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Speaker 1: The Around the League podcast. They have connections to the Illuminati.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another additionally Round the League podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hands and I'm joined by room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal. What

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Speaker 1: up boys in Yeah, it's Friday. Mark's funny today. He

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Speaker 1: got a haircut, Oh yeah, and a new shirt I got.

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Speaker 1: I did the thing where I knew I had to

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Speaker 1: usually I go home and take a shower because I

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Speaker 1: I asked this dressed little punk woman to give me

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Speaker 1: came in here. I'm glad that you mentioned that. Because

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Speaker 1: Mark goes to a local chain establishment Floyd's to get

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Speaker 1: his hair cut, I go as well. Uh, Greg, you

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Speaker 1: to a barber? Excuse me? Sorry. To make things awkward

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Speaker 1: is a guy named Camille on so Pulvita here in

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Speaker 1: He plays gentle um like babbling Brook type music with

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Speaker 1: strings like medieval times. Music. Doesn't really talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Nice and tight in and out cash only business. That

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Speaker 1: it's like you've got like punk rock girls cutting your hair.

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Speaker 1: You've got like sex pistols playing at high volumes. My style?

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Speaker 1: Can I broke her a trade? Here? You should? That's

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Mark meet place. I'm perfectly happy. You

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Speaker 1: know what is your style? Your style right now is

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Speaker 1: That's a it's a confusing, don't try to put me

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Speaker 1: in a box. That's that's sort of the style. And

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Speaker 1: Mark up with this new haircut on the around the

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Speaker 1: league paint. As I was getting my hair wash right,

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Speaker 1: she puts this like wet towel, swirls it over your

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Speaker 1: I'm paying for him out the door where in a

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Speaker 1: dream it was in a cold snow he's in a

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Speaker 1: cold setting. It was not in the New England. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think what was saying you should have left that

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Speaker 1: we have a big show today, very excited. We have

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Speaker 1: great Greg coat Cell of NFL Films. He has been

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Speaker 1: on our show before. He always gives us a lot

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Speaker 1: of great insight, whether it's UH watching game tape of

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Speaker 1: NFL games or college prospects. In this case, he's going

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Speaker 1: All right, But before we get to Greg, the other Greg,

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Speaker 1: we do what we always do during the offseason, the

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Speaker 1: glad to hear that. Dan. You wish me a happy

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Speaker 1: Friday three times so far today, and I want to

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Between the two of you, we have a

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Speaker 1: great working relationship and it comes through in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I like to think, Zach, let's do some news, let's

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Speaker 1: Second of all. Every single time something like this happens

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Speaker 1: and the draft should be today or yesterday, and today

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Speaker 1: that's what we're getting. We got this extra two weeks

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Speaker 1: They're voluntary, but the podcast, two extra weeks of the

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell, who um told NFL media is Jeff

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Speaker 1: the NFL will consider stretching the annual draft from three

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Speaker 1: We should have it one day, one round per day.

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on this. Mark Cuban just took

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Speaker 1: in time. Do you want to just maybe give us

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Speaker 1: an overview on your thoughts on him? Sure, And I

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Speaker 1: would hope that people would read the article because, uh,

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Speaker 1: I've pointed out a number of concerns with with Logan

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Speaker 1: Thomas as well. It was not just a puff piece.

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Speaker 1: I was. One of the points I was making in

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Speaker 1: the column was that when Logan Thomas, Now, what do

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Speaker 1: you do is evaluate, say, when Cam Newton came out

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Speaker 1: of Auburn, and many of the concerns that I have

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Speaker 1: with Thomas, and there are significant concerns, by the way,

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Speaker 1: is that those same concerns Everyone felt those same concerns

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Speaker 1: when Cam Newton came out, and it was talked about

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Speaker 1: very openly about certain things with with Cam. But he

438
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Speaker 1: was viewed because of his size, which is freakish as

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Speaker 1: his Logan Thomas, and the way Cam naturally through a ball.

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Speaker 1: Cam has has a big, big arm, as does Logan Thomas.

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Speaker 1: So Cam Newton was viewed as a number one pick

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Speaker 1: in a draft. And certainly people respond to outcomes and results,

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Speaker 1: and Cam on a national championship in his one year

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Speaker 1: at Auburn in the in the best conference in the country.

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Speaker 1: So therefore cam was a winner and a special player.

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Speaker 1: And Logan Thomas, who has many of the same physical

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Speaker 1: attributes as cam Uh, has had struggles throughout his career

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Speaker 1: or for any number of reasons, and I mentioned a

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Speaker 1: number of those. And of course he's viewed as someone

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Speaker 1: who until recently should be changing positions, which is ridiculous,

451
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Speaker 1: but that's the way he was presented. And you you

452
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Speaker 1: tend to lean towards you look for armed talent, and

453
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Speaker 1: you look for guys who can throw the ball well.

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Speaker 1: Because I read what you wrote on Teddy Bridgewater and

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Speaker 1: it seemed to me like you believe he had a

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Speaker 1: lot of the characteristics that you look for an NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but you question whether he has really displayed the arms

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Speaker 1: strength and the overall arm ability that you would want

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Speaker 1: out of a top draft picks. So when you're evaluating

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Speaker 1: a guy like let's say Logan Thomas versus Bridgewater, how

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Speaker 1: how do you decide how much to wait things well?

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Speaker 1: And that's difficult, which is why the position is. People

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Speaker 1: make a lot of mistakes, and including myself, so you

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Speaker 1: just evaluated the best that you can and I evaluated

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Speaker 1: based on attributes and traits what I see. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think bridge Water is a great example. There'll be

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Speaker 1: two sides to Bridgewater, and maybe more sides, and that's

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Speaker 1: the way it is when you look at quarterbacks. But

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Speaker 1: on one side, you could say, boy, Bridgewater is really

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Speaker 1: good at a lot of the subtleties of the position,

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Speaker 1: and those are necessary in the national football You're gonna

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Speaker 1: Actually I spent a lot of time. Uh it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I spent three paragraphs talking about all the positives with Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: and nobody talks about that. And then I brought up

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Speaker 1: one thing that's concerning to NFL coaches, and that's all

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Speaker 1: people want to talk about. So there's one part to

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater where you could say he is really advanced in

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Speaker 1: many of the subtle nuances of playing quarterback. And then

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Speaker 1: there's the other part where you could easily say, as well,

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Speaker 1: where what is Bridgewater? Bridgewater is a shorter than ideal,

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Speaker 1: smaller than desirable, highly efficient quarterback with no outstanding physical traits.

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Speaker 1: And that description would be very true as well. So

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Speaker 1: where do you draft that guy? Could you compare him

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Speaker 1: to another quarterback that's come out just in not in

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Speaker 1: terms of what their NFL career has looked like, but

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Speaker 1: just as as a prospect. Does he remind you of

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Speaker 1: anyone in terms of how you evaluate him in the

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Speaker 1: last handful of years. Uh, He's probably more fluid. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I think many of the same things being said

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Speaker 1: about Bridgewater and his smarts were said about Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: when he came out of TCU. You know, because remember

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Speaker 1: with Dalton, you know, people acknowledge that he didn't have

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Speaker 1: a great arm, but they said, really smart kid, understands it,

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Speaker 1: gets it, knows how to play, can run your offense

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Speaker 1: really effectively. A lot of those same things I think

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Speaker 1: were said about Andy Dalton. Yeah. And I when I

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Speaker 1: read your right up of him, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: it was positive, I started thinking Drew Brees a little

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Speaker 1: bit even, uh, just in terms of how he was

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Speaker 1: viewed coming out of Purdue. Yeah. And and by the way,

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Speaker 1: Breeze has turned in obviously to a great NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And that's not to say Bridgewater can't turn into a

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Speaker 1: great NFL quarterback, and and he certainly could. It's just

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00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Breeze is a Bridgewater is more fluid. Breeze is a

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Speaker 1: much more explosive athlete Breeze is. He's not a runner Breeze,

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Speaker 1: but Breeze has such explosive lower body movement and he

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Speaker 1: he's a much better thrower than Bridgewater. Even though Breeze

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Speaker 1: does not have a gun the way you think of

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Speaker 1: a gun. He's just a better thrower. Now, I can't

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Speaker 1: specifically remember Breeze when he came out, and I think

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Speaker 1: that was what the two thousand in one draft, because

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Speaker 1: he was in the Michael Vick draft, So so I

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Speaker 1: can't specifically remember how he threw it then, and we

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Speaker 1: know that at times people do change. But the point

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Speaker 1: I made in the column of Bridgewater, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's purely a function of arms strains. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the way he throws it. Now, there could be people

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Speaker 1: who know more than I do who think that's not true,

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Speaker 1: and his arm can get stronger, and that may be

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Speaker 1: the case. Hey, Greg, When you look at the NFL's

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Speaker 1: best wide receivers, Calvin Johnson, holy O Jones, A J. Green,

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Speaker 1: Da Marius Thomas, Josh, Josh Gordon, we could go on

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Speaker 1: and on. These guys are all the biggest receivers in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. How should we factor this in to something

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Speaker 1: like Mike Evans versus Sammy Watkins. Well, Watkins is not small.

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Speaker 1: See that's the thing. I know what you're asking. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Watkins is very big in terms of his body type.

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Speaker 1: He's just not as Paul, but he's not short, and

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Speaker 1: he's a very physical player and and a velocity player.

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I don't think there's truly a comparison.

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Speaker 1: I know others disagree. Uh. I think I've made the

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Speaker 1: point that Watkins is the best wide receiver to come

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Speaker 1: out since the A. J. Green Julio Jones class of

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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. I've also talked to people in the

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Speaker 1: league who think he's the best receiver to come out

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Speaker 1: since Calvin Johnson. So I think Sammy Watkins is a

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Speaker 1: better receiver than Mike Evans. But size does factor in

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Speaker 1: to the receiver position. Now, because here's how it factors in.

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Speaker 1: The idea of separation, which we've always talked about, is

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Speaker 1: critical for receivers, declines in importance when you're talking about size,

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Speaker 1: because they can use their big body to shield and

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Speaker 1: to make contested catches, so you don't necessarily have to

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Speaker 1: win with quickness. You don't necessarily have to separate. You

544
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Speaker 1: can still make catches with your sheer size. I like

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Speaker 1: that you just threw Josh Gordon in there. That was

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Speaker 1: music to Cessla. That was Sessler like that. You just

547
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Speaker 1: had to get Gordon into the mick. Well, Josh Gordon

548
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Speaker 1: is a stud now, I mean, come on, he had

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Speaker 1: I mean he had sty six yards last year. By

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Speaker 1: the way, he missed the first two games and he

551
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Speaker 1: had a very leaky quarterback situation? Is he the best

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Speaker 1: supplemental draft pick player ever? About Bernie Kozar, He was

553
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Speaker 1: a supplemental draft pick as well. Kevin Williams the d

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Speaker 1: linement for Minnesota, Yes, he was, um, Greg, Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you about another playmaker, North Carolina tight end Eric Ebroun.

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Speaker 1: I got sucked into one of those yes be in

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Speaker 1: sports science segments a couple of days ago, where you

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Speaker 1: know those things, those are very interesting to watch, and

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Speaker 1: you know, he kind of came off as Paul Bunyan

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Speaker 1: in that thing he had. They even measured that he

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Speaker 1: had a greater catch radius than Gronk and you know

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Speaker 1: all these other absurd like uh drago like measurables. I

563
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Speaker 1: was curious, is this guy the real deal? Is Is

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Speaker 1: this a star tight end of the next level. How

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Speaker 1: is your catch radius? By the way, it's about seventeen inches.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's me Well, Ibron is extremely talented when

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Speaker 1: you look at just physical traits. Uh, there's a particular

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Speaker 1: play this year that if people are not that familiar

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Speaker 1: with him, they can pull up. He had a seventy

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Speaker 1: one yeard touchdown against the University of Miami where he

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Speaker 1: clearly just looks like a big wide receiver and he's

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Speaker 1: that kind of guy, and then he moves like that,

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Speaker 1: and you know, that's what everybody wants in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: They want a tight end that is essentially a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in the way he can be deployed because not

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Speaker 1: only does it create matchups for him him, but it

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Speaker 1: also dictates matchups for all your other receivers. So he

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Speaker 1: fits that profile. And the added element is that, as

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned with that touchdown, he can score from

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Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere on the field, which you can't really

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Speaker 1: say about most tight ends with very few exceptions. So

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Speaker 1: he certainly fits that that mold. We know that in

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Speaker 1: the league now that position is more coveted, so it'll

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Speaker 1: be a high draft choice. Do you think he's a

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Speaker 1: better prospect than let's say Iffort was last year coming

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Speaker 1: out well, the last two tight ends I believe taken

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Speaker 1: in the first round were Effort and Jimmy and Jermaine Gresham,

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Speaker 1: and I believe he's more athletic and and a better

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Speaker 1: receiving prospect than either one of those guys. Let's flip

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Speaker 1: over to defense for a second. You know, with Khalil

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Speaker 1: mactive whisper about him as a guy that potentially at

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Speaker 1: some point was maybe a Number one. You got Clowney

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Speaker 1: in there too, But looking at Khalil Max specifically, is

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Speaker 1: there a player in the league today that he would

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Speaker 1: the average fan out there you could say this kind

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Speaker 1: of this guy plays like someone in today's NFL. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at the teams. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: see him as a three or four outside linebacker and

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Speaker 1: a base defense and then when you go to your

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Speaker 1: sub package, you're Nickel or dime. I see him as

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Speaker 1: a hand on the ground defensive end pass rusher. So

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Speaker 1: who would be like that? Um? Young Lamar Woodley? Now,

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00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: he's a much better athlete than Lamar Woodley. Woodley was

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Speaker 1: much more of a speed to power pass rusher, whereas

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Speaker 1: mac can bend the edge and he can get low. Um.

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Speaker 1: And just for the record, guys, I think Max a

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Speaker 1: better prospect than jadeveon Clowney. Hm Um, I can't. You're

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Speaker 1: looking at the teams. No one immediately comes to my

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Speaker 1: mind right now, So I can't you know, I would

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Speaker 1: just trying to guess right now. Well, I mean he

611
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Speaker 1: has some elements in the way he rushes the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: with how low he gets of of a Robert Quinn

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Speaker 1: type guy like Quinn, the four three D end of course. Well,

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Speaker 1: you since you brought up Clowney, I'm just curious, what

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Speaker 1: what do you see when you watch Clowney on tape.

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Speaker 1: There's been so much talk about the guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he seems to be one of the most polarizing draft

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Speaker 1: prospects in years. Uh. And the reason guys are polarizing

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Speaker 1: is because there's pluses and minuses, guys, That's the reason.

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Speaker 1: It's not because people sit around and make stuff up.

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Speaker 1: It's because they see positive traits and negative traits when

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Speaker 1: they look at him as a prospect. That's what you know.

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Speaker 1: It's the same with Johnny Manziel that you know. That's

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Speaker 1: why guys are polarizing. So in the case of Clowney,

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Speaker 1: it's when you watch Clowney play, he's a phenomenal straight

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Speaker 1: line explosive athlete. That's he's a straight line explosion player.

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Speaker 1: He's not a natural bender, he's not a natural pass

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Speaker 1: rusher at this point in time. All these things, the

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Speaker 1: bending part may not be able to be taught. Tass

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Speaker 1: rush moves can be taught. Uh. So you know, when

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Speaker 1: you look at Clowney, if you're gonna draft Clowney with

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Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft, then you're basically saying

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a dominant pass rusher, because you

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Speaker 1: don't draft defensive ends to stop the run with the

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Speaker 1: first pick in the draft. Correct, So essentially you're saying

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a great pass rusher. At this

637
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Speaker 1: point in time, he's much more of an athlete than

638
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: a pass rusher and a football player, and you're counting

639
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: on that great athleticism to translate through coaching into becoming

640
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: a great, great football player and pass rusher. Hey, Greg,

641
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to uh get your head spinning too

642
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: much here by asking about the IT factor, but you

643
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: gotta have it to play in the National Football League.

644
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: But while we're talking about what I was doing your

645
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: show today, So I made sure I I when I

646
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: left the house this morning, I had it with me.

647
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: But while we're talking about Polar Rising and Johnny Manziel,

648
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: didn't we learn something through uh Honey Badger last year

649
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: about natural playmaking ability and how much we might underrate it?

650
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: Well defined natural player? Why are guys natural playmakers? I mean,

651
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew is an incredibly explosive athlete. Uh so you know,

652
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: is he again? I don't know how to answer that question. Guy.

653
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: Are you saying guys just make plays because they naturally

654
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: just make plays? I think wouldn't you? Wouldn't you agree

655
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: that some players have better instincts and that allows them

656
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: to make plays well. In many ways, instincts can be

657
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: seen on film. It's not it. I mean I can

658
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: watch I remember watching Luke Kikley when he came into

659
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Boston College and on almost every play his play recognition

660
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. That's what really instincts are is your ability

661
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: to recognize and react in a heartbeat. And some guys

662
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: can do that really well. Some guys can't. That's that's

663
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: a noticeable trait on film. Getting back to Mac and Clowney.

664
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: You're you're saying he's a little more clown He's a

665
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: little more of an athlete right now than maybe a

666
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: pure passarcher, which sounds a little bit like Mario Williams

667
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: coming out. And I think of the Texans with that

668
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: one pick, and I think of three or four outs linebackers,

669
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: and it's hard for you to think of a good

670
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: com because there's not many out there. I mean, think

671
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: of free agency this office. Jason Worlds is getting paid

672
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money based on six games because there

673
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: just aren't many of those guys out there. Knowing what

674
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: you know about Max skill set and Romeo Cornell's defense

675
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: and how it's been used in the past, is there

676
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: a case to be made Mac is a more natural

677
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: fit with that kind of defense in Houston? Well, I would,

678
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: I would make that case. But you know, and you

679
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: know how this goes. Guys. Someone listening to this is

680
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: now going to say, well, you hate Clowney. I didn't

681
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: say that, you know, why must the world right exactly? Um?

682
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: I think, well, you know, I just think Mac has it, guys,

683
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: don't you think now? I I think Max a better

684
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: prospect than Clowney, Which is not to say that I

685
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: don't think Clowney has a chance to be a great player.

686
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: But I think mac is a is a better prospect

687
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: as we speak today, and I he'd be a great

688
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: fit in a pure three four because, as I said,

689
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I think his best position in a base defense is

690
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: outside lineback here in a two point stance. What is

691
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: it that you see that you're putting him on a pedestal,

692
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: essentially that he is not just a great prospect, but

693
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: he's the type of guy that is so potentially dominant

694
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: that he could be a number one overall pick type

695
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: of guy even out of a small school. Well, let

696
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Would you have asked me

697
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: that same question about your daveon Clowney the way you

698
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: worded it, Greg, No, I wouldn't. I probably wouldn't have

699
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: to me. I don't care about the noise. I'm just

700
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: telling you what the film shows. I don't. I have

701
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: not it's not putting him on a pedestal. I think

702
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: when I watch Khalil Mack, I see a really strong, explosive,

703
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: multidimensional player who's a very good pass rusher, who showed

704
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: the ability to rush the quarterback in multiple ways, both

705
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: speed to power and bending the edge, which are two

706
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: important qualities for pass rushers. Uh. I think he was

707
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: also used off the ball, which when you look at

708
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: a linebacker you want to see how he plays on

709
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: the ball and off the ball, and I think he

710
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: acquitted himself very well in both areas. So I think

711
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: he's a complete prospect. And the keyword here, guys, for

712
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: every one of these players is prospect. I'm not getting

713
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: the bust ready for Mac for the Hall of Fame.

714
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: I just think he's the best defensive prospect in this draft,

715
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: right And with him, I think it's more about that

716
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: the average fan And for you know, just to be honest,

717
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: all of us, we we want to be educated about

718
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: what makes this guy because we just haven't heard as

719
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: much about him over the last yea and and you know,

720
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: obviously unless you play in the SEC, you obviously can't

721
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: be any good, as we know, so uh, you know,

722
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you get down to. So, like

723
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I said, I'm it's not whether I'm right or wrong.

724
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: It's merely my evaluation. But I'm not dealing with all

725
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: the noise that's out there. I'm just telling you what

726
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: the film shows. Alright, you've got two more weeks of this.

727
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Are you going to get through this? Oh? Yeah, I

728
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: love this stuff. I believe me. I'm trying. I'm looking

729
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: at guys. This morning, I looked at the listen. It's like, oh,

730
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: I didn't see that guy. You know, there's just there's

731
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: always another guy I really want to see. And you know, guys,

732
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: you know what I do. I'm not looking at highlights.

733
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm watching every play in the game. In games, so

734
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: when you watch every play, you see so many things

735
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't see when you just

736
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: put on highlights, whether the pilots are negative or positive. Well,

737
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: that was a lot of great information from you, Greg,

738
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: and a great landline connection to I just really enjoyed

739
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: the clarity. We don't get that enough. Well yeah, I

740
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: guess yeah, that's probably the most important thing. You know

741
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: that we had a good connection exactly on multiple levels.

742
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Great cosl, Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Well,

743
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting what he had to say

744
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: about Mac, because you have heard a few people take

745
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: Mac and creep them up there in their marks on

746
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: here and there mayock one guy. I thought it was

747
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: great to hear Cosell's take on that, and hey, Cosell

748
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: is in there, and then in the NFL Films building,

749
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I know they're talking a lot. That's why I wanted

750
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: to ask them about it. Really is from a point

751
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: of view that we don't know much about. We never

752
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: saw Cleo mac play at Buffalo, obvious. We kind of

753
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: want to understand why, why he's that guy. I remember

754
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: when de Marcus Ware came out and people thought, well,

755
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: he's from Troy, is a you know, is ten or

756
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: eleven where he was getting rumored? Is that too high

757
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: to take a guy from Troy. And here's a guy

758
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: from Buffalo that we're talking about, maybe goes ahead of

759
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: clown doesn't sound like Clowney is the number one pick

760
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: in uh. In Greg's eyes, although he doesn't want everyone

761
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: to just take one negative comedy makes and spin it elsewhere,

762
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's on the camp that this guy,

763
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, he has a lot to prove for people

764
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: put him in Canton, a lot to prove to you,

765
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: especially well especially me. Great to have Greg on he

766
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: he would be there in our Hall of Fame of

767
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: repeat guests. I think we should get Brandon Marshall back on.

768
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: That would be a for sure. You know, you learn

769
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: things from these people. It's always about learning West. You're

770
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: a man of books, many leather bound ones. Yes, all right,

771
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: let's move on. I got a tweet earlier this week,

772
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: gentlemen from a fan of ours. Her name is Laura.

773
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: She lives in Brooklyn, and um I wanted to get

774
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: her on the phone. She had a question for the

775
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: around the League team, the gold stander behind the glass.

776
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Can you make this connection happen? Happen? Thanks buddy, Happy Friday.

777
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to see this connection happen. Laura, are you there? Yes?

778
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: All right? This is It's always good to hear from

779
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: the female listeners, uh, you know, to get their perspective

780
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: on things. Laura checked in on Twitter, as I said,

781
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: and you know, I thought it was something that rather

782
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: than just answer on Twitter, I wanted to get her

783
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: on the line on the phone to ask that question herself.

784
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: So throw it to Laura, who has a question for

785
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: the gold Standard? Yes? Actually, um so, I tweeted Dan

786
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: because on Monday's episode, you guys were wondering if the

787
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: gold standard had any stands and I kind of worried

788
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: that he under appreciate it. Um. So, I was just

789
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: tweeting on to tell the gold Standard that I'm a

790
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: big fan of him in his work. And actually my

791
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: question was if, in the unlikely event that we're ever

792
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: in the same city, if he let me take him

793
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: on a high uctine spoon which stately? Are you are

794
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the sweetest that this is a day a faction Friday?

795
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: All right, Laura, thank you so much. Well, and this

796
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: isn't just you know, some crazy fan inner basement or something.

797
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: She is a high acting lawyer in Brooklyn, New York,

798
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: so she's already more successful than you. That's true. We

799
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: can do a lot with this. Thank you so much, Laura.

800
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: This is what is it about the gold Center. It's

801
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: it's just a general charms. We were just saying how

802
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: funny it was earlier, a handsome man, a soccer fan.

803
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: It's just basically the whole package. Yeah, except he's a packer.

804
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: But what is your fandom that we can work past

805
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: these things? It's like a cute ESPN gold Standards not

806
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: on packers only dot com? Yeah exactly. Um, well that's

807
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: good so that but so you're in you're in Brooklyn.

808
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Gold Standard is currently in California. That to me that

809
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: that's the biggest issue we're dealing with right now. Yeah,

810
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: I've got going on. Yeah, West is actually in a

811
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: similar situation. Um, so maybe there's a way, maybe we

812
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: could all meet up at huck a Poos make this

813
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: happen or a kickstarter. Well, if you're ever out in

814
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, I think we can find a way to

815
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: even expense this meal on the company or something something

816
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: like that. That's excellent, high octane sandwich Laura and Zach. Well,

817
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're gonna do. So Laura, we we

818
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: have your number on file. We we are in touch

819
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: with you, and we're gonna make this happen. I think Zach.

820
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: You should see Zach right now. See he's literally blushing.

821
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: He is behind the glass also a little shell. Yeah, no,

822
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: it's it's wonderful. Thank you, Laura. I really appreciate it.

823
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's grab a sandwich al right there. It is

824
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: a love connection made on the Around the League podcast.

825
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, Laura, No problem. Well I got that. I

826
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: like that, fellas. If this goes the distance, I do

827
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: want to see the four of us in here lined

828
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: up as your best co best men. Across the board,

829
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: linked arm in arm. We've never actually hung out outside

830
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: of work, but whatever, just we're there, and that was

831
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: I assure you. I had to get a little covert

832
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: with Zack before the show. He had no idea. That

833
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: was kind of yeah, he was. I told him that

834
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: as a phone call for the group may be directed

835
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: at West, and it turned out it was not directed

836
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: at West. I even asked to play the stooge. I

837
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: don't care. I even asked. I even asked that to

838
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: pull up some love music to play underneath what is?

839
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: You had the worst excuse for that too. What was that?

840
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember anymore. You said this was for a

841
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: certain quarterback we talked about today. Oh yeah, that's a

842
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: that's a bad lie. But you were so flummix that

843
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: I sent you the queue to play the love music

844
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: during that phone call. You didn't even see it because

845
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: you're just you're a man. You're your sun right now?

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Speaker 1: Can you play that love music? Yeah? All right? Zach

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Speaker 1: life of Jurisprudence together, it sounds like you're Barber Dan

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Speaker 1: and uh Camille. He's a good man. All right, before

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Speaker 1: we go, one last thing, another tweet, this one, I

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Speaker 1: will not put anyone on the phone. No one's gonna

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Speaker 1: be asked out. Pedro at the Real Pedge seven asked

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Speaker 1: a great question to you, Chris Westling, based on your

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Speaker 1: on our most recent podcast where you said that Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning excuse me, where you said r G three you

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Speaker 1: were absolutely certain he would be the comeback player of

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Speaker 1: the year. Pedro asks, would you be able to would

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Speaker 1: you be willing to put a softball pants bet that

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Speaker 1: he will be comeback player of there? Are you that certain?

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Speaker 1: And you can eat your softball pants if he If

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Speaker 1: r G three is not named comeback Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: I am so certain that I will give this serious

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Speaker 1: thought and have an answer on the next podcast. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. I have to say it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. It might not be the same chances of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders winning fewer than six games last year. RG

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Speaker 1: three is going to happen. The only reason I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: make this the only reason I wouldn't make this bet,

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Speaker 1: it's because another injury could happen. Right, And and to

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Speaker 1: your point, I think that r G three is such

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Speaker 1: a popular player. I think there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: rooting for him. Um so I do think if he

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Speaker 1: does have that bounce back here, barring you know, Marcus

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Speaker 1: is gonna lift r G three. So all he has

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Speaker 1: to do is play well, and I think the award

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Speaker 1: is his and your confident that's gonna happen. We don't

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Speaker 1: need pop your centing. He's gonna earn this straight up

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Speaker 1: saying he wants you to eat softball. I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to eat softball pants, but I want you to

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Speaker 1: have this on the line because the people love it.

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Speaker 1: People love the soft all pens. There will be other

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Speaker 1: things to put this off. Both pants on the line

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Speaker 1: for Oh, so you're saying you're not going to take

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Speaker 1: the bat now. I think the injury factor is too

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Speaker 1: much to overcome when I think about eating yards of

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Speaker 1: u nylon and cloth in zipper zipper a long time before. Well,

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Speaker 1: just if you wouldn't mind just kind of before making

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Speaker 1: your formal decision, maybe give it a night and Monday

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Speaker 1: you'll decide for certain, sleep on it, all right, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: patro That is that was a great suggestion. All right,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. Uh. We will be

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Speaker 1: back on Monday. It will be our last week, full

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Speaker 1: week of podcast before the NFL Draft, and so we'll

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Speaker 1: do plenty of talk about the draft coming up and

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Speaker 1: anything else that's happening in the NFL. But until then,

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Speaker 1: this is Dana Hansons signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler,

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Speaker 1: the Boss, and the gold Standard in love behind the

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