeveless vibes with like.

971
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: I feel like she's still maybe as nervous to go

972
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: to anthropology.

973
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: But she should, but she's like still like I'm alt.

974
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: You know, anthropology is like the alt one in the

975
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: family of Banana Republic.

976
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: The twisted fucking sister of Gap.

977
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: The sister you're supposed to not listen to anthropology.

978
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: She's just like being more alt, though I can think

979
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: like more like retro in this way. She's like I

980
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be retro, but I don't want like right.

981
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: She wants it to be retro inspired in this like

982
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: kind of like target way, but like going to an

983
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: actual vintage store. She I like would be like, oh

984
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: my god, this reminds me of so.

985
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: And then I think, like events a little more like

986
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: cocktail dress, but like maybe it's your gown. I feel

987
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: like it's not a vintage cocktail dress. I think it

988
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: is like an Amazon gown.

989
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I think she's on Amazon and she's like looking

990
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: like gown that looks good, looks good. It's like purple

991
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: gown size one x okay, and then the shoe wear

992
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: like I mean she's so converse, she's all but like

993
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 2: dressing up. I'm like, what comfortable heel?

994
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: Is she doing a pump? I don't think she's doing

995
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: a pump, Like maybe she's doing a kitten.

996
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Heel yeah, like kind of a teacher coded yeah, kitten heel.

997
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just like do late in life, trans women

998
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: feel like they're not so like heel, like they didn't

999
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: learn to talking heels vibes or is heels making her

1000
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: feel more like a woman than ever?

1001
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: I think it is making her feel like a woman.

1002
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: But then also like her sis female friends are like

1003
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: girl like I don't even wear heels.

1004
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she like back like she's around like lesbian

1005
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: the whole time, like.

1006
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 2: Hello, like doc Martins.

1007
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, I think it's mostly docs.

1008
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: And they're like fun doc Martins so you can get

1009
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: on sale.

1010
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: What does shale docs eat? She's not vegan?

1011
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: No, and like she talks about loving Chipotle and that

1012
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: has a footnote about how like you need to get

1013
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: real burritos in California.

1014
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: So she's like, she's definitely like go puffing, like go

1015
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: puffing some burritos.

1016
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: She is go puffing. But she clearly like loves her

1017
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: local spots because she's always like referencing a and being like, oh,

1018
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: we were at Tail and Whisk and that will be

1019
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: like footnote, don't go there and ruin blow up my spot.

1020
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: She definitely drinks and she likes crop cocktails, so she

1021
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: is a woman after my own heart.

1022
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: And she gets like a cocktail called like the Whispering Boudoir.

1023
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: Yes, she's absolutely having just like the gentleman's to like

1024
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: at like task and Fallow. And then I think it's

1025
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: just like amazing Reclaim Brewery that.

1026
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: I'll get the balsamic brussels and the Nashville Fried chicken.

1027
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: Yes. Well, as she also says at one of the

1028
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: point in this book, I don't exercise redly, but I'm

1029
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: interested in the concept.

1030
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: She's like, I will go back to it, yeah, but

1031
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: like I don't like it.

1032
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: I was like and like mac and cheese balls.

1033
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: Because she heard like sad food is Kraft mac and

1034
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: cheese Yeah in her like.

1035
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: But then now she's doing like I will splurge and

1036
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: go to Whole Foods and get their like mac and cheese.

1037
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, she's really like twenty ten from to table,

1038
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: like truffle mac and cheese brussels.

1039
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: But she's doing that at the brewery. I don't think

1040
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: that's coming back to the house, coming back to the houses.

1041
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: The go Papa ritos and like some Dave's bread, Dave's

1042
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: bread that she's toasting in her toaster that she got

1043
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: from I didn't even know where.

1044
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: I think she's making the go weird oudan with overcooked

1045
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 2: noodles for not now that she's famous, but before.

1046
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: I think Genevieve is making an overcooked udan. Either wayudan,

1047
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: it's over it's overcooked.

1048
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: Who are you in the book?

1049
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: You you are the dad, the dad painting tiny sold shirts.

1050
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: I feel like you're like, honestly like Speed, I feel

1051
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: like you are like one of her friends that she

1052
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: does still speak to that's like, hey, hey, he's my.

1053
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: Lipsticks, my lipstick. You look so cute in that dress.

1054
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: And she's like, whoa, thanks Steven.

1055
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm a coworker handing her her new mug. Hey, we

1056
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: got you a new mug.

1057
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: Oh wait, you're her work wife, who she was giggling

1058
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: with in son Noma, but.

1059
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Who she doesn't talk to anymore.

1060
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: She's like, me and Stephen actually had all ye I

1061
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: don't know.

1062
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: I just feel like I am not talking to Amy anymore.

1063
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: And she is being so like, do you want to

1064
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: come over for five pm?

1065
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: But you didn't have a huge falling out. You don't

1066
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: think you guys had a falling out.

1067
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: And she's being like, and I don't talk to Stemen anymore.

1068
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: Hey, if you're out there, Stephen, maybe we should get

1069
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: a drink some dimes.

1070
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: That was another footnote in the middle of the book,

1071
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: just hey, Nora, let's get a drink. It's just like

1072
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: it wears thin. Either.

1073
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: Huge question was hey, Dad, if you're out there reading this,

1074
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: it's like, do you speak to your parents or they not?

1075
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: There was no kind of if her parents accepted.

1076
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean it did relate to her when she was like,

1077
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm over Boy Scouts.

1078
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very you being like, I want to

1079
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: go home. I wanted to stay at Girl Scouts because

1080
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm also so I'm Amy when.

1081
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: In the gym the one time she goes to the

1082
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: dim and she's like, I will admit I was attracted

1083
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: to the women's bodies.

1084
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: And I did feel creepy looking at them, but heck,

1085
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm alive.

1086
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: And I no, I mean, you're what they talk about you,

1087
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: you are the predator. Then that we need to pass bills.

1088
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: Literally like lock the bathroom. So I'm coming in because

1089
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: the way she talks about women's bathrooms sounds so fun.

1090
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: She's like everyone's passing lipstick and there's so much advice

1091
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: being given.

1092
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: No, I mean that's true, and that's why it is

1093
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: fun to go in his bathrooms and that's why we

1094
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: love like we love bathroom.

1095
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's passing tampons, yeah left.

1096
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: And just being like, oh I hate this guy.

1097
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: No toilet paper, that's my husband.

1098
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: We'll say someone's.

1099
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: Hello. Where you're exploring appendages? Hello, Yes, I will put

1100
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: them in my orifice that is my mouth.

1101
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: And for some reason, the stimuli does this to my

1102
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: interior cavity that I did not know I could enjoy

1103
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: so much. Tenative, ten me Lord the same time next week,

1104
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: please and thank you.

1105
00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I give this rocking book. I mean it caused

1106
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: such a great conversation between us.

1107
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: Conversation, but like.

1108
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: As a book, I'm Okay, two point nine Tarot cards

1109
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: out of five, because like for her spunk, her honesty,

1110
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: her randomness, her eighty d ness, and like for generally

1111
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: like putting your hair in a messy bun and getting

1112
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: it done.

1113
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: She doesn't even put her hair in a messy bund.

1114
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: I don't think she has that much hair and put

1115
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: it in a messy bunch. She wishes.

1116
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: She could do tracks if she wanted to do the button.

1117
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the idea of being like so

1118
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: big just to be so many fussy. Okay, after we

1119
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: read Charles Strade, I was kind of had this feeling

1120
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: that I actually have been like reading way too many books,

1121
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: way too high, and I'm like too generous because I'm

1122
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: like so many the books we read are just like

1123
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: not actually well written and don't have like I was

1124
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: compelling narrative and that was an actual book. And I'm

1125
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what, we're all grown ups

1126
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: here and like this isn't third grade and I I'm

1127
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: not like graining your fractions homework. And so I'm sorry, Amy,

1128
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: but I'm giving you one out of five Vintage tops.

1129
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: It's just like you are only famous for being on

1130
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: Jeopardy and you don't even give us any tea about Jeopardy.

1131
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: The book is so scattered and random, like the footnotes

1132
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: aren't funny. It's just like, yes, I get it, like

1133
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: you are a random att like Oakland girl, but there

1134
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: just isn't enough here. It was just so not cohesive.

1135
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: It felt like I felt like my time is being wasted.

1136
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: That's so just smell of you. You're obsessed with my time. Sorry.

1137
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: I could have time and value on my internet playing

1138
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: a classics. I couldn't put a Netsky navigator doing my

1139
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: taxes on Quicken and painting my little soldiers.

1140
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: Someone who blends between the binary and time is a

1141
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: fucking construct. I was happy to read your food bog amy. Okay,

1142
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: and Stephen can go to the watch store and demand

1143
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: his time back.

1144
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm heading them right now.

1145
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all, this was fun.

1146
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: See you on Jeopardy. Bye? What is Best for three hundred?

1147
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: The executive producer of Celebrity book Club with Stephen and Lily.

1148
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: Who is Christina Everett?

1149
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: The supervising producer of Celebrity book Club with Stephen and.

1150
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Lily, who is a Buzafar.

1151
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: This producer a Celebrity book Club with Stephen and Lily.

1152
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: Who is Darby Masters.

1153
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: Correct. Wow, you're at twelve hundred.

1154
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: I'll take credits for eight hundred.

1155
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: Ken, okay, and you've doubled up now. The theme song

1156
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: buzz Me in a Celebrity book Club with Stephen and

1157
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: Lilly for.

1158
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: Six hundred was written by this gay man. This gay

1159
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: man ding ding Ding who is Stephen f first the artwork.

1160
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: For the cover of the podcast that you see on

1161
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 2: your podcast app and is a straight.

1162
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Man who is Teddy Blanks of Chips and Y.

1163
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: Correct. The production company that Stephen and Lilly originally co

1164
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: created the podcast with is done.

1165
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh who is Prologue Projects.

1166
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: Correct, you've won. You're our highest gay guy to wear

1167
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: Jeopardy credits ever.

1168
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: Wow. Thank you so much to all my fans for

1169
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: sticking my knee and being with me during this journey.

1170
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: It's been so fun and so rewarding.

1171
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: That's all the time we have.

1172
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, Miam