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Speaker 1: My next guest is a true young rising star in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: Jacob A lotta moore, Jacob. What I was saying? Your name? Man?

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Speaker 1: What's problem? Right? Right exactly. Yeah, It's just it's so

424
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: fun to play, to play him now, I feel like

425
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't until I played the show where I feel

426
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: like I unpacked it. Uh, people on a different level.

427
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: I think, I think I've I've played some really incredible roles,

428
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: but the show has really made a stamp on the culture.

429
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: Like when I walked down the street, people don't even

430
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: call me Jacob. They called me Image called me. Yeah,

431
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: I was there. I was in Cleveland not too long ago,

432
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: out there getting some education on some stuff. And then

433
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: like I would stopped at the gas station or stop

434
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: at the restaurant, and they'd be like yo, yo yo,

435
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just when you when you know,

436
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: when you know Jacob. Let's be real now, you know

437
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: that Image character is a highly sex charge character. So

438
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure people look at you from a Ladies Pacific

439
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: there from a different angle now. Now, Yeah, it's definitely

440
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: been different. I think I even think a lot of

441
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: people just now realizing that is Jacob, which is who

442
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: is me? I'm just like, and I just realized Jacob.

443
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of these twos now, I'm just

444
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: realizing Jacob Lottimore is playing IM on the show. I've

445
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: been watching this show for two seasons. I didn't know

446
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: that was Jacob. And I was just like, I'm like,

447
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm muna be really anything, because well, you know the

448
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: thing about here's here's the interesting about our relationship. You know,

449
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: like when I've been doing my main conrontation a couple

450
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: of years and when the show came on the shy

451
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: you know they was there was totally you know, let's

452
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: get Jacob on your show. Just get him on your

453
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: show so you can interview him. And I'm glad I waited.

454
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: We just couldn't connect because talking about your character now

455
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: is a really great opportunity. Because the beginning of the

456
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: first of all this season, they brought on some great

457
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: additional cast members. My boy Luke James, Oh my god,

458
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: what he's doing in that character, Candy Burrows, Wow, she's

459
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: nailing it, nailing And then little Real you know, Zike

460
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: playing the character Zeke springing comedy, but you know how

461
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: he does it. He can play serious but actually so

462
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: funny that it comes across like a joke every time

463
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: he opened just doing and so, and that's that's what

464
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: you're saying when you when you got the chance to

465
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: play against Will Smith, you know, Angela Bassett, you bring

466
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: on all the additional talent. It causes you as a

467
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: talent to step up your game as well. Correct, Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

468
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: I think you know Eshipedia having a great cash you know,

469
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: we are can help out each other and motivate each

470
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: other to do to do better and it makes a

471
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: great show. And you know, as long as the chemistry

472
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: is amazing, um, we can always we can always make

473
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: a scene work, you know. So it's it's been, it's

474
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: been a blessing because let's at the stage where yet

475
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: with the character again brought in Lala Anthony. She's your

476
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: supposedly business partner, but we found out last night you're

477
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more than your business partner, sir. And

478
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: then you have ty'are living at the home with your

479
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: mom on the sofa, you know, sales she kind of

480
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: she han't got the license here, but she kind of

481
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: sells weed. That's the way she brings money into the household.

482
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: And so did you have these other characters that are

483
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: out there, Keisha, she was she was being hell captive,

484
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: this crazy guy in the basement of his home. You

485
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: have Ronnie out there trying to redeem himselves. But the

486
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: season opened this year which you are in tears, which

487
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: I thought wasn't at the amazing moment when I see

488
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: an actor able to deliver an emotional like that, tell

489
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: us how you you know? Because you will? That was

490
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: That was the That was the funeral moment of the

491
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: open scene of the season. How did you get the

492
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: emotionally to deliver that type of moment in the opening

493
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: the premier season of the third season premiere episode of

494
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: the third season got Um, honestly, I'm a crier anyway,

495
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm a crying to I'm gonna crying through. Yeah. Yeah,

496
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: like I cry. I'm like, yeah, it's time to cry.

497
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: I'll be back, you know. Um. I think for me,

498
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: I have just lost the cousins earlier that year, so

499
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: I was it wasn't too long ago that I was,

500
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, at the funeral, and uh, it just kind

501
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: of hit home, you know, for for me in my

502
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: personal life and just I think the energy of the funeral,

503
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: the energy of the casket, Uh, it's just it's strong,

504
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, without just being there, which alone was just uh,

505
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: I've never been a call there before, carrying the casket

506
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: to the to the to the car before. I just

507
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: I've never I've never been in that position, so uh

508
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: to feel that weight of the casket, to be that

509
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: close was just it just felt all too real, to

510
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: be honest, and uh, I just let it flow. I

511
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: let it flow. And I think you know, the directors

512
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: was like, let's just let's film, let's get it, get

513
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: it there and there in it then so and everybody

514
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: had tears. You know, a lot of changes were made.

515
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: I think that was just that was kind of sad too,

516
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: to be honest. I was just like, man, you know, um,

517
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: it's just so much, so much change, and uh it

518
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: just felt so real. But it felt like we were

519
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: all growing to at the same time. So um, that's

520
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: how I tapped in. That's just it's we played a

521
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: major role for me as far is this whole series.

522
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: When I you know the name of Mael show with

523
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: money making conversations and I always bring people on to

524
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: talk about how they run their business or how they

525
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: plan their business. And when I look at your character

526
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: in it, you know, catering. You you did the opening

527
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: catering and yeah, you know, you got everybody to bring

528
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: from different stores and they wind up ordering pizza at

529
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: the wedding, and so you make as a young startup business.

530
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: If I had to use you as an example on

531
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: my show, you make all the mistakes. Your character in

532
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: It makes all the mistakes. Is he ever gonna get

533
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: it right? Or that's revealing too much of the upcoming episodes.

534
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: You know what I always learned, just in business, ready

535
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: to failure. W're ready to failure because in the end

536
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna know, you're gonna know all the mistakes you made,

537
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna be successful. So I think that, like im

538
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: it is really human Right now, I feel like he's

539
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: like business wise, I feel like he's I feel like

540
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: that's the only area he's really grown in to be honest,

541
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Like absolutely, That's what I'm excited about it, Jacob, that

542
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: character because I'm rooting for it. But then when you

543
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: had the moment with Dom that just like come on please, right,

544
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: But I think like for that that it's like that's

545
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: a separate thing, right, I feel like maybe he hasn't

546
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: really developed into maybe you know a man, responsible man, Yeah,

547
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: responsible man in a relationship. But I feel like when

548
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: it comes to when it comes to business, I feel

549
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: like he's wrapping his head around how business goes, how

550
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: how to market, how to brand something, how to put

551
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: pieces together, how to be a leader. Um, you know,

552
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: if he doesn't know how to cook, okay, I'm gonna

553
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: find a chef and I'm gonna run a cash register.

554
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, uh, you know, oversee things. So

555
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: I think he's growing in that area. But obviously women

556
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: is just I think it's always going to be a

557
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: challenge weakness for this young brother that I will hit

558
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: in the chest and say, come on, step up, step

559
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: your game up, get it right now. Early in that conversation,

560
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: you said that it was really important that this particular

561
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: show about Chicago got it right because other shows a

562
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, black people complain that wasn't us. You know,

563
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: it's a poor portrayal. What do you feel the shot

564
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: which is on Showtime every Sunday night at n i

565
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. What are you guys doing right on that show, Jacob?

566
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: That makes me excited, I can tell you. But again,

567
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm a fan as an as an actor, as a

568
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: guy who's in the streets. People are responding to your character.

569
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: So well, what are you guys doing right about the

570
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: characterization of Chicago in this? I think just touching on

571
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: real issues, uh, you know, missing young women, um, gang activity. Um.

572
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: I think that you know, we're also just touching on

573
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: just real human beings, a real relatable situation that not

574
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: only just maybe going in Chicago, um, but like maybe

575
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: that go on the other hoods of the country, you

576
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think that it's finding

577
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: a way to relate to Chicago, but it's also finally

578
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: relate to relate to them the world, you know. And uh,

579
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: it's just the language, is right. I think the lineage

580
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: is so tapped into you know, the media here and

581
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: what's really going on in the streets. So right, Um,

582
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: you know that, and that's good to happen. A lot

583
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: of the writers are from Chicago. That's awesome. Well, I'm

584
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: telling you so, I want to take care. I want

585
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: to thank you for taking the time to come on

586
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. Let me tell you something, Jacob, I'm

587
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,560
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588
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: drop your song or you're doing anything out there, other

589
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: than the shot. Please come on the show. I will

590
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: promote it. I got a nice social media following over

591
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: a million newsletter over ninety thousand fan club members. I

592
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: just want to bring on your show, introduce you to

593
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: my fans and let them know how real you are.

594
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: And and keep winning, man, man, keep winning. Thank you.

595
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man. No, thank you, Bye bye. We'll

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Speaker 1: a serial entrepreneur. Businesses like Everybody Digital, Fine Yard, Finance

653
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655
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657
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Speaker 1: all this into him, but he's starting in the movie

658
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Speaker 1: on Netflix that comes out Netflix, the number one streamer

659
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Speaker 1: in the world called Project Power. It drops August fourteen,

660
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: that's Friday on Netflix. Here's a short synopsis on the movie.

661
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Speaker 1: And Next Soldier that's Jamie Fox. A team that's played

662
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: by Dominic Fishback and a cop collide in New Orleans

663
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: that they hunt for the source behind a dangerous new

664
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Speaker 1: pill that grants user temporary superpowers. Please, welcome to money

665
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. My friend Alan mal Donado. Hey man, you know,

666
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Come even though we

667
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: go back every time and even on my show in

668
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: a long time. You've putbody almost eighteen months since you've

669
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: been on the show. It does because I think I

670
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: think the last time brought your own it was a

671
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: premiere of Last O G I think that's the last time. Yeah,

672
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: that hasn't been almost two years. And then you did

673
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: that run on that that that that that Lebron James project.

674
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, boy, that was funny that you had on

675
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: that for that tie. So now, but every time I

676
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: put you on these shows, but with your money making conversations,

677
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: I always got to talk about your serial entrepreneurship side

678
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: because that's so important because of the fact that you

679
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: do it. You do when you're breaking out. But you know, Netflix,

680
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: I gotta Netflix. We gotta talk about this movie because

681
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: guess what, it's a great movie. It's Jamie Foxx you

682
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: involved in. Talk about what the shot in New Orleans

683
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: or was that you know, was you know the kind

684
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: of shoot some places in Vancouver. But end we shot

685
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: that and we shot that a new and all the

686
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: shot that down. Man, we have to get the assets,

687
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: we have to get the You can't thank New Orleans, man,

688
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: not if you wanted that. You want not if you

689
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be right, um, but yeah, now we shot

690
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: it down there. I play, uh the partner to Joseph

691
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: Gordon Levitt as we're police officers. Um, so I'm more

692
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: of the straight in, narrow by the book type of character,

693
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: which is vastly different from a lot of the other

694
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Speaker 1: characters earlier. You are a normal character, That's what you're

695
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: trying to say to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

696
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: straight up by the book police officer. You know, I'm

697
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: not with the with the Shenanigan, Sir, I'm treating by

698
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: the book. Um, that doesn't that doesn't say that he's

699
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: not funny, right, Uh, it's uh, it's definitely a contrast

700
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Speaker 1: to the kind of relious and uh independent thinking of

701
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Joseph's character. So you talk about I'm excited about you're

702
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: excited to do the movie. I'm excited to the movie.

703
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: So um, it's one of those films that, even if

704
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Speaker 1: I wasn't in it after seeing the trailer, I'm locked

705
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: in like you would be locked in you you tell

706
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: the truth? Locked in man. So UM shout out to

707
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Speaker 1: the director's handing an area like they they they presented

708
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: a project and executed in such a way that it's um,

709
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: it's inspiring and hearing that story and them sharing to me.

710
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Actually you know how they got from ideas to now

711
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: we're on set man, and this inspired by the story,

712
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: um of just going out and doing it. And just

713
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: to kind of segue back to the to the serial

714
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: entrepreneur um tone of the interview, like even in the

715
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: art it was a business on and how they took

716
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: the idea, developed it, put it together, package that invented

717
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: with to go sell this idea, this art form as

718
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: a product. So um, even and even as an artist,

719
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: you you must have a business sound they should in

720
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Speaker 1: order to see right right, we're talking to Alan maldon Maldonado. Uh,

721
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Speaker 1: he's just he's just one of the co stars in

722
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Speaker 1: the new Netflix. And Netflix is the number one streaming

723
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: platform in the world. When this movie comes out, it

724
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: will premiere in a hundred and nanny countries. You know,

725
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: this is what Netflix is or Netflix is changing the game,

726
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: and they changing the game, especially for African American film

727
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: projects because Juli a movie like this, just James Fox,

728
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Speaker 1: He's a global name. But generally movies like this premiere

729
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: only domestically. They opened domestically. They may get some minor

730
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: support depending on different markets, but there never be a worldwide,

731
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: that that that Netflix brings to the table and just

732
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: the impact has had. You know, Tyler Pere opened up

733
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: in January. You know, that movie was off the chain.

734
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: Then they came back with Eviction, Then they came back

735
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: with that. The Tiger King during the pandemic was off

736
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: the change, the Five Bloods Old Guard you just popped

737
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: off a few much two weeks ago. Now they're coming

738
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Speaker 1: back right now with the Power Project, the Project Powers,

739
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: the name Project Powers. And so how do you get

740
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: cast in the movie like this because first of all

741
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Speaker 1: knowing so you know, I know you gotta resume. But

742
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, well this is you know, it's interesting.

743
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: Um is that I was actually in New York. I

744
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: think I was filming uh, season two of the Last

745
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: So at the time when they called me, they do

746
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: an artist, So I just did. I put an audition

747
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: on tape, um uh in New York and reality see,

748
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: I gotta lad because you this is a normal character.

749
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: So you put this own tape that so you know

750
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Speaker 1: the normal character, but don't tape. It was simple. We did,

751
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: and we knocked it out and there we are. You know, you,

752
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: like I said, the character is still he gonna have it,

753
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: so we're gonna of course it's me, so it's gonna

754
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: be it's gonna have some humor and some community time

755
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: into what it is. But his personality is again the

756
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: opposite of a cousin Bobby, who is just wild and reckless,

757
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: and he's more about the book, which is absolutely Again.

758
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: This movie premieres August fourteenth, which is Friday or Netflix

759
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: Project Power Stars but man, Jamie Fox Oscar winner, gotta

760
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Speaker 1: throw that title when you win it, Academy Award winner

761
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: and then my girl Dominique. You saw the movie the

762
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: series on HBO called Deuces. He plays a young prostitute

763
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Speaker 1: and that there was very were received on New us Age.

764
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Speaker 1: They did a great auticle Owner and it's just a

765
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Speaker 1: really great was sit in the heart of New Orleans.

766
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: You see the super Dome and so you know you're

767
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. But the thing about it, if you're

768
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: a Superpower fan, and that's that's the take on this,

769
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, we all know about the Marvel,

770
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Speaker 1: you know all know about the d C. But there

771
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: is a pill that will give you temporary superpowers mm hmmm,

772
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: and we don't know how is it, how is coming

773
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: into the City of New Orleans. That's the whole. I

774
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: will give you no more other than the fact that

775
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: you need to sit down and at twelve on one,

776
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: that Thursday night, twelve on one, that's when they started streaming.

777
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: So you can get out and tell everybody you saw

778
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: Project Power first, because it's a more everybody. Everybody get

779
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: their midnight parties together. Now. Now I'll be remissed because

780
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: I I don't mention to you, I don't call I

781
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: would proclaim you're a serial entrepreneur just because I like

782
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: saying that you are. You've you've every time I brought

783
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: you on the show. It's a new project and you

784
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: what drives you in that entrepreneurship space there? Alan Wow,

785
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: you know what it's It's crazy, it's ever evolving, and

786
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: I think every entrepreneur needs to know that. It's it's

787
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: ever evolving as its mature as a person, as a man,

788
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: and even financially. You know, you begin to think and

789
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: reanalyze on what you want. Um. But for me, it's uh,

790
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, what drives me is a way of life.

791
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: It's a UM it's an understanding of being being poor

792
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: and knowing that I don't want to be that and

793
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: making every and then under understanding that my happiness isn't

794
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: built off materialistic things, but the way I can live

795
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: my life definitely can reflect that by eating healthier, um,

796
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: having more time to rest, being able to have certain

797
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: amenities to make life a little better. So for me,

798
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: like it used to be a number, it used to

799
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: be a dollar amount, um, where now it's more of uh,

800
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: it's again of for pure happiness in way of life. UM.

801
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: So according to how I want to live, that's the

802
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: amount of money I need to make in order to

803
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: do that. And I think that's what you think you

804
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: mentioned in in your intro as far as uh, people

805
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: measuring their own success. And I've gotten to a point

806
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: where I've been able to identify where I measure my success,

807
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: and my success is being happy. And every business that

808
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I do and everything that I work on is usually

809
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: coming from a place of love, and I've just figured

810
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: out a way to make money from it. You say that,

811
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: because that's that's my philosophy. I always told people, you know,

812
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: a simple goals, and some people they make their goals

813
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: too much. Like one of my those was like I

814
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to shop with coupons food, you know, coupons,

815
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, like that was just a goal. Now, if

816
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: I see a good coupon, I use it, But that

817
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: was just a goal that I have. Then another goal

818
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Speaker 1: was when I go in the store, if I wanted

819
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: to buy that, I would buy it. I would if

820
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: I touched it, I bought it. There was another up,

821
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Speaker 1: there was another fund that wasn't tied to I gotta

822
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: make a hundred thousand dollars, I gotta make a million dollars.

823
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: It was like a lifestyle change. And then when I

824
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: went shopping, if I wanted two pair of shoes and

825
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Speaker 1: I was putting myself in a position to buy two

826
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Speaker 1: pair of shoes, then I bought those two pair of shoes.

827
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: And that really is how this whole thing, That's what

828
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your philosophy and I my philosophy alignes because

829
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: of the fact that you can you can you can

830
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Speaker 1: overreach by saying I need to make a million dollars

831
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Speaker 1: when you could probably make a half million dollars and

832
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Speaker 1: be very happy, and reaches exactly exactly, exactly exactly. And

833
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: I think that's what people get lost, is chasing a

834
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: dollar amount rather than their personal happiness and were where

835
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: because what most people don't know. Managing managing a million dollars,

836
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Speaker 1: of managing thirty million dollars and managing three hund million

837
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Speaker 1: dollars a lot of work. It's a lot of work.

838
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Speaker 1: And you know, be careful what you wish for is

839
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: one of those type of things, right, be careful what

840
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: you wish for you. Okay, you said you want to

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Speaker 1: be a bigger there, but do you understand what it

842
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: takes in the pressure and the type of around the

843
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: clock monitoring you have to do to make sure you

844
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Speaker 1: can see to maintain that bigion dollars like like, So

845
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Speaker 1: it should never be about an amount where where if

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Speaker 1: it's built by love and you you're gonna do that consistent,

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Speaker 1: consistently and abundantly, and you're gonna want to work nine

848
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Speaker 1: times harder than it than anything else you were doing

849
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Speaker 1: just for a monetary success. So the level of success

850
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna just naturally a sin You're gonna now

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Speaker 1: actually reach your goals. You're gonna nationally probably surpassed your goals.

852
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Speaker 1: But the real success isn't the money, it's the happiness

853
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Speaker 1: that comes with being able to live that lifestyle. Okay,

854
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Speaker 1: whether what happened is is also starring in another movie.

855
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Speaker 1: That's That's Happiness to my Friend, upcoming wrestling drama on Stars.

856
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Speaker 1: You know, tell that's the television show. Yeah, it's a

857
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: television show. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's a series. Man again

858
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Speaker 1: another character that that isn't Now he's a little while

859
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Speaker 1: You're gonna do a movie about wrestling and it's not autlantist,

860
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Speaker 1: it's not it's not on Yeah. Yeah, I mean his

861
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Speaker 1: neighbors rooster so uh, I couln't. I couldn't even. I

862
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Speaker 1: couldn't even finish that ship so serious is called heels

863
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Speaker 1: h e l h e e l s Upcoming drama

864
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Speaker 1: own Stars. Tell us about that bag because you know

865
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Speaker 1: when you come, because I don't know when I'm gonna

866
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Speaker 1: get you back out. You're so busy, I'm gonna it

867
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Speaker 1: might be another two years before I get you on

868
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Speaker 1: the show. Muscles. I put on towns of muscles for

869
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Speaker 1: this show. You what I'm saying, Like, I really transformed

870
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Speaker 1: my body for this for this road. Um, he's a

871
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Speaker 1: high Instagram. I haven't seen your Instagram with your bank

872
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Speaker 1: going up. We've been going up, yes, showing that sixth pack. Listen,

873
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Speaker 1: man be going hard for this show, man, Uh, this

874
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Speaker 1: excited for a project to work on in a long time,

875
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Speaker 1: just to kind of lock in and get into the character. Um.

876
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Speaker 1: And then also it's about this independent wrestling family who

877
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Speaker 1: has uh their wrestling federation and the territory where a

878
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Speaker 1: rival federation is looking to uh basically bring them, bring

879
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Speaker 1: them to their miises and and and in there wrestling. Yeah,

880
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's gonna be. I can't even

881
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: explain how dope um just the project is as far

882
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Speaker 1: as the direction of story, just the division they have

883
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: for it. Man, I'm eager. I'm just as eager as

884
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Speaker 1: I was and I did profic power as I am

885
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Speaker 1: for this one. Well, you know the thing about it

886
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Speaker 1: Netflix as a series called Glow Gorgeous Ladies, of which

887
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Speaker 1: I love. The first two seeds have been brilliant. And

888
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Speaker 1: so I've been an elementary school I was a fan

889
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Speaker 1: of wrestling. My dad used to take me and I

890
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Speaker 1: was just watching, you know, uh watch these rats. And

891
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Speaker 1: so I've been a fan forever. When I was keeping,

892
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Speaker 1: I could just go in the elementary school and go

893
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Speaker 1: see these see you involved in the project like that,

894
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Speaker 1: I know that I'm a big fan of all knowing

895
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Speaker 1: that it's is natural and it allows you. Here's the

896
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Speaker 1: you know, we joke about you being that all these

897
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Speaker 1: outlandes characters, but man, you know that's part of your

898
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Speaker 1: skill set. Somebody got a plant and somebody gotta play

899
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Speaker 1: them well, and you're doing fantastic job and doing it.

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Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to Emmy slap

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Speaker 1: next to your name when you're doing them. That's all

902
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Speaker 1: that's come on, man, it's happening. It's happening. Man, it's happening. Man,

903
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Speaker 1: it's we didn't route. We didn't route to that, Emmy,

904
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, um damn, man, the

905
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Speaker 1: Stars is coming out. We begin shooting um next month.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so this is gonna be a pandemic shoot. Yeah,

907
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Speaker 1: it's been we we we were set to begin production.

908
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Speaker 1: We haven't shot at anything. It's gonna be This is

909
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting and ain't another for me. It's just

910
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Speaker 1: another challenge to the already challenge. They're gonna try to

911
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Speaker 1: do what you like. You know, like like like Tyler

912
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Speaker 1: Perry has set up the ultimate bubble on his right right,

913
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Speaker 1: We'll not not to that extreme. Um, but it will

914
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Speaker 1: definitely be a bubble where we'll be monitored and we'll

915
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Speaker 1: have to you know, stay safe. We gotta stay safe

916
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Speaker 1: and just be responsible for each other, you know, not

917
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Speaker 1: to you know, put ourselves in harm's way to ultimately,

918
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Speaker 1: you know, get someone sick on set and stop production. So, um,

919
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Speaker 1: they're doing doing a fantastic job with everything, with testing

920
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I definitely feel safe. Yeah,

921
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Speaker 1: Like you know, at the end of the day, I

922
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Speaker 1: feel totally safe. You know. I wanted to talk about

923
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924
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925
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Speaker 1: of you, that's part of your d n A. I

926
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Speaker 1: know that the pandemic, I'm pretty sure it has not

927
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Speaker 1: worked out like it normally works out every year profit,

928
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Speaker 1: and that's what's the future we're gonna do. It's been

929
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931
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933
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934
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935
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936
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938
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941
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942
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943
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944
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945
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946
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947
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948
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951
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952
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953
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958
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Speaker 1: they're doing seventy five this month, and then for our

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961
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962
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963
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964
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966
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971
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972
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973
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974
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Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven years old, so I can I can

975
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976
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979
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980
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981
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984
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1032
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1033
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1034
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Speaker 1: want you to feel bad when don't say that too.

1035
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Speaker 1: I want you to feel bad, okay, because you think.

1036
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1037
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1039
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Speaker 1: My next guest is a motivational speaker Extraordinary, a former

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Speaker 1: book Straight Up can be ardent in pre release. It

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Speaker 1: comes out officially August four, but you can't get it all.

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Speaker 1: You can't preorder it right now. Let's preorder everybody, because

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Speaker 1: we want to make this book number one on New

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Speaker 1: York Times best Seller. Please work on the Money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: Mr motivator himself. Trent Shelter, how are you doing, brother,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you're having me sharing your platform with me truly.

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Speaker 1: Other Well, I well, first of all, you know the

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Speaker 1: fact that your Southern boy like me. I'm from Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 1: so I was born and raise in the big state

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Speaker 1: of Texas and have traveled all over this country. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you said you're Louisiana, Arkansas with the school at Baylor

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Speaker 1: type fellow. Yes, sir, Yeah, I'm definitely uh South stating

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Speaker 1: the South from the South, still live here, so I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna Southern board for sure. Absolutely. Let's just talk about uh,

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Speaker 1: but you your book. Let's talk about your personality. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about your athleticism. You know, you played wide receiver

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Speaker 1: at the Bailor University. This is a question I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask up front. Would you say that the early

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Speaker 1: part of your life was driven by your ability to

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Speaker 1: showcase your physical talent? Would you say that absolutely? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean ever since I was bored, I had two

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Speaker 1: older brothers and so I was always trying to keep

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Speaker 1: up with them. So my my even my identity, and

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Speaker 1: my my worst everything was performance face. You know, I

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Speaker 1: always wanted to be the best athlete I could be,

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Speaker 1: whether it's best baseball, basketball, football, track. So now that's

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Speaker 1: being said. Now along the way, other people see things

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Speaker 1: in you besides that physical talent, and they see you

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Speaker 1: obviously you're a great speaker, they know you have a

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Speaker 1: u the people. You have a magnetic personality and people

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Speaker 1: see that. And now I'm sure people told you that

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Speaker 1: along the way, But of course you were following that

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Speaker 1: physical gift. Can you can you talk about the people

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Speaker 1: who were trying to tell you about the skill set

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Speaker 1: that you were not following at the time that they

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Speaker 1: felt had value in your life too deep with that question. No,

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Speaker 1: you're you're exactly right, and it's a great question because

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, my whole entire life, Um there

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Speaker 1: were seeds planet uh as my mom would say, So

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Speaker 1: calling is placed on my life, you know, throughout my

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Speaker 1: whole entire life to be you know what I do now.

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Speaker 1: But by me even today, I'm an introverted person. So

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Speaker 1: me hearing that, it was like I was deaf to

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Speaker 1: it because I was so focused on what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do. So if you weren't bringing anything to my

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Speaker 1: life about sports man, like I wasn't trying to listen

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Speaker 1: to it. And often times what we do is we're

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Speaker 1: so focused on what we want to do we become

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Speaker 1: blind to what we were created to do. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was tough, I know, because you know, I look

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Speaker 1: at my life. I was I was trying to share

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Speaker 1: my life honestly with my listeners. And sometimes my view

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Speaker 1: is that you know, when you look back, you know

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Speaker 1: you have to look back. I would tell people that

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Speaker 1: the resume that you have right now, that job resume

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Speaker 1: may not be your dream, may not be your passion.

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Speaker 1: It's just something you do to get a paycheck. And

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Speaker 1: I felt that's what was happening in the NFL. That

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Speaker 1: was something you was doing to get a paycheck. And

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Speaker 1: then one day, sitting in that office of the Washington Redskin,

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Speaker 1: you realize, you know something, this is a check that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna pay off long term for me. But you

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Speaker 1: knew that anyway because of an athlete, that's a short

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Speaker 1: window anyway, But knowing that you still pursued that that

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Speaker 1: was your your number one gift at the time. But

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Speaker 1: then in that room with the when it would announced

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Speaker 1: they were gonna let you go, a realization hit. You

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Speaker 1: tell us about that Yeah, it was just you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I went through that process probably like Nonnerton times.

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Speaker 1: So when it got to that place I had already

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Speaker 1: started working on. I felt, well, what I do now,

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Speaker 1: which is rehab something? And that vision was already placed

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Speaker 1: in my life, maybe a few months before. How was

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Speaker 1: that vision? How was that vision place? It was my

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Speaker 1: rock bottom, to be honest with you, It was me sitting,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just got cut from the Seahawks, and

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Speaker 1: it was me in my in my room at my

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Speaker 1: parents house, and I was just looking around, and my

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Speaker 1: rock bottom was like, man, like what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: in my life? And at that moment, I just said,

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Speaker 1: it's rehab time. And so for me, rehab time and

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Speaker 1: for myself, right and then putting strength into a weakness mind,

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Speaker 1: body and so and so I took responsibility to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me educate myself because I wasn't reading books. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me further my health, let me furm my further

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Speaker 1: my spirituality. And when I went on this journey, it

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Speaker 1: just I just saw the connection. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: this something feels right about this. And as I started

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Speaker 1: continuing that journey, you know, other people started to see

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Speaker 1: my change started asking questions. But that was two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine, two thousand nine, So I got cut with

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Speaker 1: the Ridskins probably that fall, and so when they said that,

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Speaker 1: I was hurt, but it was something in me. It

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, like there's something more for your life.

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Speaker 1: But still even right there you said you were hurt.

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Speaker 1: Were you heard or were you more concerned with other

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Speaker 1: people thought that you not? You're being cut? That's that's

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Speaker 1: definitely both because that was my significance. So in my mind,

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Speaker 1: it was like because my whole entire life was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is my friend training to plays for bailor or

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Speaker 1: even high school. So my whole value was in that sport.

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Speaker 1: And so I was hurting that way because I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what are people gonna think? And I knew I would

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Speaker 1: lose some people in my life that I was hurt. Also,

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Speaker 1: it's like this is my whole identity, like since I

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Speaker 1: was five years old, Like what else am I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I never worked in und five, I had no knowledge

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Speaker 1: of any of that, so like what I'm I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: So I was kind of fearful of like my life

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Speaker 1: is over because if this is the pinnacle of my life.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing more to my life, you know. So it

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Speaker 1: was hard. Well, you're the thing about now your son

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Speaker 1: was born in what year? When when was your son born?

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Speaker 1: Two thousand eight? Two thousand eight? So your son is

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Speaker 1: born two thousand and eight, which is already Let you

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Speaker 1: know that there's a responsibility now in your life. You

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Speaker 1: know when you're when you're out there sold and making

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Speaker 1: decisions by yourself or uh. But when you bring a

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Speaker 1: child into the world. I would tell people a child

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Speaker 1: and asked to come into this world. You brought that

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Speaker 1: child into the world, So a certain level of responsibility.

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Speaker 1: So now that's two thousand nine. You still you got

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Speaker 1: cut by the Seahawks. They got about to be cut

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Speaker 1: by the watching Redskins. You know the speech, you've heard it,

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Speaker 1: you know when you know the in game. But now

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Speaker 1: it has to be a different journey. Now there has

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Speaker 1: to be a different story to be told about your life.

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Speaker 1: When did you start remembering all those other great moments

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Speaker 1: of you can do this, your your your future is

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Speaker 1: not being a football player an athlete. You can be great.

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Speaker 1: When did when did when did that information started running

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Speaker 1: back into your life? It started with me stepping on

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Speaker 1: stages speaking yes, even though I wasn't ready to speak,

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Speaker 1: even though it's my biggest spirits started with me, uh,

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Speaker 1: stepping on stage is getting invited to the y m

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Speaker 1: c A Boys and Girls clubs or Turkey events. And

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Speaker 1: in those moments it made just the impact that I

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Speaker 1: saw when I looked down in the audience and how

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Speaker 1: they were just gravitating to what I was saying. It

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Speaker 1: was like, man like, Okay, everything that people were telling

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Speaker 1: me in my past, it could be true, right, And

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Speaker 1: so that possibility built confidence in my life, even in

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Speaker 1: my biggest fear, because you know, public speaking was something

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Speaker 1: that I was truly afraid of. Well we always right,

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Speaker 1: I've been blessed that you know, my I was this

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Speaker 1: stand up comic. I was stand up comedian and so

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Speaker 1: so naturally there's a wall for me to speak that

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Speaker 1: there's uh people just watch I should work for IBM.

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Speaker 1: So when I would speak, they would look at this

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Speaker 1: kind so comfortable, well with this stand up comedy. So

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Speaker 1: at night we didn't know that, so I I that

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Speaker 1: that public speaking wall was was shattered with me and

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Speaker 1: so but getting out there being honest, though there's a

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Speaker 1: difference in speaking publicly Trent and then being honest because

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Speaker 1: because because you know, you can get a prepared speech,

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Speaker 1: because see that a lot of time people do it

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Speaker 1: call a press conference and and they're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: speaking for their heart by reading everything all the piece

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Speaker 1: of paper and so and I was always always didn't

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Speaker 1: make sense to me, Okay, why if you're speaking for

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Speaker 1: your hard just speak. And now now you started speaking publicly,

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Speaker 1: when did the honestly part of the conversation, Because that's

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Speaker 1: gonna dry us into this book, because this book is

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Speaker 1: very honest. It talks about failures, it talks about why

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Speaker 1: these failures have to be acknowledged on it for you

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Speaker 1: to move forward. When did you start you started speaking

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Speaker 1: at these wives, But what point did you say, you

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Speaker 1: know something. I gotta tell them relatable stories. I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell them why it's important that you hear what I

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Speaker 1: got to say. Yeah, for sure, it was early on

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Speaker 1: to be real with you because and the reason being

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Speaker 1: is because one of my very first major ones speaking engagements,

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Speaker 1: I prepared to hold speech. I was liked and wrote

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Speaker 1: it all out and they were like kind of looked

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Speaker 1: at I got whatever stage right I forgot and it

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Speaker 1: was just like Okay, let me just go from my heart.

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Speaker 1: And I realized, like, for one, I always say, when

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Speaker 1: you're real, you're relatable. Right, It's a connection piece with

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Speaker 1: the audience because they feel like they can relate to you.

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Speaker 1: But it also it gave me freedom, right. I feel

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Speaker 1: like like even today, like when I tried to prepare

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Speaker 1: a speech, I'm like, why am I wasting my time?

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Speaker 1: Because I never go off of the notes that I

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Speaker 1: have from my speech, and so it gives me a

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Speaker 1: sense of freedom. And uh so yeah, I'm just I've

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Speaker 1: always kind of been like that since the start of

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Speaker 1: like just telling you know, real rock on the stories

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Speaker 1: from the heart about my life. Well, I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: Mr Motivator himself, That's what I called I called you know,

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Speaker 1: he got a lot of great nicknames out there, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him Mr Motivator Trent Shelton. He has

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Speaker 1: a new book that you can buy right now called

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Speaker 1: straight Up. Uh. It comes out and is released officially

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Speaker 1: August fourth. This book is a you know, is for

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Speaker 1: young adults, and I want to talk about that why

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Speaker 1: it's important that when you see younger blow too, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about enneals. Are you talking about high schoolers. Who

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Speaker 1: are we talking about when you say young adults, Trent, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think anywhere from the age of it could be

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Speaker 1: eight and twenty four, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 1: think this book is and I will say this too,

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Speaker 1: I've had adults already read it, and you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit language for kids, but I have adults

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Speaker 1: read it and taking it like they learned from it too.

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Speaker 1: But I think anywhere from the ages of where you

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Speaker 1: can read all the way to you know, early twenties

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Speaker 1: for sure. Well, you know, let's let's let's dive into

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Speaker 1: the book. The book. We're talking about this straight up.

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Speaker 1: And I went, I'm gonna start in the back because

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: it was, you know, I read a book. I kind

1264
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: of like, well, I want to start. Everybody that always

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: starts at the beginning, you know, it is that my

1266
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: post start in the middle. But it was it was

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01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: something that really affected me. I think that we needed

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: to jump out. For me, was like, in chapter twelve,

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: that's just straight up about making an impact. Okay, now,

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: what was the significance before we even get into my

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: what exactly I want from chapter twelve? What was the

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: significance of the I guess you can say title for

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01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: each chapter. Yeah, So I just kind of dug down

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01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: in my life. I asked my son some questions kids

1275
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: that are coached and just uh, you know, took that

1276
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: feedback and I was like, Okay, this is what they

1277
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: need to hear, you know. So I basically took the

1278
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: book fifty two lessons um that I would want either

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: to tell my former self because I get that question

1280
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: like what would you tell the younger you, It would

1281
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: be these fifty two things. And so that was the

1282
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: inspiration behind it. Cool. Now, in that chapter twelve, you know,

1283
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,839
Speaker 1: it says it says responsibility that means realizing your affect

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: other people. See. That was important to me when I'm

1285
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: reading your book. It goes back to the birth of

1286
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: your son two thousand and eight. It goes back to

1287
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: two thousand nine when you're sitting in the in the

1288
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: in the office of the team Washington red Skins, and

1289
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: it was letting you know that there was no space

1290
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: for you on the team, that if a spot opens up,

1291
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: you know you could you wouldn't let you know. You said,

1292
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: don't worry, you don't. I've heard this speech, polm, don't don't, don't,

1293
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: don't play kate me like that. Okay, don't play kate

1294
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: me like that. If it was a space open eyes,

1295
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting in your office, Okay, I wouldn't

1296
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: be sitting there. Okay. So the responsibility means realizing you

1297
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: affect other people. I wanted to start our interview with that, David,

1298
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: because that's what a lot of people I want. I

1299
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: won't use the word selfish, but we get so focused

1300
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: on ourselves that we got responsible to other people that

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01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: believe in us. And that could be children, that could

1302
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: be your wife, that could be your employees, that could

1303
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: be people in stind you, that could be your your

1304
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: business partners. And that statement I thought was really powerful

1305
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: and I just wanted you to comment on that, and

1306
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: I also provide my feedback because a lot of people

1307
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: don't realize that responsibility means realize that you affect other people.

1308
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: To me, was one of the most powerful lines in

1309
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: your book. And thank you. I appreciate that you know

1310
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: one of my sayings for real time, it all starts

1311
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 1: with you, because I have to look within myself and say, okay,

1312
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, how is my life going to affect you? Know,

1313
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: others around and often say to tell my kids this

1314
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: and myself. Always tell yourself that you are influence. I

1315
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: always say I am influenced every single day. And my

1316
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: question that I asked myself at the end of the

1317
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 1: day is how did I influence the environment around me?

1318
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: You know, whether it be going to a meeting, whether

1319
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: it be're going with my team, whether it be going

1320
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: to my family or the kids that I coach, How

1321
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: did I inspire them through my life? I can inspire

1322
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: in a negative way, a neutral way, or a positive way.

1323
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: And so I'm always trying to make sure that when

1324
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: someone gets around me, whether that's through you know, telling

1325
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: stories about my past and this, are giving them insights

1326
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: on different things. When someone gets around me, I want

1327
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: them to be better because they came and encounter with me.

1328
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: And so I think when you understand that you have influence,

1329
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: even if you're walking to the supermarket there, you know,

1330
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: you can be having a bad day and the attitude

1331
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: you might somebody might feel that energy and look at

1332
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: you be like, oh, like dang, you know, maybe my

1333
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 1: day is now even worse. So you can be the

1334
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: person who says, you know what, smiles the person you

1335
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: don't never never know that they just might need that.

1336
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: So I just always realized that with my life that

1337
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: I have the opportunity to make an environment better every

1338
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: single day, and so I try to live by that

1339
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: and it's really important. And you know I I I'm

1340
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: just talking about the book. I'm talking to Trent Shelton.

1341
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: The book is called Straight Up Right Now. You can

1342
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: pre order it. Uh. It comes out officially August fourth.

1343
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: My goal is to have this book number one. That's

1344
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: what I won't tell you, Trent. Number one. I had

1345
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: three of them with Steve Harvey. We went three straight

1346
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: number one, I mean real number one, not just best seller.

1347
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: She best selling number one. Two different conversations. I want

1348
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: you because this book has much value in it that

1349
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: uh it it struck me. And that's what I'm saying

1350
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: is that you know eight to eighty that they say

1351
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: black crippler crazies, they say what I was growing up.

1352
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: Everybody can get value out of this book, especially if

1353
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: you're trying to look in your life and try to

1354
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: jump start it, because a lot of people need to

1355
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 1: jump start their lives because they're doing that. I always

1356
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: talking about because you talk about relationships and you're hitting

1357
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: so many areas. I think that are important. Let's talk

1358
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: about it. Why did you want to speak about relationships?

1359
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: Because relationships are everything you know, as human beings. You know,

1360
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: our connections with you know, whether it's a intimate relationship,

1361
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, a business relationship, whether it's a friendship.

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01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: Relationships are important. You know, you talk to people and

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01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: usually if something is going wrong in their life, it'sus

1364
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: really tied to a relationship. So I think it's just

1365
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: important that we build strong relationships, we cultivate, you know,

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: strong relationships in our lives, so it helps us be better.

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think relationships are everything. Cool. Uh And

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01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if something of the book that did

1369
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: you want some things to be humorous in the book,

1370
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: because some of them I just have to laugh at

1371
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: loud at you, you know, like for instance, I'll changing

1372
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: some man the front of the front of the book.

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: When you was in that mud race, Man, I was

1374
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: laughing so loud at you, And what took you so long? Yeah?

1375
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I really thought I was gonna

1376
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: die that day. Like I was like, I made my

1377
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: piece for god man to do it, not to me.

1378
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: I was like, you work here are you supposed to

1379
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: being came and you you're supposed to let us know

1380
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: what you stand in life. That's why. That's why I

1381
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: took from that line. That's why because so many people

1382
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: are out there living a life and and and they're

1383
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: they're not as saying they need help. They's not saying

1384
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: they need change. Because when you're about to make change,

1385
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: you have to admit a failure. You have to admit

1386
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: a failure to have changed in your life. See how

1387
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: so many people want to admit don't want to admit that.

1388
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why this book is so important,

1389
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: because this is a great moment. And I remember when

1390
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: I was when I first went on tour as a

1391
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: stand up comedian. I can't swim, okay, tramp And I

1392
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: went out there and and then it was it was

1393
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: a major decision I had to make on the shore

1394
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: because my friends said, hey, man, you know, if you

1395
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: want to use the jet ski, just going out there

1396
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: just right there to you. And then and then and

1397
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: I had made a major decision in my mind, Okay,

1398
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: do I act like I know how to swim and

1399
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: get on this jet ski or do I put on

1400
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: a life jacket. I made the decision. That's why you

1401
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: still hear me talking today to put on this life

1402
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: jacket because I went out there and I fell off

1403
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: that jet ski, and that jet ski went into a circle,

1404
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: and if I would not have had that jacket on,

1405
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: I would have drowned. I would have officially drowned that day.

1406
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying right there, is that we

1407
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: have to admit what we can't do to be able

1408
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: to accomplished what we can do. That's a resounding theme

1409
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: in this book. Correct absolutely absolutely unpresent. And with that

1410
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: being say right there, now let's talk about let's walk

1411
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: through this whole bud race. You know, you know you'd

1412
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: already embarrassed yourself in the previous mother race, So use

1413
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: the term youth the athlete. You've probably still cut up, start,

1414
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: probably still had that had that stomach looking right, So

1415
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: walk through the steps of that. You know, when you

1416
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: realize you died in that cold water, You died in

1417
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: that cold water, and that body, and that body said,

1418
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: you know something, I'm gonna start talking now, I'm gonna

1419
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: take over this race and let you know how I

1420
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: feel about what you've been doing to me. You're in

1421
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: the water now, you're just like Rishan. But Rahan had

1422
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: a life jacket. Okay that, but that jet ski was

1423
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: circling me. I could just see it circlar But I

1424
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: had a life jacket and I was thinking, God that

1425
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: you told me to put on his life jacket. You

1426
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: didn't let me do nothing stupid. But unlike that, you're

1427
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,839
Speaker 1: dived in this cold water. You don't have a life jacket.

1428
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: Walkers through the steps, Trent whatever. I dropped into the

1429
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: water and like, I'm adausted, right, I don't know why

1430
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: they have at the end anyway, but I dropped into

1431
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: the water the trail te See your version of exhausted

1432
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: exhaust my version of do different things. So you are

1433
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: you are a superior athlete. You gotta say that because

1434
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: at the time you were leading, right, yep, I was you.

1435
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: So you're superior athlete that you're leading the race. You're

1436
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: on top of the wall. All you have to do

1437
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: is zip line, drop into this water and you swim

1438
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: and you declared the victor. And you know it's the

1439
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: mud race. And everybody know about these mud races. See

1440
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: is that really not too many black people? Later black

1441
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: people participate in these mud races. Okay, so here you

1442
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: are you know you're black man leading the mud race

1443
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: in Texas, not walking through the steps, not brother. Yes, uh,

1444
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: and you're very it's funny, so I say, it makes

1445
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: it even more true. So I jumped into the dropped

1446
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: into the water, and I can swimm something okay, cool,

1447
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, not that bad with him, but I kiss

1448
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 1: the full body cramps like the water is freezing, and

1449
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: so immediately like i know that I'm in trouble, but

1450
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm not about to sit here and

1451
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: call out for help. I'm gonna push through. So I'm

1452
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: trying to swim and I just can't. And so the

1453
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: funny thing about it, there's a guy that drops in

1454
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: behind me, and I'm like I'm asking him for help,

1455
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: like help, and he kind of looks at me like

1456
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: he stops and me keep swimming. So I'm like, damn,

1457
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: that's messed up, you know. I guess it's like a

1458
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: ruin my thumb. You know. At that point, I'm like, okay,

1459
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm panicking. So now now my helps are getting louder,

1460
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: and then you know, all the embarrassment is going out

1461
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: the window because I feel like I'm about to die.

1462
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm really fighting my doggy paddle in

1463
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: the water, fighting to stay above. Make a long story short,

1464
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: I end up like pretty much nobody. So there's people

1465
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: that work there, right, so I'm like, okay, somebody's gonna

1466
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: jump in. These people were way for somebody else to

1467
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: do it, so they were just literally they were trained

1468
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: to jump in and and help. Nobody help. This guy

1469
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: throws a bully out there, which is probably you know,

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Speaker 1: ten yards away from me, and I can't even move

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: a yard, and like that doesn't help. So I just

1472
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: made my peace. For God. I'm like, okay, this is it.

1473
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: This time must go out. It was like it's the

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: wrong way to go out, Like at a at a

1475
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: month race driving in a little lake, and two as

1476
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to go down, I see a guy finally

1477
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: jump in, and so that like gave me the strength

1478
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: and like, okay, just kick and push fight all you can.

1479
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: Like I exhausted everything. Man, not to get too much

1480
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: t m I, but like my whole body was depleted.

1481
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: And I push up and then the guy finally comes

1482
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: out there. He saves me. He brings me to the side.

1483
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: He's mad, I mean, like he's he had his boots

1484
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: and he was he wasn't the one supposed to jump in,

1485
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: so he's mad and he's like, if you can't swim,

1486
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: why did you come out here? And I was like,

1487
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: but I can't swim. I was like, what took you

1488
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: so long? Like and I was I was angry. Make

1489
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: a long story short. They take us to the tent

1490
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: and in the tentance it's two people in the tent

1491
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: and both of us was black. I was like, I

1492
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: was like God, I was like this, this would be

1493
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: the perfect stereotype of this. Make a look. After after

1494
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: they got to the set, I said, you know what,

1495
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm getting my medal. I was like, I just so

1496
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: I went over there, I grabbed my metal, even tho

1497
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 1: I didn't finish, I'm getting my medal. So that just

1498
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: taking a valuable lesson man to ask for help, you know,

1499
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: and not be embarrassed to do it, because I probably

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: have saved myself a lot more if I were really

1501
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: called out for help earlier. Well, well that's why this

1502
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: book is about lessons. And I think the biggest thing

1503
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: I like one of the it was so many great

1504
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: takeaways training. I'm gonna just tell you about the book.

1505
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: There's so many because they were relatable. And I think

1506
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: that that's what make this a That's what makes this

1507
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: a very affective book and effective read because of the

1508
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: fact that this is a scenario about this basically a

1509
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: story about when you need help, ask for That's what

1510
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: that whole journey of that story was in a in

1511
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: a nutshell saying that I'm gonna just show you how

1512
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: I pushed my body to a level where it was done,

1513
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: but my ego, my ego almost killed me, almost caused

1514
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: me to die because I refused to ask for help.

1515
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: Now what did you basically out tind of just learning that,

1516
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: did you learn anything else other than saying if you

1517
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: need help, uh call forward? Uh uh? Anything else out

1518
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: of that whole scenario? Well? Yeah, Another big thing is,

1519
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, every a lot of people ain't really ain't

1520
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: willing to reach their life for you because there are

1521
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: people there that I knew, you know, like that I

1522
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: knew that I saw watching like my man back, my

1523
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: man just swimming past you. You said, help, excuse me,

1524
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: the finish lae finish Yeah he he like he went

1525
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 1: and went past. So the thing I took from that

1526
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: I tell people to this day, like a real friend

1527
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 1: somebody who really is for you is not going to

1528
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be the person that talks to you about,

1529
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, and watch you struggle, reports your struggles. They're

1530
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a person that says, you know what, like

1531
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: we were in allow as about it because I was

1532
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: in there hoping you're struggling together or we didn't make it.

1533
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: And it's just like you realize that when struggle shows up,

1534
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: a lot of loyalty or a lot of you know,

1535
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: uh people claim that they're really for you will disappear.

1536
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: And they taught me a lot about that because literally,

1537
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: it was probably a hundred people there that I knew

1538
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: because I lit a fitness class out there, and some

1539
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: people didn't see me. But I know for a fact

1540
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: about thirty people taught me in there, and they weren't

1541
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: really they wasn't willing to risk their life or even

1542
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it was a life risking situation,

1543
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: but there wasn't really get in there and helped me out.

1544
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: And so it just taught me a lot about when

1545
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: it gets really you're gonna see who's really real, who's

1546
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: really there for you? Well, what's what's with that statement?

1547
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: Let's live the chapter five which I have that here

1548
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 1: called straight up about friends. Yeah, And I was talking

1549
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: to my staff the other day that was just you know,

1550
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't say I'm a loner, but I'm

1551
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,839
Speaker 1: a I'm a overachiever, and I'm a guy who pivots.

1552
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: So that when I said, pivot means and when I

1553
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: see an opportunity, Trent, I will go and get to

1554
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: achieve success in that opportunity. So when you pivot, a

1555
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: lot of times you that means that the mindset A

1556
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: lot of people go, hey, man, where are you going there?

1557
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people will say, man, you you try

1558
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: to do everything. A lot of people were kind of like, uh,

1559
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: throw negative statements to you just because you're willing to

1560
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: put forth the after to be successful. So you have

1561
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: to always watch when people throw those cliches out there.

1562
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 1: You never satisfy or you're trying to. You're trying to

1563
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: be good at everything. You know, you know, so once

1564
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: you just settled down. That's a lot of older people

1565
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: say to you, won't you just settled down? You're good

1566
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: at one thing? And so to me, as I went along,

1567
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: I was I told them as to look the people

1568
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: I graduated from high school. I don't really know him anymore.

1569
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: The people I went to college, there's a bunch of

1570
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: us started out together. I really don't know him anymore.

1571
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: The people that worked at my first job. And so

1572
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: as you go through life, you're you're gonna you're gonna pivot.

1573
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have people who believe in you, and you're

1574
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna have people that support you, but more importantly, surround

1575
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: yourself with the people who are uh, the street term

1576
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: it is rye or die, but basically that's what you

1577
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: gotta have. And sometimes even those ride to die people

1578
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: when you pivot, might not be ready for that change,

1579
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: and you may need to say, you know, I'm sorry,

1580
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: this is where our relationship ends. And that's what that's

1581
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: what professional sports does. Professional sports they know how to pivot.

1582
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: They go, look, you know, you you good five years ago.

1583
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: You may it was good last season, but I got

1584
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: somebody else. And life is about pivoting, and that's what

1585
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: That was my great takeaway from that chapter. I wanted

1586
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 1: to hear your your take on it as well. That

1587
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: was chapter five straight up about friends. Yeah. Absolutely, Um.

1588
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: I always said when when you hit new levels, you're

1589
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: gonna probably get new relationships because everybody won't be willing

1590
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: to grow with you. That's just facts. You know. There's

1591
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: some people that don't understand that. There's some people that

1592
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: don't want to put in the work, there's some people

1593
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: that it makes uncomfortable. And so as you continue to

1594
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: move and progress with your life, you're going to lose people.

1595
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: And that's something I had to realize because for me,

1596
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: it was like, why don't you get this? And like

1597
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: you said, those cliches like I have, people say you

1598
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: still doing that little rehab time thing or why are

1599
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 1: you you know, And it's because a lot of people

1600
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: don't understand just greatness. They don't they don't understand going

1601
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: for your dreams. A lot of people talk about it,

1602
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't have that mindset. And

1603
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: so what's helped me um, you know, over these years,

1604
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: it's finding people that have that mindset, finding people who

1605
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: who challenge me, Finding people who are either at where

1606
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: I want to be, are are trying their hardest to

1607
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: get where I want to be. And the more I'm

1608
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: surrounding myself around people with those values, it's tended to

1609
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: stick relationships in my life. Right because I got around people,

1610
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: not for external reasons. Are not because you know, we

1611
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: we just connect like that, but because you have a

1612
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: mindset that I wouldn't mind catching. Because mindsets are very contagious,

1613
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: which you surround your life around, you're gonna be that,

1614
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, for if you stay around that for a

1615
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: long period of time. So I'm trying to find mindsets

1616
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: that grow mind and that give me outside my covert

1617
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: zone as much as I can. I want to close

1618
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: out with this last chapter here talking to Trent Shelton,

1619
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: I want to just talk about this whole thought about fear,

1620
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: And in chapter ten it's about straight up about fear.

1621
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: And I always talk about fear what I talk to people,

1622
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 1: because fear of change, fear of you know, the pandemic

1623
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: has really talked us a lot about fear because of

1624
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: the fact that it's it's forced us to live in

1625
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: a life that we wouldn't do, we didn't prepare for,

1626
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: and it's forced us to make adjustments financial adjusttional, social adjustments.

1627
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 1: And this chapter I think is so relevant now and

1628
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: because of the fact of the pandemic, and it's about

1629
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: facing the dog, as you say, and the dog is

1630
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: about you know, I always till when you're growing up

1631
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: and say, if you stare a dog barking, if you

1632
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: stare at him, he had cower down. That's what they

1633
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, you know. But but that chapter

1634
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: I thought was so important to me because of what

1635
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: is happening right now, facing reality, willing to make change,

1636
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: failures and fatal how they had fear talk about that

1637
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,839
Speaker 1: and we're wrapped us up trending trending. I really appreciate

1638
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: you coming on the show. Well, I appreciate you, man,

1639
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, fears this, you know, I think

1640
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: there's two types of fear, right, There's a fear that

1641
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: that that keeps you a live as a fear that

1642
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: tells you, hey, you shouldn't go do that because more

1643
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: than likely, you know, maybe it was me jumping like

1644
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: you getting on the on the gear, right, it's like

1645
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: your fear told you, hey, you might go on like this.

1646
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: So there's a smart fear. But there's also a fear

1647
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: that keeps us from being everything that we're created to be.

1648
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: Our keepers from progressive and we usually happens with fear

1649
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: is that we allow things we can't control to control us.

1650
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Are as I like to say, we create a result

1651
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: from a situation we haven't experienced yet. And so if

1652
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: when I think about my fear of public speaking, it

1653
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: was I was telling myself I was gonna fail. I

1654
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: was telling myself people are gonna laugh at me before

1655
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: I ever started. And so if you're telling yourself that,

1656
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: you're never going to do it. And so the thing

1657
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: that I love to tell people is that one focus

1658
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: on what you can control and to change the experience right,

1659
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: say okay, even if it doesn't go right, I'm going

1660
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: to grow from this. I'm gonna learn from this, and

1661
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: you will find the courage to walk through that door

1662
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: for every single time if we wanna waits for you,

1663
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: it's something that's positive. So I just think that's how

1664
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: we really challenge fear is by facing it. And this

1665
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: is the thing too, You'll never win. You're a war

1666
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: by runner from your battles. So people want to complain

1667
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: about the reality, but you'll never change it if you

1668
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: never say, my man, I want to appreciate you. This.

1669
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Trich Shelton, the author of the amazing

1670
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: book that's coming out August fourth, but you can pre

1671
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: order it right now. It's called Straight Up The helpful

1672
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: book guys young adults to establish healthy relationships, chase after

1673
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: their dreams, and live their very best life. Thank you

1674
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: Trent for coming on the show. My friend and we

1675
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: will be in touch. Get those banners to me, man,

1676
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, I got you, man, Thank you so much

1677
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 1: much love. Uh. This ra Sean McDonald. Uh. If you

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Speaker 1: Erupted into protests following the shooting death of the armed

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Speaker 1: black teenager. Sounds familiar. An Oxford educated African American financial

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Speaker 1: Two years later, that executive launched a digital banking platform

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Speaker 1: that would target them more than fifty million unbanked and

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Speaker 1: making conversation, role coax him. Thank you very much for Sean,

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Speaker 1: It's great to be with you. Well, uh, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty dramatic opening. That's uh an inspiration. We all need

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Speaker 1: to be inspired by something. We all need to look

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Speaker 1: at our look in the mirror and saying it's this

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Speaker 1: my ultimate path, this is my journey. You know, we

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Speaker 1: all go to school, you highly educated. And then we

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Speaker 1: opened about this conversation about the unarmed black man, young teenager,

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Speaker 1: and in that was in this world? Is in the world?

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Speaker 1: I say, it's an uh emotional turner turner because of

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Speaker 1: what happened to George Floyd in Minnesota. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic and you saw something, sir,

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Speaker 1: and I I give a lot of speeches like I'm

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Speaker 1: on news all the time talking about economic crisis, and

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Speaker 1: it all keeps going back to the minorities, people of color,

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Speaker 1: African American who are suffering, who don't have the right

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Speaker 1: banking talked to us about that whole process that starting

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Speaker 1: in and we're gonna come forward to because what you

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Speaker 1: so you know the reality is that, Um, when I

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Speaker 1: was at my job, I was one of the most

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Speaker 1: senior Black people at JP Morgan, and I realized that

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Speaker 1: where I was sitting, I was not in a position

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Speaker 1: to impact my community where I come from, with my people,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted I was at a stage in life

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Speaker 1: where I said, you know what, I'd rather try and

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Speaker 1: solve this problem and fail than to stay in my

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Speaker 1: job and keep doing what I'm doing, because at least

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Speaker 1: I can have the satisfaction in life of trying to

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Speaker 1: tackle it. And I was so frustrated with being in

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Speaker 1: conversations with people talking about the problem and not really

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Speaker 1: having a conversation about, well, here's some tangible solutions. So

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Speaker 1: I thought, let me take my training I've been fortunately

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Speaker 1: fortunate to have worked at some of the biggest financial

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Speaker 1: services companies in this country with some well known people,

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Speaker 1: and I said, let me take this training and see

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Speaker 1: if I can bring it back to my community. UM.

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Speaker 1: And that's how we got to mokify. And we all

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Speaker 1: have our moments in life. But when I was watching

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Speaker 1: Ferguson Burn, it reminded me of episodes of Eyes on

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Speaker 1: the Prize that so many of us grew up watching

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Speaker 1: as as a young person, and so many more of

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Speaker 1: us lived through UM in the Civil rights era. And

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Speaker 1: I just thought that, you know what, there's got to

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Speaker 1: be a better way. And got all this training, Let's

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Speaker 1: see if you can put it to you. So that

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Speaker 1: was my sort of George Floyd moment happened um then,

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Speaker 1: and it put me in a position to ask some

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Speaker 1: difficult questions. Why do black folks spend more than fifty

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Speaker 1: on banking products in their white counterparts every month? Right?

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Speaker 1: Why is it that over the course of a lifetime,

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Speaker 1: a black person can spend forty thousand dollars more for

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Speaker 1: banking services than their counterpart. And how can we have

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Speaker 1: an impact? Because it's all about how do we create

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Speaker 1: wealth in our communities, and it's got to start by

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Speaker 1: not going to the check cashier. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know in two thousands, you know, when I was

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01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: doing radio, Steve Harban, I was doing radio just watching

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01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: them going to Compton. These checks hashings, just outrageous fees

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01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 1: they're paying in watts and competence South l a. And

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Speaker 1: not only just there, but in the Fifth War and

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Speaker 1: the third wards of Houston, Texas, and South side of Chicago.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the communities of Harlem, New York, and

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Speaker 1: other boroughs in the d C Area. Even where you go,

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Speaker 1: black people are being explored it because they don't have

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Speaker 1: access to the correct way to you to to to

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Speaker 1: to receive their money and to positive money. That's exactly right,

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01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: and there's an assumption that those are the right ways

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Speaker 1: that should serve the black community. The fact that they're

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Speaker 1: more check cashers than there are McDonald's and burger Kings

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01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: in this country tells you a lot. Right of the

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01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: of the bank branches that have closed in this country

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Speaker 1: have been in low and moderate income communities, and that's

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Speaker 1: our community. So we can do better. And I wanted

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Speaker 1: to try to be a part of that conversation. Um.

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Speaker 1: And to bring it to today, to your point, we're

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Speaker 1: seeing the implications of being on the outside looking in

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01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: from the financial services perspective. How does that manifest itself?

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01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: It manifests itself in such a way that you've got um,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people who still haven't collected. They're yes,

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Speaker 1: if your couple or five hundred dollars a child, if

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Speaker 1: child has not turned eighteen, that's exactly right. And so

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Speaker 1: why are we, the most vulnerable of us, need these dollars?

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01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: And yet if we're waiting for a check, and even

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Speaker 1: if we get the check, we still got to go

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Speaker 1: to the check casher to cash it. Oh but by

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Speaker 1: the way, the check casher is I've got to leave

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Speaker 1: my home to get there. That puts me at risk,

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Speaker 1: you know, with this COVID nineteen situation. And so now

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Speaker 1: I've got to risk my life to cash a check

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Speaker 1: that and oh, by the way, I'm not gonna get

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01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: my full I gotta pay a fee to get that

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Speaker 1: money in the first place. I mean, it just all

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. And also, let's remind me and you

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Speaker 1: cashing it not in the most friendly environment. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got a buzzy in glass. They don't even trust

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Speaker 1: don't want to posit your money. They don't They want

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Speaker 1: to just see you for that one time, get what

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Speaker 1: they can get out of you, buzz you out. So

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Speaker 1: it's never environment that they wants you to bring your

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Speaker 1: children into. There's nobody there with a lollypops. Their condition

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Speaker 1: environment what you sit on the chair, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking this, that's how people do quality banking when

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Speaker 1: you want to put your money in. This is the

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01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: environment that they're not used to. So guess what generation

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01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: behind you sees that and say that's how I do

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Speaker 1: my money too. That's how I'm supposed to live. That's

1847
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: why I say now I had to bring you on

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Speaker 1: the show man. This is just right here. We just

1849
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: started scratching the surface of the greatness of what you

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01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 1: have come about, what you're delivering, because I'm at the

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01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 1: forefront of just black people. You know, they when these

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01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: twelve hun dollars stimulus checks going straight to the people

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01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: who file taxes and then then that money gets returned

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01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: back to the government. They never see it because they

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01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: don't have bank accounts, right, right, right, And the thing

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01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: about it is a bank account. It sounds so simple,

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01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 1: but for so many of us, it's not that simple.

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01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: And one of the things that we're imagining a world

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Speaker 1: is we're going to transform the stores and the locations

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01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: where we live into virtual bank branches. So what we're

1861
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: what we're setting up is you can get there's a

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Speaker 1: free a t M network. We've got an a t

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Speaker 1: I don't care what your balance is. We're not charging

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Speaker 1: a monthly minimum fee. We're not charging you um to

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01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: set up the account. You can start transacting with us

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Speaker 1: for free, and you get the state of the art

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Speaker 1: plastic touchless. It's got a chip in it, it's got

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Speaker 1: a pin because that's what we deserve because our philosophy

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01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 1: is if you bring a high quality product to a

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Speaker 1: large market, you've got a game with the business. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: so we're transforming the walmarts, the CVS is, the Riot

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01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: aids into places where you can put cash in your

1874
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: account for free, take cash out of your account for free,

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01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: and we're allowing people to take checks pictures of their

1876
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: check and that money will be deposited into your account

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01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 1: for free, real time. There's no reason you need to

1878
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Speaker 1: go to check cash or ever again if you work

1879
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Speaker 1: with about and and the part that I'm so excited about.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about so many parts of this, and you

1881
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: know this is this is where I'm excited, so is Dad.

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01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: See what black people or people of color have to

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01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: have to learn and understand that that cell phone is

1884
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: a mini computer, It's a meaning computer, and that is

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01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: the game changer that we have to educate them about

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Speaker 1: because you're about to get hit again with this potential

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Speaker 1: home schooling are are are because of panded, because of

1888
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic and COVID eighteen. We have to learn that

1889
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: this this little app that you can drop, that you

1890
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: can did you did you feel it's only for texting,

1891
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 1: for taking photos and making phone calls? Is the game

1892
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: anger for your financial life. That is what I really

1893
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: want to pound on this interview is that you know

1894
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: black people buy more Android phones than anybody in the world.

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01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: Black people right right right, And when I saw this,

1896
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Speaker 1: I went Okay, as a team, we have to I

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01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: have to talk to him because I gotta figure out

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Speaker 1: a way to be able to sell this I got,

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01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, I got a bi monthly newsletter goes out

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01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: the ninety thousand fans every month, and to grow is growing,

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01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: and I want to drop this information in there. You know.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they're block you on Facebook when you start talking

1903
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Speaker 1: financial and stuff like that. But I have my own

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Speaker 1: assets that I can put the word out because this

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Speaker 1: type of information that you're delivering has to be told

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01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: and has to be shared because of the fact that

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01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: if we don't understand that that that this this pandemic

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01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: should be an eye opened from the technology side or

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01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 1: the lack of information that we're using through technology. And

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Speaker 1: this mobility app that you created, that mobile of the

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Speaker 1: capital finance app is the game changer, sir. It's the

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Speaker 1: game change. Uh well, the things that I appreciate that

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Speaker 1: and we want to be very much a part of

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Speaker 1: your getting the word out. So I look forward to

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of how you reach your nine and growing. Um,

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Speaker 1: I got eight hundred thousands on my Facebook. I got

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Speaker 1: another hundred thousands. We're gonna figure out how to get

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Speaker 1: this out there, you know. And I just know that

1919
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Speaker 1: sometimes we say financial money and your copy you know,

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Speaker 1: Facebook or Flag and all this, but We're gonna figure

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Speaker 1: this out because you you just say mobility and capital finance.

1922
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Speaker 1: I think I can get that out like that. But

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Speaker 1: I just know that you you gotta be smart, you know,

1924
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Speaker 1: when you're trying to reach your people. I got eighty

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Speaker 1: eight percent of my excuse me aightent of my followers

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Speaker 1: on my Facebook account or female, which are the decision

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Speaker 1: makers who are the usually the people who handle the

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Speaker 1: purse strings. So I know I have the right audience

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Speaker 1: to be able to communicate. It's just being able to

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Speaker 1: get you on the show. Let you know I'm a fan,

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Speaker 1: and let you know I have a high degree of

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Speaker 1: sincerity when I'm talking to you. Well, I appreciate that

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Speaker 1: very much. You when you talk about the your your

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01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: your fan base, and your women, it Drew reminds me

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Speaker 1: of something my mom says often, which is stopping the

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01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: women stops the power. And so we need to empower

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Speaker 1: women so they are because they really do have the

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Speaker 1: responsibility of managing our homes and managing our lives. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that I've been very we're very focused

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Speaker 1: on is around and and and just peep this around

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Speaker 1: rent payments being a way that people can build their

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Speaker 1: credit score. So if you think about it, for many

1943
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: of us, our rent payment on a monthly basis is

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Speaker 1: the largest expense that we have each month, and so

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 1: few of us actually get that pay aim it into

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01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: the credit file. We make that free for people. We

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01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 1: we enable that and it's free to people. So if

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01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: they pay that rent on our platform and they can

1949
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: give us the name of their landlord and we can

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Speaker 1: send the landlord to check. We can at the same

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Speaker 1: time provide the two of the bureaus, Equifax and TransUnion

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Speaker 1: that information and all, by the way, that was brilliant.

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Speaker 1: That was brilliant, sir. That was I've read that. I went,

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01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: that's brilliant because you know, and that's true because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, they don't report that, and

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01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: so that's the number one thing that we do is

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Speaker 1: pay rent. Pay rents okay, and the fact that you

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01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: can't even get credit for paying rent. And when I

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01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,759
Speaker 1: saw that part, I went, wow, Wow, this is brilliant.

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Speaker 1: This is brilliant. Now how are you because I see

1961
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: twenty five years, which is not enough. We are not

1962
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Speaker 1: even close to our number. How do we get that

1963
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: number moving exponentially? In the black community, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: So we think about it in two ways. It's having

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Speaker 1: this conversation UH and having as many of your readers

1966
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Speaker 1: and listeners UM tune in and try us out UM

1967
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: and making sure that people understand the value. So that's

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Speaker 1: part of it. We we too are really trying to

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Speaker 1: improve our digital game UH and spend time on the

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Speaker 1: various social media platforms where people are looking for solutions.

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Speaker 1: And then we're also just but you know, if you

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Speaker 1: look at our community and our history, movements start from

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01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: the bottom up, right, and so we just need to

1974
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 1: be in the community. For example, we're in Newark and

1975
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 1: the folks who are in a summer job program working

1976
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 1: with the City of Newark, they're using our platform to

1977
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 1: get paid their summer wages. Instead of getting gift cards,

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01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: they're actually opening up a full dd A bank account

1979
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: on our platform. Right, We've got folks in Brooklyn who

1980
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 1: are UM getting some COVID relief dollars and they are

1981
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 1: instead of getting along gift cards, they are able to

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Speaker 1: sign up and get their dollars by opening up an

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Speaker 1: account with us, and the organizations are putting dollars into

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Speaker 1: those accounts. So it's those kinds of opportunities. We've got

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Speaker 1: folks in Atlanta who are we're helping provide through some

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Speaker 1: philanthropic dollars rent relief so people don't get evicted from

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Speaker 1: their homes and at the same time saying, now is

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Speaker 1: the time for you to think about improving your banking

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Speaker 1: situations so you don't have to waste money on excess fees.

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Speaker 1: So we're just trying to go through all the channels

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01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: with great community partners, folks like yourselves who reach such

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01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 1: an important audience, UH to tell the story and hopefully

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01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: each person that uses a product they'll tell a friend

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01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we'll grow it that way. One

1995
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Speaker 1: of the things that's credit you can send money to

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Speaker 1: another Motifi we called Mobility Capital finance, so we go

1997
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Speaker 1: by mokifi another Motify card holder for free instantaneously versus

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01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: going to Western Union playing fees. Yeah, I'm telling you something.

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Speaker 1: I know. This is a This is a lot of

2000
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Speaker 1: stuff going on that you know, because you know when

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Speaker 1: you when you when you sit on the other side

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01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 1: and just like you said, on the other side and

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01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: you do business a certain way and you're going to bank,

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: they look at you different and your bank account looks different,

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Speaker 1: and then not see my people living a life struggling, struggling,

2006
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 1: and you're struggling because I grew up in inner city,

2007
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: so I know struggle and u and so this, this

2008
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 1: is such a quality mission. And the reason I keep

2009
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: bringing it up is that black people functioning this kind

2010
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: treat and we don't get credit for how we function.

2011
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: And that's what racism is all about. And we don't

2012
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Speaker 1: get in function. And that's the problem we're having right

2013
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: now with with with with the with these Confederate statues. See,

2014
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Speaker 1: if you actually taught our history and put us in

2015
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: the history books, you clearly understand those statues should never

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Speaker 1: have been up. You'll clearly understand what we've had to do.

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01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: But they take all that gym crow out of the

2018
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: history books use because white people don't want to feel

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01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: uncomfortable reading about how they treated blacks. They don't feel

2020
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: uncomfortable how they were hanging blacks, how they were denying

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01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: blacks opportunities. That's uncomfortable part of history. So flash forward

2022
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 1: they go, what's the problem, what's the problem with the flag?

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01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 1: What's problem with these statues? They hear out because they

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Speaker 1: removed all that information as to why they are not

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Speaker 1: heroes to the people in power and for the people

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Speaker 1: who have suffered. The indignity is because of that situation

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Speaker 1: that they put us in. And so when I see

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Speaker 1: your app and I see technology, because that's the one

2029
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,560
Speaker 1: thing that came out of this whole pandemic for me,

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01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 1: that black people we got to put our foot to

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Speaker 1: the metal and technology. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that

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Speaker 1: on a percent. And technology is the great uh equalizer,

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Speaker 1: if you will. To your point, we all have the

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01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: same phone. Uh there's more technology and the phones that

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01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: we have today than there was. And they put someone

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01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 1: on the moon, um, you know, fifty years ago. So

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01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: the power is there. But we have another fundamental problem

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Speaker 1: which you which you remind me of, right, thirty six

2039
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 1: percent of black households do not have internet or computer access,

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01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, so we have to deal with some fundamental

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Speaker 1: Banking is a fundamental thing. It's mobile, and I think

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01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: that allows us to bank the way we want to

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01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 1: be banked because we're pretty sophisticated people. You give us

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01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: a good product and that's what that's that's what I'm

2045
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: saying that we got to move that number because we

2046
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna tell you something man. Nobody likes

2047
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: just giving away their money. Okay, nobody likes going down

2048
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: to those check cashing place. I know nobody leaves they're happy.

2049
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 1: I never see anybody click their heels come out of

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01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: the check cashing man. Okay, Like I said, they gotta

2051
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 1: budge you in. It's just just like going into jail. Look,

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01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: get your money. It's terrible. It's terrible. And so and

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01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: so and so when I and and the just and

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01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: so when I when I hear you're talking. That's why

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01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: I have to realize that that that they're the opportunity

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01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: with this phone to be able to let them know

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01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 1: there's more than just a phone, because through limited education,

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01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: that's all we think there is. I talk, I text,

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01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 1: I take photos. That's it the app because those apps

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01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: have no value to them. They don't care about running

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01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 1: a car, they don't care about airline, airline tickets, they

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01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: don't care about a lot of things that are important

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01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: to you and I. All they care about is their money.

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: And there's no there to not knowledge. There's no app

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01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 1: on there that can help them with money. And that's

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01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: what we got to educate people about. That's right, what

2067
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: we think about the world in three places, in three ways. One,

2068
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 1: we want to get people banged, and to your point,

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01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 1: half of African Americans are unbanked or underbanked. That's we do.

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01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: We don't have to live that way. The second is,

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01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: we want to help people build their credit score. And um,

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01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 1: we're doing it through rent payments. We report to the

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01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: two of the bureaus and that and of it self

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01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: contadium money because you know there are these credit repair

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01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: places that will could charge you, you know, hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: two hundred dollars to get you fifty points. Um on

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01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,879
Speaker 1: our I see the commercial on our on our platform.

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01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: You know you can. We can take up to two

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01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 1: years of rental history. And this is not gonna be

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01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: true for everybody, but the statistics suggest that over will

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Speaker 1: see an improvement in their credit score. We have seen

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Speaker 1: people get up to fifty to a hundred points of

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01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: credit score improvement by taking rent payments and going back

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01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: two years. And that can be done in a relatively

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01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 1: short period of time. So that's the second part. And

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01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: then the third part. If you've got your banking right,

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01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 1: if you've got your credit score right, then we can

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01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 1: start talking about how do we build wealth. Can you

2089
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:17,879
Speaker 1: buy a house. Can you start that, uh, that new business?

2090
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: Can you think about maybe putting some couple of dollars

2091
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: aside and putting it in the stock market? So how

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01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: do we start to create? And then what we do

2093
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 1: is we provide coaches free to people that understand you

2094
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: that the coach that looks like your your cousin or

2095
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: your sister who you know, it's got your best interest

2096
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: in heart, not just trying to sell you the next

2097
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: shiny object. Um. So we're trying to think about it

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Speaker 1: holistically until in terms of banking, building credit and then

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Speaker 1: creating wealth in our communities. And so we I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to I don't want the twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: when next time I come on your show. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a hundred thousand. It has to be. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a negative manner. I just

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01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 1: don't know that. I just know that you know that.

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01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: That's all I do is market you know. I just

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Speaker 1: think of ways of being able to get the message out.

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01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: And that message is that phone and and understand it's

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Speaker 1: almost like you know what, you know what a noys

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Speaker 1: to me? Like you you're you're you're buy a phone,

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Speaker 1: or you buy a computer, you get a remote, and

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Speaker 1: Netflix already on the remote, It's already there. If you

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Speaker 1: don't have if you don't on Netflix is there, It's

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Speaker 1: there already. You know what I'm saying. And so so

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Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm sitting over here, how can I

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Speaker 1: get his app on every phone? So I'm saying, right there,

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at right now, I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how can I not have his app standard on

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Speaker 1: every black phone in the minority community. How can we

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Speaker 1: how can we not make that happen? Because I see

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Speaker 1: it happening with Netflix, right I This happened on the regular.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at you look at TV. Twitter

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01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: already getting self promote to follow, Twitter, follow Facebook, you

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Speaker 1: know all of you know, follow, follow, all these all

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Speaker 1: these different brands. You are a brand, coax them. And

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Speaker 1: my mind is like, how can I get this brand

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Speaker 1: to become relevant to the black community. One of the

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Speaker 1: ways it has to become a standard bearer for opportunity,

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Speaker 1: And we have to talk to the right people. And

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01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: right now, right now, everybody's talking about diversity. Everybody's talking

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Speaker 1: about trying to help out black people, trying to equal

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01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: the playing field. My man, you have the software. Now

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01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 1: you have to talk to the right people. Go Look,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to help the black community to get

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Speaker 1: them out of those check cashes, I got it right here.

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Speaker 1: There's no agenda tied to it. Make it making making

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Speaker 1: a loadable feature these little bird of phones. Okay, right,

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Speaker 1: let's stop that. Right, that's a great idea. That's exactly correct,

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Speaker 1: and it's just right there. People don't have to think

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Speaker 1: about it, just just sign up. And that's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: So many of us may find ourselves if we were

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Speaker 1: to go to a traditional bank excluded because they might check.

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Speaker 1: Then they might they do check the check system. And

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Speaker 1: if you have a history of UM a bank account problem,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna open up account for you. We don't

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Speaker 1: have that problem. We want everybody right. We just want

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Speaker 1: to make sure you are you stare you are. You

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Speaker 1: can open up your account. It takes three minutes, and

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Speaker 1: at the end of the process, you've got your six

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Speaker 1: team digital account number. You can start charging, and you've

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Speaker 1: got your UM account number and routing number. You can

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Speaker 1: start doing direct deposit and peep this. In the coming

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, we're gonna have a set up that

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Speaker 1: you can get your paycheck two days early if you

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Speaker 1: do direct deposit with us. Okay, cool, I'm in. I'man

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Speaker 1: you know we need to stay in touch her, all right.

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Speaker 1: We need to stay in touch absolutely from the standpoint

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Speaker 1: of uh, any tool I have available because in the end,

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Speaker 1: I've been fortunate. I'm just have a natural drive just

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Speaker 1: like you. Um. We all have different hands that we

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Speaker 1: have been dealt. But it's what you deal with those opportunities.

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Speaker 1: So and I don't feel that I'm I can't be

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Speaker 1: happy if everybody if I'm not at least sharing the

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Speaker 1: gifts that God has given me. And that's what this

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Speaker 1: is what this interview is about. And uh, and I

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Speaker 1: just wanted my my my take on this would let

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Speaker 1: you know I get what you do with my friend.

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Speaker 1: I get it. We gotta we gotta, we gotta quadruple

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Speaker 1: that number. We gotta we gotta do some mad math.

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Speaker 1: Or my degree is in mathematics. We gotta do some

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Speaker 1: mad math on that number, because if we if we don't,

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Speaker 1: then we're not doing what it's purpose. We're not the

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Speaker 1: purpose of it is to is to engage African America

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Speaker 1: or people of color financially to a level playing field,

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Speaker 1: better credit, better banking, that we pay more fees than

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Speaker 1: any at We got to stop all that, right, right,

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Speaker 1: and and you know what happens you give us a

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Speaker 1: level of playing field. Guess who wins? We do all

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Speaker 1: the time, and guess who else wins? The country wins.

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Speaker 1: And that's what makes me mad about racism. I always

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Speaker 1: tell people, you know what, some man. All my life,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a black man, I groping up black. All

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Speaker 1: I ever wanted, man was the was the lifestyle of

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Speaker 1: a white person. That's why I went to college to

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Speaker 1: get educated so I can live in a better neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: All I've ever wanted was my child to have a

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Speaker 1: better life than I have. What do the same values

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Speaker 1: to everybody in America wants? But because when you try

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Speaker 1: to pursue these values, people looking at it because of

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Speaker 1: our color, the color of our sin. And we're not

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Speaker 1: giving equal opportunity to have that same opportunity because guess what,

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Speaker 1: they don't want us to move into suburbs, then we

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Speaker 1: don't want us to move in the better neighborhoods. And

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Speaker 1: so when I say this, I'm not saying this as

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Speaker 1: a as a radical person. I'm just saying the facts

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Speaker 1: is you give us an opportunity, we become better taxpaying citizens.

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Speaker 1: The community gets better, the education gets better, the jail

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Speaker 1: system is less important in our community, and America wins.

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Speaker 1: That is how you make America better. M Well, the

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Speaker 1: that is a that is very true. I can't agree

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Speaker 1: with that more. And the reality is, um that if

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Speaker 1: we do become fully a part of the economy, the

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Speaker 1: whole place gets better. Yes, and we're able to get

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Speaker 1: all votes rise. It's not it's not at the expense

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Speaker 1: got to keep in mind. My friend, we will talk soon.

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Speaker 1: You just let me know if you want to do

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Speaker 1: a zoom call or whatever. Um. And now, my passion

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Speaker 1: and my God, the talents the God gave my DNA

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Speaker 1: is allian with what you're trying to do. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: let's just change the world, okay, especially in the minority communities.

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