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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, July fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're Team Nicolandria Forever.

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Speaker 1: It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grand, joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael F. Floyo and Lakwan Jones. I see the stars

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Speaker 1: and the blank looks and the shrugs. I assume that

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Speaker 1: you guys did not get caught up in the drama

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Speaker 1: that was Love Island this summer Love Island. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: not at all.

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Speaker 2: I avoided that virus.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too deep into this because

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Speaker 1: I know people are here for fantasy talk, but like

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Speaker 1: I was, I was kind of like, you guys are

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Speaker 1: like whatever, and like Jesse watches it. She watches all

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Speaker 1: these reality shows and like I'm like, okay, whatever, but

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Speaker 1: she's like, no, you really do have to watch this,

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Speaker 1: and so like I made it a point to catch

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Speaker 1: up to where she was so we could watch like

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks of it together, and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was sort of like this is trash. It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: But then you kind of start to get invested in

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Speaker 1: these folks and you're like, you know, rooting to see,

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Speaker 1: like you know who connects with who and eventually because

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Speaker 1: it's like the end, like one couple wins one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, You're like, who's gonna get voted? Who's America

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Speaker 1: going to vote as their favorite couple one hundred thousand dollars?

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Speaker 1: You know? So like, yeah, I kind of got caught

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Speaker 1: up in it and like, honestly, like you have attractive

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Speaker 3: I'm not judging you because Nile watches like a ton

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Speaker 3: of reality. I've watched Double Shot at Love before, Like, uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm not any of this. I just I was invested

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Speaker 3: in the Spanish version with that guy Montoya in the

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Speaker 3: earlier I was watching it on Twitter. Oh no, that

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Speaker 3: one super viral though, Like bro, the last.

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Speaker 2: Show I watch was Flavor of Love two. You know

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Speaker 2: That's where I was at, and I stop.

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Speaker 1: I have seen bits and pieces of various love is

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Speaker 1: blinds because they have it in different countries. So I've

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Speaker 1: walked the room. I've seen some of that. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I will say that ninety day fiance got us through

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Speaker 1: the pandemic. It kept us together. I turn this together

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Speaker 1: as a family. Ninety fiance got us through the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I wanted. I can't look down on it,

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Speaker 1: I cannot judge, but hashtag team Nicolandria here on our side.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, enough about that, we got fantasy tough to

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Speaker 1: talk about a figure we do. An all breakout team

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Speaker 1: was inspired because Bucky Brooks is doing his all breakout teams.

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Speaker 1: He's doing offense and defense and a couple separate columns

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Speaker 1: which you can find on NFL dot com. So obviously

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Speaker 1: we are offensive minded here on this show. So I

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Speaker 1: figured we'd all pick our breakouts potentially for this season.

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Speaker 1: So we'll dive into that as well. But first, some

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Speaker 1: news headlines, a little bit of hype trainer smoke screen

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Speaker 1: as well, something that we just saw literally moments before

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Speaker 1: we started recording the show today. Lakwan, you were the

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Speaker 1: one who pointed this out to us. Seems as though

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Speaker 1: not all is well in the Beltway. Terry McLaurin right

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Speaker 1: now threatening to hold out because he has not heard

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Speaker 1: a contract extension. I've so things are a little bit

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Speaker 1: dicey there, I guess in a similar vein you got

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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings on the West Coast with the forty nine

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Speaker 1: to be traded. So you got a couple of receivers,

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Speaker 1: obviously in very different levels of elite nests. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to compare one to the other, but you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe threatening to not be around when their teams break camp.

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Speaker 1: In just a little bit, let's talk more about McLaurin,

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Speaker 1: because he's the one that obviously has a lot more impact. Floria,

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Speaker 1: you are a big Terry McLaurin guy. You are our

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Speaker 1: resident Jaden Daniels number one stand so here on July fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: What is your level of concern about McLaurin threatening to

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Speaker 1: hold out.

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Speaker 3: It's higher than I would like it to be. Right, Like,

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Speaker 3: I've drafted him on a bunch of teams. I have

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Speaker 3: him ranked as my wide receiver twelve in my early ranks,

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Speaker 3: So obviously high expectations and stuff. But there's still a

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Speaker 3: of the season, the more I will be concerned. But

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Speaker 3: the reason why I'm so high on Terry is because

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Speaker 3: he put up a career high in Fantasy points last

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Speaker 3: year on his second fewest targets of his careers, fewest

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Speaker 3: since his rookie years. So I think the Commanders, as

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Speaker 3: we saw in the second half of the year, will

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Speaker 3: he didn't last year. So I still think there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of room for optimism and upside here and everything.

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Speaker 3: And listen, Commanders, this is the second most important guy

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Speaker 3: on your offense behind Jayden Daniels. Take care of him.

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Speaker 3: I know you got debo. Now you're feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Just pay Terry and he's worth it. Make it all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I think eventually this is gonna

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Speaker 1: get done. You know. Yeah, we get a lot of these, right,

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Speaker 1: you get players making noises about wanting this or that,

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Speaker 1: and especially when you're talking about a team like the Commanders,

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Speaker 1: like they're building towards something. Yeah, I know they're in

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Speaker 1: the same division as the defending Super Bowl champions, but

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Speaker 1: they are building towards something big. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: they don't eventually get something done with Sterry McLaurin, hopefully

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Speaker 1: sooner than later, and this doesn't drag out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, LaQuan, we saw this in San Francisco

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Speaker 1: last year with Brandon. I you that didn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're giving him fuel to the fire mark you no,

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Speaker 3: like you know, I'm just trying to make him.

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Speaker 1: Look you win. Lakwan's happy, the show's better, So let's

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Speaker 1: do something a little bit, that's all. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: liked you were very excited. You were very excited about this.

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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings like, you know, pay me or trade me

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. I mean, look, he what he did

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Speaker 1: last year, last couple of years is certainly made him

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Speaker 1: worth I think getting a bump and salary. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they trade him, Like.

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Speaker 3: Did he literally get one last summer?

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Speaker 1: He might have got yeah, because he one runs the

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Speaker 2: And they look at him as the wide receiver one

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Speaker 2: right now, he's the only one that's healthy. So hold

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Speaker 2: your leverage, get paid the big bag man, Sure.

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Speaker 3: Marcus forty nine players threatening to request the trade, are you,

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Speaker 3: because it's like every single one of them.

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Speaker 1: It's like background noise now, right, It's just like it

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Speaker 1: point again it's July fifteenth, I'm not as concerned. Like

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Speaker 1: turn up the panic meter a little bit. But for now,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I trust, I trust John Lynch and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan will figure something out to keep Jwan semi

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Speaker 1: A couple of Chargers news and notes. Obviously we haven't

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Speaker 1: been with you guys for a few days because of

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Speaker 1: have been on the internet. You saw all the rumors

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Speaker 1: during a Fourth of July events. The expectations that he's

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Speaker 1: certainly for the start of the season, Lakwan, I know

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Speaker 1: you're you're pretty big on Omari and Hampton, your your

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Speaker 1: feelings about Najie Harris about I guess what this means

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Speaker 2: For him, I mean, it's good that he's okay and

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Speaker 2: his agent basically saying superficial, which means like it's on

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Speaker 2: if he does miss a little bit of time, this

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Speaker 2: ball go forward. That's about it. You know, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: the playbooks. I still think that Naji's going to be

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Speaker 2: you know, before Marion Hampton is even drafted, And like

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Speaker 2: Hampton's ADP, like the folks that are coming back outside

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Speaker 2: like Hampton's ADP is getting to a point where like

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Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable and I know he's gonna be this star talent,

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Speaker 2: other areas where Naji's his ADP is just gonna simply

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Speaker 2: point he's gonna be my RB four ORB five and

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Speaker 2: the guy that's gonna have a heavy goal line presence

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Speaker 2: because Naj he's not the greatest on the goal line,

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Speaker 2: but he's had plenty of opportunities in these last couple

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Speaker 2: of seasons where he's shown that he can get the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I think Naji's going

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Speaker 1: to be a problem for anybody who's banking on Omari

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you on Hampton. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: going a lot higher than I'm comfortable with at this point.

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Speaker 1: So on a personal level, I mean, you know, hope

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Speaker 1: everything's okay with Nag and then everything yeah, comes out

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Speaker 1: all right. Let that be lesson kids. Fireworks are dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Don't do it. It's never worth it.

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Speaker 1: Let that go. Leave that for the neighbor down the street,

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Speaker 1: because everybody has that one like sort of crazy neighbor

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Speaker 1: Like you don't have to yea, you don't have to

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Speaker 3: Someone on my block yesterday lit one off at like

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Speaker 3: eleven am on July fourteenth. I was like, what are

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Speaker 1: So there's a stillers like side not this they sort

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Speaker 1: of stopped in my neighborhood. But for people who aren't

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Speaker 1: maybe familiar, like I don't know if it's like this everywhere,

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Speaker 1: but in Los Angeles, the fourth of July starts on

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Speaker 1: like June fifteenth, like at least in my neighborhood, like

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Speaker 1: they'll start shooting off fireworks in mid June, and then

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Speaker 1: obviously Fourth of July is like the big huge day

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Speaker 1: and maybe they got a few leftover, like a couple

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Speaker 1: days later. Yea fourth of July goes on for a while.

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Speaker 2: It's like Thanksgiving, Like when is the leftovers not good

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Speaker 2: enough anymore? Three days after fourth of July. Let's stop

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Speaker 1: That's because that's just that's just a noise news. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, shout out. Look, this is this is always

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Speaker 3: Joe's in back. You know, like you got to air

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Speaker 2: I'm from the show me state. Is that even the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: A man just had a baby. You know the rules.

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Speaker 1: Like, come on, I don't even I don't even know

432
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Speaker 1: that he's being forgotten or that he's like.

433
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Speaker 2: He's already past that age. I mean, Eric Henry is

434
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Speaker 2: Christiano Ronaldo when it comes to conditioning and servicing your body.

435
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: He this man takes care of his body on a

436
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Speaker 2: Ronaldo doesn't have to worry about linebackers coming at him.

437
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Speaker 1: Wha. I mean that gets a red card version of football.

438
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Speaker 3: He's ran past the hill, but he's still running like

439
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: he hasn't realized yet that the hill is is so

440
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: he thinks he's still just running like that. That's Derrick

441
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: Henry right now.

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. Uh. We can debate this too

443
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Speaker 1: as we continue on through the summer. For sure, I'll

444
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Speaker 1: take a quick break, come back and we'll talk about

445
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Speaker 1: our all breakout team, start with quarterbacks and running backs.

446
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Speaker 1: That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

447
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Speaker 1: So Bucky Brooks is writing his all breakout team for

448
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Speaker 1: this season. He posted the offensive team just recently over

449
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Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com. You go check that one out.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting names. He had Michael Pennix at quarterback,

451
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy as his running back. Wide receivers were Keyon Coleman,

452
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Speaker 1: Romo Dunes, and the aforementioned Xavier Worthy. His tight end

453
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: was Brenton Strange the offensive lineman. Just for your own benefit,

454
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Speaker 1: JC Latham and Tennessee, Troy Fautanu and Pittsburgh, Jordan Morgan

455
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, Christian Mahogany in Detroit, and Zach Frasier

456
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers. So we decided we should put together

457
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Speaker 1: our own fantasy breakout team for the year. So we'll

458
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Speaker 1: start at quarterback and Lakwan, seems like you and Bucky

459
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Speaker 1: are aligned on something here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So before I even clicked on Bucky's article. I

461
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Speaker 2: just wanted to think of like my own breakouts and

462
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Speaker 2: like guys said, I have, you know, high hopes forign expectations,

463
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Speaker 2: and it was good to see just aligned right where

464
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: we're going to Atlanta. I mean, look when you look

465
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Speaker 2: at the Falcons offense and what Michael Penix brings to it,

466
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: he brings a vertical attack, and Zach Robinson has smoked

467
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: spoken high regard of Penix and wanting him to go

468
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: able to attack downfield. That small sample size that we

469
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: saw those last three games when he's just started with

470
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Speaker 2: Drake London was amazing. Like we saw Drake London George

471
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: for reception go from eleven yards to sixteen in a

472
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Speaker 2: matter of three games with Penix. And like you have

473
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Speaker 2: Zach Robinson in recent reports saying he wants to explore

474
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Speaker 2: with Michael Penix in his rushing upside, like he just

475
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Speaker 2: wants to see what we can get out of him.

476
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Speaker 2: I think what Pennick showed last year was just amazing

477
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Speaker 2: in that three game sample, but like growing that momentum,

478
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Speaker 2: Like you hear him sit talking about Drake London, like

479
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Speaker 2: he was asked if he feels like he's underappreciated. Michael

480
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: Penicks responded, like, they won't be at there this season.

481
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Speaker 2: So like, I like the confidence, I like the upside,

482
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Speaker 2: and I like Zach Robinson on the sticks because he understands, like, hey,

483
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him air it out because that's what

484
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Speaker 2: he was doing in college. He was going out there

485
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: just airing the ball out, and those three games span

486
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: he also led all quarterbacks in air yards. So you're

487
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Speaker 2: telling me you're gonna get Drake London, Darnell Mooney, and

488
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: even Raymond McLeod makes a little appearance in this shout

489
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Speaker 2: out because again, you have all the pieces in house

490
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: to make this vertical attack come executed at a high level.

491
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Speaker 2: So I'm all in on Michael Pennis as the quarterback

492
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Speaker 2: twenty one. Like this is where two was going, This

493
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Speaker 2: where Matthew Stafford is going. You could still get Michael

494
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Speaker 2: Penix with that low end QB one upside just based

495
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: on this offense.

496
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Speaker 1: So you named Drake London, Uh, you named Darnell Mooney,

497
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Speaker 1: you named ray Ray McCloud. I feel like there's a

498
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Speaker 1: past catcher in that Atlanta.

499
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Speaker 2: Oh, Cardera Hodges, That's who it is there, It is there.

500
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Speaker 1: No, that's nothing. It is a K. It's something with

501
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Speaker 1: a K that you're missing. I don't know, it'll come

502
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Speaker 1: to me later. Yeah, maybe Atlanta past catcher name starts

503
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Speaker 1: with a K. I don't know. We'll figure it out. Allegedly. Yes, yeah, Florio,

504
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: you're I saw the two names you put on here

505
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: and it was very much on brand for you. So

506
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Speaker 1: I'll say this for your your all breakout quarterback. This

507
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: feels like if it's not this year, then then maybe never.

508
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Yeah?

509
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Speaker 3: Yes, agree, it's Justin Fields. And I know some people

510
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: might be like, well, Justin Fields has already shown us

511
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Speaker 3: he could be really good. But I think that a

512
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Speaker 3: career year is coming for Justin Fields because one the

513
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: offensive style that he that he is best suited in

514
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: is the one that he is now going to be

515
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: playing and in my opinion, a lot of outside runs.

516
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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get Justin Fields. I'm trying to

517
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Speaker 3: think of a name for it and stuff like prepare

518
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Speaker 3: for takeoff or something like that, like we're gonna get

519
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: a touch push jexvusion with Justin Fields, and then I

520
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: think we're gonna get what the Lions do, like the

521
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: Lions I think people think big plays, explosive plays and

522
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: stuff like that. They don't throw the ball deep very much,

523
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Speaker 3: or at least they haven't under Ben Johnson and Tanner

524
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Speaker 3: Engstring in the past. Like they they set up a

525
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: lot of short, quick screens and just short, quick, high

526
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Speaker 3: efficiency passes which then opens up downfield and you could

527
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Speaker 3: catch people off guard downfield. And that's what I expect

528
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Speaker 3: for Justin Fields. That's what the Steelers had him do

529
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Speaker 3: last year, and he had put up. It was in

530
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Speaker 3: six games, but metrically speaking, it was a career year

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Speaker 3: for him as a passer. So I think Justin Fields,

532
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Speaker 3: who if you just take what he did in his

533
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Speaker 3: six games as a starter last year and you turned

534
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Speaker 3: it into seventeen games, would have been the QB six

535
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Speaker 3: and fantasy last year. I think he can finish even

536
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Speaker 3: higher than that and potentially be a top four, top

537
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: three fantasy quarterback this year. And then I gave honorable

538
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: mention to Drake May. I love Drake May as a

539
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Speaker 3: NFL player. I think he's got all the playmaking tools

540
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Speaker 3: in him. My only concern and the reason why I

541
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Speaker 3: would prefer to take him as a two than a one,

542
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: is I have some concerns on how much Mike Rabral

543
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Speaker 3: and the Patriots are gonna want to air the bam

544
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Speaker 3: all out. But I think all the tools are there

545
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: for Drake Made to be a big breakout candidate this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just I'm still hoping. I mean, for

547
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: those of us who want Drake May to be a

548
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: thing that the Patriots have finally gotten it right at

549
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver because they have not gotten it right for

550
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: a long time now.

551
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: So one is on a boat right now with Cardi b.

552
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Apparently, you know there are worse ways to be spending

553
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: your life. I said, I know that much. For sure,

554
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: my breakout quarterback is gonna be Caleb Williams this year.

555
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: I know that it wasn't necessarily eye popping in terms

556
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: of statistics last year, as he was sort of working

557
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: his way back in. It was a Bears offense that

558
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: struggled to score points for a long time for long

559
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: stretches last season. But one of the things that he

560
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: did very well which will serve him going forward, is

561
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Speaker 1: he protected the football, did not have a lot of needless,

562
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: careless turnovers, which is not only something you could say

563
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Speaker 1: for him at college where you know, watching him especially

564
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: at USC those last couple of years where he would

565
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: play a lot of hero ball and maybe force the

566
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: ball downfield. That was something that the Bears were able

567
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: to kind of work out of him a little bit.

568
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: And look, it definitely helps that he had better wide

569
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: receivers in the pros than he did in college. I

570
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: mean being able to work with Dj Moore, with Keenan Allen,

571
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: you know him and Romo Dunze trying to form a

572
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: connection as rookies last year, he definitely had better pass catchers.

573
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Now he gets Ben Johnson coming there and calling up

574
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: the plays and dialing up the offense for him. You know,

575
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: they go out, they add Luther Burden, they add Colston Lovelin,

576
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: so they are committed to building around him. That's of

577
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: course obviously with more and Odonza coming back this year.

578
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: This time last year, I remember everybody being super hyped

579
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: on Caleb and me trying to pump the brakes and saying, look,

580
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: you're one will be okay. Year two is what I

581
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: expect things to take off. And then I sort of

582
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: got peer pressured into just like going big on Caleb,

583
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: and like I regretted it a few weeks in. I'm

584
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Speaker 1: like I should have just stuck to what I believed

585
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: in the first place, but I kind of let I

586
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: let the hype kind of take me along. But I

587
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: am sticking to the fact that in year two, I

588
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: think is when we see Caleb really step up. I

589
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: think year two is when the Chicago Bears finally, in

590
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: the first time in the long history of their historic franchise,

591
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: get a four thousand yard passer. I think I think

592
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: it finally happens. I think this year, I think Caleb

593
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: gets over four thousand yards. Last year he had twenty touchdowns.

594
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: I think you can get him, you know, closer to thirty,

595
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: maybe even above thirty this year. So I think I

596
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: think we're going to start to see the Caleb Williams

597
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: that everybody was hoping for when the Bears drafted him

598
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: number one overall in twenty twenty four. So for that reason,

599
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: he is my breakout quarterback this year over running backs.

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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: This one was sort of a wild one for me

601
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: because I was really struggling to kind of find a name.

602
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'll get to mind in just a

603
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: little bit. But I guess speaking of the Chicago Bears, lakwan,

604
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: you've got your your breakout running back right now.

605
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to put it out there in

606
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: the fantasy streets. This is the first year that I'm

607
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: actually campaigning for DeAndre Swift, like I am on board

608
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: this year, and it's only because Ben Johnson's on the

609
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: sticks and the opportunities that you know are on the

610
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: table for him now. Honestly, them not going in the

611
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: draft getting the top prospect obviously just indicates like, all right,

612
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: Swift is the guy, like Kam Nung guy. He's a

613
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: guy right now. He's going to be competing with Roshan

614
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: Johnson if anything, but Swift is the guy. And the

615
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: last time we've seen a fantasy relevant season from DeAndre

616
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Swift was under Ben Johnson's system, the seventy targets that

617
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 2: I keep pounding the table for and like folks are

618
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: thinking they're not gonna have that same type of volume

619
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Speaker 2: on the table for him, But there is opportunity for

620
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: him because he's shown that his best quality last season

621
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Speaker 2: was as a pass catcher. I mean, he was top

622
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Speaker 2: five and explosive catcher, you know a stat that I

623
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: got from FTN, and he was able to be one

624
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: of the top six running backs out there running those routes,

625
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: so he's still showing the ability to be out there

626
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: as a pass catcher. Now a lot of that volume.

627
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna get spread out because Caleb last

628
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: year three wide receivers had one hundred targets, like not

629
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: enough people were talking about that. He also was top

630
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: five and second read percentagey, so there's obviously options and

631
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: the ability of him extending the plays and getting all

632
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: these mouths fed. And I think that, you know, Swift

633
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: is a huge factor in this run game, being the

634
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs or the sonic of this backfield. So I

635
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: definitely think, you know, with last year's scheme, it was terrible,

636
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: the offensive line was terrible, and before Ben Johnson let

637
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: his name dry ink on that paper, he addressed the trenches.

638
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: So I think there's just a huge opportunity here with

639
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: Swift to break out this year to get back to

640
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: that top fifteen season that he had in twenty twenty

641
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: two with Ben Johnson. So it's clear as day he's

642
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: coming on my roster as an RB three. Mister RB

643
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: three has spoken.

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Speaker 1: Mister RB three has spoken. Yeah, Gavin points out by

645
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: the way that we did have Chase Edmonds on the pod,

646
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: and he was big on DeAndre Swift, saying he'll be

647
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: a top ten turn back this year. Look just missed

648
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: out on one thousand yards last season. I'm with you

649
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: though on these seventy targets. You know, he got those

650
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: in Detroit with a pass catching group that wasn't particularly great.

651
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: It was aman Ros Saint Brown and like their number

652
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: two wide receiver was like, you know, Khalif Raymond. So

653
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: that sort of helped in that regard. But but I

654
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: do think there are a lot of targets potentially coming.

655
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: One more thing I forgot to mention, by the way,

656
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: about Kayleb Williams nearly five hundred rushing yards last year.

657
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is under the.

658
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Deal, under the radar because he's not I a would

659
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: say he's he runs sort of in the way that

660
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes runs in the sense of like he's not

661
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: just gonna take off. You know, it's not gonna be

662
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson Jaden Daniel side sort of thing where

663
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: he runs. He will run when he needs to, and

664
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: he's mobile enough and athletic enough to pick up big yards.

665
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: He pickup. He picks up those back breaking yards, right.

666
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: It's it's third and eight and you've got everybody covered

667
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: and then Caleb runs for ten. You know, like that's

668
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: the sort of thing.

669
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: And that we didn't see him do it last year.

670
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: But and you could speak on this better than me,

671
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: but when I watched him in college, like he is

672
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: like a really good runner near the goal line, and

673
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: like exactly how you were saying, like he picks his

674
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: spots really well, yeah, and we didn't. Really he didn't

675
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: have a rushing touchdown last year, so I think he

676
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: could do that.

677
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think that's that's one more

678
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: reason to.

679
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: Players are grown, then they hit harder. That's probably why.

680
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, look, Caleb understands that that

681
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: he's going to make his living throwing the football, not

682
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: necessarily running it, so like, you know, just be judicious

683
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: about it. I think it's all I think down Yeah,

684
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: well probably maybe, but if maybe but if the Russian

685
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns go up, which there's nowhere else to go butt up, right, Like,

686
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: it sort of evens out. Uh, Florida, you have the

687
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: only rookie in our running back section here for for breaking.

688
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: I will pig I love DeAndre Swift. I have him

689
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: ranked fifteenth in my rankings right now at running back,

690
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: and just a couple spots behind him is Trevon Henderson,

691
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: who you talk about. You don't love the adp fro

692
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: Marion Hampton. Uh at cost, I'm taking Henderson all day,

693
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: but I continue to flip flop the like I have

694
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: them back to back in my rankings and I flip

695
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 3: fub over which one I'd rather have, and you're getting

696
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: a rounder. So discount on Henderson. But Henderson was actually

697
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: my RB two when I watched all of these running

698
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: backs in the pre drive look, Genty was everyone's number one,

699
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: but Henderson for me was number two because I think Hampton,

700
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: you can make the argument, is the better like real life,

701
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: like a nineteen eighties NFL coach would love Omarion Hampton.

702
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: But for what we need in fantasy, I think Travon

703
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: Henderson is the guy you really want because what do

704
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: we want. We want big plays, and I think he

705
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: is the most. I would even say, including Genty, I

706
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: think he is the most explosive runner in this class,

707
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: speed for days. He's also a phenomenal pass protector, which

708
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: is big because that's usually what keeps rookies off the field.

709
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: On two minute drills and obvious passing down situations and

710
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and he's a really good he's got

711
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: good hands, and he's really good after the catch. So

712
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 3: to me, the what I always want in my running

713
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: backs are big plays and pass catching and I think

714
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: he is going to thrive in that role. And I

715
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: know I've said it a lot on the show in

716
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: the past, like of all the rookies, he is the

717
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: one that is going there where the new coaching staff

718
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: picked him and didn't sign or draft the the RB

719
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: two like that is from the old regime, Ramandre Stevenson.

720
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: So I think Henderson is going to be the Patriots

721
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: RB one. I think he will have some really big games.

722
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: I think week to week might be a little inconsistent,

723
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: but the floor will be like probably something around like

724
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: ten fantasy points. But he's gonna have a huge number

725
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: of huge games because he's gonna break out like a

726
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: six yard touchdown run or have like a six catch

727
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: game or something like that. So I think he could

728
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: backdoor his way to an RB one finish probably more

729
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: of a high end RB two, but you don't got

730
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: to pay that price for him. So every year, when

731
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: you look back at ad at the scoring, like which

732
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: who stands out? It's usually rookies. So in the middle rounds,

733
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm willing to uh bet on some rookies.

734
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: There a couple things about Travon Henderson. One, he is

735
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: in that group of second round picks that has not

736
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: yet signed, so there are questions about whether it's a

737
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: union now. He's a union guy, you know, stands all

738
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: with your brothers. Uh. The other part is you're gonna

739
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Patriots games this year, Florio, Yeah,

740
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: between Henderson Drake may like watching.

741
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: The Jets with Justin feel like it's weird. I'm bounding

742
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: the table for a bunch of division rivals.

743
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Right except for me, guess sort of works out right

744
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: because you're gonna watch the Bills anyway, and they're gonna

745
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: play the Patriots twice. You're gonna play the Jets twice. Yeah, Like,

746
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: are there any Dolphins you want to cape up for?

747
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: You know, Darren Waller, maybe you want to Devon as

748
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: my RB four I love all right, Okay, that's fair,

749
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: that's fair. So when it came to me picking a

750
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: breakout running back, this is struggled. I really struggled with it.

751
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: I really really did because my first instinct was just

752
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: to go Ashton Johnty, and I'm like, that feels too chalky, right,

753
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Like that just feels too easy because everybody loves Ashton

754
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: John c and that is so I yeah, it is spicy,

755
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go. I think Trey Benson takes a

756
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: big step forward this year, and maybe he's not an

757
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: RB one, but I also don't think he's gonna be

758
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: an afterthought in Arizona. We talked about it a few

759
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: weeks ago on this show. He made the comment that

760
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: he thinks Arizona has two RB ones. I think we

761
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: did under Hype Trainer smoke screen and we're all sort

762
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, it's got a smoke screeny. But I'm like,

763
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we don't count this out right. And

764
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: I say this to somebody who loves James Connor and

765
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: thinks James Connor is you know, he's one of those

766
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: running backs that we sort of take for granted, right

767
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: because when he's healthy, he's productive. His last two years

768
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: have been arguably the best two years of his career.

769
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: But you talk about that age, cliff, right, I mean,

770
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: he just turned thirty a couple of months ago. This

771
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: is a guy who has an extensive injury history. I mean,

772
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: this is the guy who started his career was able

773
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: to battle and overcome cancer to get back on the field,

774
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: which is absolutely amazing. But you know, all these things

775
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: do sort of add up over the years. I think

776
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Trey Benton is a guy that you look at a

777
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: lot of the advanced stuff. He was very good in

778
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: yards after contact, he was very good when it came

779
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: to explosive runs, you know, all the little things that

780
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: you sort of like metrics wise from a running back.

781
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Trey Benson does that. And so you know, I still

782
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: think James Connor is the lead running back in Arizona,

783
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: but I think you're gonna see the gap closed in

784
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: terms of usage between these two teams, between two players

785
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: rather and again I'm not gonna sit here and try

786
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: to sell you some fantasy where Trey Bnson overtakes James

787
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Connor and by the end of the year you're like, oh,

788
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: he's R twelve, Like that's not gonna happen. But I

789
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: do think if you're going to spend a late round

790
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: draft pick on him, I think he's a guy who

791
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: can outperform his ADP and maybe end up sort of

792
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: in the low end RB two range, the less spicy.

793
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 3: I hope it has going crazy right now.

794
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Oh I know. I'm glad do we know this?

795
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: Because I am huge on Trady Benson. I hope this

796
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: happens for him though.

797
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's something there. But I

798
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: really did struggle to find, like who's a good breakout

799
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of spots where you know,

800
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of room for for for you know,

801
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: young guys to break in. I mean you mentioned Travon Henderson.

802
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: He's one of those few young guys and I think

803
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: has a real path towards something big. But a lot

804
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: of the guys drafted this year ended up in situations

805
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: where they're sharing with veterans or they're just in bad offenses.

806
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard because a lot of the

807
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: good running games are guys who were established and just

808
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: barring into.

809
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: I was very close with writing down Jordan Mason, but

810
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: I think I think we already know how I feel.

811
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: You already know, Like I actually thought you're gonna.

812
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: Put on the Harvey to He is a big HiPE

813
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: guy this summer.

814
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: He's a big.

815
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: Look Jordan Mason Jordan James. Man, those are the two names.

816
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Why don't we already Why don't people like Aaron Jones?

817
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: Like for years we wanted to free Aaron Jones, right

818
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: he was like now with with the Jamal Williams were

819
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: like free Aaron Jones. And now Aaron Jones has a

820
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: chance to be free, and everybody's like Jordan Mason. It's like,

821
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand.

822
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: Us agism that I've seen people be like, well, he's

823
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: only going to be the passing down back now, and

824
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't see a world where Aaron Jones

825
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: is healthy and only playing passing.

826
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Like what why you gotta be patient?

827
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: He had eleven hundred yards last year on the ground,

828
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: Like why would he just suddenly become the passing.

829
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Obviously, say Dynasty, you jump on Jordan Mason right now,

830
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: like you literally go get him.

831
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: But even probably the top handcuff too, I would argue.

832
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: Or one of one of I think I actually have

833
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: a handcuff ranking. Oh man, he's definitely up.

834
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: There now, I guess. I mean, I think he's a

835
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: good player, but even in Dynasty, like I don't know

836
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: that I got I plan my future roster around Georgian.

837
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: So I got a handcuff ranking Jordan Mason, Zach Charbonnet,

838
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: Raylan Allen's my top three, and then Dylan Samson number four.

839
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Really, so Trey Benson's not there.

840
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: Trey Benson's actually further down. He's behind JK. Dobbins.

841
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: Wow, and Ray Davis and Ray Davis.

842
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Trey Benson has to show us. He didn't

843
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: show us anything last year.

844
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: Wow, he's from the show me state.

845
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, New Jersey famously didn't mean it like that. Yes,

846
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: all right, reason that that's the board to do. We

847
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: got wide receivers and tight ends. Take a break. We'll

848
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: take a break and then come back with more breakouts

849
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Because we continue

850
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: our fantasy breakouts for twenty twenty five looking at wide receiver.

851
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: It feels like there's a lot of places we could

852
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: go at wide receiver for breakouts. And Lakwan, you're starting

853
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: with a friend of the show. Yeah, yeah, wide receiver breakout.

854
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm starting with they really get and I

855
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: think when we look at this offense with the Panthers,

856
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: target out is wide open for him, and I think

857
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: last season we saw him be a huge red zone

858
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: target for Bryce Young, and I think more so if

859
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: he works on his hands. You know, he had a

860
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: lot of drop passes. But there's nothing in stone that

861
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: Teed McMillan's the wide receiver one here, because like there

862
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: could be a debate that Adam Thielen still shows up

863
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: and show out like he did last season's finishing as

864
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: a top fifteen wide receiver coming from injury. So there's

865
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: obviously some chemistry built there with Adam Thielen. But I

866
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: think that second target option is available for him. And

867
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: I'm not saying xaberly Get is going to break out

868
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: to be this wide receiver one. I'm looking at him

869
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: more so as a low and wide receiver two as

870
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: a flex so he can live outside the top twenty

871
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: five wide receivers. This is a great breakout for him

872
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: because if he's in the top thirty, that means Teed

873
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: McMillan or Adam Thielen they're in that range as well

874
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: or even above. And then Bryce Young is having an

875
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: offense that's flourishing under him where he's able to distribute

876
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 2: the ball. Because we saw David Moore have some couple

877
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: of weeks last year. We saw Adam Thielen old Man,

878
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: thelan going out there one hand, Odell Beckingham. We saw

879
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Koker make some nice plays as well, and I

880
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: think you know more so Xavier look Get with his

881
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: big body frame, he's able to box you out the

882
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: quick slants like he's like a huge gadget player. And

883
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: I think there's untapped potential here with Bryce shown being

884
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: able to be a little bit mobile in that pocket,

885
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: extending the plays, getting the ball to a big target

886
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: like Xavier log At, this is opportunity for him to

887
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: step up big this year. And like Friend of the Show,

888
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: if everybody tapped into the pod, he's actually taking accountability

889
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: and working on himself to improve this next season and

890
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: understanding the offense a little bit better like the rookie

891
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: years under him. Second year Xavier l Get, I'm ready,

892
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: let's jump on the raccoon train man. That's what That's

893
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna.

894
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Call it the right right And sometimes somehow in all

895
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: this he found time to be in a Glorilla video.

896
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's pretty cool.

897
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: Actually shout out to to xavierly Get for that as well. Floria,

898
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: you decided to go the group route here, and I don't.

899
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: I guess it kind of goes back to what we

900
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: were talking about in the hype Trainer smoke screen earlier

901
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: the show.

902
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lakwan's not gonna like this, But I'm in on

903
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: the Chiefs receivers. I have Rashid Rice as my wide

904
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: receiver thirteen. I think worthyse not too far behind that.

905
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: And then I'm definitely the high guy on mark He's Brown,

906
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 3: his ADP's in the sixties. I have him like forty something.

907
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: I'm a big believer that last year the Chiefs had

908
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: this plan of like bringing speed back into the offense

909
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: because remember two years ago, I know they won the

910
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, but like their offense was being led by

911
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: like Juju and like a broken down Travis Kelcey and

912
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: it was rough. So they tried to get younger and

913
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: faster last year, and Marquis Brown got hurt before we

914
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: even got to see what they could be with him,

915
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: and then a mistake that I'm not saying we're doing it,

916
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: but I think that, like the public perception on players

917
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: does is like when a player comes back hurt and

918
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: isn't the same, we then hold it against them the

919
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: next year. But like Markus Brown didn't have a training camp.

920
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: He didn't like he was literally getting his reps in

921
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: on the field in live time of coming back from

922
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: this injury. Pacheco was taken from Rashid Rice was looking

923
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: like an absolute top five elite wide receiver, and then

924
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: he was taken from us An. Xavier Worthy showed strides

925
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: throughout the year in my opinions, so I think that

926
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: this passing a game will attempt to throw more downfield,

927
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: will attempt to look like the Chiefs of old. I

928
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: don't think we're gonna ever see like the twenty eighteen

929
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: version of Mahomes again where he like went absolutely nuclear

930
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: for sixteen games. But that's still in there, right, Like,

931
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: that's in the range of outcomes. And just because of

932
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: who Mahomes is and if like these guys are healthy

933
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: and they could win downfield, I think it'll lead to

934
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: a lot of big games. Plus last year was the

935
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: worst offensive line Mahomes has ever had as well, and

936
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna improve or not. But

937
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: they did use their first round pick, they signed someone,

938
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: they tried to get younger there as well. So last

939
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: year was I think the absolute worst case scenario for

940
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, and yeah, it wasn't great for fantasy, but

941
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: like I, we're getting a discount on them because of that,

942
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: and to me, the upside is still all there.

943
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm curious because I do think I think there's reason

944
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: to believe this offense is going to be more explosive

945
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: than it has been the last couple of years. I

946
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: just don't think Andy Reid wants it to be like that.

947
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Patrick Mahomes is satisfied with that. I

948
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see them bounce back. I also, as

949
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: you were talking, I flashed back to twenty fourteen. Remember

950
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen when the Chiefs did not have a touchdown

951
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: catch by a wide receiver in the entire season?

952
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: Was that like Dwayne Bow years?

953
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: That was Dwayne Bow? Who else was there? Albert Wilson,

954
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: the Bird Alert as we call him, Albert Wilson, Donnie Avery,

955
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: Jason Avant, Junior, him, aj Jenkins. I mean, it was

956
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: like a it's very much a who's that of It

957
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: was not a who's who? Was a who's.

958
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: That was that post Jamal Charles.

959
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles was still there. Okay, in fact, that would

960
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: have been now She's still he was with the Chiefs

961
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: for a few more years after that. I was Travis

962
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Kelcey's second year year, so he had not become like

963
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: a stud fantasy tight end at that point.

964
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: He learned how to read.

965
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: He actually led the team in receptions that year, now

966
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at it, he led the team in

967
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: receptions and receiving yards. So this might have been the

968
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: beginning of Travis Kelcey as a thing in fantasy football

969
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. But yeah, they did not have a

970
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: wide receiver catch a touchdown great out all that year.

971
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's a weird statistical anomaly, right, Like you

972
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: just think on like broken coverage, the fender falls down something,

973
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: you would have just thought somebody catches the touchdown. But nopeh

974
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: did not happen. My breakout for this year, and maybe

975
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: we saw it a little bit last year, but I'm

976
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm in on it this year is Jamison Williams in Detroit.

977
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's had such a weird start to his career,

978
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: right he had injury, you know, coming off an injury

979
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: out of college. Then he had this suspension you know

980
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: for a year and for part of the year and

981
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: missed time. He just really could never consistently get any

982
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: momentum within the offense. Last year, he was healthy for

983
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: most of the season, played fifteen games during the regular season,

984
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: had over a thousand yards, had seven touchdowns, proved that

985
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: he could be the big play guy that they wanted

986
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: him to be. I think this is the year he

987
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: takes a big step forward in this offense. And so

988
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we're we're drafting Aman rob probably first

989
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: round or early second round. We're drafting Sam Laporta. I'm

990
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: starting to see Jamison's ADP go up. I personally don't

991
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: like it. I want you to stop. But I think

992
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: people are starting to see the same thing that this

993
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: can still be even without Ben Johnson running the show.

994
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: Can still be an explosive offense, and Williams is gonna

995
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: be a big part of that. I mean, he's a

996
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: home run guy, can take it to the house anytime

997
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: he gets his hands on the ball. We know that

998
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Jared Goff can spread the football around, regardless of what

999
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Lakwan may think of him. He's he can deliver the

1000
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: ball to the guys he needs to get it to.

1001
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, honestly if Williams is the number

1002
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: two target. You know, if it's I'm on rods the

1003
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: number one target for sure, then you know it's some

1004
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: battle between Jamison Williams and Sam Laporter for the number

1005
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: two target. I just think big, big things are coming.

1006
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: If we see Williams somewhere in the neighborhood of twelve

1007
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards, I would not be surprised this year

1008
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: at all. So needs the catch rate up though, I mean,

1009
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: fifty eight catches on ninety one targets not particularly great.

1010
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: So if he can, if he can bump up that

1011
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: catch rate, that'll go a long way helping him out

1012
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: finally break out side end, which honestly, you could just

1013
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: pretty much say a tight end that's not one of

1014
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: the top five guys, and it's hard to argue against it. Lakwan,

1015
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: will you be dying your hair blonde at this particular

1016
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: tight end face in the top five?

1017
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, But I'll be very surprised if that happens, though.

1018
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: But Chicka Konquo man, I think there's open targets, you know,

1019
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: on this Tennessee offense, because honestly, the ghost of Tyler

1020
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: Lockett might be present, you know, I don't know if

1021
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: he's going to be able to, you know, step up

1022
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: and be the Tyle Lockett of old, but he's definitely,

1023
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, there's he's definitely unbearable in this take. But

1024
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: I think Chicka Conco he's proven to us these last

1025
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: two seasons he can earn targets seventy targets in back

1026
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: to back seasons with Ryan Tannehill, Will Levis, Will Levis again,

1027
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph will leve Us again, terrible terrible, terrible, terrible,

1028
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: terrible ups and downs, but he's proven to us to have,

1029
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, the ability to step up, very John New likeness,

1030
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, in his athleticism. So it's like, I definitely

1031
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: think there's upside here, especially with cam Ward where we've

1032
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: seen him elevate a tight end last year with Elijah Arroyo.

1033
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: So I definitely think, you know, with the Tennessee Titans

1034
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: finished on the eleventh in tight end target share, there's

1035
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: already a system here that there's obviously some room for

1036
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: the tight ends to actually get involved in this offense.

1037
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: So again, I do like elk au Manner, I do

1038
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: like Tyler Lockett, you know, exaber Ristrabo or with cam

1039
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: Ward previously there, but Chicka Conco has proven time and

1040
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: time again he could step up when given opportunity.

1041
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: He's been one of those guys the last year or

1042
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: two where it's like I'm willing to like throw a

1043
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: little bit of fab on him somewhere mid through the season,

1044
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: like if the matchup's right, and I feel like he

1045
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: can perform, so maybe, yeah, maybe this is the year

1046
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: he finally takes that big step forward. I mean, in

1047
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: our normal thinking, it does take tit ends a few

1048
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: years to develop. This is year four. This feels like

1049
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: this could be the year that maybe.

1050
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: The steady quarterback maybe fingers crossed top ten. I'll say

1051
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: top ten.

1052
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: I know this has been like Kyle Brandt's points aul summer,

1053
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: but like literally there's zero hype around cam Ward right now,

1054
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: and I.

1055
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: Don't get yeah. I mean, I think some of it

1056
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: is just that cam Ward himself, I think is a

1057
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: quieter guy. I think some of it's that we don't

1058
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: really pay attention to the Titans the work. When's the

1059
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: last time like people were like hyping It's like no

1060
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: one dumps on the Titans, right just no one talks

1061
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: about the Titans like I was the opposite of love

1062
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: isn't hate. The opposite of love is apathy, right because like,

1063
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: at least if you hate somebody, you still care enough

1064
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: to think about them in some sort of way. Like

1065
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: the Titans, Like no one you know, I mean the

1066
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: apologies all Titans fans out there, a pal are Opal

1067
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: just th Graver who does a lot of great Titans content.

1068
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: I mean, they just generally aren't high in the public consciousness.

1069
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: The volunteer state, the volunteer.

1070
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: State hints hints of the mascot of the University of Tennessee.

1071
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: That's right, which brings us back to land of bad

1072
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: full circle.

1073
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Shout out to

1074
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: pit that movie man. Let's move on. You're your sight end.

1075
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: Like I felt like, if you're gonna do rookie tight end,

1076
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: you only had two options. So Florida, you took one.

1077
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: I took the other, your rookie breakout tight end.

1078
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm in on both of them, but I do prefer

1079
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren because one, I I know, Lovelin got drafted higher,

1080
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: but I had Warren as my tight end one in

1081
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 3: the pre draft process as like that was kind of consensus.

1082
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: And then Ben Johnson shocked the world. But Warren. Look,

1083
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: I said this in the past, but if you're catching

1084
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: up or whatever, like everything that people said about are

1085
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: saying about Tyler Warren right now was being said about

1086
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: about Rock Bowers last season, like target competition, poor quarterback play,

1087
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: all of that. But the thing is I went and

1088
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: looked for both Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson and they

1089
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 3: are at their best when they are throwing short to

1090
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: intermediate in the middle of the field. That is where

1091
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: I expect Tyler Warren to just live right like across

1092
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: the middle, be that safety blanket. And I know this

1093
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 3: is a hot take. I've said this in the past

1094
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: two like, it would not surprise me if he ends

1095
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: up leading this team in targets even as a rookie,

1096
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: because he is that much of a weapon after the

1097
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: catch that I think they are just gonna have a

1098
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: ton of plays where it's like, get the ball to

1099
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: Warren right now. So he's These two, though not only

1100
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: Marcus Is, Warren and Loveland are gonna be probably my

1101
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: most drafted tight ends. I'm fine with like double dipping

1102
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: them both because of where they go. You could easily

1103
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: do so and then just hoping one hits, because that's

1104
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: to me, there's not a lot of upside at tight end,

1105
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 3: especially once you get by like the top seven name

1106
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: or whatever, and these two guys clearly bring the most

1107
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: upside in my opinion.

1108
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: So I love Tyler Warren as a prospect. I mean,

1109
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: everything he did in at Penn State offense, and they

1110
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: asked him to do a lot, he did it successfully

1111
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: and it was amazing to watch. I thought he was

1112
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna be the number one tight end off the board.

1113
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't. So that's sort of why I'm pivoting to

1114
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: Colston Loveland, just because obviously Ben Johnson has a plan

1115
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: for him right now. If they're gonna make him there

1116
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: the top drafted side end, you know, I'm not gonna

1117
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: sit here and pretend that he's going to put up

1118
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: a Sam Laporta like season in year number one. But

1119
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: I do think there's going to be opportunities. So I

1120
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: will admit I have fallen into the Tyler Warren like

1121
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback worries bad offense sort of thing like that

1122
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: has sort of scared me off a little bit. I

1123
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: love his talent, don't love the situation for Loveland. I

1124
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: love the situation. The only concern I have with him

1125
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of target competition in Chicago. Right

1126
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: when you know you've got more, you've got odoons. DeAndre

1127
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: Swift is gonna get his targets. You know they're got to,

1128
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure figure out some way to work in Luther

1129
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: Burden after spending a draft pick on him as well.

1130
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: So there is a lot of target competition in Chicago.

1131
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: But I just I'm sort of believing in Ben Johnson

1132
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: and whatever plan they have for him. So that's why

1133
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: he's my breakout tight end. But you know, if you

1134
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: if you're saying Tyler Warren, I'm not gonna argue too hard.

1135
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to push back on that because I

1136
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: think there's an equal chance of him doing that as well.

1137
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I you know, I like both these rookie

1138
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: tight ends. I don't think Chicka Conko is a bad

1139
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: option either. I think if you're talking after the first,

1140
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, six or seven tight ends, you can take

1141
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: all those names, throw them up in the air and

1142
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: whatever order they land in, Like, sure, yeah, that could happen.

1143
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: We're asking us for top ten.

1144
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: No one had zach Ertz and Hunter Henry's top twelve

1145
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: tight ends last year, you.

1146
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: Know, or even Dallas Goddard with his limited play in

1147
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: points per game, Like, I was really surprised to see

1148
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: Dallas Cotlett numbers, which again is more a statement on

1149
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: the position than it is individual play. It is true.

1150
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what year was it? There was

1151
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: a year where uh, like Jason Witten, like late in

1152
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: his career, was like a top ten tied end and

1153
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: like all he did is basically just catch the ball

1154
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: and fall down. You know.

1155
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh that was so awful. He'd averaged like eight catches

1156
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: a game and like thirty.

1157
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: Two yards, but he had like once I loved back

1158
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: in the day, that was just.

1159
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: A touchdown machine. That's all he did.

1160
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: Kyle Rudolph was the one that I would always chase

1161
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: my tail on.

1162
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, I wanted Kyle out away for Earth Smith.

1163
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: But I've said this before Man.

1164
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: On Earth, but I would never I was let Irv

1165
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: swerve for years. Just never happened, never swerved.

1166
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, justin Jefferson's rookie year was the chance he had

1167
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: to break.

1168
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Out, but it just didn't work. It didn't happen. So

1169
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: uh poor went out for for Smith for sure. Uh

1170
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: poor for the show because it's over. We're back with

1171
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: you on Thursday. You're not with us though, right you're

1172
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: you're off you. You decided for some reason Floyo to

1173
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: go to the Bayou in July, so god speed.

1174
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1175
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: Well I'm just the best man, you know. I I

1176
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: just I go where the groom wants to go. But

1177
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: now there's hurricane warnings, so.

1178
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: Wish me luck.

1179
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, man, uh be safe.

1180
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Have fun out there though. The New Orleans a fun,

1181
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: fun town. Bring a flashlight just in case I should.

1182
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: I should explain, So you know, we get the chance

1183
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: to talk to a lot of the players here. Steve

1184
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Smith is always very entertaining to talk to Steve Smith Senior,

1185
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: And somehow we ended up in a conversation about the

1186
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: different cities he's played in throughout his career, and he

1187
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: was giving us assessments of them, and when it came

1188
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: to the city of New Orleans, he said it's dark,

1189
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: and we were like, you mean like vibes, like the atmosphere.

1190
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: He's like, no, just like physically there's just not enough

1191
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: lighting in the city of New Orleans. It's just dark. Like, oh,

1192
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm.

1193
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: Gonna be on the lookout for lights.

1194
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, depending on what part of the French Quarter

1195
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: you're in. He is absolutely right, it can be very dark,

1196
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: so bring a lantern or a flashlight or something and

1197
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: and stay sick.

1198
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: A candle.

1199
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: In the hurricane.

1200
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a super company candles.

1201
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Walking down the street with the candles seems really really creepy. Uh. Anyway,

1202
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: that'll do it for. This is the ship of the

1203
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, saving healthy, do good

1204
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: and live well. Uh stay say Florida, we'll talk to you.

1205
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: So for the rest of you will have the cheat

1206
00:58:33,800 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: sheet on Thursday, We'll talk to you. Then takes a

1207
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: Alcott