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Speaker 1: off season Wednesday, if you believe such things exists the
Speaker 1: off season, that is, but at off season Wednesday, with
Speaker 1: a ton of implications for the regular season. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take you through some of those things that will have
Speaker 1: an impact, including the latest on the league's investigation into
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the allegations, the twenty two allegations against him,
Speaker 1: the Baker Mayfield situation created by the Browns acquiring Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: as well as Drew Brees and his activity in the
Speaker 1: tweets regarding his future. To discuss those goings on, I've
Speaker 1: got some help here on my maiden voyage on this
Speaker 1: particular ship, NFL Networks Steve White as well as NFL
Speaker 1: Networks James Palmer Gentleman. Uh. Let's let's get started here
Speaker 1: with that the most notable news a day where we
Speaker 1: wait the result after NFL investigators met with New Brown's quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Investigation has a goal of determining whether or not he
Speaker 1: violated the personal Conduct policy. James, for those who have
Speaker 1: been following this story for almost the full one and
Speaker 1: a half years have been waiting for this part of it.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the timeline as well as
Speaker 1: the potential result You said a keyword there, Patrick, in
Speaker 1: terms of how it pertains to the personal conduct policy.
Speaker 1: We have to remember that being found guilty in any
Speaker 1: sort of criminal activity doesn't play a part right in
Speaker 1: how they view you in breaking the criminal conduct policy. Now,
Speaker 1: remember too, grand Juries decided that not to indict him
Speaker 1: on criminal charges. That doesn't change whether he violated the
Speaker 1: personal Conduct policy in the eyes of the NFL. What
Speaker 1: usually happens, right, Steve, is when we see that they're
Speaker 1: talking to the player. The appearance usually is they've gathered
Speaker 1: a lot of information and now they're talking to the player, right.
Speaker 1: That usually happens towards the end of what their investigation
Speaker 1: UH pertains. They usually don't talk to the player early
Speaker 1: on in the process. They want all the information presented
Speaker 1: to the player. Then had the conversation with the the player.
Speaker 1: Remember that happening with Tyreek Kill maybe was that two
Speaker 1: years ago when he had his happening around this same
Speaker 1: time of the off season, it has that feeling Steve
Speaker 1: that like with them meeting with DeShawn now that we
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks could be hearing some
Speaker 1: sort of determination on a on a possible suspension. You know,
Speaker 1: it seems like the fact that the league is talking
Speaker 1: to the Shawn Watson now that will have you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before training camp at least knowing
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be suspended, if he's gonna be suspended,
Speaker 1: when he will be uh disciplined, those types of answers
Speaker 1: that we've all been waiting for. It. I'm sure the
Speaker 1: Browns want to know more than anything, and they don't
Speaker 1: know right now. I've talked to people with the Browns
Speaker 1: right they don't know. Nobody has any idea what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And you know, look, DeShawn Watson said all along he
Speaker 1: can't wait to tell his side of things. You know,
Speaker 1: he wants to lay this out there his legal team,
Speaker 1: So we'll see what the league belief. But you know,
Speaker 1: you you take you know, what the league has done
Speaker 1: with the situation before, from bounty Gate, to Deflate Gate,
Speaker 1: to you know, Josh Gordon, to some of these individual circumstances,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott probably being the more most prominent one where
Speaker 1: he was not He's not criminally charged. He's were just
Speaker 1: kind of accusations, um, pictures, things that could be used
Speaker 1: as evidence. And you know Zeke was you know, he
Speaker 1: was disciplined, he was suspended for a while, UM. And
Speaker 1: so you look at the threshold of the accusations against
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson compared to some of the other players
Speaker 1: who've been disciplined under the Personal Conduct Policy. I think
Speaker 1: most people are expecting some type of discipline, but you
Speaker 1: just don't know. If the Shawan and his team layout
Speaker 1: this is really what happened, he may not be disciplined,
Speaker 1: I think. But think about the potential blowback because you know,
Speaker 1: for two years we've heard everything against the Shawn Watson
Speaker 1: and if all of a sudden he's got evidence that says, yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing really happened in here. So it's gonna be very
Speaker 1: interesting to see how the league handles this if it's
Speaker 1: something where he fights it in court, because we've seen
Speaker 1: cases and I believe in Ezekiel maybe I'm wrong where
Speaker 1: he would play that not play, the play the not play,
Speaker 1: you know, so again I think there'll be some type
Speaker 1: of at least initial resolution from the league standpoint before
Speaker 1: training camp. And the interesting part about it is, guys,
Speaker 1: like the timeline is still flexible within the civil lawsuits
Speaker 1: like they right now in my understanding, right if things
Speaker 1: aren't solved, I believe by June one, all of these
Speaker 1: hearings are going to be pushed back to three starting
Speaker 1: in March, so they could come up with a suspension,
Speaker 1: whether it's six games, eight games, ten games. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'd like to get European team. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to be the full season. That's just a
Speaker 1: guest though. Um, whatever the suspension is any almost all
Speaker 1: of these civil lawsuits might not be finalized. They could
Speaker 1: be pushed back to so there is the un potential
Speaker 1: to my understanding of no suspension, there could be a
Speaker 1: suspension in Yeah. I mean, look, the lead does not
Speaker 1: want to put itself in a situation. Okay, let's administer
Speaker 1: punishment now, right and then nothing Like you said, these
Speaker 1: these lawsuits gets push three, then he's found liable for
Speaker 1: some or all of them. Is the punishment retroactive? I mean,
Speaker 1: has he already served it? Are they going to hit
Speaker 1: him with double jeopardy so to speak under the personal
Speaker 1: conduct policy or or how would that work. So again,
Speaker 1: this is a really intriguing You can't say legal because
Speaker 1: it's not legal, but in terms of, you know, the
Speaker 1: dynamic of the timeline of how this could be handled
Speaker 1: and if punishment is meted out and if it's not,
Speaker 1: again the public relations, the public potential blowback of no punishment,
Speaker 1: how that's going to be meeted out. The last part
Speaker 1: Patrick I would say is it was interesting. I think
Speaker 1: it was at the first owners meetings, right, not these
Speaker 1: ones coming up. Obviously he can't speak ahead of time,
Speaker 1: that would be a wormhole and all sorts of situations.
Speaker 1: But when Roger Now spoke at the owners meetings and
Speaker 1: said that they, you know, they were going to speak
Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson when they felt they had enough information.
Speaker 1: So now that they're meeting, and that was, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, it appears then that they
Speaker 1: think they have enough information to meet with the Shawn Wats.
Speaker 1: It seems like the double edged sword of evaluating all
Speaker 1: of these different circumstances. See if you mentioned Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: of course, uh deflate gate the investigation into the commanders
Speaker 1: now right, evaluating these circumstances and individually puts you in
Speaker 1: a position where you have an independent investigation. And so
Speaker 1: the the ultimate question from people on the outside is,
Speaker 1: if you're evaluating this individually with your own investigators, with
Speaker 1: your own information, why is it contingent on things that
Speaker 1: happened outside of that. Why would you be concerned about
Speaker 1: the results of a civil lawsuit or the results of
Speaker 1: a legal investigation if you're having an independent investigation, And
Speaker 1: why the timeline has to be so different in that
Speaker 1: timeline right as put teams in positions where they don't know.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Browns not knowing, and it gets us
Speaker 1: to this point where Steve, or are they do they
Speaker 1: have a plan to to start with Jacoby Brissette or
Speaker 1: is there a Jacoby Brissette plan that that has this
Speaker 1: kind of quantum superposition of whether or not Deshaun is
Speaker 1: going to actually play football and when that happens. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean that's why they went on got
Speaker 1: Jecoby Brissett and you know, and it didn't go with
Speaker 1: you know, a younger quarterback. I mean the Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: is what it is. I mean, that's that ship is sealed.
Speaker 1: We could we could, yeah, I mean we could talk
Speaker 1: a while, he could show up the camp. He could
Speaker 1: still play. Why why would he do that? But anyway,
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in just a minute. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's why they went and got a pro
Speaker 1: like Jacoby Persett who could come in six games, eight games.
Speaker 1: The team is good enough for Jacoby Brissette, you know,
Speaker 1: who can who can manage things to hold it, you know,
Speaker 1: to hold things down so he can hand it off
Speaker 1: and give to Nick Chubb. And in all these and
Speaker 1: you see the schedule, do they have any prime time
Speaker 1: games before? Like Week six? They have only two prime
Speaker 1: time games Thursday night Week three, Monday night Week eight.
Speaker 1: Okay are there two prime time games? So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's a situation where the league is even kind
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, we know Sean Watson is one of those,
Speaker 1: you know, electrifying players in the NFL. But keep him
Speaker 1: off the prime time so one minimized exposure, um, even
Speaker 1: if he is playing, just because of everything that's been
Speaker 1: alleged against him. And the other is, you know, if
Speaker 1: he's not playing, is the draw really gonna be Jakobe Persett?
Speaker 1: But I mean in terms of the Browns, they would
Speaker 1: not have made the trade if they did not have
Speaker 1: planned b s in all of this in place, knowing
Speaker 1: that there could be potential discipline and play. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: one other little point on this is Patrick made a
Speaker 1: good point about how these works. This is is this
Speaker 1: the I think, right, the first one we're seeing under
Speaker 1: the new CBA where this isn't Roger else call right,
Speaker 1: this is independent of Roger Goodell and what happens in here.
Speaker 1: And so this is a little bit different than what
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. And hopefully, especially considering because
Speaker 1: Steve you mentioned optics and the way things go about,
Speaker 1: hopefully the league is not taking any action that limits
Speaker 1: a conversation that we can have UH surrounding sexual violence.
Speaker 1: If it's whether it's putting the game in a certain
Speaker 1: spot or having it at a certain time. I think
Speaker 1: regardless of whether Deshaun is playing, UM, we have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to facilitate this conversation, and hopefully UM we we
Speaker 1: can go about doing that in a way. And and
Speaker 1: in terms of that conversation, Steve Um, a lot of
Speaker 1: Deshawn's teammates are going to have to be a part
Speaker 1: of that, and he has an opportunity this offseason to
Speaker 1: at least right put them in a position to where
Speaker 1: they can be comfortable having a conversation about him and
Speaker 1: about the circumstances without causing right harm. Uh for for
Speaker 1: people who are victims for but who are going through this.
Speaker 1: How how does how has he tried to facilitate that
Speaker 1: relationship thus far? And that's fantastic question because you know,
Speaker 1: what we see publicly and what happens privately are two
Speaker 1: different things. I mean, these conversations one look in the
Speaker 1: management of the Browns, they've had to happen. You know
Speaker 1: who the Browns push out there is the face of
Speaker 1: their ownership group. It is d Hassling. You know, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Hassling is the is the name behind it. But they
Speaker 1: pushed the Hassling out there a lot. She's got some
Speaker 1: strong opinions, right, So they came out. Remember it was
Speaker 1: kind of a fumbled initial press conference where I don't
Speaker 1: even think they were at the news conference. They were
Speaker 1: on vacation at a remote side overseas. Overseas yea. And
Speaker 1: what was said was kind of like, uh so you've
Speaker 1: got that part where they're you know, they're having those
Speaker 1: internal discussions pansmit wise with players, because they're going to
Speaker 1: be the ones who have to answer questions for to Shawn,
Speaker 1: I've been in too many of these situations S. S.
Speaker 1: James where somebody's you know, with Michael vickdaug fiding stuff
Speaker 1: is teammates to talk about it for half a season
Speaker 1: if got longer, um, things like that. So it's a
Speaker 1: very tough situation. But this is where you see who
Speaker 1: your leaders are. Like you said, Patrick, can we have
Speaker 1: an open discussion about sexual violence, uh, inappropriate behavior, domestic
Speaker 1: you know, domestic situations, And this is an opportunity for
Speaker 1: them to speak out on it without possibly violating the
Speaker 1: trust that they built up with the Sewan to speak
Speaker 1: about in personal terms or in general terms. But that's
Speaker 1: something you're hoping that the Browns, and I know they've
Speaker 1: got a pretty good media relationshis department and player player
Speaker 1: Engagement department where they're gonna have these players prepped because
Speaker 1: those those questions are going to come um from the
Speaker 1: local folks and especially folks coming in from out of
Speaker 1: town who may not even be sports writers, uh you know,
Speaker 1: asking about this. I'll pick it back on that state.
Speaker 1: And it's not just the players and the organizations are preparing.
Speaker 1: I talked to other organizations just just ingest right, going
Speaker 1: like what would you do if you guys landed Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: We're talking to two other teams just kind of about
Speaker 1: what they would go through the process with and it
Speaker 1: was endless what they were listening to me, you know,
Speaker 1: and how they would have to talk to all of
Speaker 1: their people on the phone that are taking calls from
Speaker 1: season ticket holders, and how that conversation would go because
Speaker 1: it's it's a topic that needs to be talked about
Speaker 1: and it should be talked about in that locker room.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if DeShawn is going to address the
Speaker 1: team or talk to guys individually, but it's definitely one
Speaker 1: that I believe as a teammate I would like to
Speaker 1: have with him. What I'm interested in is how that
Speaker 1: those relationships are, let's be honest, relatively new with those
Speaker 1: teammates compared to the ones he had in Houston. And
Speaker 1: I was in Houston plenty and those guys over the
Speaker 1: last year, remember de Sean didn't talk at all. They
Speaker 1: had to answer throughout the entire season, and it was
Speaker 1: very interesting. The I want to generalize an entire locker room,
Speaker 1: but you would you could say the majority were loyal
Speaker 1: and faithful to the Shawn and the relationships from what
Speaker 1: I was told behind closed doors, were very good, very amicable.
Speaker 1: He caused no problems in the locker room. There weren't
Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean there weren't arguments
Speaker 1: with him about this topic or other topics behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: But this is a new group of guys, and this
Speaker 1: is in. These are new relationships. It's gonna be something
Speaker 1: that has to be and done. I apparently maybe he
Speaker 1: wants to do it in the Bahamas where he's taking guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's it's a conversation. If I
Speaker 1: was a teammate to put my personal opinion on it,
Speaker 1: I would want to have And that's real quick, real quick.
Speaker 1: In the building itself, not just in the locker room.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of women, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of men who feel a certain way. Um, that's a
Speaker 1: NodD dynamic. Because I know one team UM that was
Speaker 1: involved in the trade talks what does Shan watch in
Speaker 1: that caught major blowback for employees in the building like this,
Speaker 1: this is not it, This is not it. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of massagy. And again the Browns before
Speaker 1: they made this step, I am sure that they spoke
Speaker 1: to a lot of people in their building and and
Speaker 1: everything to prepare for this. They had too, it was
Speaker 1: about five months Steve they were interested, so they had
Speaker 1: at least at least But I mean, that's another dynamic
Speaker 1: that might not ever, might not ever go away. And
Speaker 1: and to be clear, as James mentioned, the conversations that
Speaker 1: the teams had right the kind of the things that
Speaker 1: they were prepared to do, these are things that should
Speaker 1: be done anyway. People, these people who should be empowered.
Speaker 1: These are discussions that we should be having, whether or
Speaker 1: not Deshaun Watson plays a single down in two and
Speaker 1: the fact that he got there takes us to the
Speaker 1: next discussion because it led to more than rue thing
Speaker 1: being set in motion. That was the start of the
Speaker 1: end of Baker Mayfield. And we've gone through some iterations
Speaker 1: of this Baker job hunt. Right that there he was
Speaker 1: calling a shot saying he wanted Indie, he didn't want Carolina.
Speaker 1: Then Indie wanted and got Matt Ryan, and Carolina said
Speaker 1: that disinterest was mutual. In the draft, we had some
Speaker 1: quarterbacks going now we're here, which is nowhere for Baker
Speaker 1: at the moment. Uh. So, so James, what's up? Is
Speaker 1: anybody trading for Baker Mayfield? Who is still involved in
Speaker 1: this process? I got a text this morning from inside
Speaker 1: the organization that said, nothing is going on right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, absolutely nothing is going on. And I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that right that quarterback carousel and
Speaker 1: or musical chairs and is there a chair for Baker
Speaker 1: to fall into? You mentioned Indie he had interest there
Speaker 1: when I talked to people in Indianapolis that they had
Speaker 1: no interest. Um, there was a small amount of interest
Speaker 1: some with the Panthers. Uh. And then they traded and
Speaker 1: get Matt Corrall and and that that's gone. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe Seattle falls out of love with threw Lock halfway
Speaker 1: through the season, I mean, or somebody gets hurt Steve
Speaker 1: in terms of health wise from another team right now,
Speaker 1: but right now, nothing is happening. And this has been
Speaker 1: a fascinating ride, uh to watch honestly from just a
Speaker 1: journalism standpoint, because of the way it's gone down right see,
Speaker 1: because if you think about the way this has happened,
Speaker 1: I go back to, you know, earlier in the year
Speaker 1: I was doing a Thursday night game in Cleveland against
Speaker 1: the Broncos, if you remember this, and they were determining
Speaker 1: whether Baker was going to play in this game. And
Speaker 1: it comes down to Wednesday's practice when Case Keenum comes
Speaker 1: out with defancy and he's that practice they tell everybody
Speaker 1: on Wednesday Keenum is the starter. Oh, b J and
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry were not going to play in that game, right.
Speaker 1: They ended up playing in that game after they found
Speaker 1: out in practice on Wednesday that Case Keenum was going
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback. And I and when I found
Speaker 1: that out, I was like, this is this is this
Speaker 1: is a spot man and so I mean it has been.
Speaker 1: And then the funny board is there's coaches that I know.
Speaker 1: There're Steven I know you know that I think the
Speaker 1: world a Baker at the same time, so he is
Speaker 1: a polarizing personality, but I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would like to see your tape. Is I'm watching Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo go through a situation in San Francisco where he
Speaker 1: takes them in twenty nineteen to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: then they trade three first round picks for a prospect,
Speaker 1: not a Deshaun Watson, who the last time we saw
Speaker 1: him play as a top five quarterback in football, and
Speaker 1: he went out and played and took him to the
Speaker 1: postseason again. It's it is a really wild right, and
Speaker 1: I want to get the timeline down a little bit
Speaker 1: because if if what I'm hearing is right that at
Speaker 1: the Combine Baker's represent that it were made clear that
Speaker 1: they would potentially go after a a top top quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how he was lied to. And that's
Speaker 1: just my opinion. If he found out at the combine
Speaker 1: that they would maybe be going after you know, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson or a or Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, you may not have have been lied to,
Speaker 1: but it hurt. I mean, it's like Matt Ryans Ryan
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, you're in on Deshaun Watson. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I've given fourteen years this organization. I
Speaker 1: rescued it from the ashes, give me out of here,
Speaker 1: and the other did him as solid and got him
Speaker 1: to you know potentially actually yeah, I mean, and so
Speaker 1: with Baker, you know you talked about how like Jarvis
Speaker 1: and O b J decided to play. I've talked to
Speaker 1: countless teams who are like, you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: that stuff got past us. You know, we know our
Speaker 1: locker rooms, and that's not gonna work, you know. So
Speaker 1: I do think at some point Baker will be on
Speaker 1: another team. But the longer this goes on, that's more
Speaker 1: time for Jimmy Garoppolo to heal, and teams would much
Speaker 1: rather if you're look, I don't think the Niners trade
Speaker 1: Jimmy to Seattle, but they might. I mean for real,
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's nine weeks to take a
Speaker 1: good look at Drew lock because by the time he's throwing,
Speaker 1: it's what mid July begin being like. Then you have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to that these teams have seen some some
Speaker 1: and then you then but then the point you're making
Speaker 1: seams that throws Jimmy now into the mix, and it
Speaker 1: makes it even more complicated. There are a lot more
Speaker 1: teams that would take Jimmy g than Baker Mayfield for
Speaker 1: for note, for you know, Jimmy's durability issues for everything,
Speaker 1: because they saw how he handled the trail Lance situation
Speaker 1: last year, which was just unbelievable. So with Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: I think it may them down to you know, either
Speaker 1: the Broncos paying his attire salary because then somebody might
Speaker 1: take him, maybe Houston. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they want to introduce that into what, you know,
Speaker 1: a guy in the last year's contract and to what
Speaker 1: they're trying to build. So and look, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: several people that the Seahawks. They're like, we've heard no
Speaker 1: interest from the Seahawks. And that's that's the thing. We
Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks, both were injured at the end of
Speaker 1: the season. Both needed surgery at the after the after
Speaker 1: the season came to an end. One of those quarterbacks
Speaker 1: was a couple of plays away from going to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The other quarterback who was hurt. And you
Speaker 1: can clearly make the case that Baker shouldn't have been playing.
Speaker 1: I think Jarvis and O'Dell were probably making that case
Speaker 1: right when when they elected to play with Case but
Speaker 1: not with Baker. But um, he was out there and
Speaker 1: the results, James, they they weren't good. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to remember it. Those first two weeks. I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak exactly on stets, he was completing
Speaker 1: like eight percent of his balls for the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: I know it's a small sample size. But then the
Speaker 1: injury happened. We three, and he really wasn't the same guy. Know,
Speaker 1: he talked on a podcast about how affected him physically,
Speaker 1: affected him, mentally, lost his self confidence, UM and and
Speaker 1: those things, because we did see the offense working the
Speaker 1: year before, right, him operating out of that play action
Speaker 1: with a really good run game that you should be
Speaker 1: relying on if you're Cleveland and running the football quite
Speaker 1: a bit. So, Yeah, the injuries definitely hurt, but there
Speaker 1: was a little more to Keenham playing. There's a night
Speaker 1: game than just Baker's Baker's hell, go tape your non
Speaker 1: throwing shoulder down, uh, tape your armjuicide and try to
Speaker 1: throw a football. It's it's exceedingly difficult, and we have
Speaker 1: seen Baker play at a very high level. UM. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot. There's a lot that goes into this decision.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes into the direction of a
Speaker 1: franchise UM, and we've seen recently UM Indianapolis for example,
Speaker 1: UM in Carolina as well. You try to take a
Speaker 1: shot at a former top ten pick UM and and
Speaker 1: things don't necessarily work out real quick. I just this
Speaker 1: kind of hit me, and it's kind of a Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield feels like he was lied to, and once out
Speaker 1: of Cleveland, he's being replaced by a quarterback into Shaun Watson,
Speaker 1: who felt like he was lied to in Houston in
Speaker 1: and refused to play for the Texans and is now
Speaker 1: replacing Baker. Different situations. Deshaun was playing at a what's
Speaker 1: the top five quarterback? I mean that that roster was
Speaker 1: was terrible in in twenty nineteen, and he played led
Speaker 1: the league in passing. He was fantastic, but he felt
Speaker 1: like ownership lied to him. Now, Jimmy hasm has said
Speaker 1: that he he stated, I don't think Baker was talking
Speaker 1: about ownership when he mentioned that he was lied to.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what exactly he meant by that, but um,
Speaker 1: that's where Deshaun Watson's issues lied in Houston, and it's
Speaker 1: just kind of a sense of irony. I know the
Speaker 1: situations are different, but they both feel like they were
Speaker 1: lied to, both one out, one's replacing the other. That's
Speaker 1: that's what they say about grass and the relative greenness
Speaker 1: of it. Sometimes. We're gonna continue our discussion with a
Speaker 1: quarterback who's going to Canton, Ohio but he's also on
Speaker 1: the Twitter machine talking about his future. What's the latest
Speaker 1: on Drew Brees. We'll hit you up with that when
Speaker 1: we come back here on NFL Inside Report. We're back
Speaker 1: here on the NFL Inside Report, Patrick Laybon and for
Speaker 1: Red Louis with Steve Wash and James Palmer taking me
Speaker 1: through my maiden voyage on this particular ship, which is
Speaker 1: always captained by Thomas Warren. Thank you, Thank you, James.
Speaker 1: Let's uh get to some meeting news. We got the
Speaker 1: Spring League meeting next week in Atlanta and over a
Speaker 1: couple of days, minority coach and GM prospects from each
Speaker 1: team are going to get a chance to network with
Speaker 1: owners and high ranking executives as the league continues to
Speaker 1: make a push, UH to to have some more diversity
Speaker 1: in its ranks, especially the coaching and management ranks. And Steve,
Speaker 1: this is a conversation that we had extensively, um, you know,
Speaker 1: during the lead up to the Super Bowl, and it
Speaker 1: gets us to that point where who are the decision
Speaker 1: makers here? Well, there they are. They're they're the owners.
Speaker 1: So so what are we expecting UH to get next week? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, each team has to nominate a potential
Speaker 1: GM candidate and potential head coaching candidate to come to
Speaker 1: this league meeting to meet with team officials and owners.
Speaker 1: If the owners so choose to meet with them. Nobody's
Speaker 1: being required to do this. And this is a suggestion
Speaker 1: that's been made by Tony Dungey and Marvin Lewis and
Speaker 1: a lot of people for years. Like these owners have
Speaker 1: no idea personally who Joe Wit is or in a
Speaker 1: Gero Viro from you know, the defense coordinator for the
Speaker 1: Broncos and you know Joe Wit from secondary coach for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, or or Kai Harley the cap the capologist
Speaker 1: from New Orleans Saints. So this is an opportunity for
Speaker 1: them to meet them again. I'll be at these meetings.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very curious to see how many of
Speaker 1: them actually meet them, how many of them are sincere
Speaker 1: because the good clubs, good ownership. Let's say you're the Rams, right,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is going nowhere, but a Stan Cronkey or
Speaker 1: the team president wants, you know, Kevin Demov. Maybe they
Speaker 1: meet with these guys because they have such a churn
Speaker 1: of people in the front office that or or on
Speaker 1: their coaching step Okay, let's get this guy in here
Speaker 1: just for whatever reason, or we can recommend him to
Speaker 1: somebody else, to another team, because people always coming to
Speaker 1: our guys and asking us. We could say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you may want to look at this guy right here.
Speaker 1: There maybe some other teams who were just like I
Speaker 1: don't want to be told what to do. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do this. We'll see. I will be there
Speaker 1: watching and I will not be biding my tongue uh
Speaker 1: publicly on those who who do not participate in this um.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be intriguing as he would have comes out.
Speaker 1: It's a step, and as you mentioned, pat to, the
Speaker 1: league continues to make a push for diversity. This is
Speaker 1: not a league issue. This isn't an individual team issue
Speaker 1: as to who they want to hire and things like this.
Speaker 1: So it's a step the league is trying to make
Speaker 1: it happen. You know, we'll see if anything comes out
Speaker 1: of this. But again, you know, I do applaud the
Speaker 1: league for at least trying again another measure to introduce
Speaker 1: owners to people who may be out of their circle,
Speaker 1: they're unfamiliar with. And I think see this is a
Speaker 1: good setting for it, right because if you look at
Speaker 1: the other owner meetings, all the gms and head coaches
Speaker 1: are there. They're not at this meeting. Some of them
Speaker 1: will be there. Some of them will be there as well.
Speaker 1: It's a small, much much smaller group that will be
Speaker 1: there on the next week, which to me, I think
Speaker 1: plays as a positive for those that are going to
Speaker 1: be down there as part of this. And I do
Speaker 1: want to make sure that you you you keep everybody
Speaker 1: in check, my man, like I want to hear who's
Speaker 1: showing up, and I want to hear who's there to
Speaker 1: have these meetings because to me and and Steve, you've
Speaker 1: been around this league longer than I have, but we
Speaker 1: both have seen it. A ton of people who are
Speaker 1: hired are hired because of their relationships with the people
Speaker 1: who are hiring. How many assistant coaches in this league, uh,
Speaker 1: I'll just say it are not very good, but they
Speaker 1: know the right people and keep getting gigs. When that
Speaker 1: guy keeps getting either an O C or a DC
Speaker 1: job or a head coaching job, and it's because of
Speaker 1: who they know and that that those relationships need to
Speaker 1: be broadened. The same people are knowing the same people
Speaker 1: over and so that point is if you hire people
Speaker 1: that you have developed a relationship with, let's increase the relationships.
Speaker 1: And certain people are not putting themselves in a in
Speaker 1: a position to expand that, and I think this is
Speaker 1: an effort to do it. It's been what put in
Speaker 1: place you mentioned Tony Dungee others is it's been something
Speaker 1: recommended by people, by minority candidates that have been hired
Speaker 1: and not gonna cans that haven't been hired. So so
Speaker 1: ones that have even succeeded through the process have said,
Speaker 1: I believe that this is something that that will benefit us,
Speaker 1: and so I do applaud the effort. I want to
Speaker 1: see what comes out of it moving forward. One example
Speaker 1: comes to mind, uh in a direct benefit of this
Speaker 1: is I live here in Denver and and I'll be frank.
Speaker 1: The Bronchos have never been known to be an extremely
Speaker 1: diverse organization or front office, but now the name comes
Speaker 1: to mind. And Kelly Klein, who came with George Peyton,
Speaker 1: and I was told her sitting in on all of
Speaker 1: their head coaching candidate interviews that they went through provided
Speaker 1: a completely different perspective they were not ready for to
Speaker 1: everybody else in the room of these candidates and they
Speaker 1: absolutely loved it and never thought about it in the
Speaker 1: first place. Somebody coming from a different background with a
Speaker 1: different perspective helping interview their perspective. Candidates did wonders for
Speaker 1: their interview process. And to me, that is like a
Speaker 1: direct example of the more different, the more diversity you have,
Speaker 1: maybe the more successful you can have. More success you
Speaker 1: can have it in the higher piger process. But we're
Speaker 1: just gonna see in my opinioncy if I want to
Speaker 1: hear what you have to say after being there, uh,
Speaker 1: in terms of actually how it went down, because on
Speaker 1: paper right now talking about it, it seems like a
Speaker 1: good idea. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned, you know, Kelly,
Speaker 1: because you know, part of the diverse nominees are women
Speaker 1: as well, so you know that that's that's part of
Speaker 1: the push. The one thing where I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: like still like you know, I mean, I've seen the
Speaker 1: evidence to um is that you know a lot of
Speaker 1: these white assistant coach who keep getting hired they never
Speaker 1: had to have, you know, the official introduction. These dudes
Speaker 1: are getting hired off a rep. Right, they're getting hired
Speaker 1: off a rep. You touched on McVeigh, You're there. Oh,
Speaker 1: unless you're Raheem Morris. You know, yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: again call me a cynic, but I think I've got
Speaker 1: about the dossier, the length of the Constitution plus um,
Speaker 1: that could provide me evidence that maybe this works, maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't. But again, the effort, it should be applauding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's not cynical, right, it's it's just an analysis
Speaker 1: of the things that have happened, right, And I guess
Speaker 1: the goal would be, uh, to have women in minority
Speaker 1: candidates a part of the front office where it's not
Speaker 1: contingent on them to have some incredible success to justify
Speaker 1: them being there. Uh. They could just be there and
Speaker 1: they could be bad, right, um, but that they would
Speaker 1: still at the very least be there. And and so
Speaker 1: what we look forward to hearing what people have to say,
Speaker 1: and James probably look forward to seeing who chooses to
Speaker 1: not be there as well. I think that's extremely telling.
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, uh, I look at billionaires as
Speaker 1: probably people that are pretty good in business. Um. My
Speaker 1: assumption would mean would be if you're very good in business,
Speaker 1: you would try to improve your business in any capacity possible.
Speaker 1: That to me makes sense, But for some reason doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: If I'm that good at business, I would look, I
Speaker 1: would uncover every stone possible and in every opportunity to
Speaker 1: better my billion dollar business or billion dollar franchise. To
Speaker 1: not attend would be mind blowing to me. In an
Speaker 1: opportunity to better your business, I don't I mean, Steve know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of now that I said it out loud,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, what would that show the rest
Speaker 1: of your organization? Are you trying as much as everybody
Speaker 1: below you to better us as as an organization if
Speaker 1: you were to skip it? Oh, we'll see. Because there's
Speaker 1: some teams at higher coaches and gms every four years, uh,
Speaker 1: you know who tend to just bring in the same
Speaker 1: two diversity candidates as the other teams just so they
Speaker 1: could check a box, uh with you know, with the
Speaker 1: Rooney role. Here's something I want you guys just to
Speaker 1: because me and Jim try to do this time and time.
Speaker 1: Just go on team websites, you know, and it'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, you go to the team index and le'll say,
Speaker 1: let's say, front office, look at pictures. Just just look
Speaker 1: at the pictures of the executives in the front office
Speaker 1: folks on there. It's it's always I did it. The
Speaker 1: other day. It was like, ain't a whole lot change.
Speaker 1: Ain't a whole lot change. Okay, we'll see again. A
Speaker 1: for effort, I will be there. Trust oh, I will
Speaker 1: be there. At the very least, it provides us an
Speaker 1: opportunity to have again, to have the discussion, um, because
Speaker 1: this is not an exclusive NFL problem. This is a
Speaker 1: United States of American problem. This is a planet Earth problem. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the way that that power is distributed along people
Speaker 1: on this planet. Um. And so we will see who's
Speaker 1: who's actually interested um in in facilitating access to these
Speaker 1: positions and move from there because, like like Steve and
Speaker 1: James said, we don't know, we're gonna we're gonna find out,
Speaker 1: all right, We're gonna find out next week. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to wait a little bit longer to to find
Speaker 1: out the future, or at least the post career future
Speaker 1: of one Drew Brees. But first, but before we get
Speaker 1: the breeze, let's let's cover the off season for the
Speaker 1: Saints guy's because it was relatively quiet. Dennis Allen comes back.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to his thirteenth year with the organization.
Speaker 1: Everything was about bringing everybody back, including Jamis Winston. They
Speaker 1: get Chris Olama, Trevor Pinning in the first round of
Speaker 1: the draft. Then here comes the Honey Badger and now
Speaker 1: shout out to the state of Louisiana. By the way,
Speaker 1: with Rhett not out, not not here. Today we got
Speaker 1: loose your high school's own Jarvis Landry now back in
Speaker 1: the Pelican State. It's got three million dollar based deal. Um.
Speaker 1: So we've got all of these additions, and now Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is tweeting. Let's let's look at the tweet because
Speaker 1: people have had a lot of opportunities to discuss the
Speaker 1: tweet despite speculation from media side. Note, you wear a
Speaker 1: microphone on Sundays, Drew and Saturdays. By my future this fall,
Speaker 1: I'm currently undecided. I may work for NBC. I may
Speaker 1: play football again. I might focus on business in philanthropy.
Speaker 1: I may train for the pickleball Tour, senior golf Tour,
Speaker 1: coach my kids, or all of the above. I'll let
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, Drew, I guess you'll let us know. Um, James,
Speaker 1: what's happening there. Well, my thought is reading that I'm
Speaker 1: going to rule out several of them right off the bat.
Speaker 1: He just had shoulder surgery, even though it's just I
Speaker 1: believe left shoulder pickleball is probably out. Um, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this, This has the appearance of I need
Speaker 1: to make sure I continue to have some sort of
Speaker 1: leverage in some capacity. UM, I'll be friends. I covered
Speaker 1: his final NFL game. Uh, that did not look like
Speaker 1: a guy who could come back and play even another
Speaker 1: week in the NFL, let alone. Uh, miss an entire
Speaker 1: season and come back and play again. It's just none
Speaker 1: of it. Steve adds up. They've they've been trying to
Speaker 1: get their cap situation that Drew Brees contracts have put
Speaker 1: them in over the last X number of years by
Speaker 1: pushing money forward all the time. They're still doing it
Speaker 1: a little bit to some capacity right now. But you know,
Speaker 1: bringing him back just financially doesn't work. Play wise, just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to work. I think this is a UM,
Speaker 1: it just seems like it. I'm I'm looking for my
Speaker 1: next move, and I'm going to make sure I create
Speaker 1: as much leverage about going about that as I as
Speaker 1: I can. I mean, that's what it is. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if it's not gonna work with NBC. Let me just
Speaker 1: put this out there that I've got these options. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean Drew could run for governor. You know, I
Speaker 1: mean he went um, so you know, look, my my
Speaker 1: thing is he if he's coming back, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be with the Saints. I mean his his relationship with
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is one thing. Sean Payton is not there.
Speaker 1: Ye have pe Carmichael, doc has the relationship with Drew.
Speaker 1: But they like James win. I mean last year then
Speaker 1: they were never gonna say it out loud, but they
Speaker 1: were like this locker room and this coaching staff and
Speaker 1: maybe wants to prove that they can win without Drew.
Speaker 1: And they were winning until James got hurt and then
Speaker 1: and then they had and then a boatload of injuries.
Speaker 1: So they there's more more more unique lineups than any
Speaker 1: team in NFL. Right, I mean Tayson Hill played every
Speaker 1: place but center, just about it, and now he's relegated
Speaker 1: to tight end and so um, yeah, I mean this again,
Speaker 1: this is true, just kind of creating some leverage. Drew's
Speaker 1: a great Dude's gonna land on his feet, um, whatever
Speaker 1: he decides to do. But if he comes back to
Speaker 1: play it's it's not going to be for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Oh and here's one for you, Patrick, if you if
Speaker 1: you want to really have fun, is a team gonna
Speaker 1: sign Jimmy g your Baker? And it's true, they would
Speaker 1: have to be very, very it would have to be
Speaker 1: an attractive situation on both parties. And I think we
Speaker 1: would need to see some social media video Drew throwing
Speaker 1: the ball out of the stadium or something, uh to
Speaker 1: facilitate that. But in terms of his his old team.
Speaker 1: Uh So, now we talked about I mentioned the fact
Speaker 1: that Jarvis is back in his home state, The honey
Speaker 1: Badger is back in his home state. Um, does that change, Steve,
Speaker 1: how you feel about this team? That that that like
Speaker 1: we said, believe they could win last year and did
Speaker 1: untild Jami's got hurt. Oh. I've talked to people. They're
Speaker 1: all offseason. They think they're gonna be a very good
Speaker 1: football team. That's why when everyone's just like, Okay, Tom's back,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're all crowing the Buccaneers the NC champs,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, go right ahead, We're not going anywhere now.
Speaker 1: A lot of that is Everything I'll say is contingent
Speaker 1: on the health of Jameis Widson if he can come
Speaker 1: back and play. They've got weapons all over the place. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now you had Chris LaVey and Jarvis Landry to
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas who hasn't played basically in two years. They
Speaker 1: feel really good about where their offense is gonna be.
Speaker 1: They think their offensive line is fine. The other locks
Speaker 1: Toronto Armstead, but you know they'll be quick to remind
Speaker 1: you he never played a complete season. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think they can fix things on the offensive line
Speaker 1: and defectively. That's been their bread and butter for years,
Speaker 1: even in Drew's final years. So now you know you've
Speaker 1: got Cam Jordan's on the front line. You've got Da
Speaker 1: Mario Davis on then next line. Now you add Marcus
Speaker 1: May and Honey Badger to a secondary that's got Marshawn Lattimore.
Speaker 1: They've got leaders at every level. But then you add
Speaker 1: Jarvis who's trying to hang on to his two career,
Speaker 1: hang onto his career. He comes with a chip on
Speaker 1: his shoulder to go with Michael Thomas's you know, just
Speaker 1: undescribable chip. Okay, and then you add Tim Matthews chip
Speaker 1: on the shoulder. That's a new injection of how you
Speaker 1: like me? Now I'm gonna show you to a team
Speaker 1: that's kind of set. I I really I really liked
Speaker 1: the Saints again, and if Jarvis is healthy and if
Speaker 1: Tye is healthy, I really really liked them as a possible,
Speaker 1: uh deep run playoff team in the NFC. Or can
Speaker 1: we measure chips on shoulders? The chip tracker going, it's
Speaker 1: his big check. I can't even say it. Red leather,
Speaker 1: yellow leather. Check check your chip tracker, Because I think
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthews might be the biggest of the three Steve mentioned.
Speaker 1: I mean with with really Kansas City having no interest
Speaker 1: in bringing him back, um and after he wins team
Speaker 1: m v P two of the three years he's there,
Speaker 1: and oh yet Patrick Mahomes is on that team all
Speaker 1: three of those seasons. I think he knows how valuable
Speaker 1: he is, he knows how good he is, and to
Speaker 1: go back home to New Orleans full circle in a
Speaker 1: place where he didn't think and I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the and it should be chronicled more best stories
Speaker 1: the NFL has had in Tyron matthews transformation as a
Speaker 1: human being, probably from when he got into the NFL
Speaker 1: to now to where he didn't eve want to be
Speaker 1: anywhere near New Orleans because he didn't think he could
Speaker 1: handle it as a person to now embracing it and
Speaker 1: wanted to be there, Like I can't imagine what he
Speaker 1: will do that first time he comes out of the
Speaker 1: tunnel in one of the loudest places that we've been
Speaker 1: in this league, and what that will be like. But
Speaker 1: but Steve's point, look at the way they're off seasons
Speaker 1: gone right. I think they don't need to tell you
Speaker 1: that they're confident. I think their moves tell you how
Speaker 1: constant they are. Because when I went down and did
Speaker 1: l s Use Pro Day and talking to people down there,
Speaker 1: there was appearance of no interest of a quarterback that
Speaker 1: that trade with the Philadelphi Eagles went through for they
Speaker 1: were hoping to get and no lie this was before
Speaker 1: the draft, a wide receiver and a tackle. They ended
Speaker 1: up getting a wide receiver and a tackle to have
Speaker 1: their interest in Malik Willis, which to my understanding, is
Speaker 1: very similar to what the Falcon's interest in him was.
Speaker 1: And that interest what I'm saying is we think he's
Speaker 1: a great player, great person, smart guy. This is a
Speaker 1: project that's going to take a couple of seasons to
Speaker 1: not have the interest goes we we think we can
Speaker 1: win right now. And then the core that Steve's mentioning,
Speaker 1: I mean you didn't even mention Alvin Kambara's a name.
Speaker 1: I mean, like like they they have, they went from
Speaker 1: having and I did several of their games last year
Speaker 1: two you can clearly say the worst wide receiving group
Speaker 1: in the NFL out last year and all three of
Speaker 1: their top three targets. Now we're not on the team
Speaker 1: last year, and you go to Michael Thomas, h Chris
Speaker 1: lave and and Jarvis Landry. I think this is a
Speaker 1: great spot for Jarvis. The Browns still liked him, to
Speaker 1: my understanding, not a fifteen million dollars a year, but
Speaker 1: I mean they still liked him to a sense, and
Speaker 1: there was some thought of possible coming back after the
Speaker 1: Shawn deal. But like, if you look at the way
Speaker 1: this fits in Steve with Michael Thomas, a true outside,
Speaker 1: big body guy, a burner and Chris lave and then
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity for Jarvis now to work in
Speaker 1: the slot and work in the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: like they can play off each other. Well obviously, yeah,
Speaker 1: A lot of this hinges on Jamis Winston. But they
Speaker 1: thought that what they saw it was what five five games, right,
Speaker 1: a guy that protected the football and had a hundred
Speaker 1: four quarterback rading. I know, we can talk about stats
Speaker 1: all we want, but like he played within the way
Speaker 1: they wanted him. And I think that's a telling aspect
Speaker 1: of how Jamis played is because we want you to
Speaker 1: do this, and they saw him do it. And so
Speaker 1: I think that defense is still what I think there
Speaker 1: are a top five defense in football. Um and then
Speaker 1: all the weapons now you surrounded. It's gonna make life
Speaker 1: actually easier on him now than it was last season
Speaker 1: with who he was trying to get the football too.
Speaker 1: Knowing the character of that team and the guys on
Speaker 1: that team, they probably realized they've got a two year window,
Speaker 1: so why not go for it right now? You know,
Speaker 1: let's let's look at the age of the guys on
Speaker 1: this team, and you know, some plant we get to plant.
Speaker 1: But playing that, don't you think Jervis is gonna mind
Speaker 1: playing that it? Don't you know? When he was playing
Speaker 1: out you know, Miami and the Blaze, and he does
Speaker 1: he did at l s U. But then in Cleveland
Speaker 1: and the weather and now he's got you know, climate
Speaker 1: controlled because they don't just play it domes. You know.
Speaker 1: In New Orleans, he played with something Atlanta, you know,
Speaker 1: one Atlanta. So again this is this is a team.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we can talk. We can start talking about
Speaker 1: the Saints now because Jamis is good to go with
Speaker 1: some of the talent. You know. Actually, just to the
Speaker 1: a f C, they're right there with the Packers and
Speaker 1: they're and they're right there with the Rams in the NFC.
Speaker 1: You're counting the team Steve on one hand, right, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that. I think that plays into their favorite tremendously.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they do own the box. It's Uh.
Speaker 1: And honestly it's Steve. You mentioned the window. You get,
Speaker 1: you get former team veterans back, you get mark Ingram
Speaker 1: back for his last dance, UH in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: all of these guys coming home and James. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the story of Tyrone Matthew Um. There was the Spice
Speaker 1: incident when he was at l s U. Uh was
Speaker 1: kicked off of the team, had to take his own
Speaker 1: route to the NFL, and there was a kind of
Speaker 1: dismissal of Tyron Matthew Uh down there on the Gulf Coast,
Speaker 1: and he ultimately is now a huge donor in the
Speaker 1: LSU football program, donating his time and his money there. Uh.
Speaker 1: He shown that forgiveness, and it's kind of a reminder
Speaker 1: that when these guys are nineteen years old, they're they're
Speaker 1: not finished products. UM. And as adults, right, UM, we
Speaker 1: we should be able to understand that and see that
Speaker 1: the growth that they can have in the contributions they
Speaker 1: can make. In speaking of contributions, before we go get guys,
Speaker 1: a shout out to the Buffalo Bills Foundation the NFL Foundation,
Speaker 1: UH combining to donate four hundred thousand dollars to local
Speaker 1: response efforts after the shooting at the supermarket in Buffalo. UM.
Speaker 1: The Bills announced that it combined two hundred thousands gonna
Speaker 1: go to the Buffalo Together Community Response Fund, trying to
Speaker 1: address things that they concerned marginalized people, especially UM. And
Speaker 1: we see that the myriad of ways not just in
Speaker 1: this violence, UM, but structural in our personal violence as
Speaker 1: well that impact people as well. So thank you to
Speaker 1: the Bills in the NFL, and thank you to to
Speaker 1: Steve Whych and James Palmer. UH. Here on my first
Speaker 1: ever trip on the NFL Inside Report. Hope it was
Speaker 1: good for you guys, and appreciate you guys for spending
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