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Speaker 1: Good news everyone, I listened to The Black Guy Who

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Speaker 1: Tips Podcast because Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy Who

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Speaker 2: Tips Podcast. I'm your host, Rod joined is always by

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Speaker 2: my co host, and we're live on a labor day. Okay,

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Speaker 2: today he's supposed to take off because you don't have

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Speaker 2: to work. But Karen wanted to do a show.

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Speaker 1: I ask, Now, I ask.

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Speaker 2: I know you asked. You wanted to do a show.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, I know what you want. The official weapon

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Speaker 2: of the show is no, it's not no. It's the

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Speaker 2: pholding chair and the unofficial sport a bullet ball extreme. Well,

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Speaker 2: since we're doing the show that you know we might,

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Speaker 2: I just figured we could talk kind of randomly for

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Well, the first thing I wanted to

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Speaker 2: say is just show no stuff. Live. Show is coming

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Speaker 2: up Timber the ninth, three pm, Downtown Charlotte. Tickets are

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Speaker 2: available Bloominthal the leaguas in the show notes Bloomahal Performing Arts.

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Speaker 2: You can also go on Google and just put The

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Speaker 2: Black Guy Who Tips Live and it's one of the

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Speaker 2: first links. Virtual tickets are available as our in person tickets.

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Speaker 2: Virtual tickets, though you can't buy them the day of,

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Speaker 2: so get your coins together or make your choice now.

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Speaker 2: But if there won't be like a last minute virtual.

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Speaker 1: Ticket so Friday, that's it.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, the in person tickets have come in.

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Speaker 2: People have been emailing me the tickets for the people

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Speaker 2: who just wanted to buy tickets to support but they

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Speaker 2: can't make it. I've already given away a couple, which

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Speaker 2: always happens every year. You know, It's something that I'm

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Speaker 2: always like, ah, man, should we even do that this year?

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Speaker 2: And then you know, lo and behold. Every year at

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Speaker 2: least a few people go, I would like a ticket,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think that's really dope because that's

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Speaker 2: fans who are not able to be here in person,

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Speaker 2: but they just want to support. But also they're helping

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Speaker 2: a fan out that isn't you know, that is here

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Speaker 2: but just might not got the might not got the five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it ain't not wrong with that. Sometimes you just

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Speaker 1: ain't got the five.

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Speaker 2: Right, And so I remember, you know, we had people

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Speaker 2: come from like out of town and stuff. It was

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Speaker 2: it was a cool It's a cool thing and I'm

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Speaker 2: thank you to our fans that enable us to do that.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is if you're gonna be there in person.

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Speaker 2: There's a beer garden and there's a bunch of fun

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Speaker 2: activities going on. If you want to get there, we

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Speaker 2: don't go on till three, but if you want to

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Speaker 2: get there earlier, it's a comedy like week in a

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Speaker 2: festival that's happening all throughout Charlotte. So just letting you

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Speaker 2: know about that. I'm trying to think, was there anything else?

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Speaker 2: I think that's it for that kind of stuff. Justin

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Speaker 2: is gonna be there. It's gonna be a good time photographer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's gonna be a fun time. And the other

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Speaker 2: thing I was thinking about, and you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have just Jail Covan on tomorrow, And I was listening

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Speaker 2: to his podcast right on Your Parade. It's new uh

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Speaker 2: rebranding the Righteous Prick, and it's fun and it's a

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Speaker 2: YouTube everything. We'll question talk to him about the process

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Speaker 2: and everything that came up to make that work. But

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Speaker 2: I think one of his first episodes, or if not

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Speaker 2: the first episode to rain on Your Parade, he's talking

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Speaker 2: about sag after and the writers strike, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I listened to it. I thought it was pretty I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's obviously very funny him and the guest. It makes

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Speaker 2: can't just be like I'm gonna shoot myself, you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm a quick comedy tonight.

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Speaker 1: You know. Nope, so you're bouncing off with somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I listened to it, and there were like

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Speaker 2: some arguments and stuff. I understand because I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: But then it keeps coming up. Is there's this like

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Speaker 2: idea that the writers are doing well. Right, it's a

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Speaker 2: dream job that pays dream job money, constant comparisons to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And as you pulled I guess you got to

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because on the one side, when we

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Speaker 2: a group of people in this country that say those

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Speaker 2: effect of like, yes, skilled labor, but what's the skill.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not that much skill. And I know Democrat,

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Speaker 2: more you're like, even that wouldn't work, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But we never say when McDonald's puts out something that says, hey,

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Speaker 2: We think that's bullshit. You know that that that that

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Speaker 2: y'all just want to keep people down bad and you

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Speaker 2: say it's these other things, you know, when you don't

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Speaker 2: want to see the black people that make a lot

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Speaker 2: of money for the world and for sports, billions of dollars,

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Speaker 2: when they say we would like to get paid, what

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Speaker 2: do we say, you're playing a game. It's not real.

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Speaker 2: this country. Right when whenever people start noticing that, hey,

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Speaker 2: the greedy people at the top are making the most money,

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Speaker 2: scale of what I can afford and what life used

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Speaker 2: to mean for me, right, we deride them like they're

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Speaker 2: the bad people in this It's like, because my man's

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Speaker 2: I mean type of shit.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's very frustrating and it's very irritating to

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Speaker 1: hear the arguments because what I've realized listening to the people,

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Speaker 1: shit fuck everybody else shit, nobody else shits matters, nobody

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Speaker 1: else shits counts, nobody else's. But but you fuck with

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Speaker 1: you arguing about your dollar bill something I don't know

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Speaker 1: nothing about within or I'm not in that industry. All

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Speaker 1: and you know, for me, it's I'm always pro labor

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Speaker 1: because actually, just across the board, everybody's making less than

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Speaker 1: they did before. Everybody, and nobody wants to admit that,

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Speaker 1: like like our parents, not great grandparents, the money that

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Speaker 1: we're making now would be considered quote unquote middle class.

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Speaker 1: Middle class is almost close to disappearing. And when you

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Speaker 1: quote unquote writing jobs and all that shit, guess where

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to that stuff too, But yeah, people

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's like we are so indoctrinate into American

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Speaker 2: You just don't want to you're not suffering hard harshly

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Speaker 2: never aimed at the at the billionaires. It's never aimed

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Speaker 2: at that one percent. It's never aimed at the people

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Speaker 2: not aimed at the streaming channels that are raising their

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Speaker 2: prices right the fuck now and you're paying it and

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Speaker 2: you love the content on the streaming platforms because you

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Speaker 2: watch it all fucking day. It's never aimed at that place. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and going well wait, why why are you charging me

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Speaker 2: twice as much as you were last year? But then

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Speaker 2: make content from watching you like that, like the thing

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Speaker 2: explains the monotony and the and the and the greed

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Speaker 2: that makes that is going, that that put that produces

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Speaker 2: that is going. We should get all the money, and

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Speaker 2: the people that work it should get none the irony

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Speaker 2: of that you know of, we will. And the only way,

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Speaker 2: fuck now, it's been over one hundred days. You, the

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Speaker 2: person consuming the content, you're not having a harder time

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Speaker 2: than the people that fucking are getting zero dollars from

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Speaker 2: it in the first fucking place. After they like you

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Speaker 2: most watched show ever, this show blank, this new show.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's the number one show on the streaming thing.

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Speaker 2: No one can verify it. Then they won't tell you

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Speaker 2: get paid in this industry by going my work produced

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Speaker 2: these numbers for you, I should be paid commensurate to that.

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Speaker 2: The fact that people think there's a two sizes of

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Speaker 2: this shit is I don't even know where it's coming from,

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Speaker 2: but here's am I said.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, you know, because it's one of the things

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Speaker 1: when people talk about residuals and all those types of things,

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Speaker 1: you at your job is very different than most writers

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Speaker 1: people do reruns and all that stuff, they're seeing these

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Speaker 1: people's faces, they're seeing it the worst they wrote. And

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Speaker 1: guess what, the companies get paid every single time this

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Speaker 1: shit gets aired. I did the work I should If

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Speaker 1: you're going to continue to get paid off of this,

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Speaker 1: I should continue.

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Speaker 2: If you don't believe in residuals for writers, why do

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Speaker 2: you believe in residuals for the company that made it?

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's that kind of incongruency when it comes to logic

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Speaker 2: we've been doing this podcast, and I've done my best

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Speaker 2: to not be whiny writer person or preaching to the

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Speaker 2: choir person and I think maybe I've done a disservice

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Speaker 2: because I haven't talked about the writer strike pretty much

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Speaker 3: The strike is a perfect example. Those guys would never

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Speaker 2: Now, there's something that I think is interesting about that,

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Speaker 2: People are coming together, democratized and saying we don't want

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Speaker 1: Yes they did. They basically came out and all of

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: There's ways to do shit like make you pitch ideas

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Speaker 1: And also the thing is for a lot of this stuff,

432
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Speaker 1: being on set matters because you're there for rewrites. You

433
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Speaker 1: actually make stuff better. You can actually do a lot

434
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Speaker 1: of things. And the thing is people that write when

435
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Speaker 1: they're on set that they see other things they see

436
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Speaker 1: how people do the production, they see, you know, all

437
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: these other things, and a lot of times writers end

438
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Speaker 1: up being promoted and going up. But if you block

439
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Speaker 1: them completely out and say you're writing, you don't do

440
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Speaker 1: nothing else, you're actually putting the writers at a disadvantage,

441
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times the work is not as

442
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Speaker 1: good as it could be if these people on the set.

443
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Speaker 2: And you can't divide and conquer because the other tactic

444
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: rhetorical tactic people do is like, well, I'm not talking

445
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: about those guys, I'm talking about Shonda Rhimes. You know,

446
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: if this is just your first job or your only job,

447
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: or you're right for one show, that's the vast majority

448
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: right where there's no way. That's what a union means.

449
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: You can't separate us. If anything, those motherfuckers have every

450
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Speaker 2: argument to say I don't want to do this, Like

451
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Speaker 2: a Shonda Rhymes has way more arguments to be on

452
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Speaker 2: the side of management in corporate than to be on

453
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Speaker 2: the side of the fucking other writers. She should just,

454
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Speaker 2: you know, she should just be like, man, fuck that,

455
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Speaker 2: I know, I got a steady job and the check

456
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Speaker 2: come in and then even before this fucking deal.

457
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Speaker 1: Right, and people fail to understand. That's why it was

458
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Speaker 1: a big thing for about Ola Davis when she was like,

459
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, you know that, because because she

460
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Speaker 1: had provisions that would have allowed her to continue to

461
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Speaker 1: do certain things, and she was like, I'm not doing that.

462
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Speaker 2: Viola Davis basically walked off the set of a movie

463
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Speaker 2: that had getten the gotten a green light and they

464
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Speaker 2: had agreed to the terms and conditions of the new

465
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Speaker 2: SAG after dial which some companies are able to film,

466
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Speaker 2: you know, certain productions one offs essentially as long as

467
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Speaker 2: they agree to those terms, they can work provisionally. And uh,

468
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Speaker 2: Viola Davis basically said, I'm gonna leave, so you can't

469
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Speaker 2: film it without me. I'm the star because if we

470
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Speaker 2: allow these companies to continue to do one here and

471
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Speaker 2: one there, they'll make enough of a profit possibly to

472
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Speaker 2: extend the strike. And so she stopped so they wouldn't.

473
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Speaker 2: And that's solidarity. She didn't have to do that, she

474
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Speaker 2: could have. No one was looking for her to do that.

475
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Speaker 2: No one's even been mad at those people for doing that.

476
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: Those are agreed upon rules in the union. But she

477
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Speaker 2: felt a solidarity with other folks that, at least in

478
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Speaker 2: that moment, that was like, yeah, it's okay if it

479
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: hurts my pockets. And that's kind of the point of

480
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Speaker 2: the union in the first place. Maybe it's hoky or whatever,

481
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Speaker 2: but these are the ideals that we claim to want

482
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Speaker 2: to see in our current fellow you know, workers and shit.

483
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Speaker 2: But then as soon as it happens, here'll come every

484
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Speaker 2: fucking excuse in the book, right.

485
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Speaker 1: And also, over the years, most people underneath the sound

486
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Speaker 1: of my voice, maybe with exception of a few, have

487
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Speaker 1: had somebody that they know that has been in the union, Uncle, grandma, grandpa, like,

488
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Speaker 1: somebody has been in some form of a union. Over

489
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Speaker 1: the years, unions are not as big as they used

490
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Speaker 1: to be. You know, government attack them to break them

491
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Speaker 1: up and shit like that, because the thing is, individually

492
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Speaker 1: you have no power. And the reason why you have

493
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Speaker 1: unions because shit is so fucked up that everybody looking

494
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Speaker 1: like they fucking you over.

495
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Speaker 2: Yet no one's ever started a union out of like,

496
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: people aren't starting unions out of greed. It becomes fun

497
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Speaker 2: that way in the future. You know, once once corporate

498
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: entities have their say and ship, then all of a sudden,

499
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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, the union was always a dirty,

500
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Speaker 2: corrupt thing, but it's like, no, the start of every

501
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: union is people getting fucking used, people getting exploited, and

502
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: then being like, fuck, we gotta come together to stop

503
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Speaker 2: the exploiting. And that's that's how shit happens. And keep

504
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: in mind, once you get the job, still it can

505
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: be a very difficult, demanding job. Is still partially because

506
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: it's a non traditional job. I'm not saying every set

507
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: is that way, but there's a lot of power and

508
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: work exploitation going on in Hollywood because which which is

509
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Speaker 2: why you have the unions. The unions aren't just agreed thing.

510
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Speaker 2: People were going, listen, I know this is non traditional work.

511
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna fuck you over. What are you

512
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: gonna do about it?

513
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: Back to the core right, because they can. And also

514
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: the thing that kills me and I've realized this, whenever

515
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: it comes to jobs that are creative, everybody lose their

516
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: fucking mind. And no, because you can't put a quote

517
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Speaker 1: unquote dollar sign on creativity. You can't say I do

518
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: this and do this, this so much is worth This

519
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: is the time. When it comes to things that are creative,

520
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: people get stupid and they act like creative labor isn't labor, bitch,

521
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: that's still labor.

522
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and the thing is, like, it's not

523
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: easy because people, especially with there being so much shit now,

524
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: people want everything to be this upper echelon of fucking

525
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: quality all that it's gotta be ten out of ten

526
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: or it just don't even count as a tempt at

527
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Speaker 2: this point. And to find that ten out of ten

528
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: uses a lot of work, you know, and not just

529
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Speaker 2: work finding talent, but work honing the talent. You know.

530
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Speaker 2: The amount of stuff that I wrote that just had

531
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: to pass through a lot of hands, things that I

532
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: thought was brilliant, and people pulled something better out of me.

533
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Speaker 2: All that process is labor, you know. But back to

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Speaker 2: the clip real quick. He's almost done.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I mean, but it's a change, and you

536
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: either you know, it's like anything that is. You know,

537
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 5: I believe in free market, but I also believe in

538
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: trust and then verify, right, meaning you know you don't

539
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: trust now.

540
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: I picked the meaning to be And Jim Gaffigan is

541
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: having this conversation and it seems like one he's not

542
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: necessarily an expert on it too. I don't think he

543
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: wants to be. I don't think he wants to be

544
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: combatitive over it. I don't think he wants to have

545
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: a conflict over it. So instead he's kind of talking

546
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: vague here, but when he says trust or verify, and

547
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: he'll try to explain later, but it's essentially streaming companies

548
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 2: do not have to report their numbers, and so in

549
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: addition to not wanting to pay people residuals for no

550
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: matter how popular or unpopular the show is, you know,

551
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: which seems a pretty fair way to me. You pay

552
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: people get paid more for things that people like more

553
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: and watch more. Well, in this case, these companies a

554
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: don't pay people those residuals too, don't have to report

555
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: those numbers. There's no verification of those numbers. So this

556
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: idea of we can't afford to pay you, or we

557
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: won't pay you or will tell you how much you

558
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: should get paid, and you just won't ever know if

559
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: we're telling the truth or not. That's what he's said,

560
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: Trust but verify. You can't trust those numbers because like

561
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: I want to trust the studios, but.

562
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Speaker 1: I need to verify correct y'all could be put in

563
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: numbers at y'all ass.

564
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Speaker 2: And of course these two men another perspective to add

565
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: these two men have probably had dealings almost directly with studios.

566
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Speaker 2: Jim Gaffigan has made it to that level where he

567
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Speaker 2: can produce projects, being project Star product. Bill Maher definitely

568
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: has had so like it's a little bit of in

569
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: their best interest not to shit too hard on the

570
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: studios in the first place, not saying Jim Gaffigan is like,

571
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: I think he's a nice dude that wouldn't be talking

572
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: crazy about the studios even no matter what, right, But

573
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Speaker 2: clearly there's there's a part of the point being there's

574
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Speaker 2: a part of conversation here that seems to be in

575
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Speaker 2: the interest of, at least in tone, being fair to

576
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Speaker 2: the studios. So to say trust but verify is like

577
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: a kind of a hey, I want to trust you,

578
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: you know point of view.

579
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Speaker 5: You know, like the reason I mean Zaslov made four

580
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Speaker 5: hundred million dollars and I think that they're they're looking

581
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Speaker 5: for eighty million for you know. It's like it's like

582
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Speaker 5: they're gonna, you know, you leave a kid in front

583
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 5: of a bowl of marshmallows. They're gonna eat the marshmallow.

584
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Speaker 5: It's not like some grand thing.

585
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Speaker 3: It's well, I don't know what you're saying they're only

586
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: asking for eighty million dollars.

587
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: Well, I'm asking that for a.

588
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: Lot of things. They're asking for a lot like kookie.

589
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 2: So the eighty million dollars thing is a number that

590
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: I saw on from a writer who was doing this,

591
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: claiming to do this math on Twitter and saying, this

592
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: is how much the benefits that the writers are asking

593
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: for will come to like or this is the percentage

594
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Speaker 2: of profit shared that we're talking about, according to the

595
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: numbers that we know from these streamers and these studios.

596
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't know the actor said that number. I just

597
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: know that's the one to spend. I think that's what

598
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Jim Gafune was trying to refer to.

599
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: No problem, like what I find objectionable about the philosophy

600
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: of the strike. It seems to be they have really

601
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: morphed a long way from two thousand and seven strike,

602
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: where they kind of believe that you're owed a living

603
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: as a writer and you're not. This this is show business.

604
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: This is a make or mis league and not everybody

605
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: You don't think that.

606
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: Like they should that streamers should reveal numbers so that

607
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: they can sure all right.

608
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: So that's the end of the excerpt. That was on Twitter.

609
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: I haven't heard the Hard Show, and.

610
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Speaker 1: I'm not funny. I don't know, but if I wrote

611
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: for his show, I would be looking like, so you're

612
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to say I should make a living? I should.

613
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: Basically this is what I tweeted when I saw I

614
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: was like, is this, I said, imagine being a writer

615
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: in his room when the strike INDs. You know, I

616
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 2: like and and the thing is I feel like it

617
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: was purposely not detailed, because Bill likes to be a

618
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: contrarian without giving you many details. But when he said, kookie,

619
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Speaker 2: I want to know what the kookie things are? Bill, right,

620
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: what are these demands that you think this? So what's

621
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: kookie about? You know? Because there's a person that has

622
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: benefited from the work of these writers and also benefits

623
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: from the old grandfather then old days of what you do.

624
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: It's it's easy to say now, like, well, why the

625
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: fuck do y'all want to make a living doing this?

626
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: Y'all should have to have two three jobs, y'all?

627
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: You know.

628
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: So what's funny is when you say it's a make

629
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Speaker 2: or miss league. That's what a lot of writers are saying.

630
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: What why, how why would I make? Does it count?

631
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: As a miss. Now, things that count as a make

632
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: now are misses, things like having a hit streaming show.

633
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Is that you Having a hit TV show used to

634
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: meant you were gonna basically be writing your future writing,

635
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: like like you were gonna have stable income for a while.

636
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: Yes.

637
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: Now with especially to aving a streaming it means you

638
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: get paid one time. It means it doesn't matter how

639
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: popular or unpopular it is. It means that you're you're

640
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: completely in the hands of what numbers they tell you

641
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: because they don't have to tell you shit. And then,

642
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: like I said, they never have to pay you on

643
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: the on the back end of that in any way,

644
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: because there's no way to truly Uh, you can't attribute

645
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: a percentage of someone's subscription to a TV show one

646
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Like I think you could find ways to

647
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: kind of acclimate it, but right now we can't say, like, Okay,

648
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: this person got Netflix for Stranger Things, but we can't

649
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: say they didn't, right, you know, we can't We can

650
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: say how much someone watched it, but then we don't

651
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: want to tell you that we the only ones that know, correct,

652
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, so then you could actually break down the numbers.

653
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: You go, Okay, you have out of all these subscribers,

654
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: this is how much time At every financial call they have,

655
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: they big up themselves, right, So, which is how we

656
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: know because they're holding to that shareholder. So all of

657
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: a sudden, when it comes to those meetings, they're like,

658
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: we had this many subscribers, we had this many viewers,

659
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: we had this many this we had this many new things,

660
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: and we raised the price by this much. And then

661
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: the second that writers go, okay, so you had a

662
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: good year. Where why can't we have a good year.

663
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: Our year gonna be the same no matter what. That

664
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: doesn't really make sense, right, So that's a big part

665
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 2: of it. And I think another issue in there. Most

666
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: people don't understand how the money works. So and then

667
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: and this is almost like sports contracts doesn't do this

668
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: as well because you know it's good for the agents

669
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: that is reported this way. But you'll see something that

670
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: says like this writer got X deal and that's Shonda

671
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: Rhymes and it's two hundred million. You go, oh, writers

672
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: are doing great, you know, but let's talk about we

673
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: can talk my numbers. Honestly, I don't mind first season

674
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: with Game Theory six episodes. This used to be not

675
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: really done. It used to be that you got a

676
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: minimum like a first season of a show like that,

677
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: you're like eight to ten episodes, right, but they switched

678
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: it to six so they so they can pay the

679
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: exact minimum contract of everything. So as a minimum to

680
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: contract or whatever, you also get the minimum amount of money.

681
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: So I'm sure there's people that got paid more than me, obviously,

682
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: but just in general, the idea was, we're paying everyone

683
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: as little as we can. Maybe there were some people

684
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: that were, you know, talent the producer that somebody may

685
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: have been able to, you know, do it differently or whatever,

686
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 2: but you know, essentially, the minimum money that you get

687
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: is all they're gonna pay you. And they tend to

688
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: be that way at all every level. And there used

689
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: to be a time when a TV show got approved

690
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: for twenty like somewhere between like eighteen to twenty two

691
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: episodes minimum. If it was like a sick came, if

692
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: it was like regular degular TV right cables, different all

693
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: the stuff in the rares, and so one of the

694
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: things that people are the crime is like, yo, we

695
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: used to have bigger minimum rooms, bigger minimroom episodes and

696
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: bigger minimum rooms. Minimum room is how many people write something. Now,

697
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: this is another way that you actually end up exploiting

698
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: people because what let's say, you used to have eight

699
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 2: writers to write a TV show, right now it's four.

700
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: And they don't like, they don't tell, they don't say, like,

701
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: we're only doing four people around. They just companies start

702
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: cutting down, cutting down, cutting down, cutting out. Next time

703
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: you look around, you're like, the new standard is four. Well,

704
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, that wasn't even an issue,

705
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: so to go, well, they didn't want this in two

706
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. Yeah, because in two thousand and seven,

707
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: they weren't making four person writer rooms for every fucking show, right.

708
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: They knew that it took more than that, So they weren't.

709
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: They knew that it took more than that. And it's

710
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: a reason why because when you think of about it.

711
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Speaker 1: The thing is the thing that kills me, is this

712
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: the general public. You want good TV, you want good

713
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: shit to look at. You want you want shit that

714
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: you can remember, you want your game of thowt. You

715
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: want all this shit, right, you want it. You don't

716
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: want no half shit, you don't want no eight shit.

717
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Everything gotta be a plus regardless. Well, then they're doing

718
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: things to make the quality less good of a quality

719
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: because if you go from eight to four, that means

720
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Speaker 1: you're putting more stress on these four people to produce

721
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: something and be as creative as as it would have

722
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Speaker 1: been with.

723
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: A It leads to exploitation because it's always still eight

724
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: people's worth of work.

725
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Right.

726
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: So now you know you're telling people to come in

727
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: different times. You're making people submit writing before the fucking

728
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: season even starts, when they're not getting paid for it.

729
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: You're asking people to do work at times when they

730
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: are told that you don't you after work? Correct, you

731
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: know you make that value less. And you know, so

732
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Speaker 2: listen in my in this minimum room, with what I

733
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: was getting paid, essentially, I got sixty thousand dollars in

734
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: those thirteen weeks, right, which sounds listen, sounds fucking lovely

735
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: to me. You know, used to make less than that

736
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: working a whole year at a company.

737
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Speaker 3: Right.

738
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, Number one, you're probably gonna have

739
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: to work get paid out of LA or New York.

740
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: Right.

741
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: That's all the money you get for the year. Right.

742
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: This is not a you can keep working thing. It's

743
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: all the money you get out the out the for

744
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: the year, but in thirteen weeks then you get hit

745
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: with LA New York Entertainment taxes. Yes, sir, you're entertainer,

746
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: which is a higher bracket than your average person in

747
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: the first place. Right. In addition to that, because of

748
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: the way the industry and is standardized, you gotta fucking

749
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: pay your lawyer, your manager, your accountant or whatever the

750
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: fuck you have to pay that to your agent. Yeah, yeah,

751
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: lawyer's lawyer, management agent. Normally you gotta pay all three

752
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: of they're use motherfuckers. They get your money before taxes.

753
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: You still have to pay taxes on what you pay them, though.

754
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: And we just happen to have an LLC.

755
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: But when you don't, and you, yeah, forget even that,

756
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: like because because you still gotta pay all your taxes

757
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: out of that. You'll pay your insurance out of that.

758
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: You if it's on the on location, you have to

759
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: pay LA and New York rent out of that, Yes,

760
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: you do. So my point isn't to be woe is me,

761
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: these people are so poor, so broke. No, my point

762
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: is to be they're not rich, they're not middle class.

763
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: The idea, Yeah, and the slight of hand is Shonda

764
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: Rhymes and Ryan Murphy. But the truth is, these motherfuckers

765
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: got roommates. These motherfuckers, they're not making the money, the

766
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Hollywood money. You're associated with Hollywood. This would be like

767
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: if the this would be like if instead of the

768
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: VAT minimum of like say five million dollars in the NBA,

769
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: if the VAT minimum was like seventy thousand dollars, and

770
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: then you were going fucking Lebron James.

771
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 6: Man.

772
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: These NBA players get paid way too much for this

773
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: bullshit they are. They're trying to have a work stoppage.

774
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: But I look on TV and I'll see blank, right,

775
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: because you're trying to make everyone go yeah, that's the point.

776
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: So that's a part of it too. Then if you

777
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: get paid to write something for a streamer, you don't

778
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: even get this because like, at least with this contract

779
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: that I got, you know, you play it on T

780
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: and T or what ever or just you know whatever,

781
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: and they don't always get the road he checks out

782
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: on time. That's fine, but you know, if enough people

783
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: are watching your reruns, you get some more money eventually.

784
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: And it's not bad money. If you have a hit

785
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: TV show, it can be really good money. Right, But

786
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: the streamers are trying, and the studio are saying, nah,

787
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: we don't want to even do residuals on that streaming stuff.

788
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: Right.

789
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: That's huge because the people that are watching and watch

790
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: on the same TVs, yes they are. Sometimes the fucking

791
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: streamers now are starting to put commercials back. Yes, so

792
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: they can make like Netflix with commercials, so they can

793
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: get advertising money to still not give to the people

794
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: that wrote it. It's like that don't seem weird, that

795
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: don't seem fucked up, And it's what it.

796
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Is, right because all the jokes aside. The thing about

797
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: when Netflix first started, I don't for those of you

798
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: that will around when Netflix first started, particularly streaming, the

799
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: thing is I pay my money and bitch, I don't

800
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: get no commercials. That was the whole purpose in old

801
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: point was to eliminate commercials. And now, after all these years,

802
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: you bringing them bitches back.

803
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. People are saying they're cutting the cord and they're

804
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: paying for non streaming channels and they're always bitching about it. Right,

805
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: but they never say to themselves like, wait, I'm paying

806
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: more money for stuff. Shouldn't that mean that the people

807
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: that create the stuff are making more money too? Why

808
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: aren't they making more than ever. If Netflix didn't really

809
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: have the foothold that it had in two thousand and

810
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: seven that it has now, why doesn't that reflected in

811
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: the people that work there other than the CEO. Because

812
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: we didn't say this about the CEO, No one ever

813
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: stops and goes, well, well fuck that. The CEO. CEOs

814
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: don't boycott because they get paid every time. It's because

815
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: they know it's stupid money that they're not worth. So

816
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: that you never heard of a CEO holdout, you know,

817
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: But somehow we turn this thing into you know, the

818
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: enemy is the fucking working people in this situation, and uh,

819
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's really frustrating to hear that ship.

820
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: And you know, Bill Maher is a dick. I've we've

821
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: known that for a while. And I think you know,

822
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: the his his lack of knowledge on things is reflected

823
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: is like always reflected in how smug he tries to

824
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: be about it, Like the wronger he is, the more

825
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: the more wrong he is, the more smugg he gets

826
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: to where it's like, but if I was saying that

827
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: it makes me right, it's like not really.

828
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Just sound smuggier, That's all.

829
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: Right, So that you know, That's a big part of

830
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: it too, is I know he's not one hundred percent

831
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: on the up and up in the first place. He

832
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: either doesn't know or doesn't care to know, and probably

833
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: doesn't know and doesn't care, uh with with the plight

834
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: of his own writers and ship. You know, the people

835
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: that don't aren't getting checks right now. Meanwhile, other like

836
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: night hosts are starting shows in other formats to try

837
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: to help raise money for their writers, to get money

838
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: throughout the pandemic, right, I mean pandemic throughout the fucking

839
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: uh strike. Yes, So yeah, I just find it kind

840
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: of I don't think it's and it's not that you

841
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: can't have criticisms. I mean, we're all human, I have.

842
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: There's things about the strike that I think, you know,

843
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: I question, like why people do certain things. You know,

844
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: Like there's things where like we are trying to make

845
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: it cute, you know that we're striking when most people

846
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: are like, look, man, I'm mad, I'm fucking I don't

847
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: have that much money and this is serious. But you know,

848
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: it's a lot of writers, especially comedy writers, like it's

849
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: trying to write some jokes and put them on signs

850
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: and wear costumes and all this type of stuff, and

851
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, on the good side, that's what

852
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: keeps everybody having positive motivation. In a dire situation where

853
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: we haven't been paid for over one hundred days, Almost

854
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: nobody in our audience would be able to make it

855
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: over one hundred days without the income that they were

856
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: used to making.

857
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: You bought up a good point. Everybody, majority of everybody

858
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: that you work with, they had other jobs.

859
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's that was why I was surprised to hear

860
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: Jail Covans take because I'm like, well to say, like

861
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: the writers are you know, almost like these kind of

862
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: spoiled people that just all want twenty to twenty two

863
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: episode TV shows and all this shit. It's like, well,

864
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: that doesn't even make sense. Most of the writers are

865
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: stand up comics, yes, they know them. Stand up comics

866
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 2: don't have no respect for themselves. So think how fucked

867
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: up it must be for this to be the area

868
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: where the stand up comics are like, you know, we

869
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: can't do this, you know, like even I'm not even

870
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: doing it in comedy, but I ain't doing it over here.

871
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: Like this is supposed to be the thing that helps

872
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: people get on and stay on right, And basically they're

873
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: trying to turn it into it's not the stepping stone

874
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: that it used to be. And we have to be

875
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: careful about accepting that because it's one way to accept

876
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: that in a social situation. This is a monetary situation,

877
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: so to say that studios can be more cutthroat and

878
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: pay less and do less for people. But at the

879
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: same time, those people who are already working hard are

880
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: just now that it's their fault. They need to work

881
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: harder now the strike, the one hundred days, are not eating.

882
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: That's it. This is the fight. This is the sacrifice

883
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: you claim you want to see people make. Honestly, it's

884
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: what's what a union does. Is why fast food places

885
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: fight against unionization for their folks, because if they had

886
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: the capability of unionizing, they would do a hundred days

887
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: strike and people would fold at the seven days and

888
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: no McDonald's fries and be ready to be like, pay

889
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers whatever. And it wouldn't be so bad if

890
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: you weren't paying more than ever for your entertainment, right,

891
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Like I could understand if that was it wasn't the case,

892
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: but you're paying more. The people at the top are

893
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: making more. The studios are claiming more, and then you're

894
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: going these greedy fucking writers wanting their one percent in

895
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: this pot. You know, you sound spoiled and and titled

896
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: what you want all your shows to be done. It's

897
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: like that's not even what's happening. But yeah, I just

898
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: it was like that was really the only reason I'd

899
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: agree to do a show today, because I was like,

900
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about this shit because I

901
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: just feel like maybe I've done a disservice of making

902
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: it seem like it's all good. I don't want people

903
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: worrying about me, you know. I feel like, you know,

904
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: having the podcast is my main thing and my main love,

905
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: and I because that industry is so dire. I actually

906
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: didn't spend most of that money except for anything but

907
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: like where I had to stay up there. But I

908
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: didn't really spend that much because I was like, I

909
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: don't feel like anything's guaranteed, and I don't feel if

910
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: you have a family or something right now and you're

911
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: in the middle of the strike, man, that shit is scary,

912
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: you know, because these motherfuckers are basically trying to break us.

913
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: And they came out and said as much as interviews

914
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: and I just don't understand. People came away from even

915
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: reading that shit and felt like there's a middle ground.

916
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Right, There's not a middle ground. There's just not here.

917
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said before, and I would

918
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: continue to say this, most people only care because they're

919
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: looking at it from a I wish I was in

920
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: that situation, because you know what, most jobs need unions.

921
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: People would not admit that, even office jobs, most jobs

922
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: need unions. Everybody actually needs to be paid more, everybody

923
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: actually needs to need rights and benefits and shit like

924
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: this shit today. Let started particularly, let's say you work

925
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: in a quote unquote office environment. You know what a

926
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: union would do would make it where if you're off,

927
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: me off, which means if I'm off, don't be hit

928
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: me up on fucking teens, don't be emailing me, don't

929
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: be calling me on my vacation, don't be acting like

930
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be on twenty four seven. Don't you know

931
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like like, that's the shit unions would go,

932
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: You can't do this. I've worked my time. Leave me

933
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: the fuck alone. You will be fine and feed. If

934
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: you do this, unions will stop a lot of micromanaging

935
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: and shit like that that's a purpose and a reason

936
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: for a union. But people that quote unquote have certain jobs,

937
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: they feel like their job is a real job quote unquote,

938
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: and anything outside of that is not a real job

939
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: because they can't see the labor in it. They can't

940
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: see the things that's involved in it. They don't know

941
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: the ends and outs of it. So they just quote

942
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: unquote dismissed it because it's easy to dismiss something you

943
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: don't understand.

944
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the idea that since the treatment of workers

945
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: in the United States has been down for forever and

946
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: it's just getting worse somehow, the writers shouldn't be saying

947
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: it is crazy to me because it's happened in this

948
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: industry too. These are the motherfuckers with the words and

949
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: the pens and the exmotions that expressed the angst of

950
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: many other people. But also just in general, every union,

951
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: every industry that has union workers has had to do

952
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: this in the last like ten to twenty years. It's

953
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: not a coincidence, it's a feature. The people at the

954
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: top are acting as greedier than fucking ever. So this

955
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: is what I wanted to do. Go through some of

956
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: the things for the strike. People want to hire conversation

957
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: for writers across the board for WGA, Okay, there are

958
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: more jobs available to WGA members than ever before because

959
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: of the proliferation of streaming. Pay for most writers is down.

960
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: Ten years ago, thirty three percent of TV writers will

961
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: paid the minimum rate. Now according to WGA, forty nine

962
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: percent are. Accounting for inflation, writer pay has declined fourteen

963
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: percent in the last five years. Five years, not since

964
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. Last five that since, that would

965
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: be since twenty eighteen, so you know, it's declined even

966
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: greater since two thousand and seven, the last time they negotiated.

967
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: The median writer pays down twenty three percent over the

968
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: last decade. That's with inflation factor. Then, writers say many

969
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 2: of their members aren't making a living wage. They're also

970
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: seeking increases for their pins and play and health fund right,

971
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: better residuals for you know, blah blah blah streaming basically

972
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 2: everything we've been saying. Streaming streamers aren't paying residuals. Even

973
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: even shit is fain hot, super popular, you getting reruns,

974
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: critical acclaim and all that stuff. They don't share the

975
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: viewership that are with filmmakers and writers, meaning writers don't

976
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 2: know how valuable their work has been to replace back

977
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: in residuals. The WGA is seeking more upfront fees. So

978
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: keep in mind they didn't just say, well, we want

979
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: to apply the same ratings that we apply to cable

980
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: TV and say when someone watches my TV show a

981
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: million times, I want the residuals I would get if

982
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: that was TV channel. They didn't even say that. They

983
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: just said, well, we just want to change what you

984
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: pay us up front since you won't even We're not

985
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 2: even we're not even expecting you to admit how much

986
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: or how little people watch whatever, because we know y'all

987
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: shady as fuck, right, so just pay us more upfront

988
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: to it right. Staffing requirements, The union walls TV shows

989
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: to staff a certain number of writers for a period

990
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: of time. At the issue right now is this practice

991
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: of mini rooms where only a handful of writers are

992
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: working on a series. Such writers' rooms are often employed

993
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: during development before a show is greenlit. That means the

994
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: writers can be working on a series that doesn't get

995
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: picked up for as much of the much as a

996
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: year after they worked on it, or not at all.

997
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: Keep in mind they be having you working like you're

998
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: working as a writer. This is not like it's a

999
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: mini room and you're gonna be doing less than ever

1000
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: so many room. You're gonna be working harder than ever,

1001
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: and even if the show gets picked up, we don't

1002
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: even have to give you this the process of circumventence

1003
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: some of the Protection's WGA members have from being overworked

1004
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: and understaffed. The use of mini rooms accelerated during the pandemic,

1005
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: with writers off the meeting by zoom, which is still

1006
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: a common practice. Here's another thing about the mini room thing.

1007
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: So because of how the industry is so you know,

1008
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: it's not it's like you have to constantly stay working

1009
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do this for a living, right, And

1010
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: because they've minimize how much work a thing is, it

1011
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: is now expected that you should always be working on

1012
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: all multiple things. Every fucking writer at Game Theory except

1013
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: for me, was basically working on at least pitching something,

1014
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: trying to get that next thing, selling the script something,

1015
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: because that they don't. You don't make enough to not

1016
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: do that. The idea in most people's head is this

1017
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: foiled and titled thing. If you work hard for X

1018
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: amount of weeks and then you don't do shit for

1019
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: the rest of the year and then you get another

1020
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: serious season and then you come back and all the shit,

1021
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: And that's not just that's just not what's happening, and

1022
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: it's not how anyone in that industry is comfortable. So

1023
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 2: this idea that people are saying, well, the writers don't

1024
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: want to work, they don't want to work hard. They're

1025
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: working hard and they're not being compensated for it, and

1026
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: that's not supposed to be the gig. The gig is

1027
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: you get paid for what you work on. Yeah.

1028
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: And also it's one of the things too where a

1029
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: lot of times people compare writers jobs to their jobs,

1030
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, with the exception of you know, we're gonna

1031
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: erase temping and all that stuff, but like your regular

1032
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: normal fucking job. If you was to come in to

1033
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: your normal job, like they hired you and they say, look,

1034
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: we're hiring you permanent, most people are gonna be like, Okay,

1035
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm permanent until you decide I don't want to be

1036
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: here no more, or whatever the case may be. They

1037
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna know, we're hiring you, but we're only hiring you

1038
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: for eighteen weeks or whatever, for a certain period of time.

1039
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: They're after that you just and so well, you're just

1040
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to basically go and get another job. Most

1041
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: people in office working they would not deal with that.

1042
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: And I know, bitch, you hired me. I don't understand

1043
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: why I only have X amount of days. So now

1044
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: I'm in a panic and I have to consistently go

1045
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: get another job. Ten people have to deal with this

1046
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: all the time. And this is why if prior to

1047
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: I want to say Reagan, prior to run Reagan, if

1048
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: you work the temporary agency for like six months I

1049
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: think it was six months to a year. After that,

1050
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: the job either had to hire you permanently or let

1051
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: you go. After that, they once it came on, they

1052
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: changed the rules. So now you have people that are

1053
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 1: quote unquote permanent temp workers that shouldn't be either hire

1054
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: me or let me go. You're wasting people's time, and

1055
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: that's the I ain't. People want to compare it, but

1056
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: it's not. It's very frustrating because they can only see

1057
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: it from they can't sit from their perspective, Like I

1058
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: would have a fit if I got hired in my job. Blad.

1059
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, we only hire you to work forty hours

1060
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: a week for fourteen weeks then after that we'll higher

1061
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: at you later.

1062
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, I haven't even really reached out

1063
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: to that point. I agree with it, but I just

1064
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: haven't taken the time to try to make the point

1065
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: because I'm I don't know that you need to live

1066
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: like this to understand it, you know. I think I

1067
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: can understand what it's like and when people explain their plight,

1068
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: and I haven't always experienced those things anyway. Shorter exclusivity

1069
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: deals many of the rooms around TV writing are also

1070
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: still based on a now increasingly outdated model. Writers might

1071
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: have once suspected to spend a year working on the

1072
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty five episode season. Now the average

1073
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 2: season is much shorter. Popular shows like Bridgeton might only

1074
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: have eight episodes. So not only does that the minutes

1075
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: to writers pay per episode, right, because it used to

1076
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: be you gotta write a job twenty two to twenty

1077
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: five episodes in a season, you really could work once

1078
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: a year on one show and good anyway, But not

1079
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: all shows were that long anyway. But not only does

1080
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: that diminute writers paper episode, it can limit them from

1081
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: working on other programs if they're tied to longer terms

1082
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: exclusivity so basically what they do is the exclusivity is

1083
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: not written in as you know, well, since you're only

1084
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: doing six episodes, you're exclusive for the time it takes

1085
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: to make these six episodes and then you can go

1086
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: do whatever. Some of these exclusivity deals are like years.

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00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: It's the yeah, it's like, you're here for four years,

1088
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, but you're giving me not four

1089
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: years worth of money to go with my four years

1090
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: worth of work because everything shorter now. So four years

1091
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: used to mean I have to sign this contract and

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00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: be at this studio for the next four years, but

1093
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: that's four years of twenty two episode seasons. I'm gonna

1094
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: be straight. Now it's four years of six to eight

1095
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: episode seasons. You can't be straight anymore, and you can't

1096
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: go work somewhere else because of that. And then of

1097
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: course the AI thing is the easiest one. I think

1098
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: that's the one that almost nobody's gonna be on the

1099
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: side of the artificial intelligence, and just the main thing

1100
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: I keep pointing out, the artificial intelligence isn't even good yet,

1101
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: and the studios are already trying to like get the

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00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: foothold on that to use against the writers that that's

1103
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: kind of fucking scary for us, because obviously the better

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00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: it gets, the then it will become viable as like,

1105
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: oh this like right like they're doing they're trying to

1106
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: secure this for now when it's the least threatening. The

1107
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: AI is like right now, most of us can tell

1108
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: something that is artificial whatever. And if you're just a

1109
00:59:54,040 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 2: fan a customer of these companies, you should feel a

1110
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: a little fucking insulted that they just told you we're

1111
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: gonna give you some computer written bullshit that isn't good.

1112
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: You can tell it. Got six fingers on the picture

1113
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: already and twelve thumbs you could tell. So we're gonna

1114
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: just sell you that because you're so fucking stupid. And

1115
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: keep in mind, as we're saying this, we're raising our prices.

1116
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: Disney is shitting on their writer, like their Bob Igers,

1117
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: like low Ki, trying to shit on the quality of

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01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: the Disney stuff to be like, we got to get

1119
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: out of this whole Marvel and Star Wars thing that

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of people that bought our streaming services,

1121
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: oh that's the only thing they watch. But we need

1122
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: to get out of this business. And our quality has

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01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: gotten bad, and these writers want money. We're doing this

1124
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: for you consumer. By the way, Disney's going up to

1125
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: twenty two dollars this morth and it's like, wait, wait

1126
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: a minute, now, how can all that be true? So

1127
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: you think the dude that's trying to fuck your pockets

1128
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: isn't trying to fuck the people that works for them pockets.

1129
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: Is that what you think? Because that don't make sense.

1130
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that I just wanted to get

1131
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: that off my chest. I know that has nothing doing nothing.

1132
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't no problem. It's really important. I know for

1133
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people there, they particularly if you've been

1134
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: online and things like that, you've been kind of seeing this,

1135
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: uh go up and down your timeline and your Facebook

1136
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: feed or Instagram and you know, TikTok. And for a

1137
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: lot of people, they literally have no idea, you know,

1138
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: they don't know how it works. They don't understand. They

1139
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: have these myths, they have these theories, but they really

1140
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot of moving parts and moving

1141
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: factors to this. And it's it's wild how workers fuss

1142
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: at workers for getting paid more, because basically workers get

1143
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: the angriest at the other workers. I don't understand, but

1144
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: you actually need to get paid more at your job too, right,

1145
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: you know. But instead of you know, going and being like, hey,

1146
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: I need to be paid more, is no, they's wrong

1147
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: with you for pointing the fact that I need to

1148
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: be paid more. It's you, So I don't know how

1149
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: to handle this, so I'll get mad at you.

1150
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: And the thing for me is like when everybody does

1151
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: this half a Republican bullshit, they always ten ignore that

1152
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 2: these are the same talking points and they use them

1153
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: individually against everybody. Like, like I said at the beginning,

1154
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: it's the hey are you doing this flipping burgers? Hey

1155
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: are you doing this? Right in the show? Hey are

1156
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: you doing this? Teaching some kids? Hey are you doing this?

1157
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: Being the nurse that in the emergency room? And it's

1158
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: like yeah, individually though, that doesn't make no fucking sense.

1159
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: And when it comes to the unions finding money, they

1160
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: always find money for the cops. Police union budget the

1161
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: biggest in the fucking state. Every year. They always find

1162
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 2: the money for the cops. But this is the only

1163
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: union that's wrong, you know. And the teachers union and

1164
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: the railroad union, oh in the USP, the ups union

1165
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: and these niggas just want air conditioning, right, and they.

1166
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: And in the railroad you and you are like, well, bitch,

1167
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: you know that a lot of these unions, you know,

1168
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: some of them started decades ago because of the mistreatment,

1169
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: like you've got to pay people, and a lot of

1170
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: times people under esther the general public underestimate, particularly with

1171
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 1: some of the larger unions, how much this shit impacts them.

1172
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: Particularly let's say you get to the truckers union or

1173
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: the railroad union. Most of your shit comes by truck

1174
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: or by train. If them motherfuckers are like, fuck y'all.

1175
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: Nothing you you in today, nothing you ain't no eighteen

1176
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: riddles rolling, everything would fucking stop, it would literally stop.

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: But people just you want your Amazon package, You want

1178
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: your food delivered, you want your Hello fresh, whatever it is.

1179
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: You just want it there and how it gets to

1180
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: you be damned, and you don't care that people are

1181
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: working below minimum wage in bad conditions, working themselves to death,

1182
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: not getting paid enough, not getting no insuance, like like

1183
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it really does not matter. But when it

1184
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: comes to my job, I expect to get paid the best.

1185
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: All my work is value, all my work is worth something.

1186
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Everything I do. I need to get paid every motherfucking

1187
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: dime for everything that I do. You know, I can

1188
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: negotiate that, I can stand up for blah blah blah

1189
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: blah blah blah whatever it is, okay, but you won't

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: extend that to other people in other industries who are

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01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: also workers.

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's just you know, and the idea

1193
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: that like, well, y'all didn't care about the other workers,

1194
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: that's not even true. That just it's just some fucking

1195
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: uh straw man shit. It's just like who made your

1196
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: TV show about the Amazon people? It was fucking writers

1197
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: and directors and shit and actors acting in it. Like

1198
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: how the fuck you somehow get better than this?

1199
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: Right?

1200
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: That's crazy to me.

1201
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: And also it's it's kind of connected, but it's a

1202
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: little off top big, particularly when people attack unions and

1203
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: shit like this and they don't want to pay and

1204
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about the teachers' union. Qualified teachers

1205
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: have kind of taintd because teachers are like, I am

1206
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: not going to school, getting in debt, getting these degrees

1207
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: to get in here and get mother fucking screwed over.

1208
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: I refuse, And you know what happens, all of a sudden,

1209
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: the standards started lowering. The standards started lowering because people go, well, fucking, fucking,

1210
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: fucking fucking teacher, fuck them. Because you people go, well,

1211
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that.

1212
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: You do.

1213
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: The lawmakers pass laws and shit like that against a

1214
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of this shit, and so it becomes and every

1215
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: time something gets cut, what is it. It's music education,

1216
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: it's you know, sports education, it's education. A lot of times,

1217
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: get a lot of these big chops across the board,

1218
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of your state and local budgets, and

1219
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: so the quality gets lower. And what's gonna happen in

1220
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: some of these other injuries. Their quality is going to

1221
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: get lower, which means you're gonna you're not gonna have

1222
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: people who I got a degree in this, I went

1223
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: to school in this, And people talk about they don't

1224
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: want to make this connection. All of a sudden, you know,

1225
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: you have to deal with not that this hadn't been

1226
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: in there, but it's been an uptick in children getting

1227
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: abused and all this stuff because you have people in

1228
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 1: there that are not qualified for the job.

1229
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I agree, actually, but yeah, that's that's like,

1230
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's my spell for the night. Really

1231
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: on it. We'll move on to something more fun.

1232
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad we talked about this.

1233
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I think between listening to that podcast

1234
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: still very funny podcasts and Jay I'll be the guest

1235
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: tomorrow and then listening to Bill Maher's smug ass comments,

1236
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: and it's just like, what aren't people getting about this?

1237
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: Or is it just we're in a society where contrarian

1238
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: is just we need to all be some level of

1239
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: like contraying to everything because it's times where I see

1240
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: shit and I'm like, there's not two points of view

1241
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: on this one. You know, there's not a middle ground

1242
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: on this one. And I you know, like for Bill

1243
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: Martin be like either with the Union or you with Trump.

1244
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: It's like where is that even coming from? Like Trump's

1245
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: not even involved in this number one, So like this

1246
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: isn't a Trump Republican situation, right, It's just like this

1247
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: is like this one is a what is your reason?

1248
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: What is your reason for being on the side of corporation?

1249
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 2: Continue to get all the money, writers continue to get

1250
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: to get less money than it was even a few

1251
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: years ago. I just don't what is your thing there?

1252
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: What are you what are you winning out of that?

1253
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: What is it? What is the what is the validation

1254
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: that's happening? And I don't feel the logic logic ing

1255
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: when when motherfuckers start talking like that, I'm just like, well,

1256
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: hold on, what are you gonna get to your specific thing?

1257
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: Will you act like what you do for a living

1258
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: should be made something you can make a living doing, Like, yeah,

1259
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: that's kind of what everybody would like, and we have

1260
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 2: a union and ability to try to negotiate that that's

1261
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: gonna I'm surprised shocked to tell you that's gonna always

1262
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: be the goal of every single union, for every job ever,

1263
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: is to help the people who do it, the vast

1264
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: majority of them make a living doing it. To act

1265
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: like that's some type of weird ass like thing that

1266
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: that nobody else wants or is trying to get is crazy.

1267
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: Right, And like I said, maybe it's just me, you know,

1268
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: But a lot of times, in situations like this, I

1269
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: would be pro worker, you know.

1270
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you said, I know, I think most people would.

1271
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: But the way a lot of them talk is like,

1272
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: are you really that?

1273
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: You know? Not most people? You're right, most people probably

1274
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: would not be pro worker. They they I think most

1275
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: people like to think they would be, but they want,

1276
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, they want if

1277
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,480
Speaker 2: you know, the thing that always made me think about

1278
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: like my thing was like like people that try to

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01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 2: do the high minded you know, I'm I hate Amazon

1280
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: shit and it's like yeah, and it's like we got

1281
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: to pay the people, yep, absolutely, and my shit still

1282
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: need to get here in four hours. Now make it

1283
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: a humane conditions of four hours and not so like

1284
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: there's funny things and hypocrisies everywhere, but I just find

1285
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 2: I just find this idea that you know, these writers

1286
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: are these insufferable, spoiled people. It's just it's so disconnected

1287
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: from reality. And if there's been an issue with messaging

1288
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: to me, and like I said, this is just how

1289
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: I feel about it. If there's been an issue with

1290
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: messaging that's been an issue for me is I think

1291
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: too many people have tried to make this cute and

1292
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: make it entertainment for it because we know we're clowns.

1293
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: We know if people like you and they're laughing, they'll

1294
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 2: be on your side, like, yeah, pay the cute writers.

1295
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it's not cute.

1296
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: And a lot of what we have to convey is

1297
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 2: while y'all are looking because we're all the social media people,

1298
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: were all the Twitter people, were all the fucking you know,

1299
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 2: you know, the charismatic funny. I want to see them,

1300
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: all the actors, all the people you want to fuck. Like,

1301
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 2: while that's been happening and people have felt entertained, I've

1302
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: had this feeling of like, yeah, but it's actually serious.

1303
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: Yes it is, so maybe not as funny as people laugh.

1304
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: Maybe the goal is not to see us marching into

1305
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: heat and laughing about it, because at the end of

1306
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: the day, it's pretty fucking miserable. And these these studios

1307
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: are saying things like we want to break you. We

1308
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: want these people to not have money. We know that

1309
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: we don't. We know we're paying them so little. We

1310
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: don't expect them to be able to last this long

1311
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: without the money. They'll just have to agree to our

1312
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: unfair deals like artificial intelligence taking their jobs and then

1313
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: paying them much much less to go and do forty

1314
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: hours a week work of fixing the artificial intelligence work.

1315
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 2: That's the kind of shit that's happened. And I'll be

1316
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: goddamn if I'm gonna sit up here and not put

1317
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: my voice on it, because, like I said, I've been

1318
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: really letting it slide, like everyone should know. And it's

1319
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: been one hundred days and it's not fun. And you

1320
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: don't see me on here joking about it and having

1321
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: cute signs and bringing all my writer buddies on so

1322
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: we can it's actually kind of fucked up. And fuck

1323
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: people that don't understand that shit. Fuck Bill Mahert for

1324
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: that shit.

1325
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: And like I said, it does not make sense. And

1326
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: like I said, as somebody who you know, looking from

1327
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: it from your perspective, and even before that I have

1328
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: I've never been a part of a union anything like that,

1329
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: but it's one of those things. But I've always been

1330
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: pro union. I've had family members that are pro union.

1331
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: I've had family members that have been on boards of

1332
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: unions that have to negotiate shit, you know, and stuff

1333
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: like that for decades. So you know, unions are, you know,

1334
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: a part of my life. So I understand the importance

1335
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: of unions. And for a lot of people, the reason

1336
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: why you make what you make, even in office building,

1337
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: is the reason why you work five days a week

1338
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: because of a union.

1339
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: Not to mention, a lot of the reason you see

1340
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: the diversity push in Hollywood is because of union shit.

1341
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Correct, because they have.

1342
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: Diversity standards, because if not, the studios would just be

1343
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: like number white folks, you know, because they're paying, they're

1344
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: passing rules too. Like it's just like unions also in

1345
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: America are very synonymous with like a lot of times

1346
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: how black people get paid union and government job. Yes,

1347
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: like like when you have like a union for the

1348
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: trash collected type people, it may not start out that way,

1349
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: but eventually it ends up representing, well, now, this is

1350
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: what black and brown people have to do to make

1351
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: a living wage. So already it's whack like that not

1352
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: saying that's what Bill Maher or Jail was saying, but

1353
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: my point being like it's a lot of rhetoric out

1354
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: there going unchallenged or just you know, like I said,

1355
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: maybe people are tired and they want to make like

1356
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: a hot comment, but it's just like it's not a game.

1357
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: And like I said, I just wanted to use the

1358
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: platform we have to reiterate the people. I really didn't.

1359
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: I get tired of seeing how many writers make a

1360
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: thread every day, how many actors make a thread, because

1361
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't feel like it's a messaging issue

1362
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: at least that's how I felt until today, I said, no,

1363
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: people understand clearly what's happening. We don't even really need

1364
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: to keep explaining it every day. But you know, every

1365
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: day someone come on and be like, I make this

1366
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: much money, and I know y'all think I'm this, this

1367
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: and this, but this is how my money has been

1368
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: affected by this, and this is what my residuals look like.

1369
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: And I would be like, man, do people really need

1370
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: to know that? That seems like it's not that big. No,

1371
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: they need to know.

1372
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: They needed to know. Yeah, like like with almost a

1373
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: Billy porter or came out and people, but that's the thing.

1374
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: You're going from job to job to job to job.

1375
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: And the thing is if you're bouncing around like that,

1376
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: you have to consistently have the next gig. And people

1377
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: on the outside do not understand how that functions. And

1378
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,560
Speaker 1: it's designed like that purposeful.

1379
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: Me too, Like, yeah, I'll just leave it at that.

1380
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: But it's like, if you there's a reason people are

1381
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 2: hesitant to put their eggs in the basket of these jobs,

1382
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: including me. That's and it ain't about because you gotta

1383
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: bet on yourself and it's a meritocracy. I'm fucking, really

1384
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: fucking good. You know, maybe I could make a go

1385
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: of it, and really if I wanted to. It's kind

1386
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 2: of the same reason I don't want to do stand

1387
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: up that that gig is so fucking finicky and not

1388
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: really based on anything of substance, and just the wrong

1389
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: motherfucker could just decide they fucking you over and you're fucked.

1390
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: You know. That was another thing. Almost every writer in

1391
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: that room had some fucking heartbreak story of how they

1392
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: got their work fucked out of them, and people said

1393
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: that people don't know that shit, so they think it's

1394
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: all good, you know. So I, like I said, it's

1395
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: a wild thing. But let me move on, Let's do

1396
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: some Uh, I'm still a little bit of fucking with

1397
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: black people. Okay, that'll cheer us up. I think that's

1398
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: what we need.

1399
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 6: Boo boo boo boo boo hoo boo boo boo boo boooo.

1400
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 6: We're justus fucking with them people because they ain't black,

1401
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 6: with us fucking with them people because they ain't black.

1402
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 6: Who with justus fucking with them black people. We're just

1403
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 6: fucking with them blacks. We're just wo fucking we fucking

1404
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 6: with black people.

1405
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: We boom, I said, you leave me?

1406
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 4: You know who?

1407
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 6: Who call them?

1408
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: Wont and dudes?

1409
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: Go?

1410
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 4: Who you know? I want to?

1411
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 7: Uh?

1412
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: Black people are fucking lazy. Texas company displayed hate symbols

1413
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: and nooses, allowed managers to call black employees the N word,

1414
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: alarm and e E O C. Lawsuit claims.

1415
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: E O C had to get involved.

1416
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas's old job. Uh can you believe it? T

1417
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: N T crane and rigging that sounds like a nick

1418
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: That sounds like a racist name. T T crane and

1419
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: rigging the dynamite. Yeah, I know, yeah, T N T

1420
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: like dynamite crane. Okay, rigging got two g's in it?

1421
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. Field racis to me somehow. Is is

1422
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: listed as defendant in a lawsuit filed August twenty fourth.

1423
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: It alleges that company fostered and subjected employees identified as

1424
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: Edwin Cragon, Lorenzo Smith, Freddie Campbell, and Jason Pradia to

1425
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: a hostile work environment. According to the lawsuit, employees had

1426
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: to grapple with the field manager as well as a

1427
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: number of colleagues using racially offensive language, including the N

1428
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: word on the job. I also hate symbols associated with

1429
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: white supremacy like noose and the lightning bolt stickers were

1430
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: openly displayed on the grounds with no disciplinary action. In

1431
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: one August twenty eighteen incident, Smith, who served I'm always

1432
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be, but I'm always amazed by when the

1433
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: incidents happened, and then when we're hearing about the lawsuit,

1434
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: this happened in twenty eighteen, it's twenty twenty three. In

1435
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: the April eighteenth, it's twenty eighteen incident, Smith, who served

1436
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 2: as a crane operator, was ordered by the field manager

1437
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: to pick up an air conditioning unit at Fort Worth

1438
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 2: Facility while working in Frisco, Texas. He was met with

1439
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 2: racial slurs when he asked the manager for help. Nigger,

1440
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: if you're going a bit about it, you can turn

1441
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: that truck around and take your ass home. The manager

1442
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: allegedly said, well, I'll tell you what, Nigga's never really

1443
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: followed by a nice thing, you know. It seems like

1444
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: when it comes with a comma after it, it's just

1445
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: gonna get downhill. It's gonna be a mean thing. When

1446
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: Smith attempted to report him, and stated in lawsuit he

1447
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: didn't receive an effective response from his management. Craton also

1448
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: allegedly had a similar experience while working as a crane

1449
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: operator at the facility. The complaint also says he was

1450
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: called the N word by field manager. It also alleges

1451
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: that Campbell, a truck driver, overheard his colleagues using the

1452
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: derogatory term. He later discovered that he also was being

1453
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: referred to as the white coworkers black daddy. When he

1454
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: tried to put in a report management he reportedly was

1455
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: to management he poorly was Tad said that it would

1456
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: be handled. However, it was not addressed. Partia started working

1457
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: as a rigger. That's why it sounds racist to me. Uh,

1458
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: crane and these riggers, that's what that's gonna be the

1459
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: excuse in court. They're gonna be like, no, we were

1460
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 2: saying riggers. I don't know what these black guys are

1461
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: talking about.

1462
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: You know, we work with riggers.

1463
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, these riggers are crazy, ya listen, I wouldn't get

1464
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 2: these riggers a goddamn thing. Rickas what rigas? What I

1465
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: mean he's saying we referred to him as the N word.

1466
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: But all I can say to that is rigor please.

1467
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean one of the coworkers they were dating them,

1468
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean.

1469
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 4: She was a rigger lover.

1470
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,440
Speaker 2: But we loved her even.

1471
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: Just the same.

1472
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 2: We didn't have no problems with that.

1473
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1474
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, he later discovered he was wearing die Yeah, okay, yeah,

1475
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: so he started working as a rigor. Probably start working

1476
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: as a rigor to come. In twenty nineteen, he claimed

1477
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: that one interaction a white colleague, in one interaction, a

1478
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: white colleague told him, a lot of black people are

1479
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: effing lazy. You're different. You're not like the other niggers.

1480
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: You work though, and that's what I like about you.

1481
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: Did he find that with boy? Was there a boy

1482
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: in front of it and a boy at the end

1483
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: of it?

1484
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: Why do you think that was a compliment? Maybe that's

1485
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: a compliment, soundwich. You start with black people are lazy,

1486
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: call him the end word, and that's that's a compliment?

1487
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: Sounds Maybe it's a performance review. The complaint mentions Nathan Cook,

1488
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,799
Speaker 2: a white employee who was targeted after reporting the harassment

1489
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: discrimination he witnessed in the work environment. According to the lawsuit,

1490
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: Cook alleged that he was physically assaulted and labeled a

1491
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: wigger and a snitch by his peers. Following his complaints,

1492
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: his hours in pay were reduced The alleged retaliation, along

1493
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 2: with other factors, led him to resign from his position.

1494
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: And guess what those are They that somebody can go

1495
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: back and check computer and paperwork and see, you know,

1496
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: like all that shit is time and date stamp, like

1497
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: you can't hide and race that shit.

1498
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the complaint mention is Nathan Cook or White. Oh yeah,

1499
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: I said TNT no only permitted a work environment. Blah

1500
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 2: blah blah. LC Best said they know what they did,

1501
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: so yeah, we'll see zeo T one hundred caren.

1502
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: This gets a Jakaris And this is a prime example

1503
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: of why you need unions because they would have had

1504
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 1: a standard and be like, you call me a nigga,

1505
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some problems and repercussions. Right, You're gonna

1506
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 1: lose your job when you report it. We have policies

1507
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: and rules and proceedures to step in and checks and balances.

1508
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: People are held accountable it. Basically it took them doing

1509
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: this for the federal government and you know they don't

1510
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: take anything. They looked like, oh oh you know that

1511
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, let us step in.

1512
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: I give it a drakars as well, because this is

1513
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: the highest level of racism possible. I call this Spike

1514
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: Lee level racism. Okay, this is Spike Lee movie type

1515
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: of racism, like that racism where you like, like, will

1516
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: you be watching a Spike Lee movie and you be like,

1517
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't even think this kind of racism happens, Like.

1518
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: I know, like, did y'all make this racism up?

1519
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: I know white people are bad, Spike, but this is

1520
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: God damn you know. They don't just openly say it

1521
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: like this, like this is that level, Like this wasn't

1522
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: a Spike Lee movie as a plot, I'd be like, Okay,

1523
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: it couldn't have been that bad.

1524
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: Well it billfooted too, no shirt?

1525
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 4: The fuck?

1526
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: Like all right, what he pull out a whip on them? Spike,

1527
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: come on, where's.

1528
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 1: The cotton field?

1529
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 2: But that's how bad this racism is. It's it's it's

1530
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: Spike Lee level. If your skin isn't brown, you need

1531
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: my permission to speak. Black woman declares white people shouldn't

1532
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 2: speak to her without permission. A viral video sparked controversy

1533
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: showing a black woman demanding permission from white people to

1534
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: comment on her public page or to speak to her.

1535
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: The TikTok video sparked interest as it shows a woman saying,

1536
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: if you aren't black, if your skin is brown, if

1537
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: you are not melanated, then you do not have the

1538
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 2: right to come under my videos. Talking back to my people,

1539
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: the video continued, the woman saying, your opinions are not wanted,

1540
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: nor are they relevant. All right, zeo te they don't

1541
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 2: even have a link to the.

1542
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: Tict I'm about to say, I want to see it.

1543
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the fuck?

1544
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: All right, let me see if I find a link, right,

1545
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,919
Speaker 1: because that would make a difference in the answer.

1546
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, white people can't speak. I don't even know

1547
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: if this is gonna come up like what fucking news

1548
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: I could come up from TikTok. Black woman, white people

1549
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: can't speak. I don't know Google.

1550
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna work out for it's might being here to

1551
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: miss y'all. We all, we were all gonna experience this live.

1552
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: We're doing it live.

1553
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have took those edibles. Oh no, I mean

1554
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: my brain to be working. I was just gonna be

1555
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: able to calm down and not cuts out kill Covan.

1556
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: If your skin isn't brown, you need my permission? Okay,

1557
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 2: maybe if I put that in right, and then we

1558
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: search the Googles for.

1559
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: This that sounds more like it. It's out just something.

1560
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: Well TikToker The Black Messiah sparks debate. Okay, First of all,

1561
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 2: her name is the Black Messiah. Isn't that movie? Oh

1562
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 2: all right, isn't The Black Massia Jesus Judas and the

1563
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:56,919
Speaker 2: Black Massiah?

1564
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 4: Right?

1565
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: Anyway? Interesting? I think pretty much I'm already out any

1566
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: of the professionally black Twitter accounts. I'm already like I've

1567
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 2: seen too much.

1568
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: What's happening here.

1569
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: That's not even the part I'm talking about. I've seen

1570
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: too much scamming from the from the professionally black crew

1571
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: to fall for it.

1572
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:20,919
Speaker 1: Is it deleted?

1573
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: It looks like it was deleted. Well, I'll be damn guys,

1574
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: that was She wasn't took it down. You know who

1575
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: would have had it? My fucking uh one of the

1576
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: messy sights.

1577
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm about to say that it is still up there

1578
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: so well.

1579
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,879
Speaker 2: They would have screen, screen captain, they would have recorded

1580
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 2: it screen.

1581
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: It's out there so well, trusted. Nothing disappears from the Internet.

1582
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I may have found it and see

1583
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: if I could share it with y'all. Oh my goodness. Yeah,

1584
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: I knew I had to go to a messy side.

1585
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 2: This is.

1586
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: Never heard of it in my life. Yeah, I'm glad

1587
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: I give a white skin is not around.

1588
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 7: If you are not melanated, then you do not have

1589
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 7: the right to come under my videos talking back to

1590
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 7: my people. Your opinions are not wanted, nor are they relevant.

1591
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 7: So why do you feel like you need to come

1592
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 7: and keep saying something to my people? You need to

1593
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 7: ask me my permission before you speak or comment on

1594
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 7: my videos.

1595
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: You come under my video.

1596
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 7: And say, lord, may I please have your permission to

1597
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 7: say something? Then you wait for me to give you

1598
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 7: my permission before you start tapping moving your little pasty

1599
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 7: fingers around.

1600
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: On my page.

1601
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 7: People have been talking way too much for way too long,

1602
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 7: and your time is officially up.

1603
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: It is black power forever.

1604
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, well, now I'm on her side. Hold on.

1605
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: What sparked that comment, Like what happened prior to that?

1606
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: I need to hear more signs right like this.

1607
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: I need to know what the white people say they

1608
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 2: might have earned this. I don't know what I'm saying,

1609
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: Like what happened for her to make that comment?

1610
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: Like?

1611
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: That's what I need to know because that that would

1612
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: dictate a whole lot she too mad for me to

1613
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: just dismiss her as like nothing, having like she's either

1614
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: like a hell of a grifter having some mental health issues,

1615
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: or a white person said something that deserve that ship.

1616
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh you want to jump? Okay.

1617
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: So I don't know no more. I don't know what

1618
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kid. It's a twenty question mark. Yeah, I

1619
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 2: need more information I have.

1620
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: My school is a question mark. I need to know

1621
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: what happened prior.

1622
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 2: To this sitting facts. I don't know.

1623
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, so mine is a question mark. I

1624
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: can't give you an answer this. I know what happened.

1625
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: Y'all ain't never ran across an audacious white person. They'll

1626
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: bring it out here. That's it, all the white people privileges.

1627
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,879
Speaker 2: Remote Now, how she gonna make that work on TikTok,

1628
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. She's gonna have to go. She had

1629
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: to go into every individual comment because I don't think

1630
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 2: you can put a racial block of racial You can't

1631
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: put like a racial boundary on y'all like blacks only.

1632
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: That's not how this worke. That's not how any of

1633
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: this works.

1634
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know how she gonna make every comment

1635
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: every every every what do they call those things? Stitch video?

1636
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how she's gonna handle all that. My goodness,

1637
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: that was amazing. Okay, that felt like the woman doctor Umar.

1638
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 2: That's another thing she could have woman doctor Umar. Points

1639
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: of view and politics. I have no idea.

1640
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 1: No, that's why I didn't know what happened prior.

1641
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: She also got was giving me that vibe of somebody

1642
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 2: that could that could be like. And another thing, you

1643
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,799
Speaker 2: don't need no birth control if you just drink juices

1644
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: and berris. Okay, a lot of y'all out here using.

1645
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Your alcali levels, right, ma'am, you shouldn't.

1646
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Even get a period if you're eating. Right, I'd be like, well,

1647
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: that makes sense too that you would be that person.

1648
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 2: All right, one more no, no, no, let's go guess.

1649
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so we're going to get the race.

1650
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do guess since.

1651
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 4: That that's the race. That's the race. That's the race.

1652
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 4: That's the race.

1653
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 2: All right, trying to guess the race, you know, the game,

1654
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: go around the globe, find different articles, care and guess

1655
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: the race. So there's the chat room. They're racist. A

1656
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 2: woman was arrested for stabbing her grandfather in the face

1657
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: after he told her to take a shower.

1658
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: Oh it ain't that serious, baby, Oh oh he want

1659
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: you dudes, get the phonk off your ass. You'll be like,

1660
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: fuck you in this folk.

1661
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Now I gotta kill you. You know look what you made

1662
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: me do. Uh. Police say that twenty two year old

1663
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 2: Louisiana woman was arrested for allegedly stabbing her grandfather in

1664
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: the face during the dispute over her hygiene. Carrington Harris

1665
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 2: from Keithville was taken into custody following the incident, prompted

1666
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: by her grandfather's request for her to shower on Wednesday. Now,

1667
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: I do wonder how was the grandfather telling her to shower?

1668
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: Like?

1669
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 2: Was it like a prolonged roast of take a shower?

1670
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Was just like a one comment.

1671
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Roast her for days? You know what's that smell?

1672
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 2: I think it's you.

1673
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 1: What's your ass?

1674
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: The cattle hair?

1675
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: That's how that went.

1676
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: The cattle pair of Shriff's office, said deck detectives at

1677
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Harris and her grandparents began arguing after they asked her

1678
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 2: the shower. She began damaging property inside the house, then

1679
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 2: turned the power off from outside. Oh that's some serial

1680
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: killer shit. Detectives say while the couple was trying to

1681
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: restrain her, she escaped the retreat a knife from the kitchen,

1682
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 2: using to stab her grandfather. After what, Harris fled the

1683
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 2: residents and hiding in the nearby woods, only to be

1684
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: discovered hours later by law enforcement who found her hiding

1685
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 2: behind a neighboring house. Yeah, this was not a well

1686
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 2: thought out playing. Either they were on her last nerves

1687
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: or she's got some other issues going on issues. According

1688
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 2: to reports, Harris taking the cussy accusa committing both the

1689
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: case of domestic battery abuse and one kind of domestic

1690
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: battery of abuse with a dangerous weapon. She's currently being

1691
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: held in Caddo Correctional Center where they probably make you

1692
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 2: take showers. No bond has been set. Grandfather's take it

1693
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 2: to the hospital's no update on his condition. Guess the

1694
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 2: race of Carrington Harris.

1695
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: Care, I'm going white? And I guess her grandparents?

1696
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 2: What another age?

1697
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Because you know you hit a certain age, they hit

1698
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: you with that elderly.

1699
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 2: Abuse m okay, or they might not have that law there.

1700
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: That's true too.

1701
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, and.

1702
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't blame it. Don't beating up old people.

1703
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's check the chat room and see what they

1704
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: believe her races. I think we must have a little

1705
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: bit of a delay. We do.

1706
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: It's a little slow sometimes.

1707
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 2: White, says Mary, going along with Karen prestigious, ridiculous, last

1708
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: name Krington really as a first name. I'm gonna go black, black,

1709
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 2: wet dog, woodland, white women smelling like assid outside one

1710
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: of them, free range white women. I hate you, grandpa White.

1711
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 2: The correct answer is Karen went with white. And you're

1712
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 2: wrong something you said Black, you got it right.

1713
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: Nigga's out here stabbing that Grandpa's.

1714
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Looks like black people go. Had to give up that

1715
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: whole joke about white people not washing their legs for

1716
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: a while because she was willing to stab her grandpa

1717
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: over the oh mm hmm. Yeah. I just pictured him

1718
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: being an old black man that just kept bringing it up,

1719
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: you know he did.

1720
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Black people, they get tired of you, they will roast

1721
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: the hell out of you.

1722
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 2: That's how That's how I think it really went down.

1723
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next one. A New

1724
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 2: York City driver in a Good Vib's T shirt charged

1725
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 2: with armed murder for seven person hit and run in Midtown.

1726
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Well, Damn, you had the wrong shirt for that situation.

1727
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 2: The woman told. The unbalanced woman told, oh, how can

1728
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: I finish this article? What's going on? Oh? The unbalanced

1729
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 2: woman told cops she paid to God while plowing in

1730
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 2: the seven pedestrians. Paid to God.

1731
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Praise, Oh, pray.

1732
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh she must have been prayed. That's a good point. Yeah,

1733
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: because that doesn't even make sense.

1734
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: Had to guarantee that person was drunk, under the influence

1735
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: or something.

1736
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, prayed to God. Yep. Imanie Lucas twenty nine

1737
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: was also who's also faced charges of assault, records engagement,

1738
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: and leaving the scene of an accident. She wore a

1739
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: gray T shirt and blazing with the words good vibes.

1740
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: No vibes was good about that.

1741
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 2: Vibes only she's liked the vibes was good in the car.

1742
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 2: She faced one kind of attempted murder for each of

1743
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 2: the seven people she struck. So oh. She was diagnosed

1744
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: with about politics order age twelve, was likely off her

1745
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 2: medication at the time of the incident. Ohs, So that's sad.

1746
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 2: Although I guess I was never gonna have a good

1747
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: reason someone ran into seven people, So I guess this

1748
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: is all was gonna be sad. I have reason to

1749
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 2: believe she's not aware what the charges are or why

1750
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 2: she's here, said her defense attorney. Yeah, we'll see, all right, Karen,

1751
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,799
Speaker 2: I guess the race of good vibes white.

1752
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 4: White.

1753
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Her name is Emiani.

1754
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Lucas, Emani Lucas black.

1755
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay, cares going black, so not one of the white

1756
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Emani's all right, got it? Uh? Black, says Trey Uh

1757
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 2: in the chat room. Uh, and that's it for now.

1758
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: Brown and down bad, says Tps. That's a black name. Yes,

1759
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: I guess Hemni kind of gave away a lot. She's black,

1760
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: and yeah, she she's wearing that shirt and three cops

1761
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 2: on her precind and she Yeah, she definitely looks desponded,

1762
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: like like, I feel like the only time people are

1763
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: running the people in public in their cars, like more

1764
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 2: than one. It's either old person shouldn't be driving, racist

1765
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 2: person that's some kind of terrorist situation shouldn't be driving, yeah,

1766
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: which you know, basically racist person in terrorist same one

1767
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: that's the same thing, and then or person that has

1768
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 2: mental health issues. I feel like all the articles like that,

1769
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 2: all right, last one, let's move it to the now.

1770
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 2: I've sufficiently given us a down there. Let's move into.

1771
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 5: It's time to guess the race.

1772
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 3: It's time.

1773
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 2: It's time to guess the race. It's time to gutch.

1774
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 2: The race man is arrested months after finding a bag

1775
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: full of five thousand dollars in cash in a parking lot.

1776
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 2: Robert Withington, fifty six, of Trumbull, contends he didn't steal

1777
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: the money and he didn't notice anything inside the back

1778
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: indicating who the owner was. He felt like he won

1779
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: the lottery when he discovered the bag with five thousand

1780
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 2: dollars laying a cash land in the parking lot, so

1781
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 2: he decided to keep it.

1782
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Shot shout telling people that much money. It's some drugs,

1783
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: some kingpin, some gangster, a setup. You better, you better

1784
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: return that shit in They're gonna come after you.

1785
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 2: Withington says it felt like he won a lottery. Three

1786
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 2: months later, charged at larceny, and it turns out the

1787
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 2: bag with Trumble, police said, was clearly marked with the

1788
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 2: banks insignia and found outside the same bank. I mean,

1789
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 2: it's not a hard mystery to all, but contained the

1790
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 2: cash from the town's tax department, and there were also

1791
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 2: numerous documents in side identifying the rightful owner of the

1792
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 2: cash as a town of Trumbull.

1793
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're going to jail. Somebody out there rushing

1794
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: and dropped it and went paying no attention and you

1795
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: was like I got there was like, no, the bitch,

1796
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: the hell you do?

1797
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

1798
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: Can you check the door? I think door dash just

1799
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 2: got the I'm sorry everybody, but I need to eat

1800
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 2: munch cheese. Uh but uh, this all no alarm, so

1801
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: the alarm, no golf, that'll work anyway. It is funny though,

1802
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 2: when you find a bag that has the bank envelope

1803
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 2: or the bank stamp on it. A lot of bags

1804
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 2: had a bank stamp on it, but it's not the

1805
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: bank's money, Like you know, that's more of a branding

1806
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: issue than of actual fucking Like, oh you should have

1807
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 2: known that, Like you did know the money didn't belong

1808
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 2: to you, duh, but you should have known who it

1809
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: did belong to. It's like, oh, not necessarily, maybe somebody

1810
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: stole it first. It's not like this is planned out.

1811
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: Everything was right in the moment and it felt like

1812
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: I hit the lottery. That was it.

1813
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1814
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: The money went missing. May thirtyth police said an employee

1815
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 2: and the troumble task collectors office and find a bag

1816
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 2: after arriving at the bank to make a deposit during

1817
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 2: regular business hours. Over the next seven months, the Texas

1818
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 2: obtained search warms, review multiple surveillance videos from local businesses,

1819
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: and conducted numerous interviews before I learned the bag had

1820
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 2: been inadvertently dropped on the ground outside the bank. First

1821
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 2: of all, y'all probably did more police work than five

1822
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Y'all could have let this one go.

1823
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 5: Uh.

1824
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 2: Secondly, I would assume if I was in a bank

1825
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 2: parking lot, I was under surveillans of some kind. So

1826
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that, uh, maybe he was just down that bad,

1827
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 2: he was just hoping against hope. But I wouldn't do

1828
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 2: I would have expected if I find five thousand dollars

1829
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: in cash in the bank parking lot, I would honestly

1830
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 2: think it was a trap because I'm like, I know

1831
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 2: they got me on takee Yes, I.

1832
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: Would immediately take that to the bank, take take it

1833
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,839
Speaker 1: to police station, calling now on one on the spot,

1834
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: like somebody with my thing is It had the name

1835
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: on the bank. The bag mind as well, had the

1836
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: two biggest dollar signs zone it. It don't make sense

1837
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: it had the name on the bank, It had the

1838
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: paperwork identification. Probably told you who dropped the money, and

1839
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: you like, this is my money? No, bitch, you going

1840
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: to jail. This is ridiculous.

1841
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 2: I walked out until yeah, he says, I walked out

1842
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: to the firelight. I saw some on the grounds. No, Dad,

1843
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 2: it's not like I stole something. If I knew I

1844
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: was wrong in the first player, I would have given

1845
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 2: it right back. I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.

1846
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 2: When police eventually interviewed Withington, they said he was knowledge

1847
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: being at the bank that day and taking the bag.

1848
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 2: He told them that he believed he had no obligation

1849
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 2: to return the back to his rightful owner. Withington, who

1850
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: runs a dog training business, told Hirst he never had

1851
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 2: a criminal record at his customers can vouch for his integrity.

1852
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: He was charged a third degree lars, a felony punishable

1853
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,759
Speaker 2: about the five years of prison of the five thousand

1854
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 2: dollars in five He was released on a promise to

1855
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 2: appear in court September fifth. Anybody who knows me knows

1856
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 2: I'm all about all. I'm about his generosity. After living

1857
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 2: this town for twenty years, I'm not looking for trouble.

1858
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Chad, you'd have been better off giving that money back

1859
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: because the files and the fees and shit is more

1860
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:10,440
Speaker 1: than what you found.

1861
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 2: Boom. I aren't care what was his name. His name

1862
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 2: is Robert Withington.

1863
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: White.

1864
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 2: Karen's going white. Check the chat room. By the way,

1865
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 2: this is for the record. I know y'all think we

1866
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 2: paranoid it. We've done multiple polls about this. But when

1867
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: I be like, if I've just seen like a bag

1868
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 2: of drugs or a drug or money, just random cash,

1869
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 2: when I tell y'all, I absolutely would be scared to

1870
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 2: pick it up. That's what I mean. It just ain't

1871
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 2: no money, come with no story, not like that.

1872
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Somebody is looking for Bence, No thank.

1873
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 2: You Finder keepers Black, look both ways. Pick that shit

1874
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 2: up slowly and hope. Don't nobody know this. Nigga move

1875
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 2: White free dog walker, not gonna block his blessing. White

1876
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 2: discovery White Bobby. Where you get that money from them?

1877
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: Scrimps and sea bass black, hard living black finers Keepers

1878
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: doesn't count after elementary school white of White Withington's training

1879
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 2: pit bulls black. I don't know how you deduce that,

1880
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 2: but Karen said white, and she was wrong. If you

1881
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: said black. You gotta correct.

1882
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: I'll go down for that one because the name didn't

1883
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: say didn't didn't say what. They called him a rigor and.

1884
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 2: The biggest clue was that he going to jail for

1885
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: picking up some money. Three months later, I said, that's

1886
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 2: a black crime for her one. I didn't even know

1887
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 2: he broke the law. And they was like, you broke

1888
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: the law. Dog company, right, Oh my goodness, training dogs.

1889
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Someone said fifth was that's hilarious but correct. I mean,

1890
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 2: let's move to the next segment. Soord ratchetness. Oh man

1891
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 2: m A man was detained at Los Angeles Convenience Invention

1892
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Center with a sword. Oh yeah, what kind of convention?

1893
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 2: Did you think it was? High learned or convention?

1894
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:48,480
Speaker 4: Apparently?

1895
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 2: Oh are they even is this a news article? This

1896
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 2: was like footage. Oh well, that's just ambient footage of

1897
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 2: the news. What are they doing? They're doing as ASMR

1898
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 2: now at the news apparently, So you need some music

1899
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 2: to find asleep, bond, Just here's the news. A man

1900
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: scene with a sore late Wednesday night in downtown Los

1901
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Angeles was detained by police and subsequently released without with

1902
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 2: a citation. Los Angeles Police Department Central Division Units responded

1903
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 2: around ten forty seven pm at the receiving reports from

1904
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 2: an on site security that was a man swinging a

1905
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: sword on the property. When units arrived on the scene,

1906
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 2: they were directed by a security to a stairwell with

1907
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 2: the suspect was last scene. Sussect was contacted by officers

1908
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 2: taking the custy without further incident. So all right, y'all,

1909
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 2: that's it. Care you were right, you know. I'm glad

1910
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 2: we did the show.

1911
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad we did too.

1912
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,719
Speaker 2: Even though it's Labor Day and I got a righting

1913
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 2: thing to do. I'm glad we did it.

1914
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: I am thank you for doing it with me. And

1915
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 1: have the Labor Day everybody shout out the unions and

1916
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,480
Speaker 1: people that are part of unions.

1917
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, till next time. I love you.

1918
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: I love you too,