WEBVTT - BREAKING: Andy Green is Mets Full-Time Manager | 620

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got breaking Mets news.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Green, officially the full-time manager of the New York Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out Chelsea Janes, who I think broke the news

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<v Speaker 1>on a three-year deal. No longer interim. Andy Green's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the New York Mets manager, hopefully for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. And of course, me and James are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about it. Give us your, well, give us,

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<v Speaker 1>give you guys our opinions. I'm stumbling on who's giving who,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we're going to give you guys our opinions

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<v Speaker 1>instead of WFAN because you want to hear real ball talk. James,

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<v Speaker 1>you texted me. I didn't even know. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>pumped as soon as I saw it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Green, what? Instead of getting hired, I'm loving this move.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this move a lot. I mean, just I

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<v Speaker 2>think some people are. I think right now it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in vogue to be extra negative in the Mets

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<v Speaker 2>world right now. People are like, oh, the guy's 37, 38.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that's good enough to be manager? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually do, based on the way at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. I think that's exactly good enough to be manager.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more so than looking at the record, looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the talent on the team, which hasn't been very good

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<v Speaker 2>for the second half anyway. There's a feeling you get

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<v Speaker 2>from Andy Green that it's just the game isn't moving

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<v Speaker 2>too fast. He handles the media well. He says the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I want to hear a manager say in

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<v Speaker 2>the modern game, especially over this stretch where Winning hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been paramount in the Mets world. It hasn't been the focus.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't have been the objective over the last two

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<v Speaker 2>months when the season's been over. So I do like

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<v Speaker 2>the things he's talked about in pushing players, focusing on development.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the kinds of things that we want a

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<v Speaker 2>modern manager to be thinking about, be cerebral in that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sense. And he seems to have that locked down.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like the players have really taken to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of felt like a no-brainer. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>about Andy wanting to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Mets are what, like 23 and 19,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, since the trade deadline, which has been a

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<v Speaker 1>literally worse baseball team based on all the trades that

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets made. And they're trying out guys and and

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily playing to win. And the Mets have still

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<v Speaker 1>found a way to win. By the way, also, Mets

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<v Speaker 1>had a super hard schedule in the second half and

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<v Speaker 1>they've done a great job with Andy Green. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the main critique that I'm seeing from a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people before get going into why he was the right

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<v Speaker 1>choice is that they felt like there were better options

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<v Speaker 1>out there. And I'm seeing Alex Cora cited a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, that is baffling for people to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly feels insanely tone deaf considering Alex Cora just

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<v Speaker 1>got fired from the Boston Red Sox who had an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute mess of a locker room and clubhouse and were

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<v Speaker 1>massively underperforming. Chad Tracy steps in. It wasn't immediate, but

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<v Speaker 1>what do you know? The Red Sox have been one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best teams in baseball ever. since he stepped

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<v Speaker 1>in and it feels like they're playing a lot better

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and the vibes are a lot better the Mets

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<v Speaker 1>all these people love to run with how messy the

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<v Speaker 1>clubhouse was the lack of leadership all this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and the best option available is Alex Cora who

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't handle a messy clubhouse already I that one to

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<v Speaker 1>me makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I also say this I haven't heard anything bad about

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets clubhouse this year none of those stories have

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<v Speaker 2>leaked out a lot of bad things about the play

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<v Speaker 2>on the field that's been dog shit for sure and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't Tracy also get his extension today he did yeah Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good day. Good day for interim managers. And

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<v Speaker 2>also the Alex Cora thing. He's just definitely going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Phillies manager. It seems like a pretty foregone conclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that's been cited as a negative for

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Green, just to kind of bash those, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go through some more positives. We have some

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<v Speaker 2>player quotes coming out. Will Samorodical literally just dropped them.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of read it on the side as we're doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's about how poor Andy Green's teams were in

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego when he was a manager there. He was

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<v Speaker 2>well below.

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<v Speaker 3>500.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a. 274 and. 366 player. win-loss record in

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<v Speaker 2>four years the Padres those teams are fucking awful those

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<v Speaker 2>are terrible awful Padres teams and since then Andy Green

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<v Speaker 2>was on a major league bench for a little while

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<v Speaker 2>but the Cubs was that before just after the Padres

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<v Speaker 2>we spent a lot of time in the front office

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<v Speaker 2>since then this is very anecdotal this is very much

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<v Speaker 2>me probably thinking like survivorship bias in my head but

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of times even the other sports too

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<v Speaker 2>you failed the first job You get the second one,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a little bit more sense about how to

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<v Speaker 2>go about this. And when Andy Green got that Padres job,

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<v Speaker 2>he was 38 years old. 38 years old. He could

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<v Speaker 2>have been playing. He probably wish he was. But now

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time right now, he seems more seasoned.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, he has that front office sheen that I

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<v Speaker 2>do kind of like when a guy comes into the dugout.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Cora had that too when he got that job

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<v Speaker 2>with the Red Sox. I do think that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>valuable thing this day and age. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>Mets team, because of the lack of continuity we had

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<v Speaker 2>last year that we were very critical of heading into

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<v Speaker 2>the season with keeping Mendoza, retaining, then hiring all these

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<v Speaker 2>new coaches. I think this team desperately needed some continuity

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<v Speaker 2>heading into next season. I think this accomplishes that at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's something that we've talked about is just what

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<v Speaker 1>felt like at times a disconnect between the front office

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<v Speaker 1>and manager and even coaches and managers and just leadership. Like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>say what you want about the teams in San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>about Andy Green that he managed. They did not perform well.

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<v Speaker 1>Also looking at the rosters, like you said, They were horrendous. Like, 2019,

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation that the Padres had in the year that

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<v Speaker 1>he got fired was Joey Lucchese, Eric Lauer, Chris Paddock,

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<v Speaker 1>Cal Quantrill, Denelson, Lemaitre, and Nick Margavicious. Almost all of

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<v Speaker 1>them are going to be playing for the Savannah Bananas

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<v Speaker 1>within the next two years.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like, it's not like.

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<v Speaker 1>These are great teams. They had great offense, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did not have great pitching. I'm not going to fully

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<v Speaker 1>blame him for that. I also don't think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect manager by any means.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>heaping the praises of him as if you know you

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<v Speaker 1>brought in these world series winning managers but based on

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<v Speaker 1>what we have seen for andy green's time as the

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<v Speaker 1>new york mets manager in 2026 he has clearly done

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<v Speaker 1>a much better job with this roster with less than

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who was previously.

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<v Speaker 2>Here and again to look at win-loss record i think

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<v Speaker 2>can be a bit reductive it's more of a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>thing like it feels like the game is moving at

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<v Speaker 2>a pace for andy remore it's good it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>there's more synergy between Andy Green and these other coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and the veteran players. The decision-making makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not seeing Alex Carrillo, the first guy out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pen out of the All-Star break, in a close

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<v Speaker 1>baseball game. We're not seeing those things. And actually, he

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<v Speaker 1>has an opportunity to be even sharper when the Mets

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<v Speaker 1>are playing games that they care about winning every single

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<v Speaker 1>time and not focused on development as much.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited to see what that looks like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like if we looked at a Puritan decision

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<v Speaker 2>success index for Andy Green. I don't think it would

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<v Speaker 2>be great just because, again, I think the Mets are

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on development. They're pushing guys for extra innings, giving

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<v Speaker 2>guys extra at-bats. Jeffrey Yon's got three innings. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>focused on winning a game. We're focused on seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>guys can do, what guys can handle. And just some

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<v Speaker 2>notes here, one from Chelsea Janes and now first from

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<v Speaker 2>Will Salmon. From his article directly, we know that Will's

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<v Speaker 2>very connected with his ball club. Some of the Mets'

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<v Speaker 2>veteran players hoped for Green to stay on as the

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<v Speaker 2>full-time skipper. They appreciated his communication, trust, and how he

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<v Speaker 2>handled the media. They saw him as a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of the veteran players in the Mets organization

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<v Speaker 1>liked Andy Green. If I had to guess who those

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<v Speaker 1>guys could be, hear me out, James. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>throw out some crazy takes. Francisco Lindor wants Soto.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a thought. I'm hoping there. There was the situation

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<v Speaker 2>with Lindor and Mendoza where it felt like he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of got to make his own rules. I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe that's just going to always be the case

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<v Speaker 2>with him here. With Soto, too, if Eric Chavez was

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<v Speaker 2>telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like both those guys did. So maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>they like him, maybe they do like that they're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe they actually like being relatively held a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more accountable. And it also can't be understated that the

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<v Speaker 2>way that green has these relationships with the young players

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<v Speaker 2>on this team from being in player development in this

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<v Speaker 2>org for the last few years. And we had it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also before we even go on, I totally forgot this.

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<v Speaker 2>A ton of credit to your dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad called this early, super early. No one was

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<v Speaker 2>on this ahead of Mark senior. Absolutely nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's been calling this since the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was calling for Carlos Mendoza, get fired at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of 2025. My dad's like, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>should be Andy green's job. That's going to be my

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<v Speaker 1>outside call. no one's more on fire right now than,

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<v Speaker 1>than big Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But here's another one, another point here from salmon,

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<v Speaker 2>even before moving to the dugout, green has strong relation

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<v Speaker 2>relationships with the Mets, younger players, including standout rookies, Carson bench,

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan McLean, AJ Ewing, after monitoring their respective ups and

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<v Speaker 2>downs in the farm system, green felt comfortable in pushing them.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also heard green speak about Jacob Reimer, Jonathan Santucci,

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<v Speaker 2>other guys, he has relationships with who we expect to

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<v Speaker 2>possibly part of this team next year, or maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>year after that. It's just, It feels very... it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it just made too much sense not to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again, knowing how weird the manager market can

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<v Speaker 1>be during any normal offseason, let alone an offseason where

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lockout and you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to interview guys and find those guys

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<v Speaker 1>in as much time as you normally would, I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that this is a no-brainer. Honestly, the biggest shock

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<v Speaker 1>of this all is that Andy Green wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>the manager. It felt like every single thing we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from him since taking this job was that he was

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be the manager. You talked about it in,

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<v Speaker 1>what was our last episode, about... You'd never heard so

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<v Speaker 1>much about work-life balance before from two possible candidates. Was

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<v Speaker 1>he just posturing to get a better deal?

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<v Speaker 2>He definitely might have been, but also maybe we should

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<v Speaker 2>have seen this writing on the wall. We were circling

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<v Speaker 2>around the drain. We couldn't nail it when Beltran's comments

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<v Speaker 2>about it too, like throwing cold water on himself as

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<v Speaker 2>the manager. We should be like, ah, maybe this does

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<v Speaker 2>feel like anti-Green. Because again, it felt too easy. This

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<v Speaker 2>is also, some people will like this comment. Most people

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<v Speaker 2>will hate this comment. This is a massive vote of

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<v Speaker 2>confidence in the... continuity of this front office, this regime

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<v Speaker 2>in general. This is, this is absolutely a David Stearns guy.

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<v Speaker 2>David Stearns hired him to be part of his front office.

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<v Speaker 2>And now what's Stearns contract left with the Mets? Two

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<v Speaker 2>more years. Okay. So he basically, he's got, he basically

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<v Speaker 2>got them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his guy and he's going to be here

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<v Speaker 1>till the end of that contract is what that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Stearns has two more years and Andy Green has

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<v Speaker 2>minimum two years at the helm, which is fair for

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<v Speaker 2>a three-year deal. And if everything goes wrong in the

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<v Speaker 2>next two seasons, again, they both get the chop and

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<v Speaker 2>then we keep moving on. We do the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>over again, but this is, This is a modern manager.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy played. He was in the front office. He

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<v Speaker 2>was in the dugout. Then he went back in the

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<v Speaker 2>front office. Now he's back in the dugout. Him and

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<v Speaker 2>Stearns have a good relationship. The players like him. I

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<v Speaker 2>got quotes here from Soto and Lindor too from Chelsea Janes.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was? From Lindor. I have a lot of respect

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<v Speaker 2>for Andy. I think he's been good at the role

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<v Speaker 2>that he's got right now. Not necessarily the role of

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<v Speaker 2>managing because I didn't see this role this year for

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<v Speaker 2>him to manage. His role right now was come in,

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<v Speaker 2>bring light, bring ownership, bring respect, bring accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>Big.

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<v Speaker 2>Succeed He succeeded at that. I love that. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then also here from, was this Soto or is this Lindor?

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<v Speaker 2>I think this might be Lindor still. In-game stuff, plays

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. He's made good moves, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>judge him on those things. I don't really care about that.

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<v Speaker 2>He was put in here to bring more light to

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<v Speaker 2>the players, to bring accountability, to bring the same basic goal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>basically the same goal. Bring accountability, bring respect, bring self-awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he's brought to the role he's in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Team desperately needed that. And Soto, I think he's been good.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has his personality. He's great. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy who's on top of everything, pays attention

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<v Speaker 2>to every single detail and stuff like that. I really

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Soto told SMY, he's been open with me

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<v Speaker 2>and talking to me about a lot of stuff. Yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Good lip service for the two leaders to get this going.

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<v Speaker 2>Great lip service.

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<v Speaker 1>And me, I have to read between the lines. And

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like there might have been a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>some of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we heard the Tommy Pham quotes way back when.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a couple managers ago. But still, it just

0:11:09.250 --> 0:11:12.010
<v Speaker 2>seems like this Mets team has been chickening out ahead

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<v Speaker 2>for years now. So Jay, do you ever find yourself

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<v Speaker 2>crashing in the afternoon, needing a boost, but not wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to have caffeine that you know is going to ruin

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<v Speaker 2>your sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, definitely. I found myself on the golf course

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<v Speaker 3>a lot lately. And sometimes, you know, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It at least brings some stability to this team, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because we know that Mendoza was dead man walking to

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<v Speaker 1>start the year. Again, probably wasn't the best thing for

0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.280
<v Speaker 1>them to do was fire all his coaches around him

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<v Speaker 1>and then keep him.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't really make sense. That's on David Stearns.

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<v Speaker 1>But now these guys were, I'm sure, part of Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Green helping bring them in as well. And seemingly, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's other things that we've seen with this team that

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<v Speaker 1>have improved as well. The defense has gotten better since

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Green has taken over. The at-bats have gotten better.

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<v Speaker 1>The production from a lot of players.

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<v Speaker 2>Have gotten better.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether or not that is fully on Andy Green,

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<v Speaker 1>or if that's more of a, I just did a

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<v Speaker 1>video on my channel about how the Yankees lineup without

0:12:51.750 --> 0:12:53.900
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Judge is so much worse, not because of missing

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<v Speaker 1>his bat, but because of the boost he gives to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else around him.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe now all the coaches and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Staff works more cohesively too with the players because there's

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<v Speaker 1>one clear voice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I was going to get at. We hypothesized

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<v Speaker 2>early this season from other conversations that we had that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there were conflicting voices in the Mets dugout early on.

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<v Speaker 2>That was something that was working against this team with

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<v Speaker 2>all new coaches and a team that was very clearly

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<v Speaker 2>not playing to their potential, not really utilizing maybe all

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<v Speaker 2>of the talents they had in the room to the

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<v Speaker 2>best of their abilities, coaches, players, this and that. It

0:13:25.380 --> 0:13:27.160
<v Speaker 2>seems like they have actually done that. This team feels

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<v Speaker 2>like they've more so maximized what they've had over the

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<v Speaker 2>last few months. Again, it's not a good roster, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's why it's still only 37-38 since Andy Green took over.

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<v Speaker 2>maybe 38, 38 tomorrow. Most of you guys listen to this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. It just feels like there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a different feel with him. Like that, that Zach Thornton

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<v Speaker 2>with the Yankees, leaving him out there. That felt just like,

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<v Speaker 2>that felt like a cool manager move right there. I'm

0:13:46.860 --> 0:13:48.760
<v Speaker 2>a cool manager move. That's me sound like a fucking idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, wow, you sound nuts. There's something, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about that. That's a cool manager move. But like, there's,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Give your guy a chance to like

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<v Speaker 2>prove you. It took like 20 seconds to like in, out.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about it. Like, let's keep moving. It's just, Team

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<v Speaker 2>seems to ride for him. I bet they, like, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of push this, too, maybe helping him change his mind

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<v Speaker 2>about Stephen Alex Cohen, probably paying him some good money

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<v Speaker 2>to do so as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there was definitely a conversation had that

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<v Speaker 1>included Steve Cohen, David Stearns, Andy Green, and the two,

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<v Speaker 1>the billion-dollar boys, Francisco Lindor and Juan Sobo.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that name. The billion-dollar boys. That might be

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<v Speaker 2>our new tagline here, the Billion Dollar Boys. The Billion

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<v Speaker 2>Dollar Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>I just came up with that on the fly. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good that that rolled off the tongue so well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to imagine that the meeting was with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was, does this sound good? And I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you everybody agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Billion Dollar Boys. With the Billion Dollar Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm very happy about it. I am not going

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<v Speaker 1>to argue with people on Twitter. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>something I will not do about the people upset about

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<v Speaker 1>hiring Andy Green. I won't fall for that bait.

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<v Speaker 2>I normally do.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's not Alex Cora, who else did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want? Because how many times have we heard we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want a first-time manager? Carlos Beltran, technically second-time manager,

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<v Speaker 1>first-time manager, though, if you preferred him, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>preferred Albert Pujols, or Yadier Molina, or any of these

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<v Speaker 1>other abstract names that would have been thrown out there,

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<v Speaker 1>did you want someone who was getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Fired from teams this year? Yeah, probably not. Again, this

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<v Speaker 2>just clearly makes the most sense for the continuity thing

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<v Speaker 2>we keep talking about. Whether or not we all think

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<v Speaker 2>the right people are in place right now, next year's

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<v Speaker 2>team is probably better off if you just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>keep things rolling. And this kind of... When the season

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<v Speaker 2>completely got fucked. That's the best way I can describe

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<v Speaker 2>it early in the season. This is the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we could have hoped for. Get a grip. Get

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<v Speaker 2>a real leader of men in here. Get a voice.

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<v Speaker 2>And then carry any kind of positive momentum. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the team mostly has done that over the last two months.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can go into this offseason. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the weirder offseasons any of these players, executives,

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<v Speaker 2>coaches will ever experience. And you feel like you're still

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<v Speaker 2>all on the same page at least to a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to leave the haters with two things to

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<v Speaker 2>think about. One.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are so against, right, the whole analytic movement

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<v Speaker 1>and the David Sturge front office and all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, right? I think Andy Green has done a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of being a mix of both. He has

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot of feel things. He has also done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things by the analytics book, what the

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<v Speaker 1>front office would want. AJ Ewing's played plenty of games

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<v Speaker 1>against lefties. Even Jared Young has played games against lefties.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers would tell you it's not a great decision,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still doing it because they need those guys

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<v Speaker 1>to get that feel, or they were feeling that that

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<v Speaker 1>was the right decision in the time. Same thing with

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<v Speaker 1>pinch hitting and pitching changes, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a good mix there. Also, for credit for

0:16:20.470 --> 0:16:22.910
<v Speaker 1>Andy Green here, and again, the haters, I told you

0:16:22.930 --> 0:16:24.590
<v Speaker 1>this Mets team was going to suck. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to stink, right?

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<v Speaker 2>They were going to be awful. Wouldn't you be pleasantly.

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<v Speaker 1>Surprised if this awful, awful team played 500 baseball for

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<v Speaker 1>a stretch of time, more than 10 games? That feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that would be a positive if this Mets team

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<v Speaker 1>was truly as bad as all the haters out there

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<v Speaker 1>were saying they knew it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. And also for the other haters out there, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they got a dozen of them out of 500 record.

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<v Speaker 2>What if the Mets go four and two over their

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<v Speaker 2>last six? Yeah. It goes over 500 record.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it goes over 500. With this horrible team, with

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<v Speaker 2>the horrible, horrible roster that the Mets have. Andy Green

0:16:53.090 --> 0:16:54.870
<v Speaker 2>right now would be able to win the American League

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<v Speaker 2>West with this record. Easily. The Mets would be two

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<v Speaker 2>games out of it, if anything. We'd have a huge

0:17:00.460 --> 0:17:02.020
<v Speaker 2>series of the Rangers right now to kind of push

0:17:02.060 --> 0:17:03.930
<v Speaker 2>us over the line. Let's just take the Mets and

0:17:04.250 --> 0:17:09.490
<v Speaker 2>move them somewhere else. Manager, I think sometimes it gets

0:17:09.730 --> 0:17:13.030
<v Speaker 2>very much overstated and understated in terms of baseball these days.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that we're trying to kind of draw

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<v Speaker 2>the middle ground. This isn't like the biggest piece of

0:17:17.140 --> 0:17:19.700
<v Speaker 2>thing that could ever happen. It also definitely doesn't mean nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of the external factors around, I have to

0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:24.940
<v Speaker 2>say I'm very, very happy about this move.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like we have an adult in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>a leader, and that's something that I've desperately wanted for

0:17:28.810 --> 0:17:30.690
<v Speaker 1>the New York Mets, and our previous guy was not that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm happy. From that alone, I'm happy, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might catch me on September 22nd next year screaming how

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<v Speaker 1>much I hate Andy Green.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a very good chance. We're allowed to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we get the podcast every single day and

0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.800
<v Speaker 1>scream and yell because we've got to bring the takes,

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<v Speaker 1>and if that's what it takes for us, then I

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to. I'm not going to hold myself to

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<v Speaker 1>one take and one take only.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely not. But right now, September 22nd, 2026, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>and James, stamp approval on Andy Green. Yes, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Billionaire Boys. I gave them the stamp of.

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<v Speaker 3>Approval, too.

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<v Speaker 2>We love the Billionaire Boys. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for watching this

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<v Speaker 2>Media at James Chiano. And I'm Draft Nick Mark. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>catch you guys on the next one. Peace out. Peace out, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go Mets.