1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Honey, we are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Thanks take valoti. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: We are the authority. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: On all things R and B. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: My name is Tank Valentine, and this what is it. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: It's the R and B Money Podcast, the authority. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: On all things Who yeah. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 4: One more time? Who yeah yeah? 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: See see you wasn't desperate, you know, in your spirit, 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: in your tongue, right, You wasn't in the middle of 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: a desert with lover on your body, sweating your balls off. 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: To prove a point. 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Hmmm. 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: Not only was your eyes ryan, but your skin on 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: your whole body. It's client tears. You ain't never done that. 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: You ain't never put on boots with a two piece 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: shots at and turned the rain off on your feet. 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: What you've never done it? You ain't never did it. 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: You don't sit on the mouth rushmore. It's a godfather, 22 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: this ship right here, it's one man. It's one man, 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: and that Maine is here. The God, No, yes, sir, 24 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: not God, the God, the God created in his image. 25 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Casey Haley, my God. 26 00:01:53,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, himself, mister Huliah himself. 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah man, what's going on? 28 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: What made what made you do? Oh yeah, let's start 29 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: with this right there. 30 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Okay, we can do that. That's real easy. 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I was. They used to call me like that, a 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: little king. 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: But the guys did, like I go and I go 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: into booth man just start singing. And I get and 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: I got tired of saying what the words of the 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: song stuff. 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: I just I just put them in. 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, it's a feeling. You gotta have that, oh yeah, 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: feeling you could sing. Mary had a little lamb. 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Mary had a. 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: Little lamb, little lamb, little lamb. 42 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, yeah, man. 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: They do say it's Casey jojo right there. Yeah, that's 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: that's like the Holy Trinity. 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Bro. 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: I just I mean, listen, I gotta say this, and 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: I tell you this all the time, but I can 48 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: never tell you enough. Thank you man, Thank you man. 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: You have to like like I want you to like 50 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: to day is the day. You know, I know you humble, 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: you know I know your godfaring man. You give it 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: all back to the Creator. You understand what I'm saying. 53 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: But when he gives us those gifts, it is up 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: to us to be good stewards over those gifts. It 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: is up for us to develop and nurture and work 56 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: hard to bring their gifts to their fullness. And you 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: did just that, and in doing so, you created us. 58 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: For sure. 59 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Appreciate, sure, sure, appreciate. 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: No R and B money without you. There's no R 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: and B money without your, not even closer. 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: We tried no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: Today today today, can't see you get the pump your ship. 64 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: This is Flowers, this is celebration k C Day right now. 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Okay, we did that ship. 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: We did that, Yes, you did it was it was 67 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: on a mission. 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 69 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: And number two understood the assignment. 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. When we first when we first. 71 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: Got together, we always said, we said that we made 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: a pack. We made a vow that we was going 73 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: to be the baddest, baddest group that ever came out. Wow, 74 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I made a vow like 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the most aggressive lead singer that's out there. 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: My age. 77 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, My era, And hey man, and. 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: I guess, like I said, we did that ship. 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: You do damn right, you did it. Let's go back 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: to the beginning case. Go ahead. 81 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 3: I want to go back to me being a kid 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: in a church somewhere in Wisconsin. I want to say 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: race Singlet'll sing Wisconsin, and we went to see Little 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Cedric and the Haley singer. Yes, man, and I watched 85 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: y'all run down the middle aisle. You didn't walk down 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: the middle aisle. Oh yeah, for those of y'all who 87 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: know anything about church, any church folk, you don't go down. 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: The middle aisle. 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: That is forbidden. That's forbidden. You don't walk down the 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: middle church going on the side. 91 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: Next time I go to church, remember that. 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: So the usher say, you know, shure, you're seeing the 93 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: ball like he does instructions for the middle hole. Not 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: only did they come down the middle aisle, they ran 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: down the middle aisle to assult the injury. Jojo had 96 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: a ball head and ear rings. We said, what in 97 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: the worldly, what in the fleshy business is. 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: Going on there? 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: And y'all proceeded, for lack of a better term, to 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: talk about gospel music kick ass. 101 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah man, we had to do that too, man, we 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: did that. 103 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: So how did that start? Give me Casey and the 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: hay say, go take me back to the beginning. 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: Right, the beginning like this, Well, those you don't know. 106 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: It started out in Alltimore, Maryland, our professional singing Career 107 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: Study in Baltimore and Maryland. My mom had a group, 108 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: my dad had a group, and me and Joji would 109 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: be around house singing all the time. They had a 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: back in those days, they had a Friday night spade parties. 111 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: Mama them had the spade party. I know y'all know 112 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: about that. 113 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: But anyway, when our uncles and nouns they'd be playing 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: spades and all that, me and Jojo wuld be in 115 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: the bed sleep with it. Used they thought we were, 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: but we can hear everything that's going on there. But 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: one or two every Friday night and my uncles and 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: they are juiced up, now you know what I'm saying, 119 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: So they want to hit the little boys sing. 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: So Mama would wake us up, like it'd be like one. 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes two in the morning, wake us up, turn our 122 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: favorite gospel group on, which was the gospel keynotes at 123 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: the time, you know, and me and Joe Joja would 124 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: be Paul Beasley. I would be the lead singer, Willy 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: Neil so, and Willy Neil was the one, like the 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: the aggressive one, the lead singer. So they would ask 127 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: us to make us sing those songs. I remember one 128 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: night I got bull headed. You know what I'm saying, 129 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: I got bullheaded and it wont to sing. Man, So 130 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: believe it or not. My mother, my mother a lover 131 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: for doing this. Some people these days might ridicule her 132 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: for doing it. But my mother she went upstairs, got 133 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: her leather belt, leather belt, and man, that belt kept 134 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: me singing today. She said, boy, if you don't go 135 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: downstairs and sing them songs, but them people want you 136 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: to sing and mine now they was giving me a 137 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: joe fifty cents to sing. She said, if you don't 138 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: get your tail downstairs, she took that belt. Man, she 139 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: used that belt to this day. I never been shame 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: or shy to open my mouth to sing for nobody. 141 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: So fast forward, like I said, my mother had a 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: group from Baltimore Female Group, and my father had the 143 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: male group in Baltimore Quartet. 144 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: And my mama told my daddy, she said, I think 145 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you need to put centric in that group. That boy ready, 146 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: That boy ain't ready, she said, he ready? She said, 147 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: he ready. 148 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: So she asked me, if you want to be in 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: your daddy group. Man, yeah, I want to be in 150 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: the group. 151 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: At eleven years old. 152 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Who wouldn't yeah, eleven years old? Then, so my Daddy 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: let me in the group. I went to the couple 154 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: of rehearsals and we did that first gospel you know 155 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: back in the day call him programs. 156 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, we did a program. 157 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: So when I did that, man and my uncle, which 158 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: was the manager of my dad group, his uncle, so 159 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: he told my daddy, oh, yeah, that's gonna be our 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: little showstopper. Yeah, we're gonna keep him. So by that time, 161 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: like I said, my mama had a group. She had 162 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: to kill a band. So my mama told my daddy, look, 163 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: I want to take him out your group and I'm 164 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: gonna get my band because they was more contemporary, you know, 165 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: all that players young guys. She said, I want to 166 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: take them out your group, and I'm gonna get rid 167 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: of my band and let them play for Cedric mm hm. 168 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: So dadd was like, we see how the I think 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: the group my daddy group kind of figured what was 170 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: going on because for me, Daddy and Jojo got to rehearsal, 171 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: believe it or our tank man, they had our papers 172 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: waiting on us saying we fired. 173 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: Oh y'all was getting kicked out. 174 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got kicked out when they found out that, 175 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, little Cedric and the Haley things was about. 176 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: But they kick you and Jeorje They kicked your daddy 177 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: out here, and yeah, hold on you and your son. 178 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and your sons out the group just because 179 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: of that. So my dad's okay, cool, we got this. 180 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: They handed you papers, They handed his papers that rehearsal 181 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: when we walked in. 182 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: That's crazy, you know. 183 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: I cried like the baby man, look eleven years old 184 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: getting fired. Come on now from something I love to 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: you want to do. But though it was God's playing, 186 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: of course, it wasn't their plans. Because at the next day, 187 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: here we are my mom and dad telling me what 188 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: we got. My mama said, Timmy down, Timmy to them, 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: come to play for you now. So I'm like half 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: because Timmy, though they was young, they was funky, you know, 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: so I'm like cool. That was the birth a Little 192 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: Cedric and the Haley Singers signed to gospel record label, 193 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: which is Air Records. Now, so got that deal. Twelve 194 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: years old? Did our recording man and Little Cedric and 195 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: Haley Singers blew up? 196 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean we blew up in the court tap field man. 197 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: I would like to they would call me the Michael 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Jackson of gospel and during that time. Yeah, and during 199 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: that time, my rival was a little boy from Washington, 200 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: d C. He had his group from DC. So Baltimore 201 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: had they little boy which is a little Cedric and 202 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: that little boy I'm talking about. 203 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean we went next to neck, neck to the neck. Man. 204 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: One night was his night. Next night was not my night. 205 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: That little boy it was Johnny Gill. 206 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know that, yeah, man, Man, Johnny talked 207 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: about the all the time. 208 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: We talked about the all the time. Johnny would come 209 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: to Baltimore. He'll try to make it hard for me 210 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: in my town. 211 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, I gotta go to I gotta 212 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: go to d C. H Ray, come see you. 213 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: So this is like twelve thirteen for so he's been 214 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: browling for a long time. 215 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, man, Johnny, we've been 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: in the game together, in the game a long time, man, 217 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: a long time. 218 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 219 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, Johnny was way back man. 220 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: Forty some years ago. 221 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 4: So was your father in and Haley sing Halle sing. 222 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, he came. 223 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: He got him some songs off til too, off the 224 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: albums too. 225 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, well, and then Jojo. 226 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: Jojo was like this. He's still like this to this day. 227 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: He don't let y'all see it. We had to beg 228 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: Jojo to sing. M We had to beg Jojo to 229 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: then they had to do it. Now you know what 230 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: But one of the coldest vocals whoever. 232 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then Jojo then he got into it, man, 233 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: And he had this couple of songs on the albums 234 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: and all that, but Jojo always knew he would tell 235 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: them and then I'm gonna do that, man. 236 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: That's that's cedgic man. 237 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: Jojo. 238 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: Jojo was more like he was a rough He was 239 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: a rough neck. 240 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: Joja wanted to go outside and play football while I'm 241 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: in rehearsal ten hours a day in the bass hot 242 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: basement right after school. Got to go down to the 243 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: basement and rehearse for the album. So Jojo outside playing 244 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: and if he got a song, he'll come in and 245 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: do his little song, go right back outside and play. 246 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm still in there because I'm so I'm I'm hungry 247 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: at the age of twelve, I'm hungry, man. But it 248 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: all worked out good. So that's how the Haley Singers started. 249 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: Man, was your first song that took out, took off. 250 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: Uh Jesus saved, and then born again with the second cold. 251 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: That's it. 252 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: That was it right there. I was like, we used 253 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: to call it in we call it drive. That was 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: what was your cross? 255 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was that? 256 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: That was our drive? 257 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Right and then and then on man, it just we 258 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: did those. We did three albums under Little Cep and 259 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: the Haley Singers, and then the family moved back to 260 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: North Carolina. And then what. 261 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Made you guys move? 262 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: Well, what made us move is really I think I 263 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: think my mom and parents was ready to move back 264 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: down south because we had lived in Baltimore for what wow, 265 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: we lived in Baltimore for like thirteen years, you know 266 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, but they wanted to move back 267 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: down south, and of course they took the kids with us. 268 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: So we went down there, and still we still had 269 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: the Hailey Singers going. 270 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: We still was traveling. 271 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: The group had busted up, but we still you know, 272 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: hire some new new musicians and backup singers and everything 273 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: for Little Cedric. 274 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: So we're still going. So and then. 275 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: And and and it was God, Man, it was God, 276 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: because I was I was I had left North Carolina 277 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: and went to Baltimore. I was gonna do a reunion 278 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: with Little Cedric and the Haley Singers with the original 279 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: all the original members. 280 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: This is a. 281 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: Seventeen It's like just like seventeen eighteen, one of them. 282 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: So while I'm while I'm in Baltimore, Joselyn didn't go 283 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: with me. So while I'm in Baltimo, more Jojo plays 284 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: a song for me over the phone. By this time, Jojo, 285 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: you know he didn't go back to Baltimore with me. 286 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: So I'm listening on the phone. I'm like, Jojo, who 287 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: is that? It's yo, man, It's just it's this guy. 288 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: Ain't done. Man, we've been doing music together. Man, you 289 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: can't be in this group. 290 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: Nah. 291 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Now this is just me and done. This me and 292 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: done stuff, this being done stuff. So then I go 293 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: back to Now I go. I meant, before I go 294 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: to Baltimore, I'm in I rehearsal hard with Let's at 295 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: the Haiti Singers. 296 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: So some girls they came over to visit us. 297 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: Just before I went to the boy, I skipped all that, 298 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: but some girls brought some guys to our studio. I 299 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: was dating one of the girl, but calling myself dating 300 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: and Jojo was talking to one of them, so they 301 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: brought out They said, well, we want to meet y'all 302 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: some We want y'all to meet some brothers. 303 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: You know. They they got their own church. 304 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: And and and they doing their thing. They tight on 305 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: the music. Man, they good, y'all need to meet on y'all. 306 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Who are they? So when they walked in and they 307 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: brought the guys in, so all that first thing I 308 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: see is my girlfriend and got these guys behind her. 309 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: So immediately I'm not feeling I'm not feeling it. So 310 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: and I see one of them going to the studio 311 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: what the recording part was at the studio we had, 312 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: and I hear a piano plan. Now by this time, 313 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: me and this guy that Joe was in the room with. Man, 314 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: his brother is about to go at it. I mean 315 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: guns down, really guns down. So anyway, we're like, he's like, Yo, 316 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: what's going on? 317 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: Man? 318 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Like, Yo, you tell me what's going on? 319 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: Y'all? 320 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: Walking with my girl? Man, I mean, who are y'all? 321 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: Who are y'all? So then I hear it. 322 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: I hear keep it up, a keyboard playing. 323 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: And I hear my brother singing. I'm like, oh, I 324 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: have my voice. I have my brother voice, but who 325 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: is that planing that keyboard? And his brother said, that's 326 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: what I was trying to tell you. We're the guys 327 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: that they wanted to introduce us to, y'all. 328 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, who are y'all? 329 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: I'm Dalving and that's my brother. Yeah, girl, he said, 330 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm Dalving and that's my brother. Done. I said, y'all 331 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: are the great boys? Like yeah, yo, man, we just 332 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: missed the girl. 333 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: Want to see what's going on? 334 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: Now? 335 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: Work God, work, God said I moving. 336 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: I see you're moving. 337 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: So by that time, you know that we met each 338 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: other and met each other, hung out a little bit, 339 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: and then like I said, now I can go back 340 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: to Baltimore because I thought that it was gonna work out, 341 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: like that's gonna flu So I go to Baltimore. 342 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my group back together. 343 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: Joe caused me, and and he's playing something on the 344 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: on the on the phone. I said, Yo, that's how 345 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: good was that? He said, Yo, that's being done? Man? 346 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: I said, for real, y'all did that? He said yeah? 347 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, man, it's tight. I said, man, that's 348 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: that's I like that, bro. I don't even think about it, 349 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: stay in Baltimore, get your hatey saving together. 350 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I got my whole thing. 351 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: Ain't the church. 352 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I said, nah, man, So immediately, immediately I 353 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: called my mom, I call my daddy. 354 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: So ready to come home. I'm ready to come home. 355 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: I told her. 356 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: Haley singers, Hey, look y'all, I'm going back to Charlotte. 357 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: I can't tell you why. I can't tell you about it, but. 358 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: You're here about it. But you're here about it. And 359 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: by that time I got home, man, and by that time, 360 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 2: Jojo jojo heed it, jojo heed it, and then all 361 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: you started yelling. 362 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: So then we. 363 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: Jojo really didn't want you in the group. 364 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: No, and Davante didn't want Dalvin. I love this, Yeah, 365 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: this is great money. Didn't want Davin, so Jojo made it, 366 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: but Jojo wanted Dolvin. 367 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Vante wanted me. 368 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: So Jojo was like this, now, Jojo Jojo playing that card. 369 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: If you want my brother, Lee saying you got your 370 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: brother and the. 371 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: Group yeah, yeah, yeah, it's and vice versa. So if 372 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: you want Dalvin in you know, yeah I Neededric. 373 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 374 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: So we got together man talked about it. 375 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: That you go. 376 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: We we started doing demos man, we were demo. 377 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: At at the church. 378 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: Man. 379 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: We would do. 380 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: Demos at the church, like time. 381 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: We share those songs like that and like the chords, 382 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: like the chords Davante. A lot of that stuff was 383 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: written in church at Davante's dad church man. So I 384 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: guess Davante's dad got tired of it, you know, he 385 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: got tired all that secular music been played at the church. 386 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: So what we did, we didn't tell me and Jose 387 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: didn't tell our parents. We had a basement, right and 388 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: this thing. You know, my dad and my mother they 389 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: see Vanunte loading there in like fifteen ten or fifteen keyboards, 390 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: hooking everything up in their basement. You give you know 391 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. By that time, they didn't know what 392 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: They knew what we was doing music, but they didn't 393 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: know what he was doing it for. Because my daddy 394 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: that he's I don't know what that boy doing down there. 395 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: But all I hear is a lot of that sound. 396 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: You know, that sound is slapping on the keyboards, but 397 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: he had his headphones on. By that Vante was doing 398 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: Joessy's demo. 399 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: He did that. We did that for like a year, 400 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: got our son, We got like. 401 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: Jodas he yet though or what like when does when 402 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: do you guys. 403 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: When we find out we were Jodasy? When we when 404 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: we well, we knew that we had something, and we 405 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: were standing in O we were sitting in our mother 406 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: our parents yard, man, and and we're like, what name 407 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: can we We need a name? 408 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 3: Man. 409 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Now it's all four but we're good. Now we're tight, man. 410 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: You know, we need a name, man, we need a name. 411 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: So I came up with brothers, and I think Darvin 412 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: came up with some things. And then and then Davante 413 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, well we just put our name together, man, 414 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: Jojo Divante, Darvin. 415 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: Case. 416 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, We're just put Joe d and cee mm hmm 417 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: Jodasy man Jodasy Joseh. I gu said, Josy Jojasy, Josasy Jodasy. 418 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that sounds too biblical something. But 419 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, we had a vote. 420 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: We had a vote with the Jo Deasy it is. 421 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: Then we got on sound man. We got our sound 422 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: won't be no producers, none of that. So as I'm 423 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: telling y'all, the boss man like, just get your boss. 424 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: So when it got Drake Drake came in there. The 425 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 2: song Kirk was playing was come and talk to Me. 426 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: The song he was playing Yeah, then he. 427 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: Played Stay, then he played then he played I'm Still waiting. 428 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: Then all this on demo, what oh man? 429 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: Then they played back in the day every moment that was. 430 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: Don't hear this, just don't. 431 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: Hear this on the demos back so dre Light, dre Light, 432 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: hold up, y'all tell me that's y'all. 433 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's up. Yeah, what you're talking me? 434 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes, us, I don't believe it, no doubt. 435 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, believe this. You know. I stood up. I 436 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: stopped singing the verses. 437 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I got to put with me, you know that, 438 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: I said, I said, okay, that's good. We started singing, 439 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: did a little jalousy, you know, did josy little little 440 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: little thing we'll be doing, singing about judges. 441 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: Yeah that and then you know, I did come and 442 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: talk to me. 443 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: I sung a little song and you know, and by 444 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: that time Heavy came here Rest in peace. Heavy stuck 445 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: his head in the door. He said, Drake, come in. 446 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: From what I hear. Heavy told dre if you don't 447 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: sign him, I get him. By that time, I know dre. 448 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: He came back in the door, said, Yo, so where 449 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: y'all staying. Where y'all staying at? We ain't got nowhere 450 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: to stay, man. You know we got the money, the 451 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: same guy that was sleeping on us his and no man, 452 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: Kirk Willy, he said, Kirk, uh pay for the rest 453 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: of the room, the hotel room for the rest of 454 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: the route group for the rest of the week. Take 455 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: care of this group for the rest of the week. Uh, 456 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: come on, y'all, we're going out to dinner. And Kirk, 457 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: by the way, you assigned to them for the rest 458 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: of this week. 459 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: First I know you don't like him. 460 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, since you can't here, since you're going here for 461 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: the rest of the week, for the rest of your life. 462 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: So by that time, and then you know, we had 463 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 2: that dinner and and uh get back to the hotel. Yo. 464 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: We gave Kurk would leave hell. 465 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: Man. 466 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: We gave him hell that day that whole week. Man, 467 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: it was like we've been in the business for years. 468 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: Yo, we want this. 469 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: You ain't doing your job. You ain't You heard what 470 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Andre said, Yo, yump. 471 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: We turned into jodessy right then. 472 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: And then and then when I get back to the hotel. 473 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: I jumped up up and down on my bed. Man 474 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: jumped up and down on my bed. Everybody, man, we 475 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: was crying and all that, and I called him my pop. 476 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: That's a daddy. We gotta deal. 477 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna give me that truck I want? Yeah, And 478 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: you know they got out. 479 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: They sent by Celeston, which was a lawyer for the label. 480 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: So they sent them down with us back to New York, 481 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean, back to North Carolina and got some maturn 482 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: term agreements made up and all that. And Davante fathers 483 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: and his lawyer looked over, our parents looked. 484 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Over, said yes, legit, it's legit. It's it's a legit. 485 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: Deal that they said, they want to do business with 486 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: your sons. I think it's a good look. And we're 487 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: talking today. And then we took the world by storm. Man. 488 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: What Dre did by getting all in and like on 489 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: some of the cuts co produced with Davante, what he 490 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: did was put that picture in a frame. 491 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: You give you what I'm saying, that's. 492 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: All he did. Put that picture in a French fine 493 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: get that fine tune and. 494 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: Needs because. 495 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: And then he had a night and day, you know 496 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 497 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: Then he already knew how to make records. 498 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Davante, he knew exactly 499 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: what he's doing. 500 00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: He knew it. 501 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: But like I said, you want to you know, you know, 502 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: put that put a coat. 503 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: And put the lack on it. 504 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: You know what. That's all And that's what I'll I'll 505 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: be dead and and all. And DeVante worked there. You know, 506 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: they bumped head but of course if they had that ego. 507 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: But then he got you know, and he just had 508 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: it like I gotta listen. We told her you gotta listen, man, 509 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: you gotta listen to him, man. 510 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: And I had to. 511 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly and so and and then when al came 512 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: in with that mature lyric like mine. Now everybody think 513 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: ill wrote Forever my Lady, what all did? Forever my 514 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: Lady was already written. Fether Lady was already written before. 515 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: Like I said, we had it before we got a deal. 516 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: What our did was he put that that version in. 517 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: You know that that kind of messed by At first, 518 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: It messed my head up when it's so you're having 519 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: my baby, We're like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. 520 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: Whoa wasn't ready to give him a baby. 521 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, man, got my deal. I just got my deal. 522 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: No child support. Why that's the way. 523 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: And that's that's that really y'all. That's what really, really, really, 524 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: I think set us apart. 525 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: From a lot of younger with nobody we're talking about. 526 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: That nobody was saying. Nobody was saying, nobody was saying. 527 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean they might have saying. They might have been saying, 528 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: somebody's having my baby. Yeah, somebody might have been having 529 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: a conversation, but they weren't saying right behind it, and 530 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: it needs so much to me, yeah, ship nineteen when 531 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: somebody having your baby, trying to you're trying to figure 532 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: out sure, yeah, sure, sure, yeah, I saw what's it 533 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: ain't completing? You know, No, y'all used to talk. You 534 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, don't mean that much to me. 535 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: You don't mean that much. 536 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 537 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: Before as the rest of the lyrics, Man dev Penn 538 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: is sick, stay and come and talk to me, and 539 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: that I'm still waiting, and then you and ies and 540 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: my heart belongs to you, the feedings and the freaking 541 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: us that that's all. 542 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: D hold on, let's stop right here, Let's let's stop 543 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: right here. Okay, God to love his historys got. 544 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: Well. 545 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I don't know why they singing 546 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: this hard on this up tempo, but I love it. 547 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: I love it. And then what that Forever my ladies? 548 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, because there's a period where as new artists, 549 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, you're opening, you're doing venues, and maybe it's 550 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: just you for a radio show, it's maybe two one 551 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: hundred people, three people. But there's gotta be a moment 552 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: where when that Forever my Lady hits that you see 553 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: the difference from that two hundred and this small radio 554 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: shows and the openings to the venues getting at there. 555 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: He's going to the thousands. 556 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, man, you know you know where I'm going. 557 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 4: I want to know what he bought, but I got 558 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: come on, man, I want to know. 559 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: Come when you first tore it, what what did I get? 560 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta, I gott a BMW man, But 561 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: it was I got a BMW Jojo gotta b and 562 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: J Dialvin gotta be in w that damn de bunche. 563 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: He brought her something crazy and they gotta lam Yeah, y'all, 564 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: be Ws is cool. 565 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: Man got to get the lamb on him. 566 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: He just stop at one you got like a couple 567 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: of them. Man. 568 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: That was that was That was the first tour. 569 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: The first tour, Man, who's the first tour? 570 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: First Hammer MC Hammer and then and then and then 571 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: we broke off from that and then we did own 572 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: Jodicy tour which was Joasy and Mary. 573 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: And I think who was on that tour with us? 574 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: I think and I wanted to say Biggie, but I 575 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: don't want to, but did Yeah, I think it was Biggie. 576 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, Yeah. 577 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: They were they was Openness, Yeah, Joasy, Yeah man we 578 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: Josy was that Joasy? We were that well. It was crazy. 579 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: So give me, give me the give me the Puff player, 580 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 3: oh when pop okay, give me. 581 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: That goes back to when Puff was doing when Papa 582 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: was intern. So Puff was like it was to the street. 583 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how I got it. Love came 584 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: in and. 585 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: Puff as Dre. 586 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: Yo, you told Dre, said, Yo, you shouldn't because Dre 587 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: was gonna come out the first single. He would come 588 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: come and talk to me ofever my lady. So Puff 589 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: told him, no, Dre, don't do that. I want to 590 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: do that. If I was you, I would put them 591 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: out with God of Love. That song God of Love man. 592 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: So dre like, why would you do that? We didn't 593 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: even want to do that, and why, he said, because 594 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: the video concept could be like they could be dressed 595 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: like you know, you know in the hood, you know, 596 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: with the boots, the little thuggish or whatever. So that 597 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 2: got in love with set the world up, you know, 598 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 2: because they didn't want Dreven said that, Dre really, he really, 599 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: he told me, I don't want y'all. We told dre 600 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: we don't want like no boys to man, not no, 601 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, just some boys. 602 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Man. 603 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: We didn't want it. We didn't want want it like that. 604 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: Even Puff said, yo, man, you don't want them like 605 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: boys men in soups. You don't want them in soups, man, 606 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: he said. Puff told us that, yo, man, when I 607 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: see them, when I see them, man, I want to 608 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: see them like four of my homeboys on the corner 609 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: singing the girls and stuff like that, you know, on 610 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: the stoop singing the girls. 611 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: You know. 612 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: So Puff's I think you should come out with God 613 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: of Love first and be like this you have on it, 614 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: like some hip hop gear on. 615 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: So I thought Buff's gonna get fired for that, man. 616 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 2: But then after we heard what Puff I did was Yeah, Dre, 617 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: I think we should go God to love man, so 618 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: got to love work. And what it really did is 619 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: set a tone so the world could see, Okay, put 620 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: everybody on this. Yeah, this, how they're gonna be looking this, 621 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: how they're gonna dress, they're gonna have on their boots, 622 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: they're gonna have on their vests, chasing the baseball cap. 623 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: So that really set the world up. 624 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: But once again, I think you said it like when 625 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: they when they saw Sing from My Lady, they probably said, oh, 626 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: that's that group that got on the yellow and in 627 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: that radio with the boots and stuff. Okay, we get it, 628 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: that's them, And that really set us apart from Thumb 629 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 2: Boys to Men and whatever groups that was coming out 630 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: the same time. 631 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 6: Which is genius stuff because most time in this business, 632 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 6: and we all know this, we've been in this game 633 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: a long time, when something works, everybody does the exact same. 634 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 6: There you're going because it's the cheat code. 635 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: It can get you, it can get you in, it 636 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: can get you in. 637 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: It might not keep you in. 638 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: But for you guys to be the polar opposite made 639 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: so much sense. 640 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and for for Puff to be an intern at the. 641 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 6: Time recognize that, Yeah, he was already showing that he 642 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 6: was a taste maker. And the other other genius in 643 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 6: it too, in it being polar opposite is that now 644 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 6: you're immediately in a conversation with some guys that are 645 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 6: already selling millions of records. So it's like now it's like, oh, 646 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 6: what's what's getting ready to have? 647 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 648 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's two. It ain't just one. 649 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: There. We got some guys over here that they come 650 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: in the bad became the bad Boys army. So we 651 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: got the good guys in the bad who you want 652 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: to go see? Right? 653 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: Who you want to go see? That's great? 654 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 6: And I'm a church kid, so like, so did you 655 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 6: know of Obviously you knew of Little but I. 656 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: Didn't know that Little Cedric and the Haley singers with 657 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: your You didn't know that. I had no idea. I 658 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: had no idea until I got out of high school 659 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: and did some research and I was like, well, because 660 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: I got I got your sets, you know what I'm saying. 661 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: So once I made that connection, I said, that's why 662 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: it makes so much sense to me. So for me, 663 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: I started being Jodasy in church. Okay, I started sounding 664 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: like y'all in church. I would go to visiting churches 665 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: and play and you know, add my divante cores and 666 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 3: all that they be like this, you're like one man jodousy, 667 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: God bless you. 668 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Because because. 669 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 3: As much as I loved voice to men who were 670 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, I mean ultimately just talented, just off freaking. 671 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: Charge, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was drawn so 672 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: much to that feeling that was so familiar to me. 673 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 3: The cord struct the vocals, arrangement, the arrangement and how 674 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: that like I come from, I come from courtet that 675 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: you go Baptist kojic And I was like, that's in 676 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 3: there and we definitely coach it. That's in there, definitely 677 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 3: coach it. So it it made my soul happy. Yeah, 678 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 3: I want to shout you. 679 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to shout. Music came off, y'all. Don't hear this, y'all. 680 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Don't want to lift no offering. 681 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: I got if you change a few some words, if 682 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: you change words our. 683 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Songs talk to the law. You can have an altar call, yeah, 684 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: can instrumental you can. Let me ask you a question, 685 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 3: did the commission have any. 686 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: Most definitely commission the whiners And then you know, and 687 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: I had my quartet groups, you know, the gospel keynotes, 688 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: the volunteers, you name, the quartest man. I was a 689 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: hardcore quartet. But then, like in the late eighties, I 690 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: started listening to like, like I said, Commission in the Whinings, 691 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: you know those cats Clark Sisters, you know, And I'm. 692 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Like, okay, and that's what we did. But think about it. 693 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: When we got an R and B, when we got 694 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: in RB Man, we were how jose'sie really really really 695 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: got our sound. Jojo was the deal. 696 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: In Babyface fanatic. 697 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: Mm okay, listen the late the late nineties, I mean 698 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: Davante was fanatics of God. 699 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So what we do is if Joe sleeping 700 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: in one room. This is at my mom house. 701 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: Now Joe to sleep in one room, He'll go to 702 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: sleep with all Babyface in the in the deal stopped 703 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: playing in his cassette player, I mean Avante in another room. 704 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: We're going to sleep listening to Teddy, Teddy and Er. 705 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: So I'm in the Vanteer like, okay, I'm just some Teddy. 706 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 2: I'm doing Teddy Ship. You do some a ship. 707 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: M hmm. Okay, so this is all late ladies. 708 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, what we did combined the wines commission guy in 709 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 7: the deal and the deal. 710 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it all makes sense. 711 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: And then we made and plus we had of course 712 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: we had Jodasy. 713 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: It was so aggressive. 714 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you just you can hear it. 715 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Man. 716 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: It was like I tell people all the time. Everybody's like, yeah, 717 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: it's you hear him jalousy armonies. 718 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I hear you. 719 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: But that's your way of saying, you don't here. 720 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: You can't. 721 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: You can't because it's just nice to me. I'll be like, man, 722 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 3: this ain't no joous. Here's here's two things right, because 723 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: it's it's too two things. First of all, you can 724 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: try the arrangement, right, but the but the vocal, the 725 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 3: casey and and JoJo's vocal are so distinctive that she'll 726 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: never you'll never have that combination of tone make. 727 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: It what it is. 728 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 3: And two, the misconception of anybody, from groups to anybody 729 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: trying to be Joalasy is that they confuse the fashion 730 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: with the music. With the music. Y'all was making love. Man, 731 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 3: y'all screaming. Start treat them like they're supposed to be 732 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 3: treating y'all are screaming that though. 733 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 6: Screaming that screaming forever my lady, screaming stay. Those are 734 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 6: all love to. 735 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: Know what that stay church. 736 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: That's coach. 737 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: That sounds like sometimes yeah yeah. And then the way 738 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: we stack our stuff, how many steak give me the stacks? 739 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: Come on? 740 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: Give me because y'all on the on the board, y'all 741 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: on tape, y'all on real too, y'all y'all using the 742 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: whole y'all using to. 743 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: Man flying over No nah nah. 744 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 3: I want to say, on one note, give me how 745 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 3: many how many times you stacked one note? 746 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 4: One note? 747 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: One note? 748 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: The melody Davante will have a stack on one note. 749 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: The least man this might sound crazy, Man Davante would 750 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: have us clus to ten. 751 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 4: Ten stacks on one note. 752 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 3: I believe every word you sing, cah, I believe every 753 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: word you were saying, yeah, yeah, say about. 754 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 6: During y'all stacks? Are y'all trying to match the note? 755 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 6: Are y'all just singing it with a different feel every time? 756 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 6: Because that's the other thing. People go in and you stacking, 757 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 6: stack and stacking, and you're trying to make all the 758 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 6: notes sound identical. 759 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: But sometimes we'll be like we'll do like uh, we 760 00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: do like five like ton we do like five uh 761 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 2: the sixth times other to know, you know, just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 762 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: So its just feeling those those sonic holes and we 763 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: pan them PanAm all. 764 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 3: You know. Ain't stacking enough, that's what he's just saying. 765 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 3: You're not stacking enough enough. Stacks you gotta stack. Ain't 766 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 3: no ass on your background, that's what he's saying. 767 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: Now. 768 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: As far as as far as. 769 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: Harmonies arrangements, see DeVante plays chords all five fingers. 770 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we gotta me Jojo gotta sing every note. 771 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: Every that he's playing ship and then Jojo going there. 772 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 2: He's that's one thing about Jojo. He's so creative. Jojo 773 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 2: just dropped something in there. Even when we record, he'll 774 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: just drop something something fall off. Yeah yeah, yeah, keep 775 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: that and yeah they keep that the next thing. You know, 776 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: that's a harmony. Yeah, that's a harmony. So you know, man, 777 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: sometimes we have like what some people lose, use five 778 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 2: part harmonies. Man, we'll we'll make it away. We can 779 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: use six or seven absolutely, because like mine, now we 780 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: got the regulars, We got the regular notes. Now mine 781 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: Davante gonna play five chords. You know, he's gonna play 782 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: five chords on the harmonies and then, like I said, 783 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: the extra stuff that Jojo would do, and you know 784 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: that that it's just you gotta be in one of 785 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: our sessions. Man, you'll be like, whoa. 786 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: You know the first time I gotta, I gotta just 787 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: maybe even a slight glimpse of it was working Virginia one. Okay, okay, 788 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: he would know he came from that school. And and 789 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: I watched him. 790 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 4: Stack stack stacks. 791 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 3: He got different d and he was like he was like. 792 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, you're doing the same 793 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: note again. He said, Nah, I'm doing it a little 794 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: different this time. Watch when I watch what I do 795 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 3: at the end, I'm like, oh, okay, okay, he said, 796 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: now give me, give me, give me three more of 797 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: a whispered ease. 798 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: Should I just tell you that? 799 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? What are you doing? Yeah? 800 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 3: The whole thing before you came from the school. Absolutely 801 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: came from the school. So that was my first glimpse. 802 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah that much stacking. 803 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Timberland too, Yeah it came from the school. 804 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. 805 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: Like I said, we did that ship. 806 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 3: You can say that as many times as you want to. 807 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 3: I want to get to I want to get the 808 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 3: Diary of a Mad Band. Come. I want to know 809 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 3: first why Diary of a Mad Band? Why that title. 810 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 2: Diary of a Mad Band? I didn't like it at first, 811 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: and then I started realizing. 812 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: We came with it. 813 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 2: We met Davante, but that second and we were we 814 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: was mad. 815 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 4: What were you all mad about? 816 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: Just mad? Just mad? 817 00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 4: Was it? 818 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: Was it? Okay? 819 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 4: So wasn't Was it connected to the businesses? 820 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: Wasn't. 821 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't connected to the business. It was just 822 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 2: we were just mad. We wanted to be like, yo, okay, 823 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 2: we're getting out of that. Okay, we people think we're soft. 824 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: We're mad. That's trying to get mad. That's right. 825 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: To the album cover like that with shirts off with 826 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 2: and dobbin and we had the boost and stuff off 827 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: and all that, all that boost on. We were just well, 828 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna sit ourselves. 829 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm mad band. 830 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: Mad. Don't mean you know, we have attitude. I mean, 831 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 2: we got attitude, but we won't let y'all know we're 832 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 2: more than just. 833 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: An R and B band. 834 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 2: You know we you know, we our conrollers too, were mad. 835 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 836 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: We got attitude yea, and all that we didn't care 837 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: We was mad. 838 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: We didn't give a damn. 839 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: We wanted to change the face of R and B. 840 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all did that. Y'all did that. 841 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 2: So and all these songs we put on that album 842 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: man Ship. 843 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: We didn't care a little. 844 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: Mad brother said, you just commentast sound good? 845 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: You know in your travels. 846 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: And this R and B thing, this gospel thing, being 847 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 3: a titan yourself, they are definitely. 848 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 4: People mm hm and songs. 849 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 1: That inspired this great man. 850 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: Okase. 851 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: We want to know your. 852 00:46:52,160 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 3: Top five, your top five, top five. 853 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: Hm, your top five R and B singer? 854 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 4: What else? 855 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: Love and the song? 856 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 3: Yeah? 857 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 858 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: Can I see your top? Can I see? 859 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 8: Y'all is no subject yom we want knowld. 860 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 2: We want to know your top f. 861 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 8: Yees, Yeah, your top we did you didn't laughing fuck 862 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 8: top f daddy merse. 863 00:47:53,960 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 3: Case Now yeah, your top five now or R and 864 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: B singers of all time, all time, R and B, 865 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: R and B gospel, your world, your top five singers, 866 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: no particularly, they can be whatever you want, whatever you 867 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 3: want it to be. Marvin Wyers talk to talk mm hmm, 868 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 3: Steve Won, Marvin Gay. 869 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 1: My personals you want me? I came front Uncle Charlie 870 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: in tank came front. 871 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like you just hit a 872 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 4: game with the three brothers. I'm not crying. 873 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm not Jacob. Hold up, I'm not saying that because. 874 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: You're sitting right here. 875 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:48,919 Speaker 1: Man. 876 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: I don't saying that because every time but now you sing, man, 877 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: it's like, Man, my mama like you, and. 878 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: She told me tell you how to better better. 879 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 2: Tell a little squinchy eye boy. 880 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: That what you said. 881 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 2: That was this morning when you told me that. Anyway 882 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 2: you your style man, is like I know they're trying 883 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 2: to do this. I've heard things about artists coming out 884 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 2: they gonna be the new, they gonna be the new 885 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: that from my era, my era. 886 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: And the way your performance is you that new Marvin. 887 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: Person. That's just me. Wow, don't have to be with you, 888 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 2: don't have to be with the way you sing, ory' 889 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: I know y'all got different styles, but your your your 890 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 2: or you know. It's like when I saw you on 891 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: the on the on a on a New Addition tour, 892 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: I said, Joe, that's that's a new Marvin ship right there. 893 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: And y'all did y'all think too? 894 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 2: I saw that, Man, I love, but that's how I 895 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 2: feel about you, man, you. 896 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on my top five the show. 897 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna better tell this niggas your arrangement, you 898 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: know all that, man, all that. People just don't know 899 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: and see they're not from well we're from They wouldn't 900 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: get it. I get it. 901 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: You know, you don't suck up right. I need wipers, 902 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 3: I need bathers. Somebody feeding me grapes. Yeah you heard 903 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 3: what did you hear? 904 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 6: What you gotta or you got you James? 905 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: Like yo, that's some marble like he right there. 906 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 3: I love you for that, brother, because you you are. 907 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 3: You are at my DNA man, and I appreciate that. 908 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 3: In case of your top five R and B. 909 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 2: Songs, anything from the songs and the was a Kid 910 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 2: of Life, anything from. 911 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: That, anything but that anyone that's one. 912 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: Wildflower? You're going there for New Bird? Oh yeah, are 913 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 2: you going there? Yeah? Yeah, New Bird? Of course definitely, 914 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 2: Barbie wo Mack. If you think you lonely, now, why 915 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 2: not Johnny had to wait song for you? 916 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's what fo Yeah, that's what we need. 917 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 3: One more more. 918 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 6: I mean as song as a Kid of Life. We 919 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 6: got thirty seven on the hours, so really we have forty. 920 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 2: But I gotta say this, y'all. Sorry forever, my lady. 921 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? 922 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 4: It has to be, It has to be. It has 923 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 4: to be, my lady. 924 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 925 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: That song right there, it's like, every time I sing 926 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 2: that song, I just I forgets it's me. 927 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 6: M hmmm, I forget it's me. So how good it is? 928 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 6: What song do you get tired of singing? If there's 929 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 6: any what song is? 930 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,760 Speaker 4: He's like, ah, here we go with this one again. 931 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,959 Speaker 2: I put my all in to everything that I sing, 932 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: and I enjoy them so much till I really really 933 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 2: don't get tired of singing none of them, because every 934 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: time I sing them, I get a different feeling. 935 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't. 936 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't approach them the same way. 937 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 3: Build your voltron. It's called a voltron, it's called your 938 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,919 Speaker 3: super R and B artists. We're gonna get You gotta 939 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 3: get the vocal from somebody. You gotta get the performance 940 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 3: style from somebody. You gotta get the styling from somebody, 941 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 3: and you gotta get the passion the heart of the 942 00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,280 Speaker 3: artist from somebody to make your ultimate R and B singer. 943 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: Who are you getting that vocal from? Marvin Wys. 944 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 3: Who are getting the performance style from the style on 945 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 3: stage performance. I get my style in Casey. Come on, 946 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 3: come on, I try. I try to be nice today today. Okay, 947 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 3: can we got Casey performance style? We've got Marvil waits 948 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 3: on the vocals, kipting aggressive who getting the styling from 949 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 3: the drip of the artists? What they what they what 950 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 3: they're putting. 951 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: On daland come with our clothes. 952 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 953 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 2: We're going who you're thinking? 954 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: I feel like who were dressing? I feel like. 955 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 5: Jones ship ship from your damnself. There you go ship. 956 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 5: But right now, you know. 957 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: I have help. 958 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: You know, God bless me with my beautiful wife. So 959 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 2: she got good, she got a good taste. 960 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 3: Come on, help you make sure, help me keep you 961 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 3: come on rib. 962 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: She makes sure, yes, my rib, come on rib. So 963 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: she helped me. 964 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 2: Right now now she said, baby, you ain't wearing that. No, no, 965 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 2: you ain't doing that. I mean she had me have 966 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 2: a fitting session every night before I walk out the door. 967 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 3: I love it who you get in the heart of 968 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 3: the artists, from the passion of the artists. 969 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: The passion of it, like like just I love it. 970 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: They love what they're doing and like putting. 971 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 4: All James making the crowd, Sweat. 972 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: Prince Michael, okay, all of them, Stevee. 973 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 3: That list is along. Can you pick one or you 974 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 3: need all four? Let me pick one. I sweat man. 975 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: I was just talking about this too today on the 976 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: way over here. 977 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: James Brown. 978 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, no argument, no argument, you know what I mean? No, No, 979 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 4: I'm not arguing that at all. 980 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 3: I heard stories of where James Brody used to laugh 981 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 3: laugh at people's performances, like that's all y'all. 982 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: Got, that's all y'all. 983 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all y'all gonna do, and get out there 984 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 3: and proceed to sweat. 985 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, four hour and a half sweat. 986 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 3: We got one more segment for you, brother, case mm hmmm, 987 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 3: one more segment. The rules of this segment. I ain't 988 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 3: saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't 989 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 3: saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 990 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: Where you was what you need? 991 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: Don't say she, I ain't saying no names. 992 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 4: He'll be here all week. 993 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm all weak. 994 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 6: There's that, So right now, talk Tom. We got a 995 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 6: special segment of the show. It's called I Ain't saying 996 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 6: no names? Will you tell us a story? 997 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: Funny? 998 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 4: Are fucked up? Are funny and fucked up. 999 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 1000 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 4: The only rule to the game is you can't say 1001 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 4: no names. 1002 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: Okay, you reckon, let's go. 1003 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 4: This is Ksey. 1004 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 1: Mister ooh yeah, who yeah. 1005 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 4: However the hell you want to sing it himself. I 1006 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 4: ain't saying no names. 1007 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 2: That's so many man, Damn y'all gotta go into archive. 1008 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,280 Speaker 2: All right, we're in London. 1009 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 4: M hmm. 1010 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: I like this all ready starting good. 1011 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 2: And in the VIP section. Matter in our business? Anybody 1012 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 2: just chilling? James Floyd fans good, it feating, it's good 1013 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, who that bitch keep looking 1014 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 2: over at you? Oh she's looking again. 1015 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1016 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 2: We got to get down the club. I ain't saying 1017 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: no that I thought I was. I was some by standing. 1018 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 2: She's looking at me. 1019 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 4: Somebody got knocked out for looking at Casey. 1020 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing. I don't know who that is. 1021 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: I use that fact. 1022 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 2: We're in London. 1023 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,439 Speaker 1: We're in London. 1024 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 3: Non the whole time. I know nobody. I use that to. 1025 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 5: Take I didn't we all wait Atlanta, Atlanta? 1026 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 4: Who that is? 1027 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't get your hand. 1028 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 9: No, you don't do it no more. They can sue you. 1029 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 9: Oh man, listen, man, you know what I'm saying. Not 1030 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 9: I got to fight to prove my love. 1031 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: Lord, brother, Casey, my brother. 1032 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 3: I just want to tell you from from my heart, 1033 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 3: from his heart, from every R and B singer, gospel singer, 1034 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 3: that his singer, songwriter, producer, the former that has come 1035 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 3: up under the sound of your voice. We we have 1036 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 3: been truly, we have truly been blessed by your existence. 1037 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, by your. 1038 00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 3: Continued pursuit of perfection, by your life's learning. 1039 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1040 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 3: You're ups and you're down, and you powering through to 1041 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 3: still be here with us, right here forty years to 1042 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 3: this day. 1043 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: That that's including with it all matters. 1044 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 3: You've you've, you've you've created a legacy for yourself that 1045 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 3: includes all of us. So as you are proud of, 1046 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, the accomplishments that you're directly a part of. 1047 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, as you stand on those 1048 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 3: stages and as you stand behind those microphones, also accept 1049 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 3: the credit. You know, when me and this guy stand 1050 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 3: on those stages and stand behind those microphones and get 1051 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 3: on those pianos and and entertain those crowds. 1052 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 1: That's that's yo. 1053 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 3: That we have a song called what that's that's really 1054 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 3: on my album. That's that's mindset. Yeah, so take that 1055 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: credit as well. That is also yours and we will 1056 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 3: your your your name is, your name is in the annals. 1057 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 3: Thank you history, my brother appreciate a foundational building block. 1058 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate everything we do and everything that R and 1059 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 3: B will ever be. I appreciate it, man, Thank you man. 1060 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 3: I just want to thank you, guys, man for really. 1061 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: By you saying that lets me know there's more than 1062 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 2: four members of Jodasy. 1063 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. 1064 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, those other members side the four are the people 1065 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:47,439 Speaker 2: that love us, people that support us, people that pay 1066 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 2: for our tickets to go and see us live in concert. 1067 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: That's Joe. 1068 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: Those the real Jodases. 1069 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You guys, y'all are real 1070 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Josies because we once for y'all, y'all our heartbeat and 1071 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 2: can't live without a heartbeat, and that goes out to y'all. 1072 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 4: Wow, I feel like Martin at the Varneil Hill show 1073 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 4: right now. 1074 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 2: You would, kids, Martin is funny and back to you 1075 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 2: since we got all that. Thank you, Yes, I love 1076 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 2: you for everything, man, Jay Valentine, love you but you. 1077 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Pupone to pick with you. 1078 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: Come on, I called you. 1079 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: That's a tank. 1080 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 4: You know. 1081 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 2: No, that's mom doing this, doing this album. 1082 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 3: Man. 1083 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1084 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 2: I would love for you to be on my be 1085 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: on this album from me, Tank, I need you right out? 1086 01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 2: What what? 1087 01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 4: What? 1088 01:01:59,120 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 2: What? 1089 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: What you need? Man? Thank? 1090 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: I mean I need a tear jerker that I needed that. 1091 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 4: I need that. 1092 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 2: On this album. Tank. 1093 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: I got you, mister Durrell, I said, where's his song? 1094 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: So I said that I have. 1095 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 3: Sco over inside talking ship where a song at? 1096 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: I have templates? What's your name on it? Are you sure? Absolutely, 1097 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Mama that I had. 1098 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 3: I had just started just putting ideas together and and 1099 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 3: I cannot think of why or what happened within that 1100 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 3: time to get me out of focus. So first apologies, 1101 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 3: no no, no, no, no, no no, I have to have 1102 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 3: to have to issue that because I said, I got you. 1103 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: That's my word. 1104 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 3: So in in in honor of this chastisement of you 1105 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 3: pulling out the belt and spanking me on my own pocket, 1106 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 3: you tell me when it it's done, You tell me 1107 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 3: how soon you need it, and we're gonna get it 1108 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 3: turned around. 1109 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Get back into Carolina's next week, 1110 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a call. I get back on Monday. 1111 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's break out something next week. 1112 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Done you heard. 1113 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 4: People heard it. 1114 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 3: Now If I can't find Casey next week because he 1115 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 3: disappeared last. 1116 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 4: That was. That was Mennie can fight. 1117 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 3: Anybody can find anybody, collagistics, collagistics. 1118 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: That's done. That's done. 1119 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Cool. I understand, though, Man, you gotta think about it. 1120 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Hey man, this this this, this game is very busy 1121 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 2: in this game. So I get it. 1122 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: No, but you gotta you know, you gotta make you 1123 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: gotta certain things you have to make a priority. 1124 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 2: But I really, really, really really really really I think. 1125 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: That touch of tank, but I think I think I 1126 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: will have a winner done. Go make a winner. It's 1127 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,479 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 1128 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 4: It's gop. 1129 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay, there it is my word. 1130 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 3: There it is, ladies and gentlemen, Valentine And this is 1131 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 3: the Army Money Podcast, the authority on all things R 1132 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 3: and B, everything everything R and B. 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