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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome stuff.

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Speaker 2: Never told you a production of iHeartRadio, and welcome to

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Speaker 2: another edition of Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: As always, if you choose to drink or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You choosing to do, do it responsibly. H Samantha, what

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Speaker 2: are you up to?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Because of the sudden cold dip we have. I just

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Speaker 4: was sick a couple of weeks ago, and the change

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Speaker 4: of weather always get me sick. So I am drinking

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Speaker 4: a lot of vitamin C immunity buster type of things

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Speaker 4: right now. I know they're not the greatest, but zinc

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Speaker 4: and all that have been known to help. So I'm

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Speaker 4: taking some precaution. And so I have a mock tael

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Speaker 4: of like bubbly water h and the immunities though, because

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yep, need it, I'm already snuffy.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I have a hot Toddy. It is very cold.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday, not to complain, but for us just below sixty

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Speaker 4: come friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say.

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Speaker 2: The nice thing about it is I had some of

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Speaker 2: the best sleep I've had in a while because I

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Speaker 2: got so composing under the covers, and lately I've been

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Speaker 2: waking up and all the covers are like off the

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Speaker 2: bed and it's not that hot, Like I'm sure what's

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Speaker 2: going but I slept through the night nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's just comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have Okay, So this is our annual

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Speaker 2: Life Day episode.

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Speaker 1: Happy Life Day, Life Day.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe it's already Life Day if you do

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Speaker 2: not know, if you've somehow avoided it for all of

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Speaker 2: these years, even though it has gone really mainstream. This

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Speaker 2: is a Star Wars Christmas essentially, this is Star Wars Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's on November seventeenth. It comes from the hard to

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Speaker 2: explain a Star Wars holiday special.

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Speaker 5: I would like to say, you're not missing out. If

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Speaker 5: you don't know, I would disagree, but that's fine. But yes,

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Speaker 5: it's it's a it's a thing I celebrate every year.

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Speaker 5: I actually really love it.

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Speaker 2: But the reason this is related to what you're talking about, Samantha,

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Speaker 2: is this year I'm going to a strip performance, a

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Speaker 2: Star Wars performance. Strip's back, not a sponsor. But I

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Speaker 2: have a friend who is supposed to go with me,

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Speaker 2: good friend of the show, Katie, who are going to

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Speaker 2: be talking about in this episode, and her boyfriend is

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Speaker 2: really sick. And I said to her, listen here you've

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Speaker 2: got to take some precautions because live' day is coming up.

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Speaker 1: It's important we can together.

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Speaker 4: You been wearing masks around the dude man is.

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Speaker 1: Wearing a respirator. She's taking it seriously. Gotta do what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. Life Day is important.

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Speaker 2: But she also said he's really sick, like they're kind

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Speaker 2: of sick.

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Speaker 1: You see it, and you're like nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no thanks no. Which's just a reminder everybody a lot

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Speaker 1: like COVID.

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Speaker 2: Still COVID still a thing. The flu is serious. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so take care of yourselves. But yes, she she is.

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Speaker 2: That was like the first thing.

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Speaker 6: We both were like, oh no, not his health, but

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Speaker 6: oh my god, I did say, such a show. Hope

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Speaker 6: he feels better soon, but don't forget about life day.

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Speaker 1: But we have priorities.

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Speaker 2: We have priorities, and life Day is one. It only

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Speaker 4: I would say, they made the fourth and you have

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Speaker 2: This is the May yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: Okay, o, get well, well say it like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I am really excited. It does fell kind

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Speaker 2: Life Day, but it is. And speaking of time feeling strange,

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll come back. I do want to come back

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Speaker 1: For Life Day.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk about imagination, Star Wars and imagination.

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Speaker 2: So it's my good friend Katie. We grew up as neighbors.

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Speaker 2: I was so excited when she moved in next to

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Speaker 2: her because I was just like, we have to hang

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Speaker 2: out right now, and she said, you know they're they're moving.

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Speaker 1: You can't give give her some time.

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Speaker 2: And we had been we had been enemies previously, but

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Speaker 1: And also it was just at the time.

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Speaker 2: I would love other listeners wrote in about this because

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Speaker 2: I think about this a lot, actually more than I

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Speaker 1: It was so exciting.

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Speaker 2: Because, as I've said before, and I actually was talking

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Speaker 2: to a friend at the show Joey about this on

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Speaker 2: the episodes that you missed Samantha about New York Comic Con,

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Speaker 1: And we read all of the books.

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Speaker 2: And she would be right there with me doing all

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Speaker 2: Like looking back, we just had so much fun and

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Speaker 2: like she built, we would build Jedi training courses. So

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, we're leaping over this yarn all kinds

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Speaker 2: Duel the Fates the song. Oh yeah. And then it

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Speaker 2: upgraded when I purchased a stob light from Party City amazing,

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Speaker 1: It was green. We would have these battles, you know,

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Speaker 2: And through all of this, this is how I created

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Speaker 2: my character that I've mentioned before, Tara Polaris. She is

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Speaker 2: It's still back there, and I was very quick to

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Speaker 2: I would say, no, it's Terra Polaris.

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Speaker 1: Way better. That's a great name. It's a good name, right.

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Speaker 2: I want to use it in like a real situation.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, you and I were talking about going

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Speaker 4: I'm just the fact that you wanted to use is

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Speaker 2: that name sounds like somebody you would.

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Speaker 2: I think it sounds like somebody who has has some

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Speaker 4: Oh see, I'm imagining it being a lisleman.

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Speaker 1: So you see immediately through it.

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Speaker 1: I still think fantastic name.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is a good Star Wars name, but

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Speaker 4: I definitely would have thought this sounds like a Star

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh well, because it's that good exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that is a funny critique that comes

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