1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Coming. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Good morning world and welcome to the Nodongks podcast 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. 4 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: It's Wednesday, June twenty third. I'm J. E. Skeith, rolling 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: with the homie past Mellics basketball. Got my top shot, 6 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: hot boy Trey Kirby. Hi, he will the international Man 7 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: of Mystery taking it to the Max Leellis Friend. Finally, 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: the man, the myth, the legend making the magic happen 9 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: is JD. 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Hello. 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: There he is here. 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Okay, fun show 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: lined up, We have our Eastern Conference Finals preview and predictions. Yes, 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: Hawks versus the Bucks tip off tonight game one, so 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: we'll get into that talk a little bit about the 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: NBA Draft lottery, the winners and losers, some of our 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: favorite moments. But we start by throwing a naleu to 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: a man. Task here eight and sores for the last 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: second hoop as the Suns beat the Clippers. Un insane 28 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: game kept us all up pretty late here on the 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: East Coast. But uh, tasks have at it. What did 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: you think of that one? 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: I loved it. What a phenomenal game. I mean, this 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: thing had it all. A team never up double digits 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: throughout the entire games, so you're just drawn in because 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: you didn't know where it was going to go, especially 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: with the coaching of these two guys like Monty Williams 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: lets mckel Bridges under three minutes left shoot when he 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: was sort of invisible all game. He was one to 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: five all game. He hit one field goal. They'd run 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: a play for him out of a timeout for Bridges 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: to hit a three, and he did. Everybody is making plays. 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Usually in that situation, you just go to your best player, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: right Devin Booker, You're coming off a forty point game. 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: You got this take us home, man. But the coaching 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: was matched from the other side. Patrick Beverly was starting 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: in this game for the first time in a month, 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and he did a great job against Devin Booker. So 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Den Booker was sort of taken out of this game. 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean everything is just sort of puzzling things you 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect. Cameron Payne was the leading scorer of this game, 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty nine points. A guy you know, released from his 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: last two NBA teams. He went to the g Leigue, 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: he went to China. He a scored twenty nine. He 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: had the up and under in the lane. He save 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: Dario Sariz from being a Ben Simmons when he didn't 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: dunk the ball. I mean, he was getting to the rim. 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: He was doing everything. Obviously. DeAndre Ayton with twenty four points, 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: it was he had that first huge valupe. I thought 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: that would be his biggest value out like gorgeous plays everywhere, 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: even like everybody like Patrick Beverly again starting for the 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: first time in a month. Great move by Tylu like 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: he pumped, faked on a three, looked at his defender 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: and then hit a three in his face. I mean, where, Wow, 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: who's writing this stuff like this? And then getting to 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the end of the game, yea, the villain. You have 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the villain in Patrick Beverley. This game definitely has it 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: all the ridiculous flop on Devin Booker getting in his 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: face headbutting him, you know, by accident or whatever, and 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: then saying to him like, hey man, we're friends, like 69 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: the fake high five. Devin Booker's like, no, I'm not 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: going to give you a high five, man, I'm playing 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: basketball against you. I hate you. And and and we 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: almost had two game winners at the end there with 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Devin Booker hitting the go ahead shot twenty seven seconds 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: left and Paul George twenty two seconds left only to 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: set up but Patrick Beverley out of bounds call, which 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: was nuts. But all that stuff with Patrick Beverley, I 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: was very happy that the Phoenix Suns ended this game 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: on the Jay Triano ally oop. Jay Trando, former coach 79 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: of the Phoenix Suns, he told Tyson Chandler, you know what, man, 80 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: on an inbounds play, there is no offensive goaltending you 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: can score above the rim. Jay Triano's Canadian. The game 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: was made by a Canadian. He knows the frickin' rules, 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: unlike the referees who have to go look at it 84 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: for a thousand years but just look at your phone 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: while these guys are doing a video review. There's funny 86 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: stuff on your phone. Yeah, that part's unfortunate, no doubt. 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: But DeAndre Ayton took this thing home on a glorious, 88 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: glorious play and he was a hero. I mean, you know, 89 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: we could talk about this game all day. I'm just 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna go check. 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: The way we should talk about this game is after 92 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: everybody takes their turn, we go to the scorer's table 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: and review exactly what they said. But after every single point. 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: What a crazy last minute of basketball that was. The 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: Suns had the ball and they were down one with 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: nine seconds left, is that right? And they still pulled 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: out this win because of obviously the missed free throws 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: and the crazy alley you. But yeah, man, it really 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: pays off to watch random basketball games over the years, 100 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: because I don't think that the Jay Triano play is 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 4: well known because apparently people were super confused. But you 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: can't have a shot attempt on an out of bombs player, 103 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: so it worked out perfectly. And if you happen to 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: be following basketball and the Phoenix Suns not a good 105 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 4: team back in twenty seventeen, that's the only way you 106 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: know about this, But the Sons knew about it and 107 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: it worked out perfectly. It also worked out perfectly that 108 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: Jay Crowder wasn't like right underneath the basket, Yeah, pass 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: would be impossible. Yeah, if he wasn't standing you know, 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: ten feet further to the left or whatever it is, 111 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: gave the perfect angle. 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 5: He put it right on the rim. 113 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 4: I think DeAndre eight ate and even said that's Jay 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: Crowder's game winner. Really, all he had to do was 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: go up and kind of whoop to give it a 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 4: little David Robinson down. I love the huddle with Monty 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: Williams where he's like, hey da, if he throws it, 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: you gotta like try to dunk it. Good advice worked out, 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: worked out for the Sun's crazy stuff. 120 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lee, Yeah, what a play call for 121 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: money Williams. What a backscreen from Booker there on su 122 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: MutS get real physical with him. What a pass of 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: course from Crowder, And then what a finish there from Ayton. 124 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a massive what if game here 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: for the Clippers, right, Like what if Paul George hits 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: a couple free throws even one? Maybe? You know, what 127 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: if the Clippers grabbed that defensive rebound on the bridges. 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: I guess miss three in the corner there, like like 129 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: Trey was saying, like where it even just ended up 130 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: out of bounds? What if they don't even demand an 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: instant replay review on that to allow Money Williams and 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: the Sons to basically have a free time out to 133 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: call up this lob play. What if Cousins makes it 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: a little more difficult for Crowder to not get that angle, 135 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: like just stand a little bit more, big guy, get 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: his way in front of the rim. You know, there's 137 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: less than a second. It's probably gonna be around there. 138 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: And what if even like Zubats has just parked under 139 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: the rim and they don't have them moving in space, 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: and then there's a back what if? 141 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: What if? 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: What if? And here are the Suns up to? Oh 143 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: and we can get into the whole instant replays and 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: and whether this is like really bad for for the 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: league and all that, but just the game itself. Let 146 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: me go on the table again, Lee, I mean, did 147 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: you you stayed up right? You couldn't have gone to 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: bed for this one? 149 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 150 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 6: Well, because I got home lights so I started l 151 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 6: so I was behind on schedule, So I was up late, 152 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 6: and I was like, I didn't even have the I 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 6: didn't even have the energy to do practice your free 154 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 6: throws because I felt so bad for Paul George, because honestly. 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: You didn't hold George, because people. 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: Know I wanted to practice anyway, like the things. 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, the respect I have for how the clip has 158 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 6: stayed in this game. There was a on there in 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 6: about that third quarter where the Avalanche felt the crowd 160 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 6: again going crazy, and Luke Canardi in that fourth quarter 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 6: actually was huge for the hitting some of those threes, 162 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 6: just stepping into them. I'm like, no, great shot, Luke Canard, 163 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 6: You're awesome, dude. That's that's wild. But for Paul George, 164 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 6: you know he did. He made the great play to 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 6: get the lay up, and then he hit the mid ranger. 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 6: He did all the right things a star should do. Good, good, 167 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 6: high percentage looks, gets the lucky call as far as 168 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 6: the overturn, he goes to the free throw line, and 169 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 6: then he goes along on that second one, and yeah, 170 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: one of those free throws at least almost guarantees an 171 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 6: extension of the game. You know that the Sons were 172 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: probably going to run a similar play to what they 173 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 6: ran there with Aton or no. Hang on, they had 174 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 6: more time lift, didn't they? Actually they could have. They 175 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 6: could have maybe gone for three, but I think they 176 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 6: probably would have gone for a book a mid ranger 177 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 6: to try to extend the game. Who knows whatever, But 178 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 6: I just I just. 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: Think if he heads both three throws that they're not losing. 180 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 6: No, well, that's right, that's right. But I'm saying if 181 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: he hits one, then then you know they also may 182 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 6: not lose on that last possession he goes to over 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 6: time or whatever. But you know, he was clearly struggling 184 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 6: last night. Paul Georgia Legs looked a little bit heavy. 185 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 6: You know, he hit the big three though Lady only 186 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 6: went one for eight from downtown, and he was trying 187 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 6: to do everything that a start can do. He got 188 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 6: some help from his supporting cast there, and you just, 189 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 6: honestly you felt the Clippers earned that one. I really 190 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 6: do think that everything they've gone through, they played well enough. 191 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 6: Now the overturned call on when when Beverly knocked it 192 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: out of Devin Booker's hands, you know, by the rules, 193 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 6: oh my god, they got it correct. 194 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: But we all know it's Patrick Beverly's signature move at 195 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 4: this point. Yeah, nark and the ball out of a 196 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: guy's hand barely in the last couple of seconds. Did 197 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: it Christmas Day right against Lebron a few years ago. 198 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 7: But I think it was come on, perfectionism here is 199 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 7: ruining basketball and all sports really when it comes to 200 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 7: instant replace, I think it is. 201 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: It's just it's got it just goes overboard where. 202 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 6: Well in that in that instance, you know, again it's 203 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: clearly Beverly's you know, movement that knocks the ball out. 204 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 6: And yes, it technically comes up with his hands, but 205 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 6: if you're going to do that, then then okay, do 206 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: it for every single call when he goes out of 207 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 6: bounds on a contested rebound, on a block shot. 208 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: Because they would take twelve hours exactly. 209 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 6: And those calls would be overturned all the time. And 210 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: I and again we you know, if you're gonna follow it, 211 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 6: rule's fine. But I think we all understand that in basketball, 212 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 6: that's not off off Booker, that's off Patrick Bedley because 213 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 6: he knocked it out. And if you're gonna get down 214 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 6: and you know, down to the nitty gritty like that, 215 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 6: it's going to ruin the game, and that took way 216 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 6: too long as well. 217 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: You know that eight seconds of this game took eight 218 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: minutes and the last ninety seconds of the game took 219 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: almost a half an hour. Yeah, and what they had 220 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: to do, it's really in And look we're sickos. We're 221 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: gonna watch it. Everybody, I'm sure watching the show here 222 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: today or listening to the podcast, we're gonna watch basketball 223 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: if it's five hours long, because we love it. But 224 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: it's not for us here where. You've got to get 225 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: rid of this and clean it up and maybe just 226 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: get rid of it completely. All these instant replay reviews. 227 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: It's for casual fans. It's to get more fans, because 228 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: that's not exciting if you are on the East Coast 229 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: or your internet or whatever time it is, like that's 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: that's not keeping you interested, I know, to ask you 231 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: like jokes like well, look at your phone. There's a 232 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: lot of funny stuff going on Twitter. Man Lee couldn't 233 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: even he didn't have the energy. Even it's too much. 234 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 5: One more time. 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 6: The thing is with it, I honestly think they need 236 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 6: to be It's either thirty seconds to change the call 237 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 6: or to jump all or you just stick with the 238 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 6: call you've got. But dragging it out like that when 239 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 6: we were all watching it, going okay, fine, call it 240 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 6: off him. Then if you're gonna call it, but you 241 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 6: don't need six thousand different replays of it. You know, 242 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: it's the same one when it went off Zobats and 243 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 6: DeAndre Ayton there, Well we can see it like cause 244 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 6: we get to see the same thing, Like why do 245 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 6: they need to continually look at it. It's like, okay, 246 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: it's off him. 247 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: The pendulum has definitely swung way too far in that 248 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: direction because when when Booker hit Patrick Beverley in the 249 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: face and Patrick Beverley flopped, there was no whistle. They 250 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: just decided after Patrick Beverley was lying on the ground 251 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: and everyone was complaining that, yeah, we're gonna go video 252 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: review it just in case it was a lagrant fowl 253 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: or if it was excessive or whatever. And the same 254 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: thing with that, Patrick Beverley out of den off of 255 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Devin Booker's hands. Like we all know in basketball, if 256 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: a guy swipes on the defensive side of the ball 257 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: and knocks it out, it's it's the offensive teams ball, 258 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: like that's it. That's it. But but now yeah, the 259 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: pendulum has swung. And so we're watching Scott Foster and 260 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: his what are those shoes? If you guys saw those, 261 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean those that are like real corrective shoes, They're monstrous. 262 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a good luck. 263 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I actually didn't know. 264 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: They're huge. Yeah, it's hard. It's kind of hard to see. 265 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: I didn't get a great, great screen grap but yeah, 266 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: they're they're real. They're real old man shoes that are 267 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: just a little too thick. But anyways, uh, maybe he's 268 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: got a sponsorship deal. Maybe Scott Foster's got a shoe 269 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: sponsorship wearing. 270 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: That's why he's always trying to get on camera. 271 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's just it went way too far. 272 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: And and I I guess, you know, we can be 273 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: mad about the video reviews. I was a little bit 274 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: more mad just with Patrick Beverley in general, because that's 275 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: what his reputation is, you know, tough, hard nosed guy, 276 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: plays defense, knocks it off you. But if you live 277 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: by that code, if you live by that code, like 278 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm the man, every single possession, I'm tough, you can't 279 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: be flopping all over the place. He's got to go 280 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: one way or the other. 281 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: Which one do you want? 282 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: Man? 283 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. The man has to have a code 284 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: and he's breaking his own coat and and Damian Lillard 285 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: was tweeting flopping all over them in place. That's exactly 286 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: what happened. And Devin Booker showed how tough he is. 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, kudos to him and just how 288 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: how hard knows no pun intended, but but listen like 289 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: his I I took a screen grab of his nose 290 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: to show it to you because I think that thing 291 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: is broke. 292 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: Well he says it's not. They just said it's crooked. 293 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: I showed more of this and she's like, what, oh no, 294 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: you know, like she's she thought he was a good 295 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: looking guy. 296 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: He is. I think his name is Devin ARMANI Booker. 297 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: That's a good looking name. 298 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeahs is. 299 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 6: The is one of the most weird a sort of 300 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 6: injuries because I think it must affixed your breathing. And 301 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 6: you saw it as well, like with the swelling and 302 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 6: all that. But it's like, just go ahead there and 303 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 6: keep on going. I mean, he's gonna have to wear 304 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 6: a mask for the rest of the series, isn't he? 305 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 6: Because uh, I think I mean. 306 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: Polton was one of his favorite players. Yeah, all time 307 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: might be he might be pumped to wear a mask. 308 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 309 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: It's a big time Kobe fan, right, and Kobe had 310 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: some great performances wearing a mask, so I wouldn't be surprised. 311 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: I'm just reminded of I feel like it was last 312 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: week we were talking with Cameron Payin. Is the nose 313 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: a part of the face, and now we got more 314 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: nose drama. Incredible stuff, especially considering you know, if you're 315 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: going deep into Phoenix Sun's history, Steve Nash with the 316 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: broken nose, uh, blood everywhere, you know, just shoving any 317 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: piece of cotton they can find up there. I guess 318 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: that's how you fix a bloody note, and you're trying 319 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: to fix it as fast as possible. Phoenix just looks 320 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: for any sort of cotton ball. They're like, uh, open 321 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: those nostrils. 322 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 6: But it was like he was like a Formula one 323 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: driver in the pits. When they had they they had 324 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: the tails up like that and then it was like 325 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 6: the drop get back up. And even on that played, 326 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 6: Patrick Beverly's like, what I didn't touch you. You might didn't 327 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 6: touch you. 328 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: He was like, I'm bleeding. Well, yeah, you're bleeding because 329 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: you got to collide like that one. Yeah, I mean 330 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: I said places where he probably shouldn't. Uh, that's how 331 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: he plays, So it's not a surprise. But I think 332 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: that I don't think Beverly's purposely trying to like jam 333 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: his head into Booker's nose. It's it's they're a little 334 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: too close and they both get banged up there and 335 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: had to exit the game and then did return. But yeah, 336 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: the flop from the the forearm from Booker was a 337 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: little much. 338 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: And I'm with you, task like you're gonna be this 340 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: uh this dog out there and then you're just gonna 341 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: like flop around. Uh. That's that's weird. But what back 342 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: to ty tray, back to the instant reereplay though, what 343 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: do you think we should do to try and fix this? 344 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 7: Like? 345 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: What what is the solution is? Is there a is 346 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: it a clock for the referees when they they go 347 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: to the like we basically need referees for the referees. Uh, 348 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: get rid of it completely. What do you what would 349 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: you do if you're you know, Silver and the rules 350 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: committee or whatever. 351 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 5: Something's got to change. There's no doubt about that. 352 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: Honestly, maybe, like the unified review system that they use 353 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: for soccer is pretty good where they have just one 354 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: person who does it, and maybe a shot clock is 355 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: what they need, and then we're going to be reviewing. 356 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: Did they get the review done in twenty four seconds? 357 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but the NBA is 358 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: going out of their way to combat these offensive players 359 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: kind of jumping backwards and jumping sidewards and turning this 360 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: into a file, something that people have been complaining a 361 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: lot about. 362 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 5: During this season. 363 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: I feel like after the way things went down last 364 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: night with the last like you heard it on every 365 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: single episode of Sports Center, You're going to hear it 366 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: on a ton of podcasts. 367 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: You already heard it here once. 368 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: The last ninety minutes took thirty or last ninety seconds 369 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: took thirty three minutes. And when that's something that keeps 370 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: coming up in the discussion about the game, it's bad 371 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: for the game. So they got to speed it up. 372 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you want the right calls in the last 373 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: two minutes, but it's infuriating to stop the game after 374 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: every single clutch play, Like maybe the only one that 375 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: didn't get stopped for a review was when Paul George 376 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: took it to the hole and made a layup, because 377 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 4: that one was kind of in the flow of the game, 378 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: but it felt like every other play was a stop 379 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: for something else. So they got to speed it up 380 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: and they got to just make it happen less often. 381 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: And I think that the league will do that because 382 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: obviously they want basketball to remain one of the fastest of. 383 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 5: The four major sports. 384 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: And it's boring for people who don't care to be like, 385 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, they're going to the replay again. 386 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 5: But I don't know. 387 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 4: I still think that the basketball overcomes it. Like I 388 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: still was hyped after last night, and I think even 389 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: if you're not a total sicko watching that game seeing 390 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: that alley oop, you're still loving it. But of course 391 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: they had to go to the replay to figure out, Wow, 392 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: look at that only too point two seconds to throw 393 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: that oop, So try it on your side, Clippers. 394 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say shout out to Jeff Van Gunny for 395 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: being all over knowing the rule they're on the broadcast 396 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: because the Clippers were confused. You know, you see you 397 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: saw Rondo going that's basketball. That's an interference. You can't 398 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: be over the rim like that, like, well, yeah, actually 399 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: he can and the Sons did it in twenty seventeen 400 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: with a Chandler and g Treano somehow figured out this 401 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: rule that it's it's a dumb absolutely can't do that. 402 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 6: What's that it's a dumb rule because you can't score 403 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 6: a basket. Why can you offensively goaltender basket to count? 404 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 6: That doesn't seem to make sense at all. 405 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: Well, I think they should just get rid of it completely, 406 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: if you're if you ask me, the whole interference there 407 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: being over the rim and stuff like that, like they 408 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: don't have in feb and stuff like that. 409 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 6: But that I don't think you can do that in 410 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 6: feb I think it's only when it hits the rim 411 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: then you can put it down. 412 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: I believe m that's true. 413 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: That's that's true. 414 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 6: Well, no, I'm not one hundred percent sure, because again 415 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: last night, I thought that was offensive interference because it's like, well, 416 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 6: it's so it's a violation if you score the basket, 417 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 6: but it's not a violation if you do something would 418 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 6: always be a violation during live play. 419 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 420 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 6: I mean Jake Crowder, what I mean, he had no 421 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 6: room to get that wrong. And he made it that 422 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 6: just incredibly perfect time pass hit that and. 423 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: That reacted like he could do it ninety nine times 424 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: out of one hundred, if not one hundred one hundreds. 425 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 6: Like, yeah, well he's the quarterback, isn't he's a high 426 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 6: school quarterback? I think remember he hit a full quarter 427 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 6: in fact, wasn't that him who did it? And that 428 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 6: didn't count because he was out of bounds. When when 429 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 6: he threw that, I think it banked it in. I 430 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 6: believe that was it. I have to go and check that, 431 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 6: but I think that was it because I remember how 432 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 6: easily he threw it. And that's when I think I 433 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 6: think Tri said I used to be a quarterback, non sense? Yeah, 434 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: got a cannon on him. 435 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: The boy. 436 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't seen his highlight taste, but I'm guessing 437 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: Jake Crowder was just dominating all over the field. 438 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: And high school football. 439 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: Like maybe he's throwing some deep bombs, but I can 440 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: imagine he's going for two thousand yards in a season. 441 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's a Russian, no doubt. 442 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: Dan Devine wrote about last night's game, the Clippers are 443 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: going to kick themselves here for dropping this one task 444 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: in which they did limit Booker, like you said, outside 445 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: of his Shenanigans, Beverly, you know, doing a great job. 446 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: They threw doubles at him at the right time, and 447 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: the outscored Phoenix thirty nine to eighteen from three point 448 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: range and he still kN game two. But are you 449 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: giving up on the Clips? This is now the third 450 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: time they're down two in a series here, But is 451 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: this one different to you or you like, you know what, 452 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: they figured some things out. Tyler's got creative. They're in 453 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: both of these games. 454 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 6: You know. 455 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: There's no Kawhi now, no Chris Paul of course with sons, 456 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 3: and he's rumored to be coming back here for game three, 457 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: so that's maybe trouble for them. But what do you think, like, 458 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: are you ready to bury the Clippers or are they 459 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: still in this because they haven't even lost a home 460 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: game yet. 461 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: The Clippers deserve all the respect as much as most 462 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: people hate them, and Patrick Beverley earned them some more 463 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: haters last night. The fact that they didn't go double 464 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: digits in this game in Phoenix while the crowd was rocking. Yeah, 465 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: they deserve all the respect. Of course, this is a killer. 466 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: And the fact that the Phoenix, you know, continues to 467 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: win now before Kawhi Leonard comes back. I mean, they're 468 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna get Chris Paul back before Kawhi Leonard comes back, 469 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: So they got to get all these wins in now. 470 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I think it's it's yeah, the way the Phoenix Sons 471 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: are playing, you know, they're playing better than the Dallas 472 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Mavericks or the Utah Jazz, and that's why they're in 473 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: the conference finals. That's a pretty dumb thing to say, 474 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: but that's just that's. The way they're playing is so 475 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: phenomenally well. I think, yeah, this is going to be 476 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: one that the Clippers look back and say, yeah, we 477 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: should have stole that one in Phoenix. Of course, this 478 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: one's going to hurt a little bit more than going 479 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: down two the first two times. You know, plus they're 480 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: playing every second night and all that, and it's just 481 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: hard to come back over and over and over again. 482 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: They're the first team to come back from two twice, 483 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: So can they do it a third time? It's obviously possible. 484 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I think Tyler is pushing all the right buttons. He's 485 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: so I'm not questioning that. You know. Inserting Patrick Beverley 486 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: was huge. I thought Devin Booker scoring forty in the 487 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: first game. He was just going to continue to roll 488 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: into game two. I thought Patrick Beverley was too small, 489 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: but he did a great job getting under Booker's skin. 490 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: And I think he's still under Booker's skin. I mean, 491 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Booker played it extremely well, put his nose on the 492 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: line on that setting that pick for sure. But you 493 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: know he's got to overcome that in game three. Zoobots 494 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: starting in game two almost worked out. I'm not questioning 495 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: the Clippers anymore, but you know, PG, he's got to 496 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: be he's got to be a little hurt, a little 497 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: hurt in the heart after that one, No doubt he's 498 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough to come back from. 499 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: The Sun's really continued just to get contributions from from everyone, 500 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: it feels like, and it changes maybe from night to night. 501 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: They went nine straight playoff games, which is amazing. But 502 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: last nightly it was you know, it wasn't Bridges right, 503 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: who was struggling with his shot. It wasn't like Crowder 504 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: who was lightening up from three. It was Cam Johnson 505 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: who comes off the bench and gives him like huge 506 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: eleven points, great play, didn't miss a shot. You know, 507 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: it was Sorrich in moments where like you know, pick 508 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: and popping Cousins a little bit there because he's too slow. 509 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: And then sometimes when man got on him, he's like, well, 510 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: I'll just go down under the rim and bully him. 511 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 3: He contributed Campaign, like we said, I mean, this is 512 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: just unreal. This guy, this guy at one point was 513 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: considered the worst player in the league. It's not even 514 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: an exaggeration. There was a stretch where. 515 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: Like Raptors and Bulls both cut him. I know, honestly, 516 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: he's he sucked. 517 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: He's sucked. And now the guy's twenty nine points in 518 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: a playoff game, like a huge playoff game, nine assist, 519 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: not a turnover. Basically, he was like Chris Paul, which 520 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: is unreal. So they just keep getting all these guys. 521 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: It's amazing what they just look like, such an awesome team. 522 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: And then you've got the stars in Booker and then 523 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: Chris Paul coming back and eaton. Actually, who's been the 524 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: second best, well third best player in this series so far, probably. 525 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: Pawla you get. He tweeted. I can't explain this, but 526 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 6: Campaign plays like an elastic rubber band. Someone is flinging 527 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 6: around the court and I thought that was right because 528 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 6: he is a wiry little guy. He's got a bit 529 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 6: of an awkward shot. He doesn't have the greatest mechanics 530 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 6: in the world. But his confidence level right now is 531 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 6: as high as it's ever been. And I think he 532 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 6: did play with Monty Williams in Okay see as Monty 533 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 6: was an assistant coach there, and when Monty called him 534 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 6: up last season and said, well, you know, you want 535 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 6: to come and try out in the bubble, he was 536 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: like absolutely, And so that has kind of fostered that 537 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 6: relationship to the point where now you know, they're not 538 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: looking at campaign has found money. Whatever he gives them, 539 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 6: it's like he's actually reducing for them. And especially again 540 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 6: like with Chris Paul, I think he's likely to come 541 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 6: back for Game three. That's great. They've been able to 542 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 6: get these two games without having Chris Paul there. And 543 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 6: now Devin Booker of course had to miss significant, you know, 544 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 6: a part of the game last night. We're dealing with 545 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 6: the nose injury, and the Sons didn't just completely fall apart. Now, 546 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: I mean, that's a great sign here for Monty Williams 547 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 6: that everyone out there feels that it's not just Devin 548 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 6: Book or it's not just Chris Paul or Aton who's 549 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 6: carrying this team. Everyone contributes and some days it is 550 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 6: Michale Bridges, some days it's Crowder and last night, yeah, 551 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 6: Can Johnson five for five from the field. I mean 552 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 6: that is found money. I think when he comes out 553 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 6: there and does it. 554 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: So like Tory Craig had a game earlier in the postseason, rare, 555 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: he had a big moment or a big like, ha. 556 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so And that's just a sign of a good, 557 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 6: well balanced team that they understand that, Like you might 558 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 6: not get all the minutes one night and all the shots, 559 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: but when you are called upon, if you're ready to go, 560 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 6: you're going to go out there and be expected to contribute. 561 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 6: So everything is really in a good spot right now 562 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 6: for the Suns, because again, Chris Paul is not coming 563 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 6: back from an injury, so he just got a little 564 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 6: bit of extra rest or a guy at his age. 565 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: I think it's a blessing in disguise in some ways. 566 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 6: He goes to La likely fresh and ready to go. 567 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 6: Still don't know about Kawhi Leonard, but I think it's 568 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 6: reasonable to assume he won't be playing at all. In 569 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 6: this series. So the Suns, I mean, they are on 570 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 6: the brink of returning to the finals, which is an 571 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 6: incredible turnaround for a team that two seasons ago had 572 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 6: the second worst league in the record in the league, 573 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 6: which is incredible to think about. 574 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: Who's the last team to go to the finals without 575 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: making the playoffs the year? 576 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 6: I think the Celtics. I think it's the I believe so. 577 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so all the way back then, Yeah, we could 578 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: have two teams right in the Hawks off the uposite 579 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: here in the Bucks, they could do it Hawks undersigns possibly, 580 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: But Trey with this one, are you are you burying 581 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: the Clippers or this is still a series? In your 582 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: main I. 583 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: Think it's still a series. 584 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: I think the Clippers will certainly do well as the 585 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: series shifts to LA, but they honestly should be kicking 586 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: themselves for not winning one of these two games. Game one, 587 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: they made twenty three pointers. If you make twenty three 588 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: pointers in a game, that's winnable. Obviously, last night came 589 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: down to free throws and a one point loss. That's like, 590 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: either one of those you gotta steal. The Clipper's got 591 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: to get a win in Phoenix at some point, and 592 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: it's like you had a one point game, that's a 593 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 4: toss up, you had a twenty three point game. Those 594 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: are the ones you're supposed to win, especially when you're 595 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: a team built around three point shooting. But they've been 596 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: resilient all year long. I would say the only button 597 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: that Tylu didn't push exactly right last night was bringing 598 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: in DeMarcus Cousins to guard the inbounder. 599 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Why. 600 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I get it, I get it that 601 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: he's tall, but like he was kind of standing to 602 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: the left of Jay Crowder, giving him a perfect lane 603 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: to the hoop. 604 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: I thought that was a little bit weird. 605 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: Bringing in a cold goalie, as Gordon Bombay did once 606 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 4: upon a time with Julie the Cat Gaffney didn't work 607 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: out quite as well for the Clippers as it did 608 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: for Team USA. But I do think that the Clips 609 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: are going to be better once they get back to LA. 610 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 5: They've been great so far. 611 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 4: It's impossible to count them out when they're down oh 612 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 4: two at this point, but the Sons are rolling and 613 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: it looks like they're going to get better unless they 614 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 4: want to Reggie Miller this and keep Chris Paul out 615 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: until they actually lose a game, just keep him on FaceTime, No. 616 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 5: Keep him. 617 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: I love the FaceTime Chris Paul moments. These are great. 618 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: The celebration. DeAndre Ayton was awesome in his postgame interview too. 619 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: That guy, that guy, he just makes you smile looking 620 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: at him. I just love his face and I love 621 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: his like attitude, and you know, he's very easy to 622 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: root for. And he had a monster game. I don't 623 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: want to like, maybe we glossed over it a little 624 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: bit as we're talking about the oop, the valley oop. 625 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: Shout out to Matt Winer with that call on Twitter. 626 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: But he was wicked in the first half too. Again, 627 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: Eaton keeps setting the tone in so many of these 628 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: postseason games. What did he finish overall? Like twelve to fifteen? 629 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: Playing his ass off defensively too. He's gotten better and 630 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: better in this league, you know, being still super young, 631 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: he was. 632 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: He was great. 633 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: Ties. No, he was absolutely funble. They need him on 634 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: both ends. He was spectacular. I want to just jump 635 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: in with one thing. Yeah, I was wondering with DeMarcus 636 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: Cousins guarding the inbounder, just who else would you have? 637 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: I thought, maybe it's just somebody a little bit more bouncy. 638 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Maybe this is where they miss Serge Ibaka for this 639 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: one play bring him in to block that inbounder. But 640 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: it is interesting bring in a tall guy. That makes sense, right, 641 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: But then I want to complain about one thing. So 642 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: those five guys that were on the floor for the 643 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: DeAndre eight and Doug had to be on for the 644 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: next play, and so the score had no idea who was. 645 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: They basically had to go back and check the tape 646 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: and we had to wait there to see it forever. 647 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: It did take forever. I mean, that's that's something that 648 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: any scorekeeper should just have. It should just be a 649 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: part of their job, right, Like the five guys on 650 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: the floor, Like, shouldn't. 651 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: That be in the comp like, or five guys on 652 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: the floor just just press like the fifteen second rewind 653 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: button on your DVR. 654 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: And see who's on the floor and be like, okay, 655 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: get out here. I mean that I thought. 656 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: That's kind of what they did, right, They like put 657 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: off a shot of the Jade crowder throwing and I'm 658 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: there's not a better way to do that. You just 659 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: got to go see j Zero on this thing and 660 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: check what you posted last Very weird, but people are. 661 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: Calling us out here, guys. 662 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: Literally last year in the finals, both teams went from 663 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: out of the playoffs too in the finals, the Lakers 664 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: and the Heat. 665 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the Lakers. 666 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, good call called Leo. 667 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys, because as a basketball nerd, 668 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm obviously loving Cam Johnson come in and Luke Kennard 669 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: come in and not Misshots. I'm loving that. But I 670 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: hear from some casual fans that the the absence of 671 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and Chris Paul's kind of taking some shine 672 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: off this series. Am I just a basketball geek and 673 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm just loving it? Or is there? Is there a 674 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: little bit of shine taking off of it? And I'm 675 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: just enjoying the fundamentals. I'm just enjoying every guy being 676 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: out there to contribute. 677 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: I guess you could argue it would somehow be even 678 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: better if both those guys were playing. These last two 679 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: games have been unreal though, I mean just the terms 680 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: of like lead changes and how close it's been down 681 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: the stretch and all these crazy what if plays. But 682 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: I guess I understand that. But who cares ultimately if 683 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: it's an entertaining game despite all the instant replay reviews 684 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: last year. That's my opinion. Lee, What do you think? 685 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, obviously you'd love to see them out there, 686 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 6: but they're not. So you just have to dance with 687 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 6: the one that brought you, you know, and just say, all right, 688 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 6: let's enjoy the game. And it was a great game. 689 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 6: We've seen still seeing star players. I mean, Paul George 690 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: and Devin Book. I know Devin didn't shoot all that 691 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 6: well last night compared to Game one, but there's still 692 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 6: enough star power for us. Who you know, if you 693 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: are occasionally like man, I love Chris Paul, I love 694 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 6: Kawhi Lenon, I'm not watching If they're not, okay, fine, 695 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: but we're still watching. We're still loving it. It's still great. 696 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think though the Sun should be 697 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: allowed to bring Chris Paul back at this point until 698 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: Kawai can come back. That only seems fair. Okay, let's 699 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: make that a role. GK, what do you think of 700 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: Tasta start there? 701 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: I feel unqualified to answer this question because I'm going 702 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: to be watching regardless that. Honestly, if it's campaign and 703 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: Frank Kaminski running a pick and roll every single time time, 704 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: down the court. I'm probably loving it even more, but 705 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: I don't know people are watching. 706 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: Ratings are up. 707 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: Maybe that's just because we're seeing you know, fans and 708 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 4: stands and this is a standard playoffs compared to the 709 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: bubble last year. But I mean, the hype would be 710 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 4: bigger if we had a finals MVP and a guy 711 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: in Chris Paul who's going trying to win his first title. 712 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 4: Obviously that would be a bigger story. But you know, 713 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: this is where stars are made, are in the playoffs. 714 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: Like DeAndre Ayton. I had him as most improved player 715 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 4: this year and then was completely disappointed because all he 716 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: was doing was playing defense. As it turns out, he 717 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: was just saving it in the playoffs. He's going to 718 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: keep playing the defense, but it's figured out a way 719 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: to become a fluid offensive player and honestly just dominate 720 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 4: the paint like he's holding it down inside and he's 721 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: the only guy on either team that really cares about 722 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 4: being inside. It's been huge, so it's like, yeah, you know, 723 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: it was exciting. I'm sure for people when DeAndre Ayton 724 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: was drafted number one back then could have easily fallen 725 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: out of their minds. And now here he is winning 726 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: a game in the playoffs. That's how you become a 727 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: star in the future. Not everybody's a star right away. 728 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. Yeah, even if some fans weren't pumped 729 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Game one, you know, Chris Paul's sideline because of a 730 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: protocol Kawhi Leonard is that you get reeled in because 731 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: this basketball is just so fricking it And if you 732 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: want to watch some men look at a monitor, you 733 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: gotta be excited about that too. Yeah, I'm kidding, but 734 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: that like that, I mean, the basketball has to reel you, 735 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: and it is just so fricking good. And as I 736 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: said at the beginning, neither team had a double digit 737 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: lead in this game, and for me, that's choice. Yeah. Yeah, 738 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: and it was. There was barely one in Game one. 739 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: If yeah, I remember exactly. I mean maybe a team 740 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: got up to ten. Maybe I don't. I don't even 741 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: know if that's the case. I mean that was. It's 742 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: just been so good. Yeah, the Clippers not falling apart. 743 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: It feels on Clipper like but man, they just this 744 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: is obviously. 745 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: They hit like I think Van Gundy said it on 746 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: the broadcast, they had like an answer three every time. 747 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: It felt like the Suns were going to pull away 748 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: like it was a Canard three, it was a Reggie 749 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: Jackson three. It was yeah, more is it when it 750 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: was like whoa? They always were just sticking around. I 751 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: mean even this game, I couldn't believe the Clippers were up. 752 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: At one point. 753 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I feel like the 754 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: Sons are completely outplaying them in this and somehow, you know, 755 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: Lac had the lead, which is just means for a 756 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: great finish. 757 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: It feels like the crowd is going to sort of 758 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 6: somehow be on top of the court though too as well, 759 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 6: like they are just up and going crazy. 760 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 3: Mike Breen was standing on the side. I don't remember 761 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: seeing Breen do it. Reggie does it a lot because 762 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: you get people standing court side so it's tough to see. 763 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: But you could see Mike Breen like he was perched 764 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: up and he was he was standing to see the action. 765 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, we wanted to call the game standing up there 766 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 6: like that. Wouldn't that be awesome? And just really I'm. 767 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: Bag let him roam the court like an and one commentator. 768 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 6: They're doing that with the cameras right now, why not 769 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 6: do it with my That's awesome. 770 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: Idea. Just back to Booker's nose. I've told my story 771 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: before where I busted open my nose on a trampoline 772 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: at a at a high school party, trying to be 773 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: a cool guy doing a double flip and just smoked 774 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: my nose off the metal bar on the trampoline in 775 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 3: the backyard and blood went all over the trampoline. But 776 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: have any of you guys busting your snuzz either broke 777 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: it or it went crooked, or just had a super 778 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: bloody nose, no. 779 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 6: Le, super bloody. Yeah, I've had had a million of 780 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 6: those playing basketball, but luckily, yeah, I've never had a 781 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 6: broken one. 782 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, okay. 783 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 4: I've never had a bloody nose in my life. Really, 784 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: I got the perfect nose. 785 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: You sound like you don't have a big nose like 786 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: a lot of us here on the show. Like yeah, 787 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 3: just like. 788 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: Small feet, small nose out of the way, that's taller 789 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: than most of the people when you're playing in a 790 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 4: pickup game. So I'm avoiding the album. True, but I've 791 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: never even gotten one, you know, like going deep for 792 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: a book or something like that. I know they're super common. 793 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 4: I've done a lot of dumb stuff you would think 794 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: i'd take a shot to the face. Certainly that's happened, 795 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 4: But no blood. 796 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 6: Baby, you you grew up in Chicago, like none of 797 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 6: those early morning pick up runs where it's like minus 798 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 6: forty five degrees and the ball just like ricochets into 799 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 6: your face. That never even gave you. 800 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 5: A blood notes, never had a blood nose. 801 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: Wow, it's incredible. I mean I think he has helped 802 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: by it a little tolerant, but I mean, you know, 803 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 3: a ricochet here or there. Yeah, you know that schna 804 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: has ever been busted open basically maybe it was. 805 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: It's been exploded once. No, by a fist, by a 806 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: man's fist made it explode. 807 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like a good story. 808 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's not a great story. I got I 809 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: got blasted in the nose. 810 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 5: It was. 811 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: It was a one way fight really if you remember, 812 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: yeah kind of yeah, I mean I knew, yeah it was. 813 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: There was a fight happening. If it was a third 814 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: year of college, I think, uh yeah. My nose was 815 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: basically below my eye. It went way over. But I 816 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: had a great, great guy in the er, great doctor 817 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: in the er, take his two thumbs and just push 818 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: it back. I barely felt it I barely felt it, 819 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: to be honest, I had alcohol flowing through the system, 820 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: so I barely felt it. But he just cranked it back. 821 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was bad. It was. It 822 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: was ugly, huge black eyes. I think JD. We were 823 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: in the same class in college. I don't know if 824 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: you remember, of course I remember. I'm still furious about that. Yeah, 825 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: it was. It was a good punch. I mean, Landed 826 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: landed really well. Speaking speaking about speaking of quarterbacks, he 827 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: was the high school quarterback. He was looking for a fight, 828 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: and that man Landed found his mark right between the eyes. 829 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: There on the call, standing in the corner by the jukebox. 830 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: Tessa, I feel like it happened in Woodbridge? 831 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 832 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: Were you in Woodbridge? Okay? 833 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: Downtown Toronto? 834 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: No, in the sogh he's in the parking lot in 835 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: the sog played him. No at a pool at a 836 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: pool hall. Okay, that was good, great punch. I mean 837 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: it was. It was bad. It wasn't fun. Okay, I'll 838 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: tell I'll tell, I'll tell ye. 839 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: Like, were you talking ship to him or. 840 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: Like big Steve, Big Steve Bake, Steve was talking ship 841 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: like an idiot. It was a bunch of guys, A 842 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: bunch of guys, A bunch of guys wanted to start 843 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: a fight, and Bake Steve got into it, I you know, 844 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: got in there to break it up, and some guy 845 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: ran out of the back of his car just turned 846 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: me around, just hand on the shoulder, turned me around 847 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: and just jammed I was gone, Yeah, well I went. 848 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: I blocked out for a second because I went from 849 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: I went from the because it was in a it 850 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: was a parking lot and there's nobody around. It's like 851 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: after closing time. So I went from the back of 852 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: the car where he jammed me to the front of 853 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: the car, and I don't remember a thing, like they 854 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: were they were just doing some kick and there's people screaming. 855 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: There was Yeah, so I woke up. I actually I 856 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: came back to consciousness when the car started and I 857 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: and the car was like the lights came on in 858 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: the car and I was like in front of the car. 859 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: But they drove off and there was a court situation 860 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: and all that. 861 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't really know the details of this story. Yeah. 862 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, my buddy of Mien had a nice and ugly 863 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: ass tooth. I saw him in the emergency room. He 864 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 1: had a broken tooth guys. 865 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: How many guys were there? These guys just like m 866 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: M A fighters and this it. 867 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Was a three on three on three but one one 868 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: team didn't really come to play. 869 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: Amazing We got this story. 870 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean we could. We could go on and on, 871 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: but it's in the it's in the police report. I 872 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: think those are public records. 873 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: We get that. 874 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 7: JD. 875 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: Can you find that. We can post that later. 876 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Pill He'll find it for us. 877 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome game, despite yeah, all the delays at the end, 878 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: I would just like, if I'm being honest, let's just 879 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 3: get rid of replay for one year. Just try go 880 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 3: back to like, no replay soon happens. Maybe maybe the opposite. 881 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 3: Maybe we're here every second day ago. Oh my god, 882 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: can you believe they blew that one after we looked 883 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: at it? But I guess if you get rid of replay, 884 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 3: like for the officials, we almost have to get rid 885 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,959 Speaker 3: of replay for the broadcast, just so we can never 886 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 3: see it in super slow mo with the fandom cam, 887 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: so we can never then argue about like, oh, who 888 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 3: was it out on? 889 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 890 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: I'd like, I'd like to try it. Just switch it 891 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 3: up there. 892 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 5: The sure, sure people would love it. 893 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's great ideally, Oh man, but you get to 894 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 3: pick who like you know, Babe Ben Simmons, you got 895 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: to shoot. 896 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 6: And one last not so all right, Beverly, you have 897 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 6: to shoot a three for it. If you get it 898 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 6: in the show Bowl. If you miss it, the Suns bold. 899 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, that's what we do. Like obviously, playing pickup it 900 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 3: in the NBA would be incredible. Oh yeah, that's a 901 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: fun idea. Yeah, okay, we got to move on. We 902 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: got a lot more to talk about. Yeah, back with 903 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: no Dunk's big numbers here in the stream team today. 904 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 3: People were fired up about that game last night. But 905 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: let's get to the other conference finals, which tips off tonight. 906 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: The Hawks battle the Bucks in Game one, each team 907 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: coming into the series off a game seven road victory 908 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: in the previous round. Hawks, of course, went into Philly 909 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: took down the seventy six ers, while the Bucks went 910 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 3: to Brooklyn and pulled out that overtime win over Katie 911 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: and the Nets. So let's break it down keys to 912 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: the series, and then we'll get to predictions. Trey get 913 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: us started, Hawks, Bucks? What are you watching? 914 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 4: I think John Collins has been the unsung hero of 915 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 4: the Hawks playoff run. Here had a great quote to 916 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: Chris Kirshner at The Athletic. John Collins said, these are 917 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 4: meaningful moments. 918 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 5: Right now. I'm proving I can win here. Everything I'm doing. 919 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 4: On the court is just as valuable as showing I 920 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 4: can get twenty or twenty five points per game. And 921 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 4: I gotta agree with them. John Collins was a twenty 922 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 4: and ten guy. We had him as a potential first 923 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 4: time All Star I think before last season. 924 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 5: Obviously that didn't happen. 925 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 4: There was a little bit of drama this season with 926 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 4: like getting on the same page with Trey Young. But 927 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, John Collins has remade himself just basically 928 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: as a defensive guys, as a pests to the opponents. 929 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 4: His defense on Julius Randall I thought was huge in 930 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: that series. His defense on Tobias Harris was huge against 931 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: the Sixers. But now John Collins is probably gonna be 932 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 4: guarding Jannis. I would have to imagine with Clint Capella 933 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 4: sticking Brook Lopez. This is going to sound ridiculous, but 934 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 4: I mean it as a positive. I think John Collins 935 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 4: can hold Janis on to Tacumpo to thirty two and thirteen, 936 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 4: and that would be huge. Basically, just battle him, make 937 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 4: it hard, and put Giannis on the line when necessary. 938 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 4: That's basically what Blake Griffin did. He played with a 939 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 4: lot of effort on a lot of physicality. Those are 940 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 4: both things that Collins has done really well in the 941 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 4: playoffs so far. I mean, you're not gonna slow down Yanis. 942 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 4: He's gonna produce. But if Collins is good enough against 943 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 4: Jannis that the Hawks don't have to double all the 944 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 4: time and they're not giving up easy three pointers something 945 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 4: that could be a major disadvantage. Going against Giannis can 946 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 4: just be a small inconvenience if you will, If you're 947 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 4: able to guard him almost straight up, that would be 948 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 4: huge for the Hawks to not have to devote other 949 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: resources to try and slow down Giannis inside. 950 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good call. He's been great John Collins 951 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: for sure. I feel like a lot of the keys 952 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 3: to the series here correct me if I'm wrong, are 953 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 3: going to be maybe from the Hawks side of things, 954 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: being the underdog, like what has to happen for them 955 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 3: to pull off maybe another upsoe here over the Bucks 956 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: who are the heavy favorite. So Lee, what's your key 957 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: to the series or an X factor or where are 958 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 3: you going? 959 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 6: Well, I'm going with Bogdan Bogdanovic because he's the latest 960 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 6: update on him. He's a game time decision for tonight. 961 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 6: So I do expect him to play because he's kind 962 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 6: of been in that same boat now for the last 963 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 6: three or four games as he was against the Sixers 964 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 6: in that second round. And I think you only have 965 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 6: to look at the last three games to see that 966 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 6: he clearly was effected. He only went made one of 967 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 6: his last sixteen to three point attempts, and he just 968 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 6: wasn't moving out there. He basically sat on the bench. 969 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 6: I think of the second half of Game seven, he's 970 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 6: not shooting the ball well, and that's a clear sign 971 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 6: when you don't have your legs underneath you that there's 972 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 6: something wrong. So hopefully he's had a little bit of 973 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 6: extra time here to rest because he's so important to 974 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 6: them as another guy who try and shoot the ball 975 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 6: to to hit those threes. They need him firing threes. 976 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 6: He was great against the Knicks, he was great early 977 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 6: against the Sixers, and they need him. And also defensively, 978 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 6: he's a bigger guy than you think he's actually he's 979 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 6: about six to five. He sort of feels like he's 980 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 6: a little bit smaller than that, but he's he's just 981 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 6: really important, I think, to what the what the Hawks 982 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 6: have to do. And if he can't go, then they're 983 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 6: already down DeAndre Hunter, you know, they're already down Cam Reddich, 984 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 6: who hasn't even been on the team at all in 985 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 6: the playoffs. So they've tried Kevin where in the starting lineup, 986 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 6: might have to go Solomon Hill back into the starting 987 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 6: the starting lineup, which is. 988 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 3: Not just because of size reasons, you think, I think. 989 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 6: I think, I don't think he's going to go with 990 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 6: Gallinari Nate McMillan to start him. So I'm guessing that's 991 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 6: who they would go to if Bogdanovitch can't go. But 992 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 6: if he's back and he's fresh and he's healthy, then 993 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 6: that's a huge thing for the Hawks because he can 994 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 6: he can handle the rock a bit. But also you know, 995 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 6: when he gets going, he's a very very important score 996 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 6: of them. So hopefully he's feeling good and hopefully he's 997 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 6: feeling better and he's good to go tonight. 998 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a fun little you know, narrative twist 999 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 3: there too. They yeah, yeah, been signed by the Bucks 1000 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 3: or it looked like he was going there and then 1001 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 3: the tampering and it cost him a pick and all 1002 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 3: that and finds his way to Atlanta. So that would 1003 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: be you know, if the Hawks were to pull this 1004 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 3: off and he played well, insult to injury to Milwaukee, 1005 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: if they somehow got put out by the guy that 1006 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: they actually had on their team in Bogdanovic. What about 1007 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 3: you task, what's the key to the series? 1008 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: Well, I think the coaching is monstrous, mainly from Nate 1009 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: McMillan's signed because you know, the playoffs are all about matchups, baby, 1010 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: but Nate McMillan's got to push so many of the 1011 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: right buttons because they are the underdog and they have 1012 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: to find a way to get the upper hand. This 1013 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: is going to be the series they probably missed DeAndre Hunter. 1014 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 1: Cam Raddish has been upgraded to questionable. Maybe he gets inserted, 1015 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: but that's sort of where I'm worried that that small 1016 00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: forward spot because you know PJ Tucker pat content is 1017 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: where Trey Young is gonna hide. He's gonna They're gonna 1018 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: start PJ Tucker or maybe in Pacconta Treyng's gonna hide there. 1019 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: But then Chris Middleton is a big problem for the Hawks. 1020 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: Do they put Kevin Herder on him? He could he 1021 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: could really hurt him. Or do you bring back Solomon 1022 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: Hill for Kevin Herder? I'm not sure. Do you put 1023 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: bog Don Bogdanovich on him? But then who takes true? 1024 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's there's some perimeter problems there. What happens 1025 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: to Clint Capella if he gets into foul trouble guarding Janis? 1026 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do? Or John Collins the 1027 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: same thing? Anyaka and Congou gonna be out there? Is 1028 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: he gonna play minutes? Is he gonna be able to 1029 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: stop Yanis? I think they just don't have really good matchups. 1030 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: I think from the other side for but his main 1031 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: question is do I start Tucker? He doesn't really have 1032 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: anyone to guard. I think that the Hawks are just 1033 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: so undermanned in this series. The Bucks just have so 1034 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: many of the advantages, and Nate was a little slow 1035 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 1: last series to implement those changes. He waited until Game 1036 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: four to start Kevin Herder and and they somehow made that. Obviously, 1037 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: it was successful after a couple of huge comebacks, in 1038 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: that series. But I think he's got to be on 1039 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: top of it from the beginning because I get that. 1040 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, the Bucks have quote unquote more pressure on 1041 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: them because they are now the favorites in this series, 1042 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: but they got to feel good as a number three series, 1043 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: a number three seed to have home court advantage in 1044 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals. It just doesn't happen very often, 1045 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: and I think that the Hawks are sort of just 1046 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball to start this series. 1047 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 3: The Hawks are going to hope that Holiday shoots as 1048 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 3: poorly as he did against the Nets. That would really 1049 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 3: help their chances. He shot thirty six percent from the 1050 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 3: floor in twenty six percent from three Holiday. Will he 1051 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 3: be that bad again in this series. I sort of 1052 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 3: doubt it. And he's my key just what he's going 1053 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 3: to do defensively on Trey Young. The one time they 1054 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 3: played this season, Trey I'm shot three to seventeen in 1055 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 3: his one game. It was his second word shooting performance 1056 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: of the year. He had six turnovers two in that game, 1057 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 3: and Drew Holiday was the primary defender. He's awesome. He's 1058 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 3: an all defense. It's a player, and I think Trey 1059 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: Young shot oh of eight. I saw Schumann break down 1060 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 3: that matchup with no free throw attempts. So I mean, look, 1061 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: the Hawks are not going to win these games if 1062 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 3: Drew Holiday keeps Trey Young to three or seventeen shooting 1063 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: a row of eight when he's on them, so that's 1064 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 3: big and then easy buckets too. Here Bucks score a 1065 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 3: lot in transition. A lot of that comes by way 1066 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: of turnovers. But the Hawks are good at, you know, 1067 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: taking care of the basketball for the most part, so 1068 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 3: which one gives there. They're a huge underdog, but they're 1069 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: fun to roof for here in Atlanta, and I think 1070 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of people actually like, oh, 1071 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: this would be awesome if the Hawks did somehow get 1072 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 3: to the finals. So they're gonna have their fans support 1073 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 3: here from the casuals and the die hards like the 1074 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 3: Hawk bros alike. Let's get to predictions, though, Trey, who 1075 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 3: do you like in this How many games. 1076 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 4: The Bucks should be favored? The Bucks should win this series, 1077 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 4: But I'm taking the Hawks in seven. Wow, it's probably 1078 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 4: not gonna pay off skeets. If I'm being completely honest, 1079 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 4: as we said heading into Nets versus Bucks, this could 1080 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 4: easily be the NBA Finals here it end up going 1081 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 4: seven classic games, and to be honest, the Buck's handled 1082 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 4: and that's pretty well as soon as Kyrie Irving went down. Obviously, 1083 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 4: the Hawks are under manned, but they've already won five 1084 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 4: road games in this playoffs, two in both series, so 1085 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: I think they can steal one in Milwaukee, And if 1086 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 4: they steal one in the first couple of games, either 1087 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 4: tonight or in Game two, the series has changed immediately 1088 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 4: and there's definitely a lot more pressure on Milwaukee. 1089 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,439 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm rooting for a narrative here. I'm rooting 1090 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 5: for a city here. 1091 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 3: Ten seven Okay Hawks in seven Leale two questions your 1092 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 3: prediction and have you looked at tickets for Game three 1093 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 3: here in Atlanta? 1094 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to say I've probably gone to my 1095 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 6: last Hawks playoff game. I don't imagine them getting any 1096 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 6: cheaper from here on out. But I'm taking the Hawks too. 1097 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 3: Why not? 1098 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 5: Why not? 1099 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 6: Trey Young's been incredible to watch this season, and he 1100 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 6: definitely punches well above his weight out there on the court. 1101 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's Alan Iverson, but he's got the 1102 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 6: vibe that tiny guy out there who you just sort 1103 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 6: of think, like, how does this guy go into the 1104 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 6: paint fearlessly, like that score, he hits the three pointer. 1105 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 6: He's got the sort of like people hate him. He's 1106 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 6: got that like, you know, the villainous quality to him 1107 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 6: as well. I mean, Alan Ives was very popular, but 1108 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 6: he was also like the sort of guy he'd love 1109 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 6: to go on the road and get a big, big win. 1110 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 3: And it's just the smallest guy on the floor with 1111 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 3: the biggest hurrid. It feels exactly and he is not 1112 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 3: afraid of the moment. 1113 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 6: I was really really impressed with his Game seven performance 1114 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 6: because he was shooting so badly, but he didn't stop shooting. 1115 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,439 Speaker 6: He hit that massive three late in the fourth quarter, 1116 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 6: which was just a deep bomb, you know. So he's like, listen, 1117 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 6: we're going to go out emptying the clip. And that's 1118 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 6: what I love about him. So I'm pulling for the Hawks. 1119 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 3: Why not? 1120 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 6: We're down here in Atlanta. I think the Bucks are 1121 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 6: favorites and deserve to be, but I say the Hawks 1122 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 6: can do it. Another close out game on the road. 1123 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 6: Hawks in seven, Hawks in seven. 1124 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 3: Former. 1125 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a big time over and I love it lot. 1126 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: The voice of reason, man, where are you going? 1127 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: Well? The reason why I'm going to pick the Bucks 1128 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: is because I want the Hawks to win. Let me 1129 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: explain the Bucks. Yes, they are absolutely the favorites, and 1130 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: because they were, you know, the underdogs in the Net series. 1131 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: I think if people start picking the Hawks, people start 1132 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 1: getting on them. They can use that as bolton board 1133 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: material and then they can feel like the underdogs again. 1134 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: So I'm taking the Bucks with the hopes that the 1135 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,479 Speaker 1: Hawks win. Yeah, I mean, I do think the Bucks 1136 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: are going to take this series, but I'm obviously cheering 1137 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: for the hometown team. I think. Yeah, as Tray said, 1138 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it really comes down to the first couple 1139 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: of games that it happened in the Philly series. That 1140 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: has to happen, and it could happen. I mean, though 1141 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: the Bucks almost lost Game one of that Miami Heat 1142 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: series where they were clearly the better team. It was 1143 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: super duper close. It came down to a Chris Middleton 1144 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 1: game winner. But I'm not given Milwaukee any more bolton 1145 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: board material here. So I'm taking the Bucks in five. 1146 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: But Hawks and seven. 1147 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 3: An excellent Jennifer Hedger there from you shout out TSN. 1148 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: That's the turning point. Gino Retta, I'll take Bucks in 1149 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: six is where I'm going with this. You're right about 1150 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 3: the Hawks, like, it's not far fetched to see them 1151 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 3: win one of these two games in Milwaukee. They won 1152 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 3: both game once right of their last two series to 1153 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 3: just start it off, and and why not? Is that 1154 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 3: why it could not be possible again with type of 1155 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 3: Tray Young performance. But I do think Brooks deterring maybe 1156 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 3: some of these floaters inside that Trey guys, but he's 1157 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 3: so smart because he doesn't go all the way to 1158 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: the rim, so it's still there has to knock him down. 1159 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 3: It's look, I'm excited. I think this is going to 1160 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: be a great series here still, but I'm gonna take 1161 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 3: Milwaukee because it does feel weird to say, like, oh 1162 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 3: Bucks nuts man, whoever wins that it's probably gonna win 1163 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 3: the title or at least go to the finals, because 1164 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 3: the Suns look like incredible right now, be weird to 1165 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 3: switch that up. So I'll go Milwaukee in six. But 1166 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 3: let's hear from the stream team your predictions, who you're 1167 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 3: cheering for, some X factors, leave them there or leave 1168 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 3: him in the YouTube comments, And will of course be 1169 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: back tomorrow to break down Game one, which is hopefully 1170 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 3: just as entertaining, as at least the first two games 1171 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: in the Western Conference Finals have been all right. Before 1172 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 3: we start wrapping this up, we had other big news 1173 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 3: last night. This feels like it happened like ten days 1174 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 3: ago to me. I don't know why, but the Detroit 1175 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 3: Pistons finally lucked out in the NBA lottery and they 1176 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 3: won the number one pick last night. Their position to 1177 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 3: draft the consensus best prospect, Oklahoma State star Kade Cunningham, 1178 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: or you know, go in a different direction, maybe USC 1179 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: center Evan Mobley's possibility, The Rockets, Calves, Raptors, Magic round 1180 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 3: out the top five. Were showing everybody the lottery results 1181 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 3: here on YouTube, of course, in the stream team first 1182 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: time in franchise history of the Pistons draft pick moved 1183 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 3: up by way the lottery rather than moving down or 1184 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,720 Speaker 3: staying put. So that's great. They got the first pick 1185 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 3: for the first time in nineteen seventy when they took 1186 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame center Bob Lanier. Shout out the big 1187 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 3: Bob Lanier. He has some big shoes in TK. 1188 00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 5: Giant shoes. 1189 00:52:59,280 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 3: Giant. 1190 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 5: That's like one of the two things I know a lot. 1191 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 4: He's a Hall of Famer and his shoes are giant, Yes, yep, 1192 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 4: big Bob Lanier bows Cade Cunningham's feet feet. 1193 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I have to check the combine on that. 1194 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 3: Besides the Pistons, though, The question is who is the 1195 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 3: biggest winner from last night? Uh tass, I'm guessing you 1196 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: would agree with me that it's that it is the 1197 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 3: Raptors because the back half of the draft lottery it 1198 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 3: went shock None of the teams that were slotted from 1199 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 3: like eight through fourteen jumped into the top four selections. 1200 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 3: And then boom, Toronto slotted that seventh. Oh my god, 1201 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 3: their their their little logo is not there in the 1202 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 3: card from Mark Tatum, and they jumped up three spots 1203 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 3: to the fourth overall pick. That's the largest jump than 1204 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 3: any team made in the lottery this year. This is this, 1205 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 3: This is big for RAPS fans, especially in a draft 1206 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 3: where the draft experts say it's a it's a it's 1207 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 3: a top heavy draft, where it's like maybe your top 1208 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: four or five. You're like, wow, you're you're very excited 1209 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 3: about any of the players that you you get at 1210 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 3: that that number there. 1211 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will throw in Houston as a second 1212 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: winner as well. They went they went from possibly having 1213 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: the number eighteen pick to having the number two pick. 1214 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: That's good's that's very very good. But yeah, of course 1215 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: seeing the Raptors up there, even though you know, they 1216 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: finished in the worst spot that they possibly could after 1217 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: jumping to the top four. So the drama of the 1218 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 1: television got me. Had to wait for that commercial break 1219 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: thinking that the Raps are going to be jamming at 1220 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: the top. But then you know, big Ben Wallace just 1221 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: swatted them down to the four spot because he worked 1222 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: good d great defense. But yeah, you know, I wore 1223 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: this championship. But there you go from Stefan vasillv this 1224 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: championship shirt for today because it feels like a bit 1225 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: of a championship. It's a deep draft, I've heard. 1226 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a it's a top heavy. Hold on is 1227 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 3: it deeper as a top heavy which one is it? 1228 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Well, we'll have some draft experts on 1229 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 3: as we get closer and closer to the draft, because 1230 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 3: this is the one, uh one thing we do not 1231 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 3: pretend to know a ton about outside of like watching 1232 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 3: the highlights and the big names and stuff like that. 1233 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, Raps winners rock. It's big winners. You're right, 1234 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 3: and of course the Pistons very happy for their fans. 1235 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 3: Biggest loser, though, TK, who would you go with from 1236 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 3: the draft lottery last night? 1237 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 5: Well, the biggest loser personally for me. 1238 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 4: Doubles lost their pick to the Magic and four of 1239 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 4: the top five picks in this top heavy draft skeets 1240 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 4: are going to the Eastern Conference. Two of those one 1241 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 4: going to the Pistons and one going to the Calves, 1242 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 4: who the Bulls will be playing a lot after missing 1243 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 4: the play in pretty bad beat for Chicago last night, 1244 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 4: But I don't think they're actually the biggest losers. That 1245 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 4: to me's gotta be the Thunder. They had a chance 1246 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 4: at two top five picks heading into the lottery. They 1247 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 4: had a fifty two percent chance that Theirs finishes in 1248 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 4: the top five, plus a forty eight percent chance that 1249 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 4: Houston would drop to number five. If that hits, you 1250 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 4: got two top fives in a loaded draft, including a 1251 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,439 Speaker 4: local number one prospect. Instead, they dropped all the way 1252 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 4: down to number six, and they had previously lost a 1253 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 4: coin toss with the Cleveland Cavaliers, who moved up to 1254 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 4: number one. So bad stuff for the Thunder last night. 1255 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 4: If the Raptors got a gift after a trash season. 1256 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 4: Feels almost the reverse for the Thunder blatantly tanked as 1257 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 4: hard as they possibly could and then had terrible lottery luck. 1258 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 5: You hate to see it. 1259 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they lose. Was this something like final twenty 1260 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 3: one of their last twenty five games when they were 1261 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 3: just sitting every guy imaginable, Oh shay, oh your foots 1262 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 3: are oh dort, what's wrong with you guy? Migraine, don't play. 1263 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 3: Tony Bradley was too good. At one point they were like, no, 1264 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 3: Tony Bradley, you can't play for us anymore. Yeah, the 1265 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: Basketball of God said no, no, no, come on. That's 1266 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 3: a that was a little too blatant for our liking 1267 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 3: and did not reward them. Lee any other winners or 1268 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,439 Speaker 3: losers to add from last night. 1269 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 6: Well only that the Timberwolves also lose their pick that 1270 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 6: goes to the Warriors. If that fell into the top three, 1271 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 6: I think the Wolves would have kept up, but it didn't. 1272 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 6: So that's from the Andrew Weekins trade. So the Warriors 1273 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 6: just steal another little asset out of that deal. And 1274 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 6: that's tough for the timber Wolves because obviously they would 1275 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 6: love to get some more young talent on that team. 1276 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 6: So as it stands right now, I believe the Wolves 1277 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 6: do not have a first round pick in this year's draft, 1278 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 6: which is a little tough of them. 1279 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 3: Will any of these, you know, top let's say ten 1280 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 3: picks be moved in a big deal here As we 1281 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 3: get closer to the actual draft, too, saw a lot 1282 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 3: of Kings fans saying they got to do everything they 1283 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 3: can to try and get Ben Simmons with their pick 1284 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 3: and whatever players it would take to try and entice 1285 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 3: Darryl Morian and the Sixers to make a move there. 1286 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 3: We'll see, We'll see as we get closer and closer. 1287 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 3: Like I said, we'll bring in some draft experts and 1288 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 3: we'll start coming up with all the hypotheticals, all the 1289 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 3: what ifs. 1290 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 4: About you rafters experts, would you trade the number four pick? Theoretically, 1291 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,959 Speaker 4: you're a team that's close and maybe a star would 1292 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 4: help more than a draft pick. 1293 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: That's tough, harpy and a heartbeat for who, though for 1294 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: who that depends. 1295 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 4: Hey, let's say Bradley Beal is the biggest name that's 1296 00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 4: gettable out there. 1297 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: I think, so, you know, you'd have to have some 1298 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: draft knowledge to know that the guy at number four 1299 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: isn't going to be you know, the equivalent of Bradley 1300 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: Beal somewhere down the road, like think that anyways, at 1301 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: least had Jaalen. 1302 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 3: Green is a really good sort of scorer. And they 1303 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 3: think in the half court that the Raps could that's 1304 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 3: the Raps flaw right like half court offense. 1305 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: They need that. 1306 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 3: So if it's Beial, yes, is jail and Green that 1307 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 3: guy right away? 1308 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1309 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what again people say he could be 1310 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 3: it's how waimelines. 1311 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: And then you turn and trade Kyle Lowry for maybe 1312 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: some sort of future prospect as well. Some play both 1313 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: sides perfectly. Do it now? Do it later? Get get 1314 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: a future asset for Kyle Lowry because I think the 1315 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: Thunder have to trade up. I mean, I don't understand 1316 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: why they accumulate all these draft picks to Obviously, it's hurtful. 1317 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: It's hurtful to drop. Is Trey outlined very well, But 1318 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: even from the beginning of the season, you know the 1319 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: fact that the play in tournament worked for this reason. 1320 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: The only team that was tanking from day one was 1321 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: the Thunder. And usually in a season you see like 1322 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: three four or five teams not trying to win, but 1323 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine out of the thirty teams were trying to win, 1324 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,439 Speaker 1: and the thunder go from yet trying to be bad 1325 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: and then Polkashevski's hitting too many freaking shots, AhR playing 1326 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: too well. Yeah, everybody sit and yeah, so it is 1327 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: definitely karma. But at the same time, Presty can't be 1328 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: sitting on these picks thinking I love this number six 1329 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: pick we've got. They've got to try and move up, right, 1330 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: They have to to me. 1331 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll probably give it a go. Final question with 1332 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 3: the draft lottery, we did a happy hour last night, 1333 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 3: so that's really my favorite moment, just hanging with you 1334 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 3: guys going over salmon recipes. This is what I really liked. 1335 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 3: But from the actual draft itself, I'll answer first my 1336 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 3: favorite moment, and I said it when we were live 1337 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 3: doing our shows, like, well, that's a meme. Somebody clipped 1338 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 3: that and post it right away, please. I think ultimately 1339 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 3: the Ringer maybe got to it first. It was Swin 1340 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: Cash and her reaction to the Pelicans not moving up 1341 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 3: in the draft. It's so good. I love it so much. 1342 00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 3: It's a great reaction. You can use that for so 1343 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 3: many things and uh some power. Is that a blazer? 1344 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 3: I guess you could call it just an awesome outfit 1345 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 3: she's wearing. It's a dresser a blazer, I can't. 1346 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Tell, but looks like a blouse with sequence. 1347 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 3: But who knows action lee anything else that, uh that 1348 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 3: you were a fan of. I know we were pumped 1349 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 3: about Ben Wallace just like he looks still awesome. Yeah, 1350 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 3: him getting the number one pick, just outwork in the draft, like. 1351 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 4: He said, Yeah, a lot of great quote he's They 1352 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: asked them, did you bring a good luck charm? He said, no, 1353 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 4: I'm the good luck charm. I figure after all the 1354 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 4: work I put in, nothing but good things can happen. 1355 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: How right? 1356 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 4: How was he right about that hard work pays off 1357 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 4: when it comes to balls just bouncing around in a Yeah, 1358 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 4: I mentioned. 1359 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 6: On the on the Happy Aro I just would have 1360 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 6: liked him in the big white like sweat head band, 1361 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 6: you know, because that's how I sort of remember Ben Wallace. 1362 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 6: But he didn't need it last night. He doesn't need luck. 1363 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 6: He's just going to intimidate those balls. They're not going 1364 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 6: to be They're not going to go to anyone else. 1365 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't we usually get like a Zach Low article 1366 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 3: where he's like in the back room draft lottery is happening. 1367 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 3: It's like, I know Ben Wallace wasn't back there as well, 1368 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 3: but that'd be a funny story if he was. He's 1369 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 3: just staring at that lottery ball machine, like just like 1370 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 3: growling at it, making sure the right ball comes up 1371 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,479 Speaker 3: the right number. Uh tass any anything else that jumped 1372 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 3: out of you. 1373 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the year of the Big Man. You 1374 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 1: had Ben Wallace in a Chema laju one, those two 1375 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: guys battling for the number one and number two picks, 1376 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: sitting there in their chairs, battling in different in different rooms. 1377 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: But I guess, I mean I was not paying attention 1378 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: where we watched basically just Mark Tatum pull out the 1379 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: fourteen cards and I, you know, no disrespect to ESPN's 1380 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: coverage because it's they do what they need to do 1381 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: to make it interesting. But I feel like I'm a 1382 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: winner because I didn't watch half an hour that I 1383 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: watched twelve minutes, right, you know, because it's just it's 1384 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: just here the prospects, and I would have got to 1385 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: know the prospects a little bit more if I did 1386 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: watch the entire half hour, because that's what they do, 1387 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 1: They talk to the players. I know nothing about college ball, 1388 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: so that would have been beneficial for me. So actually, 1389 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm a loser. No, but it was they it 1390 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: was entertaining. I guess, yeah, sure, I guess that's the 1391 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: same stuff. There aren't moments we talked about it yesterday? 1392 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Are there moments? I mean no, not not really. 1393 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 3: It's usually like reactions like yay we won or crap, 1394 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 3: we didn't move up. I think who is that old 1395 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 3: pacer as a woman had a sort of they just 1396 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 3: cut to her after they didn't have perhaps yeah, it 1397 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 3: was just like yeah, and it was like just a 1398 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 3: just a quick reaction shot and people, you know, clip 1399 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 3: it and again captured it or whatever. That's it. But 1400 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 3: you're right, not much happens more more entertaining in the 1401 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 3: actual draft night when you see what everybody's wearing and 1402 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 3: some of the things said about them and some of 1403 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 3: the uh, you know, old exposed takes that come out 1404 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 3: of a potential draft night. I don't know about this guy, 1405 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 3: or this guy is not that great, and then you 1406 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 3: know ten years later or they're an MVP and and they're. 1407 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 5: Clipping it all right, Skeets. 1408 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,919 Speaker 4: Let's say you get chosen as the Raptors draft representative. 1409 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 4: Do you go in knowing you've got two reactions you 1410 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 4: gotta have you gotta have a happy one, and you 1411 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 4: gotta have a disappointed one. 1412 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 5: Are you brainstorming ahead of time? 1413 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 3: Do you have a draft board for your lottery reactow, 1414 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 3: great question, Never thought about it. I wouldn't even pluff. 1415 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't plan for a disappointed reaction. Don't go in 1416 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 3: with that, I said, I'd only plan like what am 1417 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 3: I going to do? And we when we jump up 1418 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 3: to the top four, when we get the number one. 1419 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 3: But I also liked your topless for top four, and 1420 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 3: that backfired, like would they let the pods topless? 1421 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 4: I think so, just sitting at the podium, no shirt on, 1422 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 4: everybody else in suits. 1423 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,439 Speaker 5: They're like, let's go top four. 1424 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but I wouldn't 1425 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 3: plan for the bad outcome. 1426 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 7: Though. 1427 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 4: Those are the funniest reactions because they're real swin cash. 1428 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 4: The people are saying, you would have the temperate boy reaction. 1429 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's good call. Let's take one more break 1430 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 3: here before we get to Lily's tweet of the name 1431 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 3: back with no Dunk's time for a tweet of the. 1432 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Night, Tweet of the night. Wow, Twitter, my man, Lely, 1433 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: what do. 1434 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 3: You got so many good tweets last night? 1435 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1436 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, go with this one that came in yesterday sometime, 1437 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 6: and it came from Jordan Brand to celebrate the twenty 1438 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 6: fifth anniversary of the WNBA's inaugural game. Jordan Brand is 1439 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 6: proud to announce its largest female roster ever, a group 1440 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 6: of inspiring women whose impact extends far beyond the court 1441 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 6: and who continue to prove they're here for a reason. 1442 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 6: And then they put out this photo as well of 1443 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 6: Michael in there with all those women, and I think 1444 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 6: this is just such a great image, the most famous 1445 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 6: basketball player of all time really putting his name out 1446 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 6: there and attaching it to the women's game, which I 1447 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 6: think is just a significant monumental moment for the game. 1448 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 6: Because the w NBA certainly has grown over the last 1449 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 6: couple of years in terms of its you know, appeal 1450 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 6: and the games and and that, but still there's a 1451 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 6: big difference in terms of how much money the game 1452 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,439 Speaker 6: generates and how much money the women then earned to play. 1453 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 6: Now there are still you know, plenty of bridges that 1454 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 6: we have to cross, but I think when you have 1455 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 6: the biggest name on the man's side, they're really promoting 1456 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 6: it and marketing the game, that's going to help. And 1457 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 6: I just think that's that's an awesome look there for 1458 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 6: for Michael, for Jordan brand, for Jumpman brand, and for 1459 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 6: women's basketball, not just within America, across the world. So 1460 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 6: congratulations to Jumpman and women's basketball. 1461 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Good stuff. Did you see Trey? You probably did because 1462 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 3: you're the sole man here. DeRozan's Kobe's like custom Koby 1463 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 3: kicks that were the w NBA like orange. 1464 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 4: It's colored by like Kobe sitting courts. Yeah, back in 1465 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 4: the day where the orange really cool. 1466 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. You so you can't buy those? 1467 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 4: Those are just like four I mean, I assume right 1468 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 4: now they're just DeRozan pees since he's got, you know, 1469 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 4: a Nike deal and he's like he's had sick kobepees 1470 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 4: for a long time. 1471 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 5: But I don't. 1472 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 4: I mean, they're getting a great review or great reviews 1473 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 4: on Twitter, and obviously the WNBA is getting a little 1474 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 4: bit more cultural backing for sure. And you know that 1475 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 4: orange hoodie by itself was like a huge success. Uh, 1476 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 4: you know, kind of changing the image of the league 1477 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 4: and making it a just a cool piece to have. 1478 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 4: So I can see that being the case as Jordan 1479 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 4: Brandon Nike gets deeper and deeper into women's basketball. I 1480 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 4: don't know that Laura's favorite shoe of all time still 1481 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 4: is the Ryl Swoops, so maybe they'll bring those back 1482 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, asymmetrical lacing great for bad ankles, which 1483 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 4: interestingly unfortunate. 1484 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 3: Does Laura have bigger feet than you? 1485 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: We share? 1486 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 5: Wow, her shoes are my shoes. 1487 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Are all right? 1488 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 5: Well, let's call it there. 1489 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: Fun Wednesday podcast guys, keep your questions and your comments 1490 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 3: coming No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Send them in, 1491 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 3: email them in, or tweet them in at No Dunk Sinc. 1492 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 3: We'll be hitting the beach again next week, probably on Wednesday, 1493 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 3: so you got a lot of time to get your 1494 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 3: questions in comments. And we did hit the beach yesterday. 1495 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 3: If you didn't go listen to yesterday's podcast did like 1496 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 3: a good thirty minutes on hypothetical Ben Simmons trades. We 1497 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 3: had them go into like seven or eight different teams 1498 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 3: breaking down the pros and cons of some of those 1499 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 3: deals that a lot of you sent in by way 1500 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 3: of Twitter, and then we hit the beach to answer 1501 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 3: some of your questions, So check out Tuesday's podcast. Thanks 1502 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 3: everybody who joined us last night for a I mean, 1503 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 3: I can call it very weird No Dunks happy Hour, 1504 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 3: Draft Lottery watch party. It was just it was one 1505 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 3: of the odder ones we've done, but sure Larv's larvs 1506 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 3: were had, So thanks everybody that rolled through. If you 1507 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 3: don't have an Athletic subscription, go to the Athletic dot 1508 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 3: com slash no Dunks so they know that we sent you, 1509 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 3: and go to no dunks dot com for your No 1510 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 3: Dunk skier. Like this big beef shirt that I got 1511 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 3: on there, somebody was asking why do we do this 1512 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 3: to show off our shirts and not stand up right 1513 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 3: to show off our shirts? Like are you guys? 1514 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's in our mail bag episode next week. 1515 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 1: It's our schedules. 1516 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 3: Okay, awesome, And then I knew I saw it somewhere 1517 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 3: that makes a lot of sense. 1518 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: It wasn't in yesterday's show, but then we you decided 1519 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: to throw in those bends Simmons straight, so we were 1520 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: saving it for next week. Yeah, there's a conspiracy theory 1521 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 1: out there that there's a reason that no one stands up. 1522 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 6: In I mean, I'm not gonna yeah. I mean, you know, 1523 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 6: I wear shirts all the time, so. 1524 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 3: Okay, that's why we don't stare weird stupid. And then 1525 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 3: when I'm standing up here, I can't I can't talk 1526 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 3: into the bike. I mean, I guess hear it just 1527 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 3: a Torso time Ford boy becomes Torso boy. 1528 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 5: That's very weird. I guess we're getting into it now. 1529 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to stand up on the podcast ones 1530 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 4: and I threw my microphone everywhere and it made a huge, 1531 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 4: huge racket. So that's personally why I like to just 1532 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 4: you know, pop the shirt. That's all people care about. 1533 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 5: Anyways. 1534 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: The conspiracy theory out there is that we're all wearing 1535 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: underwear right and we don't want to show waist down. 1536 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 3: Well, and people think that because when you dropped your computer, 1537 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 3: the one time you could quickly see your your your. 1538 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: There it is rolling it in right now. People thought 1539 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 1: those were underwear. Wow, water an angle. 1540 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,600 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear Van Gundy talk about this. 1541 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 1: Those are some pulling bear shorts that have pulled a 1542 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 1: little bit tighter over the years because they've been in 1543 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: the wash, they've been in the dryer. I love them, 1544 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: so I still wear them, but definitely no underpants. I 1545 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 1: mean they look all yeah, they don't like they look tidy, 1546 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 1: But after you sit down and you hike them up 1547 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: to get ready for the show, uh, sometimes they ride. 1548 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,719 Speaker 1: Yeah a five inch five inch in seemed perhaps maybe 1549 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: they've just gotten smaller. It's this woven fabric that's really 1550 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: gotten a lot smaller. But I still love them. 1551 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 3: Could you could you stand up for me? 1552 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course I've got the ones on again. 1553 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 8: Okay, wow, yeah, they like they like sweatpants, but they 1554 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 8: shot sweatpants. 1555 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 6: Very comfortable, very comfortable. 1556 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 3: Clipper bros, you heard it here first. 1557 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 5: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome. 1558 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us in. Remember you can stay. 1559 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 6: Every day. 1560 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: And daddy happy every minute. 1561 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the fun. 1562 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 1: Of way for It's happened already. It's gonna be grippy.