1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: He literally has the best era of all time. So 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: he's a guy who gets it via the strikeout, but 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: he also limits runs. He's my favorite Dodger of all time. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: I think the greatest picture of this generation. 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Hi, hello, and welcome to another edition, a Thursday edition 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: of Dodger's Territory. I am not Alana Rizzo, She's still 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: on vacation, but I am Clint Pasius. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: I'm usually here. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm usually in that seat, and that seat is filled 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: today by my buddy, my pal, Jeff Spiegel. Of course, 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: you know, the host of Dodger Heads, presented by Dodger 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Blue nineteen fifty eight, right here on the YouTube channel. 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Not much to talk about, h Jeff. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's I like how the Dodgers spread out 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: all the content for us and don't give us three 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: incredible things in one night. 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a couple of incredible things and then 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: one awful thing, big thing to talk about, of course, Muncie, 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Well we'll talk a little bit later in the sho 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: We got to talk about a whole bunch of kersh 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: to start off the show. 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The people that 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: the cash our checks or pay our checks, whatever, would 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: also appreciate if you would help support the show. 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: But with all of that said, we got to. 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Talk about King Kersh presented by our friends at DraftKings. 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: Thank you to DraftKings. This is the DraftKings Player Spotlight 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: and today it is the King Kersh Player Spotlight, powered 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: by DraftKings. 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: We are here to appreciate Jeff. 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 2: We are here to appreciate Clayton Edward Kershaw reaching becoming 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: the twentieth picture to reach the three thousand strikeout. I 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: don't know if it's plateau because he's not done, but 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: we got there, twentieth fourth left hander to do it 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: in the history of game. 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: In the game, I was there. 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Special moment Dodgers. You know, the stadium was everybody was 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: behind every moment. I've never felt so much anxiety, you know, 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: just to watch, like seeing him come out of the 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: dugout in the sixth inning. There was so much that 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: was special about it. What was your vantage point? Where 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: were your thoughts, you know, running through your head of 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: a game that kind of literally had everything. 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had a camera into my house, you 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: would think I was watching a World Series game. I 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: was doing a lot of facing, a lot of crouching, 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: a lot of moving to the back of the room 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: to the front of the room. 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,559 Speaker 4: My daughter's definitely thought I was a psychopath. 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: If they didn't already think that, they were now convinced 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: that I'm a psychopath. It was incredible, and like everybody else, 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't entirely sure they were going to get there, 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: but they did. It was weird because to me, Clint 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I thought Kershaw was actually really good last night. He 60 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: had more swings and misses than he and had in 61 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: any start all season, and yet for some reason just 62 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: couldn't put anybody away. So kudos to Dave Roberts for 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: leaving him in. I thought that strikeout at the end 64 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: of the fifth probably bought him the sixth and then 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: he gets it on the hundredth pitch, his last batter 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: that he faces. So incredible night Kershaw is my all 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: time goat as a Dodgers fan, and. 68 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, last night was huge. 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: That was that was like, genuinely as a fan, an 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: incredible experience to get to watch that. 71 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again being there, I put the phone down. 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: I was all about trying to experience soak it all in. 73 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: I was really hoping and waiting Kershwood would come out 74 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: for whether I get second or third curtain call. But 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Clayton, He's like, I don't really 76 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: feel great about this game. 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: Gave up four runs. 78 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: From my vantage point, it looks like he was struggling 79 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: a little bit. I know, maybe Jim Wolf didn't have 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: the best game behind the plate, but we got there. 81 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: What a story to finally be able to get there. Credit, 82 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Like you had mentioned credit the White Sox as well. 83 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean they were out there hacking. Nobody wanted to 84 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: be that indelible image of you know, three thousand number 85 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: three thousand there And just massive credit to Dave Roberts 86 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: for understanding like a lot of people paid a lot 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: of good money to be out there and watch that. 88 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Get this oute of the way, because it just wouldn't 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: feel the same if it was happening in Milwaukee. You 90 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: gotta get Kershaw getting that moment at home, and we 91 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: got there one hundred percent, got there. The stadium absolutely 92 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: electric when he came back out there in the sixth. 93 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: You know, that was fun. That was a lot of funny. 94 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: Any other little things, any like something that was special 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: about it. Understanding that we've all been watching this dude 96 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: for his entire career eighteen years and knowing that never 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: gonna put a different uniform on. 98 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly it. 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: This is a guy that you know, I'm in my 100 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: mid thirties, so this is somebody I've essentially grown up 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: watching my entire adult life as a Dodger player. And 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: not only is he an incredible baseball player, which I 103 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: will talk about in a second, but just like a 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: guy that you're happy to root for, you know, we 105 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: know his fans that sometimes you sort of have to 106 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: plug your nose a little bit to root for some 107 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: guys for one reason or another. 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: But Kershaw's just the best. 109 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: And there was a video that his family put out 110 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: talking about how for every strikeout he's giving away money 111 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: to help support people in Africa, and for three thousand 112 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: times he's done that is incredible. But as far as 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the picture too, you know, strikeouts is a big number. Obviously, 114 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: that's an important number. 115 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: We've seen. 116 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: Only twenty guys in Major league history have gotten there. 117 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I've made the case I don't think anybody else is 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: going to get there. But the thing about strikeouts, the 119 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: reason we value them is because strikeouts are incredibly helpful 120 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: at preventing the other team from scoring runs. And this 121 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: morning I woke up and I was reminded that Clinton 122 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Kershaw is the greatest picture of the last seventy five 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: years at preventing the other team from scoring runs. So, yes, 124 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: he has three thousand strikeouts, but he's like, I think, 125 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: one of four guys within a sub three era in 126 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: that group, and he literally has the best era of 127 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: all time. So he's a guy who gets it via 128 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: the strikeout, but he also limits runs. He's again my 129 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: favorite Dodger of all time. I think, the greatest picture 130 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: of this generation. I know there's arguments for Verlander or Scherzer, 131 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: but to me, it's Kershaw and absolutely electric to see 132 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: that happen last night. 133 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I I think we talked a little 134 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: bit before the season about like, hey, where does Clayton 135 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: Kershoff fit in this very overstuffed Dodgers starting rotation that 136 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: proved to not be an issue for very long. But 137 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: at the same time, like when they resign, Kershoff's like, 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: what are you going to get out of this dude? 139 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: But now you see him even what I love is 140 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: that when he's having a bad start, he's still able 141 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: to battle and it's. 142 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: Still pretty dang good. Again, I don't. 143 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Qualify last night necessarily as a bad start, but to 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: see him be able to be like a very important piece. 145 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: He is the number two starter like for all intents 146 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: and purposes right now and even now in age sho 147 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: at his age thirty seven season or whatever it is 148 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: he is, he continues to get the job done. And 149 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, thankfully again I'll say it again, he's going 150 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: to ride off into the sunset in. 151 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: A Dodger uniform. 152 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: And right where I was sitting above me at Dodger 153 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: Stadium is where they have all the retired numbers, and 154 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: they panned during the game. 155 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: They did pan all of the retired numbers. There there's 156 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 3: a space. 157 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: There will be a space for twenty two, about five 158 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: years after his playing career is done. 159 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: But props kudos. 160 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: Thank you to Clayton Kershaw for all he's done for 161 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: this team, for all of us, because I like you, 162 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit older than you, forty this year. 163 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: But watch Kershaw. You know, still imagining that that first 164 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: strike out of Sean Casey and spring training at Vero Beach. 165 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: That's how long ago it was. 166 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: He's pitching at Vero Beach up to you know, see 167 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: him get Gray and the beard, see him have as 168 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: many kids as he possibly can to you know, three 169 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: thousand strikeouts and hopefully one more World Series ring by 170 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: the time all of a sudden done at the end 171 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: of this season, and then potentially he's hanging it up. 172 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: But love you Kersh, Thank you, Kirsh and again, thank 173 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: you to everybody who made that day possible. 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Let's dive into the latest with max and 211 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: what happens if he's potentially done for the year on 212 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: Blue Balls. 213 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: A lot of things happen on this show. 214 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: You got to hit the front ends there to make 215 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: it fun, make it exciting, But Jeff, beyond Clayton Kershaw 216 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: and emotionally like exhausting game, and you know, for the 217 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: injury to happen like not even minutes, like a minute 218 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: before or strike out three thousand, it was tough. It 219 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: was definitely a deflating moment for everybody involved. 220 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: It didn't look good. 221 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: Max Months's knee is not supposed to go that way. 222 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: The fact obviously that they didn't even want to show. 223 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: The replay on the SNLA broadcast said something did not 224 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: look I saw in real life. Did not look good, 225 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: look much worse in the replays. Devastating blow. But the 226 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: Dodgers are optimistic. Where are you at with this monthy 227 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: knee injury as of twelve to eleven Pacific time today? 228 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so still no updates on the MRI. 229 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: As it says here from Aldinggonsales, that was going to 230 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: be happening today. 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: Dave said he was optimistic. We joked. 232 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: I think every Dodgers fan just filters out the word 233 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: optimistic and hopeful when Dave Roberts uses it regarding injuries, 234 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: because how could they possibly know anything in such a 235 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: short amount of time. I am not optimistic. I would 236 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: say I'm pessimistic. I think anybody who saw that replay 237 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: would be pessimistic. Best case scenario for Munsie to me 238 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: feels like to eight weeks worst case scenario done for 239 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the season. 240 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: So I think this is a big. 241 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Deal because Max Munsey when he left the lineup a 242 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: year ago, Klant was a massive difference maker. The Dodgers 243 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: offense almost immediately slumped from when Munsey left the lineup. 244 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: They do not have I mean they have obvious replacements. 245 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: Keiky Hernandez comes to mind first. I wouldn't say they 246 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: have obvious compelling replacement plans for Max Munsey necessarily, and 247 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: so do I think this is going to torpedo the 248 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Dodgers season? 249 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: No, But do I think this is going to make 250 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: a dent? Absolutely? 251 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 252 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask about, like we know the internal options. 253 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: Of course, immediately, Estuary Ruiz is coming up from Triple A. 254 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: We know Max is about an hour and a half 255 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: away from hitting the injured list officially, but he is 256 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: done for at least today, at least the next ten days, 257 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: maybe best case scenario a month. But I mean, gut 258 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: tells me, you know, they're trying to eye wash this. 259 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: They want us to feel good, not really Sully the 260 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: three things night by saying, oh this. 261 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: Is optimistic whatever. 262 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: Maybe he's he's gonna be okay, but no, we're gonna 263 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: be without Max Munsey for a while. And like I said, 264 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: that is like you said, it is a big blow 265 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: to the lineup because he was pretty much the heart 266 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: and soul of the middle of the lineup right now, 267 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: him and Andy Pater has helping out quickly. I had 268 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: your tweet up there. For the folks that aren't paying 269 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: attention as much down at Triple A, what can you 270 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: tell them about what ruiz well first is big league 271 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: career a little bit, but also what he's done for 272 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: the Dodgers at Triple A level and what hopefully we 273 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: could expect out of him for however long he's up here. 274 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, came over the beginning of the season known as 275 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: a speedy center fielder. I would say defense was not 276 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: a plus necessarily, that bat was the question mark, and 277 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers acquired him, they sent him to Triple A. 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Beginning of the season, I would say was kind of fine. 279 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: It's a hitters environment down in Triple A, so anytime 280 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: you see numbers you kind of have to dig in 281 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: a little bit and say what's real and what's you know, 282 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: like bad pitching and high altitude here. But Ruiz as 283 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: the tweet showed like he's been on fire for the 284 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: last month or so. Ops, over nine hundred home runs 285 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and back to back games. So what does all that mean? 286 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like he's still not going to solve 287 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: any problems defensively in centerfield. I'm terrified of the idea 288 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: of confordo Estuary Ruiz, and Taoscar Hernandez sharing an outfield 289 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: together at some point. Although he has speed, I don't 290 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a ton there. So I was 291 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: surprised it was him, just because I don't know, like 292 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: what actually he provides to them that they don't already 293 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: have in some form or fashion. I thought maybe they 294 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: would go Alex Freeland, a guy who can give them 295 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: depth in the infield. Maybe they would go James Outman 296 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: and just say, hey, Autman, all you're going to do 297 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: is come into the game in seventh inning when we 298 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: need a defensive player to stand in between some guys 299 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: who aren't very good out there. 300 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: But they up for Ruiz. I imagine this is a 301 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: short term. 302 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: Thing that he's not going to play a whole lot, 303 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: but he has been hot offensively of late, so maybe 304 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: they tapped into something with the guy, as the Dodgers' 305 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: player development has been prone to do. 306 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you mentioned Outman. That was an 307 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: initial guy. 308 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be Outman just because he's 309 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: there on the forty man. To be fair, I forgot 310 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: Ruiz was on the forty man, and that's what's tough 311 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: for Alex Freeland him not being on the forty man 312 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: yet unless I'm wrong about that, but you confirm they 313 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: don't really have, as we know, a lot of forty 314 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: man roster spots to play with. So I guess for 315 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: now you definitely assume Kik is getting the Lion's share 316 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: of playing time at third base, Mickey Roll gets some 317 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: opportunities in there, maybe Tommy Edmund, maybe Hessan Kim if 318 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: they just decided to be a little crazy. Alex Freeland 319 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: obviously he started the season very nice. He's kind of 320 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: like tapered and sort of had a perfectly fine season. 321 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: If they stay the internal. 322 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: Route, because I do want to talk about some external options, 323 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: some trade options as we both sit here fully being 324 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: aware it's it's a high. It's very highly unlikely Max 325 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: Muntsey's playing third base for this team in September and 326 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: into the postseason, so you're gonna need a there is 327 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: Alex Freeland. Could he finally be an answer for this 328 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: team or maybe even like a let's go Cody Hosey, 329 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: who's just sort of wasting away at Triple A at 330 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: this point. 331 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. 332 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: We just before coming on, I recorded with Bill Plunkett 333 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: of the Orange County Register, and he said they like 334 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Alex Freeland. He doesn't necessarily think that Freeland is going 335 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: to be an option. 336 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: I will be curious. 337 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: I think if Munsey does get moved to the sixty 338 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: day il, which would take him off of the forty 339 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: man roster, I think that would be the time and 340 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: place when Alex Freeland might come up. 341 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: It would open up a spot on the forty man. 342 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: Freeland's going to need to be added by the end 343 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: of the season anyway, So I think if Munsey is 344 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: done for the year, or at least sixty days, then 345 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: maybe Freeland becomes an option. 346 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: You mention it. 347 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: He's been fine. 348 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I think he's like an eight to fifty ops guy 349 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: down at triple A, which sounds great, but it's triple A, 350 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: so it's not amazing. More walks than strikeouts in the 351 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: month of June nine hundred ops. So he's been fine there. 352 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: But I personally would love to see him get a runway. 353 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: You've got a massive lead in the vision. It's July. 354 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Give him a month see what he has. See if 355 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: this is a guy who can be the short term answer. 356 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: He's maxed out at tripa A. But this just isn't 357 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: typically how the Dodgers have operated with hesseng Cam, even 358 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: with Andy Paies last year, so I'm skeptical they would 359 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: do that. I think their default is Keiky Hernandez Miguel 360 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Rojas figure it out from there. But if it were me, 361 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: I would love to see Alex Freeland given you know, 362 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: four to six weeks to figure this thing out. 363 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see maybe like a post trade deadline 364 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: if they don't make a move, I could see Friedland 365 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: maybe getting a little bit of that runway, especially you know, 366 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: maybe Kei k Or or Mickey Row don't really take 367 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: a strangle hold of the position. But you know, I 368 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: really wasn't expecting to be having to talk three you know, 369 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: three B trade options. But I did put together a 370 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: little bit of sheet with the help of an intern 371 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: here in foul Foul Territory. Thank you to Henry for 372 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: some of the names here, which a few of them 373 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: I love. 374 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: But let's look at options. 375 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: I already seen in the chat people mentioning in Ellen Aernaudo. 376 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: Look, it's not happy. 377 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: The first name you're gonna hear, I know it in 378 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: the chat. The first name you're getting is Eronado. 379 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: People want to say Elan Aernado, It's not gonna happen, 380 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: and like, one, he's not great. Two the cards are 381 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: in it right now, so that's something I think they're 382 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: they're tied for like a wild card spot or they're 383 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: very close to a wild card spot. But see that 384 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: these are some of the names that I don't know 385 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: if these are sexy names or not. Of course, Bregman 386 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: on the il for Boston, but the Red Sox are 387 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: kind of going nowhere, and they traded their third basement 388 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: kind of with the intention of keeping Alex Bregman around, 389 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, Austin Riley on there. I just I don't 390 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: see the Braves trading away Ryan McMahon and Suarez, like 391 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: you know what, they're not gonna trade to the Dodger's 392 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: not gonna trade sorry, the Rockies and the Diamondbacks are 393 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: not going to trade in division. But that last name, 394 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez, Jay Ram. Let's talk a little Jay ram 395 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: and Dodger Blue. He's got what three years left on 396 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: his deal plus whatever's left of this year. Cleveland kind 397 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: of out of it right now. The four games back 398 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: in the wild Card. What do you think do you 399 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: think of the Dodgers, do you think this front office 400 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: could pull some some trade deadline magic could make Jay 401 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: ram you know, a possibility for the Dodgers. 402 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting because so Max Munsey's contract. For those unfamiliar, 403 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: he has a team option for next year, which seemed 404 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: like a foregun conclusion would be picked up. I think 405 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: it's like ten or twelve million dollars, so it's a 406 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: very affordable number. However, if he were to be out 407 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: for the season and then coming back from some major 408 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: knee surgery, I think that makes things interesting. You mentioned 409 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: some of the names down at tripa A. There is 410 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: not an obvious long term answer at third base at 411 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: the top of the minor league system. Alex Freeland is 412 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: probably the long term shortstop plan. If Mookie Bets ever 413 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: moves over to second base, Tommy Edmond can play center field, 414 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: has Sung Kim as sort of a utility guy, so 415 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: I think third base is open. So a guy like 416 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: Ramirez would make some sense. You mentioned it's going to 417 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: be expensive. He's one of the best players in Major 418 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: League baseball. I love Jose Ramirez. He's one of my 419 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: favorite players in Major League baseball. That's not a Dodger. 420 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: I love that he's a little guy who just absolutely 421 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: smashes the ball. I love that he's incredibly consistent. I 422 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: think he seems like a joyful guy, a positive guy 423 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: to be around. Tascar Hernandez vibes just the way that 424 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: I see other players interacting with him. And so look, 425 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: if the Dodgers wanted to make a move and could 426 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: figure something out, I don't know if I would want 427 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: to be like dipping into the position player prospects that 428 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have down in the lower levels levels the 429 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Josely Depaula Zayre Hope types, because I just think the 430 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: ceiling on those guys is so high. I'm trying not 431 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: to be a prospect hugger, but I think if you 432 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: can sort of focus primarily on maybe trading away some 433 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: of position, maybe pitching depth that they have at the 434 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: upper miners, and get there, I think he could be intriguing. 435 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: So I think the Dodgers will kick the tires. It 436 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: feels a little ambitious. It feels like Cleveland would have 437 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: to be blown away to move off of him. And so, yeah, 438 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: I have one other that I can throw out there 439 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: that is not going to excite anybody in the wake 440 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: of a Jose Ramirez conversation. But the name that I 441 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: saw just as someone who might be available that caught 442 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: my attention was Luis Renhifo of the Angels. Now, would 443 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: the Angels trade with the Dodgers, Maybe that counts as 444 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: a divisional team that would never do it. Who knows, 445 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: but we know the Dodgers have gone after Rehnhufo before 446 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: he was in the fame falling apart Jock Peterson Ross 447 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: stripling trade from a million years ago. The last two seasons, 448 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: he's been a one to sixteen weighted Ren's created plus guy. 449 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: He plays all over the infield, so he can be 450 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of a utility guy, not great defensively. But if 451 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: the Dodgers basically look, I think at their internal options 452 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: and say Freeland isn't ready, Rojas isn't good enough, kik A, 453 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: we want to be able to flex and move all 454 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: over the place. I wonder if frand Heifo, as a 455 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: guy who's going to be a free agent at the 456 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: end of the year, could just be sort of this 457 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: temporary stop gap. Wouldn't cost them a ton, wouldn't cost 458 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: them any of their top prospects. So again, that's not 459 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: a sexy name, but it feels like to me that 460 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: would be an up great over Rojas and Kike, even 461 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: though he's having a bad year this year. 462 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: That's my view. 463 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair, and he would assume like a change of 464 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: scenery would would help him out a little bit. Problem is, 465 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he seems to be pretty rang Giefo. That 466 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: is seems to be pretty uh, you know, an important 467 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: piece of a weird kind of not awful angels lineup. 468 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: But still and and we know Artie is an idiot. 469 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to trade, you know, get any sort 470 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: of prospects or anything like that. 471 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: I love the idea of a stop gap. 472 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm I'm at a point where obviously I'm coming very 473 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: out of pocket here throwing Jay Ram out there. But 474 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: that's where I'm looking something you had mentioned like if 475 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: if Max is out, like he has to have knee surgery, 476 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: it's not like he's coming back for opening Day next year, 477 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: and it's not like they're gonna be able to plug 478 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: him in and he's gonna be perfect at third base 479 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: by even All Star break. This is this is a 480 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: very long process. Again, there's no news. I'm seeing people 481 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: asking in the chat, it's like, is there news. There's 482 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: no news on Maxied He's still undergoing testing. I take 483 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm airing on the side of less optimism than the 484 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: organization is, and I'm looking at like you mentioned, Jeff, 485 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: there are no clear, obvious answers and options for the 486 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: third base position for this team. 487 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: They have a lot of talent. 488 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: As much as I would hate to see you know, 489 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: a Zire Hope or you know, Jackson Ferris or whatever. 490 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Locke like these type of dudes, some of the top 491 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: ten prospects move. If you're able to get one of 492 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: the best third basemen in baseball one of the best 493 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: hitters in baseball, you can play at third, play them 494 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: at second, whatever makes the most sense for your team. 495 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: You know, a couple of years down the road, the 496 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: contract isn't crazy. Twenty one million zeroe next year, twenty three, 497 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: in twenty seven, and in twenty twenty eight only twenty 498 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: five million dollars. I mean, that's that's kind of chump change. 499 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: When you're talking about the Los Angeles Dodgers, and you 500 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: immediately improve at third base for in a season where 501 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: you're trying to run it back to back. But again 502 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: with no obvious third base options just pounding down the 503 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: door or even gently tapping or ringing a doorbell. It's 504 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: like they need somebody to be a long term solution 505 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: because even so as much as like we love Max, 506 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: like he is on the wrong side of thirty now, 507 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna be the option for the next you know, 508 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: until twenty twenty eight either way. So they this is 509 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers. They have the prospect capital to 510 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: make a j Ram move happen. I think it's it's 511 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: really about whether or not Cleveland is interested in kind 512 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: of officially starting a rebuild, because they've probably really needed 513 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: a true rebuild for a while. We weak Ale Central 514 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: and they're still you know, a number of games out, 515 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: a number of games behind the uh whoever's leading there 516 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: in the Central right now, I forget at the moments again, 517 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: who cares about the Al Central Tigers. That's right, duh, 518 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: They're the one, the other good team in baseball. They 519 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: got no shot, they got no shot. Just trade j Ram, 520 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: make him a Dodger. Everybody's happy, and then when months 521 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: he's back and healthy, he could be on the bench. 522 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: You got some sock you can play around a little bit, 523 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, spelling we lost a second there, spelling, you know, 524 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: Freddie at first, some third base, second base and all 525 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And I am that's where I'm at. 526 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: That's I push my chips in. If I'm the front office, 527 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: I push my chips in trying to make a Jose 528 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: ramiro'z a deal happened. Now, People in the chat understandably 529 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: like it's gonna. 530 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: Cost a lot. I don't see it happening. A lot 531 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: of things need to. 532 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: Break the right way for the Dodgers to make this 533 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: move happening, or to make this move happen. 534 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: But I think they can't. I really do think they can. Yeah. 535 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Well, and he plays a solid defensive third base as well, 536 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: which is worth pointing out. So you'd be upgrading offensively 537 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: even as well as Max Mounts he had been playing. 538 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: You'd be upgrading defensively as well. And I mean, he's 539 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: a superstar. And I think the point you made about 540 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: the cost, like twenty to twenty five million dollars a 541 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: year for three years is absolutely nothing, especially if this 542 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: guy was on the free agent market. You know, if 543 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: you wanted to design him to a three year deal, 544 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: you'd be talking like fifty million dollars a year, probably 545 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: on that short of a deal. So I'd love Jose 546 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Ramirez would be thrilled if they were able to pull 547 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: it off. I just don't know if they if they 548 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: go all in in that way, I guess is the 549 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: best way of putting it. 550 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I'm I'm being This is me being, you know, 551 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: very optimistic and hopeful and you know, maybe I'm I'm 552 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: drunk at almost twelve thirty in the afternoon here on 553 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: a Thursday. But the Dodgers need some help and we're hoping, Hey, 554 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: we're hoping. Francisco had left a super chat earlier in 555 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: the show saying, you know, pessimistic with Munzie's knee, but 556 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: there's also a reason to be hopeful that it is 557 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: just a sprain. But that still takes some time to 558 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: come back from that. 559 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: So well, we'll wait. 560 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: This this was me just just going all in on 561 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: trades right now. We'll we'll have some fun with that 562 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: and still hope for the best, remax, because this team absolutely. 563 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Would you would you accept Alex Bregman as a member 564 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: of the Dodgers if he was willing to be If 565 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: the Red Sox were willing to trade him. 566 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't. 567 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't know that his his swing profile is great 568 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium for what it is, but with the 569 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: whole cheating scandal and all that, Like, I'm in this 570 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: to win, and if he is, somebody who makes a 571 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: team better, plays a very good, you know, defense at third, 572 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: has anything left in the bat? Again, he started very 573 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: well playing in Boston, but that's a park that's kind 574 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: of built for his his swing, just peppering things off 575 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: of the monster out there in left field. But I 576 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: don't know that the Red Sox are very interested in 577 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: doing another big trade with the Dodgers. 578 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's fair. 579 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: It has not worked out well for them. 580 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: No, it hasn't. Yeah, Bregman's an interesting one. 581 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: Again. 582 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: There's some speculation he might be available if they can't 583 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: get him to a long term deal, since he's got 584 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: player options from here on out. But ye, I think 585 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: a very conflicted Dodger fan base if Alex Bregman were 586 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: to become available, that's for sure. 587 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: Hell no to Bregman, says Kenny Chung. 588 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: Guys, quickly, we got a couple more things we wanted 589 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: to talk about, but we're gonna be back after a 590 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: word from our friends at foul. 591 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 6: Building a hair growth routine is easy only if you 592 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 6: go with neutrofol. 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She's, 619 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: you know, very much a rescue right now and they're 620 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: trying to nurse Morgan back to health. And what Gidry's 621 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: Guardian is looking for is some help. Anything with donations, 622 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: anything going to the website, if you have food, if 623 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: you have treats, toys, all of that kind of stuff. 624 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: Every little thing helps. 625 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: Like even Alana says, ten dollars goes a long way 626 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: and helping out Gidrey'sguardian dot org. 627 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: It is all, yeah, it's all. It's funded by everybody, 628 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: you know. 629 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: Like she tries not to go too crazy putting a 630 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: lot of money out of her pocket, but she does 631 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: put a lot of money. 632 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: Out of her pocket to help take care of the pups. 633 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: But I just want to make sure everybody knows Kidres 634 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: needs your help, Morgan needs your help, and we appreciate 635 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: a lot. And she will be back on Monday, by 636 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: the way, doing a lot of things, co hosting foul 637 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: Territory as well. But before we go, Jeff, there was 638 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: one last Kershaw thing I wanted to look at, and 639 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: you and I were talking just before going live. I 640 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: loved this graphic MLB put out with all of the 641 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: catchers who have caught Clayton Kershaw who have caught at 642 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: least one strikeout, Dalton rushing all the way at the 643 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: bottom there with two k's. But who's your favorite name 644 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: or like the oh yeah name that popped out on 645 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: this list. 646 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, there's a couple people on here I 647 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: don't remember as human beings that played baseball for the Dodgers, 648 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: So apologies to Ramoan Hernandez and Danny Ardwine leg but 649 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: Diowner Navarro Dianner Navarro was the name that jumped out 650 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: to me. I don't know why I vividly remember him. 651 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: I believe acquired into trade with the Rays. If I'm 652 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: not mistaken, one hundred and six strike keys Yankees. Maybe 653 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: you're right. I think, yeah, so there you go. Shows 654 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: how little I remember Deowner Navarro. But shout out to 655 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Deowner Navarro. 656 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: His name was on this graphic. 657 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: That's that's what we're looking for. 658 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: We're very proud of you De Owner for showing up 659 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: and being somebody that played baseball. I mean, he was 660 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: supposed to be the future until I think it was 661 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: like a knee or a hip inch some some sort 662 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: of injury paved the way to uh Russell Martin getting 663 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: becoming the starting catcher for the team for a good 664 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: amount of time. The name that I really loved, and 665 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: I even said it was just the very very random 666 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: Matt trainer in there. Also shout out Danny Ardwan being 667 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: in there just existing. Tim Federovitch, who's now back with 668 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: the organization, uh In like an roving instructor role. I think, whatever, 669 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of people helped kersh 670 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: get to the three thousand strikeout mark, and hopefully we 671 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: keep on going. 672 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: Let's get the four thousand cursh It ain't gonna happen. 673 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: It's definitely not gonna happen. But guys appreciate you hanging 674 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: out with us. 675 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: I very much appreciate Jeff joining me here on Dodgers territory. 676 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: I think we officially kicked off trade season today, by 677 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: the way, so hopefully people will all start going wild 678 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: with Jay Ram trade chatter and all that. But guys 679 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: make sure well, yeah, I'll roll all out the red 680 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: card for you. Tell people where to find you if 681 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: for some reason they don't already know. 682 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 683 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Dodger Blue nineteen fifty eight On YouTube, I host the 684 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: Dodgerhead Show. We're live Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays. We had 685 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: a special one last night, but we'll be live tonight 686 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: myself and brizecon, so you can head over tonight if 687 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: you're looking for more content. I'm sure Clinton and his 688 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: crew will be live tonight as well, so you can 689 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: join us again. Dodger Blue nineteen fifty eight. And then 690 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm at Jeff Spiegel on Twitter as well. 691 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate you, Jeffy. 692 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: I'll be live on my channel the second we hear 693 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: anything any new news about Max Mounsey. That's the plan 694 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: over all, Dodgers do check it out. But guys, thank 695 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: you for watching, Thank you for hanging out with us. 696 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: We appreciate you don't forget Dodgers Territory has merch Go 697 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: help support the show if you can. If you can't, 698 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: the best way to support shows leave it, like subscribe 699 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: to the channel bright and review the podcast, all of 700 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But other than that, I'll be 701 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: back on Monday. Alana will be back on Monday, and 702 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: we'll see you then. 703 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: Bye.