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Speaker 1: Welcome to Friday's edition, a Big Blue Kickoff live here

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot com. He's palled the Tino on Lance

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Speaker 1: Meadow with you for the next sixty minutes. Two zero

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Speaker 1: one five one three is the telephone number. Can't get

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Speaker 1: calls will get to your tweets along the way. As

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Speaker 1: we have the equivalency of a Thursday in Giants football land,

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Speaker 1: given the fact that they are playing on Monday, I

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Speaker 1: almost have to pause for a second, Paul and remember

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Speaker 1: what day it is, because everything is so out of

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Speaker 1: whack when you plan on Monday night. You know how

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Speaker 1: I do it. I steal the phrases that you guys

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Speaker 1: use over on serious NFL radio. For those of you

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Speaker 1: who don't know, Lance does a lot of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I should hire you as my agent who we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get free promotion. But but you know, I do listen

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Speaker 1: to our teammate Bob Popa on the Morning Drive did

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Speaker 1: very very often, and what he likes to always say is,

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Speaker 1: it's a football day, so it's a football Monday, it's

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Speaker 1: a football Tuesday. It's a football Wednesday. So what I

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Speaker 1: like to do is I tell people today is a

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Speaker 1: regular Friday or a calendar Friday, but it's really a

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Speaker 1: football Thursday. And that is certainly a good way of

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Speaker 1: put things in perspective. I don't know necessarily if that

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Speaker 1: prevents the confusion, but we will try to move along

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Speaker 1: here and set the stage from Monday night football Giants

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Speaker 1: So both coordinators spoke today all three, I should say,

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Speaker 1: as well as head coach Pat Shermer. And the biggest

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Speaker 1: theme here entering the second half of the season, Paul

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Speaker 1: and I know it's sort of stating the obvious because

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Speaker 1: the fans know about it. We've talked about it at nauseum,

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Speaker 1: but the ability for the Giants to put more points

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Speaker 1: on the board. And you look at the red zone numbers,

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Speaker 1: you look at the third down numbers, you look at

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Speaker 1: the points per game. I mean, everything goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: Those are the areas that have to dramatically improve. Forget

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Speaker 1: wins and losses. I'm talking about if the Giants want

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Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to finish a game strongly and

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Speaker 1: show that it's not just a flash like we saw

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Speaker 1: in the Panthers game in the first half of the season, Paul,

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Speaker 1: but it's also something that they're more than capable of

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Speaker 1: building upon each and every week. Right, Well, let's look

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Speaker 1: at it this way. The Giants for the third consecutive season,

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Speaker 1: and I know, only halfway through two thousand eighteen, um

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Speaker 1: nineteen actually yes, eighteen. See, and you're telling me I'm

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Speaker 1: confusing Thursday and Friday. You did this to me. Very

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Speaker 1: good at that. For the last two and a half seasons,

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Speaker 1: the Giants have averaged under twenty points a game on

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Speaker 1: offense and quite frankly, as you may remember, and this

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Speaker 1: goes back to the Parcels days of the eighties, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I love to refer to those days. Bill

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Speaker 1: always used to say, Look, if you can hold a

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Speaker 1: team to sixteen or seventeen points a game, you're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna win most of your games. I mean, that was

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Speaker 1: always the goal of the Championship era teams was to

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Speaker 1: hold folks to thirteen a game and not thirteen sixteen

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Speaker 1: a game. That was the number. They what we shot

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Speaker 1: for sixteen a game. If you can hold them sixteen

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Speaker 1: for something big, not just make the playoffs, you're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna go far. If you can hold him the sixteen

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Speaker 1: or under. Then, as offenses became more and more prevalent

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Speaker 1: because the rules change, his favorite the offense, then that

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Speaker 1: number kind of got morphed a little bit, and now

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Speaker 1: the goal was you want to hold teams under twenty

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Speaker 1: points a game. Okay, makes sense. But see if you're

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Speaker 1: the Giants and you're not even averaging twenty points a

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Speaker 1: is going to put you below sea level. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: because if you look from a defensive standpoint to your point, Paul,

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Speaker 1: the Giants on defense are allowing well, it's a little

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Speaker 1: it's at twenty six points per game, twenty second in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But there was a point earlier in the

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Speaker 1: in a position to help close it out. Well. At

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Speaker 1: bloody and they let go. That's gonna happen. Um. I

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Speaker 1: still believe that those situations, although defensive failures at the end,

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Speaker 1: any longer. Turnovers certainly affect your defense and the offense

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Speaker 1: at times costly turnovers I would even throw special teams

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Speaker 1: Paul into the conversation. Whether it be turnovers or just

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, your defense has to get

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Speaker 1: all of that goes hand in hand. And those are

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Speaker 1: some things that the Giants need to focus on. Now

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Speaker 1: you say, okay, well those are the areas that the

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Speaker 1: Giants need to improve. Well, what are they gonna do

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Speaker 1: to help show progress? One area could very well be

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Speaker 1: another tweak on the offensive line. And Pat Shermer didn't

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Speaker 1: make any official announcement, Paul, and I'm curious your perspective,

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Speaker 1: but if you listen to what he has said since

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Speaker 1: Jamon Brown has joined this team, it seems as if

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Speaker 1: they're going to do everything in their power to get

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy who if you know anything

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Speaker 1: The Rams were the the original team to pick him up. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: He started all sixteen games at right guard for them

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Speaker 1: last year. He originally came into the league as a tackle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he goes about six four and a half forty pounds.

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Speaker 1: He is a very large man, folks. Those numbers are

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Speaker 1: not deceiving, Okay, they're not. Again, I've said this from

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Speaker 1: that one? No, I do not, because you could certainly

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Speaker 1: make an argument for the possible strategy of are they

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Speaker 1: better off giving him some snaps a tackle and having

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Speaker 1: Wheeler take a seat on the bench than putting Brown

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Speaker 1: could make an argument that they might be better off

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Speaker 1: giving Brown a shot at right tackle because Wheeler has

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Speaker 1: been overmatched. He tries hard, and we've all talked about

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Speaker 1: his gamesmanship and his willingness and eagerness to try to

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Speaker 1: that Greco has who By the way, he has played

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Speaker 1: I know there have been times he's been overmatched as

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Speaker 1: well the last couple of weeks. But maybe, just maybe,

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Speaker 1: because tackles are always at a premium, maybe the Giants

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Speaker 1: know what, let's just safe arguments safe he proves he

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Speaker 1: can play right tackle at this level. The Browns again

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Speaker 1: more valuable to the Giants if he proves he can

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Speaker 1: play right tackle instead of right guard. Well, and even

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Speaker 1: if you keep him at guard, I mean the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has experience at both positions. Paul, you know

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Speaker 1: it's a premium in this league to have versatile offensive

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Speaker 1: may I add one other thing. Coach Shermer today was

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Speaker 1: don't even think has come up with this concept. He

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Speaker 1: simply said, putting him in there and trying to rush

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Speaker 1: him into the lineup, isn't it a chemistry thing? Because

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Speaker 1: he's got guys on his right and has left that

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Speaker 1: he's got to communicate with and work with. It's not

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Speaker 1: just about plugging him in, and Shermer said, Coach Shermer said,

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Speaker 1: you're right. It's not like a wide receiver. We could

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Speaker 1: got to figure out the route. And he's not responsible

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Speaker 1: to anybody else on the team. Okay, But an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: conjunction with them or it doesn't happen. Okay. Mistakes get

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Speaker 1: of me, there is a part of me that says, well,

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Speaker 1: put him in right tackle, he's only got to worry

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Speaker 1: just saying, Lance, maybe that's also a way to get

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Speaker 1: a very interesting little tidbit that I'm not giving you

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Speaker 1: anything that's for sure. This is just the process of logic.

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Speaker 1: of the mechanisms that they could use to get him

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Speaker 1: on the field and how they might actually enhance his value. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's played every single position but center in his career,

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Speaker 1: as you engine, He's got experience at both guards, He's

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Speaker 1: certainly is an added bonus, not just for this season,

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Speaker 1: him as a key ingredient and part of the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the Giants are also toying with the idea, Paul,

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Speaker 1: speaking of right tackle, Brian mahala came in when Wheeler

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Speaker 1: got hurt in the last game, and Mahalak did pick

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Speaker 1: up a pair of false start penalties that aside, though,

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Speaker 1: do they want to perhaps see a few more reps

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Speaker 1: and looks at him at right tackle, with perhaps Brown

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Speaker 1: potential option. Well, that could be really dangerous because you

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Speaker 1: not understand what they're doing. That's fair. Well, there's certainly

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Speaker 1: I knew that when I stated that. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: so much movement. Doesn't really hurt at this point if

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Speaker 1: Knowing that not only are they coming off the BUYD,

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Speaker 1: they're well rested. They're getting guys back to full health.

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Speaker 1: Carson wentz Now is further removed from the torn a.

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Speaker 1: C l Sean Jeffrey is back, Golden Tate was just acquired.

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Speaker 1: This is the ideal time for the Eagles to really

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Speaker 1: go on a run and start clicking. Washington's hurting, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Giants are much further back. I'm with

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Speaker 1: you if you were to ask me second half of

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Speaker 1: the season, who should be the front runner to win

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Speaker 1: the division. I think it's the Eagle's hand down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's close at this but I think

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Speaker 1: right now they have to feel pretty good about where

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Speaker 1: they stand in this horse race, because as they're coming

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Speaker 1: around that back stretch and and they're ready to make

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Speaker 1: that move, the Redskins don't look like they're going to

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Speaker 1: have the stamina to hold on. And the last point

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up before we open up the

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Speaker 1: phone lines and appreciate those of you for holding on

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Speaker 1: chooser one five, one three. If you just look across

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Speaker 1: the NFL landscape right now, Paul, because we always have

449
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Speaker 1: these debates about well, you know, mobile quarterbacks will help

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Speaker 1: overcome shittable offensive lines. Well, let's just quickly look at

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Speaker 1: the a f C landscape. Pittsburgh I just went over.

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Speaker 1: You can make the argument Pittsburgh may have the best

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Speaker 1: offensive line in football right now, given the fact that

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Speaker 1: Dallas has fallen off. In Washington, who I think would

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Speaker 1: have been in the conversation too, has now been backed

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Speaker 1: up with injuries. How about Kansas City. Kansas City, to me,

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Speaker 1: has a solid offensive line. You got a lot of veterans.

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Speaker 1: It's no coincidence they're up there in terms of taking

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Speaker 1: care of business. Then you go over to the NFC

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, another veteran offensive line, guys like Max Unger

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Speaker 1: and Tehran Armstead. I mean, these are guys who have

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Speaker 1: been around the block, not guys that have brought off

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Speaker 1: off the street. The Rams solid offensive line, Andrew Whitworth,

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Speaker 1: who was a name that many Giants fans wanted the

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Speaker 1: team to go after. And these teams across the board

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Speaker 1: are in contention to win their divisions or battle for

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Speaker 1: a wild card. So it goes hand in hand. Why

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Speaker 1: because that means you're running the football effectively, and you're

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Speaker 1: protecting your quarterback. With that being said, let's open up

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Speaker 1: the phone lines. You've heard enough from us. Let's hear

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Speaker 1: from you. Two zero one nine, four five one three

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Speaker 1: getting you said from Monday Night Football. Giants Niners coming

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Speaker 1: your way, Week ten, coming off the by as. The

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Speaker 1: Giants are one in seven, Niners not far back. They've

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Speaker 1: got two wins, and believe it or not, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna meet exactly a year apart in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: The Giants of the Niners met last year Week ten.

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Speaker 1: This is wild. I've never seen this. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And you've been around a lot longer than I have,

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Speaker 1: and I can't remember a situation even through storybook time

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Speaker 1: from you being brought up. That's what you seem to remember.

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Speaker 1: This happening a few times over my thirty six years.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, does it really mean anything, No, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't anything. I just find it interesting. It's wild. But

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Speaker 1: but here's what also makes it wild, Paul. Last year

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Speaker 1: they go to San Francisco, they were also one in

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Speaker 1: seven the Giants, and they go up against a team

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback that was making his fourth career start.

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Speaker 1: That was c J. Betherord, and we all know what c. J.

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Speaker 1: Bethord managed to do. Okay, now you move the calendar

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Speaker 1: forward exactly one year. Giants are one in seven again,

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Speaker 1: going to San Francisco. Now you're going up against another

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Speaker 1: inexperienced quarterback, Nick Bolan's making a second career start. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of funky comparisons between both of these matchups. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I teased you. Now we're going to go back to

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Speaker 1: the phone lots. Nate is in Upstate New York. Nate,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live. What's happening? Hi? Man? Hello,

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Speaker 1: I was just I'm just calling because the sign of Brown.

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Speaker 1: I like it, and I think it's gonna help us

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Speaker 1: this year. This doesn't help us in the future. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know why people to talk. The guy is

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Speaker 1: not under contract, has the season. Well, we made that clear.

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Speaker 1: But you're at least you're experimenting, though, Nate, and you're evaluating,

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Speaker 1: just like you're evaluating guys that are currently on the

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Speaker 1: roster who are also set to be free agents. To

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Speaker 1: determine whether or not it's even worth pursuing resigning the guy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta find that out to understand that and yes,

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Speaker 1: I I kind of understand it, except I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to play that tapple because I wouldn't want to talk

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Speaker 1: up as value. I honestly, I would play him at guard, uh,

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Speaker 1: And I would I would make sure that that he

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Speaker 1: is a good guard and keep him at guard, which

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Speaker 1: you put him at tackle, and then he's count have

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Speaker 1: to he's can have required pack backup tackle money at least,

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Speaker 1: which is still as much as a starting guard. And

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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't want to do that. To be quite

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Speaker 1: honest with you, and to be honest with you, UM,

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Speaker 1: my draft strategy would be too uh trying not to

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Speaker 1: improve the team any more than I have to. I

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Speaker 1: would have keep Eli up fight and that's about it. Um,

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Speaker 1: keep the draft. We've already suffered as much. You might

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Speaker 1: as well just keep suffering along. And then uh nick

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Speaker 1: Fosa in the first round and then UH draft offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman for the rest of the draft. Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they could draft offensive lineman for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if they go

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Speaker 1: into the draft thinking that they need to get a

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Speaker 1: few offensive lineman. I don't think that's crazy. I just

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Speaker 1: I understand your point and you're playing out. The argument

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Speaker 1: of the season has lost mathematically. Just play it out.

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Speaker 1: Get the ideal draft pick. First of all, it's about

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Speaker 1: what you do with what where you pick, not where

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Speaker 1: exactly you pick. That's important to note because there's teams

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Speaker 1: and all you have to do is go through one

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Speaker 1: first round bust after another where teams had excellent first

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Speaker 1: round opportunities nate and then they did not take advantage

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Speaker 1: of it because of the player they selected. So I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't get so caught up in terms of the Giants

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Speaker 1: need to continue losing. Well, I'm not disagreeing with you.

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Speaker 1: You could certainly bring up giants relevant players to that

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Speaker 1: who did not necessarily reach their full potential. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just talking about the NFL in general. I'm not just

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Speaker 1: focusing on the Giants. Need you go across the NFL landscape.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of first rounders that did not pan out.

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Speaker 1: So when people get caught up in all the Giants

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Speaker 1: should continue to lose so they get a favorable pick.

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Speaker 1: It's about who you pick, not where you pick. That's

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. I agree, I agree, and

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Speaker 1: it was I know, I know you are. I'm just

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Speaker 1: bringing it in Avant Gate. I just I just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: look to upgrade the team at this point other than

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Speaker 1: to keep Eli alive, because I don't believe Eli is

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Speaker 1: the problem. I you know, it is ridiculous what that

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Speaker 1: even try to blame Eli when you look at what

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Speaker 1: has happened to this, you know, the confensive line of ours,

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Speaker 1: even with us the changeover, it's still the worst offensive

557
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Speaker 1: line in the league. And and uh it's not fair

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Speaker 1: to Eli what is happening to him and the carnish

559
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: has put on his career because of management inability to draft,

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Speaker 1: uh alignment and to be quite honest with you, to

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Speaker 1: draft period for the last ten years, it's been quite disappointing.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I do see where they're going, and I

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Speaker 1: see the the scheme seems to be doing all right.

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of things I I cracked my

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Speaker 1: head about, but I'm not the GM, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to make those you know, I'm not the one

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Speaker 1: being paid to make those decisions. But uh, I myself,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you had a quantity coming out to

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Speaker 1: Nick Bolsa, and well, I'm not saying Tank, I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying you don't you there's not a better player if

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Speaker 1: I'm out in the draft in Nick Polsa. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not his brother, but if you look at Nick Bolsa,

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Speaker 1: he is the exact same size and and and and hard,

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Speaker 1: but he is actually a more polished player than his

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Speaker 1: brother was coming out of the draft. When when he

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Speaker 1: came out and so and you saw what what he

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Speaker 1: did coming out, uh, missing the first four games of

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Speaker 1: the draft. About the seasons, and so I look at

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Speaker 1: Nick Bolsa and and I think to myself, there's a

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Speaker 1: guaranteed we haven't had in the last four years. All Right,

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Speaker 1: let's break this into three parts. First of all, Bosa

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Speaker 1: is presumed to be one of the top three players

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Speaker 1: in the draft, at least how I've heard things at

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Speaker 1: this point in the in the draft process. I'm really

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Speaker 1: not prepared to start talking a much about that until

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Speaker 1: we get a heck of a lot closer to it,

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Speaker 1: certainly till we get to the bowl games. And then

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Speaker 1: we also know where the Giants will pick, because quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna win a bunch of games

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Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be picking in the top three

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Speaker 1: I really don't, so that may make Bosa actually irrelevant

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Speaker 1: to the conversation. That's number one. Number two, I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on Eli Manning. You guys, if you've listened to

595
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Speaker 1: the show before, you know how I feel about it.

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Speaker 1: Eli has been victimized here more than anything else. Number three,

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Speaker 1: and here's where I strongly disagree with you. If the

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Speaker 1: Giants have the ability to acquire somebody at low cost

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Speaker 1: or no cost, with very minimal risk, whether it's a

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Speaker 1: guy on waivers like jay Mon Brown, what you do

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Speaker 1: is you get the guy in here, and you get

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Speaker 1: him into your building, You get him into your system.

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Speaker 1: You watch him work, you watch him practice, you watch

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Speaker 1: him play. That's the best audition he can have because

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: you will find out much more about him that way

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Speaker 1: then you will ever find out looking at tape that's

607
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Speaker 1: from somebody else's team. It's always better to have a

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Speaker 1: firsthand experience with a guy. This is the time, these

609
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Speaker 1: next two months, these are the times where the Giants

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Speaker 1: need to find out as much as they possibly can

611
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Speaker 1: about any potential acquisition that they're thinking of. Now. Of

612
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: course it's minimal, guys, I mean, you're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot of they're not there. Their crumbs are coming in.

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Speaker 1: But but for example, Henderson the kick returner, Now he

615
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: came in, gave the fourth kick returner they've had this year.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the best one they had. Now

617
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: they had a roster move to make. They put McIntosh

618
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Speaker 1: up because they got to find out about him. They

619
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Speaker 1: waved Henderson off the roster, but then got him onto

620
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Speaker 1: the practice squad because they still want him around. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who could be part of the

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Speaker 1: solution in the future, so you want them in the building.

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Speaker 1: So I would disagree with you strongly about not trying

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Speaker 1: to upgrade if you can, because there is long term

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Speaker 1: benefit to that plan. No, I'm not saying don't upgrade

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Speaker 1: if you can. I'm just saying, don't try to win

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Speaker 1: more games. But I mean don't you're not going you're

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Speaker 1: not trying to, And to be honest with you, you're

629
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Speaker 1: not gonna find uh anybody out there right now another

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Speaker 1: team to significantly upgrade your team. Well, then that's that's

631
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: more of a reason nede to our point that why

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Speaker 1: should you then be overly concerned if these guys get

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Speaker 1: opportunities and reps. The whole point is to then see

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Speaker 1: do you find the gem out there who's worthy of

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Speaker 1: perhaps being brought back the following season. This is when

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Speaker 1: you do that evaluation, and I'll let you continue. It

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Speaker 1: seems as if your philosophy, need to me, is equivalent

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Speaker 1: to when you criticize an offense for scoring too soon

639
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Speaker 1: and leaving too much time on the clock. So what

640
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Speaker 1: are you supposed to do. You're supposed to toy around,

641
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: mess around, and then decide to get into the end zone.

642
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Speaker 1: You take advantage of your opportunities when your opportunities arise.

643
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: It's the same thing in free agency. In the waiver wire,

644
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: you grab the guy because you think you have faith

645
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: in you. I don't think you quite understand what I mean.

646
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: And the Giants are trying to doing what I'm talking

647
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: about by not bringing in Bruce Survey. Okay, uh, Bruce

648
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: Learner was a piece that we could have brought in

649
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: and would have significantly upgraded our team. But why would

650
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: you do that because it doesn't help you in the future. Okay.

651
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: And that was all I was saying. And the Jets

652
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: are doing part of what I'm saying, and I was

653
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: just trying to reinforcing that point. Was that is that, Yeah,

654
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: you want to bring you Jamal Brown because he's gonna

655
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: help keep right keep his the future of our tea

656
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: um alive. I mean, but for the next year are

657
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: too well, No, I guess the call. Yeah, I appreciate

658
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: it like that you don't want to bring no and

659
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: I understand where you're going with that, Nada and appreciate

660
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: the phone call. And I'm glad he brought up the

661
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: contract point because I was gonna say, Bruce, Irvin, Paul,

662
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: and Jamon Brown are not good examples because Irvin signed

663
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: a contract going back to two thousand sixteen, so he's

664
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: still on that four year I just looked it up.

665
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: It was about a forty million dollar deal where his

666
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: big Brown is a completely different opposite end of the

667
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: spectrum in terms of his contracts. So yeah, they weren't

668
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: saying that they want to look to bring in more guys.

669
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna eat up cap space, but there's no problem

670
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: with looking at a guy who may have some upside

671
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: and potential. And to the Cohler's point, and they did

672
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: bring this up, Paul, if you don't want to put

673
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: him at tackle because you're worried that now you're gonna

674
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: bring up his value and he's gonna make more money

675
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: and have opportunity a free agency. Then when are you

676
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: supposed to determine whether or not he's actually an option

677
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: at right tackle for you? You tell me that the

678
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: problem when he's supposed to find that out. You know,

679
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: they've got Corey Coleman, who's the first round draft pick,

680
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench right now and they're trying to

681
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: coach him up to get him ready to play in

682
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: some games. We already saw them bring Fowler into into

683
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: the into the fold and he's actually gotten some reps.

684
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Even had to pass thrown to him the other day.

685
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: So this is what we're talking about. These are guys

686
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: who they're taking a shot. It's low cost or no

687
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: cost really to bring them in. See what they've got,

688
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: and hopefully they're better and an upgrade over what you

689
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: have to the point where you think, moving forward, they

690
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: could be part of the answer. Maybe Coleman and Fowler

691
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: are on this team next year as part of the

692
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: receiving corps. Maybe they're not. The point is you're giving

693
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: them an opportunity to show their wares and you're finding

694
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: out firsthand if they're worth moving forward with. That's all

695
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: we're talking about. And you know what, there's still two

696
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: months left in the season, and it wouldn't shock me

697
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: if the revolving door continues again. Lesser known guys, fringe guys.

698
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: But if they're better than one of the fifty three

699
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: who are in the locker room now, the Giants will

700
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Speaker 1: not hesitate. I remind your Big Blue Kickoff Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Corps Light download the Corps Live Rewards app to

702
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: an amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. He's pulled a

703
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Tino on Lance Meadow. Thanks so much for tuning into

704
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Speaker 1: Friday's edition a Big Blue Kickoff Live, even though it

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Speaker 1: is technically Thursday in Giants Land. Let's head back to

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Speaker 1: the lines. Len is in Columbia, Maryland. Len, what's happening?

707
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Hey guys? How you doing do all right? Len? What

708
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: do you got for us? Great? Yeah, well, coming off

709
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: of bye week, it cames left second half of the season. Um,

710
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: I think from what I hear you folks saying, I

711
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: thank you feel like the Giants can win some games here,

712
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: and uh I agree with that. I think we can. Uh,

713
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, I pretty much agree with everything you've been

714
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: saying in so far. This morning. I kind of want

715
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: some some things to settle down a little bit. Um.

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00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: I I know that, I know the idea is a

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00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: good one, Paul, that if there's somebody out there who

718
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: you think is marginally better, let's get him in here

719
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: and see what he can do and so forth. But

720
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean we're not talking about, um, you know, guys

721
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: who were going to take us to the playoffs at

722
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: this point. I mean, we're talking about filling out you know,

723
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about filling out rosters and things like that.

724
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: So I would like, you know, let's take these fifty

725
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: three guys. Um, let's go forward. Let's see what we

726
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: can do, show some faith in these guys. Uh, you know,

727
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: build a team approach. We're in this together. Um. You know,

728
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm mildly disappointed. And maybe mildly is even too strong

729
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: a word here. Um. I wish coach should come out

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00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: and say that's head. Um. You know he said Elies

731
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback on Monday. Um. Yeah, I don't want to

732
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: read between the lines and what he means by that

733
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: and so forth. I don't and I don't want to

734
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: get into it too much, but I just wish he'd say,

735
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, we thought he like could do it. We

736
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: still think he I could do it. He lies the

737
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: quarterback for the rest of the year, you know, and

738
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: then end all the suspicion and all the second guess scene,

739
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: And when are we going to get Letta in there?

740
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: And you know, looking at every pass that you know

741
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: that the guy throws and you know he threw behind him,

742
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: he overthrew him. I mean, it kids getting to the

743
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: point of ridiculous. Just let's tell this team elis taking

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00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: us through the next eight games land there there are

745
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: two problems with that. The first one is, honestly, now,

746
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to happen. You know

747
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: how I feel about Eli. But let's just say Like

748
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: goes out to San Francisco throws five picks hundred and

749
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: twenty yards. He's like eight. I mean, he just absolutely

750
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: plays the worst game of his life. Okay, Now, now

751
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: if so, let's say that happens and then he follows

752
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: it up. Let's say he stays in the lineup and

753
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: does the same thing against Tampa. Let's just say that

754
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: for some strange reason, Eli totally falls on his face. Well,

755
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: then they'd be doing a disservice to whoever the backup

756
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: is going to be, whether it's Tanny or Loletta, especially Loletta,

757
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: given the fact that he's a rookie and there are

758
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: those who want to see him get in there, they

759
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: would be doing a disservice if they did not put

760
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: one of those other guys in, specifically Loletta. So I

761
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: think when Schumer says what he says, his intention is

762
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: all things being equal, ELI being healthy. And by the way,

763
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: I've been saying this now for two months, you know me,

764
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I've been on this program forever. All things being equal,

765
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Speaker 1: ELI stays healthy, ELI continues to make all the throws

766
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Speaker 1: and performs at a reasonable level. He will probably start

767
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Speaker 1: the whole rest of the season. I'm pretty confident in

768
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: saying that good having had that, Having said that, are

769
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Speaker 1: their potential scenarios under which one or two of the

770
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks could get into a game. Sure, there are

771
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: scenarios that that could occur. So Shermer can't say equivocally

772
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Speaker 1: that Manning is the guy, because if he does, the

773
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Speaker 1: writers of the press room will pin his behind to

774
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Speaker 1: a wall. If he should ever be in a situation

775
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Speaker 1: where circumstances prompt him to give one of the other guys.

776
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: A look, they will absolutely crucify him. He can't do it. Well, Um,

777
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Speaker 1: you know the leadership. I'm not your sherman, but Dave, Gentleman,

778
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: we have been talking about Eli as a leader from

779
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: as far back as the middle of February. I mean,

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00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: it's Eli. I mean he was gonna be the starter. Um,

781
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: what's what? What's what's different? I mean you committed to

782
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: him as far back as mid February. I mean, what

783
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: would be wrong with saying this guy's a quarterback for

784
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I understand there are scenarios,

785
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: but man, Paul, you stressed it a little bit there.

786
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I don't think those scenarios because I don't think so

787
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: either Land. But if they do, you can't tell in

788
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: hypothetical because they by the way, to be fair, they

789
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: owe it to themselves. They owe it to themselves, and

790
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: they owe it to whoever you want to. I don't

791
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: care if you say it's low Letto or Taddy, but

792
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: let's just say if I arguments sake Loletta, they owe

793
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: it to him and to this organization. If Eli should

794
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: suddenly fall on his face, they owe it to that

795
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: kid to at least get him a look. And I've

796
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: said this before, unless elis hurt, or unless there's a

797
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: blowout situation in a game, elis taking every snap. Yeah, look,

798
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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, and I even partially agree

799
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Speaker 1: with it. The reason, the reason why I was coming

800
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: from the direction where I'm coming from here is I'm

801
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: looking for a little stability over these last eight weeks.

802
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Let's build some together as out of this group. There's

803
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: some football players on this team, you know, count and

804
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: not have to introduce ourselves to a bunch of guys

805
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: each week. Lance, you finished the show yesterday and it

806
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: was a good show. You You were on your own yesterday,

807
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly for the second and you were,

808
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: you were talking to a caller about the turnover on

809
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: the team. By my count, on the fifty three man

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: roster right now, today's fifty three man roster, thirty seven

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Speaker 1: of them are new to the Giants. When I say

812
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: new to the Giants, I mean our new two thousand,

813
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: eighteen thirty seven had a fifty three and if I

814
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: counted correctly, I got seventy seven different guys as part

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Speaker 1: of the fifty three man roster. Some of those injuries,

816
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of them. I mean, they're

817
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: just Hallapeo Lattimore. I think there was one other guy

818
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: on injured reserve who had been part of the regular

819
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: Stewart is another guy that went on IR. Halla Halla,

820
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: Hell and Perkins, by the way, okay, are the two

821
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: holdovers from last year who were currently on injured reserve.

822
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: That brings the number to eighteen guys who were still

823
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: on the team from last year. If you discounted two

824
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: i R guys, it goes down to sixteen. And then

825
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: you also have to consider what you what you think

826
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: about more because so there's been a lot of I mean,

827
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: no one could say we have you know, we haven't

828
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: tried to improve the team. I mean she was I

829
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: mean look at all the changes, I mean really unbelievable.

830
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: And and you know, the first half of the season

831
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: has been like a revolving door. I'm just looking forward

832
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to settle down a little bit. Let's see what these

833
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: fifty three guys can do. It's build a little teamwork

834
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: amongst them. Going you don't go out there and win

835
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: some games. Now, this is forty niner team. I don't

836
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: think they can be overlooked. Last you referred to the front.

837
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: You did too, refer to their front seven. I mean,

838
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: these guys get after it, um. If you look at

839
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: the statistics and guys every week, I mean last week

840
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: against who they blow out Oakland. Yeah, they beat open

841
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: Well to your point line here as I jumped in

842
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: butcher guys who hadn't had sacks in previous games. Well,

843
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner, who was a first round pick a two

844
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, leads the team with five and a half sacks.

845
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: Then they're two thousand fifteen first round pick also from

846
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: the same school Oregon. Eric ar Instead, he's got three sacks,

847
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: So that's eight and a half sacks right there between

848
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: two of your starting defensive lineman. And Solomon Thomas is

849
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: a first round pick a two thousand seventeen. He's no slouch,

850
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: may not have the sack numbers, so they've invested first

851
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: round picks each of the last three years. It's starting

852
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: defensive line. And that's what you know. You you haven't

853
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: mentioned this name yet, but he's a I mean, he's

854
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: a turning turning out to be a heck of a

855
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: football player. And I just shake my head every time

856
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: I see a guy from Iowa. It looks like every

857
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: time you drafted, every draft here you ort to draft

858
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: at least one guy from Iowa branded Sheriff. That's a

859
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: fair point. This guy Kittle, who was probably I don't

860
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: know where he got picked that fifth round. He was

861
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: the fifth round. Actually he's got like fifty catches. He's

862
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: getting like sixteen or seen one of my towns land,

863
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: You remember, I wanted them in the fourth round. But yeah,

864
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know where we went in the fourth round.

865
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: But that's that's a whole different story. All right. Listen, hey,

866
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. You guys, have a great weekend,

867
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: and let's go Giants. Alright, let's a game. You as well.

868
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. We'll talk next week. You got

869
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: it interesting that Lenn brought up George Kittle because I

870
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: was watching Kyle Shanahan's press conference because I just always

871
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: like to listen and hear what the opposing team had

872
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: to say. And Kittle was brought up, and then Shanahan

873
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: went into an entire dissertation Paul about the history of

874
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: how they found Kittle, and he said they had every

875
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: intention to take Kittle in the third round. They figured

876
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: that he wasn't a guy. If he go back to

877
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: his college stats that put up monster receiving numbers. He

878
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: was more noticed a blocker, is why he appealed to you.

879
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: I get exactly. So they figured, okay, all around ability,

880
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: they don't have to reach for him in the first

881
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: of the second round, but they figure, okay, when the

882
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: third round comes along, he's probably going to be there

883
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: and we've got to at least think about grabbing him.

884
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: And then the third round somebody else was still on

885
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: the board. Okay, the fourth round, Kittle is still there,

886
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: and then the fifth round comes and he just falls

887
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: right into their lap. So somebody asked there like, if

888
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: you look back, why did George Kittle fall? And Shanahan's

889
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: feeling was, most of the tight ends that go early,

890
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: and I think there's validity are the guys that put

891
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: up the catches, get the touchdowns, like get tight and

892
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: the blocking guys they fall down in the draft or

893
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: sometimes they even are undrafted. And that was a grape

894
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: fine by the San Francisco forty Niners. No, no, no, no,

895
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: they listened to this show and know that that's exactly

896
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: what they did. It's exactly what they did. It happens

897
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: all the time guys are all these teams are always

898
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: stealing the guys that I target. Kittle is in the

899
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: top three in the NFL amongst tight ends and receiving,

900
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: receiving yardage and first downs, and I think amongst qualifiers,

901
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: he's tied with O. J. Howard in yards per catch

902
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: amongst tight explosive places. Okay, he's absolutely on his way

903
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: to what should be a Pro Bowl season. Unbelievable how

904
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: teams just kept sitting back and sitting back and passing

905
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: on him. Everybody wants a video game tight end? Yeah, okay,

906
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: I I had this guy picked from the very get go.

907
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: It kills me that he's kicking butt. He's another Bret

908
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: Jones out there for those forty Niners you're too young

909
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: to remember. Well, I'm not gonna say I remember that.

910
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: I remember Brent Jones though. All right, Francis, how about that? Okay,

911
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: now you're going along with Well, I'm not saying I

912
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: don't recognize the name, but I'm not comply to the

913
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: audience and tell them, Oh sure, yeah, I studied plenty

914
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: of film from him, remember back you know down my

915
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: VHSK Just another terrific forty Niners tight end. And they've

916
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: had a bunch of them in the last forty years

917
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: they have, They've produced a lot of guys. I'm looking

918
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: actually at the list here as I bring up the

919
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: profile of Kittle, and I mean the Niners advanced McDonald

920
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: who's actually now making a name for himself with Pittsburgh

921
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: because he emerged as his daughter, and Garrett Sellek, who

922
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: is still in the mix. He actually, I believe, if

923
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: memory serves to be correct, and I have to confirm this,

924
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: I think Kittle was hurt in last year's matchup with

925
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: the Giants, and I think it was Selik who had

926
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: the field day because tight ends. Obviously, we're lighting up

927
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: the Giants, and it was Selik who broke away for

928
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: a very big score. So that just goes to show

929
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: you the depth. And it's no surprise. Shanahan loves to

930
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: utilize his tight ends within his offense. You go back

931
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: to what he did with his father, Mike when they

932
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: were together in Washington. They love to utilize the tight ends,

933
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: so I don't think that should surprise anybody. But he

934
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: looks for versatile players and they have found quite a

935
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: guy in terms of the development. That's why the Niners

936
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: similar to the Giants, but I think the Niners have

937
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: more substance behind the argument. They're looking back and they're

938
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: seeing they got two and they're playing, kudda, what a

939
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: should a game? Paul, because they're saying, if Jimmy Garoppolo

940
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: doesn't go down with the season ending injury, if Jerick

941
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: McKinnon doesn't tear his a c L before the season

942
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: even starts. Remember he was a big signy from the Vikings. Garoppolo, McKinnon, Kittle,

943
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: Marquis Goodwin, who has been also banged up in and

944
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: out of the lineup, is their vertical threat. Pierre Carson

945
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: has been in and out of the lineup, kiddo. I mean,

946
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of weapons that the Niners have. That's

947
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: why I said this is an easy team to look

948
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: at them and say, oh, they've been a joke the

949
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: last few years. There's talent on this team. When they're

950
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: healthy and Shanahan can finally bring it all together, Niner

951
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: is gonna make some noise. And here's the deal. We're

952
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: talking about two teams, the Giants and the forty Niners,

953
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: who at the moment are drowning in the quicksand of parody. Okay,

954
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: they're up to their necks in quicksand these two teams.

955
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: But the truth of the batter is, there's not a

956
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: whole lot of difference between the teams that are a

957
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: game with two over five and these two teams that

958
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: are going to play on Monday night. They're really isn't

959
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: that much of a difference. Well, the biggest differences execution

960
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: and the consistency and execution. That's what separates teams like

961
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: the Niners and the Giants. Let's face it, Paul, from

962
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City Pittsburgh that we saw last night. Now you're

963
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: going Kansas the City is one of the upper level

964
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: teams any point, they're not even near the quicksand. Okay,

965
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: I I didn't know where I thought you were saying,

966
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: because I look at it is. I don't think okay,

967
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: whole I'll tell you who else differential between it Niners

968
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: and the Giants. They're up to their necks and quicksand.

969
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: But there are teams like the Eagles, they're belt high

970
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: redskins of Belt High. Okay, there are teams of that

971
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: ilk that are that are certainly swimming in the quicksander

972
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: priority as well. They're trying to keep the right above

973
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. No no, no, no, no, no, no,

974
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: their boots aren't even So you're not talking about the

975
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: rams the scene. You're talking about the teams right now,

976
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: borderline players. Those are your those are your upper echelon teams.

977
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Those teams don't have any quicksand on their boots. They're

978
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: kind of walking around on the periphery all right there

979
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: on the trail. All right. Then there's a whole chunk

980
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: of teams that have fallen off the trail into the

981
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: Quicksand that's what we're talking about here. I got you

982
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: a lot of analogies that we throw out on this show.

983
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: I hope those of you who tune in are being

984
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: able to follow this. We didn't get a food analogy

985
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: today though, so that has been refreshing. But give us

986
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: some time. We still got about nine eight minutes remaining

987
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: in the program here, so glad you could join us

988
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: on Friday's edition A Biglue Kickoff Live. He's pulled a

989
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: teena onm lance Meadow hashtag giants chat on Twitter. Can

990
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: also give us a ring at two zero one nine

991
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: four five one three is the telephone number you brought

992
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: up Quadre Henderson earlier in the program, he was the

993
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: one that was let go to allow R. J. McIntosh

994
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: to be activated. And since Henderson has been added back

995
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: to the practice squad, which I think most of us

996
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: anticipated when he was let go because of his value,

997
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, Paul. I thought he was a

998
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise and I thought he was a refreshing spark

999
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: in special teams. For the limited opportunities that he had.

1000
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: He did very well at Pittsburgh. I mean this was

1001
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: his playground. He was a great return guy, so I

1002
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: don't think it necessarily caught the Giants by surprise. That

1003
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: was the big reason why they brought him into the

1004
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: practice squad. This is one of the players that if

1005
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: he gets another opportunity, he's somebody to watch who I

1006
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: think has potential on the roster beyond this season. Jamon

1007
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: Brown is certainly a player to keep close tabs on

1008
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: depending on his opportunities. That's why while these eight games,

1009
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: everybody's focusing on wins and losses, I look at more

1010
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: as Pat Sherman and Dave Gettleman getting the film out

1011
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: every single week and saying, you know what, he's worthy

1012
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: of a spot on the nine de man roster this

1013
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: coming off season, and that's what I think is a

1014
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: big part of the philosophy of those two as well

1015
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: as the rest of the coaching staff in the front office.

1016
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: Right now. Well, I think this will also be one

1017
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: of those januaries where as soon as the season is over,

1018
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of these guys signed the

1019
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: future reserved contracts too. You'll suddenly see the list of

1020
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: guys who are under giants control expand a measurably because

1021
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Gedtleman is going to try to get as many bodies

1022
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: in here as you possibly can who he thinks could help.

1023
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: And it's understandable based on what Dave Geedleman did alone

1024
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: in one off season. And we were talking about the

1025
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: turnover rate. Lenn brought it up. I emphasized that a

1026
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: lot on yesterday's show. But this was something that Paul

1027
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: you and I had brought up when they made the

1028
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: final fifty three man roster. They then, after finalizing the

1029
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, brought in six players off of

1030
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: waiver claims. That was an indication that clearly you were

1031
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: not overly confident on at least the back end of

1032
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: your roster and your debt, So that's why you were

1033
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: looking to upgrade it with guys who were let go

1034
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: from other teams, and also taking a chance on them,

1035
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: knowing by the way, Paul, that they were not with

1036
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: you for the entirety of spring, the entirety of training camp,

1037
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna now need a few weeks to go

1038
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. And then on top

1039
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: of that, Mike Jordan's who was one of the six claims,

1040
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: has since been let go, So I mean, you could

1041
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: take it an extra layer beyond the six players that

1042
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: were brought in. Well, I hate to give Land any credit,

1043
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: but he was one of those folks who right away

1044
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: said this is not a good sign. If they are

1045
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: claiming six guys in the week prior to opening day,

1046
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: it's not voting well for the future of this club

1047
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: because you just don't replace six guys like that in

1048
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: a heartbeat and feel good about the fifty three that

1049
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna put on the field in the first game

1050
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: of the season. And you know what, Land, you were right.

1051
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: And it goes even beyond that. Elijah Penny was a

1052
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: late edition. There's another guy, Nate Stupor, linebacker, special teamer,

1053
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: there's another guy. I mean, I could say that Tony

1054
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: Lippett was recently added. We're waiting him to perhaps make

1055
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: his Giant's debut. Well he's lens said he counted up

1056
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: seventy seven. And I don't know if that's official or not,

1057
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: let because I haven't looked at at myself, but he

1058
00:54:53,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: would he say seven. That may be true. The number

1059
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me, No, it wouldn't all. But I'm assuming

1060
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: though that number that lend throughout and I don't believe

1061
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: Lennon is very active on social media, so I don't

1062
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna get clarification until he calls up

1063
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: in a future show. But I would say, if you're

1064
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna make that number official, it's got to go by

1065
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: the start of the fifty three man roster, because there

1066
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: were plenty of roster moves Paul before that. You start

1067
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: from the fifty three, you go all the way to

1068
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and that's an accurate number.

1069
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: But I know you and I brought up on previous

1070
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: shows and even on the Giants Radio Network pregame show.

1071
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: All you need to do is go back to the

1072
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: end of the two thousand sixteen season, the team that

1073
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: was eleven and five loss of the Packers in the

1074
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: wild card round. There are less than ten players Paul

1075
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: remaining on the current roster from the end of two

1076
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. So I mean, you could talk about turnover

1077
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: from seventeen to eighteen. How about the turnover from and

1078
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: we're not far removed from that two thousand sixteen team

1079
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: which made the playoffs, and think about all of the

1080
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: players that are gone from that group less than ten guys.

1081
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, we have an official player count

1082
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: from the National Football League. These are guys who were

1083
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: active in games this year. The Giants have had, according

1084
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: to the NFL, sixty players. Sixty different players have been active.

1085
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Sixty different players have been active and gotten into a game. Now,

1086
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't speak to guys who were on the fifty

1087
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: three who didn't get a jersey on Sunday. There's a

1088
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: number of them that you have to take it to consideration.

1089
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: So they've had sixty actually play in a game so

1090
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: far this year. Well, so, for example, based on what

1091
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: you just laid out, Kyle Alette is not in that

1092
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: sixty because he has yet to be active. That is correct.

1093
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: He's on the roster, and he's also one of the

1094
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: new phases. So that's why you've got to provide context

1095
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: for any of you that are looking at these numbers

1096
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: online and so forth. Context is a big part of it.

1097
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: That would try the Giants for sixth in the NFL.

1098
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: The number one team would be the Raiders at sixty three,

1099
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins also at sixty three, the Falcons at sixty two.

1100
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: The Giants and Browns have had sixty active players, and Paul,

1101
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised with any of the teams you throughout

1102
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: there because you know what the common theme those teams,

1103
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: none of them are looking at the division title any

1104
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: That's one. And then the other common theme is a

1105
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: number of those teams also have been struck by the

1106
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: injury bug. Because Miami is the exception of the team

1107
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: that actually has a winning record and still mathematically is alive. Miami,

1108
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: I would argue injuries is a big reason why. I mean,

1109
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: you lose your starting quarterback and Ryan Tannehill right off

1110
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: the bat, and they've had some offensive line issues, wide receivers,

1111
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: they've lost like they play in the a f C. Patriots.

1112
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: It's nice to know that you renamed the division might

1113
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: as well you might as well. You're right, that would

1114
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: be another good one. Yeah. By the way, division speaking

1115
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: of Belichick, and and this is related because clearly he

1116
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: was Giants coach. Did you see they miked him up

1117
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: for the Patriots? Not looked at it yet? Take a

1118
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: look at I think you enjoy, You will enjoy at

1119
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: some point. Definitely take a look at. I had an

1120
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to catch it the other day, and I just

1121
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: it's not all wow, it's Bill Belichick. It's just I

1122
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: always take enjoyment out of somebody who is so in

1123
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: tune to a game and is calm, cool and collected.

1124
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I know he's been around the block, so I'm not

1125
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: telling you anything new, but it's always interesting to see

1126
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: how he acts and behaves during the course of the game.

1127
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: And Paul, they score touchdowns, Brady marches them down the field.

1128
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: You would think that they just turned the ball over.

1129
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: It's the same facial expression. He doesn't get too high,

1130
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't get too low. It's even keeling, and that's

1131
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: a big part of being a successful coach. I'm with

1132
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: all of my favorite Belichick NFL films. Clip is at

1133
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Indianapolis when he's telling his defense

1134
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 1: to watch out for Nix and Cruise and don't worry

1135
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: manning him. I mean, that is the best Belichick clip

1136
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: of all time. Barton one. Yeah, I smile every time

1137
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: I see that one. I don't think he's smiling too much.

1138
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: Then again, I think he's got enough hardware that he

1139
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: doesn't need to. Yes, that is a good way to

1140
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: wrap up the program. We need to say goodbye. We do. Indeed,

1141
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: we appreciate everybody for tuning in. You can continue to

1142
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: tweet at us at hashtag Giants Chat and he tweets

1143
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: that we didn't address on the air. Will certainly try

1144
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: to answer your back. Big Blue Kickoff Live back up

1145
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: and running on Monday because the Giants will play till

1146
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Monday night. David Deal and I will be back in

1147
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: on Monday because the rest of his crew will be

1148
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: taking the long cross country plane ride to San Francisco, California. Well,

1149
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: if that's the silver lining to look at that's one

1150
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: way to look at it. I'm certainly one back. You

1151
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: don't need help with that. The last time I checked

1152
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: for Paul to Tito, I'm lance metto enjoy the rest

1153
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: of your Friday and the weekend. Ahead, we'll speak to

1154
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: you on Monday right here on Big Blue Kioff Live.

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Speaker 1: I've going