WEBVTT - Marlins Trade Deadline Preview with FanSided's Robert Murray 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:00.800 I'm Thomas White. 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.159 You're listening to Fish on first on Fould Territory Network. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:26.200 Alrighty, Fishing Filtered, Episode one point fifteen here with aj 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.640 Ramos Isakazuit. Unfortunately, times aren't going very well right now 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.040 for these Morlans, but that doesn't mean that they still 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.400 aren't in a non competitive spot. They find themselves currently 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.400 tied it for the third wild card, and we brought 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.680 the right guy to talk about what the Marlins could 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.600 be doing come deadline day here with Robert Murray. Fans 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.600 side it also does a lot of work for Foul Territory. Robert, 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:47.599 thank you for taking the time. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:48.120 How we're doing. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:49.520 I'm doing great. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.520 This is like the best time of the our best 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.360 time of the year. This is like my Christmas. So 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.000 I could not be more excited to be talking deadline, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:58.600 Excited to be here with you boys. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.800 I've been a big fan of the show. Love fol terror. Sorry, 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.080 how you guys doing happy? Two Almost weeks away from 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:05.440 the deadline, so let's get after it. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.920 Yeah, thirteen days away for the August third deadline, a 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:10.919 little later than usual. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.080 Not a fan of it. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.440 I think the teams probably prefer that just so that 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.080 gives them a little more time to prepare, but Robert 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.080 Marlin's currently fifty two to forty nine. They're tied for 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.039 the third World card spot with the Pluff teams. Would 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.720 have been your thoughts on the team? Definitely one of 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.520 the surprises in baseball to Citalyes, no, for sure, and. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.679 This is a team where entering the season I wasn't 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.720 exactly sure where they were going to be at, but 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.959 they've exceeded my expectations. And I think Peter Bendix has 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.360 done a terrific job in assembling this roster last year. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.040 Like he's he's done some pretty epic deadline selloffs and 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.360 he ended up getting some young players in, got his 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.920 guy with Clayton McCullough there, and I think they've just 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.480 done a terrific job overall. So they've had some guys 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.520 that have really kind of broken out this season, have 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.040 some really impressive names. They're both offensively on the pitching side. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.120 I still think they're going to be in a position 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.080 where they add I know it's been kind of bumpy recently. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.480 I'm optimistic that they're going to be buyers, but I 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.760 don't know exactly how aggressive they can be, or that 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:08.880 they ultimately will be. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.400 Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see, especially I guess 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.440 it depends on how you know this next couple days 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.079 or you know, weeks ago or whatever. But I want 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.280 to get your thoughts on who has impressed you the 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:27.600 most of this team and was it someone that was 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.200 kind of off your radar that you know surprised you, 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.480 or is it somebody that maybe you kind of thought 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.480 would have a breakout season or you know, what's your 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:35.240 thoughts behind that? 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.519 Yeah, obviously Max Meyer is a guy that automatically stands 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.760 out as a player who just really is incredibly talented. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.440 But I would also go with a guy who I 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.800 think is underrated nationally, Liam Hicks. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.600 He's been terrific this season for them. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.080 I think he deserves a ton more credit because it's 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.919 really hard to find a like definitive answer at catcher, 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.520 Like you look at the Yankees, you look at the Padres, 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.040 I mean, so many other contending teams they want to 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.240 have that guy behind them plates. I think he deserves 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.760 a ton of credit for what he's done there, So 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.480 I think him Otto Lopez, But I just I got 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.480 to go back to the job that that Bendix has 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.160 done because Obviously he's made a lot of trades here, 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.720 but like he's made he's made good moves, and he's 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.880 got them in a position where again, like we've I've 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.560 talked about it on my podcast, I was talking about 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.160 it with Tom Raduch. She have talked about it with 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.280 others across the league where they have sold so much 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.720 that now it's time to keep building this team, add 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.080 to it to try to compete for a postseason spot 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.600 because we look at the American League. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.640 The American League is just I don't want. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.160 To call it a joke, but there's no real team 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.080 that's like standing out as like a as an elite 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.840 juggernaut team. Nationally, there's obviously more competition, but like, this 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.400 is a really good time for the Marlins to try 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:47.120 to go out and get it. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.080 You mentioned Liam Hickson for the first time in a while, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.760 the Marls has some pretty attractive options behind the dish. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.560 You think about it, They have you know him, they 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.440 have Joe Mack, they have obviously Ramire is down there 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.480 in triple A, and it has to mention that, hey, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.200 maybe you know we mution be the great job Peter 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.600 is done. He likes to sell high on his assets 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.960 and Limp Hicks seems like one of those potential trade 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.040 chips that Miami could dangle that they're like for not 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:10.600 only to sell out, but to maybe bring in some 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.760 other major league tellent, what are your thoughts on maybe 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.720 the Marlins dangling someone like Liam Hicks. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.920 I think they gotta be careful not to get too 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.000 cute with it. But also, you look at all these 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.000 teams that are going to be looking for catching, Like 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.160 I listened to the Potter as I listed the Yankees, 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.320 you gotta imagine the Pirates will try to be in 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.240 there as well. I mean, they spent the first overall 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.080 pick on Henry Davis, but that has not panned out. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.120 They traded Joey Bart. You gotta imagine they'll be involved. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.120 There's gonna be a bunch of other teams that are 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.080 gonna be in the mix for catching, for sure. But 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.520 if I'm the Marlins, I listen, and you know what, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.160 if you're blown away with an offer like yeah, maybe 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.000 go out and do it. But I would be careful 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.400 because it's really tough to find that guy behind them playing. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.120 Do you guys agree, Like, where are we at with this? 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:48.839 Yeah? 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.120 I mean you have really in what my I think 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.760 the consensus is here that Joe Mack is a generational 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.600 player that they have behind the dish, both defensively and 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.640 I think offensively. Whatever he does just gravy and to 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.480 have multiple options is very valuable. I wouldn't touch William 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.040 makes is arguably your best hitter. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:06.799 He's your RBI leader. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.640 I wouldn't subtract major league roster part of what's made 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.120 your team competitive at the deadline just to try and 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.200 like you said, get cute with it. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.920 No, And also, like we've seen the Atlanta Braves too, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.040 like Alexanthopolis is always prioritized having a couple guys there. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.760 They've had, you know, they've had Murphy Drake Baldwin like 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.440 they always have to, and it seems like it always 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:24.200 pans out for him. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.080 So yeah, I like it for sure. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.760 Yeah already, Agent, I want to go to you with 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.520 this because this has been a hot topic recently with 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.719 Pete Fairbanks has not gone very well for him and 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.880 his Marlin's ten year, especially most recently in Milwaukee, gives 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.960 up the walk off bomb to William Contreras. Obviously he 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.680 as a former closer. I want to get your thoughts 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.080 on just Pete's season as a whole. What are you 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.320 seeing with him? And how do you get out of 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.120 this type of funk. He kind of admitted to it 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.080 after that Milwaukee game that like, this has been really 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.680 tough for him. It's been probably the toughest stretch of 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:56.240 his career. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:57.480 Yeah. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.480 Man, it's really tough when you're going through, especially as 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.840 a closer, when you're going through some tough times. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:04.479 It's one of those. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.040 Things where you know, when you're having a bad game, 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.680 more than likely your team has a big chance to 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.480 lose when you're going through a stretch like this. So 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.320 for Pete, it's being able to get back out there, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.680 get back out there in those save situations because before 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.160 he was having troubles in non saved situations and that's 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.480 where the majority of his blow ups were, which is 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:32.200 kind of common for a closer because the situation, no 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.760 matter how much you try to make it the same 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.800 in your head, it's just not it's not the same energy. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.719 But then it's kind of sneaking over into the actual 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:44.560 save situations as well. And for me, it's the execution 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.760 of his pitches. I mean the homer that he gave 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.520 up there was two strikes. He was trying to throw 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.640 a cutter inside it seemed to a arriety and it 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.160 leaked back over the plate right down the middle. So 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:58.320 it seems he's having trouble putting guys away and making 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.440 his pitches when it counts the most. And for him, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.080 it's it's reverting back to that same mentality that he's 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.960 always had and understanding that. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:07.960 He still has the stuff. It's just about. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.560 Executing his pitches a little bit better, and you have 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.800 to believe that so and the Marlins need him during 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.120 this stretch. So it's it's mostly just about getting back 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.920 that mindset because you don't see anything mechanically, anything metrically, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.320 and nothing like that that's going on. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.800 It's strictly mindset and execution. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.040 So figuring out how to get that back into your 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.720 body basically and allows you to elevate your stuff again 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.920 and pitch with confidence, because right now it seems like 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.880 he's not thrown with much confidence. He's thrown with emotion, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.440 and that's two different things. You can't be thrown with emotion. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.119 You got through with the confidence and that elevates your stuff. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.320 When you throw with emotion, it kind of magnifies situations 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.280 and causes you to get out of your delivery, causes 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.800 you to not execute your pitches. And that's what you're 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.280 seeing right now. So it's just a matter of time 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.640 before he gets out of it, hopefully sooner than later. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.520 But he has the stuff, his stuff is still tracking well, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.560 it's just about executing his pitches. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.040 Just a little bit better. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.320 And then going to Robert, what is pete situation right 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:09.920 now in the trade market? Is that a name that 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.960 he has even floated around? Like obviously, you know, maybe 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.760 a team could say, hey, this has gotten a one 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.880 year deal marks mean the rest of the money, and 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.760 he's a guy that maybe they could fix or put 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.120 in a different situation. Where does he stand right now? 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.239 I mean, we're talking about trading major leaguers from the roster. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.680 Pete's name maybe has floated around potentially. 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.160 Yeah, I mean you look at it. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.599 He's got a seven point four to two era like 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.280 the worst of his careers. You can see right there, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.600 Like how many teams are realistically going to be gunning 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.080 for that? So I don't see him being like a 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.600 super popular trade candidate here. But I that being said, though, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.719 like the relief market is so like bare like a 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.319 role as Chapman was a guy that I thought was 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.240 going to be mood for sure. Then the Red Sox 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.280 somehow win fourteen in a row. They can't lose. They're 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.199 never gonna lose again in Boston, so it seems like 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.080 they're probably gonna end up keeping Chapman, keeping those guys, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.199 Luke Weaver. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.440 Probably, I think he'll probably end up going. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.120 Mason Miller has been the guy that's been floating around 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.040 a bunch here, and I'm still skeptical that he's going 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.839 to be moved. It seems like I'm in a minority 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.920 compared to the rest of the national media on that, 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.720 so I'll see exactly how that plays out for me. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.839 But that being said, though, I maybe a team ends 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.960 up having a need for Fairbanks and there's so or 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.720 having a need for a high leverage guy and there's 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.839 so limited options that they end up trying to get 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.360 him from Miami. But my guess is he stays put 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.000 possible that maybe they can end up trying to add 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.720 somebody externally, maybe a low cost guy. I don't necessarily 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.200 have a name off the top of my head, but 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.560 I think that could be something that they consider, and 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.520 I mean, shoot, they still have some talented guys back there, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.080 but they need him, need him to perform in order 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.920 to actually get back into the serious postseason consideration. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.760 Here, how much do like, especially for a lady, any guy, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.920 how much do the numbers in safe situations and non 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.880 safe situations matter to teams. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:55.280 That are looking for this? 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.360 Because I gotta go back and look, but I want 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.720 to say that most of his you know, bad outings 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.600 have been in non safe situations. I think up till 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.720 this he's only blown four or three three saves, three 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.280 saves so far up until this point, So he's been 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.520 successful in that area. It's just non safe situations he's 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.640 been really bad, which is he's trying to fight those numbers. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.959 So how much do teams take count account for that 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.320 those type of splits? 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.320 Yeah, I think that's definitely a legitimate thing here for sure. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.640 And like, do you keep him predominantly in that ninth 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.360 inning role? Like I think if the numbers back that up, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.400 like like you're saying there, I think you absolutely have 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.720 to consider that. But do you add somebody who is 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.600 or you do add more depth where you can actually 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.000 keep Fairbanks into the ninth inning, Like it's definitely something 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.199 that teams just keep an eye on here for sure. 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.559 So I think that's one of the many things that 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.920 they got to consider. I wouldn't put like the bullpen 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.720 as like the top priority there, but I do think 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.720 that's it's definitely something they should be considering here for sure. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.280 Todd Father, are you hitting some games this summer? What's 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:53.640 the deal? 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:55.200 Of course? 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.080 And it's real simple, Scotty Braun. 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It's 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.320 just there's no word to put fair Banks because who's 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.240 going to replace him? The ninth in you have Michael Peterson, 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.199 But has he really ever done this at the highest level. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.880 I'm not sure, but I guess depending on where you 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.200 see these standings going for. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.200 You look at the National Wildcard and this is gonna 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.559 be a lot of fun going down the stretch. Cardinals, Marlins, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.600 Pirates all tied for that final wildcard spot that Marlins 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.599 have all of a sudden dropped the four games behind Philadelphia, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:21.720 which is just irksome. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.199 Yeah, the National is just. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.439 One game behind, and assuming the Padres. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.640 Go on and sell, basically it seems like four teams 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.960 five teams for one spot. What do you what do 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.600 you predict this ends up looking like the playoff picture of. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.360 The National League. Oh, that's a great question here. I 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.920 still think the Cubs end up making it. I think 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.400 Philadelphia makes it. Can I go with an odd ball one? 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.040 I'm going with the Pirates to make it here too. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.640 Oh no, yeah, which I know I'm on of Marlins podcast. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.840 People are gonna be eat me alive for But like 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.480 I'm in the Pittsburgh Pirates trade. Man, Like they they 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.959 have had such a like a like a nice turnarund there. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.720 They got these young pieces there, they have such a 0:12:58.720 --> 0:12:59.440 strong core. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.040 Expect them to add. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.520 I don't know if they're gonna go out and make 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.960 like a big splashy move by any means, but you 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.760 add controllable pieces to that team where they can compete 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.560 this year and they'll also going forward. I think Ben 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.559 Cherrington's done a really nice job turning around. I know 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.280 he's gotten a bunch of flak, but I also think 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.480 he deserves some credit here. That being said, though, I'm 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.680 not discounting the Miami Marlins, and I'm not just saying 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.720 that to try to save face here, but like they're 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.240 obviously going through a tough stretch, but they've had such 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.959 a strong season. You add maybe someone to third base, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.960 maybe another pitcher as well, then I think we could 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.880 be cooking with gas here. So you know what, Like, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.640 I think the Marlins absolutely have a chance here. I 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.040 get it's been bad, but they shouldn't deter them from 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.160 going on buying and I am absolutely adamant about that. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.240 I guess on the flip side there, Robert, what would 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:47.720 it take for them to sell? What would it take 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.800 for the Marlins to just say, hey, you know, they 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.240 continue to play that they're on this losing streak. They 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.880 have a tough schedule coming up with the Padres, Phillies, 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.840 Matt's Braves, a lot of Division opponents just at this. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.720 What would it take for them to say, hey, maybe 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.440 either we stand pat or we are gonna have to 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.040 move off of a couple pieces. So just look forward 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:07.960 to twenty twenty seven. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.040 Five in a row, more, five more in a row. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.040 I was gonna say, do the exact opposite of what 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.720 the Red Sox are doing and just lose out because 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.679 it's I just I can't see him going out and 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.880 doing it. And obviously teams around the league would probably 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.600 love that because if the Marlins just lost until the deadline, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.040 they would probably mean that the chances of a Sandy 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.520 El Contra trader probably going up. But I still can't 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.240 see Sandy going anywhere. I'd be really surprised if they're 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:32.920 in a position to go out and sell. Like, I get, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:37.040 the schedules tough, but it's not like the Potters are 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.000 like unbeatable. I mean, they're behind the Marlins in the 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.480 wild card standings. Here, Philadelphia is going to be tough 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.160 and they're going to be very aggressive on the market. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.840 I would expect Dave Dombroski and Preston Manningley to make 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.320 multiple moves there to address that team, so they'll only 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.800 get better. But I just again, I cannot see the 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.000 Marlins be in a position to sell, and I personally 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.480 don't hope that happens because Marlins fans deserve a team 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:00.840 that's actually going on and contending. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.480 Speaking of the podcast, I'm curious to get your thoughts 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.040 on the whole Mason Miller situation because obviously I don't 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.720 think that Miami is going to be a candidate to 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.000 land him. Unfortunately or fortunately, however, you look at acquiring 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.400 big time relievers, but what kind of prospect package is 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.880 a J. Piller going to demand in return after giving 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.680 away le would I'm just curious what your thoughts are 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.280 on what that never looks like. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.360 I would imagine he's got to be looking for something 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.240 better than he gave up last year. Yeah, or that, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.440 or like obviously the scenario that's been floating around of 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.160 attaching Xander Ballgards to that contract, and like, again, I 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.120 don't I don't see that happening. I can't see any 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:36.920 or any team being in a hurry to go out 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.320 and doing that. But okay, let's let's take a step 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.240 back here for a second, because this is something that's 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.280 been on my mind just ever since the Mace Miller. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.080 Rumors have been popping out here. A J. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:52.840 Prowler wanted Mason Miller badly. He coveted him for multiple years. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.120 He finally got and gave up the number two prospect 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.120 in baseball to go out and get him. Miller's been 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.360 phenomenal ever since they got him, and he's been the 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.720 best reliever ball and you then a year later go 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.440 out and trade him again, Like I. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:06.360 It's a smell test to me. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.400 Like AJ probably keeps his guys he'll find a way 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.760 to keep him. But that being said, though he listens 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.920 on everything. I'm not kidding you. If you could trade 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.000 like one of the four of us, he probably would. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.120 He'll listen on all of us. It's freaking crazy, but everything, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.440 he listens on everything, And if he gets an offer 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.240 that he deems like he cannot turn down, he'll trade you. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.920 But like that being said, I don't think. I don't 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.120 think Miller is likely going to be moved again. I 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.520 could be wrong. I've been surprised before, especially with probably 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.880 He's always a wild card, But I just don't see 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:36.760 this one happening here. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:38.160 Robert. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.440 I'm curious how do the CDA negotiations or the impending 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.600 lockout effect this deadline, specifically with maybe teams fearing or 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.920 you know, I guess the owners hoping that there's a 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.600 salary cap and ceiling that do teams add to the 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.400 payrolls this time around, or do you think it's just 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.280 business as usual. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.440 I think it's gonna be business as usual, But I 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.280 would also see teams really prioritizing guys for controllable and 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.400 cheap and like obviously hear that every deadline, But I 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.400 think this deadline something that's like even more in focus. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.160 So I expect there to be plenty of moves for sure. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.480 I would also expect a lot of those moves to 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.879 becoming closer to the deadline day of August third. I 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.800 would also keep this in mind here as well, as 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.320 I would expect there to be more extensions across the league, 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.520 because one thing I learned from the last CBA stuff 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.080