Speaker 1: I'm Thomas White.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fish on first on Fould Territory Network.
Speaker 3: Alrighty, Fishing Filtered, Episode one point fifteen here with aj
Speaker 3: Ramos Isakazuit. Unfortunately, times aren't going very well right now
Speaker 3: for these Morlans, but that doesn't mean that they still
Speaker 3: aren't in a non competitive spot. They find themselves currently
Speaker 3: tied it for the third wild card, and we brought
Speaker 3: the right guy to talk about what the Marlins could
Speaker 3: be doing come deadline day here with Robert Murray. Fans
Speaker 3: side it also does a lot of work for Foul Territory. Robert,
Speaker 3: thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 1: How we're doing.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great.
Speaker 5: This is like the best time of the our best
Speaker 5: time of the year. This is like my Christmas. So
Speaker 5: I could not be more excited to be talking deadline,
Speaker 5: Excited to be here with you boys.
Speaker 4: I've been a big fan of the show. Love fol terror. Sorry,
Speaker 4: how you guys doing happy? Two Almost weeks away from
Speaker 4: the deadline, so let's get after it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirteen days away for the August third deadline, a
Speaker 3: little later than usual.
Speaker 4: Not a fan of it.
Speaker 3: I think the teams probably prefer that just so that
Speaker 3: gives them a little more time to prepare, but Robert
Speaker 3: Marlin's currently fifty two to forty nine. They're tied for
Speaker 3: the third World card spot with the Pluff teams. Would
Speaker 3: have been your thoughts on the team? Definitely one of
Speaker 3: the surprises in baseball to Citalyes, no, for sure, and.
Speaker 5: This is a team where entering the season I wasn't
Speaker 5: exactly sure where they were going to be at, but
Speaker 5: they've exceeded my expectations. And I think Peter Bendix has
Speaker 5: done a terrific job in assembling this roster last year.
Speaker 5: Like he's he's done some pretty epic deadline selloffs and
Speaker 5: he ended up getting some young players in, got his
Speaker 5: guy with Clayton McCullough there, and I think they've just
Speaker 5: done a terrific job overall. So they've had some guys
Speaker 5: that have really kind of broken out this season, have
Speaker 5: some really impressive names. They're both offensively on the pitching side.
Speaker 5: I still think they're going to be in a position
Speaker 5: where they add I know it's been kind of bumpy recently.
Speaker 5: I'm optimistic that they're going to be buyers, but I
Speaker 5: don't know exactly how aggressive they can be, or that
Speaker 5: they ultimately will be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see, especially I guess
Speaker 6: it depends on how you know this next couple days
Speaker 6: or you know, weeks ago or whatever. But I want
Speaker 6: to get your thoughts on who has impressed you the
Speaker 6: most of this team and was it someone that was
Speaker 6: kind of off your radar that you know surprised you,
Speaker 6: or is it somebody that maybe you kind of thought
Speaker 6: would have a breakout season or you know, what's your
Speaker 6: thoughts behind that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously Max Meyer is a guy that automatically stands
Speaker 5: out as a player who just really is incredibly talented.
Speaker 5: But I would also go with a guy who I
Speaker 5: think is underrated nationally, Liam Hicks.
Speaker 4: He's been terrific this season for them.
Speaker 5: I think he deserves a ton more credit because it's
Speaker 5: really hard to find a like definitive answer at catcher,
Speaker 5: Like you look at the Yankees, you look at the Padres,
Speaker 5: I mean, so many other contending teams they want to
Speaker 5: have that guy behind them plates. I think he deserves
Speaker 5: a ton of credit for what he's done there, So
Speaker 5: I think him Otto Lopez, But I just I got
Speaker 5: to go back to the job that that Bendix has
Speaker 5: done because Obviously he's made a lot of trades here,
Speaker 5: but like he's made he's made good moves, and he's
Speaker 5: got them in a position where again, like we've I've
Speaker 5: talked about it on my podcast, I was talking about
Speaker 5: it with Tom Raduch. She have talked about it with
Speaker 5: others across the league where they have sold so much
Speaker 5: that now it's time to keep building this team, add
Speaker 5: to it to try to compete for a postseason spot
Speaker 5: because we look at the American League.
Speaker 4: The American League is just I don't want.
Speaker 5: To call it a joke, but there's no real team
Speaker 5: that's like standing out as like a as an elite
Speaker 5: juggernaut team. Nationally, there's obviously more competition, but like, this
Speaker 5: is a really good time for the Marlins to try
Speaker 5: to go out and get it.
Speaker 7: You mentioned Liam Hickson for the first time in a while,
Speaker 7: the Marls has some pretty attractive options behind the dish.
Speaker 7: You think about it, They have you know him, they
Speaker 7: have Joe Mack, they have obviously Ramire is down there
Speaker 7: in triple A, and it has to mention that, hey,
Speaker 7: maybe you know we mution be the great job Peter
Speaker 7: is done. He likes to sell high on his assets
Speaker 7: and Limp Hicks seems like one of those potential trade
Speaker 7: chips that Miami could dangle that they're like for not
Speaker 7: only to sell out, but to maybe bring in some
Speaker 7: other major league tellent, what are your thoughts on maybe
Speaker 7: the Marlins dangling someone like Liam Hicks.
Speaker 5: I think they gotta be careful not to get too
Speaker 5: cute with it. But also, you look at all these
Speaker 5: teams that are going to be looking for catching, Like
Speaker 5: I listened to the Potter as I listed the Yankees,
Speaker 5: you gotta imagine the Pirates will try to be in
Speaker 5: there as well. I mean, they spent the first overall
Speaker 5: pick on Henry Davis, but that has not panned out.
Speaker 5: They traded Joey Bart. You gotta imagine they'll be involved.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be a bunch of other teams that are
Speaker 5: gonna be in the mix for catching, for sure. But
Speaker 5: if I'm the Marlins, I listen, and you know what,
Speaker 5: if you're blown away with an offer like yeah, maybe
Speaker 5: go out and do it. But I would be careful
Speaker 5: because it's really tough to find that guy behind them playing.
Speaker 4: Do you guys agree, Like, where are we at with this?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean you have really in what my I think
Speaker 7: the consensus is here that Joe Mack is a generational
Speaker 7: player that they have behind the dish, both defensively and
Speaker 7: I think offensively. Whatever he does just gravy and to
Speaker 7: have multiple options is very valuable. I wouldn't touch William
Speaker 7: makes is arguably your best hitter.
Speaker 8: He's your RBI leader.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't subtract major league roster part of what's made
Speaker 7: your team competitive at the deadline just to try and
Speaker 7: like you said, get cute with it.
Speaker 5: No, And also, like we've seen the Atlanta Braves too,
Speaker 5: like Alexanthopolis is always prioritized having a couple guys there.
Speaker 5: They've had, you know, they've had Murphy Drake Baldwin like
Speaker 5: they always have to, and it seems like it always
Speaker 5: pans out for him.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I like it for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah already, Agent, I want to go to you with
Speaker 3: this because this has been a hot topic recently with
Speaker 3: Pete Fairbanks has not gone very well for him and
Speaker 3: his Marlin's ten year, especially most recently in Milwaukee, gives
Speaker 3: up the walk off bomb to William Contreras. Obviously he
Speaker 3: as a former closer. I want to get your thoughts
Speaker 3: on just Pete's season as a whole. What are you
Speaker 3: seeing with him? And how do you get out of
Speaker 3: this type of funk. He kind of admitted to it
Speaker 3: after that Milwaukee game that like, this has been really
Speaker 3: tough for him. It's been probably the toughest stretch of
Speaker 3: his career.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, it's really tough when you're going through, especially as
Speaker 6: a closer, when you're going through some tough times.
Speaker 1: It's one of those.
Speaker 6: Things where you know, when you're having a bad game,
Speaker 6: more than likely your team has a big chance to
Speaker 6: lose when you're going through a stretch like this. So
Speaker 6: for Pete, it's being able to get back out there,
Speaker 6: get back out there in those save situations because before
Speaker 6: he was having troubles in non saved situations and that's
Speaker 6: where the majority of his blow ups were, which is
Speaker 6: kind of common for a closer because the situation, no
Speaker 6: matter how much you try to make it the same
Speaker 6: in your head, it's just not it's not the same energy.
Speaker 6: But then it's kind of sneaking over into the actual
Speaker 6: save situations as well. And for me, it's the execution
Speaker 6: of his pitches. I mean the homer that he gave
Speaker 6: up there was two strikes. He was trying to throw
Speaker 6: a cutter inside it seemed to a arriety and it
Speaker 6: leaked back over the plate right down the middle. So
Speaker 6: it seems he's having trouble putting guys away and making
Speaker 6: his pitches when it counts the most. And for him,
Speaker 6: it's it's reverting back to that same mentality that he's
Speaker 6: always had and understanding that.
Speaker 1: He still has the stuff. It's just about.
Speaker 6: Executing his pitches a little bit better, and you have
Speaker 6: to believe that so and the Marlins need him during
Speaker 6: this stretch. So it's it's mostly just about getting back
Speaker 6: that mindset because you don't see anything mechanically, anything metrically,
Speaker 6: and nothing like that that's going on.
Speaker 1: It's strictly mindset and execution.
Speaker 6: So figuring out how to get that back into your
Speaker 6: body basically and allows you to elevate your stuff again
Speaker 6: and pitch with confidence, because right now it seems like
Speaker 6: he's not thrown with much confidence. He's thrown with emotion,
Speaker 6: and that's two different things. You can't be thrown with emotion.
Speaker 6: You got through with the confidence and that elevates your stuff.
Speaker 6: When you throw with emotion, it kind of magnifies situations
Speaker 6: and causes you to get out of your delivery, causes
Speaker 6: you to not execute your pitches. And that's what you're
Speaker 6: seeing right now. So it's just a matter of time
Speaker 6: before he gets out of it, hopefully sooner than later.
Speaker 6: But he has the stuff, his stuff is still tracking well,
Speaker 6: it's just about executing his pitches.
Speaker 1: Just a little bit better.
Speaker 3: And then going to Robert, what is pete situation right
Speaker 3: now in the trade market? Is that a name that
Speaker 3: he has even floated around? Like obviously, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: a team could say, hey, this has gotten a one
Speaker 3: year deal marks mean the rest of the money, and
Speaker 3: he's a guy that maybe they could fix or put
Speaker 3: in a different situation. Where does he stand right now?
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about trading major leaguers from the roster.
Speaker 3: Pete's name maybe has floated around potentially.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you look at it.
Speaker 5: He's got a seven point four to two era like
Speaker 5: the worst of his careers. You can see right there,
Speaker 5: Like how many teams are realistically going to be gunning
Speaker 5: for that? So I don't see him being like a
Speaker 5: super popular trade candidate here. But I that being said, though,
Speaker 5: like the relief market is so like bare like a
Speaker 5: role as Chapman was a guy that I thought was
Speaker 5: going to be mood for sure. Then the Red Sox
Speaker 5: somehow win fourteen in a row. They can't lose. They're
Speaker 5: never gonna lose again in Boston, so it seems like
Speaker 5: they're probably gonna end up keeping Chapman, keeping those guys,
Speaker 5: Luke Weaver.
Speaker 4: Probably, I think he'll probably end up going.
Speaker 5: Mason Miller has been the guy that's been floating around
Speaker 5: a bunch here, and I'm still skeptical that he's going
Speaker 5: to be moved. It seems like I'm in a minority
Speaker 5: compared to the rest of the national media on that,
Speaker 5: so I'll see exactly how that plays out for me.
Speaker 5: But that being said, though, I maybe a team ends
Speaker 5: up having a need for Fairbanks and there's so or
Speaker 5: having a need for a high leverage guy and there's
Speaker 5: so limited options that they end up trying to get
Speaker 5: him from Miami. But my guess is he stays put
Speaker 5: possible that maybe they can end up trying to add
Speaker 5: somebody externally, maybe a low cost guy. I don't necessarily
Speaker 5: have a name off the top of my head, but
Speaker 5: I think that could be something that they consider, and
Speaker 5: I mean, shoot, they still have some talented guys back there,
Speaker 5: but they need him, need him to perform in order
Speaker 5: to actually get back into the serious postseason consideration.
Speaker 6: Here, how much do like, especially for a lady, any guy,
Speaker 6: how much do the numbers in safe situations and non
Speaker 6: safe situations matter to teams.
Speaker 1: That are looking for this?
Speaker 6: Because I gotta go back and look, but I want
Speaker 6: to say that most of his you know, bad outings
Speaker 6: have been in non safe situations. I think up till
Speaker 6: this he's only blown four or three three saves, three
Speaker 6: saves so far up until this point, So he's been
Speaker 6: successful in that area. It's just non safe situations he's
Speaker 6: been really bad, which is he's trying to fight those numbers.
Speaker 6: So how much do teams take count account for that
Speaker 6: those type of splits?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's definitely a legitimate thing here for sure.
Speaker 5: And like, do you keep him predominantly in that ninth
Speaker 5: inning role? Like I think if the numbers back that up,
Speaker 5: like like you're saying there, I think you absolutely have
Speaker 5: to consider that. But do you add somebody who is
Speaker 5: or you do add more depth where you can actually
Speaker 5: keep Fairbanks into the ninth inning, Like it's definitely something
Speaker 5: that teams just keep an eye on here for sure.
Speaker 5: So I think that's one of the many things that
Speaker 5: they got to consider. I wouldn't put like the bullpen
Speaker 5: as like the top priority there, but I do think
Speaker 5: that's it's definitely something they should be considering here for sure.
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Speaker 7: It's tough because you have vendor on the IL going
Speaker 7: into the season. You lose running in Reguez for the
Speaker 7: whole season. You have John King on the IL. It's
Speaker 7: just there's no word to put fair Banks because who's
Speaker 7: going to replace him? The ninth in you have Michael Peterson,
Speaker 7: But has he really ever done this at the highest level.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure, but I guess depending on where you
Speaker 8: see these standings going for.
Speaker 7: You look at the National Wildcard and this is gonna
Speaker 7: be a lot of fun going down the stretch. Cardinals, Marlins,
Speaker 7: Pirates all tied for that final wildcard spot that Marlins
Speaker 7: have all of a sudden dropped the four games behind Philadelphia,
Speaker 7: which is just irksome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the National is just.
Speaker 8: One game behind, and assuming the Padres.
Speaker 7: Go on and sell, basically it seems like four teams
Speaker 7: five teams for one spot. What do you what do
Speaker 7: you predict this ends up looking like the playoff picture of.
Speaker 5: The National League. Oh, that's a great question here. I
Speaker 5: still think the Cubs end up making it. I think
Speaker 5: Philadelphia makes it. Can I go with an odd ball one?
Speaker 5: I'm going with the Pirates to make it here too.
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, which I know I'm on of Marlins podcast.
Speaker 5: People are gonna be eat me alive for But like
Speaker 5: I'm in the Pittsburgh Pirates trade. Man, Like they they
Speaker 5: have had such a like a like a nice turnarund there.
Speaker 5: They got these young pieces there, they have such a
Speaker 5: strong core.
Speaker 4: Expect them to add.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're gonna go out and make
Speaker 5: like a big splashy move by any means, but you
Speaker 5: add controllable pieces to that team where they can compete
Speaker 5: this year and they'll also going forward. I think Ben
Speaker 5: Cherrington's done a really nice job turning around. I know
Speaker 5: he's gotten a bunch of flak, but I also think
Speaker 5: he deserves some credit here. That being said, though, I'm
Speaker 5: not discounting the Miami Marlins, and I'm not just saying
Speaker 5: that to try to save face here, but like they're
Speaker 5: obviously going through a tough stretch, but they've had such
Speaker 5: a strong season. You add maybe someone to third base,
Speaker 5: maybe another pitcher as well, then I think we could
Speaker 5: be cooking with gas here. So you know what, Like,
Speaker 5: I think the Marlins absolutely have a chance here. I
Speaker 5: get it's been bad, but they shouldn't deter them from
Speaker 5: going on buying and I am absolutely adamant about that.
Speaker 3: I guess on the flip side there, Robert, what would
Speaker 3: it take for them to sell? What would it take
Speaker 3: for the Marlins to just say, hey, you know, they
Speaker 3: continue to play that they're on this losing streak. They
Speaker 3: have a tough schedule coming up with the Padres, Phillies,
Speaker 3: Matt's Braves, a lot of Division opponents just at this.
Speaker 3: What would it take for them to say, hey, maybe
Speaker 3: either we stand pat or we are gonna have to
Speaker 3: move off of a couple pieces. So just look forward
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 8: Five in a row, more, five more in a row.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, do the exact opposite of what
Speaker 5: the Red Sox are doing and just lose out because
Speaker 5: it's I just I can't see him going out and
Speaker 5: doing it. And obviously teams around the league would probably
Speaker 5: love that because if the Marlins just lost until the deadline,
Speaker 5: they would probably mean that the chances of a Sandy
Speaker 5: El Contra trader probably going up. But I still can't
Speaker 5: see Sandy going anywhere. I'd be really surprised if they're
Speaker 5: in a position to go out and sell. Like, I get,
Speaker 5: the schedules tough, but it's not like the Potters are
Speaker 5: like unbeatable. I mean, they're behind the Marlins in the
Speaker 5: wild card standings. Here, Philadelphia is going to be tough
Speaker 5: and they're going to be very aggressive on the market.
Speaker 5: I would expect Dave Dombroski and Preston Manningley to make
Speaker 5: multiple moves there to address that team, so they'll only
Speaker 5: get better. But I just again, I cannot see the
Speaker 5: Marlins be in a position to sell, and I personally
Speaker 5: don't hope that happens because Marlins fans deserve a team
Speaker 5: that's actually going on and contending.
Speaker 7: Speaking of the podcast, I'm curious to get your thoughts
Speaker 7: on the whole Mason Miller situation because obviously I don't
Speaker 7: think that Miami is going to be a candidate to
Speaker 7: land him. Unfortunately or fortunately, however, you look at acquiring
Speaker 7: big time relievers, but what kind of prospect package is
Speaker 7: a J. Piller going to demand in return after giving
Speaker 7: away le would I'm just curious what your thoughts are
Speaker 7: on what that never looks like.
Speaker 5: I would imagine he's got to be looking for something
Speaker 5: better than he gave up last year. Yeah, or that,
Speaker 5: or like obviously the scenario that's been floating around of
Speaker 5: attaching Xander Ballgards to that contract, and like, again, I
Speaker 5: don't I don't see that happening. I can't see any
Speaker 5: or any team being in a hurry to go out
Speaker 5: and doing that. But okay, let's let's take a step
Speaker 5: back here for a second, because this is something that's
Speaker 5: been on my mind just ever since the Mace Miller.
Speaker 4: Rumors have been popping out here. A J.
Speaker 5: Prowler wanted Mason Miller badly. He coveted him for multiple years.
Speaker 5: He finally got and gave up the number two prospect
Speaker 5: in baseball to go out and get him. Miller's been
Speaker 5: phenomenal ever since they got him, and he's been the
Speaker 5: best reliever ball and you then a year later go
Speaker 5: out and trade him again, Like I.
Speaker 4: It's a smell test to me.
Speaker 5: Like AJ probably keeps his guys he'll find a way
Speaker 5: to keep him. But that being said, though he listens
Speaker 5: on everything. I'm not kidding you. If you could trade
Speaker 5: like one of the four of us, he probably would.
Speaker 5: He'll listen on all of us. It's freaking crazy, but everything,
Speaker 5: he listens on everything, And if he gets an offer
Speaker 5: that he deems like he cannot turn down, he'll trade you.
Speaker 5: But like that being said, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 5: think Miller is likely going to be moved again. I
Speaker 5: could be wrong. I've been surprised before, especially with probably
Speaker 5: He's always a wild card, But I just don't see
Speaker 5: this one happening here.
Speaker 8: Robert.
Speaker 3: I'm curious how do the CDA negotiations or the impending
Speaker 3: lockout effect this deadline, specifically with maybe teams fearing or
Speaker 3: you know, I guess the owners hoping that there's a
Speaker 3: salary cap and ceiling that do teams add to the
Speaker 3: payrolls this time around, or do you think it's just
Speaker 3: business as usual.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be business as usual, But I
Speaker 5: would also see teams really prioritizing guys for controllable and
Speaker 5: cheap and like obviously hear that every deadline, But I
Speaker 5: think this deadline something that's like even more in focus.
Speaker 5: So I expect there to be plenty of moves for sure.
Speaker 5: I would also expect a lot of those moves to
Speaker 5: becoming closer to the deadline day of August third. I
Speaker 5: would also keep this in mind here as well, as
Speaker 5: I would expect there to be more extensions across the league,
Speaker 5: because one thing I learned from the last CBA stuff
Speaker 5: was that players wanted that financial certainty. They wanted to know, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be with this team, I got my
Speaker 5: money guaranteed, I know where I'm going to be. So
Speaker 5: I could see players really trying to get extend. We've
Speaker 5: already seen a bunch here, Chase Burns, Kyle Bradish, JJ Weatherholt.
Speaker 5: Obviously those guys weren't, like especially weather Holton Burns, they
Speaker 5: weren't close to free agency. But I would expect there
Speaker 5: to be more talks across the league, and it sounds
Speaker 5: like there already are a good amount that are happening
Speaker 5: behind the scenes here.
Speaker 7: Robert, we are what was it, thirteen days until the
Speaker 7: trade dead line? The Marlins sit four games? Are they
Speaker 7: three games over five hundred? Still tough schedule coming up,
Speaker 7: like we said, not super tough, but tough enough.
Speaker 8: You see where they've been struggling. You see where they
Speaker 8: have been succeeding.
Speaker 7: What are your top two deadline needs for this Miami
Speaker 7: Marlins team. We'll see how they compare with ours. Okay,
Speaker 7: So first of all, I'll go third base.
Speaker 5: I think that's something where they got to go out
Speaker 5: and do something here whether okay, like the options for
Speaker 5: hitting are so limited here, but okay, let me let
Speaker 5: me let me go through my process here for third base.
Speaker 5: I had a rival executive tell me that he thought
Speaker 5: Matt Chapman would be a really good fit for Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: So let's say Philadelphia goes out and gets Chapman. What
Speaker 5: exactly happens without Boom? Could Boom then become a fit
Speaker 5: for the Marlins? Like again, like that's a big salary.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if necessarily to go out and
Speaker 5: do something like that, yeah, or would Philly even trade
Speaker 5: them within the division? He's also on an expiring contracts.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't I cannot see Miami going
Speaker 5: out and getting Chapman. I think that'd be a bigger
Speaker 5: and bigger thing there for sure. But I would also
Speaker 5: go I would also go starting pitcher. I think that
Speaker 5: could end up being adding some depth there for sure.
Speaker 5: Again I mentioned a reliever, but I think starting pitcher
Speaker 5: in third base, not in that order, third base then
Speaker 5: starting pitcher.
Speaker 4: What was that stack of it where you guys are
Speaker 4: at or what are we talking about?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean over the last three years, I thought
Speaker 7: Connor Norby was going to be the answer.
Speaker 8: They thought Countin norb was going to be the answer.
Speaker 1: Maybe not.
Speaker 7: Grind Polly would be sort of solidified there at third
Speaker 7: base for his defensive prowess, but just neither of them
Speaker 7: have really learned how to hit major league pitching. They've
Speaker 7: tried Christopher Morrell, They've tried Higersonov but they like him
Speaker 7: off the bench.
Speaker 8: They've tried Leo Jimenez for a way longer than we
Speaker 8: all would have liked.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, third base is number one on that board
Speaker 7: because you're supposed to get offense from that position.
Speaker 8: They have the worst third base production all of major
Speaker 8: League baseball.
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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna flip this on you guys, Now, do
Speaker 5: you do you boys have a dream target for the
Speaker 5: Miami Marlins?
Speaker 8: We think well, o Roldest chairman, was that guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like the.
Speaker 8: Cuban missile, like finally in Miami.
Speaker 7: I think the Marins have been trying to get him
Speaker 7: for such a long time, since I've been a kid, like,
Speaker 7: They've always wanted to have him here and it never
Speaker 7: worked out. I think that would have really electrified this crowd,
Speaker 7: you know, a Cuban star for the first time until
Speaker 7: that would have been a lot of fun. But yeah,
Speaker 7: that was my guy, Kevin. I don't know if you
Speaker 7: guys have one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a Chapman. I mean, still, what he's
Speaker 3: doing at this age and this point in his career
Speaker 3: is insane.
Speaker 4: Just that would have been an awesome option.
Speaker 3: Just I mean, you could have had the opportunity to
Speaker 3: have two closures, one one of Lefty, the other one's
Speaker 3: the writing with Fairbanks, And that would have been awesome, honestly,
Speaker 3: and it would have slowified the back end of the bullpen,
Speaker 3: and you add Bender into that mix and John King,
Speaker 3: who's had a really nice season for the Marlins.
Speaker 4: The Marlins already had a top ten bullpen in baseball.
Speaker 3: You were probably looking at like top five or top
Speaker 3: three with all those guys healthy plus Chapman.
Speaker 4: For sure, I love that. That would have been a great fit.
Speaker 4: AG Do you have one or was it Chapman?
Speaker 1: I mean Chapman would be dope. I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: have one specifically.
Speaker 6: I have to look at what the options are, like
Speaker 6: I know for the Marlins, for me, a third baseman
Speaker 6: would be would be huge. That's one of the biggest needs.
Speaker 6: And obviously adding a bullpen guy. I mean, you can
Speaker 6: never have too much bullpen help and a starter like
Speaker 6: depth again pitching, you always need pitching. But for me,
Speaker 6: I think the third baseman for sure, I don't know who.
Speaker 6: I don't know if Matt, like you mentioned Matt Chapman,
Speaker 6: I don't know if you would be a fit. As
Speaker 6: far as the makeup wise, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 6: he's a veteran guy, but they do different things differently
Speaker 6: with the Marlins.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he.
Speaker 6: Fits that type of system, right, you know, So it
Speaker 6: may there may be some headbutting going on there. Even
Speaker 6: though he's a great player, good veteran guy. It just
Speaker 6: didn't seem wouldn't it wouldn't work out. So that's one
Speaker 6: of the things too, is that when they add, they
Speaker 6: want to add someone that fits their current system. And
Speaker 6: I got to do a little bit more digging to
Speaker 6: see how and who would would fit better best at
Speaker 6: that spot because there's a lot of teams. I mean,
Speaker 6: the Yankees need a third basement and you know, they.
Speaker 1: Have a lot of.
Speaker 6: Prospect capital to get maybe a third baseman, more so
Speaker 6: than the Marlins, because the Yankees are in for sure
Speaker 6: by mode, you know what I mean. The Marlins are
Speaker 6: do more crafty things. So it's a tough position right now,
Speaker 6: and I don't see very many options.
Speaker 1: But Peter Bendix is crafty man. We'll see.
Speaker 6: We'll see what kind of magic heat he does and
Speaker 6: what kind of diamond in a rough he finds, possibly
Speaker 6: and see what they do with that.
Speaker 3: One guy would love and not maybe a dream, but
Speaker 3: read detvers on this team, multiple years of control, young
Speaker 3: starting pitcher. You put him to the middle of the
Speaker 3: back end of that rotation. Finally able to move Tyler
Speaker 3: Phillips back to the bullpen where I think he rightfully belongs,
Speaker 3: not saying he's been a bad starter by any means,
Speaker 3: but just fits more in that bullpen roll high leverage,
Speaker 3: especially where the team is right now with the injuries,
Speaker 3: Detmers would be an awesome get.
Speaker 4: For this Marlins team. I whole heartedly agree.
Speaker 5: I mean, you add him to that, I mean, hoys, folks, man,
Speaker 5: I'd be freaking sweet. I mean, you you add him.
Speaker 5: He's although he's gonna it's gonna cost the Kings ransom
Speaker 5: to go out and get him. Yeah, a bunch of
Speaker 5: teams after him. I still think the Chicago White Sox
Speaker 5: would be an awesome fit for a guy like Read,
Speaker 5: especially for rotation.
Speaker 4: Help you add him like, oh, like the other one too.
Speaker 5: If if you want to maximize Read Detmvers' abilities, get
Speaker 5: him in a net Brews pitching lab.
Speaker 4: Oh my yeah, we'd be cooking like they did.
Speaker 5: You guys see what they end up doing yesterday with
Speaker 5: a Lancema Colors Like he looked like a totally different guy.
Speaker 1: I missed it.
Speaker 5: He just looked crisp. They switched up with a few
Speaker 5: different things with his arsenal. I mean obviously he's one outing,
Speaker 5: but like, yeah, Chris Hook and that Chris Hook in
Speaker 5: that pitching lab or like that pitching crew that they
Speaker 5: got there.
Speaker 4: In Milwaukee is just remarkable. So shout out to those
Speaker 4: guys for sure.
Speaker 7: I think what we could also ask you is, what
Speaker 7: do you think that Texas Rangers are going to do?
Speaker 7: Is there sort of in that little weird bubble situation
Speaker 7: there in the standings, and I think there are some
Speaker 7: potential targets that they have that I think could be
Speaker 7: of interest to Miami.
Speaker 8: So what do you think the Texas Rangers are going
Speaker 8: to do?
Speaker 5: So I didn't know it's Colin today, and I'm pretty
Speaker 5: sure I ended up doing a shrug emoji for the
Speaker 5: Texas Rangers because they're kind of up in the air
Speaker 5: at this point. They don't necessarily know what they're going
Speaker 5: to do, if they're going to go buy it or
Speaker 5: if they're going to sell. But if they do add,
Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna be anything too too crazy.
Speaker 5: I would look for them possibly at like a high
Speaker 5: leverage reliever. If they do add, maybe a bat or
Speaker 5: like a right handed bat I think would make a
Speaker 5: lot of sense for them. But I'm not expecting anything
Speaker 5: overly too splashy for them. I did think Louis Urryes
Speaker 5: could be a fit, but I don't know if that's
Speaker 5: like the most likely thing at this point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, do you feel there's any extra pressure for these
Speaker 7: Rangers just since that World Series year?
Speaker 8: It just hasn't really broken through yet.
Speaker 7: And maybe you know Chris Young Skip Schumacher, they sort
Speaker 7: of want to really, I guess not too much, but
Speaker 7: I feel like they'd be a little bit aggressive this
Speaker 7: trade the line.
Speaker 5: You would think they're definitely gonna be this submergency there
Speaker 5: for sure, but they also view this as like the
Speaker 5: beginning of their new little era there because they got
Speaker 5: obviously Skip Schumachers.
Speaker 4: This is his first year.
Speaker 5: He's been obviously like a terrific manager, both in Miami
Speaker 5: and now here. There was a bunch of teams that
Speaker 5: wanted to go out and hire him. It is confirmed
Speaker 5: by the way that we got that I had the
Speaker 5: shrug emoji. So that's about remembering what I wrote earlier today.
Speaker 4: So that's good.
Speaker 5: But I again, I just don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 5: anything overly too crazy from from Texas here.
Speaker 4: I just I'm not expecting much.
Speaker 6: What do you got on the On the Astros, I
Speaker 6: know they're kind of up against it, and they got
Speaker 6: a Spada and Dana Brown that they're in their contract
Speaker 6: years right, so it feels like they will buy what
Speaker 6: do you what do you got on them?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I definitely think they're gonna be in a position to buy.
Speaker 5: I think adding an impact starter would be something that'd
Speaker 5: be really smart for them. They saved two point five
Speaker 5: million bucks by trading Lastpa colors, so they have a
Speaker 5: little bit more flexibility. Do they go out and get
Speaker 5: a school type? Do they get a Dept Meers type?
Speaker 5: What exactly does that look like? I think tbd. But
Speaker 5: one thing that I've advocated for them to do is
Speaker 5: listen on Josh Hater because I don't think Chapman or
Speaker 5: oldest Chapman's going to be moved as of this point.
Speaker 5: I mean Luke Weaver possibly, But if you're the Astros
Speaker 5: and you can end up getting some really strong value
Speaker 5: for a Gley Josh Harry still signed for two more
Speaker 5: years nineteen million a year, I think that would be
Speaker 5: something where you can trade him and then use those
Speaker 5: funds to add maybe another big name or two to
Speaker 5: the other part of the rosters, so.
Speaker 4: Some maneuvering there. We've seen the Brewers try to do that.
Speaker 5: With Hater in the past, where they've tried moving him
Speaker 5: and then they tried making a bigger splash. There are
Speaker 5: some names still unconfirmed on my end, so it's been
Speaker 5: a few years since.
Speaker 4: I've been able to try to chase that.
Speaker 5: But I think the Astros could end up trying to
Speaker 5: do something like that, trying to take advantage of a
Speaker 5: week high end relief market.
Speaker 4: So I'm expecting them to do big things.
Speaker 7: Though You've been doing this for a while, mister Rober,
Speaker 7: I'm curious what is like the one Marlins deadline move
Speaker 7: in the last I don't know, let's call it a decade,
Speaker 7: that really just opened your eyes a little bit.
Speaker 8: We're like, wow, I did not expect that.
Speaker 4: Can I can?
Speaker 5: I be totally honest with you, It's gonna end up
Speaker 5: being what they their big deadline sell off that they had,
Speaker 5: Like it was, I'm not can you?
Speaker 4: I was texting it was a couple of years. It
Speaker 4: was the last year is a two years one? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not. I remember I was like, I'm friends with
Speaker 4: Craig Mish and Craig is like I have.
Speaker 5: His tweet notifications on come deadline time, and every single
Speaker 5: tweet I was getting was a Craig Mish deadline notification
Speaker 5: that the Marlins were making it trade and Isaac, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure you were breaking stuff too, Like I've seen
Speaker 5: you break a bunch of news.
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: It was one of the most impressive deadline displays I
Speaker 5: think I've ever seen. And I like the first question
Speaker 5: that I asked Peter Bendix that like after I saw him.
Speaker 5: I think it was at the GM meetings. It's like,
Speaker 5: how how long did you sleep after that? Because like,
Speaker 5: I can't even imagine being part of something like that.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what he told me.
Speaker 5: But like, you know what, I think that stands out
Speaker 5: to me as probably the craziest and also too, like
Speaker 5: that the the Trevor Rodgers deal with the with the
Speaker 5: Orioles and the immediate reaction after that. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: crazy how it's kind of like turned around and gone.
Speaker 7: Back and forth, man, because initially I'm like, oh, wow, great,
Speaker 7: pretty good, you had Norby bad, don't even think about Stours.
Speaker 8: Rogers has an awful year down to Triple A.
Speaker 7: Then he becomes incredibly good again, and the Marlins sort of,
Speaker 7: you know, both of their pieces have sort of struggled
Speaker 7: a little bit.
Speaker 8: So baseball's hard, man, it's really hard.
Speaker 4: It's incredibly hard. But yeah, it's why you can't give
Speaker 4: up on these guys too early.
Speaker 5: Like again, I get that the guys that the Marlins
Speaker 5: acquired kind of struggled a bit, but you know what,
Speaker 5: to be patient with them because.
Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a long race here.
Speaker 5: It's it's not over after this year, not even over
Speaker 5: after after this point.
Speaker 8: Here, man, ridiculous. Yeah, everyone leaves Miami. They started raking,
Speaker 8: hitting three.
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Speaker 3: I'll see this on like Twitter or something like when
Speaker 3: Trevor Rodgers struggles, Kyle Stowers struggles, When Trevor's been good,
Speaker 3: Kyle Stowers been good to look at last year. Now
Speaker 3: this year they both got off to struggling starts. Now
Speaker 3: they're both really good again. So it's it's such a
Speaker 3: weird trade, but it's worked out. But what do you
Speaker 3: think happens with Trevor Robert? I think he's on a
Speaker 3: one year deal. Ools have extended a couple guys, Boz Bradish,
Speaker 3: could he be next?
Speaker 8: What's going on there with trev.
Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as the oils go, like, I think
Speaker 5: if they are in a position where they definitely sell,
Speaker 5: I would look at guys who are on expiring contracts
Speaker 5: and Taylor Ward stands out to me immediately as a
Speaker 5: guy that could be moved, and.
Speaker 8: I think Philadelphia would be a great fit for Ward.
Speaker 5: Like if Rogers is on an expiring contract, then I
Speaker 5: think it would really behoove them to go out and
Speaker 5: listen on him, because you look at the starting pitching market,
Speaker 5: there's obviously a bunch of names, but a lot of
Speaker 5: these contending teams are going to be looking for starting pitching.
Speaker 5: So I definitely think a Gully Rodgers would be like
Speaker 5: a great fit for a lot. We've seen also some
Speaker 5: Addi Ruschman buzz here as well, and I'm skeptical he's
Speaker 5: ultimately going to be moved. I have not gotten the
Speaker 5: indication that they're like in a hurry to move him,
Speaker 5: but I can imagine a guy like AJ Proballer just
Speaker 5: continually beating down the door to try to acquire him,
Speaker 5: because like, if there's a generational generation is probably a
Speaker 5: bit strong, but like a really good first overall pick
Speaker 5: type like that who's produced at the major league level
Speaker 5: possibly available, I can see probably trying to get involved
Speaker 5: with that because we've seen it with Jared Duran and Rutchman,
Speaker 5: especially with they're catching wows like that really stands out
Speaker 5: to me for sure.
Speaker 3: All right it up here then, Robert really appreciate the time.
Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this and uh from Aga Isaac
Speaker 3: and myself. See guys all next week. Peace out and
Speaker 3: as always, go fish.
Speaker 4: Thank you boys.
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