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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're also announcing our

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Speaker 1: upcoming album, It's Me and Your Man MG. Markus is

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Speaker 1: grand joined by Michael f. Florio and Lakwan Jones and Laqwan.

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Speaker 1: I just have to start with the question, why do

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Speaker 1: you look like you've got in a cartoon brawl?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I got stopped today by Seth's freaking roll and some

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Speaker 3: good morning football this morning, very very early in the

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Speaker 3: morning today. This is how my day is starting right

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Speaker 3: here with a stop moon from seth freaking' roll.

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Speaker 2: Stop.

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Speaker 1: You did actually put together pretty fire video of Seth

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Speaker 1: being in studio at GMFB. It's floating around on the

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Speaker 1: socials right now. But I love the fact that your

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Speaker 1: k fabe is taking two band aids and putting them

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Speaker 1: in an X on the side of your like like

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Speaker 1: you lost video punch out or something.

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Speaker 2: You Roan Rens. You got a lot common now see

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Speaker 2: him punk too.

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Speaker 3: And my wife wasn't very happy about how Steph Rown's

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Speaker 3: actually acquired that belt. So yeah, the wife was a

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Speaker 3: little so.

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Speaker 1: Then you so you get stomped out. His punishment that doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Because I tried to confront him about it and like,

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Speaker 3: you know, be my wife's honor, you know, and then

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Speaker 3: ended up with me getting stopped in it.

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Speaker 1: Get your head dribbled like it said Spaulding on it

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Speaker 1: great anyway, like Travis Hunter, like Travis Hunter, Wick calib

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Speaker 1: Johnson in preseason. But that's fair, all right. We have

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Speaker 1: preseason week two coming up. We're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 1: handful of the games, not every single one, but we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about some things, some questions that we feel like

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Speaker 1: we may have, and maybe some guys that we are

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on. But first, a couple of news

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Speaker 1: headlines to dive into. One in Kansas City just broke

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple hours before we started doing this show.

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Speaker 1: Rashi Rice is scheduled to have a discipline hearing on

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Speaker 1: September thirtieth. Now the date is significant because that is

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Speaker 1: after week four. We're all expecting at some point that

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Speaker 1: Rice is going to be disciplined, that he is going

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Speaker 1: to be suspended for his traffic shall we say no

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Speaker 1: nos from a couple of years ago, I mean Florie,

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Speaker 1: knowing that we're gonna go well into the season before

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Speaker 1: the hearing even happens. But knowing that there's still potentially

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Speaker 1: an end season suspension coming, how do you approach Russhi

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Speaker 1: Rice in drafts?

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Speaker 2: He's he's gonna and look, I wanted to be a

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Speaker 2: Rashi Rice guy this year, but with this, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have to start falling. Like right now, his ADP's in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. There's no way I'm taking him in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. I think he'd have to fall to

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Speaker 2: like the sixth seventh round, and I'm not expecting that.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if I'm gonna have a lot

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Speaker 2: of Rashi Rice. The issue is the first couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks he's gonna be out there, but those are gonna

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Speaker 2: be his first games back from a knee injury. So

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Speaker 2: if it takes him a couple of games to look

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Speaker 2: like Rashie Rice again, once he starts to get back

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Speaker 2: into the swing of things, he could be taken from you.

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Speaker 2: This is a lot like the Ezekiel Elliott situation. I

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Speaker 2: know this at this point, it's like six seven years ago,

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Speaker 2: but he got suspended for eight games in the middle

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Speaker 2: of this season. And that is my fear with Rashid

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Speaker 2: gonna pass on Rashi Rice, but it makes me want

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Speaker 2: to get in on Xavier Worthy. Like when I do

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Speaker 2: my ranking update today, Worthy will probably leap frog Rice

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Speaker 1: So lakwan two Florio's point, Rice's ADP is going to fall.

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Speaker 1: We're not really sure how far it's gonna fall, how

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Speaker 1: much people are going to back off of him. So hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: is there a round he could fall two that would

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Speaker 3: Probably that sixth seventh round, Like this is where the

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Speaker 3: Fantasy playoffs, I want to be able to say I

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Speaker 3: he'll come back, like I would say after the eight

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Speaker 3: he gets that eight game max, and then he will

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Speaker 3: returned back in Week thirteen against Dallas, which I think

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Speaker 3: it's a favorable matchup. And I do think that the

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Speaker 1: So my immediate concerns are, I mean, hopefully ideally he

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Speaker 1: has the hearing on September thirtieth, and that the league

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Speaker 1: makes a decision shortly thereafter, right, that they don't drag

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Speaker 1: this out for another week or so, because then you're

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Speaker 1: talking about after week five, then you're talking about serving

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Speaker 1: a suspension. The other big problem is that few, if

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Speaker 1: any fantasy leagues have a suspension slot. Right, you got

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Speaker 1: an ir slot where a guy is hurt and uninjured reserve.

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Speaker 1: You could put a guy there and you know, go

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Speaker 1: and get somebody else off the waiver wire and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't count against your roster spots. If Rashi Rice is

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Speaker 1: suspended and you've drafted him, you're just holding a spot

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Speaker 1: for him for however many weeks. And yeah, if everything

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Speaker 1: it's not a big deal to just sit there and

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Speaker 1: We know that ain't life, right. We know that unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get hurt. Somebody is just not going to

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Speaker 1: pan out the way you thought in the preseason. You're

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Speaker 1: going to have to make waiver wire moves. And that's

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Speaker 1: when after holding on to Rice for three weeks, four weeks,

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Speaker 1: out to be Throshet Rice. We thought he could be.

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Speaker 2: A big difference real quick. Is to your point, Margus,

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Speaker 2: like buys are weeks five through fourteen. When a player

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Speaker 2: those early weeks because there's no buys, but those bench

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Speaker 3: Whoever drafted Rice in the leagues that I am, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, you should just drop him, man.

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Speaker 2: Just drop zombie on your bench. Trade dirty, try to

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Speaker 3: Charity this year. I'm being so dirty this year in

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Speaker 1: Know because inevitably there's gonna be somebody who's sitting there

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Speaker 1: And that's when you can be like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you can get me. Rashi Rice helped me down

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Speaker 1: the playoffs stretch. So yeah, for sure, I'm in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals offensive coordinator saying Chase Brown is a top ten

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Speaker 1: Lakwan Jones, are we undervaluing Chase Brown based on the

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Speaker 1: opinion of Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator Damn Pitcher.

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Speaker 2: I think we are.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like we are like doing it on

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Speaker 3: a Chan, Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker, and like I do

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Speaker 3: think when it comes to rankings, like I looked at

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Speaker 3: need to move him up because we're looking at a

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Speaker 3: guy that was on pace from week nine and on

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Speaker 3: thirteen hundred yards. If he stayed with that same energy,

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Speaker 3: with that same usage, and like from week nine and on,

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Speaker 3: he was the RB four, averaging twenty Fantasy points per game.

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Speaker 3: So how I'm looking at this is like, hey, this

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Speaker 1: Florida, I know you talked up Chase Brown on Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Live on Thursday. I know you like him. Are you

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Speaker 1: willing to put him in your Do you have him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in my top ten. He's my RB nine

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Speaker 2: as of right now, and I've been considering pushing him up.

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Speaker 2: The names just ahead of him are like cmc Ashton

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Speaker 2: like it took him like about a month to take

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Speaker 2: I think you can make him a top ten running

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Speaker 1: I feel like the longer the Trey Hendrickson situation goes on,

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Speaker 1: the more the Bengals offensive players are rising in ADP. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, because I think even with Hendrickson, the Bengals

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Speaker 1: he's there, no, he's gonna get out of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get pressures, he's gonna get sacks, and maybe

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Speaker 1: This defense is gonna get shredded. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the reason, like Chase Brown is rising. I mean, Jamar

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Speaker 1: can't get me higher than that. But to Higgins, I

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Speaker 1: feel like his ADP is coming up. I just feel

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Speaker 1: like everybody's just like, you know what.

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Speaker 2: It go to Key looked like Tom Brady and was like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Yeah, they're going to have to score.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And it doesn't help, you know, with Shamir

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Speaker 3: Stewart uh tackling or making contact with Burrows. So there

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Speaker 3: was a whole scrap about that. Did you guys see that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any I haven't seen any video, but

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Speaker 1: I have read stories. Achise, Yeah, no, I man, no,

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Speaker 1: you do not do not touch the franchise. You do

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Speaker 1: not do that. So hopefully hopefully Stewart learned his lesson

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Speaker 1: over that one. Start diving into some of these Week

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Speaker 1: two of the preseason previews. Now look understanding it's week

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Speaker 2: the credit, because especially you, Lacan, I know you've been

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Speaker 2: on Daniel Jones higher than really anyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you love you love Daniel. Is this

434
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: a Jones thing? You got to stand up for the Joneses.

435
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Speaker 2: It's a Jersey. Jones is going down with the ship.

436
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: Riol is going down with the ship.

437
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Speaker 1: Bro.

438
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Speaker 3: I cannot get behind that. I just can't. It's gonna

439
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: be Daniel Jones man. That has to be at this

440
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 3: point because he cannot stay healthy. If he gets injured

441
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: in this game, just sign it off, pack it up, chief,

442
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: go ahead and clock out like it's it's going to

443
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: be a rap, Like this is his last chance to

444
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: be real, Like this is the last chance in a

445
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: preseason game in week two for Anthony Richson to step

446
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 3: up and show up and show out. We've been waiting

447
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: for this. Just put something out there that we could

448
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Speaker 3: just be cool, calm and collected going into Week one

449
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Speaker 3: having a healthy Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson debate. Okay,

450
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Speaker 3: that's all I got.

451
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Speaker 2: What's it say though? If a guy who can't stay

452
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Speaker 2: held was reportedly beating the other guy, you know, like,

453
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: imagine if he gets the rest, he's a liability out

454
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Speaker 2: there if he can't protect hisself.

455
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 3: Like, man, that hit was brutal, Like he came up

456
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: throwing up gang if he gets hurt.

457
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: Like but but if he gets hurt, you're exactly where

458
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Speaker 2: you already would be if you start Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: I look, I'm I'm not gonna sit here and pretend

460
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: that like this is like a high level court. Part

461
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Speaker 1: of the reason it is an interesting quarterback competition is

462
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Speaker 1: because there's two guys who are sort of at the

463
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Speaker 1: same level. One we've seen. I think we've seen the

464
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Speaker 1: best of Daniel Jones, right that season. He had a

465
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago that got him paid. We've seen

466
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Speaker 1: the best of Daniel Jones. We still believe in Anthony

467
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Speaker 1: Richardson's potential, just he hasn't really come close to showing it.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like the race to see who's

469
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Speaker 1: the fastest turtle, right, Like you might be the fastest turtle.

470
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Speaker 2: But you're still not Turtles are fast.

471
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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Thursday night. The turtle races at Brendan's tonight.

472
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Speaker 1: Everybody's meat down there. Let's go, let's go check out.

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Speaker 2: The thing about real quick. Like Daniel Jones' best season

474
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: was thirty two hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns, Like this

475
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Speaker 2: says not great.

476
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Speaker 3: He's shown us something that Anthony Richardson has not shown

477
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Speaker 3: us yet.

478
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Speaker 2: Upside.

479
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: We saw the upside in his rushing upside there availability

480
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: the US seasons was the top twelve quarterback, top ten.

481
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson upside was way higher and feel like if

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Speaker 3: he could stay on the field.

483
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Speaker 1: The Daniel Jones top twelve fantasies. There are some seasons

484
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Speaker 1: that are just outliers where we'll look back here like this,

485
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Speaker 1: you know the jamis thirty for thirty season, right, like

486
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Speaker 1: that's an outlier. The fact that he was still a

487
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Speaker 1: top five quarterback or whatever it was like that that

488
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Speaker 1: that radicalized me against current quarterback scoring, like that shouldn't happened.

489
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Speaker 1: There was the year I'd have to look it up.

490
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: There was the year where Jason Witten was like a

491
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Speaker 1: top ten tight end when all he did was catch

492
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Speaker 1: the ball and fall down like that's it. Like there

493
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Speaker 1: are just those seasons where like we looked back and like, okay,

494
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Speaker 1: yeah you finished in the top ten or top twelve,

495
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Speaker 1: but like did you really though? Did you really?

496
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Speaker 3: We keep saying that for Anthony Richardson, but that has

497
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Speaker 3: yet to happen, is my point though, Like the same

498
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Speaker 3: upside that we're looking for for Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones

499
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 3: has done that. He's done it for us already, Like

500
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Speaker 3: we know what he is capable of, and he's in

501
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Speaker 3: a situation where his legs are his weapons. And I

502
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 3: think that deep ball only helps Michael Pittman, it only

503
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Speaker 3: helps A. D Mitchell, only helps Alex Pearce, it only

504
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: helps Shosh Downs as well.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a deep ball.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Daniel Jones has a upside deep ball. There

507
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Speaker 3: was an opportunity in twenty twenty two.

508
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Speaker 2: Not better than Anthony Richardson.

509
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Speaker 1: You keep saying the word no, No, I don't think that

510
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: means I think I think that word means what you

511
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Speaker 1: think it means, Like there's no, I don't think there's

512
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Speaker 1: a floor play. In my opinion, Yeah, he's the floor play.

513
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Speaker 1: He's not an upside play. There's no upside there, there is.

514
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Speaker 2: There is no What does outside of accuracy, what does

515
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones do better than Anthony Richardson on the football field.

516
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a stronger arms.

517
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: But again, availability and upside are two very different things.

518
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: And and right now and that's fine, but don't confuse

519
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: that with upside. Anthony Richardson has upside. Daniel Jones has

520
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: perfect attendance.

521
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman or Tyler Warren? Manager, when do you want

522
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones as your starter? Should be the conversation. It's

523
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: not about the actual quarterback competition. Who do we want

524
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren? Who do we want Josh Allas or Michael

525
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: Pittman to score us fantasy points on Sunday?

526
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Speaker 1: Don't just.

527
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: Floating. It's not sinking.

528
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: His boat may be all banged up, you know what,

529
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: band aids like holding it up, the bloating the water.

530
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: But at the same time, there is opportunity there for benefit,

531
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: like for us as managers for the wide receivers.

532
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is the architect of the Wandell Robinson like

533
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: a million targets for five hundred yards season is a guy.

534
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Speaker 1: That's why, LaQuan, that's not the flex you think it is.

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00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: I really didn't think we're gonna have this line of

536
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: a conversation about the Colts quarterback situation. And I'm sorry

537
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: that I walked this down that path. That's my fault.

538
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I may be about to do it again.

539
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I have no idea where this conversation is gonna go,

540
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking out there, uh, Patriots at the Vikings

541
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: a lot of hype around JJ McCarthy, and look, I

542
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I was sort of pleased to see what he did

543
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: last week. Not necessarily because I'm in on drafting JJ

544
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: McCarthy because I think he's gonna be meh in year

545
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: one and you'll just be frustrated, But I think what

546
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: it means potentially for the guys around him. Uh, Lakwan

547
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: refreshed my memory. You're in on JJ McCarthy. Is there

548
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: anything else you need to see from him this week?

549
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: Not really like I feel like we need to worry

550
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: about his health because like it's getting to this point

551
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: now where injuries are starting to build up, and you know,

552
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: our guys are out there, they're doing all these amazing,

553
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: you know things on the practice fields like Treveon Henderson

554
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: like every beat reporter every ten seconds, and even with

555
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy, you know, going against Brian Flores is like

556
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 3: chaotic defense. So it's like all these things are starting

557
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: to build up where I just, you know, build this

558
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: chemistry in front of us in pre season, but with

559
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: Jefferson banged up right now, we're not going to be

560
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: able to see that, So it's not much I want

561
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: to see right now. Further from JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Are you willing Florio to take JJ McCarthy, like in

563
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: a redraft like two quarterback leagues? Yeah, I'm sure, Like

564
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: would you take if you decide to take two quarterbacks,

565
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: would you draft JJ.

566
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Speaker 2: McCarthy, Yeah, I think he brings enough upside, Like after

567
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: seeing Sam Darnold finish as a QB one in this system,

568
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: it's not about me loving JJ, right, it's about me

569
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: loving koc and and the weapons in this system. But uh,

570
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: it would have to be a specific build, right, Like

571
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Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd want to pair him, would

572
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: say like a justin fields because that doesn't really feel

573
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: like there's enough floor there. But like say, if my

574
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Speaker 2: QB one was someone that I felt good about the floor.

575
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: Then I'm throwing an upside dart on JJ McCarty.

576
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Speaker 1: The word of the day is upside.

577
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: That's a good movie with Kevin Hart.

578
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: I had no idea, trust I trust I never seen it.

579
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I just had to take your word for it. Uh,

580
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: Chargers at Rams, Chargers at Rams. I'm I'm asking you this, Lakwan,

581
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: because this feels this feels like something you'd be into,

582
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: not about the Rams. Should we be paying attentions to

583
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: Arondez gadst in the se because this feels like and

584
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Speaker 1: by way, our producer Gavin who's a big Chargers fans,

585
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: he's paying Atten to know what you're about to say.

586
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: Yes, the beaver borters love him, and you see on

587
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: Twitter the fantasy streets his name pops up every now

588
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: and again making big plays. And then I'm in on

589
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: him too. I think that with Will Ditsley there, Tyler Conklin, like,

590
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: we know who these guys are. But I think some

591
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: folks you know, might want to add him to the

592
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: watch list like in re draft leagues. I don't think

593
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: he's going to make like a media impact, but gradually

594
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: as the season goes on, you might see him make

595
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: more flashes, get more opportunity on the field. So that's

596
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: just how I'm looking at him right now this year.

597
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: But I am in dynasty heavily invested because like he

598
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: was going in the fourth round and most of these drafts,

599
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Speaker 3: and I think that's a great value for the upside

600
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Speaker 3: that he's in an offense where a tight end can

601
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Speaker 3: be fantasy relevant.

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Speaker 1: All right, I don't I mean that all sounds kind

603
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: of right, like you're just you're you're drafting and stashing

604
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: and seeing what comes about. I mean, I think that's

605
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: really all it is with Gadstan Maybe the more pressing

606
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: issue u Florio. People love a mari and Hampton. I've

607
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: said this whole time that I'm just not I'm not

608
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: in on him at ADP because I kept saying, Naji

609
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Harris still walks the earth.

610
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: Now.

611
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: I know, obviously he had the fourth of July incident.

612
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: He's putting that snapchat videos where maybe one eye is

613
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: squinting in clothes, maybe the sun is in his eyes,

614
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: or maybe he's still yeah, on a pirate track. I

615
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: don't know.

616
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Me and him are going down with that shit together.

617
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Yes, So I've been saying, I was like, look, Naji

618
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Harris is going to come back, He's going to play,

619
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Speaker 1: He's going to take opportunities away from Omari and Hampton,

620
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: and everybody's getting feel just unfulfilled. Greg Roman seemed to

621
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: verify that. He seemed to validate that when he said

622
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a rotation no matter what in fact

623
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: he said the days he said that the one running

624
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: back team or one running back offense is becoming like

625
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a prehistoric creature. Knowing that, are you still okay with

626
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Amar and Hampton in the fourth round?

627
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually coming around to Hampton because my fear

628
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: was Naji Harris, just like you and I thought early

629
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: in the year Naji would have a big role and

630
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: as the season went on he would Hampton and his

631
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: talent would win out over time. But if Nase's not

632
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: ready to start the year, that gives Hampton a runway

633
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: to just kind of become the firm RB one here. Now.

634
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: I do think there will be a rotation because every

635
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: team uses some combination of that nowadays. But if Harris

636
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: isn't ready for week one, the backup running backs are

637
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: who's who will People we thought would be good in

638
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: fantasy from the past, like Kamani Videll, Hassan Hoskins, stuff

639
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: like that. Like, none of those guys are eating into

640
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: the workload enough to ding Hampton, so getting him as

641
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: an RB two I love Rockett Sanders or Anderson, but

642
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: if he goes a little after him, I think that's

643
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: a perfect value.

644
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: All right, RB three, Jones, make your case for Rocket Sanders. Listen,

645
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: that is cool.

646
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: I think the AP is going to skyrocket after this

647
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: next preseason game. But I do think that, you know,

648
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm taking the words, yeah boom, yeah, you got that.

649
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: I'm taking Greg Rouman's words because again, I do think

650
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: like he wants to keep his young running backs motivated

651
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: right now. So it's still camp, it's still preseason, so

652
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to say, yeah, the RB one job

653
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: or the RB two job is locked up one hundred percent.

654
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: But I do think there is some truth to that

655
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: because this offense has shown this last year. I mean

656
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: signing JK. Dobbins, signing Gus Edwards. So now they draftomre

657
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: in Hampton, they get their cells and naj hairs. So

658
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: the plan for the one two punch was already there existing,

659
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: So I do think like him getting this ADP where

660
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: he's going in the fourth round is kind of nasty.

661
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm smiling and grinning when I'm able

662
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: to get a tray Von Henderson around later, or even

663
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: a R. J. Harvey, who I think is going to

664
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: overleave Hampton as well. So I do think folks need

665
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: to just chill out by streets are a little too

666
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: crazy right now.

667
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I guess. Mostly I think for me

668
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: it's because that's been Hampton's a d P the whole

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00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: time pretty much. It feels like it hasn't really shifted

670
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: a whole lot, like everybody just decided yep, O'marion Hampton

671
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. That's just that's just what we're

672
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: doing this summer. So I don't know.

673
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

674
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Also, Roy Roggy Ishmael is the only rocket I recognize.

675
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Just put that.

676
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is.

677
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Go look him up, man.

678
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no wait, I thought I thought you

679
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: were going a different rocket there.

680
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, rocket raccoon.

681
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: No.

682
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Just go look up Roggy Ishmael highlight.

683
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: And you were using it and I would know the name.

684
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: Check out.

685
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: He was what we want a heisman trophy, I think

686
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame he was amazing. He was a great

687
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver, putt returner.

688
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: I only know Mantai and Kyron and Brady Quinn that

689
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: went to Notre Dame. I'm sorry, that's just how the

690
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: memory bank is just there with those three.

691
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a break,

692
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna wrestle with my own mortality.

693
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We're talking about a few more

694
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: preseason games, and then I'm gonna go burn my birth certificates.

695
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Nobody knows how old I am. Stick around for more

696
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. I spent the break watching

697
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: brocket Ishmael highlights just to make me feel better about

698
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: my I don't even like Notre Dame football, and you

699
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: got me defending a Notre Dame football. My USC bona

700
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: fides are in trouble. Now. They're gonna make me hand

701
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: in my Trojan football card. This is a shame anyway.

702
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Jetson Giants Battle of the Meadowlands NFL Networking see that

703
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: game on Saturday at four pm Eastern time. LaQuan should

704
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: Jackson dark get a real shot to be the QB

705
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: one for the Giants.

706
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: No because I want It'll sound commident about that. I

707
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: do think like in preseason we got a little taste

708
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: of what he could bring to the table. Like I'm cool, like,

709
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: all right, let me see preseason, Like I'll come around

710
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: to it. But I kind of want Russell Wilson to

711
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: cook because like we know, when the kitchen clothes and

712
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: the recipe starts tasting a little weird. But I do

713
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: feel like Russell Wilson get me those high spike weeks

714
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: with Milik Neighbors on that deep ball. I do think

715
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: I want that because, like I said, I'm willing to

716
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: reach on Milak Neighbors. If I'm at the one oh five,

717
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: I'm ready to take them off the field board. If

718
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: CD's gone, you know, obviously a Bajon's gone, and I'm

719
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: just like all in on Malik Neighbors in this Russell

720
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: Wilson connection just to start the season.

721
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Are we sure Florio that the Russ deep ball, that

722
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: the moon ball is still there? Because I'm looking. I'm

723
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: looking at his game logs from last year and starting

724
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: in Week fourteen, these were his yards per attempt six

725
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: point one five point eight, six point six, five point five,

726
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: four point eight That that doesn't sound very moonballish to me, Like,

727
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: are we sure that still exists?

728
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: For us? It might not be what it once was,

729
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: but it's otherworldly compared to what the Giants quarterbacks were

730
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: last year. Like I put out an article on nfl

731
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: dot com top ten league winners, and Elik Neighbors is

732
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: number one, and the reason is largely because of the

733
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: deep ball. Because last year Russ had a forty six

734
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: percent success rate on the deep ball might not be

735
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: what it was in his prime. Giants quarterbacks as a

736
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: whole had a twenty percent success rate. The rating is

737
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: more than double. The completion percentage more than double. The

738
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: EPA is like quadruple, Like it's off the charts. How

739
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: much better Russ is than everyone that was throwing the

740
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 2: deep ball last year? And the thing I like about

741
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: this situation is Jackson Dart has a strong arm as well.

742
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston we know is the king maker, So even

743
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: if something happened to Russ, there's options there that should

744
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: only help. I'm yeah, I absolutely love Thelak Neighbors, and yeah,

745
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm all in. I do think darts like I would

746
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: love to see it be a competition, but I think

747
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: we were actual yesterday on Fantasy Live. Which Giants quarterback

748
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: we think scores the most points this year? And I

749
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: think it's Russ because their defense and Elik neighbors will

750
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: make him look good enough where a Dable and the

751
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: coaching staff want to just keep brought in with with

752
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: uh Russ.

753
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I keep thinking at some point

754
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna start Jackson Dart because and maybe maybe I'm

755
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: just underestimating how good the defense is or how much

756
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: the defense I should say, keep them in games. I

757
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: know they're good. I'm underestimating maybe how much the defense

758
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: will keep them in games because their schedule is brutal

759
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: and there's a very good chance they start Zher to

760
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: four even if Russ is you know, even if US

761
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: isn't a dumpster fire, right, Russ can be just fine.

762
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: He can be perfectly Russ, and it could still be

763
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: oh and four when you look at that. Yeah, And

764
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: so like I'm just wondering, like do they press on

765
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: because starting on four is always bad. Starting oh and

766
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: four in the nfcast where you gotta deal with the

767
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Commanders is going to be hellish. So like,

768
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: at what point do they throw up the white flag

769
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: and start Jackson Dart and I just you know, so

770
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I think that's very much in play, And I'm like, so,

771
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: then part of me is wondering, like, well, why don't

772
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: you just bite the bullet and just start him from

773
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: the beginning and just see what you got.

774
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: Because they think they can make the playoffs with Russ,

775
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: I'd imagine.

776
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: But the Giants aren't gonna be good though, we know

777
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: that right like the.

778
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: Christ the Giants can go to a playoff game. They

779
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: can buy a ticket like the rest of us. You know,

780
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: it's throwing him in when their bye week is fourteen,

781
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: Like that's when you're gonna throw the scenes is already

782
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: washed it over.

783
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: Like no, I think that's why they they can move

784
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: before that.

785
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: So wait, look are you are you advocating this? Look on,

786
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: are you advocating that they start Jackson Dart?

787
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: No?

788
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: No, what I'm saying is they start him after week fourteen.

789
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: But again, that's fantasy playoffs. Like I'm good, I kind

790
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: of don't want that change. Let let Dark develop, like

791
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: he doesn't need to start year one, like, let these

792
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: quarterbacks develop in three years like how they used to.

793
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: Like I do think they're sitting in a good spot

794
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: with a quarterback room that has Jameis Winston Russell Wilson.

795
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: So I'd rather go from Russell Wilson to Jameis Winston

796
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: than Jackson Dark. Like that's my order in fantasy and

797
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: my priorities of how many shares I have league neighbors,

798
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: Like we need those two Winston to cook together. Yeah,

799
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 3: that is the dreams that you don't need to see

800
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: Dark this year, Like I don't.

801
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: I think if the Giants fall out of it or

802
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: they start falling behind and they make them move to Dark.

803
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: Uh. Interesting point two though there is there is the

804
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: issue of Brian Babel try to maintain employment as an

805
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: NFL head.

806
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: Coach, So Dark as a test piece so you can know.

807
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think if you're trying to hold onto

808
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: your job, you probably are starting RUSS and then going

809
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: to jamis like you're not You're not a coach who's

810
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: on the hot seat and you're gonna throw a rookie

811
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: in there and just see what happens. Like that's not

812
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: gonna work.

813
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: I think it would have to be an early he

814
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: sees an injury for RUSS for us to get jamis

815
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: like I think if they make a change at starting quarterback,

816
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: it's them waving the white flag and going.

817
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: To the kid who's more likely to start. Who's Who's

818
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: who's more likely to start games this year, Jameis Winston

819
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: or Kenny Pickett.

820
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett in MI, guys, it's amazing.

821
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about that.

822
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: I want to say, Kenny Kenny Pickett.

823
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: I asked that because I was having a conversation with

824
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: somebody yesterday and we started talking about the Browns quarterback situation,

825
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: and we both sort of landed on the fact that

826
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about either Joe Flacco, like, hey, Flacco is

827
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: probably gonna win the job, he'll be the starting quarterback,

828
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: or you talk about the rookies right like, when do

829
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: they get Dylan Gabriel a shot? How much of a

830
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: shot that should were saying. Nobody's mentioning Kenny Pickett, Like

831
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is just there, right.

832
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: And they traded for him.

833
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: He's very much just a seat warmer right now. Like

834
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: nobody like the conversations, either the old guy or the

835
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: young guys. Nobody's talking about the guy in the middle

836
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: at this point.

837
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, he.

838
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Seems like I've never met him. He seems like, I'm

839
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: sure he's a perfectly fine gentleman. I have no affinity with.

840
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: If you're from New Jersey, I protect you just put

841
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: it like that. That's just what it comes down.

842
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: To, Okay.

843
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: I was trying to think someone terrible from Jersey.

844
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: There's gotta be like a there's gotta be like a

845
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: mafia don or something like that. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly

846
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: in my vision. I don't headline Lakwan Jones supports the

847
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Mafia Cardinals at Broncos again NFL Network. That game Saturday,

848
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: nine thirty Eastern time, l Q, you are the biggest R. J.

849
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Harvey stand on this show. I have repeatedly said that

850
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is a lying liar who lies and he's

851
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna get JK. Dobbins in there more than you think.

852
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: Harvey had some good plays last week. I'm the knock

853
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: on him though, is that he was trying to bounce

854
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: everything outside. Does that bother you? Do you need to

855
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: see him run between the tackles more? Are you cool

856
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: with him being him?

857
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 3: I do want him to run in between the tackles

858
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: to show that he can do it, like just to

859
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: put the haters to bed because him bouncing outside doesn't

860
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: bother me. And again, his coach, he even spoke on

861
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: it. It doesn't bother him because he's beating those guys nine

862
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: times out of ten going up the field. So I

863
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: do think that, you know, RJ. Harvey needs to show

864
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: a little bit more in between the tackles, just to

865
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: showcase him as fully as like he could be in

866
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: every down back. He may not be in every down

867
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: back in this system, but it's fine. Sean Payton's on

868
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: the sticks and he knows how to utilize a one

869
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 3: to two punch. We've seen him be very, very very

870
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: successful with this in New Orleans. So I'm not worried

871
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: about RJ. Harvey, not a bit. Give them all, give

872
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 3: me the shares. I'm good, Floria.

873
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: I know you said you've come around on Amar and Hampton.

874
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: Where are you on Harvey?

875
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: I really like RJ. Harvey. I won't say I'm l

876
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Q levels of like, but I loved him as a

877
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: prospect in the new year. I don't need to see

878
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: him run between the tackles. I need him to catch

879
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: passes and to run out wide and get those big

880
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: chunk plays. And I think Peyton is the like he

881
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: fell to the perfect landing spot. I know JK. Dobbins

882
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: puts a little bit of a cap there because I

883
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: do think he'll be the goal line runner. But he

884
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: Harvey could have like a Camara light type season that

885
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: that he had under Payton for years.

886
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a that's a Camara light. Yeah. I

887
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: think I think that's probably the best thing. I wouldn't

888
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: call it.

889
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got de Bo light.

890
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who's de Bo? Who's Debolan Debo? Yeah, but

891
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: like that's been generally unsatisfying, like it's been.

892
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he has been that way too, but Dibo's

893
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: been unsatisfying as well, so it kind of plays it.

894
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I just I keep thinking everybody really is

895
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: holding onto that twenty twenty one Deebo seat and like

896
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: wanting it to I'm I'm taking I'm I'm assuming it's not.

897
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: Choosing.

898
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to believe that he was actually making a

899
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: football point here and not just you know, come on there.

900
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: But but for the record, I might have I might

901
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: have I might have made a mention of you on

902
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live when I talked about Kyron Williams, So you know, whatever,

903
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: hold up now six pm Eastern, three o'clock Pacific in

904
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: IF on network, shout out Bill's at Bears Floria. I

905
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: know you will be. I'm, like I say, watching intently,

906
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you will definitely check in and see

907
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: how things are going. Ben Johnson has said the starters

908
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: will play maybe a fairly good amount in this one.

909
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: The reports out of Bears camp have sort of been

910
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: up and down. You know. There have been things where

911
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: it looked times where it looks good, there have been

912
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: times where everybody has sort of struggled. Ben Johnson is

913
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: trying to be creative talking about putting DJ Moore in

914
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: the backfield every once in a while. What do you

915
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: want to see or how much do you want to

916
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: see from Caleb and the starters this weekend?

917
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: I want to see just enough, you know, like like

918
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: a player too where you're like okay, Like this Bears

919
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: offense looks like they're cooking with fire, and I don't

920
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: want to see anything more than that because I'm trying

921
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: to draft a lot of Bears this summer, and if

922
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: they go out and fall out, every player's ADP is

923
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: gonna rise, and I don't want that. I'm especially with

924
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: the Bears, though, I'm more interested in usage than results,

925
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Like I want to see where Dj Moore is lining up.

926
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: I want to see where Roman Dunes is lining up.

927
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Is Luther Birden playing the slot? Is DeAndre Swift getting

928
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: the three downs opportunity? You don't have to get him

929
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: all the touches, just to see out there standing next

930
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: to Caleb for three downs. And that's what I care about.

931
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: So I hope they're not very productive, but I hope

932
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: it is like the alignment and the usage that we're

933
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: hopeful to see.

934
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: Where are you on the Bears offense? Lakwan like? How

935
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: many guys are you targeting? Where are you Tark Like,

936
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about this group? Well?

937
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: I got DeAndre Swift in the top fifteens, and when

938
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 3: it comes to the running backs, just based on this offense,

939
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 3: I'm in on Caleb as well. I'm in on Dj

940
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: Moore obviously he's my wide receiver twelve. I'm kind of

941
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: in on Loveland, but not really the same thing with Burden.

942
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: But Romadunze is a great, you know, tool that I

943
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: can utilize as a flex you know, most weeks in

944
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: my draft. So I do feel like that Bears offense

945
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: is going to be very explosive. But I do think

946
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: I don't need to see anything from Caleb right now.

947
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: Like I think Ben Johnson's kind of going to keep

948
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: this tucked away secret because they have a Monday night

949
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: game against the Vikings and this could mean something at

950
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: the end of the year when it comes to playoffs

951
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: and everything else. So this is a very important game

952
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: for them, And I think Ben Johnson's just trying to

953
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: get the mental like culture out there for Caleb to

954
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 3: be cause, like it's been reported that he's being hard

955
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: on him, he's coaching him up. Like it's kind of

956
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: like you know me with Mason trying to like be

957
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: hard on him when I'm trying to coach him up

958
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: with soccer. And this is what the game is, and

959
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: this is what it needs to be, Like you know

960
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: what I mean.

961
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: I love you comparing your youth soccer coaching. Try to

962
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: get a second year quarterback to go.

963
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 3: He needs to know, like kids are gonna pull your jersey,

964
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: It's okay, just keep running. Like he's watching all these

965
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: YouTube highlights of these princess soccer players and like soon

966
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: they get touched, they fall. We don't play the game

967
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: like that.

968
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: Man, If if it works for neymar and Christiano Ronaldo, man,

969
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: why can't it work against this you U ten team

970
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: over here?

971
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: Is doesn't play like that.

972
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: If Messi is his favorite player, he needs to mirror that,

973
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: like you got to keep running through people pulling on

974
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: your jersey.

975
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: But whatever, that's fair. But Messi also just like will

976
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: randomly sit out games because he just doesn't. He's just

977
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: not feeling.

978
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: That that's my goal.

979
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: That's my goal, all right? Fair enough?

980
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: I have.

981
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Anything else? Anything else? You guys are like keeping an

982
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: eye on floor anything? Is there any anything we didn't

983
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: touch on that maybe you kind of want to see

984
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: from this weekend.

985
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch Justin Fields if he's out there

986
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 2: again this week. I really the thing is we've reached

987
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: the point like I've seen enough. Travon Henderson, that's my

988
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: guy this year. I don't want him to do anything more.

989
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: It's it's cost me more and more to get him.

990
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: I'm good. So like that's very much so the the

991
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: kind of attitude I take to preseason, Like if you

992
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: want a player, I don't think you want him to

993
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: do good in like I go back to years ago

994
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: when I'm aging myself here. But when like Emmanuel Sanders

995
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: first went to the Broncos, I was like, I want

996
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 2: to draft him everywhere, and then he exploded in the preseason.

997
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: It was like a third round pick and it became

998
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: too difficult to get him on all your teams. Like

999
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm good, I don't want my guys that I want

1000
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: to ball out this week. I'd rather do the drop

1001
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: all the passes that go your way, do do all

1002
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: that you know, like I'm saving for the regular season.

1003
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: I mean, lakwan, anything you're keeping an eye on, particularly

1004
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: this weekend.

1005
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: H Surprisingly enough, it's the Seahawks again. I want to

1006
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: see Tory horn I want to see Elijah or Roy.

1007
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: I want to see it they're used, just like they

1008
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: got a lot of opportunities twenty one round to Lodger

1009
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: Royal ran and then you had seven targets for Tory Horton.

1010
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: So I want to see if they keep getting these runs,

1011
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: that they keep getting the reps because they have the

1012
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: opportunity to step up as starters in this offense.

1013
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Tory Horton obviously made a splash. I

1014
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: mean he was the name that a lot of people

1015
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: were talking about after the weekend for sure, So definitely

1016
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on that. I mean, I'm gonna watch

1017
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. I just want to check in

1018
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: on them, see how they're doing, but also terrible. I'm

1019
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna check in on them and see how things are going,

1020
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: but also just to kind of see in any short

1021
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: term sort of what their wide receiver rotation is gonna be,

1022
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, knowing Juwan Jennings is dealing with the calf,

1023
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: knowing Iyuk is still out, who else might be out

1024
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: there with Ricky Piersoll potentially come week one, and so

1025
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: just to kind of get a sense of how that

1026
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: rotation is gonna go and what that means for the

1027
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: offense is what we're gonna do. So and we're not

1028
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: gonna listen to anything Lakwan has to say. It's just

1029
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just chatter man.

1030
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: Just just he keeps going. You're gonna seth Rollins is

1031
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: gonna be the only person that could.

1032
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: Just talk him just because just talking, because I guess

1033
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: he just likes the feeling of the vibrations in his throat.

1034
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got I got white shoes on today,

1035
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: so I just want to keep him clean. I don't

1036
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: want to get any blood on them, on them or

1037
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: anything like that. So, uh, all right, we're going to

1038
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: be back with you on Monday. Uh. You know, we

1039
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: will recap the recap the preseason, uh week two of

1040
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: the preseason, I should say. Also a little bit of

1041
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: a sneak peak. We are slated have been invited to

1042
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: be guests on NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. He'll be

1043
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: doing a little bit of mock drafting, so we are

1044
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: hoping to be able to sit in with him and

1045
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: uh and be part of that this year. So that

1046
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. So keep an eye

1047
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: out for that as well, gentlemen, I slacked you so

1048
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: rocket Ishmael highlights all that I would ask. It's just

1049
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of your time for a lot of really

1050
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: great you know, late eighties or.

1051
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: This back in the day.

1052
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: This looks like potato.

1053
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Recorded on a potato. You know, one day your kids

1054
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: are gonna say something to you like that too, and

1055
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: it's just gonna make you well melt away. You just

1056
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: you know that, right.

1057
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: I didn't mean that.

1058
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to age you, bro. I'm just saying

1059
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: it's all grainy like like one day, one day, your

1060
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: kid's gonna be like, did you grow up during cowboy times?

1061
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: And you're gonna be like what why? You know, you'll

1062
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: know how it feels anyway. That'll do it for this

1063
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, saying

1064
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: hell they do good and live well. Enjoy the weekend,

1065
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: enjoy the football. Everybody. We will talk to you again

1066
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: on Monday.

1067
00:52:53,800 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow