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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast pumps out so much content.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands and I have joined in

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Speaker 1: a stadium filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Gregg Rostal. What is up boys? Here we are Mark,

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Speaker 1: it's Groundhog Day, babe. We're back in Lucas Hill Stadium

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Speaker 1: and even to to mess with the brain more. Not

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Speaker 1: only are we in the same stadium, we're also in

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Speaker 1: the same sweet and I believe, in the same chairs,

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Speaker 1: surrounded by the same people more or less. Yeah, here

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Speaker 1: in the Huntington's suite. I'm not sure what it is

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Speaker 1: that they do, but I'm sure it's fine service. Also

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Speaker 1: the same signator, same security outside, and on our way in,

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Speaker 1: we were all detained, I believe, or at least I was,

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Speaker 1: uh much like Connor or was kicked out of the

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Speaker 1: Belding last year by the same man stopped us from

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Speaker 1: coming to this. Well, it's it's Gregg and west and

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Speaker 1: I do not have on credentials the number eight and

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Speaker 1: someone in the company failed to you know, provide the

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Speaker 1: eed on O credential board going. It's another investigation that

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Speaker 1: we're going to crack open and get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of Another way to look at it is I had

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Speaker 1: the eight on my credential. Maybe a little sign from

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Speaker 1: the company. Maybe the old Jewiser should go solo and

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Speaker 1: this should have been my show today. You know it's

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Speaker 1: always your show, Dan, I love you. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: be here there. I have to listen to that show.

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Speaker 1: Let's try it. I think it's a long offseason. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll take our shots. Um. I love being here that

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Speaker 1: I love the combine. Um, well that's strong. But I

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Speaker 1: like getting on the road with you boys and having fun.

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Speaker 1: And you know that trimp cocktail over at st Elmo's

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Speaker 1: West Oh dogging. All the sports writers are talking about it.

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Speaker 1: They changed their policy at sant Elmo this year. Now

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Speaker 1: they have Bruce Springsteen playing the entire time in every

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Speaker 1: room at a high volley him. We'll be doing that

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Speaker 1: as a group on Thursday. That will be fun. Um.

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Speaker 1: But today, uh, and tomorrow is about the press conferences.

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Speaker 1: That's really why we're here. Uh. And a lot of

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Speaker 1: coaches spoke today, a lot of gms. And it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: Greg when you, um, we've been to this many times now,

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Speaker 1: this event many many times. That's about ten too many. Seriously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: O my god. Um Greg started coming here at age three.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting event because you walk in there and

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Speaker 1: all the risers are set up. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: similar to Opening night slash Media Night at the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: only you unplug it. There's no juice to it, there's

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Speaker 1: no uh no special vibe to it. It's it's not

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Speaker 1: you remove all that a kutuma, and what you're left

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Speaker 1: with is essentially just this spot where coaches and gms

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Speaker 1: can choose to further uh any narratives around their team

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Speaker 1: if they want, and I think it's all very care

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Speaker 1: really done it. One thing I've noticed today is that

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Speaker 1: it seems like the coaches whatever, they say, what they want,

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Speaker 1: but the gms are the ones really to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to when it comes to like following narratives around teams, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and personnel. You could see the differences in terms of

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Speaker 1: will get into and I think that's because it's the

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Speaker 1: time of year where gms are trying to not show

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Speaker 1: people to think that they're going after a quarterback even

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Speaker 1: your guy? And we're gonna get into all that. Josh

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Speaker 1: there's more headlines about is this guy our guy? You

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Speaker 1: of guys spoke today. A bunch of guys will speak

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Speaker 1: share some takeaways, uh, including West. I know you have

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Speaker 1: a a lot of time. There's a lot of takeaways here. Um,

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Speaker 1: a thought on Adam. All right, let's get into it,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with I guess the biggest news if

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Speaker 1: speculation about what the Eagles will do with Nick Foles,

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Speaker 1: and it was made official. Howie Roseman stood at the

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Speaker 1: podium and said, we will not use the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: is what Rosemand had to say. It's hard when you

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Speaker 1: have someone who's incredibly valuable um to your organization at

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Speaker 1: the most important position in sports and UM. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, we've had an incredible success with him when

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Speaker 1: he's had to play UH four playoff wins over the

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Speaker 1: last two years. Great teammate. UM a huge resource for

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Speaker 1: Carson and Nate Sudfeld as well. But at the same time, UM,

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Speaker 1: he deserves an opportunity to lead a team. It's a

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Speaker 1: locker room. Uh. Mark the Eagles. I saw in subcircles

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Speaker 1: that Twitter, We're being applauded for this decision, but it

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Speaker 1: kind of just makes sense, right. I think it makes sense,

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Speaker 1: The Eagles gave us a concrete answer to one of

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Speaker 1: only is this the best quarterback out there that's available

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Speaker 1: anyone to take him. We always thought, oh, they were

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Speaker 1: try to keep him from the Redskins of the Giants

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Speaker 1: that all that stuff, and Greg, you challenged him a

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Speaker 1: scared of where Nick Foles lands. And I think this

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Speaker 1: non description I did write. I did that said release,

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Speaker 1: And there was no trade market form. They have as

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Speaker 1: much cap problems as any team in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 1: There's no way they could have his twenty five million

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Speaker 1: big question can come up with a logical other team

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reported for what it's worth that the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are the quote favorite to sign Nick Foles, and again,

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Speaker 1: like you're saying it, it's just kind of connecting the

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Speaker 1: they did right by Nick Foles. No. They they had

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Speaker 1: could develop and it didn't work out. And that's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's all business. But you don't need to give him

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Speaker 1: aren't like eight or nine teams looking for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There's no bidding war. That's the reason they're gonna let

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Speaker 1: him know there was a Mike garat Folio has been

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Speaker 1: asking the question how come people aren't nearly as high

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Speaker 1: think it's an interesting question, but I think it's because

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Speaker 1: I think there's at least a case to be made

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Speaker 1: his upside is pretty significant that he could be a

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Speaker 1: pretty good starting quarterback for a while in the right system.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kirk Cousins never played games that Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: had in big spots. Well, can can I answer that

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Speaker 1: question form? Because Kirk Cousins has been numerically a top

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Speaker 1: So that's why it doesn't surprise me at all. You

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Speaker 1: do you mean he's a compiler? So he Kirk was

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Speaker 1: paid for it. Well, they're similar. What does he just

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Speaker 1: injured teams? To the playoffs. They're similar concerns that like,

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Speaker 1: when you take Doug Peterson away from Nick Foles, what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen? And I think there's the same with

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in Washington, and certainly his best numbers were

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Speaker 1: when McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan were there. You putt Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles into a Jaguars offense with zero playmakers, let us

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Speaker 1: move on. Mike Mayock has been at this event year

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Speaker 1: around Eli that everyone just thinks saying that Dave gettleman accent,

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Speaker 1: nobody does. I do like it's like tall quote quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: short like he They love Eli the preparer and the

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Speaker 1: teacher and some that you would what he is a

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Speaker 1: good person to put with a rookie and have the

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Speaker 1: guys sitting. They talked about the chiefs model has a

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Speaker 1: success so you think it's in their head. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: he kept talking about what his mentor Ernie. Of course

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Speaker 1: he did by leaving Eli that that would be a

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Speaker 1: dream for him to do the same thing. And he

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Speaker 1: even like painted a pick I mean he was very

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Speaker 1: cessiler here painted a picture in where he's like that.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to just be watched. He just loved to

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Speaker 1: be in Cape Cod in retirement and just watching his guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, run the Giants for years like that would

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Speaker 1: give him a big source of contentment. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: been on the job for like two years. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how quickly do we he's going to retire that quickly?

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Speaker 1: But well he's he's he has like seventy and just

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Speaker 1: settling Foma so really good too. Other Giants tidbits Gentleman

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Speaker 1: shot down, not that we didn't um suspect this, that

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Speaker 1: it was all kind of just February bs. But Gentleman said,

449
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Speaker 1: we didn't give Odell Beckham Jr. A huge contract extension

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Speaker 1: to turn around and trade him. So just let's why

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Speaker 1: don't we put that on the no touch list on

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Speaker 1: this podcast now? On any O'Dell trade speculation? Uh? And

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Speaker 1: also Landon Collins. I'll throw it to one of you

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Speaker 1: guys because I heard somebody thought it was a little

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Speaker 1: saucy Greg. It was you Landon Collins Again. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of speculation about what they're gonna do with

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Speaker 1: the former first round pick. There was speaking of Shenanigans

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Speaker 1: to talk about him empty on his locker last week.

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Speaker 1: What is his future with the Giants? It's murky. Well,

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Speaker 1: there were there were some whispers that maybe they didn't

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Speaker 1: value as much as as uh, let's say, Chris and

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Speaker 1: I did when we ranked the free agents. We talked

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Speaker 1: about that on the last show. And then he had

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Speaker 1: this common gettlement today that when they were talking about

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Speaker 1: the tag, he said, let's talk about eliminating distractions. You

466
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Speaker 1: tag a guy and he's mad, and that's all you

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna write about for six months, that's what

468
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. So I have to say to myself,

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Speaker 1: is that worth it? And that that was telling to

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Speaker 1: me that he was when they asked about bringing Collins back,

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Speaker 1: he was very ambivalent about it, and it made me

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Speaker 1: think maybe he's just gonna be a free agent. It

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Speaker 1: made me think of Josh Norman, He's already been through this, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: to me, that's not that Landon Collins isn't good. It said,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go through the same thing I

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Speaker 1: went with went through. What's a combination to me? Because

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Speaker 1: if you think he's the best safety in the league,

478
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Speaker 1: you just would do it. I would think that you're right.

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Speaker 1: Norman caught us flatfooted. Gettleman surprised everyone by not tagging

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Speaker 1: him that year and letting him go. And I guess

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Speaker 1: maybe it's gonna happen a little concerned if you're avoiding

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag, which gives you another year to negotiate

483
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Speaker 1: and work on keeping this player around because of the

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Speaker 1: annoyance factor of writers writing about it between now in September, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He also, I mean he had the

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Speaker 1: way with the words He had said something about like

487
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Speaker 1: if if you tell a lie long enough, then then

488
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Speaker 1: you start to believe it, and he was talking about

489
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Speaker 1: people like Wes and I believing that we're lying about

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, that we've said it so long that that

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Speaker 1: we've started to believe it. And then at some point

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Speaker 1: you're just entrenched in your position and you can and

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Speaker 1: you can't move off the spot, which I immediately thought,

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Speaker 1: you know who can't move off the spot? Eli f

495
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Speaker 1: and Manning when the last time he is exactly what

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Speaker 1: I thought, talking about a guy who can't move off

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Speaker 1: a spot, Your quarterback can't. And I like, this is

498
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Speaker 1: a this is a window into how that media group

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Speaker 1: is so be devil because of Dave Gettleman's words, he

500
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Speaker 1: stood up there for five minutes and acted like Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: It's a false narrative. He's been a bad quarterback. His

502
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Speaker 1: numbers are bad, his winning percentages bad, his game films bad,

503
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Speaker 1: and he's bad. And you said the media they all

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Speaker 1: just lapped it up with big smiles. You're saying, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: the New York media has been doing that for four years,

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Speaker 1: except under except for Jordan reyn On, like he's always

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Speaker 1: like killing them with tough questions. Did you can tell him?

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Speaker 1: Even Gettleman was kind of just like, oh, okay, here

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Speaker 1: comes the Jordan's Yeah, he's elia this guy. Uh. Lastly, uh,

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Speaker 1: he'll never we get a bigger scrum Kevin Colbert, the

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Speaker 1: general manager of the Pittsburgh Steelers, than he had on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: And why, well, that's obvious. Antonio Brown is one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest stories or the biggest story of the off season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And again there's this interesting wrinkle Mr. Sessler to this

515
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Speaker 1: entire story that Antonio Brown goes on social media, uh,

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Speaker 1: sometimes sweating profusely during a workout and tells us how

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Speaker 1: he's moving on. It's been a great run. Here's a

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Speaker 1: highlight video, here's some copyrighted music, and I'm playing with it.

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Speaker 1: And and then the Steelers meet with him, and the

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Speaker 1: steel was like, yeah, it is it is time. I

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Speaker 1: think we should, you know, look into making a move

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Speaker 1: to ending this relationship. But Kevin Colbert said it again

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Speaker 1: today and I believe it. Like, listen, we'll trade Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: but if we don't get an offer that we think

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Speaker 1: is fair for the value, we'll just bring him back.

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Speaker 1: And what is Antonio Brown gonna do about it. He's

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Speaker 1: under contract. I think it's I think if Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: continue used to poison his own market and they can't

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Speaker 1: get the right value, the Steelers are better off holding

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Speaker 1: onto him. And he says, he said, people don't believe him,

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Speaker 1: but he's saying it's a real thing. We are willing

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Speaker 1: to keep this guy if we don't get the right

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers have put forward I think a good

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Speaker 1: front office example of not being wilting flowers with their

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Speaker 1: own players, and this was an example not to tread

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Speaker 1: on West's territory to come. I thought, of you learn

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Speaker 1: almost nothing from Kevin Colbert all but everyone's gonna retweet

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Speaker 1: and tweet the same stuff that we knew weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: The two things I thought that that that that I learned.

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Speaker 1: One number one, that they might bring them back, that

541
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Speaker 1: they they've discussed that before. But two he did say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was hands off a f C.

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Speaker 1: North and throwing the Patriots because there have been reports

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Speaker 1: about that that if one of those teams came and

545
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Speaker 1: blew them away, maybe that door would be open to

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Speaker 1: trade to one of those Do I think so? I

547
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Speaker 1: think that's their last resort. They want NFC, they want

548
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Speaker 1: the Packers, they want someone else. But it's another press

549
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Speaker 1: conference where I don't feel we learned too much about this.

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Speaker 1: That suation they just don't want to handle. He said

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Speaker 1: he would weigh that, and there was a report that

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Speaker 1: they'd prefer the NFC. So basically if if a division,

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Speaker 1: of course they would, but they if they would have

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Speaker 1: to kind of make up for And he did point

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Speaker 1: out the salary cap hit that they would take by trading,

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Speaker 1: and that that plays into it too, into the compensation

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Speaker 1: that they would need to get that that that he is,

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Speaker 1: in his words, an Tonio Brown is one of the

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Speaker 1: best players in the league, and we would need compensation

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Speaker 1: that reflects it. All right, gentlemen, let's uh so that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the bulky news um out of Wednesday. How

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Speaker 1: about some kind of takeaways, other kind of quick hit

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Speaker 1: type thoughts. Greg, get us going. You know, you wrote

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Speaker 1: your debrief, so you have a lot of things kicking

565
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Speaker 1: around that old Let's aw about Jason Garrett because I

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Speaker 1: was late in the day. First of all, I feel

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Speaker 1: bad for him. He's gonna have to answer that he's

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Speaker 1: on a contract year for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: And he was just like, I don't think about that

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Speaker 1: because Stephen Jones, we haven't talked about this in the podcast,

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Speaker 1: said this week that we all know that Garrett needs

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Speaker 1: to take that we all need to take the next step,

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Speaker 1: and that's what's reflected here. So I mean it is more.

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Speaker 1: And they made the playoffs this year, they even won

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Speaker 1: a game, so it's like they basically have to go

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl or else Jason Garrett's getting fired,

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00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: which is the super Bowl or he said, they have

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Speaker 1: to take the next step and they're not giving him

579
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Speaker 1: the contract and he's stuck answering this awkward question. But

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Speaker 1: the bigger news from it was that they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: cut Randy Gregory, and he also made it pretty clear

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Speaker 1: that shaan Lee is gonna have a future with that team.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like shan Lee's gonna take a big pay

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Speaker 1: cut and kind of be like the the veteran guy

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Speaker 1: who just stays around and Randy Gregory. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we talked about this on the last show. That's happened

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Speaker 1: since then. He violated well, there was a report going

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Speaker 1: into last season that he had a violation of the

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Speaker 1: Substance Abuse Policy and now, Uh, it's come out that

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Speaker 1: he's facing the indefinite indefinite suspension, which is huge because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna lose David Irving likely in free agency. Gregory,

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Speaker 1: I mean Marcus Lawrence. They got Marcus Lawrence who also

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Speaker 1: had that suspension. You would think is not going anywhere. Um,

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Speaker 1: although how to take away there? Um? Where do I

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Speaker 1: want to go? Brian Gunta guns the GM of the Packers,

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00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: there was a lot of west. This was something that

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Speaker 1: was grinding your gears last season with Mike McCarthy in

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Speaker 1: the Packers offense. Why isn't Aaron Jones have a definitive role?

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Speaker 1: Why does he disappear from the game plan? Why is

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Speaker 1: he sharing touches with inferior players? Well, the Packers have

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Speaker 1: an issue with his conditioning, and they they said, uh,

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Speaker 1: guna kun said today that needs to improve. Sheds a

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Speaker 1: little light potentially on the situation with his usage. No,

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Speaker 1: I've always liked Aaron Jones, but I always understood why

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Speaker 1: he didn't get more playing time. And it's not just

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Speaker 1: the conditioning. It's that he's not really good in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, and that's a big part of playing running

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Speaker 1: back in the NFL. But he's clearly by far their

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Speaker 1: best runner. I want to set you up West on

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Speaker 1: your top five lists at the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any other, uh takeaways besides besides I do.

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Speaker 1: If not for the uniforms, I'd be pretty excited for

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Speaker 1: the Bruce Arians In Tampa Bay, he said that going

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Speaker 1: into a job, this is the best collection of skill

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Speaker 1: players he's ever seen on a roster going into any

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Speaker 1: of the places he's been to. And I think we

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Speaker 1: were saying that throughout last season when Ryan Fitzpatrick was

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Speaker 1: going nuts earlier in the year, that they have so

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Speaker 1: much talent. They had a good play caller last year,

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Speaker 1: but I think they also have a little bit more

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Speaker 1: talent on defense than people think, and they just had

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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries last year. In bro I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna buy into jam It's Winston, but I'm buying into

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. They can also change those uniforms pretty soon, hopefully. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had a big takeaway from that to which is

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Speaker 1: they're not cutting de Sean Jackson. He met He said

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Speaker 1: he met with de Sean Jackson. He kind of got

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Speaker 1: him with the program. I think there's probably a slight

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Speaker 1: chance some team would give him a great offer that

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Speaker 1: maybe they would think about. But it, Sir, sounds like

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Speaker 1: they're just expecting to Sean Jackson to be on that team.

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Speaker 1: I have a Kangle takeaway for the last couple of

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Speaker 1: combines and league events. He's wearing uh Bruce Arians like

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Speaker 1: personalized cagles that had his logo. It was like a

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00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: logo of him. He got too big. I think maybe

636
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Speaker 1: it's cause Antonio Brown called him out, but now he

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Speaker 1: he kind of took it down a notch and it

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Speaker 1: just had the NFL shield on the back of the cangle,

639
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Speaker 1: so still personalized, but no longer. It was a little

640
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: extra to have like a cartoon version of himself on

641
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: the canggle and he's moved that up. That's the kind

642
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: of take that if you're home, you this was a

643
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: fashion observation that you had to be here to make that.

644
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: You didn't know. There's a lot of fashions of dollars

645
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: to send me here. There. There's a lot of fashion takes.

646
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a like if you're in the

647
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh Kyle Shanahan tree, you have to wear the

648
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: zip up sweater went the button down underneath. That's what

649
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: La Fleur was doing, That's what Zach Taylor was doing.

650
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Like that, that's the m O. And I do get

651
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: the sense with La Fleur. There's there's some packers. There's

652
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: some packers people out there. They're just kind of like, hey,

653
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: wake me up. When this press conference is over. This

654
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: guy needs a little more juice in front of the

655
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: more flair. Uh, Mark, give us something. I'll give you

656
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: a couple little nuggets here. Number one. Zach Taylor absolutely

657
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: looks to me like to for Grace Um. If they

658
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: ever come up with some sort of gigantic Bengals movie,

659
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: not expecting it to happen anytime soon, he could be

660
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: a double um. I saw Anthony Lynn in the elevator,

661
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: and he's just another coach that reminds you because I

662
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: thought Freddie Kitchens was probably like my height. Oh he

663
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: was a former Aliborma quarterback. But like every one of

664
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: these coaches almost are massive people. Ban they're huge. Zach

665
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: Taylor and Matt Lafloora who looked like they should be

666
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: asking this. Zach Taylor was like Grace. But I the

667
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: other thing is um the Bears, because I've been very

668
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: hard on the Bears. But one thing that I got

669
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: from Mattennege was that Ryan Pace and Matt Neegi they

670
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: gush over each other and they are so much on

671
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: the same page. And that may seem like, Okay, of

672
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: course they are no big deal, but I'd say two

673
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: thirds of the league don't have that between a coach

674
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: and GM. And then he just talked about how much

675
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: farther they are ahead right now working together than where

676
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: they were a year ago. So that's a little speculating

677
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: that they're in love with each other professionally. What you

678
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: got to ask questions? But that was an untoward question.

679
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I think from in terms of

680
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: they have a good working relationship. Okay, that's a question

681
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: that has to be asked. I mean a painful one

682
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: for their children to listen to. But yes, you're taking

683
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: a direct It doesn't need to carnal. Wow, what could be?

684
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: But he says, no, Um, give us another one. Let's wanted.

685
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to dive into this whole controversy on Twitter

686
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: that um Lakisha the paramore is really into Cliff Kingsbury's

687
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: voice and uh, and that that voice was putting West

688
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: to sleep. But but then a response from one of

689
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: our social media coordinators, Kendall, who does a great job

690
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: over Yeah, she was like that boys can put me

691
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to sleep. Any I had another. I had another female

692
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: text me out of the blue Sea. This guy had

693
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: not a modicum of personality or charisma during this whole

694
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: no charisma. However, he's boring the paint off the walls. West.

695
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: His fiance likes his voice, West coming hard after the man.

696
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with that. I just can't

697
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: think of anybody watching that and saying, hey, that's kind

698
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: of cooler hot, or well, put you sleep. He's got

699
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: couldn't even hear he's got a little bit of the

700
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: I think he's got a little bit of the low

701
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: key energy though. But some women like that. I think

702
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: it's confident. No, it's because they think he looks like

703
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling. That's there's just too much proof West that

704
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: a vast number of females disagree with you entirely on this.

705
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Can with that they can be wrong. Let me just

706
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: let me just say, first of all, Cliff Kings, it's

707
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: a nice resent to his voice, that's all. It's not

708
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: an amazing voice. How could you even hear it? I

709
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: was right next to him. But my point that my

710
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Kingsbury point is more a year ago. There's one team

711
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: that I felt was doomed when I was here, and

712
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: it was the Arizona Cardinals. And no, no offense to

713
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, although I'm sure he will take offense to

714
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: it if he heard this. Not that he does well.

715
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: He listens to every episode, I assume. But Wilkes just

716
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: seemed to be a guy who's in a tough spot.

717
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: You know, look at DJ. DJ is looking at us

718
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: to the glass. He's like to be on a popular podcast.

719
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Somebuddy um. Wilkes was a Wilkes was a guy that

720
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: seemed he had his back against the wall even when

721
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: he took the job Kingsbury. I don't know if he's

722
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a good coach or not, but he he

723
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: has that McVeigh easy confidence, and he didn't see it

724
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: seem overwhelmed. So if a Mccardinals fans, I like the

725
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: vibe he was giving off. He was in control. There's

726
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: always one coach. I'm with Dan. I agree. He didn't

727
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: call him a chewy pretzel just out of the oven.

728
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: He seemed he seemed locally. He it has been a

729
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: weird one. He Every year there's a coach or two

730
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: that that early on in their tenure as head coach.

731
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: They're like, why did I take the ninety five press conference?

732
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: And to me, Cliff Kingsbury was that guy. It's like

733
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: John Owey knows what he's doing. You can just I

734
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: can pencil it in next year. John always three forty

735
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: five pm or four four pm on Wednesday. He's taken

736
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: that last spot spot. He's not having to worry about,

737
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, getting up and looking good early. I think

738
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Kingsbury was feeling it this morning. That's my take. Um,

739
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: anybody got another one. My one thing is that this

740
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: is like the seventh or eighth time we've come to

741
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: this or various amounts each that the food situation is

742
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: a is an altra disaster, and I had by now

743
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: there's no excuse for me not to learn from it.

744
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: And once again I go into the fray at nine

745
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: am with nothing packed, and then there's like a lunch

746
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: upstairs that essentially will give twelve people heart attacks, and

747
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: then there's nowhere to get food entirely. I went back

748
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: to the room and got a low level salad for

749
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: forty dollars. I mean, what, how are we planning for

750
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: our day at this point? Um hanging thereybody. Next year,

751
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: I get to get to the food area, am, and

752
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: you're covered. Um Adam gaze. Uh you could tell, like

753
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: the big takeaway from his introductory press offerences that he

754
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: bombed it and he looked like spooked and his eyes

755
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: are all over the place. This was more Adam Gates

756
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: in his comfort zone. He was wearing a pull over,

757
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: uh sweater, he had his hat hat pulled down low

758
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: like he'll always have on the sideline, and he was

759
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: just talking football, just talking football and about his team.

760
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: And my takeaway now, and I'm always gonna skew optimistic

761
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, is that he was the reason

762
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: he performed so poorly in that introductory press conferences. That

763
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: is just not his thing. Being in a suit with

764
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the lights and everyone looking at him talking about being

765
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: hired is not his thing. He's more he's a football coach.

766
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: So I felt better. He seemed just comfortable today, which

767
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I kind of needed to see, to be honest with

768
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: you as a Jets fan. Uh. So that was my

769
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: gaze takeaway. That's fair, but it still could be a disaster.

770
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying this is there's

771
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: nothing viral about today's and I think you're right. But

772
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: there is part of me that like is using this

773
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: pop psychology that like that hat is like pulled over

774
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: so much over his face that he like needs this

775
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: like barrier between him and the media, you know what

776
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, like Ricky Williams in the helmet right

777
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, there's a little bit of that.

778
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: And and now so yeah, o K. Press conferences aren't

779
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: your thing, but you know, you are the New York

780
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: You're the New York, You're the New York Jets. But

781
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: it was it was a solid B B plus today.

782
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: We liked him, we should have him back. And and

783
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: Mark I won Freddie Kitchen's take, it's more a Brown's

784
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: organizations that telling me you signed Kareem Hunt to make

785
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: him a better person. Well, all right, I don't know

786
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: what else he was. I think he was asked the

787
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: question five different ways and did the best he could

788
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: with you know, he didn't sign the player, and he

789
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: asked to explain the fact that the general manager you know,

790
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: knows him better than anyone and it's impossible to come

791
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: out of that without a large maturity of people saying

792
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: whatever you say, you're wrong. Did say one interesting thing

793
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: to me that he that rereem hunt has he hasn't

794
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: even gotten a second chance yet, so they're making it,

795
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: but they're stating that he needs to do all these

796
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: things right behind the scenes to even get a chance.

797
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe that, but that was

798
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that they're not even they're not even

799
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: going as far as saying he's definitely on the time.

800
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: I think it's fine, Like wherever you like, I'm able

801
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: to say. I just don't like that they added him,

802
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: and you can give it any answer you want. I

803
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: don't care what the spin is. I found it interesting

804
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: Chris Career, the Dolphins GM really shot down the Xavian

805
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Howard trade rumors, So that was just something that had

806
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of been on your mind. And know Chris, like

807
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: why would they trade him? And he he was very

808
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: strong and just saying he's he's got to be on

809
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: our team. So I think I don't know where that

810
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: came from or if that's a possibility. He was not

811
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: too strong on Cameron wake coming back, but but did

812
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: sound like they were going to really try to make

813
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: an effort to keep John James, who was a big

814
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: right tackle who's supposed to get Now I'm maybe like

815
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen million dollars. The Bengals did the same with

816
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: John Ross, and part of me is like, why would

817
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: you even waste of breath telling anyone that you are

818
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: thinking about trading someone and then suddenly their value plummets

819
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: like a rock crashing through the floor. I mean just say,

820
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: of course, not we valued this guy? Get to come. Well,

821
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: he called that report by Ian fake news. I mean

822
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: he went global somewhere right. That is a weird one

823
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: where maybe there's someone in Ross's camp that's trying to

824
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: get him traded, and that the team doesn't necessarily agree,

825
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: which he said. Strange reminder if that is true. Two

826
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: years ago in this building he set the all time

827
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: forty record. If the Bengals are already looking to trade

828
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: him a Titanic draft mistake, well yeah absolutely? Uh? Mark

829
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: one final thing on Freddie Kitchens. Mark, Now, this is

830
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: a guy who was comfortable in control, showed charisma and

831
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: gay thoughtful intelligent answer. All right, any other thoughts, I

832
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: will say one more thing. Okay, the last two years, Uh,

833
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: in this very um, at this venue. We've seen reports

834
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: about Johnny Manzel, his agent leaking to different media people

835
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: that he is on the verge of a comeback and

836
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams interested in him. Well

837
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: this year, I just found it ironic that on this

838
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: very day, instead of that being the report, the report

839
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: is that the Toronto Alouettes released him under hazy circumstances

840
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Montreal Alouis. My apologies to Canada UM, but I just

841
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: thought that was an interesting bow potentially on his career

842
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: that on this day he gets cut by UM Montreal

843
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: under questionable. I mean, do you think that general manager

844
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: was glad he's not here being asked? But why they

845
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: gave to CFL first round? I know what a CFL

846
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: first round draft pick gets you? Yeahs? You know whom

847
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: is Well? I don't know if he's a GM, but

848
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: he's the head coach. Don't quiz me on the Mike Sherman.

849
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, not some respect on the Aloette's name.

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Speaker 1: Seven time Great Cup champion, big time well thought. Uh

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores. I have high hopes for him. I've been

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Speaker 1: really impressed by him, but he we're never going to

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Speaker 1: get an interesting answer or press conference or any kind

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: of straight answer out of him. He's straight out of

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Speaker 1: the Belichick tree, and he obfuse skates everything he says.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting. He's boring as can be, and he's

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Speaker 1: just not gonna answer any questions. Well he's learned. Well, yeah, alright, West,

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Speaker 1: anybody else, let's get before we go, Um West, you

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Speaker 1: you you know, listen, this is not a good event

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Speaker 1: for Wes. Wes is here because he's a professional, but

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Speaker 1: does he want to be here? Not? Not particularly, And

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Speaker 1: when he walks into that press conference room, something start

863
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Speaker 1: rinding his gears. So he's gonna share with us. What

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Speaker 1: would this? Speed? West? A top five? What top five

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Speaker 1: most annoying people at the NFL combine? All right, I

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Speaker 1: like this kind of like West, you're kidding me. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He's gotta workshop. Al right, West, So let's

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Speaker 1: start with number five. The guy who joins the scrum

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Speaker 1: late shouts over everyone else and asked a question that

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Speaker 1: was answered four minutes ago. Oh my god. During the

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Speaker 1: um Adam Gaves press conference, three jibrones asked about Chris

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Speaker 1: herndon the tight end, and after the third one, everyone

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Speaker 1: was just like bro come on, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: oh sorry, what about Quincy and nonwa But at least

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Speaker 1: he bailed out of the question. Here's my theory on it.

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Speaker 1: Don't ask a question. It's a fifteen minute availability. If

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Speaker 1: you're not if you show up seven minutes in, listen,

878
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: you just gotta listen at you, you spy. A veteran

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00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: beat reporter asked if this has been because this is

880
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: and we've said this before. I don't want to step

881
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: on your point, so I won't. I won't go into

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00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: it further. But there's only fifteen minutes that all these

883
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Speaker 1: journalists are getting. There's some side scrums of course as well,

884
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Speaker 1: where beat writers get the chance to ask more questions.

885
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: But when people start wasting questions and time, it's annoying.

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Speaker 1: West Number four the tape heg guy who tries to

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Speaker 1: impress the head coach or GM with a late February

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Speaker 1: February question about a defensive lineman's technique. Well, I feel

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00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: like you could name drop here, um, because it seems

890
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: to be the same three or four people every year

891
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: that do this. But um, anyone that's here knows who

892
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Speaker 1: those people are. Maybe there's a new generation coming up.

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Speaker 1: Number three don't come up. That's that's annoying. Number three

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Speaker 1: the guy who monopolizes the whole ridiculous Q and A

895
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: format which is like teacher and students with a rapid

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00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: fire sequence of questions solely related to the feature in

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Speaker 1: which he's shoe warning the quotes to fit a narrative

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Speaker 1: he's already generated. That was the point I did not

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Speaker 1: want to step on because I figured it was on

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Speaker 1: your list. That is the worst. It's like, bro, we

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00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: we can tell what feature you're writing. This is way

902
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: different than say a Lions beat writer asking Seahawks GM

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Speaker 1: John Schneider, for example, what are we getting in Darryl

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Speaker 1: Bevil who you had in? That's a useful question. This

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00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: is more like I heard something about the a f

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Speaker 1: C West fourteen different times today. Right. Number two, the

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Speaker 1: guy who asked all the new new gms and coaches,

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Speaker 1: what's it like? Quote on a personal level, to be

909
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: at the podium for the first time in your career.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a lot out of that. Yeah,

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00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: it's just not get You're not getting anything out of it.

912
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: You're not gonna learn much about the man. Hey, how's

913
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: it going like? That's that's literally a question sometimes like

914
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: how's how's your week? How's your week going? All right, Ricky,

915
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Speaker 1: give us a little drum roll here as we go

916
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: to number one reason why, number one thing at a

917
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: noise West at the scouting combine. Hit it, buddy. This

918
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: is the fallout from the combine, the Twitter conspiracy theorist

919
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: who trumpets v translation from on High for a simple

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Speaker 1: direct quote translation translation cooling, I really, I really believe

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Speaker 1: Derek corson franchise quarterback translation raider, trying to build his value,

922
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Speaker 1: saying a little presumptive. You're saying, yeah, I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: he gave you a simple direct quote. I really believe

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Speaker 1: he's franchise qu I truly believe he's a franchise translation.

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00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: He can't possibly believe it, though, I think that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm with the West. I'm trying to think, when did

927
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Speaker 1: I do that? I've done some translations. Ricky's saying, that's right, yeah,

928
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Speaker 1: I think on Jerry Jones saying that they need to

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Speaker 1: take the next step. That was a translation. I mean

930
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: one soft one soft counterpoint is that of these people

931
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Speaker 1: are lying. Right, We've we spent the first twenty minutes

932
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Speaker 1: kind of doing our own version of translation, but it

933
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: is annoying on Twitter. Doesn't translation usually come into effect

934
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Speaker 1: when you have a confusing no statement rather in a direct,

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Speaker 1: simple states super clear statement. Here, I see, I'm just

936
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Speaker 1: gonna recraft it to say what I wanted to say?

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Speaker 1: All right, Can I add one? Can add one? How

938
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: about the guy who uses like the nickname? Okay, here

939
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: here's the example. There's a packers writer today who is

940
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: asking Matt la Fleur a question and he and he says, so,

941
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: is that your responsibility, Matt, or is that something Goody's

942
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna handle? And he's talking about Brian Goody Kunst And

943
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: it's like, now you don't call him Goody. I mean

944
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: maybe we should call start calling him Goody. I don't know,

945
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: But like, now in that setting that that was just untoward.

946
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: There's there's a boss in our company. I won't say

947
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: who it is because I could get fired. But he

948
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: goes by the nickname. But I was told, hey, don't

949
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: call him by the nickname. He only lets people that

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00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: he really understood that that he knows and in the

951
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: circle call him by the nickname. It's not the same thing,

952
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: but it's similar. It's like, don't don't do it unless

953
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: you're you know, in the click right, You're just there's

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00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: a lot of ego floating around here. Right, It's like, hey,

955
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: like we're you know, we're me and Goody. We're all

956
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna be out slapping back beers later. It's a good nickname. Uh,

957
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: speaking of slapping back beers. What are we doing tonight?

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00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting in some trouble, getting a mess? What are

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00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: we up to? Donet crickets? I don't know. I'll join you,

960
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: and you're going out. Of these old folks, these forty somethings,

961
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Speaker 1: or if they're not going out, I'm going out with you.

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00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: Millennials are going out. Are hardly a millennia. Younger Zeusa,

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00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: Eddie Spaghetti, Ricky Hollywood, Kent Brown. Wait, who's the younger Zeus?

964
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: That's me my thirties. We're kids. We have so much

965
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: ahead of us, right right, We got a long night,

966
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: all right, Now we'll go. We'll have about some beers.

967
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: I have a couple of drinks, Mark, a couple of Shardonnay's. Well,

968
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: have some fun. I will join you with these ages

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00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: um hits all night long, settled down on that salt

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00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: and pepper fair enough um, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Good show. We'll be back. We're gonna check

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Speaker 1: out all the presses tomorrow and then you'll have a

973
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Speaker 1: show to you early Friday morning. Maybe we'll have a guest.

974
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Speaker 1: We also have the Twitter Show tomorrow for thirty Eastern

975
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: one thirty Pacific, so check that out. That's live or

976
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Twitter feeds will have all that info. And that's it.

977
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Speaker 1: I think salt and pepper hair is not a bad

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Speaker 1: thing to have. I'm just saying you're the idea that

979
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Speaker 1: when someone thinks of millennial. I don't think that you

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Speaker 1: are necessarily the first image of my thirties. What can

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Speaker 1: I say? Dan hands for a quiet storm, the mailman,

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Speaker 1: the old Boston recalled Tail Friday