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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders. I am Tom Tellicero, that's

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Speaker 1: Judy Batista, that is Ian Rapper. I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: by prevacing this that we are recording this on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Judy and I and are both Mets fans. So at

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Speaker 1: any point there are any outpers good or bad during

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Speaker 1: the course of this show, it is not necessarily related

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Speaker 1: to the subject matter that we are discussing. I live

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Speaker 1: in a place where they stop playing baseball at all.

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Speaker 1: There's no more games. They just stop playing. They've got

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Speaker 1: a lot on the line. Let's talk about week in

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Speaker 1: the Judy your biggest takeaway from the Sunday City.

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Speaker 3: Uh, here's my biggest takeaway. Let's let's take it from

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: The cadence specifically, Robert said, that might be something you

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Speaker 4: guys have to dial back a little bit. Is that

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Speaker 4: something you think could potentially help the situation.

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Speaker 2: That's one way to do it. The other ways hold

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Speaker 2: them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've

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Speaker 2: had one false start. Morgan had one false start, I

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Speaker 2: believe until this so you know, it's been a weapon.

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Speaker 2: We use it every day in practice. We don't you know,

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Speaker 2: we rarely have a false start, and to have I

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Speaker 2: don't know five today, it seemed like four or five. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it seems like an outlier. I don't know if we

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Speaker 2: need to make mass changes based on, you know, kind

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Speaker 3: I feel like we've all been in workplaces where a

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Speaker 3: colleague has had that kind of body language or a

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Speaker 3: boss has said something like that with his body turned

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Speaker 3: and looking that way. It's never good. It was not

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Speaker 3: good yesterday. To be fair again, we are recording this

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Speaker 3: on a Monday afternoon, and Sala has sort of come

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Speaker 3: back from that position and said, like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: we don't have to change the cadence because Rogers didn't

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Speaker 3: say there is. It's worked for me for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: We're not changing the cadence.

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Speaker 4: That is not the problem.

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Speaker 3: The problem was the Jets were just a mess yesterday.

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Speaker 3: To lose a game to a rookie quarterback when your

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Speaker 3: defense holds the I mean literally, at one point, bow

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Speaker 3: Nicks had like negative passing yards, which didn't know, yes,

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Speaker 3: is that possible. I didn't even know you could do that.

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Speaker 3: So to lose a game like that was terrible. The

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Speaker 3: offense looked completely out of whack. Any progress we thought

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Speaker 3: we'd seen in the offense in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Them getting on the same page just completely blew up.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Rogers was not happy. He's also banged up. He

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Speaker 3: was limping at the end of the game. Obviously he'll

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Speaker 3: he'll play through it. But that's not great. The offensive line,

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Speaker 3: which had looked pretty good the first few weeks, did

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Speaker 3: not look good yesterday. No pass protection at all. He

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Speaker 3: was under duress. All in all, just a mess for

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Speaker 3: the Jets as they head to London. Really a big

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Speaker 3: step back after be seen in the first the last

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Speaker 4: So, you know, with like my main takeaway from this

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Speaker 4: an issue between Aaron Rodgers and Robert So I think

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, I don't think and time you correct me

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Speaker 4: for a wrong I don't think it was a bad relationship.

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Speaker 4: I think it was just like how many times do

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Speaker 4: you hear like well actually, and you're like all right,

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Speaker 4: come on, you know, like Rogers says what he thinks

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Speaker 4: this is really just Aaron Rodgers kind of like you said, Judy,

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Speaker 4: gonna change. How about you change? And I think it's okay.

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Speaker 3: In happens to be right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think he's right too, But there's going to

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Speaker 4: just you know, I just know this Tom. In New York,

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Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Rodgers going back to Green Bay too.

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Speaker 1: There's other quarterbacks who will always redirected to themselves. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: with any of it. I don't blame Rogers for being frustrated.

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Speaker 1: It was I mean, he played in a downpour, he

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who's in a different

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Speaker 1: They know that this is effective. You know, was it

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Speaker 1: the conditions, was it the setti whatever it was, Judy.

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Speaker 1: They got to clean it up because come next Sunday

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Speaker 3: No, they look like the team to beat in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: They looked yesterday for especially in the first half, they

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Speaker 4: It's remarkable. So I was doing a podcast now that

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Speaker 4: I do other podcasts, but I was doing a podcast

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Speaker 4: with my buddy Damon and Mendelaar last night, and the

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Speaker 4: question he asked me was, are you sure that the

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Speaker 4: I had never really considered it greatly. And it seems

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Speaker 4: I think that's a great thing for Sam Donald, and

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Speaker 4: you know, he's gonna end up being I would assume

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Speaker 4: don't know if this ends up as Brian flor As

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Speaker 4: not one hundred percent. But this Vikings defense is awesome

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Speaker 1: I think too, you've got a sense for how Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell's approaching this entire season in the second half of

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Speaker 1: Saquon Why are they throwing in that situation because of

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Speaker 1: of times where you're like, gosh, we could just do

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Speaker 1: he's playing at a high level. You're right on this

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Speaker 4: When I.

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Speaker 1: Ian's right in there. Eventually we will be I think

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Speaker 1: is fially had some copyright laws there. There will be

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Speaker 1: a time where maybe the Vikings have to make that decision,

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Speaker 1: but they're not at that point.

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Speaker 1: You have thirteen more games they hope more than that

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Speaker 1: this level of play if you do get there, you know,

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Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway from Sunday in the NFL, and I

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Speaker 1: It's really fun to watch, and he's been really effective

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Speaker 3: nice to see that team uh be interesting again and

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Speaker 1: fans on Sunday to get a win. We had the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to see Joe Flacco again, who I joked to

434
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Speaker 1: somebody today like the Colts should just go ahead and

435
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: sign into like a seven year contract extension right now,

436
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 1: because I don't know that Joe Flacco's game is ever

437
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: going to change. He's just got this really the quick

438
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: twitch in the bock at the quick arm action, the

439
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: way that he can get it out in process, even

440
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: like Tomlin said it after the game, like it's he

441
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: is a much more I can't remember the word he used.

442
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: It was a Tomlin word, but it was like basically

443
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: a much more polished, proficient passer than Anthony Richardson. Took

444
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 1: them too long to adjust, but he's still doing it

445
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: at a high level. Same time, Anthony Richardson, who ian

446
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: we saw too many times last year obviously three times

447
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: in his four starts get knocked out of a game,

448
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like this is going to be something long

449
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: term for Anthony Richardson. But once again it highlights here.

450
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: As much as we've seen the flashes from Anthony Richardson,

451
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: we've seen some of the not great moments too, and

452
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Speaker 1: it's hard when you don't have the consistency of reps

453
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Speaker 1: to kind of get past some of those rookie type

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Speaker 1: growing pains.

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Speaker 4: The Flacco thing is so interesting to me, Like it's

456
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 4: so interesting. First of all, he was on his couch

457
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 4: last year and so it was signed. Nobody wanted me,

458
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: he was there. Everyone's just decided he was done, and

459
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 4: he's so not done, and he's led a team to

460
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Speaker 4: a playoffs and it's awesome. Obviously doesn't get a starting job,

461
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 4: but I think that was a surprise, but comes in

462
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Speaker 4: there and has that offense looking like it's proficient as

463
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Speaker 4: or whatever, assuming that's what Mike Tomlin actually said.

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Speaker 1: No, now I gotta look it up.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: I think it was proficient, but it was, but he was.

467
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Speaker 4: Proficient, So like you see how it should be. And

468
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 4: I think Shane Steichen has shown that his offense can

469
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Speaker 4: look like this. And then you have Anthony Richardson who

470
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 4: starts the game with a wow plan and an absolute

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Speaker 4: dart and then on the next play airmail is a

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Speaker 4: receiver five yards away from literally throws it like into

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Speaker 4: the stands and you're like, okay, like there's still some

474
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 4: more work to be done, and like that's a little

475
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Speaker 4: bit what you get with Anthony Richard and the good

476
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Speaker 4: plays are so good that it's all worth it, which

477
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Speaker 4: you can have is unfortunately this now I would agree,

478
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: would do it? Sounds like he's gonna be okay. He's

479
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: in fortriguming this morning. Now there's a chance he plays

480
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 4: this week. Hit pointers are annoying but not necessarily debilitating.

481
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Speaker 4: But I just wonder if you hope that Anthony richards

482
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: and Judy doesn't deal with the same stuff that Shaan

483
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Speaker 4: Watson dealt with in Cleveland, which is you see Joe

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Speaker 4: Flacco do it, and everyone goes, why can't it just

485
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Speaker 4: be like that?

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Speaker 1: And that goes a much more proficient passer than Richardson.

487
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: So blitzene doesn't really help you. A veteran guy makes

488
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: quick and prudent decisions. Prudent a good word jud for

489
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Speaker 1: a player of Flacco's stature and age.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, the reality, just like the reality was

491
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Speaker 3: in Cleveland, is it does look better with Joe Flacco

492
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Speaker 3: in it, and that means it's on the incumbent quarterback

493
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Speaker 3: to get better. Right, it was on to Sean Watson

494
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: to do better, and now it's on Anthony Richardson to

495
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Speaker 3: do better. I mean, obviously they want Anthony Richardson to

496
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Speaker 3: be the guy. The one thing that concerns me about

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson obviously he's getting banged.

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Speaker 4: Up a lot.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when he came back the other day,

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Speaker 3: like Rady said, like, I'm not going to change my

501
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: style of play, and I just thought like, oh, like,

502
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Speaker 3: I mean, we all like to watch players play like that,

503
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: but like that's not the way toward long term success

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00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: for a quarterback, especially one who has already proven, you know,

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00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: to get banged up a lot. And and so I

506
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 3: just think, like he's he and the Colts are going

507
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: to have to harness that ability in a way that

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Speaker 3: allows him to to be proficient and also to be

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00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, creative the way he wants to be a

510
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 3: creative player. But in the meantime, I mean, o Flacco

511
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: is quite a thing to have as your backup quarterback.

512
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Speaker 3: And I mean I can't imagine if if the Colts

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Speaker 3: do not bring him back after this season. I can't

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00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: imagine he will be sitting on his couch again, because

515
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: it's fairly clear it was a mistake for anybody to

516
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Speaker 3: let him sit on his couch this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Steelers have needed their quote unquote backup quarterback for the

518
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: first four weeks of season. Justin Fields, of course, getting

519
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: the start after Russell Wilson aggravated that calf on the

520
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday practice before the season opener. You know,

521
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: at this point you've gone through the first three games,

522
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: They're three and zero. They're not doing a ton on offense,

523
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Speaker 1: but Field's probably played his best game in Week three.

524
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Speaker 1: Then yesterday Ian not as good for the Steelers, not

525
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: as good for Justin Fields in that loss to the Colts.

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Speaker 1: You reported on the pregame show, Russell Wilson's getting pretty

527
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Speaker 1: close to full health. So what do you anticipate the

528
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: discussion is like in Steelers headquarters this week would be.

529
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Speaker 4: Very, very hard to go away from Justin Fields now.

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Speaker 4: But what so, there's a couple of things. First of all,

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Speaker 4: I guess Fields didn't play as well this time, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think he played bad at all. Numbers are

533
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: good although they were sort of coming from behind, so whatever.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that would sort of be a little

535
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Speaker 4: bit cause for is you started to see a small

536
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: bit of what you saw last year with the Chicago Bears,

537
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 4: where it was like trying to do a little bit

538
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: too much. Not instead of just throwing the ball away,

539
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: it takes like a fifteen yard sack, and you're sort

540
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: of like, I just be smart, be efficient, be what

541
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: you've done.

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00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: You know.

543
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: I don't think they go away from I believe that

544
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: he has named the starter should be this week. I

545
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 4: believe Russell Wilson is, you know, sounds like it's close day.

546
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: If he wasn't healthy last week, then sounds like he'll

547
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Speaker 4: be healthy this week. But I would also say because

548
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: Fields was he's been up for three games, a little

549
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: down this game, it does kind of open the door,

550
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Speaker 4: and every time he struggles a little bit, it's gonna

551
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 4: be can we see Russ now? Now. I don't know

552
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: that the offense is gonna look better with Russell Wilson,

553
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: I do not, but I know that everyone's gonna ask

554
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: about it until we see him. So even if Fields

555
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: his name today or I guess it'd be Tuesday, Even

556
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: if Fields his name tood Day. Then this is literally

557
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: never going to go away unless they get like, you know,

558
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 4: eight and one in Fields, puts up the numbers like

559
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: you did the first three games.

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00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching part of that game yesterday, and

561
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: at first it did I actually thought he was better

562
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: Later in the game. In the beginning he looked a

563
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: little rough, and I thought, and I was already thinking like,

564
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: could this be the door opening that they need if

565
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: they want to make the move to Russ And then

566
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: things stabilized and they started coming back, and I thought

567
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: it might win. I thought that game yesterday was more

568
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: about the defense than it was the offense. The offense

569
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 3: wasn't great, but it was more about the defense, right,

570
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: And I did not think that at that point there

571
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: was enough Like I was watching it and I thought,

572
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: is he playing bad enough that you would pull the plug?

573
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 4: Now?

574
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: I didn't think so, but certainly, you know, if you

575
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: have more games like that, I think it makes the

576
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: decision a little bit harder. As you said, I don't

577
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: you know what ends this conversation once and for all.

578
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: I guess if he puts up bigger numbers in the

579
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: offense is just exploding and they're winning consistently, you know,

580
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: but they got a tough one this week against Dallas.

581
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: Dallas is obviously very banked up on defense. But you know,

582
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: that's the kind of game where theoretically you would think

583
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: they're going to have to score some points.

584
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: And so you know, when is that game that night

585
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: game someday and I can so.

586
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: You know, that may be right, and that may be

587
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: the moment where you have to, you know, see justin

588
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: field to do it, like you're probably gonna have to

589
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: put up some points.

590
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm still in the mind that we're going to see

591
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson at some point this season, just kind of

592
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: knowing out like Tomlin thinks, and the loyalty that he has,

593
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: is that something you do in advance of going to

594
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: justin fields full time? Do you do it now and

595
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: give Russe a shot and then you can always go

596
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: back to fields later that there's a lot of dynamics.

597
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: Everything I've heard beyond the scenes with Russell Wilson has

598
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: been very very positive in the building, even with him

599
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: not playing, in terms of things he's doing in the community,

600
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: how he is around teammates. You can see him on

601
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: the sideline. He's always engaged but if at some point

602
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: it becomes clear he's not playing anytime soon. That's where

603
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: sometimes with a prideful guy like Russell Wilson who still

604
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: wants to you know, put you know, go win another

605
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl or two or three and go into the

606
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, if you start to see that door

607
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: closed in one place, maybe start looking interesting behind other

608
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: doors as well. Speaking of teams that are still trying

609
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: to get to a super Bowl, how about the Baltimore

610
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: Ravens last night, I mean they were listen, they're zero

611
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: and two out of the gate, they go to Dallas

612
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: for a must win type of a game, they get

613
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: that win, and then last night you watch him against

614
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: the Bills team that only there's been a dominant team

615
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: till the first month of the season. If there was

616
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: one going into last night, you probably would have said

617
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: it was the Buffalo Bills. And you know, Josh Allen

618
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: said it himself that they came out, you know, ready

619
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: to go and just totally took it to him the

620
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: entire game. Derrick Henry, who, like you're not supposed to

621
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: be bigger and faster than everyone on the field, he

622
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: is still a tank when he busts Lucy In on

623
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: that eighty seven yard touchdown run, the longest in Ravens history.

624
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Top five fastest players in the NFL clocked according to

625
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: GPS this season. We thought so much about what this

626
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: was going to look like, and there were so many

627
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: justifications and reasons why, you know, certain schemes. Maybe he

628
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: was not the best fit for what they're doing right

629
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: now in Baltimore. Seems to be the absolute perfect fit.

630
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: And if they can gain some momentum here much like

631
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: he did, Like I was thinking, what's forced? It's like

632
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: mass time speed, right, the force of Derek Henry running

633
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: down the show might be the all time line. If

634
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: they have that same type of momentum as a team,

635
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, watch out, Judy.

636
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: Is that their accurate mathematical equation?

637
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: I think that's physics And I don't remember physics that

638
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: well because I remember just needing to get through it.

639
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I will say this, I feel like the Bills.

640
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: I don't.

641
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if you were about to say something,

642
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: but I feel like the Bills never recovered.

643
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: To mass times velocity. I was listening in the ninth grade.

644
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: You took physics in the ninth grade.

645
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: Jeez, I don't think I wasn't in college.

646
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: Anyway. I don't think they ever recovered from that opening run.

647
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: Like that felt like, you know, like the punch in

648
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: the jaw, and that like the Bills were reeling and

649
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: they could just could not get back up off the

650
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: mat after that. And of course it kept happening, right,

651
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: I mean he kept running. I mean you said like

652
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: bus loosely. He didn't even have to bust loose. He

653
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: ran untouched. I mean it was just so beautiful, such

654
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: so good that needs to say. That is how the

655
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: Ravens would like to play. They want to be able

656
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: to run the ball with Derrick Henry and michaelmar Jackson.

657
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: I saw. Lamar Jackson responded to some fans who apparently

658
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: were not happy with his stats coming out of the game.

659
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, could you win a game more impressively than

660
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: the Ravens won last night? I don't think so.

661
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Yes, if what your parlays were right is what I appreciate.

662
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: I do appreciate this from Lamar cutting right past the

663
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: fantasy football people and going after the over under people.

664
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: I think that that's a nice I think that that's

665
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: a and that's a solid next level Very twenty twenty

666
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: four burn from Lamar Jackson. It also had be sitting

667
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: back again one last night. I think that coming into

668
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: the season, there were a lot of people who thought, like,

669
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: it's the AFC that's stacked, right, the NFC is kind

670
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: of wide open, the AFSD because of the quarterbacks, because

671
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: of the teams. Then you watched early in the season

672
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: and the Ravens just don't look, you know, like themselves.

673
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: The Bengals are mired in an oh and three hole.

674
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I know that this was not ian a perfect Ormans

675
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: by the Bengals yesterday, but it's one of those ones

676
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: that maybe just you know, you beat the Panthers by

677
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: ten points, there's still you know, Panthers are a challenge team,

678
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: albeit coming off a really good game, but it kind

679
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: of maybe lets everybody go just next sail a little

680
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: bit here all the drama with Jamar Chase and all

681
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: the injuries. I mean, they've had a ton of injuries

682
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: for the Bengals early on in the season here with

683
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: t Higgins obviously in missing time, Trey Hendrickson got banged

684
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: up in that game yesterday. They lost every defensive tackle.

685
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: It seems like on the entire roster early on in

686
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: the season to just get that win. I'm not saying

687
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: that you put them in the same category as all

688
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: the other teams chasing the Chiefs just yet because we

689
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: got to see the Bengals do that against a better team,

690
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: but you certainly see it's in there, and when a

691
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: guy like Jamar Chase gets rolling, there's not a whole

692
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: lot of players that are better in the NFL.

693
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: I want to go back to the Ravens because you

694
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: interrupted me to talk about mathematical physical team.

695
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: US duty if she knew what yeah, orse was so

696
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: and I just explained to you that I had a

697
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: perfect dictionary appropriate response.

698
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: So I'm just laughing about the Ravens because we and

699
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: you know, the two times, spent so much time talking

700
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: about we're the Ravens going to trade for Derrick Henry,

701
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: so much time, so many conversations. It was so obvious

702
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: it was a perfect fit and if it didn't work,

703
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: it would be very weird. But it's clear it's working.

704
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: Like this is the most perfect addition that I can remember.

705
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: It's mentality wise, like they just grind people out, They

706
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: just grind people out, and like it was so brutal

707
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: last night, like the game was over after the eighty

708
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: seven yards and then it was just like a slow,

709
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: dull battering of the Bills, which I thought was interesting.

710
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 4: The other thing I was gonna say about Derek Henry

711
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: before I get to the Bengals. I remember talking to

712
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: Sylvester Krum, who I covered Assissippi State, who was a

713
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: great running backs coach in the NFL. And it was

714
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: when Derrick Henry was coming out of Alabama and I

715
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: said to him, because we're going over all the running backs,

716
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: and I said, do you think Derek Henry's fast enough?

717
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: And he laughed and he had this great, loud laugh,

718
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: hearty laugh, and he was like, I'm watching tape on

719
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: him now and I'm watching him run away from defenders

720
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: in the SEC. If he can run away from defenders

721
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: in the SEC, he can run away from guys in

722
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 4: the NFL. And he's still running away from guys.

723
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: You gonna say, that's like that's ten years ago doing

724
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: it now, right? Wild?

725
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 4: Part crazy Anyway, the Bengals. So I was texted with

726
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: the Bengals person the night before the game, and I'm

727
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: trying to understand what Zach Taylor is telling the team, right,

728
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: because like oh and three everything was bad, like doom

729
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: and gloom, and it was like, do you remember the

730
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: Titans game last year? And I did. They lost twenty

731
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 4: seven to three. It was terrible, and everyone said the Bengals.

732
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: He was like, if we just get this was the message.

733
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: We just get one, then you can get another. And

734
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: it reminded me of last year how they just literally

735
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: methodically got one and then another and then we're five

736
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: and three and then we're off and rolling. And I

737
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: so last night it takes the person back. I was like,

738
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: that's one. And so I thought it was really impressive.

739
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: I do expect them to reel a bunch off now,

740
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: and I think this was really encouraging.

741
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: They got the Ravens next week, right, that's a that's

742
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: a tough one to fall off.

743
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: I mean, that's definitely.

744
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: It's part of the fun in this early portion of

745
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: schedule too. And I know that there were various reasons

746
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: that the NFL wanted Judy to front load some of

747
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: these really good matches, but it feels like you're getting

748
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: a handful of highly consequential games everyone in September, which

749
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: is not always the case.

750
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I think that part of the reason

751
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: they wanted to do it was it's an election year,

752
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: and typically we see ratings for sporting events go down

753
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: because there's so much interest in the election, which has

754
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: not really happened yet. There is a lot of interest

755
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: in the election, but the ratings are still really high,

756
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: and part part of that I think is right, Like,

757
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 3: they have put some huge marquee games at the front

758
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: part of the schedule. I mean, we're just talking about Okay,

759
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: so you've got Ravens Bankals. I think that's a one

760
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: o'clock kick. So it's not even in a prime window

761
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: Sunday night is I mean, you know, I don't know

762
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: how much more of a classic matchup you can get

763
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: than a Cowboys Steelers game. Those are two huge fan bases.

764
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: So they've done a good job with the schedule. I mean,

765
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: who knows what happens as we get a little bit

766
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: closer to the election. But yeah, the the interest level

767
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: in the season has been amazing. We'll be back with

768
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: more from the insiders.

769
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: So entering the latest Monday night football double header, which

770
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: by the way, I like, I've seen people being critical

771
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: of the dooly Monday night games and when I've gait

772
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: at a Monday night game. It's kind of complicated, but

773
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: being able to have when you got YouTube TV. And

774
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: this is not an ad, I'm just actually saying this.

775
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: When you can do the side by side and then

776
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: you just click back and forth for which audio you

777
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: have on and you just kind of go based on

778
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: what games in commercial or what games got something good going.

779
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: It's like you create your own red zone. I actually

780
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: really like. But going into this doubleheader tonight, that's cool.

781
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: There are two windless teams in the NFL. One is

782
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: the Titans, who by the way, easily could be two

783
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: to one if not for two blocked punts and a

784
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: handful of baffling Will Levis' mistakes. And then the second

785
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: team is the Jaguars in the same division. One that

786
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: you know everything through the off season, from you know,

787
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: paying Trevor Lawrence to continuing to load up on guys

788
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: who can be impactful right now, to shod Con making

789
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: comments right before the season say it's the best coaches

790
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: and players we've ever had. We got to prove it

791
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: by winning right now. This was not a team that

792
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: you thought was going to be hing four. And I

793
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: know Judy Doug Peterson got some pointed questions that he

794
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: fairly quite apparently didn't appreciate after the game on Sunday.

795
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: But I do think that I would say this for

796
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: the Jaguars when you look at how they've played it

797
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: everybody's impression because it's the one game they've played in

798
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: the standalone window was that Monday night game against the Bills,

799
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: and that was terrible. It was really bad anybody in

800
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: that building.

801
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: Which amazing how those games make such a bigf right.

802
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: It colors the impression of everybody. The other three games

803
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: they've played, they should have won those games. The first

804
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: two just didn't close them out. They had a chance

805
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: to deliver a dagger on multiple occasions to the Texans

806
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: in the game on Sunday, Trevor Lawrence missus two wide

807
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: open touchdown throws. There's just and the defense can't get

808
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: off the field, especially in the first half. That's been

809
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: an evolving issue here. I don't think Judy, this is

810
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: a team that's completely buried from a competitive standpoint. Obviously,

811
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: it's been a long time to pretty rare thing for

812
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: an zero to four team to make the playoffs. But

813
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: only this is a horrible Jaguars team. They've got to

814
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: deal though, with some of these external pressures that are

815
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: absolutely unavoidable. Like it or not, When you get off

816
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: to this type of start, particularly within the context of

817
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: the expectations that existed, not just externally but internally too, well,

818
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: let's just let's.

819
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: Just pull back the curtain a little bit and give

820
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: fans what reporters think. When an owner before the season

821
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: said this is the most talent we've had, this is

822
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: the most talented team that we've ever had, that tells

823
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: you where that owner's expectation level is. And then to

824
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: have them come out zero to four and have the

825
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: guy you just gave a huge contract to, the quarterback

826
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: who's supposed to be the guy regressing on national television

827
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: and as you pointed out, played an They played a

828
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: hideous game in the national window, which we've seen before

829
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: year after year. Owners hate to be embarrassed on national television.

830
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they just hated and so they is it

831
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: does carry more weight than if you're losing, you know,

832
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: at one o'clock and nobody's really paying attention. It matters

833
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: to them more. And so that is why d Peterson

834
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: is starting to get the questions better. You worried about

835
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: your job security, And I know he seemed surprised that

836
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: he got the question yesterday and certainly didn't seem to

837
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: appreciate the question. But those questions are going to continue

838
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: until they start playing better and start closing out some

839
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: of these games.

840
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: They should be at least two and two.

841
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: They should have won yesterday. They missed multiple opportunities to

842
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: close that game that they should have won, and that

843
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: would have quieted everything down. But as you pointed out,

844
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: I mean, Trevor is not playing well and has not

845
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 3: been playing well really since lash de year. They gotta

846
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: they gotta change some stuff. I mean, you know, and

847
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson after the loss in week three said like,

848
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: think you know, things are gonna have to change, right,

849
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: Like we've got to change some stuff. Everything is on

850
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: the table to change. But like what really changed? And

851
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: you got the same result? And so now where do

852
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: you go after you say something like that? That is

853
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: why Doug is getting those questions.

854
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't love the storyline of like, well, are you

855
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: gonna change the play caller now? Like I just I

856
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, it seems like, well, you got

857
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: to do something, might as well just change the play car.

858
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: But like watch the game. And I know I'm not

859
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: saying anything about the reporters. I know, you know, all

860
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: questions are fair when you're owing to four ask all

861
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: the things. But like seemed to be good game plan

862
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: plays were there? Plenty of plays were there? There were

863
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 4: several Like there's like Tom said, several Trevor Lawrence misses,

864
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: like what are you gonna do? And like I could

865
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 4: sort of tell that Doug Peterson's getting frustrated too, because

866
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: he's like, we can't make the plays. And the one hand,

867
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 4: you're like, ah, should you say that about your players?

868
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: On the other hand, it's like, well, I also watch

869
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: the game, and you're clearly right, like got to just

870
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: play better. The I don't know. Look, they're own full.

871
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: That's a big pole. There's a seventeen game season. Now

872
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: you can climb yourself out of it. They are talented

873
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 4: enough to climb yourself out of it. But like, something

874
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: significant is gonna have to happen, because like how many

875
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 4: more of these are you gonna do until somebody goes, Okay, fine,

876
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: we're just gonna fire something. And if you fire, let's

877
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: say like you fire press tailor. Well he does the

878
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: game plan. He calls the plays. You know, he obviously

879
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: helps Doug Peterson significantly. I'm not sure how much of

880
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: that Doug Peterson does right now anyway, And so like

881
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: that's sort of it, Like that is that gonna solve things?

882
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: Like I don't know that that makes it any better

883
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: at all. I don't know. It's just it's not a

884
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: good situation. I've seen this before, you know, barring some

885
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 4: sort of dramatic change, you can sort of guess where

886
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: this ends. And it's just tough because this does seem

887
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: like a really talented team.

888
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: They made the playoffs two years ago after starting two

889
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: and six, so they have climbed out of a four

890
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: games below five hundred hole before. But you're thinking, you

891
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: got to get to ten and seven. That means going

892
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: ten to three the rest of the way here. The

893
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: margin for error is extremely slim, and the fifty five

894
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: million dollars per year quarterback who has lost his last

895
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: nine starts is part of the problem, to be just

896
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: totally blunt about it right now. Meanwhile, the Eagles have

897
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: a lot that are that's going on surrounding that team

898
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: as they head into the buy. I know Nick Sirianni

899
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: talked about that today. Some of the things that they're

900
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: trying to drill in on as they you know, once

901
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: they come back. They've had a lot of injuries, Judy.

902
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Obviously last week they played, i mean on Sunday they

903
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: played without aj Brown, DeVante Smith and Lane Johnson Pro

904
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Bowl potential haul and your top two receivers. I mean,

905
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a big deal, and that's hard to overcome,

906
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: particularly against the you know, a Salty Bucks team that

907
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: needed to bounce back from a really bad long here.

908
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: But there's still just you know, this kind of aura

909
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: of with all the changes they've gone through over the

910
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: past couple of years and losing coordinators, how exactly are

911
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: they going to sort this thing out? What kind of

912
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: team are they going to be once they get to

913
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: the other side of this and hopefully for Nick Sirianni

914
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: and everybody else there start playing better.

915
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: Right, I Mean, here's the big problem. Like the Bucks

916
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: came out with a head of steam and they could

917
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: not stop them. They the Eagles could not stop them, right,

918
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: I mean they sort of like the Vikings game, like

919
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: the Bucks ran out to a huge lead, so that

920
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: put them on the heels. And I mean, yes, obviously

921
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: the injuries are an enormous factor, but that doesn't explain

922
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: like why Jalen Hurts keeps turning the ball over, right,

923
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just got a turnover problem that they've

924
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: got to fix. And it doesn't explain why. I mean

925
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: Tom Brady called it coming out of the half, like

926
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: got to get Saquon more involved, Like get why is

927
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: sick one not involved until the second half of the game, right,

928
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: And so.

929
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: There are other things.

930
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so why you know, I like, have are we

931
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: sure that whatever happened to them in the second half

932
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: of last season that they've gotten rid of that, even

933
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: though they changed a lot of personnel and there's new

934
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: coaches there, Like, are we sure that's completely dead and buried?

935
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: Because they looked listless and that is just inexplicable to me.

936
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: And it's the inconsistency because in week three when you thought, wha,

937
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: they're dying, right, we two they're terrible, they're dying, and

938
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: Week three and then they look fantastic and then they

939
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: come out and have this clunker again, Like they need

940
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 3: the bye week just to get healthy, but they also

941
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: need the bye week to sort.

942
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: Of figure things out, right, figure things.

943
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: Out, Like they still haven't scored a point in the

944
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: first quarter this season.

945
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: That's what to do? How do you do? How do

946
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: you say that? As you said that it came right

947
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: up on the bottom, that's pretty good.

948
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: Oh, very good.

949
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: I did not. Yeah, but zero points.

950
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: Soon as you were saying the words incredible.

951
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: I have that kind of power anyway.

952
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

953
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need the bye week for a lot of reasons.

954
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: But they really they got to figure it out. They've

955
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: got way too much talent to not be good.

956
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: So I would say on offense, I know Jalen Hurts

957
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: turn the ball. I'm not as worried or whatever the

958
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: word would be about an offense. I mean, they did

959
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: not have their three best players, and anytime you take

960
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: away teams three, I know, it's sort of like and.

961
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: Then they didn't use the other best players safe.

962
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: One besides the quarterback and the running back. We're also

963
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: very good players. But if you have the top five,

964
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: those three guys.

965
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: Right out around three, right as right? Probably true? So right?

966
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: Not not use Saquon Like, I don't know how that happens.

967
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm not a play caller. I imagine that was not

968
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: the goal to get him three carries.

969
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: But well, this is always the knock on Kellen though, too,

970
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: which is that it's one dimensional and he wants to

971
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: throw the ball sixty times a game. I'm not saying

972
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: that's what factored into this. You're playing to what the

973
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: matchups are and what the kind of boxes you're seeing

974
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: and the coverages you're seeing and all those things. But

975
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: Tony's point, paid a running back that much money, you

976
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: would like to think in a game like that, you

977
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: might be a little bit more efficient and intentional about

978
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: running the football.

979
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: But like, look at the other side of the ball.

980
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 4: We watched the watch the Broncos last two weeks ago,

981
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: shut down Mike Evans killed my fantasy team to shut

982
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 4: down Mike. I know, Sir tannas possible, but like, defense

983
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 4: really did a number on the Bucks. Van s. Joseph

984
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: was having a great season as defensive coordinator, and then

985
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 4: Vic Fangio, very well respected in the coaching community, someone

986
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 4: who a lot of people model their scheme sect and

987
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: it's like that was rough to watch defensively, and the

988
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: Buck just had their way with him. And I'm sort

989
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 4: of like, that's not supposed to be like that, That's

990
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: not why they hired him, you know, So like that

991
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: to me the offense. I'm not as worried about Vick

992
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: Fangio's defense. I would say there's been one good performance,

993
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 4: but there's some others where I'm like, this should not look.

994
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he there was a reason that he's not

995
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: back in Miami either. After signing the contract to mad

996
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: h the highest paid coordinator in football, it lasted one year.

997
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: Guys like Jalen Ramsey came out and talked about it publicly.

998
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: I think Javon Holland did as well, that they didn't

999
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: like Vic the coach. They didn't like Vic the guy.

1000
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: They thought that his scheme was inflexible. We haven't heard

1001
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: those same types of rumblings here, but you know, certainly he.

1002
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: Came out and stead it. Somebody can went on the

1003
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: record instead.

1004
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: Of j Right, Yeah, so you know we haven't heard

1005
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: those same types of rumblings here. But the point is

1006
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: Vic wants things run a certain way. And so when

1007
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're going like, how does Bryce

1008
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Huff go four games with almost no productivity whatsoever? Well,

1009
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: Fi's gotta be willing to use him in certain ways here.

1010
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

1011
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: It's a long season. They need to get healthy, they

1012
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: need to recalibrate at the bye Uh. There's no doubt

1013
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: about that for the Eagles. There's plenty of other teams.

1014
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that sometimes the early buy, sometimes like

1015
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: the Week five by comes at a bad time because

1016
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: you don't need it. The Eagles really need it, they

1017
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: are super beat up. The Chargers really need it after

1018
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: two losses. With Justin Herbert, everything he does looks painful,

1019
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been bad.

1020
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1021
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: I thought the first half in Pittsburgh in Week three

1022
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Yesterday, I didn't get to see as

1023
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: much of the game live. I did see him, you know, again,

1024
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: limping around at times.

1025
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: He was hot. Obviously it was like the first series.

1026
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: She would hope over the next week you can you.

1027
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 4: Can do, guys. Do you guys think they did the

1028
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 4: right thing playing.

1029
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: I think that for Justin Herbert, the way that he's

1030
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: wired in the program that Jim Harbaugh wants to build,

1031
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: it makes sense because they didn't believe that this was

1032
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: an injury that he was going to make worse. You

1033
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: can play on a high ankle spring, you may not

1034
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: have the same mobility. It's probably you know. I don't

1035
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: want to say anything is easy, but It's probably less

1036
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: difficult to quarterback than most positions on the field because

1037
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: of how controlled the movements are. And you can, again,

1038
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: if you're able to go out there and function well enough,

1039
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: the ankle is going to heal. You just got to

1040
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: not tork it again, which is why you got seven

1041
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: rolls of tape on that thing the entire time. You know,

1042
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, for what Justin Herbert wants

1043
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: to do Judy in terms of showing his teammates that

1044
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: toughness and being there for him and knowing the era

1045
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: that Jim Harbaugh played in and the inherent toughness he

1046
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: wants to build into his programs. I wasn't surprised, right

1047
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: or wrong. Everybody's got to make, you know, different decisions here.

1048
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: But it's not like you put the guy out there

1049
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: with a torn acl it's a high ankle spring. He

1050
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: wasn't himself and obviously hurt when he got hit on that.

1051
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: But nothing I've heard makes me believe that by playing

1052
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks he's going to be any

1053
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: worse for where when they get back from the buy,

1054
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: other than obviously not having the extended rest.

1055
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: And he still gives them the best chance to win

1056
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: a game in any single week, right as long as

1057
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 3: he can function even marginally, which I think is where

1058
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: he is right now. He's certainly not himself and he

1059
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 3: can't move, but as long as he can function and

1060
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: throw the ball, he still gives them the best chance

1061
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: to win, and that's why I put him out there.

1062
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: But I agree, I also think the symbolism of him

1063
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: being out there is really important.

1064
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: I think you buy. I think you're both probably right

1065
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 4: on that. It's like if you're trying to set a

1066
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 4: culture like not that you need to like run out

1067
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: every injured guy to be tough. But like I think

1068
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: it was a little bit of like this is our guy,

1069
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: look at him anyway, I would sort of agree with

1070
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: you guys.

1071
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: Also, Ian, I'll give you credit for this. There's not

1072
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: many rules that I learn that I did not know

1073
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: before about the NFL. You actually raised one today, which

1074
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: came after I jokingly proposed a could the Eagles trade

1075
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: Bryce Huff for Hassan Reddick and just undo that trade.

1076
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: You actually were able to track that down. This is

1077
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: not something it never comes up because no one ever

1078
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Speaker 1: tries this, but it's actually not legal.

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Speaker 4: Explain I learned this today too. So this came up

1080
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: because I was joking with, you know, a personnel guy

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Speaker 4: from another team about how to solve the Hassan Redick situation.

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Speaker 4: And I made the same joke of like, obviously he's

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00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 4: just traded back to the Eagles, and it was like, actually,

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Speaker 4: you can't, and I'm like, obviously you can. It was like,

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Speaker 4: you should probably read the rules on that, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: oh cool, So I read the rules attracted down, got

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Speaker 4: a little help, and it turns out that you cannot.

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Speaker 4: So basically this long convoluted thing, but essentially you cannot

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Speaker 4: trade a player and then trade for him again until

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Speaker 4: two years or until like a couple of other things happened,

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Speaker 4: but basically you can't do it. Now he can play

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Speaker 4: for you if he gets cut. We've seen that with

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 4: Garrett Blunt maybe back with the Patriots. I think we've

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Speaker 4: seen that a couple of times where player comes back

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Speaker 4: after another team cuts him, but they can't just say Okay,

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Speaker 4: trade didn't work, just send it back to the egos,

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Speaker 4: because I think was like, it's trying to prevent friends

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Speaker 4: from like holding other teams stash.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's one of these stash the rules

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Speaker 1: that predate all the new ir and everything else.

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Speaker 4: It never happened, but like, yes, theoretically right. So basically

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Speaker 4: what that means is everyone's favorite. And I didn't even realize.

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Speaker 4: I did it as a joke and then I tracked

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00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 4: it down and tweeted. I did not realize, honestly that

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00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: every Philly blog had been proposing a we need to

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00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: trade for Hassan Redick and bring him back thing, and

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Speaker 4: so all of the comments were like, oh, guess that

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00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 4: blog post now is meaningless, and it's like it was

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00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: all like pretty funny. But I learned something too, And

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Speaker 4: what I learned is that I still have no idea

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00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: how the son Redic situation gets solved. But it's not

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Speaker 4: going to be with the Egos.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna resolve himself with being ten to fifteen million

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00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: dollars poorer before eventually needing to show up to prevent

1115
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: his contract from tolling. If he doesn't do that, then

1116
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: the Jets will just own his rights into perpetuity. So

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00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: we are definitely still walking the very long plank on

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Speaker 1: this thing. We got to wrap up here in a minute,

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Speaker 1: Judy final thoughts as we get to what used to

1120
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: be the quarter pole and now there's a seventeen that

1121
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: doesn't work anymore. You can't say it, but the last

1122
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: quarter of the race, just saying okay, the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: it's four quarters were at the should know that. Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 1: mister final final thoughts, Judy, what do you got final thoughts?

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Speaker 3: I still believe the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: Bowl despite everything we discussed earlier.

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting final thought. My final thought is has

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Speaker 4: nothing to do with anything we talked about. Cale Williams

1129
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 4: looked a lot better and all the focuses on Jade Dams.

1130
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: Cale Williams looked a lot better, and the team is

1131
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: good enough interesting to watch the Bears go.

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Speaker 1: And those two guys plus the other four quarterback taking

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Speaker 1: up the top. I mean, this is gonna be years

1134
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Speaker 1: in the making of following this and howeverything goes, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of it's contextual.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is the one who came out hot and

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Speaker 1: we shall see where it goes from here. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: thank you to everybody for finding this show, which looks

1140
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: a little bit different. It's every Monday. It is on YouTube.

1141
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: You can find it around six pm. Eastern Time. That's

1142
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: when it will post. You can find the Insiders as

1143
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: well Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday on NFL Network and NFL Plus.

1144
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:34,400
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1145
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: That is the NFL channel on fast streaming platforms. The

1146
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: free apps you can find on your TV. That show

1147
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: also lands on YouTube around I believe it's six pm

1148
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: Eastern time every Thursday, as well as on NFL Plus.

1149
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: And you can download the podcast. If you're a podcast

1150
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: or even if you're not, go to Apple Podcasts or

1151
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,560
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1152
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,520
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1153
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: news wherever you find us. We really appreciate you being

1154
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: here for Judy and I on com Sea.

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