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Speaker 1: of his life hasn't played in that many big games.

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Speaker 1: As a rookie played in zero big games. This year

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Speaker 1: he's played in a lot, but this is first year

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Speaker 1: playing in big games. He's on the road in crazy temperatures,

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Speaker 1: in crazy conditions, and you have a chance to go

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Speaker 1: at multiple scores. On top of that, your backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: This isn't like a Daniel Jones or Mac Jones or

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Speaker 1: some of these guys that have been starters that have played.

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Speaker 1: This guy has no reps for years. He's never been

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Speaker 1: a full time starter. You get to go pedal to

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Speaker 1: the metal This is not Drew Brees or even Bo Nicks,

438
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Speaker 1: where I would kind of understand it, I would disagree

439
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Speaker 1: with it, but I was like, Okay, I get the logic,

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterback, and then you put the ball in

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Speaker 1: his hands and then listen, I understand Sean Payton's hurting.

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Speaker 1: After the game, he's with Evan Washburn talking about the game,

443
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: he kind of like, just at least have the understanding

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Speaker 1: that you screwed that play up and say, this one's

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Speaker 1: on me. I should have gone back because when the

446
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: weather turned, and even if you know, you look at

447
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: the weather pregame, it didn't look like it was gonna

448
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Speaker 1: be a crazy blizzard, So what's the second half? It

449
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: probably got way worse than any of them knew what

450
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Speaker 1: it was gonna get. But once it got like that,

451
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: that became the decision of the game. And a lot

452
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Speaker 1: of times decisions are determined in the second half. And

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Speaker 1: we don't spend much time talking about the first or

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Speaker 1: early second quarter, but in a game like that where

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Speaker 1: the second quarter was completely moot, and it was just punt, punt, punt,

456
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: missfield goal, punt, punt, punt, missfield goal punt, that's all

457
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: it was you'd watch the game, you had no clue

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Speaker 1: where the ball was. It was like, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what yard line was. Jim Nantz will get on

460
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: the mic and like, honestly, guys, I could try to

461
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: tell you, but I don't even know. No one knew

462
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Speaker 1: because Sean Payton, who taught Dan Campbell, is always it's

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Speaker 1: it's egregious. These games, especially in a freezing cold temperature,

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Speaker 1: was never gonna be with a backup quarterback. You ain't

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Speaker 1: scoring twenty eight points. Ten points is a really really

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Speaker 1: big deal, and he went for it and it changed

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Speaker 1: the game. And then a couple of series later, instead

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00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: of makes a backup quarterback type play, it should have

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Speaker 1: been a touchdown on the fumble, but they blew the

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Speaker 1: whistle and I think the next player two plays later

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Speaker 1: they score a touchdown. So it's like ball don't lie.

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Speaker 1: They deserved it, and all of a sudden, instead of

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Speaker 1: being ten nothing at seven to seven, and then once

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Speaker 1: second half starts and the weather gets weird, it's like

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Speaker 1: this game as a joke and you never felt like

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Speaker 1: anyone was gonna score. So I just think that Mike

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Speaker 1: vrabel I just there has to be some sort of

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Speaker 1: thought process when you're in these situations to go, why

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Speaker 1: are we going for it right here? Because I want

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Speaker 1: to keep the momentum of this drive. The point of

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Speaker 1: the whole sport is to have more points than your

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Speaker 1: opponent when the clock strikes double zero. And I do

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Speaker 1: think when you look at defensive coaches, Mike McDonald went

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Speaker 1: for it less on fourth down than any coach in

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Speaker 1: the LA. And Mike Rabel, who, like I viewed Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel as like a total alpha got balls as a

487
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Speaker 1: former player who's played in some of these crazy games,

488
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: like he was being pretty conservative. What did he do

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Speaker 1: in the second half? Ran the ball for like over

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Speaker 1: one hundred yards. I forget exactly how many carries, but

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Speaker 1: it was just carry after carry after carrying. Drake made

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Speaker 1: a bunch of runs like we're not gonna do anything

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Speaker 1: done here. And John Payton wants your backup quarterback, which

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00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: is no one's fault free deal. You just had a huge,

495
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: huge disadvantage and that play of going for it ends

496
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: up costing him the game. There's no way around it.

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00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: And typically, and I do this for a living now

498
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: for a long time reacting the games, you don't spend

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00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: that much time in game reactions. I definitely don't, obviously

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Speaker 1: if you're a coach or whatever the next day with

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00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: your team. But the way we discuss, the way fans discussed,

502
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: the way podcasts discussed, it's a lot of we talk

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00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: about the second half, yet the first half in that play,

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00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: I thought, defying the game two plays by Sidham. I

505
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: don't put that on Sidum. There was nowhere for him

506
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Speaker 1: to go with the ball, but that fourth down call

507
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: and then the fumble he had was were the two

508
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Speaker 1: defining moments of the game. And the Denver Broncos, who

509
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Speaker 1: were the one seed, which is not gonna be easy

510
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: to be the one seed every freaking year. It's a huge,

511
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: huge advantage to get games at home loose when they

512
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: would have had a chance in a situation with the

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback to go to the Super Bowl. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they would have won, and I think we

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Speaker 1: all win as fans that the Patriots won that game

516
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: and not the Denver Broncos because they might have lost

517
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: by twenty points with Jared Sidham against Seattle. But still,

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Speaker 1: if I'm a Bronco fan, that's not the point, Like,

519
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: how does that happen? It is the Ben Johnson Dan

520
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: Campbell thing, like, can we just start using our brains?

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Speaker 1: Can you just use your brain? My dad, just to

522
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: say that to me, because I used to do some

523
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: dumb shit I was. I made bad decisions for like

524
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Speaker 1: first thirty years of my life. Not crazy bad decisions,

525
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: but one that would pish your parents off, especially when

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Speaker 1: I was growing up. In my teams, use your head,

527
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: like you know the difference between right and wrong. These

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00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: coaches know the difference. I'm not even arguing with the

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00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: mathematicians in most of these spots. But you can't convince

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Speaker 1: me in a zero zero game or a game where

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00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: you're up seven to nothing that the field goal is

532
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: not the right play in that moment, because it is,

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Speaker 1: especially if you factor in the variable of the weather,

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: even if the crazy blizzard had never come. Just with

535
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: that weather alone and your defense is dominating, they're gonna

536
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: be at such a big disadvantage. So it's like, I

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00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: think that loss falls much more on Sean Payton, just

538
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: like the Sean McVay thing. I understand his offense was great,

539
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: but holy Moley, his special teams, Like, you're the head coach,

540
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: you're the boss, and I just think sometimes these decisions

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00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: are just head scratching, they really are. And now the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I'm not bothered because I didn't hate the Patriots. I

543
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: really liked Brady as a player. I love Belichick, I

544
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: loved Edelman, I loved you know, mccordy in high Tower.

545
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I loved everything they stood for, how smart they were,

546
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: how buttoned up they were, how clutch they were. I

547
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: had a lot of admiration for kind of their just operation.

548
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Speaker 1: So I'm not as big of a Patriot hater though.

549
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them that exist. And you

550
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: look up if you're a Bills fan, you are going

551
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: to roots so hard for Seattle that the New England Patriots,

552
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: and listen, they have the easiest schedule during the season.

553
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: Then they played Jim Harbon and Justin Herbert, the best

554
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Speaker 1: defense in the league and had to go on the

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Speaker 1: road of a against in a blizzard against the number

556
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Speaker 1: one seed. I get that their backup quarterback, but still

557
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: you gotta give you gotta take your hat too. And

558
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: they also beat Josh Allen during the regular season. It's

559
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: like the Patriots did what they had to do and

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Speaker 1: now they're in. Now they're in the super Bowl with

561
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Speaker 1: even though they're a clear underdog sixty minutes one game,

562
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Speaker 1: Drake may plays well, the weather probably be nice, and

563
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Levi's in a couple of weeks. You fucking win the

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00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: game if you run the ball well and kind of

565
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: just slow down the game and have a good defensive

566
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: game plan against Sam Donald, it's a winnable game. I

567
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: can't imagine if I was a Bills fan, just the

568
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: thought of the Patriots and Robert Kraft up there with

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Speaker 1: his little letterman jacket and his twenty eight year old

570
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: girlfriend sitting standing next to Mike Vrabel at his waistline,

571
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: smiling holding that Lombardi. I would puke, I really would,

572
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's on the table. This is a team

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00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: that I just can't get over. Back, I thought they

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00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: were gonna be good. I picked him to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But that the New England Patriots are in the super Bowl,

576
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: that's that's insane. Their offensive line stinks. Will Campbell can't

577
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: block anybody. This is gonna be a tough matchup for him.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that later, but congrats to Mike Vrabel.

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00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Took a team he'd be the first player and coach

580
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: to win Super Bowls. With the same team be a

581
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: remarkable accomplishment. Three super Bowls as a player, win one

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Speaker 1: as a coach man. So we will dive into a

583
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: lot of the Super Bowl that game. Anyone that watched

584
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: the on Netflix, that dude Alex climb that building in

585
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: Tokyo was It's one of the craziest things I've ever watched.

586
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it live. I saw a bunch of people,

587
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: so then I went back. I kind of fast forward through.

588
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna watch an hour and a half climb

589
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: the building, but I would just go to different spots.

590
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the most incredible accomplishments I've

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: ever seen. And the difficulty of it, that's what. Trying

592
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: to get a yard or a first down in that

593
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: weather was like the equivalent of that guy scaling some

594
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Speaker 1: of these areas of that building. I think the building

595
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: was like seventeen hundred feet that some of the visuals

596
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: of the camera were just insane. But every time he

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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: would just grip, You're like, this is crazy. What if

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Speaker 1: this guy felt he doesn't have a parachute, he doesn't

599
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: have a rope, he would just fall to his death

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00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: and we would all witness it. It would be a

601
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: viral moment for the rest of my life. And you're

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00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: just watching this games like I've watched a decent amount

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00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: of Snow games. I don't feel I've ever seen anything

604
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: quite with the win the snow, the difficulty of offensive

605
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: football quite like I'm watching right now. And to win

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00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: that game, it feels like you win multiple games, like

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00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and Josh McDaniel's got to be in Drake

608
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: may we just won that game. Yeah, we want it.

609
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: It feels like you just want a group of playoff games.

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Speaker 1: So congrats to the Patriots, Congrats to Seattle. Kind of

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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: bittersweet that the playoffs are over and now we're un

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Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl again. We got to really enjoy

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks of Super Bowl content because

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00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: then we don't have a game for a long long time.

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00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: And unless you want to see Scotti Scheffler win every week,

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Speaker 1: which that might happen, there's not much going on. You know,

617
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: pitchers and catchers report here a couple of weeks that

618
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: gets your you know, gears flowing doesn't do much for me,

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Speaker 1: but it's enjoyed football while we have it. Let's dive

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Speaker 1: into Mike McCarthy. Okay, I'm recording this part before the games,

621
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Speaker 1: so if anything changes after the fact, you can't hold

622
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Speaker 1: me to it. But I definitely wanted to hit on

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Speaker 1: some things that happened over the last course of the

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Speaker 1: I don't know three or four days. I haven't recorded

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00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: since Thursday afternoon, so Friday Saturday, we had a lot

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Speaker 1: going on, and I want to start with the news

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Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy being the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

628
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Speaker 1: And I saw a lot of reaction on the social

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00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: channels of shock and AH, can't believe this. Didn't see

630
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: this coming? You didn't, did you hear? The owner when

631
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: the day after or two days after Mike Tomlin stepped down.

632
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: We will not rebuild. We do not plan on throwing

633
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: a year away. So the situation historically, especially I can't

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00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: speak to definitely Chuck Nole, but even cow Or I

635
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: was I think I was eight or nine years old

636
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: when he was hired. But when Mike Tomlin was hired,

637
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 1: the previous three years fifteen to one Conference championship game,

638
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: eleven to five Super Bowl champions The previous year was

639
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: eight and eight, but the team was equipped with a

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Speaker 1: lot of young players and obviously a quarterback, and they

641
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: took a chance on a young coach, which clearly was

642
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Speaker 1: the right decision. A couple of years later, they are

643
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions. But this team and that team not

644
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: many similarities. Again, when the owner says, essentially, this is

645
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Speaker 1: not some of these teams in this league that are

646
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Speaker 1: gonna nuke their operation. We'll get into Miami here in

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Speaker 1: a second. Cleveland has done in the past, happens in

648
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: the NBA in Major League Baseball all the time. We

649
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: are not throwing a season away. It's why I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans over the course of the last

651
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Speaker 1: definitely ten years since they won a playoff game, but

652
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: the last several years were like, I can't watch this

653
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Steeler thing anymore. The owners weren't unhappy. They were glad

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Speaker 1: that they were competitive. They were cool with making the

655
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: playoffs every year. They would rather do that at nine

656
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: and eight or ten and seven and get curb stomped

657
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: in the first round, then win three games and throw

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Speaker 1: away a season. Literally, the people that own the franchise

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Speaker 1: told you that. So hiring Mike McCarthy, who has a

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Speaker 1: very similar kind of record to a couple guys that

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Speaker 1: we hold high regard. Right, Tomlin's got a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's got a Super Bowl. Harball had every team

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Speaker 1: in the league, teams with coaches calling him, you had Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: If he was in the situation like John Harbaugh quote

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Speaker 1: unquote available, it would be the same thing. Yet we

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Speaker 1: look at Mike McCarthy like the village idiot, right, we

667
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Speaker 1: just do bear or not. So when people when he

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00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: gets hired, everyone goes what the fuck? Right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago. His three year stretch in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Of his five years, they won the division twice, hosted

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Speaker 1: two playoff games. Now didn't have any playoff success, right,

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00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: And you look at Tomlin, not any playoff success. Now.

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Speaker 1: The difference is his quarterback situation. McCarthy had Dak which

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Speaker 1: very very fair to be critical of the McCarthy you know,

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Speaker 1: run in Dallas in terms of the playoffs, but in

676
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: regular season, like you can't dispute, he is much more

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Speaker 1: equipped next year, in the next couple of years than

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Speaker 1: the unknown of these coordinators. But they weren't gonna do

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Speaker 1: the unknown of these coordinators because one this class there

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00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: aren't any Ben Johnson out there, and two the owner

681
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: wants to try to win nine or ten games next year,

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Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy solidifies the ability to coach the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They don't have one, but at least in their mind,

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Speaker 1: he can call the plays in an offensive oriented league

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Speaker 1: and help us build up and find a quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: that's where I would pump the breaks, because again I

687
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: was not shocked when they hired Mike McCarthy, because the

688
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: owner clearly wanted to compete, which I disagree. I would

689
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Speaker 1: nuke this bad boy. I would blow this you know

690
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: what up, but they will not. That is not the

691
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Speaker 1: Steeler way. So it turns out the standard is the standard.

692
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of bs that the standard in Pittsburgh now

693
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Speaker 1: is just clawing your way to a first round exit.

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Speaker 1: But like the expectation is to make the playoffs. Anything

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Speaker 1: less than that is a failure, which in a weird

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Speaker 1: way I can't respect. Right. But here's the thing with

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. This quarterback guru obviously has a lot of

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Speaker 1: success coaching Aaron Rodgers, coaching Dak Prescott, knows how to

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Speaker 1: call the offense. No one can argue that here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: When he got hired by the Green Bay Packers. They

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Speaker 1: had two quarterbacks on the roster, both Hall of famers,

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Speaker 1: one Brett Farv and the previous year they had drafted

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Here's the thing, Mike McCarthy was the offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator for the Niners who famed chose Alex Smith over

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Now only he and a couple of people

706
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Speaker 1: inside really know how much juice he had in that decision.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like he was anti that decision. And then

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Speaker 1: when he got hired with the Cowboys, they already had

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, who was in the prime of his career.

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Speaker 1: So like this Mike McCarthy being able to just find

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Speaker 1: guys out of thin air. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: would go that far. And that is what the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers in the situation they're gonna be in because Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: whether he agrees to come back or not, kind of

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00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: a moot point. He's forty two years old. They're going

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Speaker 1: to have to find somebody capable, and he's lead led

717
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Speaker 1: a pretty charmed life of inheriting Aaron Rodgers, who was

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Speaker 1: already on the roster and obviously Dak Prescott. Hell, you

719
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: could say Aaron Rodgers best case scenario, and he deserves credit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like he didn't influence their

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Speaker 1: play and play a big role. But my point is

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Speaker 1: is fighting the guy like we all know he can

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Speaker 1: coach him. I could give Mike McCarthy tomorrow, Jared Goff,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and you know any top fifteen quarterback brock Purty,

725
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Speaker 1: you name it, Sam Darnold, and he would be competitive.

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Speaker 1: But they don't have that guy. So how do they

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Speaker 1: find the guy that would? That's the thing that I

728
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: would wonder the most now, I think for Mike McCarthy personally,

729
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Speaker 1: this has to be pretty incredible. You know when you

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Speaker 1: see like Tom Brady's and Leonardo DiCaprio's and these guys

731
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: that only date supermodels, like they don't even know what

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Speaker 1: an eight looks like, that they wouldn't even give her

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Speaker 1: the time of day. That's kind of the football eight life.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's led as a head coach. He has coached

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Speaker 1: two of the most iconic franchises in the history of

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Speaker 1: sports worldwide, in the Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl. He coached Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: then the Dallas cowboy thing. While a little weird, he

739
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: still got to be the head coach of the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys on a team for several years. It was fucking good.

741
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't get that much better. You see some

742
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: of these guys like Liam Cohen looks like a star

743
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: head coach is coaching the Jags. Jonathan Ganna got a shot.

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00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: He was coaching the Cardinals, Mike McCarthy, Packers, Cowboys, and

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00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: then he just happens to be from Pittsburgh. Probably the

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Speaker 1: most consistent franchise beside the Packers, but they didn't have

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00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: a downturn, kind of like the Packers. For fifty years

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Speaker 1: they've been winning. He gets hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is not the Tomlin entry point in the mid

750
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Speaker 1: two thousands. This is not a great entry point, and

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00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: people have dm me like Middlecoff, you've been critical of

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00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: this job. I have never disputed the gravitas of being

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, the amount of

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00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: fans they have in America worldwide. They are a fucking powerhouse.

755
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: They are a job that you would want to coach.

756
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: In terms of the franchise matters. I will never argue that,

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00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: but in terms of the entry point of front office,

758
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that great. I'm sorry. I just

759
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: judged them by their moves into my people in the

760
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: NFL that mainly on good playoff teams, some of them

761
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: still playing, a lot of them with rings, say like

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00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: a lot of clowns in that operation. So that has

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00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: not been the case historically. Right now, I got the

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Speaker 1: front office red flag, and obviously from a roster standpoint,

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00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of old players. Now you can

766
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: move on, but he still got to replace them. It's like, well,

767
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: we can move on from this guy and that guy. Okay,

768
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: how are you gonna find her next? Tja wat when

769
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: you're literally trying to find a quarterback. So you got

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00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: this dk metcalch you're just gonna cut him. You just

771
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Speaker 1: waste a second round pick, which I wouldn't blame you,

772
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Speaker 1: But like this, this roster situation from McCarthy, a lot

773
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: of question marks, a lot of question marks when the

774
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: expectation is to win or else. Because part of the

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00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: reason Tomlin just kept keeping his job year after year

776
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: after year after year, it turns out because he never lost. Right,

777
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: they were not mad at nine and ten wins. They

778
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: were happy with it. That is their standard, which is fair,

779
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: which is fair. So this McCarthy thing taking a lot

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Speaker 1: of people for a loop and surprising people, I just don't.

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00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: You must not have been paying attention to when Art

782
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Speaker 1: Rooney the seventeenth or whatever his name is spoke, because

783
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: he told you we do not take years off. Another

784
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: story from the weekend that really made me laugh is

785
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns who are forcing their coaches to take

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Speaker 1: personality test, which honestly is not that weird. I think

787
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Speaker 1: a lot of big time jobs, including the NFL, forced

788
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: players to take personality tests. But here was the thing

789
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: that jumped out to me. They had homework and they

790
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: had to write essays. And I googled this and I

791
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get to the bottom. But I would

792
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: guess that Andrew Berry, who is the GM of the

793
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, and his brother who worked on Wall Street

794
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: forever and is now working for Howie Roseman, I think

795
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: essentially this is like number two were raised by educators.

796
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: What wouldn't shock me at all. Both Ivy League guys

797
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: clearly very intellectually I would call smart, right, But the

798
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: way they look the lens in which they look through

799
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: life is based on an academic background and forcing coaches one,

800
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: it's just clown activity. There's no way around it. This

801
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: is a verbal communication. Job'd be like, hey, John, we

802
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: want you to be a podcaster or radio host, but

803
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: we need you to write a two page essay. Well,

804
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: what does that have to do with the job that

805
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to take on, Because even as a coach,

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00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: what are you ever writing? You are verbalizing to the media,

807
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: to the press, to your team. Obviously you have to

808
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: have IQ and EQ, but you're not writing essays. And

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00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: I'd argue in twenty twenty six, and I grew up

810
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: in a world where you had to learn cursive and

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Speaker 1: write a bunch of essays and have your teacher mark

812
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: it all up with a red pen. Has that ever

813
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: been less relevant? I'm not saying you don't need to

814
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: learn and read and write, but in terms of like

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Speaker 1: what you had to do in high school and college,

816
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: in terms of essays for most of these professions, pretty

817
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: fucking irrelevant in this modern day society. And I would say,

818
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: in the coaching profession, not relevant at all. And if

819
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: you need whenever you see these releases, well, the agent

820
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: slash Chat GPT are doing that now. So I think

821
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: that Barry and the mindset of judging what I'm looking

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00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: for is coming through a lens that isn't that relevant

823
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: to what you're looking for. Here's the other problem. No

824
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: one else is asking you to do this. So when

825
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: you are an organization around the league that is a

826
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: laughingstock viewed as a joke, it's hard for you to

827
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: throw curveballs that other organizations simply are not doing and

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Speaker 1: then have anyone with any credibility take you seriously. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about some guy talking into a microphone

830
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: or fans at home talking to their buddies making fun.

831
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the candidates that you're trying to hire.

832
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: There's a reason that this job, which should have more juice,

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00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: let's say, than the Cardinals, who are by far the

834
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: worst job on the market and seems like no one

835
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: wants to touch it with a ten foot poll, should

836
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: have people like at least interested because they do have

837
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: some core pieces. They got multiple first round picks. But

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00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: then I view the way that you view this operation,

839
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: it's unlike all these other places that are winning. You

840
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: think the Pittsburgh Steelers made Mike McCarthy write them A two,

841
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: of course not. Do you think the Baltimore Ravens made

842
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Minter do that? Of course not. Do you think

843
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: this happens anywhere else in terms of writing an essay

844
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Speaker 1: and doing homework. You should have done homework when you

845
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: go to the interview Welcome to Life. So when I

846
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: view the Cleveland Browns who get made fun of because

847
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: sometimes there's pushback, it's like, we're just the Uh, it's

848
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: easy to kick us when we're down. No, you bring

849
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: this upon yourself. And I think there's this like a

850
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: merging of this academic mindset that doesn't really mix here

851
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: in the football world. And I can't even imagine what

852
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: people all around the league are saying about the situation,

853
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: because when that went viral, when Palasaro said it on

854
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: NFL Network, I'm sorry, a lot of people are like,

855
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: what what did they just say? People that at least

856
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: didn't know it, because people that have already done it

857
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: have probably let it be known, like this is what's

858
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: going on there. So I just there's a reason you lose,

859
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: and these situations are reflections of you guys have no

860
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: fucking clue what you're doing. A couple more things, the

861
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: Bills involving Josh Allen in their coaching search, which I

862
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: understand you want him to have a rapport understanding and

863
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: feel like he is a business partner in this venture

864
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: because he is. When you're in business with Mahomes, when

865
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: you're in business with Josh Allen, Like, this is not

866
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: the NBA where Lebron just wants to bend you over

867
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: and screw you at any moment in terms of he's

868
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna do one hundred percent always what he wants to do.

869
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: You gotta draft my son. You don't have a choice.

870
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: And you see that article coming out, You're like, God,

871
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a pain in the ass. It's great

872
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: when he's in the prime of his career. Not in

873
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: the prime of his career. This sucks being in business.

874
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: But if you want to be in business, that's how

875
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: we operate. That's not the case. Like Patrick Mahomes, great

876
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: business partner, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, great business partners. Right

877
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL, most of these guys, the high level

878
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks great to be Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. It's credible

879
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: to be in business with him. Right, So when you

880
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: look at the Buffalo Bills. Involving him, I understand. The

881
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: only risk I see is what if he wants you

882
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: to do something that you don't want to do, Like

883
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: that is the risk of involving a player in your

884
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: coaching search that if he goes I think we should

885
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: hire X and you want to hire why does that

886
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: create some sort of tension in the building And it's avoidable.

887
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: And Bushati said this about Lamar Jackson, like, yeah, he

888
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: has influence, he just doesn't have the power, you know,

889
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: And there's a fine line. And what if Lamar Jackson

890
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: they already hired Jesse Minter, But yeah, I think the

891
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: josh Allen thing, like Philip Rivers, like sign me up

892
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: for that? That would be sick. How awesome would it

893
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: be for Philip Rivers to coach a game in paths?

894
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Like what's he doing? He's coaching game football? But yeah,

895
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: he's the backup quarterback. So if Joshua to go down,

896
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: he would just go in and then he would call

897
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: his own plays. I've said this forever about the Rivers,

898
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: the Breezes, Peyton, Manning, Brady, these guys could do any

899
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: role if they wanted to, Like, you don't think they

900
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: could be a head coach. You don't think some of

901
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: these guys we see become head coaches that are basically

902
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: gym teachers, those guys couldn't pull off. Are you out

903
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: of your mind? Philip Rivers could be a head coach tomorrow?

904
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: Would there be a learning curve? Of course? But like

905
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: what has he not seen from guys getting in trouble,

906
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: draft picks, failures, the wiring of guys. He could do it.

907
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: I actually think he could seamlessly do it. I hope

908
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: they hire him, though I doubt they do. But sign

909
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: me up for that, And honestly, I want player coach.

910
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: I want him to coach a game in pads, in

911
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: his football pants, in his shoulder pads, helmet on the side.

912
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: And if Josh rolled an ankle, he just runs in.

913
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: Tell me who wouldn't be excited for that moment? Not me,

914
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm in My guests would be Brian day Balls the coach,

915
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: And that's who Josh Allen wants if that's the case,

916
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: But who knows. Maybe him and Philip Rivers, I don't

917
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: know about their personal relationship. What if he's like I

918
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: want Philip Rivers, They're like, eh, that's kind of crazy,

919
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: but why not who enjoys football, whether your Bill's fans

920
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: or not. If I told you they hired Philip Rivers tomorrow,

921
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't especially, like, no one can argue what he just

922
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: did coming back and playing in his understanding of the

923
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: game having not played for five years. Obviously there's a

924
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: physical element of playing. There's not in coaching. But once

925
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: you watch that, you're like, this guy is a coach.

926
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean he literally is in high school. But just

927
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: like his whole thing, say with Peyton Manning, like they

928
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: did not have big arms, so they had to outthink

929
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: you that they had to go into games like there

930
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: Sean mcvair, Kyle Shanahan. They just happened to be on

931
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: the field, but their arms. Philip Rivers arm has been

932
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: weeks since he was like thirty years old, right, his

933
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: arm was a little stronger probably when he's younger, but

934
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: it's not great. Same with Drew Brees. Drew Brees never

935
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: had a big arm. He had to out thank you,

936
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: so that would be awesome. And last, but not least,

937
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: I watched the press conference for the Miami Dolphins and

938
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: they essentially did the opposite of what the Pittsburgh Steelers.

939
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Did they understand like it's time to throw some grenades

940
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: on this roster. Let's blow this you know what up?

941
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: And my big takeaway from watching these two guys, which

942
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: kind of looks similar. They both look like, I don't know,

943
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: five eleven to six foot white guys, pretty low body fat,

944
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: drink a lot of coffee, and just pretty smart guys.

945
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Like both their press conferences, a lot of you guys

946
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: have hit me in the dms, like when you become

947
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: a father, and this is definitely true of someone that

948
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: lost their dad. Things trigger you to make you emotional.

949
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: Both of them started crying about their families. And I'm

950
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: watching the thing on my phone on the StairMaster at

951
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: the gym, and I'm just crying my eyes out and

952
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: people are walking by, probably thinking like, what is wrong

953
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: with this guy? Like just watching the Miami Dolphins press

954
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: conference here half Lee's talking about his dad who passed away.

955
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: It's just it hit me. I didn't say that, but

956
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: a couple of people just like I'm like wiping my

957
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: eyes with the towel. I give the Miami Dolphins credit

958
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: that it feels like they hired pretty sharp guys obviously.

959
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: Eric John Sullivan that we're not sure that Steven Ross

960
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: knew his name. Older guy lot going on. Don't totally

961
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: blame him. Kind of a weird name too, he said,

962
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: just call me Sully. Hire the guy from the Green

963
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, which totally understand that they have a pretty

964
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: good tracker. The guys worked there for like almost twenty

965
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: five years, and Halfley has kind of been a shooting

966
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: star now for a while. So get rid of to

967
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: a bottom out, Like if you are okay with bottoming out,

968
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: hiring young people and taking a chance, is okay, right?

969
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: The Rams their expectation. They got good immediately with Sean McVay,

970
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: but they were okay with like taking a step back

971
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: to take a couple steps forward. Pittsburgh Steelers were not

972
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are. It's also a very tough job

973
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: in Miami, one I've said forever. The culture of the

974
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: city is hard to overcome. All the players have never

975
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: been rich. The city doesn't sleep. It's just there's a

976
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: ton of different shit to get into. This is not like, oh,

977
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: the guys play in New York City. They don't live

978
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: in New York City. LA. The bar shut down in

979
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: California at like eleven o'clock most days. So it's like,

980
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: what are you even gonna do? Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Green Bay,

981
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: some of these smaller cities and nothing to do Pittsburgh.

982
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: There probably has never been there no shot at Pittsburgh.

983
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to say Green Bay and Buffalo, but

984
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: it's a huge disadvantage in Miami. It just did it

985
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: in this modern day society, and you got Josh Allen

986
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: and you got the New England Patriots who might may have,

987
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: might not have won. Again recording this part before the

988
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: games need to finish so I can go watch them.

989
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: But you got an uphill battle. Luckily you got the Jets,

990
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: no excuse to lose to them. But I am really

991
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: excited to watch these guys because you watch these guys

992
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: talk football. Clearly the GM who's had a right hand

993
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: been Goudikin's right hand man now for years and mentored

994
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: under Ted Thompson for a long time in Halfley, who

995
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: was just extremely well respected around football and just kind

996
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: of comes off like a grinder. I mean, the dude

997
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: slept under his desk for a couple of years when

998
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: he was young. He gave pretty good advice when they

999
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: asked him about that situation. He's like, listen, I put

1000
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: all my chips in the middle of the table. I

1001
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: was a guy that And he even said a lot

1002
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: of people I went to college with were working in

1003
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: New York City crushing it. My first job was paying

1004
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: me twenty five hundred dollars, and I can relate to

1005
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Like when I got in football

1006
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: at Fresle State, I made a scholarship check. When the

1007
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Eagles hired me, I think I made twenty five k. No,

1008
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Benny's I mean, you're just kind of living day to

1009
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: day and all your chips are in the middle of

1010
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: the table on the situation right. A lot of these

1011
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: jobs I had friends that you know, worked in finance,

1012
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: worked in tech, even their entry level jobs, you know,

1013
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: pay a lot of money. And also like the hours,

1014
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: even if quote unquote are crazy, they ain't football. You

1015
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: see Mike McDonald, so he sees his son Jack, great name,

1016
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: by the way, thirty minutes to an hour for a

1017
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: week like this is not a normal profession and he

1018
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: wasn't asking for sympathy. It just comes with the territory.

1019
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: But Hapley put all his chips in the middle of

1020
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: the table, and twenty years later as the head coach

1021
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The volume