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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. We have an amazing show for everybody today.

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Speaker 1: When do we have Crystal? Indeed we do. It is

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Speaker 1: a gigantic week in Washington with tons of potential ramifications

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Speaker 1: not only political, but more importantly just substantively for you

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Speaker 1: and your life. But some other stories we want to

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Speaker 1: get to as well. There was a tearful display from

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Speaker 1: one Alexandria Kasia Cortes on the floor of the house.

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Speaker 1: what exactly was going on there. New revelations. This is

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Speaker 1: the first confirmed instance of a FED informant actually involved

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Speaker 1: Also some reporting there about Front of the Show Glenn

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Speaker 1: New Arizona audit ish results show that actually Biden won

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Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. We've got Dylan Radigan on. We've

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Speaker 1: been following closely, as you guys know, what's going on

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Speaker 1: excited to get him in the show to talk to him.

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Speaker 1: He was, of course, incredibly prescient about the housing crisis

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Speaker 1: But we wanted to start with just what is going

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Speaker 1: on here in Washington this gigantic week, as we've been

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Speaker 1: telling you guys, bunch of issues coming to a head.

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Speaker 1: You've got a government shutdown looming end of this week.

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Speaker 1: You've got debt ceiling set to be breached middle of

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Speaker 1: next month, so in just a couple of weeks here,

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Speaker 1: and of course the big things that we're focused on.

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Speaker 1: You have these two pillars of the Biden agenda, the

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Speaker 1: Infrastructure Package, Bipartisan Infrastructure Package and the Reconciliation Bill. Now

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Speaker 1: today originally had been the deadline. Remember there was this

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Speaker 1: agreement with the corporate Democrats that Okay, we promise we're

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Speaker 1: going to have a vote on this infrastructure bill on

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Speaker 1: Monday September twenty seventh. Well, guess what is Monday September

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh. However, it looks like they were going to

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Speaker 1: Let's throw Jake Sherman's tweet up on the screen here

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Speaker 1: to sort of set the stage. Pelosi makes it official

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Speaker 1: she wants funding, infrastructure, and reconciliation all passed in this week.

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Speaker 1: That reconciliation package is the three point five trillion or

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Speaker 1: We also had some sound from her talking about, all right,

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Speaker 1: so progressives are saying they're not going to vote for

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what she said. That's the

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Speaker 1: we thank him for his leadership and his courage putting

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Speaker 1: forth such a bold package. In order to move forward,

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Speaker 1: we have to build consensus. It's not winners losers, it's

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Speaker 1: That was announced yesterday evening, relatively late before that happened, actually,

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Speaker 1: without reconciliation. That is sufficient to kill that bill. That

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Speaker 1: Gottheimer and the corporatis getting squishy on all of this.

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Speaker 1: But it's still I'm just not sure that it'll all

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Speaker 1: there are not enough public votes. Maybe she knows something

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been calling, he hasn't really kind of hasn't

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Speaker 1: it's over. But in terms of passing any more large legislation,

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Speaker 1: this is it bipartisan infraspecture bill plus the Reconciliation Bill

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Speaker 1: there are not the votes, especially because we know that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kirsten Cinema had gone out and she's apparently

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Speaker 1: been privately telling people that she will not raise that

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Speaker 1: Biden piece says that the reconciliation bill itself will all

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Speaker 1: reports too Cinema and Mansion are actually now whipping or

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Speaker 1: I don't want reconciliation till twenty twenty two. Cinema is

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Speaker 1: which does seem extraordinarily unlikely, I don't want to. I

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Speaker 1: towards Hillary Clinton. He hasn't been doing a lot of that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: for the human beings that are impacted by these decisions.

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Speaker 1: I wept at an institution choosing a path of maximum

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Speaker 1: volatility and minimum consideration for its own political convenience. And

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Speaker 1: just so you know, I'm not putting spin on the

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Speaker 1: ball here, Washington Posts, in their write up of this lengthy,

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Speaker 1: nonsensical statement, says she was not explicit about the reasons

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Speaker 1: for the change of heart, but hinted at a lack

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Speaker 1: of time for substantive community consultation, as well as quote

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Speaker 1: hateful targeting and the creation of an atmospheric quote tinderbox

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Speaker 1: of vitriol, whatever that means. Welcome to Washington. Going to

437
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Speaker 1: say it. I think she's got some problems. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what's going on. I honestly I feel bad for her.

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Speaker 1: It's clearly you know, it's hard to be under the

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Speaker 1: media spotlight. Et cetera also signed up for it. Look

441
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Speaker 1: she's been targeted. Yeah, no doubt about it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: grow up, you work in DC, you're a famous person

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Speaker 1: and you work. You wanted the job, Yeah, exactly wanted

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Speaker 1: the job. This is what it looks like. You know, consideration,

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Speaker 1: You need more time to consider it. Like you said,

446
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Speaker 1: she has made her position on Israel very clear. So

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Speaker 1: if you believe that, then vote accordingly. Why do you

448
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Speaker 1: need more time to consider? Like you said, If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna use language like that, then act like it, or

450
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Speaker 1: just be honest that you're afraid of being redistricted and

451
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Speaker 1: that you're worried that they're going to try and put

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Speaker 1: more Jewish people in your district, right, or that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna try and squeeze you. And here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: would have respected her more if she just voted for

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Speaker 1: it and had come out and been like, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid they're going to redistrict me. I gotta play ball.

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Speaker 1: It's like they Why are you crying just from a

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Speaker 1: tactical perspective. If that's your concern, you already called Israel

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Speaker 1: and apartheid. Yeah, right, like that ship has sailed. Okay,

460
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Speaker 1: the ship has sailed, and so if you actually believe that, again,

461
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Speaker 1: this is a very easy vote. And even if you

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Speaker 1: don't think Israel's apartheid state, what why should our taxpayer

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Speaker 1: dollars be going as wealthy nation? I mean, it just

464
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Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. Now we know that, you

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Speaker 1: know the UH this is a very powerful interest group

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Speaker 1: in Washington, and it's been very very effective at keeping

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Speaker 1: both Democrats and Republicans in line. This is the first time,

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Speaker 1: this last these last attacks on Gaza and the fighting

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Speaker 1: back and forth, the first time you really saw major

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Speaker 1: cracks in this coalition that has the Israelis extraordinarily freaked out,

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Speaker 1: which is why they put so much pressure on Senny

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Speaker 1: Hoyer to bring this to the floor, to get everybody

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Speaker 1: on the record to have this vote count ultimately. But again, listen,

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Speaker 1: if you're worried about you know, people who care a

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Speaker 1: lot about Israel being upset with you, like, honey, that

476
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Speaker 1: ship has sailed. That is long over. So just actually

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Speaker 1: take the right vote here and do the job that

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. People didn't send you to Washington

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Speaker 1: to be one of these who you know is worried

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Speaker 1: about the redistricting and Pelosi put pressure on me and whatever.

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Speaker 1: They sent you there to be a moral voice even

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Speaker 1: when is tough, and that's the job you've said that

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Speaker 1: you ultimately wanted. So there's really there's really no defense here.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, look, I do kind of feel

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Speaker 1: bad for her because she just it seems like she's struggling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just on a personal level. She's not holding

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Speaker 1: it together. And I know that she has been subjected

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Speaker 1: to insane derangement and attacks and for ridiculous things and

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Speaker 1: all of that. But ultimately, that is the role that

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Speaker 1: you've signed up for. That is the role that you've

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Speaker 1: stepped into. And so my karen concern for your feelings

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Speaker 1: is a lot less than my Karen concern for what

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Speaker 1: is actually right and moral in this instance. And this

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Speaker 1: ain't it, look, and that's you don't want to be harsh,

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Speaker 1: and that's what she's Oh men, safety all of that. Look,

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Speaker 1: you are beclowning yourself on the world stage. There is

497
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Speaker 1: just no other way to describe it. I mean, caught

498
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Speaker 1: these tears and just making it once again all about

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Speaker 1: her and then putting out this like diversity and inclusion

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Speaker 1: Babbel speak which nobody understands. Just be honest about what's

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Speaker 1: happening here. And as you said, you already supported BDS.

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Speaker 1: It's over. Like you you called Israeli para say, it's

503
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Speaker 1: lean into it. Yeah, either lean into it or you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, or recan't. But you can't have it

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Speaker 1: both ways. Yeah, and whenever you try to, you just

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Speaker 1: look so phony and in the vote changing it to present. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Glenn pointed, I know you're talking about Tulsa and the radar,

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Speaker 1: but you know, Glenn pointed out that whenever Tulsi voted

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Speaker 1: present on that impeachment vote, that she savaged her and

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Speaker 1: called it an act of cowardice or whatever. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you said to those who think it was an

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Speaker 1: act of cowardice, I understand. Yeah, well understand too. Here

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Speaker 1: you go, here you go. So, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: the other thing I was thinking back to as I

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Speaker 1: was watching all of this unfold is remember when she

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Speaker 1: was at like a local forum on Israel and she

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Speaker 1: was asked just the most basic question about Israel Palestine

518
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Speaker 1: and she didn't know anything and the answer it was

519
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Speaker 1: like four minutes of nothing. It was like, well, the

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Speaker 1: real question is the why and the process, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: you forget just complete word salad for like four minutes long.

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Speaker 1: And reading this statement, I also had some real questions

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Speaker 1: about what is your staff doing letting you send this out?

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Speaker 1: Because it wasn't just it wasn't just unfulfilling in terms

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Speaker 1: of giving an actual rationale and explaining your thinking. It

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Speaker 1: was also just extraordinarily poorly written and not grammatically sound.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, who, like, who on your staff said

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Speaker 1: that this was okay to go out and sanctioned this?

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Speaker 1: Because when she first came to Congress, I remember a

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Speaker 1: number of instances where her thing was kind of like

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Speaker 1: she'd come into these hearing super prepared. Yeah that's true,

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00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: really done effective research, had some extraordinarily important and tough

533
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: questions for whoever it was that they were questioning. So

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Speaker 1: I was kind of impressed with her staffing at this

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Speaker 1: point that you know, reading this right up, but was like,

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Speaker 1: this is some This is like what a senior in

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Speaker 1: high school might put out and get a see on.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think there's something going on behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. I don't think all is right there. So hey,

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Speaker 1: show notes. Speaking of the Capitol, we've been sticking to

547
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Speaker 1: the Capital a lot of stuff. We have to go

548
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Speaker 1: and remember January sixth, very interesting and important New York

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Speaker 1: Times story out over the weekend, And let's put this

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Speaker 1: up there on the screen, which is that among those

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Speaker 1: who marched into the Capitol on January sixth was an

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Speaker 1: FBI informant. So the Times actually lays it out almost

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Speaker 1: like a narrative. As scores of proud boys made their ways,

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Speaker 1: chanting and shouting towards the Capital, one member of the

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Speaker 1: group was busy texting a real time account of the march.

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Speaker 1: Now the recipient was his FBI handler. So get this.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of all of that, what they can

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Speaker 1: see this is, according to quote confidential records obtained by

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. I'm still interested in that one.

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Speaker 1: In the informance version of events, the Proud Boys were

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Speaker 1: largely following the mob, which were consumed by the herd mentality,

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Speaker 1: rather than carrying out any type of pre planned attack.

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Speaker 1: So what's interesting here is that the informants themselves you

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Speaker 1: can see, is that the were inside of the Capitol

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Speaker 1: and real time texting too their actual FBI handlers about

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Speaker 1: what was happening. And now the documents themselves actually show

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Speaker 1: so that, at least according to the FBI informants, they

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Speaker 1: were telling them like, oh, we're just going like it

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Speaker 1: wasn't planned. Look, it all could be planted by the

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Speaker 1: defense team or some sympathetic person inside of the FBI.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that's not in dispute here, and

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Speaker 1: the FBI has not denied any of this, is that

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Speaker 1: there were people who were inside of the Capitol who

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Speaker 1: themselves had connections with the FBI. Now this is very

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Speaker 1: important because it fits a pattern which we have observed

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Speaker 1: now time and time again in many of these domestic

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Speaker 1: far right extremism cases quote unquote, and in many Islamic

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Speaker 1: extremism cases during the War on Terror, which is that

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Speaker 1: you have the FBI intimately involved with many of the

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Speaker 1: plotters of you know, on the domestic extremism side, on

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Speaker 1: the Islamic extremism side. And when you begin the full

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Speaker 1: facts of the case come out, you're getting pretty close

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Speaker 1: to the line of entrapment, if not full full line

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Speaker 1: across it, as in, this person will like tweet something,

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Speaker 1: they will contact you, encourage you to carry out a plot.

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Speaker 1: Then the moment you give you the money, they arrest you,

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Speaker 1: send you to the dude can give you the guns

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean that Gretchen Whitmer plot, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what was it? There were more FEDS involved in the

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Speaker 1: plot than actual defendants in the case. And then one

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Speaker 1: of the FEDS apparently as a wife beater and just

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Speaker 1: had to resign. So that's kind of an interesting Lilis side.

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Speaker 1: The question again is how many FBI informants handlers were

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Speaker 1: actually inside of January sixth. Here's the other thing we

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Speaker 1: still don't have a definitive answer. Were there any actual

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Speaker 1: undercover cops inside of the Capitol. We know there were some.

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Speaker 1: We already know that there were some at the demonstration themselves.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that a lot of that information

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Speaker 1: is being kept very very very under wraps because they

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Speaker 1: don't want it. They don't want people to understand just

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Speaker 1: how intimately they were involved in a lot of this.

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Speaker 1: And then also this all begs the question of if

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Speaker 1: you had all these feds there and inside of these groups,

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Speaker 1: then why was there nobody at the cap right? What

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00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: the hell happened right at the stop? It is so

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Speaker 1: not only did you, you know, pretty much you brush

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Speaker 1: ride up against the civil liberties line, if not full

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Speaker 1: blown past it, you also completely failed at your job, right.

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Speaker 1: It seems to be a very common theme and that

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Speaker 1: piece like I feel like liberals should have a lot

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Speaker 1: of interest in yes, you know, I feel like liberals

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Speaker 1: should have a lot of interest in this question of like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so if you were there and you'd infiltrated these groups,

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: then what the hell like why were we so unprepared?

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Speaker 1: Why was this allowed to ultimately happen? That seems like

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Speaker 1: a really important line of inquiry that I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of curiosity from liberals about. But yet, the

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Speaker 1: other thing I keep thinking here is like, what the

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Speaker 1: hell is going on with the Proud Boys? Because we

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Speaker 1: know that they're leader that Enrique Tario, dude, He was

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Speaker 1: described by Reuters as a prolific informer for law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: both federal and local law enforcement, repeatedly working undercover for

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Speaker 1: investigators after he was arrested twenty twelve, according to a

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Speaker 1: former prosecutor and transcriptive of twenty fourteen federal corporate seeding. So, anyway,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Feds infiltrating Proud Boys. Apparently two confirmed. Anyway, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then there was another thing, says the FBI also

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Speaker 1: had an additional informant with ties to another Proud Boys chapter,

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Speaker 1: So an independent Proud Voice chapter that took part in

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Speaker 1: the sacking of the capitol, according to a person familiar

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Speaker 1: with the matter, and the Times is pointing to this

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Speaker 1: being like raising questions about the quality of the informants

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Speaker 1: and what sorts of questions were being asked by the handlers,

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Speaker 1: given the fact that the miserable failure of the security

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Speaker 1: situation on the day of the capitol itself, There's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on here. As you said, mister Tario himself,

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Speaker 1: he was not actually at the capitol on January sixth

637
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Speaker 1: because he was ordered by a local judge to stay away,

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00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: something about a gun charge or something like that. But look,

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Speaker 1: you put all this together, it is very clear that

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Speaker 1: the FBI had all sorts of connections and or with

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Speaker 1: the actual groups that were involved in some cases, both

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Speaker 1: either in storming the capital or you know, organizing some

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Speaker 1: of what was going on around that that eventually evolved

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Speaker 1: into a melee. And you actually sent us this story

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Speaker 1: this morning, so we didn't have time to create an element.

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Speaker 1: But you guys might remember we covered a story on

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Speaker 1: Rising about that Postal Service Unit which was monitoring quote,

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Speaker 1: you know, extremism, And the reason why that was really

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Speaker 1: important is the Postal service and mail fraud is a

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Speaker 1: time honor charge of the federal government, as in, they

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Speaker 1: can almost hit you with mail fraud for anything if

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Speaker 1: you do. You know, it's very easy to violate. That

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Speaker 1: same with wirefraud in terms of like if you pay somebody,

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Speaker 1: it's a really easy way to make a charge stick. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we are learning that the Covert Postal Service Unit

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Speaker 1: actually probed January sixth social media, So nobody really knows

657
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Speaker 1: anything about the USPS Internet covert operations per that is

658
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Speaker 1: literally their name. You could not come up with a

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Speaker 1: better one. They sent bulletins to law enforcement agencies across

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Speaker 1: the country on how to view social media posts which

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Speaker 1: had been deleted. It describes its scrutiny on the fringe

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Speaker 1: social media networks where some people who are involved with

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Speaker 1: January sixth. So you are again seeing the expansion of

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Speaker 1: the national security state justified by what happened on January sixth.

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Speaker 1: We are learning the national security state itself was involved,

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Speaker 1: at least in some form on what happened that day.

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Speaker 1: There remain many unnamed co conspirators in a lot of

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Speaker 1: these indictments months and months and months later. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's September, like it's been nine months and this whole

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Speaker 1: thing has happened. And I believe, and I think we

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Speaker 1: both hold this. The more that comes out in open court,

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Speaker 1: if they try to prosecute these folks, we're going to

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Speaker 1: learn even more about how many more FBI people were

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Speaker 1: involved in this. I just want to send me a

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Speaker 1: list of the federal agencies that aren't spying on us?

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Speaker 1: Can we just get that? At this point, weah the

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Speaker 1: Capitol Police. I'll never forget that one because that scares

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Speaker 1: me because they're not subject to foil right, which means

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Speaker 1: they literally they can do whatever they can do, whatever

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Speaker 1: they want. I mean this is this is wild. Betsy

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Speaker 1: Woodriff did the reporting here, Betsy woodros Swan for Politico.

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Speaker 1: She says, quite understatedly, I COP. That's their acronym. I

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Speaker 1: CoP's involvement raises questions about how broad the mandate of

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Speaker 1: Postal Services Policing arm has grown from its state admission

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Speaker 1: of keeping mail deliverers safe. Indeed, it does raise a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about exactly yes, and they also point

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Speaker 1: to tweets from like check Intelligence or whatever. The It's

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Speaker 1: almost comical the level of surveillance that is justified here

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Speaker 1: by January sixth, the freak out that was spawned by it,

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Speaker 1: and then the intelligence and the entire federal government approach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I did that whole thing. General Miley thinking

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Speaker 1: he apparently is you know, the king of the country

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Speaker 1: and can call China and say, hey, don't worry what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to attack you and like, you know, try

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Speaker 1: and mess with the nuclear code reporting system. They basically

696
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Speaker 1: took it as a life since to do what they

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Speaker 1: always wanted to do, and they have the establishment support.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. And here's the other thing that I

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Speaker 1: would say that we've said before, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: a really important underscore is if you're going to have

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Speaker 1: a real January sixth Commission explore questions like this one, Yes,

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Speaker 1: what agencies were involved? Who had heads up? Noticed? Like

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Speaker 1: what were those like the nine to eleven Commission, which

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Speaker 1: you know didn't exactly come to me, it didn't go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was another one that was you know, put up

706
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Speaker 1: and designed, failed anyway, and hold no one accountable, no one.

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Speaker 1: But if you were going to have a real look

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Speaker 1: into like number one, how do we end up as

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Speaker 1: a country in this place, which implicates both Republicans, Democrats

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Speaker 1: in Wall Street and lots of other people, and number

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Speaker 1: two tell me more about these agencies and the way

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Speaker 1: that they were surveilling us and the knowledge that they

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Speaker 1: had in advance, and you know what their roles were

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Speaker 1: in these various organizations. I would be one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: behind an actual objective look into those incredibly important, really

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Speaker 1: essential questions. But of course, instead you're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: polar opposite. What you're already seeing is that the January

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Speaker 1: sixth Commission is being used to justify an expansion of

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Speaker 1: these infringements on CIPH liberties, to justify a use and

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Speaker 1: application of war on terror, tactics which were abhorrent to

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Speaker 1: an even broader swath of the population. And that's why

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Speaker 1: we both are extraordinarily uncomfortable. I'll just say with the

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Speaker 1: direction that that all is going in absolutely, and let's

724
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Speaker 1: stay on that feet. Let's say on the deep state topic.

725
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Speaker 1: Because this is astonishing. Let's go ahead and throw this

726
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Speaker 1: tear sheet up on the screen. This is from Yahoo News.

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Speaker 1: So the CIA, under Trump and led by Mike Pompeo,

728
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Speaker 1: apparently we're floating plans to kidnap or even assassinate Julian Assange.

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Speaker 1: Let me just read you the leading paragraphs here they

730
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Speaker 1: say in twenty seven, as Julie Dessange began his fifth

731
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Speaker 1: year hold up in Ecuador's embassy in London, the CIA

732
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Speaker 1: plotted to kidnap the Wiki League's founder, spurring heated demand

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Speaker 1: among Trump administration officials over the legality and practicality of

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Speaker 1: such an operation. Some senior officials inside the CIA and

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration even discussed killing Assange, going so far

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Speaker 1: as to request sketches or options for how to assassinate him.

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Speaker 1: Discussions over kidnapping or killing Assage occurred quote at the

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Speaker 1: highest levels of the Trump administration said a former senior

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Speaker 1: counter intelligence official. There seemed to be no boundaries. I

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Speaker 1: want you just to think for a moment about how

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Speaker 1: completely insane this is. Number one, Why are they so

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Speaker 1: angry at Assange because he exposed their secrets and they

743
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: wanted revenge. I mean this was like, this was personal.

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Speaker 1: If you read this a lengthy piece, if you read

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Speaker 1: through it, you come to realize, I mean, this wasn't

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Speaker 1: about any con earn about oh, our people might be

747
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Speaker 1: put at risk or any of that, total total bullshit.

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Speaker 1: The spin that they try to tell you about how

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Speaker 1: American service members or whatever put a risk. No, they

750
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Speaker 1: were furious. It was personal and they wanted revenge. So

751
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Speaker 1: think about what they're contemplating here. They were actively floating

752
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Speaker 1: and considering scenarios that involved like gunfights on London streets

753
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Speaker 1: to take this guy out, either to kidnap him through

754
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Speaker 1: rendition or to actually murder him. The level of insanity,

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Speaker 1: psychopathic behavior, the level of arrogance to think you could

756
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Speaker 1: just craft something like this and execute it is mind blowing,

757
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Speaker 1: and it shows you the way that these people operate.

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Speaker 1: There is nothing, nothing that is out of bounds here. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's even more troubling too, is about all of what

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Speaker 1: it ended up justifying. It's a lot like January sixth,

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Speaker 1: what we just talked about, yeah, which is that among

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Speaker 1: the journalists that US officials wanted to designate as quote

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Speaker 1: information brokers were Glenn Greenwald, columnists at The Guardian, Laura Portier,

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Speaker 1: a documentary filmmaker. Now the reason why this is a

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Speaker 1: former official who talked to Yaho said, is WikiLeaks a

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Speaker 1: journalist organization? Are Laura Portiss and Glenn Greenwell truly journalists.

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Speaker 1: We tried to change the definition, and I preached this

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Speaker 1: to the White House and got rejected. Now this is

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Speaker 1: very important because this is actually something Glenn points to

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Speaker 1: all the time, which is that if the National Security

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Speaker 1: Division of the Justice Department can go after assigns for

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Speaker 1: what he did, which was essentially lead class help lead

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Speaker 1: classified information, many journalists could then be subject to the

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Speaker 1: same rules. Now, remember what he did there in terms

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Speaker 1: of Chelsea Manning, was he spoke to her and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: here's how you you know whatever, get the documents to me.

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Speaker 1: That's something though the journalists put on their page. They'll

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Speaker 1: be like here's my PGP key, or like here's how

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Speaker 1: to contact me by a signal whatever. That then could

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Speaker 1: be construed under the same law technically, technically as a

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Speaker 1: conviction of assannge that could come. And they exactly point

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Speaker 1: to the fact that the intelligence community were trying to

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Speaker 1: designate Glenn and other journalists not as journalists specifically so

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Speaker 1: they could go after them and subject them to the

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Speaker 1: different types of spying protocols that we would use against

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Speaker 1: an enemy. This is the problem that we have, which

787
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Speaker 1: is that once you start to go down this road,

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Speaker 1: you can begin to see how it all becomes very slippery,

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Speaker 1: and then you can have it a situation where the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, who went once again, who benefited more from

791
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Speaker 1: the from WikiLeaks, I mean in some ways like they

792
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Speaker 1: owes part of their victory at least, you know, to

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Speaker 1: some of these email leaks, which is fine by me. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the information should come out and

795
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Speaker 1: I think that's important. But you can put all of

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Speaker 1: that together, and it was very clear that this was

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Speaker 1: a slow moving truck within the CIA that the Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: by schop gave the CIA of total cart blanche. They're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: do whatever you want, and Pompeiu was very much on

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Speaker 1: board with that agenda they greenlit some very very I

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Speaker 1: mean this is almost like assassinate Cube, assassinate Castro level

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Speaker 1: of craziness. Oh yeah, I mean you look at this,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is London like what the Brits are

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Speaker 1: going to be totally chill with us assassinating somebody or

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Speaker 1: kidnapping somebody on their soil and doing a rendition to

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Speaker 1: a friendly country. We've put all this behind us in

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Speaker 1: the Bush administration for good reason in my opinion. And

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Speaker 1: you know, you go and you look at the conduct

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Speaker 1: here that at least was being contemplated. Trump put out

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Speaker 1: a statement last night, he goes, it never happened. I

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Speaker 1: actually think Assans was treated very badly. Then why why

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Speaker 1: did you like and not just did you not pardon him?

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Speaker 1: But it was you all are the ones who went

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Speaker 1: after him. They tracked the It's interesting because they track

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Speaker 1: the view of Assange throughout the Obama presidency and the

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Speaker 1: way it changed, and then throughout the Trump presidency and Obama.

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Speaker 1: Originally they were look, they had their own press freedom issues,

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Speaker 1: aggressively prosecuting leakers and all of that, and whistleblowers, but

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Speaker 1: they were worried about this distinction that you're talking about, like, well,

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Speaker 1: what makes WikiLeaks different from any other journalists accounting exactly

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Speaker 1: how can we possibly draw this line? So initially they

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Speaker 1: were actually pretty cautious. They were worried. They certainly they

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Speaker 1: didn't indict him for the entirety of the Obama administration

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Speaker 1: because they were worried about this distinction. Then once you

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Speaker 1: have the Edward Snowden revelations, well then they start to

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Speaker 1: take the gloves off. Then they start to say, listen,

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Speaker 1: any sort of basically covert activity, spying. All of that

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Speaker 1: were pretty much okay with. So they ramp up the

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Speaker 1: aggressive tactics in terms of the surveillance of Assange. Then

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Speaker 1: when Trump comes into office, it's really gloves off. They

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Speaker 1: consider first they consider all of this insanity kidnapping him.

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Speaker 1: They were obsessed with the idea that he was going

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Speaker 1: to flee to Russia, and so they were even planning like,

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Speaker 1: should we engage in gunfire on the streets with Russian

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Speaker 1: operatives if that's what I'm the streets of London Again,

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Speaker 1: like this is what they're considering, and apparently putting forward

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Speaker 1: sketches and plans as to how you could actually murder him,

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Speaker 1: Considering things like, well, what if we ran his car

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Speaker 1: off the road would that work? What if we poisoned

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Speaker 1: him was another thing that they considered okay, total insanity.

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Speaker 1: There's also a very revealing line here where they were

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Speaker 1: like some of the people who were you know, the

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Speaker 1: wise hands and the level heads in the room were like, well,

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Speaker 1: this isn't like pak a stander age. We can't just

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Speaker 1: do whatever we want because it's London, which also is

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Speaker 1: very revealing about the way they treat you know, people

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Speaker 1: and governments and other parts of the world. But that

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Speaker 1: was apparently part of the reticence. So the compromise position

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Speaker 1: was to take this aggressive legal approach towards Assange, which

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Speaker 1: led to his indictment over what you're talking about, which

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Speaker 1: is the you know, the they alleged that he helped

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Speaker 1: Chelsea Manning hack to get these documents, something that Assange

853
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: and his family and his legal teams certainly denies. But

854
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: then they level they layer on top of that, what's

855
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: even more dangerous, this espionage charge. That's what they're trying

856
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: to get him extradited from the UK right now to

857
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: face those charges. So that was the compromise position, but

858
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: obviously not only did Trump not pardon him, but extraordinarily

859
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: aggressive and going after him. The level of surveillance. Also

860
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: we find this quote from this piece that he was

861
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: subjected to. They said there wasn't anyone within a three

862
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: block radius who wasn't intelligence. It got to the point

863
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: where every human being in a three block radius was

864
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: working for one of the intelligence services, whether they were

865
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: street sweepers or police officers or security guards. They also

866
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: infiltrated the security company that was working at the Ecuador embassy,

867
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: so they had eyes on him every moment of the day.

868
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: And again for what For the crime of journalism, For

869
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: the crime of exposing war crimes, for the crime of

870
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: exposing the rigging that the DNC was doing. I mean, ultimately,

871
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: the thing that they were really pissed about was the

872
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: release of documents related to what they call Vault seven,

873
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: which is these sort of like CIA tactics and tools.

874
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: That was what pissed the intelligence community off apparently more

875
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: than anything else. But ultimately this was all about revenge.

876
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say here is it is insane,

877
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: It is outrageous. It is unconscionable that the Biden administration

878
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: has continued this Trump prosecution of Julian Assange. The Obama

879
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: administration had it right when they decided we cannot indict

880
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: this guy, we cannot charge this guy because we will

881
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: be criminalizing journalism. The fact that Kamala Harris and Tony

882
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: Blincoln and Joe Biden all feel free to go out

883
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: there and pretend like they care about freedom of the

884
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: press when you are trying to send Julie Assange to

885
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: prison for the crime of exposing secrets and doing journalism

886
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: is shocking. It is unacceptable, and it is something that

887
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: people need to be reminded of every single day. Yeah,

888
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: it really is hilarious. What they really mean by freedom

889
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: of the press is freedom for Jim Acosta in the

890
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: White House score like real journalists like Glenn and even

891
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: an Assange under this definition. Yeah, nothing, no, absolutely no.

892
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: They'll get so upset about a mean tweet and oh

893
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: this person was unfairly targeted or whatever, and like, look,

894
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: it's not nice when people are mean to journalists, but

895
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: does nothing compared to what Glenn has been through. And

896
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: certainly what I mean, they have destroyed this man, Yeah,

897
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: they have. They have aggressively sought to utterly destroy this man,

898
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: up to and including literally trying to murder him. Insane.

899
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: There we go. All right, let's get to the final

900
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: piece here for our daily news topics. Time to piss

901
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: some of the mag of people off. All right, So

902
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, he held a rally in Georgia over the weekend,

903
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: and as just proving once again that if there is

904
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: any who can actually sink the GOP's chances in twenty

905
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: twenty two, it's actually Trump himself. Trump was responsible for

906
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: those two Republican senators losing in a state of Georgia

907
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: in that runoff election because you encourage people not to

908
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: vote this time doing the exact same thing, saying that

909
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: he would prefer Stacy Abrams as governor of Georgia than

910
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: Brian Kemp because Kemp would not stand by him during

911
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: Stop the Steal. Let's take a listen to what he said.

912
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: When Stacy Abram says, I'm not going to concede, that's okay,

913
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: no problem. Oh, she's not going to concede. She's not

914
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: going to concede. Of course, having her, I think might

915
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: be better than having your existing governor if you want

916
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: to know other pom might very well be better. But

917
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: when she says that, no problem, When crooked Hillary Clinton says,

918
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: don't ever concede. But she conceded. Of course, I got

919
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: her at three o'clock in the morning. There was something

920
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: going on there. But she conceded. She probably regrets it.

921
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: But I never conceded because I saw what was happening

922
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: and I can't do it. I can't do it, you know,

923
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams. Not conceding doesn't make it cool whenever you

924
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: do so. And it's just amazing because you put it

925
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: all together and it's all just a race to the bottom.

926
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, remember when Eric Adams put out

927
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: some statement alleging, you know, potential election or whatever. This

928
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: is all this has all been normalized now and this

929
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: is all you know, you look, I know that, you know,

930
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: making fun of the norms and all that stuff is

931
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: something the cable news made a big deal of it

932
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: in a way they cheapened it. But this is actually

933
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: the real problem. And you put it together with that

934
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: rally came on the heels of this Arizona audit, which

935
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: was you know, I mean, they built this thing up

936
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: even though it was privately funded by these extremely sketchy contractors,

937
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: and outright stopped the steel believers here's the other thing.

938
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Stop the Steel people. Wouldn't you if you want a

939
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: real investigation, like, would you not want it to be

940
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: backed by somebody who has some credibility or whatever? Well,

941
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: even their own investigation. Let's put this up there on

942
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: the screen. Has gone ahead and found that not only

943
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: did Biden win, they're actually slightly more votes for him

944
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: in Maricopa County than there were than there were in

945
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: the original tally, yielding ninety nine additional votes for Biden

946
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty one viewer for Trump. The numbers

947
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: were close within a few hundred. So after all of that, again,

948
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: this is the Arizona Senate President. Karen Fann, the Republican

949
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: who paved the way for this audit, had said that

950
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: the overall tally matched the initial results in November, and

951
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: as usual, this is never good enough for these people.

952
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: They're pointing to some sketchy subcontractor or whatever who was

953
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: involved in this, who put out like an addendum and

954
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: they pulled to some it person. Look for all of

955
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: those who were asking me over the weekend, I went

956
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: and I read it all, and you know what, it is,

957
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: total and complete bs and it is laughable. I just

958
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: want you people to admit it only believe the election

959
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: was stolen because Trump said so. Just say it. There's

960
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: no evidence you believe in Trump. Okay, good, you know

961
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: he speaks to whatever this or that. That's fine, you

962
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: can you can continue to do so, but do not

963
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: cling to any sort of whatever is within the realm effect.

964
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Trump does not care about what the uh. And then

965
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: of course the establishment Republicans, who I cannot leave, you know,

966
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: behind here, they channel this stuff into whoa, we got

967
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: to go after mail in ballots or election oh well,

968
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: the tail election. And even on the election integrity thing,

969
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, well, you know, we got we gotta

970
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: make it so that you know, mail in ballots, which

971
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, our boomer voters actually really like. And oh

972
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that we lost the twenty twenty

973
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: election was because if enough of our boomers had voted

974
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: in by mail, then you know, we actually would have won.

975
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: It's just an amazing experience watching them be clown themselves,

976
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: like in California and here they are shooting themselves completely,

977
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, in the feet, and Trump himself is the

978
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: worst act. And it's hilarious because on the one hand,

979
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: he is the only one of them who is in

980
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: any way remotely popular enough in order to get people

981
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: to come out and vote, but he's also galvanizing on

982
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: the other side, and then comes up with these BS

983
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories in order to justify his loss and make

984
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: it so that it didn't happen, and sadly, look it

985
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: probably easily could win again. I absolutely believe that if

986
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: he ran in the twenty twenty four election. But this

987
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: stuff is dangerous. There's no other way around it. It

988
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the it doesn't matter what the audit

989
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, actually will find. They don't actually care. Let's

990
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: go and put this up from the AP. It's the

991
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: same thing in Arizona election audit ends. New ones are

992
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: beginning all across the states. I did that home monologue

993
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: on rising I think is up next time. That's right,

994
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: pointing to the fact that the audit in Arizona, where

995
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: they actually made the election machines less secure, made it

996
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: so that in future elections they're going to have to

997
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: actually actually have to worry about election security. All of

998
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: this just makes me sick because these people are fools.

999
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: They are there worst enemies, and they've convinced many well

1000
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: meaning millions of people that the election was stolen when

1001
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: it actually was an eminently winnable election. Maybe focus on

1002
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: that one. They never will it will never be good

1003
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: enough for them, and it'll never be good enough for Trump. Yeah.

1004
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean, even to call it an audit is giving

1005
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: it way moregretted. That's the point. You know, it was

1006
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: a complete cloud show run by unserious ball who are

1007
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely biased, and they they wanted a certain outcome.

1008
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: This wasn't like we're just going to neutrally go in

1009
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: and see what we find. And here's the thing is,

1010
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: as you alluded to, part of what really pisses me

1011
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: off is that you do have millions of people who

1012
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: have been fed this and believed it because they actually

1013
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: trusted Trump or they trusted these other figures who have

1014
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: been scammed out of their money in many instances millions,

1015
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: tens of millions. Yes, and we've covered the way. I mean,

1016
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Trump has been in some ways the worst abuser of that,

1017
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: raising all this money after election that was supposed to

1018
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: go to stop this deal. I was not even using

1019
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: it for that, not that I would think that that

1020
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: was really legitimate to do anyway. I mean, even asking

1021
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: people to send you money for something you know, you

1022
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: know is fake. That was another piece of reporting that

1023
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: came out recently, is like his team had explored some

1024
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: of these wild conspiracy theories and they knew that it

1025
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: was a lie, They knew it was a scam, and

1026
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: they didn't care because it was good for them politically,

1027
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: it was convenient for them, it was convenient for his

1028
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: ego to hold on to this vague leaf. Maybe I

1029
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: didn't really lose, and so they're perfectly willing to defraud

1030
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: you of your money, take your money from you, scam

1031
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: you out of it, and to destroy any semblance of

1032
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: credibility in our democracy. Not that we had a great

1033
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: like standing there to start with, but to just continue

1034
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: to unravel that, continue to pull out these threads. It's

1035
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: really disgusting, it truly is to see Trump obviously is

1036
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: very determined to make Georgia blue. Stage seems to be

1037
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: the other one. It's another one goal I will. I

1038
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: just don't understand it unless you see that even whenever

1039
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: it's about him, even if you will have you know

1040
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: that downside of you know, maybe losing Georgia the next time,

1041
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: if you do try and run for president again, it's

1042
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: still not enough. I mean, you can never look objectively

1043
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: at what happened. Trump did not come that far away

1044
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: from losing the election, from winning the election in Georgia.

1045
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: It was a couple what ten thousand something a number

1046
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: of votes easily could have done. And actually, as I've

1047
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: pointed out many times, if just the number of seniors

1048
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: who voted in the fake Republican primary of twenty twenty

1049
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: had voted by mail in the way that in the

1050
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: numbers that they did in that primary, Trump would have

1051
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: won the election. It would have won. It also shows,

1052
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: and I think you did a monologue laying this out,

1053
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: it also shows that like they're thinking, is stuck in

1054
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: another era too, because there is another clear path that

1055
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: Republicans have to win, actually winning voters over. You know,

1056
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see the signs of how this

1057
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: could work out. You can see the way that you know,

1058
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: they gained with Latinos was a smaller game, but you know,

1059
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of a gain with black voters, especially

1060
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: black men. You can see the way that they could actually,

1061
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: if they cared to deliver for people and try to

1062
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: win people over, could regain a majority of coalition instead

1063
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: of just continuing to retrench into this like, well, let's

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Speaker 1: just like control who can actually vote. Let's focus on

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Speaker 1: making sure we disenfranchise as many people as possible. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to do that, Like you could actually believe

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Speaker 1: that your message finds a majority of support and go

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Speaker 1: after those voters. That's clearly not the direction they're going in.

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Speaker 1: I'm pointing to the study the Knight Foundation one hundred

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Speaker 1: Million Americans Project focus one hundred million Americans who didn't vote.

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Speaker 1: They literally found that amongst people who don't vote, if

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Speaker 1: all of them did, it would split almost fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: And that's amongst conventional Republican convention Democrat. If it was

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Speaker 1: a Trump's style Republican, they would actually win more votes

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Speaker 1: amongst people who are non voters. You're ever going to

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Speaker 1: hear Republicans say that, right, I mean, they are the

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Speaker 1: most backwards, idiotic people. They did the same thing during

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Speaker 1: the Mitt Romney thing. Oh Romney loses their autopsy actually

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: made it so that Paul Ryan apparently was the answer.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, it's so simple. The path to GOP

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: victory is not difficult. In twenty twenty two or twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, you go on lockdowns and you run against

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: cultural leftism. It easily worked under Trump, and yet Trump

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00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: is going to make it so that his only popular

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00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: part of his message is going to be obscured by Oh,

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00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: actually the election was stolen, and then all these suburban

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00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: people aren't going to come out and vote for you.

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00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: It's the same script every single time. But I will

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: enjoy watching them become like a backwards party that eventually

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Speaker 1: just retreats to like most of the American South, and

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00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: holds like no real power whatsoever. It's hilarious. Everyone deserves

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00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: to lose bottom line. Oh yeah, that's wow. You guys

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Speaker 1: must really like listening to our voices. Well, I know

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: this is annoying. Instead of making you listen to a

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: Viagra commercial. When you're done, check out the other podcast

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Speaker 1: I do with Marshal Cosloff called The Realignment. We talk

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Speaker 1: a lot about the deeper issues that are changing realigning

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Speaker 1: in American society. You always need more Crystal and Zagur

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Speaker 1: in your daily lives. Take care, guys, that's absolutely true, Tager.

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Speaker 1: What do you look at that? Well, at this point

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00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: you might be wondering what exactly is left A show

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00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: on the lap lead hypothesis We know the National Institute

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: of Health provided funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

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Speaker 1: We know that the lab there was conducting gain of

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Speaker 1: function research. We know that the Wuhan lab began conducting

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Speaker 1: itself in a very sketchy manner in September of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and that many people began falling sick in the area

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Speaker 1: right around them and in the months after. We know

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Speaker 1: at the highest levels of government, in the early days

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Speaker 1: of the pandemic, it was acknowledged in doctor Fauci's emails

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: that the coronavirus is quote not consistent with evolutionary theory.

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Speaker 1: We know that doctor Fauci, he played a pivotal role

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Speaker 1: in funding this dangerous research, and worse, used his influence

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Speaker 1: over the last several months to cover up any time

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Speaker 1: between himself and the lab in order to protect an

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Speaker 1: entire infrastructure of scientists who profit from gain of function research.

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Speaker 1: He's gone so far to protect himself and others, He's

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Speaker 1: even perjured himself before Congress. So what exactly am I

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Speaker 1: going to talk about today? Well, there's another data point,

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Speaker 1: another revelation into just how risky are so called best

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Speaker 1: and bright as scientists were before this pandemic. New documents

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Speaker 1: show that in twenty eighteen, the nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance submitted

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Speaker 1: a fourteen million dollar grant proposal to DARPA, otherwise known

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Speaker 1: as a Defense Advanced Research and Production Agency, where some

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Speaker 1: of the most top secret projects of the United States

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Speaker 1: government are housed. The proposal specifically outlines a plan to

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Speaker 1: generate full length infectious bat coronaviruses in a lab and

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Speaker 1: then insert their genetic features which would make them more

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Speaker 1: able to infect human cells into bats. This feature is

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Speaker 1: called called a furin cleavage site. Now, I know that's

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Speaker 1: a complicated term, but consider this. The furin cleavage site

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Speaker 1: is what makes COVID nineteen particularly infectious to humans. Furthermore,

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Speaker 1: of all that we know about SARS like coronaviruses, the

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Speaker 1: coronavirus that causes pandemic is the only known SARS to

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Speaker 1: virus strain which possesses a furin cleavage site. Natural explanations

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Speaker 1: for the fur and cleavage site do not hold up

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Speaker 1: to scrutiny, as science journalist Nicholas Wade totals aal months ago.

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Speaker 1: So what do we have here? We have the Eco

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Speaker 1: Health Alliance, the group already known to be tied to

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Speaker 1: funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Lab, proposing

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Speaker 1: to DARPA the insertion of the exact infectious mechanism inside

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Speaker 1: the virus that we know today as COVID nineteen. One

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Speaker 1: year before that coronavirus likely escaped from the Wuhan lab. Furthermore,

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Speaker 1: consider the players. Those who are listed on the grand

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Speaker 1: proposal include not only doctor Peter Dazak, the head of

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Speaker 1: EcoHealth Alliance, but also doctor Shi Jeng Lie otherwise known

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Speaker 1: as quote the Batwoman, conducting research at the Wuhan Lab.

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Speaker 1: The apparent idea behind the grant was that the scientists

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Speaker 1: would create a deadly coronavirus in a lab and then

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Speaker 1: inoculate the bat population against the virus, making it less

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Speaker 1: likely to transmit to humans. Color me skeptical on that

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Speaker 1: entire plan. Luckily, it seems that DARPA thought so too.

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Speaker 1: They rejected the grant proposal, But the documents themselves prove

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Speaker 1: a variety of assertions. Number One, the exact nature of

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Speaker 1: the type of gain of function research which could have

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Speaker 1: produced the coronavirus menacing our world was outlined by players

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Speaker 1: intimately involved in the potential outbreak. As recently as one

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Speaker 1: year before the beginning of the pandemic. Number two part

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Speaker 1: of the Labak theory that many did not want to

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Speaker 1: explore is the complicity and seeming coziness that EcoHealth Alliance

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Speaker 1: has with the United States government. Remember this is DARPA

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. They work on some of the wildest

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Speaker 1: defense programs in the world. Why is EcoHealth Alliance applying

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Speaker 1: for a grant with DARPA that goes after bat populations

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Speaker 1: with a Chinese government link lab to our most secret

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Speaker 1: defense agency. Furthermore, what does inoculating bat populations have to

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Speaker 1: do with national defense? That sounds like a public health project.

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Speaker 1: These are all great questions, one that if we had

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Speaker 1: a functioning Congress we could actually get to the bottom of.

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Speaker 1: But if you look deeper, you see an even more

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Speaker 1: sinister story. Despite the horrific conduct of doctor Peter Dazac

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Speaker 1: and health EcoHealth Alliance, despite their seeming role at the

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Speaker 1: very center of the outbreak of this horrible disease, new

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Speaker 1: documents show that in July of twenty twenty one, the

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Speaker 1: Defense Threat Reduction Agency granted two hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to EcoHealth Alliance to conduct research that thwarts the

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Speaker 1: use of viruses as weapons of mass destruction. That is

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Speaker 1: only the latest of their grants. In fact, federal spending

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Speaker 1: data reveals that forty one million dollars have been granted

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Speaker 1: to Eco Health Alliance by the US government since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Dig deeper and it seems that thirty

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Speaker 1: seven of that forty one million comes from the Defense

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Speaker 1: Threat Reduction Agency, whose main job is to prevent WMD

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Speaker 1: attacks here in the United States. So let's piece it

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Speaker 1: all together. In twenty eighteen, EcoHealth Alliance, which has deep

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Speaker 1: ties to the Pentagon, offers an ambitious new grant proposal

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Speaker 1: to one of the most advanced defense agencies in the

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Speaker 1: United States to create infectious bat coronaviruses and then somehow

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Speaker 1: inoculate bat populations against the strains that are dangerous to

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Speaker 1: humans that they've already created in a lab. The way

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Speaker 1: they propose to do that happens to have the distinct

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Speaker 1: feature of the coronavirus that we know today outlined within

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Speaker 1: those documents. At the same time, they are then the

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Speaker 1: recipients of tens of millions of dollars in to gone money,

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Speaker 1: specifically for the purpose of guarding against the creation of

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Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction. You follow all that at the

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Speaker 1: same time they're proposing creating more infectious diseases, they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be guarding the United States against more infectious diseases

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Speaker 1: here at home. There's almost a poetic irony in the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Wuhan Institute of Virology itself, which was

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Speaker 1: so deeply tied to eco health alliance, very likely looks

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Speaker 1: to be the origin itself of this entire outbreak. All

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Speaker 1: of what I've outlined here today has been the result

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Speaker 1: of Freedom of Information Act requests, leaks from investigative anonymous groups,

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Speaker 1: and analysis from outside experts. We have done what we

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Speaker 1: can from the outside, but it's not enough. Only Congress

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Speaker 1: has the ability to show us what really happened at

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Speaker 1: the Wuhan lab or, at the very least, unravel and

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Speaker 1: reveal the dark web of intersecting alliances, funding, grant proposals,

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Speaker 1: and more. The problem is, I suspect we're looking at

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Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg here that if we

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Speaker 1: look further, we may uncover all all sorts of even

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Speaker 1: more dangerous proposals which actually were funded and which would

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Speaker 1: disrupt the flow of millions of dollars to groups of

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Speaker 1: scientists who say they are protecting us in our name

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Speaker 1: and they should be able to do whatever they want

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Speaker 1: and get away with it. That's the thing, Crystal. You

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Speaker 1: look at that thing, the fear and cleavage site. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what else do you need? As you're like right? One

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Speaker 1: more thing, I promise. Just wanted to make sure you

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Speaker 1: knew about my podcast with Kyle Kolinski. It's called Crystal,

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Speaker 1: Kyle and Friends, where we do long form interviews with

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Speaker 1: people like Noam Chomsky, Cornell West, and Glenn Greenwald. You

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Speaker 1: can listen on any podcast platform, or you can subscribe

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Speaker 1: over on substack to get the video a day early.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna stop bugging you now enjoy. All right, Crystal,

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Speaker 1: what do you take a look at? Well? Do you

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Speaker 1: remember this? As president, I will end this insanity because

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be this way. I will end

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Speaker 1: these wasteful regime change wars, work to end this new

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Speaker 1: Cold War through the use of diplomacy, to de escalate

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Speaker 1: these tensions, and take to trillions of dollars that we've

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Speaker 1: been wasting on these wars and on these weapons, and

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Speaker 1: redirect those resources into serving the needs of our people

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Speaker 1: right here at home, things like healthcare for all, making

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Speaker 1: sure everyone in this country has clean water to drink

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Speaker 1: and clean air to breathe, investing in education, investing in

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Speaker 1: our infrastructure. The needs are great. As your president, I

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Speaker 1: will put your interests above all else. So that, of

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Speaker 1: course was Tulsei Gabbard during her presidential campaign. There she

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Speaker 1: is clear she is morally outraged about President after president

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Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats alike, had continued the regime change wars

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Speaker 1: that had brought our servicemen and women so many others

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Speaker 1: around the world so much pain, ending our imperial adventures

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East. That wasn't Tulsi's only campaign issue,

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Speaker 1: but it was certainly the focal point. SOA's pretty notable

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Speaker 1: when she was silent as Joe Biden withdrew our troops

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Speaker 1: from Afghanistan. But you know, she is still serving the

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Speaker 1: Army reserve, so maybe she was busy. So it was

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Speaker 1: even more notable, which she did belatedly weigh in and

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Speaker 1: decided to echo the talking points of every neo khon

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Speaker 1: and military industrial complex tack well. I wanted us to

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Speaker 1: get an out of Afghanistan, but not like this. Then

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Speaker 1: it got even weirder Tucker Carlson invited Tulsi on his

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Speaker 1: program to attack Biden from the left for his drone

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Speaker 1: strike that murdered an entire Afghan family. Well, don't ever

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Speaker 1: say Tulsi never stands up to Tucker, because here she

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Speaker 1: is refusing to criticize that strike and instead defending our

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Speaker 1: use of drone strikes, which we know have murdered countless

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Speaker 1: civilians in the name of defeating what she deems is

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Speaker 1: the greatest threat to the United States, the Islamic ideology

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two wants they're talking points back. So

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Speaker 1: as long as these Islamist jihadis are waging war against us,

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Speaker 1: we have to work to defeat them militarily and ideologically

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Speaker 1: and militarily. We have two choices in how we do that.

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Speaker 1: Number One, we can continue to invade and occupy in

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Speaker 1: nation building countries around the world, just as we did

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan at great cost. Number two, we can take

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Speaker 1: a targeted approach, using air strikes, using our special forces

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Speaker 1: to go in and go after these terrorst cells. Now,

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Speaker 1: I want to be fair here, Tulsi has long supported

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Speaker 1: what she described as quote very limited use of drone

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Speaker 1: strikes when quote the military is not able to get

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Speaker 1: in without creating an unacceptable level of risk. But in

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: what world does very limited use of drone strikes include

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Speaker 1: murdering a family with US ties in the courtyard of

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Speaker 1: their home in a busy residential neighborhood. There is zero

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Speaker 1: doubt that these types of attacks have only fueled extremism

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Speaker 1: and driven ordinary Afghans into the arms of the Taliban

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Speaker 1: or worse. But there's much more, and a string of

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Speaker 1: Fox News appearances over the last week or so, Tulsi

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: has taken positions that are lacking any nuance or frankly

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: factual basis whatsoever. Perhaps her most outrageous comments have come

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Speaker 1: on the Haitian migrant crisis. Now, before or I play

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Speaker 1: some of her most recent commentary, I want you to

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Speaker 1: recall what her tone was during the presidential primary, because

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Speaker 1: while Tulsi looks she's never been super lefty on borders,

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: but her tone, her emphasis, and her actual positions do

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Speaker 1: not sound remotely like what she is saying now Here

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Speaker 1: was Tulsey back in the dem primary. Our hearts break

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Speaker 1: when we see those children at these detention facilities who've

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Speaker 1: been separated from their parents, When we see human beings

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01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: crowded into cages in abhorrent, inhumane conditions. This is about

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Speaker 1: leadership and understanding that we can and should have both

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Speaker 1: secure borders as well as humane immigration policies. We will

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Speaker 1: have to stop separating children from their parents. Make us

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Speaker 1: what it's easier for people to seek asylum in this country.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that we are securing our borders and making

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Speaker 1: it so that people are able to use our legal

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Speaker 1: immigration system by reforming those laws. If Tulsi's heart continues

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Speaker 1: to break for these human beings subjected to what she

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Speaker 1: described as imhorrent and inhumane conditions, definitely not her top

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01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: concern today, and she's certainly not looking to make it

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Speaker 1: easier for those human beings to seek asylum, as she

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01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: said right there during the Dumb primary. Her recent commentary

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Speaker 1: started off with this tweet that you can see here.

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Speaker 1: She says the Biden Harris open door policy has been

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Speaker 1: a disaster. It needs to end now. The main beneficiaries

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Speaker 1: of open borders are the gangs, cartels, and human traffickers.

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Speaker 1: The Trump policy of having people wait on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the border worked and needs to be reinstated.

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Speaker 1: The Trump policy worked, the one you described as inhumane

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Speaker 1: that worked, It worked, and that migrants were out of sight.

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Speaker 1: I guess they were still being preyed upon by gangs

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Speaker 1: and criminals and human traffickers, but they were comfortably out

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Speaker 1: of you. Did drug trafficking go down in the Trump administration?

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Speaker 1: Did the massive million plus case backlog and her immigration

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Speaker 1: courts go down? Nope and nope. Of course, well as

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Speaker 1: that tweet was seemingly designed to do, it sparked one

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Speaker 1: thousand Fox News segments where Tulci went on to say

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Speaker 1: things like this, your thoughts about what's happening in Del

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Speaker 1: Rio and how the administration is handling it. It is

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Speaker 1: an utter disaster and failure, and it's directly attributed to

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Speaker 1: the Biden Harris administration's open border policy. This is not

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Speaker 1: only a humanitarian crisis, it is a national security crisis.

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Speaker 1: And it's something I've said all along, which is that

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Speaker 1: if we do not secure our borders, then we can't

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Speaker 1: have a secure nation. Now, listen, Biden's border and immigration

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Speaker 1: policy is a lot of things, many of them bad,

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Speaker 1: but it is absurd to call it open borders. Here

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01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 1: are the facts. Biden, to my great chagrin, has continued

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Speaker 1: many of the Trump era policies. He is right now

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: engaged in a mass deportation of Haitian migrants under an

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Speaker 1: emergency pandemic provision that Kamala Harris herself once said was

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: unconstitutional and which a court has already ruled he has

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Speaker 1: to stop using. In fact, Biden has deported there are

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Speaker 1: more migrants using this potentially illegal executive order called Title

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Speaker 1: forty two than Trump ever did. Trump used it to

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: deport four hundred and forty four thousand migrants, while Biden

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Speaker 1: has used it to deport about six hundred and ninety thousand.

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Speaker 1: Those are the facts mass deportations of potentially legitimate asylum

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01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: seekers with zero du process that is literally the opposite

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: of open borders. Tulca then went on Jesse Water's show

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Speaker 1: in order to express her deep sympathy not for the

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: desperate migrants who are being sent back to a country

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01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: in full scale humanitarian crisis, but for the border patrol

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01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: agents who were caught on camera menacing and insulting those

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Speaker 1: desperate migrants. Here she is responding to waters question about

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's criticism of border patrol agents, But what he

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: essentially did was act as judge, jury and executioner. For

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: these Customs and Border Patrol agents on horseback. How can

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: they expect to have any kind of fair outcome to

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01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: an investigation when the President of the United States has

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,440
Speaker 1: already declared their guilt and that they will be punished.

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Speaker 1: And the bigger issue here that this points to, which

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01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: is one that we all need to be concerned about,

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: is that if we are no longer a country of laws,

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: if we are no longer a country where we know,

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: we will presume, we will be presumed innocent unless proven guilty,

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,919
Speaker 1: then we don't have a democracy. And that's the increasing

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: feeling that a lot of us have, is that we

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: are losing our democracy and moving closer and closer to

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: what essentially is an autocracy. An autocracy if you want

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: to concern yourself with enforcing laws, if you're in the

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: law and order thing. Now, the lawlesses here doesn't stem

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Speaker 1: from Biden's criticism of CBP agents. It's from Biden using

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Speaker 1: an order already deemed illegal to mass support refugees with

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Speaker 1: zero due process. How about that? Going back to Tulci's

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Speaker 1: earlier comments on drone strikes, one might also wonder about

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Speaker 1: the lawlessness of randomly murdering Afghan babies to try to

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01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: look tough for warmongering news media. But no, no, somehow

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Speaker 1: the lawbreaking here has to do with Biden saying that

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: the actions of border patrol agents were outrageous. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a look at this. So, all of this has caused

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Speaker 1: some to wonder whether Toulci has now gone full Dave Rubin,

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: fully abandoning a prior ideological position for a new outlook

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01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: and audience. Now, certainly, if Pulci still holds any left

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: wing views, she doesn't say a whole lot about them. Instead,

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01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: she nearly exclusively leans into her most right leaning views,

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: and at least in some areas, she's just outright changed

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: reviews to ones that are in favor with a right

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Speaker 1: wing audience, as I just demonstrated. Now, as a result,

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: she's lost a support of even some of her most

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Speaker 1: steadfast previous supporters, people like Jimmydore. Now, I would certainly

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Speaker 1: count myself among those who often defended Toulci from the

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Speaker 1: vicious attack she received from the Democratic establishment, which quite

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Speaker 1: frankly is the reason why I felt like I needed

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01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 1: to say all this. Now, some of you will undoubtedly

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: say I told you so, and you'll have some justification

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01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: for that. It's certainly possible that in my outrage at

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Speaker 1: how Tulsi was unfairly smeared, I overlook the extent of

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Speaker 1: my ideological disagreements with her. But I also think it's

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Speaker 1: clear from her prior statements and what she's saying now,

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Speaker 1: that she has shifted. She has leaned into one ideology

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: and she has leaned away from another. Now, look, I

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Speaker 1: would still defend Tulsi from those smears of being a

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Speaker 1: Russian agent or being in a sad tony all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Also not going to casually throw around the grifter label

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Speaker 1: because I have no idea what her thinking or motivations are.

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Speaker 1: She is allowed to be right wing, and I am

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01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: allowed to say I've got no interest in whatever project

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: she is engaged in today, Sager, I'm curious year of

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: view here. She seems to definitely be leaning into a

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Speaker 1: particular audience with her recent commentary. All right, guys, we

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Speaker 1: have a guest. I'm really excited to talk to. Dylan Radigan.

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Speaker 1: Been a long time someone I have admired for a

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: very long time. To me, one of the smartest and

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01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: most astute observers of our economy, of the Global Economy,

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: Financial Markets, one and only Dylan Radagan to talk to

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Speaker 1: us about what is going on in China. Dylan, we

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01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on to talk about what do

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Speaker 1: you say see happening in China right now? I tried

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: my best and Soccer tried our best to sort of

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Speaker 1: break down what's going on with Evergrand for people who

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01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: don't know. It's this giant real estate development company in China.

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01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: Of course, housing market extraordinarily important in China, something like

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01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: thirty percent of the GDP that's on the verge of

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Speaker 1: collapse right now. It's been called potentially China's Lehman Brothers moment,

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01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: questions of whether or not the Chinese Communist Party is

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01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: going to ultimately bail them out. Breakdown what you see

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: as happening there, and you know, any insights into what

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Speaker 1: sort of impact this may have both in China and

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Speaker 1: around the world. Yeah, I mean, I think that you

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: have to start anytime you're going to have our meet

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: a conversation worth having around anything like this, You think

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01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: you have to understand the motivations and of the underlying

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: dynamic at the tippy top, which is obviously the Chinese

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01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: economy is the primary economic rival to the United States economy. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: China is the primary geopolitical rival for influence in the

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Speaker 1: world outside of its own boundaries. And you know, China

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Speaker 1: has done a remarkable job of prosecuting as the primary

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Speaker 1: political or geopolitical opponent to the United States, particularly the

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Speaker 1: last fifteen or twenty years, and not the least of

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Speaker 1: which has been at the core of that has been building, right,

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: whether it's bridges, infrastructure of trains. At the apex of

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Speaker 1: which is the is their Belt and Road initiative, which

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Speaker 1: is fundamentally their economic plan to take over the earth. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a mechanism of wiring all the ports

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01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: and trade points and all these things as a way

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: to have economic control of the earth. Yet I'll be

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Speaker 1: quick and young all years that same principles that work

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Speaker 1: internally in China. We're going to move people from rural

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Speaker 1: China to urban China. And it's in anticipation of that,

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: we're going to do a few things. One, we're going

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Speaker 1: to build huge cities. That's what this company does. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're going to pre sell all those They say, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's this. There are cities in China where that have

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Speaker 1: fifteen million people that no one's ever heard of. Yes

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Speaker 1: there are. And this is the main one of the

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Speaker 1: main companies that was doing that building and was running

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01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: the financial flows wherever you investor lend money to this

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Speaker 1: real estate company. And that's why they talk what always

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01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: this lem in what is this? Because it's wired, it

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01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: was so successful, and because the poor infrastructure development, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the foreign policy Belton Road or domestic policy ever

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: grand right or as a proxy for internal construction. And

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Speaker 1: what's come up now is the same thing that comes

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Speaker 1: up always is when you have a central banking system,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the US Central Bank funding credit default swaps

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Speaker 1: for the mortgage market in the United States in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five, four or five sixty seven, or whether

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Speaker 1: it's the Chinese Central Bank putting liquidity in the markets

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01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 1: to support lending in the debt creation around a story

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01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: that everybody believes, whether it's the story of the US

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Speaker 1: housing market or in this case, the story of the

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Speaker 1: urban housing development in China. All you're seeing is the

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Speaker 1: natural consequence of that level of basically de risking when

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Speaker 1: people perceive that there's just easy money, right if you

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Speaker 1: lend money into the real estate infrastructure of the development relative.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if I came to you guys, I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: give me some money. I'll get you your own You know,

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Speaker 1: in Chinese government backed real estate, it pays one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: It pays right. And so now what's come up with

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Speaker 1: evergrand is maybe it doesn't pay. Maybe there's a miscalculation

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Speaker 1: on how much money is going to come in relative

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Speaker 1: to how much money is going to come out, because

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Speaker 1: there's the occupancy rates are at the same pricing, and

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01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: all the things that always happen whenever real estate gets

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Speaker 1: upside down or starts to break down, and it brings

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Speaker 1: up then the question which is, you know, what will China?

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Speaker 1: You know, and don't bring up a bunch of questions.

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Speaker 1: I'll stop and listen to them. Sure, I mean, Dylan,

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Speaker 1: this is really what I'm trying to point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you were very prescient in predicting the housing crisis. What

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: are the follow on effects that we could expect to

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: see here in the United States as a result of

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01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: all of this Chinese maneuvering really good for the United States.

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01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, there's a perception of China as this

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: incredibly potent and powerful and dominating economic entity, if only

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01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: because of its size and because of its if it's dictatorship,

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01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: which allows directed budgeting towards We're going to make high

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01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: speed trains. There's no debate with some democrat or whatever

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01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: like it's ridiculous. They're like, no, We're making the dream, okay.

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01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: And so there's a value proposition that is in that.

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: But with that top down, centralized, highly controlled environment also

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01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: comes a raft of fragility that is not as well perceived.

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Speaker 1: And the number one asset we have in the United

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Speaker 1: States is our flexibility. So we have the impairment of

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01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: a central government that is really not capable of organizing

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: a large directed undertaking of any kind. As we can

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01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: all see. That's also to our advantage in that we

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01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: have by far the best developed private capital markets on

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01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: the planet Earth. The United States is the center of

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01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: gravity for private capital and the more China behaves like this,

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01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: there's no threat, right And so in other words, one

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01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: China's behavior makes confirms the United States position is the

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01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: center of liquidity and capital for the world in the trillions,

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01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: and to it empowers us flexibility. In other words, as

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: long as we're a sleeve taking whatever China's dealing us out,

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01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: whether it's pharmaceutical components, whether it's medical device components, whether

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01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: it's all the supply chain issues that people like Matt

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: Stoller talk about. When China shows its fragility or its

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01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: instability politically or otherwise or economically, it's a catalyst for

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01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: more flexible, dynamic investment in the United States to adapt

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: to that, which is something that's great for the United States.

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01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: It also confirms our capital market and it exposes that

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 1: we like to talk about all of our political issues,

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01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: of which we have an abundance thereof so does China,

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01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: and that the question is not you know, we're not,

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01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: And so I think that this is evidence of that. Interesting.

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01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 1: So some as I reference, have called this potentially China's

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01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: Leman moment. How big of a deal is it actually

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: for them? And do you see those parallels to the

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01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: US housing crisis? For sure? The parallel is identical, right

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01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: in terms of understanding the imperial imagine you're in a

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01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: business school class, like what happens when the Central Bank

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: provides trillions of dollars in lending ability to a banking

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01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: apparatus that lends money to build things, right, Whether it's

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: houses in California or Aparpara towers in an unnamed city

1530
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: in China, and both situations identically. You had cheap money

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01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: from the Federal Reserve funding into the mortgage lending market,

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01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: funding into the ninja loans blah blah us housing crisis.

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01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: Same here you have the Central Bank of China funding

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01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: into the lending markets to support infinite pools of capital

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01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: that goes into the financing of this housing. And for sure,

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: it's possible there's so much risk in this as there

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01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: was with Lehman others, because they've dot whatever two hundred

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01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: other every other pension fund, everybody's invested with these guys, right,

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01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: That's what the same The Lehman was Leman, not because

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01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: of Leman because but because every other pension, every other bank,

1541
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: every other insurance let life insurance policy was all invested

1542
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: in the same economics of the mortgage market in terms

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01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 1: of those yields. And that's what's going on over there.

1544
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,440
Speaker 1: The Chinese Central Bank will have to make a determination

1545
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: when they have enough information as to how they're going

1546
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: to resolve it. They'll resolve it in a way that

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: ensures stability. I don't know, it'll be interesting maybe China

1548
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: will be more likely to identify executives and prosecute them

1549
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: and maybe even you know, incarcerat or whatever do what

1550
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: China does to people that they don't like to them,

1551
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: which the U the United States to not do. So

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: in that sense, it's it's exactly the same thing, just

1553
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: a different manifestation. I think that it's delusional to think

1554
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: that if there's a really really really really big problem

1555
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: with that, the central banks are not going to do

1556
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: something about it, anymore than Germany was not going to

1557
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: bail out Greece or the or the US was not

1558
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: going to bail out AIG. It's just a matter of that.

1559
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how big it'll ultimately be. It's sensational

1560
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: for the headlines, and it's evidence of bad math in China,

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01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: which every country has bad math. It's just a matter

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01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: of how extreme it gets and when it gets revealed,

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: and in this case, they went off to an extreme obviously. Yeah.

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01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's really the question that you know, me,

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01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: everybody has, which is that would the Chinese even allow

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01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: it to spiral as out of control? Or do you

1567
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: think that those internal kind of Chinese politics make it

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01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: so that it's difficult for them to try and I

1569
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: mean to try and do what needs to be done

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01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: if they were trying to quash it all right now,

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01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to say to China that they

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: have some unique No one did it. I mean everybody was.

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01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: Where was Hank Where was where was President Bush? Where

1574
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: was Hank Paulsen? Where's Barack Obama? Where was Angela Merkel?

1575
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: So we're going to look at the Chinese like, oh,

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01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: are you going to be a communist and bail out

1577
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: all the bangs? I mean, this is the irony of

1578
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of Europeans and Americans laughing at China because

1579
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: they bail out their banks on a real estate crisis

1580
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: would be too rich. So I would say, for sure,

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: they'll do it if they need to. It's as much

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01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: as Germany or or the United States would do it.

1583
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: But I think what we're missing is the American operaity.

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01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: China has appeared to be invincible, and their momentum has

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: been profound for at least the past twenty years. There's

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01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: a fatalistic set of research. When you look at the

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01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: race of Jo Goodman, they're like when twenty by the

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01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: twenty fifty China. You know, just it's inevitable. There's an

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01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: inevitability to China's dominance. It's just a matter of time,

1590
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: just on numbers. And I whether it's the political behavior

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01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: of the Chinese government relative to the tech companies, specifically

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01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 1: Jack Ma taking them all down, you're out. You're not

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01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 1: the big guy in China. I'm the big guy in China,

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01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: and I don't care. Imagine if the president did that

1595
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: to Bezos here or you know, Zucker that's that was

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01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: the open that's a signal to the world. So you're

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01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: telling me that the same guy who's going to demote

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01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 1: Jack Ma is not going to stabilize his real estate

1599
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: market domestically. It's preposterous. The point is American opportunity abounds

1600
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 1: right now in the opportunity to return levels of advanced

1601
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: manufacturing and components of supply chain, especially critical supply chain

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01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: on shore, using a technology in a way that would

1603
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: never the window would never exist if China was in

1604
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: purpose was humming because it's like a narcotic. It works

1605
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: so well, it's priced so well. That but because the

1606
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: ports are messed up, because the containers are expensive, because

1607
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: all the intermodal global movement of objects is a mess

1608
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: and will remain a mess for a long time now.

1609
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: And because the technology allows adaptive reality, whether it's resource efficiency,

1610
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: labor efficiency, all the things. And so I actually believe

1611
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: that this is a massive opportunity for the United States,

1612
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: both on the industrial and manufacturing side, but more importantly

1613
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: in solidifying our primacy as the most powerful capital market

1614
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: in the world. Because the risk was the capital is

1615
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: going to start to move to China. IPOs are going

1616
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: to move to shanghaia ba ba bah. Well guess what,

1617
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 1: London they did Brexit, so they're out. Hong Kong was over.

1618
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: China was your only threat. Tokyo's your friend. And if

1619
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: you don't speak Japanese, you can't do deals in Tokyo anyway,

1620
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: because they don't. They like to do Japanese language all

1621
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: the time. Now China's upside down. I think, you know,

1622
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: I think the United States needs to seize the momentum

1623
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: and go honestly and so helpful, Dylan, The last question

1624
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: I have for you is what are the costs to

1625
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: them ultimately bailing out ever Grand And I don't mean

1626
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: the financial costs. I mean they're trying to impose some

1627
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: sort they're trying to deleverage their real estate markets. They

1628
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: don't like the idea. It's like, you know, our concept

1629
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: year of communicating. Hey, guys, take on whatever risk you want,

1630
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: because ultimately we're going to backstop you and you're too

1631
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: big to fail. So talk about those sort of pressures

1632
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: that operate in the other direction. Even though I think

1633
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: that you're correct that ultimately, if it needs to be done,

1634
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: they're going to do it, that has to be. That's

1635
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: a political meeting, right, That's a political that's that's that

1636
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: is the that's the meeting with Hank, Paulson and Geidner

1637
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: and all. And your question is, as they run down

1638
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: the let list of payables we'll call it. Right, let's

1639
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: say they have one hundred hundred entities, retirees, old teachers,

1640
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: billionaire hedge funds and everybody in between. Have some take

1641
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: on whatever that yield of that whole daisy chain of

1642
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: all those pensions and bonds and real estate in the

1643
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: gajillions trillions right at evergrand And the meeting is, who

1644
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: are we not going to pay or who's going to

1645
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: get a bill? Right? And now one option is, well,

1646
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: no one gets a bill, We pay everything and then

1647
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: the question if we is, if we everything, what is

1648
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: the social consequence of that? Because there's a bunch of

1649
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: people that paid themselves hundreds of millions of dollars in

1650
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: personal income over the past five years on the promise

1651
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,959
Speaker 1: that this was going to perform, and now it's not performing.

1652
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: But they've already paid themselves, which is why this thing

1653
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: gets That's what happened on Wall Street. You they pay

1654
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: themselves on the promise of a future outcome, and then

1655
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: the future outcome never happens, but they keep the money

1656
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: that they paid themselves. That's moral hazard, right, And so

1657
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: to answer your question, Crystal, I believe that that they

1658
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: will solve it in the way that they believe is

1659
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: the most politically favorable for the government in Beijing, and

1660
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: that I think they'll try to really puncture some wealthy individuals,

1661
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 1: like there's somebody at Evergrand who already the Chinese government

1662
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: doesn't like, or the situation wouldn't exist. Do you see

1663
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like this guarantee you there's a personal

1664
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: relationship somewhere behind all of this, which what before this

1665
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: public before was being talked about on breaking points, and

1666
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: it was in the Wall Street Journal and everywhere, whether

1667
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 1: there's a you know what, I don't like what you've

1668
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: been doing, and I'm going to put you, I'm going

1669
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: to feed you to the dogs, that and that and that.

1670
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: So that was already We're already into something here, the

1671
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: fact that we're even talking about it, and so the

1672
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: resolution will be to continue to inflict pain on whoever

1673
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: that counterparty is that that obviously there's somebody that they

1674
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,839
Speaker 1: want to suffer or some group, and then they'll mitigate

1675
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: politically wherever they have to. I mean, they're much better.

1676
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the United States is sending money directly, you know,

1677
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean the government can say Chinese are not afraid

1678
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: to send checks as much as anybody. And so I

1679
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: think the answer to your question, Crystal is what is

1680
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: in the political interest of Jiji of Beijing. That's the

1681
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: only question. And obviously some one thing that's in his

1682
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: interest is the elimination of whoever this character or these

1683
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: characters that ever grand are, because he's taken them off

1684
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: the board. Samely he took jack Ma off the board,

1685
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: and he has a reason. And there's no this is

1686
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: not some out of control situation, no way. Yeah, we

1687
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: don't know that pool. Its should be running around with

1688
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: your hair on fire, like, oh, we're gonna have a

1689
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: credit crisis. What if they don't pay up, bup up,

1690
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: as if there's some out of control securities market situation.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, I don't know what the yields are

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Speaker 1: going to do. You're like, he's doing what he wants

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Speaker 1: to do, and he's showing us how he functions. First

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Speaker 1: Jack mod Now he's tabling Evergrandell, he'll take more. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you know. Putin puts people in jail, cord Co

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Speaker 1: cost He's like, you're out. The Chinese they humiliate and eliminate,

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Speaker 1: right and if they have to ever, you know, and

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Speaker 1: so every country has its own its own mechanism. My

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Speaker 1: point is this is hugely positive for the United States

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Speaker 1: and it should be taken as a positive and it

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Speaker 1: would be collaborative and positive way interesting. Dylan, thank you,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Great to do, Great to have your insight.

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Speaker 1: Greetings from heaven. All right, guys, thanks so much for watching.

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Speaker 1: We see YouTube demonetization across the board on anything that

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Speaker 1: today there? So I think the FED segment, FBI informants,

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Speaker 1: possibly Losange is also definitely up there. We rely on

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Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about that. It was

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Speaker 1: a busy show day, but we've got we've got a

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Speaker 1: As a corollary. Show schedule is a little bit different

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