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Speaker 1: Everybody, Welcome to Between the Horns. Happy Valentine's Day. It

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Speaker 1: is February fourteenth, twenty nineteen. It's still I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's registered to me that we were in year twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen because we were like in the twenty eighteen season

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Speaker 1: for so long. Anyway, I'm Miles Simmons. Across the table

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Speaker 1: from me, is DeMarco falls up. Hey, how many checks

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Speaker 1: do you write? How many checks? Are you all online?

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Speaker 1: Or I am a lot of online? Yeah? Are you? So?

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Speaker 1: I don't really write. I don't really write any checks

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Speaker 1: a month. I think I write like two or three

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Speaker 1: checks a month, and I still put twenty eighteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I have to stop and remind myself it is

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So I'll see where you're going. Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: because it's been the twenty eighteen season until like literally

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Speaker 1: a week ago, basically pretty much. Yeah, fun, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's the way it should be, exactly. I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: I liked working through February. But now we are approaching

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen off season, and so we also have

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Speaker 1: a full list of the Rams free agents, and so

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Speaker 1: that's where we will start our off season discussion. No doubt.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, if less need what can you do for

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Speaker 1: an encore? Last off season was fun, it was last

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Speaker 1: March was great. I wonder if can you do it again?

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Speaker 1: Will he do it again? Does he have to do

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Speaker 1: it again? Well, that's the thing I mean about this

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Speaker 1: time last year, we started getting the reports of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Rams have traded for Keep to leave, the Rams

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Speaker 1: have traded for Marcus Peters, and we couldn't talk about them, right, right,

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Speaker 1: that's true because that's because it's tampering. And so it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, a couple of days ago, or was this yesterday?

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Speaker 1: The Broncos traded for Joe Flacco? Was that yesterday? Yeah? Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: what the hell is Alway doing? I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the hell is Alway doing? Really, Flacco, haven't you watched

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Speaker 1: the last four years? Look, you know what It's funny

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Speaker 1: because we remember when we were in Denver and you said,

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Speaker 1: Case Keenum is like number thirty two, thirty two starting quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Did I say thirty two always going to be replaced

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Speaker 1: pretty much? Or thirty three? Right? Unfortunately? And like that's

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk bad about Case because Case

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Speaker 1: is a good guy who was good to us. But like,

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Speaker 1: I just think that that's very interesting. You know, like

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Speaker 1: case Keenum is the guy that you have there and

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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, he's fine, but then you always want

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Speaker 1: to replace him. I'm not trying to diss the guy,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's had enough chances. He is who

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Speaker 1: he is. I mean, I'm not dissing the guy. I

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Speaker 1: love the man, love the family man, I love his family,

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Speaker 1: But I mean we're talking about his play. I think

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Speaker 1: play is fair game. You agree, and pretty much every

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Speaker 1: single year, if you put forth replaceable stats, then you

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Speaker 1: will be replaced. Right. There's nothing that's we're speaking out

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Speaker 1: of school about, right. I know I don't think right,

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Speaker 1: but that's yeah, but that's exactly. Yeah. So you have

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Speaker 1: those elements going on, and there probably will be more

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Speaker 1: trades and we'll see if the Rams do or do

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Speaker 1: not make one that we can't talk about until the

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Speaker 1: new league year. On March thirteenth, No, I was reading

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Speaker 1: about the Redskins going at it again. They're probably going

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Speaker 1: to draft another quarterback this year. I've got to and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, it's nice to live on this side

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Speaker 1: of that. Oh yeah, when you actually have one that's developing.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Now that's going to get better. Well,

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Speaker 1: the unfortunate thing with Washington, I mean, Alex Smith's leg

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Speaker 1: is leaped up. How many times have you seen that video?

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Speaker 1: Not too many, because I can't watch that. I love violence,

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Speaker 1: I love combat sports, but I can't watch that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I can't watch a guy having his leg broken. I

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Speaker 1: just that that discussed me. It really turns my stomach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the sight of blood doesn't bother me, love it, but

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Speaker 1: horrible watching. It's hard to watch. And then you see

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith and he's still got this cast and it's

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Speaker 1: got pins in the cast. Yeah, keeping the legs stabilized

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Speaker 1: and so hard counting. Well, you you hope that for

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Speaker 1: the man, You hope that. You know he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all right, no doubt, no doubt. But as the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: well you know that's the problem over there on the

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Speaker 1: East coast. But you know, right now, the Rims are

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Speaker 1: going to have twenty two total free agents, so twelve unrestricted,

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Speaker 1: four restricted, and six exclusive rights free agents. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through I'll just go through them all.

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Speaker 1: Read the list why do they even say exclusive rights

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Speaker 1: but you can't negotiate but just one team, correct, So

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Speaker 1: you're an exclusive rights, non contract something right. Free agent.

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Speaker 1: Free agent is good? Yes, exclusive rights not so much. Right.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go through the list and then i'll, I

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Speaker 1: guess I'll explain a little more about what each of

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Speaker 1: those things are in case if people don't know. So

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Speaker 1: the twelve unrestricted free agents got Sean Manyon, LaMarcus Joyner,

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Speaker 1: C J Anderson, Sam Shields, Remique Wilson, Bryce Hager, Dante Fowler,

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Speaker 1: Roger Saffold, Dominique Easley, Donkins, Sue, Ethan Westbrooks, and Matt Longacre.

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Speaker 1: I know the guys I want back already, all right, Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's start with all of them. Hold, okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: So you got four restricted free agents. That's safety Blake Countess,

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Speaker 1: So so your restrictive frogents. And so then the exclusive

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Speaker 1: rights free agents who are not really free. So if

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Speaker 1: you're an exclusive of rights free agent. Basically, it's the

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Speaker 1: RAMS will be able to sign you. They are the

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Speaker 1: now we don't want you. You You can go wherever you want. Right.

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Speaker 1: So those six guys are Kadarrel Hodge, Joejoe Natsen, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Peterson cornerback. You may remember tours ACL all the way

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Speaker 1: back in training camp, Dominique Hatfield cornerback, and then outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Sickles also suffered a season ending injury, and defensive

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Speaker 1: end Morgan Fox, who tours ACL back in OTAs and

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Speaker 1: he was, yeah, I like him too. That's supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: He's not injured, right, I want to say he was okay.

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Speaker 1: At one point he was in the too deep and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he wasn't right. It's funny

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Speaker 1: how that happens. Yes, So again, I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: It's just twenty two. It's a lot of names. It's

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Speaker 1: not too many, that's just twenty two. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: some sound of Roger Saffile talking about his contract situation

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Speaker 1: and the way he sees it and the way you know,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he does want to be back. So

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Speaker 1: let's toss to that right now. UM. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: there will be conversations in the near future, but at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, definitely not how

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Speaker 1: I wanted to end in my possible last game with

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Speaker 1: me and my family and uh, you know wherever that

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Speaker 1: path may lead. You know, there's no ill will to

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Speaker 1: course I've said that. I've said that all throughout the year,

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Speaker 1: so I don't think that it's any surprise that people

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Speaker 1: know that I want to be back. At the end

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Speaker 1: use and feel feel that I was treated fair. So DEMRCA,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about what Saffile

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Speaker 1: had to say that I think he's exactly right. Um

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Speaker 1: do I want him back? Absolutely do. I think he's

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Speaker 1: football team. Out of doubt. Now, everything he said is

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Speaker 1: So you have to get every dollar you can, every

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Speaker 1: but if it's close, I do value your place on

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Speaker 1: some other team is going to value him. They could

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Speaker 1: overvalue him. You have to run and take that if

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Speaker 1: you're a businessman. But I think everybody in this room

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Speaker 1: Saffold back on the field next season. Absolutely. I totally

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Speaker 1: the Rams is bringing Roger saffold back and you don't

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Speaker 1: That's got to be a priority for him. And look,

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Speaker 1: people he's what two three years removed from being mister versatility. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Who's going to offer the most for his services? And

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Speaker 1: he's earned it. I think he deserves it. Well. Not

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Speaker 1: only that, I mean he feels comfortable here. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: you know, you think about the guys who win. Sean

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Speaker 1: mcvagh came in. They really bought into it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think about him, and I think about Michael Brocker's

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Speaker 1: make sure that happened. No doubt, it's not just buying in, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to assimilate, you have to get better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to compete. This guy that's coming

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Speaker 1: the guy can play. I think he has gone against

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald more than anyone probably, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: become better because of it. If you can get your

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Speaker 1: hands on Aaron, you can get your hands on anybody. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's what we talked about going into last season

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Speaker 1: before he was traded. M Yeah, yes exactly, um or

427
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Speaker 1: let go excuse us, and then New York picked him up.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that that is just an interesting

429
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Speaker 1: option that's out there because now so Rob Havenstein, if

430
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Speaker 1: you remember, he signed that that extension right before the season,

431
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Speaker 1: so he is going to be with the team you know,

432
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Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. You have a guy in Austin

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Speaker 1: blythe who I thought got better over the course of

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Speaker 1: the year. And yes, I mean he did not play

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Speaker 1: his best game in the Super Bowl. He even said

436
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Speaker 1: that to me when we were talking in the locker

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Speaker 1: room after. But I think, you know, that's another guy

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Speaker 1: that is young and that can keep ascending. You know,

439
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Speaker 1: John Sullivan is another guy who's getting up there. He's

440
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Speaker 1: a little bit older. He's got another year on his

441
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Speaker 1: contract though, getting up there. Well, he's up there. I know,

442
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Speaker 1: he's not as old as Andrew Whitworth's. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's another year, no doubt. Yeah, right, right, So

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Speaker 1: just you have a younger side of the right off

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Speaker 1: right side of the offensive line, and I think you

446
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Speaker 1: will obviously get younger eventually on the left side. But

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Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of you know, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a free agent out there, and if there's a

449
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Speaker 1: free agent out there, I should say, and that's somebody

450
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Speaker 1: that already knows your offense, you can bring them back.

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Speaker 1: That's it's something that's kind of a track, no doubt needed,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, And there could be some other guys out

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Speaker 1: there that fit your offense a little bit better along

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Speaker 1: the line. True, because, like you said, when you go

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Speaker 1: and look at last season and you hit that rough

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Speaker 1: patch towards the middle week, like after the bye, way,

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Speaker 1: to me, it's because the offensive line got a little

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Speaker 1: banged up and tired. I agree. Now, imagine a bunch

459
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Speaker 1: of young guys that don't get tired, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven year olds that just

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Speaker 1: can keep going forever, that that are just hitting their prime.

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Speaker 1: So perhaps maybe and this is a big maybe, maybe

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Speaker 1: the offense can get better or it just doesn't have

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Speaker 1: that drop off, you know, due to fatigue and age. Yes, yeah, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, let's turn it to the defensive side.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the ball because there's some skipped over manion. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna talk. I was gonna keep talking about starters.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you want to talk about Sean man I mean, look,

469
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Speaker 1: he's one hit away from being out there, he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your backup is just as important as your starter. Yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially a quarterback that puts himself puts himself

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Speaker 1: in harm's way like Jared does when he does scramble,

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Speaker 1: when he does those red nakeds or boot nakeds. He's

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Speaker 1: out there by himself. You know, he took a beating

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, he did. Yeah, I mean one

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Speaker 1: of those could have been the one that puts Mannion

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Speaker 1: in the game. So it's very very important we talk

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Speaker 1: about the backup, don't you think? No, that's fair. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think part of the interesting thing with a Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay offense is that there aren't necessarily that many VET

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks out there that would be able to step in

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Speaker 1: and know it right away. So one of them would

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Speaker 1: be Colton McCoy that he's still under contract in Washington,

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Speaker 1: and especially given the way their quarterback situation is, which

485
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Speaker 1: we touched on at the top of the show, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Colt McCoy is going anywhere. I mean, in

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Speaker 1: some ways, you know, maybe a VET like Brian Hoyer

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Speaker 1: would be decent. Oh yeah, oh yeah, still around Because

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Speaker 1: did you read the article. I mean this was in

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Speaker 1: I think sports. Yeah, you know, he watched the detail

491
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Speaker 1: thing and then he also watched some other stuff and

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Speaker 1: he's like, I know this offense, and then that's apparently

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Speaker 1: how the Patriots got so well prepared for this. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't bring him into the locker room just yet. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: with that knowledge, or at least keep him with the

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Speaker 1: offense then yes, yeah, or no, keep him away from

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Speaker 1: the offense, keep him away from the keep him away

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Speaker 1: from the offense. Um. Yeah. John Gruden comes to mind

499
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Speaker 1: when he flopped teams from Oakland to Tampa. Yeah, and

500
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Speaker 1: then gave Tampa everything he knew about Oakland and they

501
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Speaker 1: just annihilated him in the Super Bowl exactly. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: might need to keep that separate for a little while. Sure, well,

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Speaker 1: then that would mean you wouldn't watch Sean Mangon going

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Speaker 1: to somebody right right, which you could possibly happen in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But I mean, like Sean mangan could

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Speaker 1: go to someplace like Cincinnati and back up for Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton because you know Zach Taylor's there, Or he could

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Speaker 1: go to Green Bay and back up somebody like Aaron Rotters,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, he's got an arm and that arm will travel,

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Speaker 1: and he's smart enough to pick up what how many

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Speaker 1: offenses so far? At least two? Four offense three? Three?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me three? Saspis McVey who's the McVey signetti signetti? Yes?

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Speaker 1: In fifteen smart enough to battle it out, does remain

514
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Speaker 1: on a football team and pick up three offenses? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: m either he's gonna wind up starting someplace at some point,

516
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Speaker 1: or he's gonna be an offensive coordinator when he's done.

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Speaker 1: I compared him to Derek Anderson once, when I do

518
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Speaker 1: remember Derek. Yeah, that's who I kind of compare Sean

519
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Speaker 1: man into because Derek Anderson's guy that's been around in

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Speaker 1: the league for a long long time, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're both Oregon State quarterbacks. Again, rocket arms Sean Sean

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Speaker 1: Mayne can stick around this league for long. Well, I

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Speaker 1: hope he performs a little bit better when he gets

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Speaker 1: his shot sure than Anderson. Yeah, yeah, who knows though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only one who knows to play him,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to find out because that would

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Speaker 1: I'd rather see Jared play, Yes, exactly, all right, So

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Speaker 1: now we will turn it where you've got safety LaMarcus Joyner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and last, don't wind up in San France. Please don't

530
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Speaker 1: wind up in this division, Okay, if not here right? Well,

531
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Speaker 1: because last year he was tagged, you know, if he

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Speaker 1: had that franchise tag that brought him back and the

533
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Speaker 1: Rams did want to sign him to at least a

534
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Speaker 1: couple a longer term deal. They just couldn't give anything

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Speaker 1: worked out. At least it's my understanding of it. And

536
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Speaker 1: so I'm interested to see what happens here because honestly,

537
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see the Rams franchise tagging him for

538
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Speaker 1: a second time, do you. I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: I mean it would surprise a lot of people because

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Speaker 1: you would say, the numbers that he's going to be

541
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Speaker 1: paid doesn't match his production. So I think you have

542
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Speaker 1: to look beyond the box score to find his value

543
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Speaker 1: to a football team. So it might look bad to

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Speaker 1: some people outside of the building, like outside of the

545
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Speaker 1: defensive meeting room. Yes, it might seem like, wow, that's

546
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Speaker 1: too much for a guy that doesn't really give you much.

547
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Speaker 1: But if you're in that room and you sit next

548
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Speaker 1: to Wade Phillips, he can explain to you exactly what

549
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Speaker 1: he brings to the defense and how important he is. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think part of it is that you know, teams

551
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Speaker 1: a lot for much of the season did not attack

552
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Speaker 1: the Rams down the middle, and so like there were

553
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Speaker 1: a couple games where I don't remember if it was

554
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Speaker 1: John Johnson or whatever, I think like said to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, LaMarcus came back and said, you know, I've

556
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Speaker 1: enjoyed watching that game. Yeah, right, because there wasn't much

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. I think that was after the Cardinals game.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, because like really in the Cardinals game,

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Speaker 1: Laarcus Jordan really had nothing to do because they like

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Speaker 1: that first one, I should say, in week two where

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford through for ninety yards like that, what it

562
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Speaker 1: was basically like a cardio exercise for him. Yes, back up,

563
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Speaker 1: spread forward, clap your hands, get back on the huddle,

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Speaker 1: repeat exactly right. So, I mean it's interesting because you've

565
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Speaker 1: now got this guy who has been a part of

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Speaker 1: the Rams for the last six years. Excuse me, five years?

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Speaker 1: Five years? Is it five? Yes? Yes, okay, because first yes, yeah,

568
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Speaker 1: his first season was fourteen. That's funny. He's matured exactly

569
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Speaker 1: the way they said he would when he was drafted.

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Speaker 1: You think they said, first he was going to be

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Speaker 1: a slot defender and at some point he would rotate

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Speaker 1: back to free safety and then you know, he'd be

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. And I still

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Speaker 1: think that's valid regardless of his numbers. Yeah, the guys

575
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Speaker 1: he's available to you. He's always willing, never turns it down.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good in all phases. He and John Johnson

577
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Speaker 1: the third, they don't miss tackles very often. They do not.

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Speaker 1: And if there was a stat and it takes me

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Speaker 1: forever to do this, and I'm not done, and I

580
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: wish I was before this, but game saving tackles for

581
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Speaker 1: this defense. I mean they're off the charts for the

582
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Speaker 1: struggles they had stopping the run. I mean, guys were

583
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Speaker 1: breaking Scott Free to the second level to where it's

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Speaker 1: just safety and goal line. If you don't get this

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Speaker 1: guy on the ground or at least get a piece

586
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: of them, it's a touchdown. Both of those guys do

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Speaker 1: a great job getting people on the ground, which is

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00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: all safeties are about, or should be about anyway, not

589
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Speaker 1: the whole plays. It should be just about that. Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the name of their position,

591
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Speaker 1: right safety, last line of defense. Yes, yeah, good angle,

592
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Speaker 1: They're willing, they come up, and their heads always on

593
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Speaker 1: the right side of the football. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: teach off both safeties, young safeties. Watch these two guys.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know how to want to learn

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Speaker 1: how to close on a banana route, or be a

597
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: good health defender. Watch these two guys, right, they're great

598
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Speaker 1: at it, right, And so I think from that standpoint, okay,

599
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be How can the Rams make sure that

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Speaker 1: they're at least staying the same at safety? You know,

601
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Speaker 1: you do not want to get worse at that position,

602
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Speaker 1: because you've had a guy that's been around, it's been

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00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: in the locker room, that is really kind of a

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Speaker 1: leader of this defense. Yeah, if you either need to

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Speaker 1: resign him or maybe you do franchise, if you can promise,

606
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Speaker 1: if Lesnie can promise me, you'll find another. John Johnson,

607
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the third guy that can get it that fast. Remember

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Speaker 1: when he came in and how fast he became a starter,

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Speaker 1: well and not just a starter, a good player. It

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Speaker 1: would have been faster had John not gotten kind of

611
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Speaker 1: hurt in training camp, you know, because that kind of

612
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: set him back a little bit. But then by week

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Speaker 1: four he was in on the field during the second

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Speaker 1: half and became the starter the next week. Because they're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, Maris Alexander, no, we don't think you're doing

616
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Speaker 1: this as good as John Johnson would Of all the

617
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Speaker 1: second year guys last season, he's by far the best

618
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Speaker 1: he's he's improved more than any second year guy on

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Speaker 1: this football the best by by a wide margin. I

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Speaker 1: think next would be Reynolds. Maybe I would say Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: But oh Cooper Cup. Okay, well, see I keep forgetting

622
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Speaker 1: because he got hurt. I know, he got hurt and

623
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Speaker 1: so he wasn't there triple his production from year one

624
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Speaker 1: to year two, right, So I mean go from year

625
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: three to year four, hopefully that guy has a breakout season.

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Speaker 1: But John Johnson, the third from that rookie class, has

627
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: been great. Oh absolutely, yeah, I think. But there are

628
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Speaker 1: a lot of players from that seventeen draft class that

629
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Speaker 1: have done a darn good job. I mean from you know,

630
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, John Johnson, I mean those guys really steals

631
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Speaker 1: to me. In the third round, Samson Abucom who had

632
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that tremendous game again, another guy who improved, right, Josh Roynds.

633
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: Another one in the fourth round picks Gerald Everett who's

634
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: still on the rise. We've seen him make good catches.

635
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: So that's five guys right there. True from that draft

636
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: class that's really didn't productive. Sampson has really improved, but man,

637
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: it's been like a bumper car. He's learned through pain. Yeah, like,

638
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he gets smacked, he gets beat. Okay, you'll

639
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: never do that again, you know what I mean. M

640
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: I know he's still like, I'm still bugged by the

641
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: pick he missed in the playoffs. Yeah, oh my god, dude,

642
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: that was your moment. Oh my god, that was six

643
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: Bounce your head off the goal, off the goal post

644
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: and do do a funny dance. Oh my god, you'll

645
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: never get that back. Yeah, and funny thing. The second year,

646
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: guys played, well, who is your rookie of the year

647
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, John Franklin Myers. Why because he's the

648
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: only one that's played. But also, no, I thought, but

649
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: he didn't make the most of the snaps when he

650
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: was in there, right, Like, Okay, he was in there.

651
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: I know, I know that he was basically the only

652
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: one in there. There's no one on offense, no, right,

653
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: so he's got to be played a few snaps. Brian

654
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: Allen played a few snaps. It's got to be him

655
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: because the number of snaps he plays, yes, have been

656
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: necessity sort of. Yeah, right, I mean that doesn't I

657
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: don't think that takes away from his performance, not at all,

658
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: not at all. The man had a sack fumble in

659
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Like, give him his dude. I would

660
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: hate to like award a guy a Rookie of the

661
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Year because there's no other candidates. That's kind of It's

662
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: sixteen when Corey Littleton was the team rookie of the year. Well,

663
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: he played his butt off on teams. I know, yeah,

664
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: but he played his butt off on teams. I mean,

665
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: ifa was a little If kickoffs were real, I bet

666
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Michael Kaiser would be a candidate for Rookie of the Year.

667
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, I mean most of the time you're

668
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: just jogging down on kickoff anyway, they're not bringing it out. Yeah. Well, yeah,

669
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: that's because that's what they want. Not to get off track,

670
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I know, just sort of finished the safety discussion. I mean,

671
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: if Joyner does walk, then you've got guys on the roster.

672
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean Markie Christian would be one that I would

673
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: love Markie Christians because yeah, yeah, just be better with

674
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: your technique. Yeah yeah, you can't be penalized so much. Yes, yeah, yeah.

675
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: The production equal tolerance. Ye, you're not getting enough production

676
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: to tall rate the amount of no doubt. You you

677
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: mentioned Littleton, and this is the answer to my tweet.

678
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: By the way, who's the most undervalued guy is actually him.

679
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: No one's played more snaps on this football team than him.

680
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: He's played more football than golf and Gurley. He's always

681
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: on the field. The only time he wasn't the leading

682
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the guy that's played the most snaps on the team

683
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: per game, the only the only guy that's beating him

684
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: on defense has been Marquis Christian once and that's because

685
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: he had a boatload of special teams plays in a

686
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: blowout game. But yeah, I mean Littleton has been available

687
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: every single snap on defense plus special teams, and he

688
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: makes an impact everywhere he plays. Absolutely, Yeah, he would

689
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: be my most undervalued guy. Just to answer that question,

690
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: you answered it like way before we were supposed I

691
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to Yeah, I wanted to get it out

692
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: there before you beat me to it. All right, Yeah,

693
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: that's fine. We can always circle back around time. Blake

694
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Countess is another safety, but he is going to be

695
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: restricted for agents and no guarantee he'll be back, but

696
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: I would expect that he would be, I hope. So

697
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: another guy that's getting better. Yeah, do you remember Rodney McCloud. Yes,

698
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: you saw him get better in stages. Yes, it seems

699
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: like Countess is on that same sort of career arc.

700
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: He's just totally agree with better and better and better.

701
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: Eventually he could be a starter for somebody, That's what

702
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying right now. Yes, like it could be this

703
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: team next year if he's back on Marcus Joinner is

704
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: not back, you could see Blake Canness, no doubt I did.

705
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: He did give us a scare versus the forty nine

706
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: ers when he hit us check up the middle. Yeah,

707
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: and almost knocked himself out. Or he did knock himself out, yeah,

708
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's that's a world class hit. That's

709
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: a big time free safety hit. Right. So, sticking on

710
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, where you might see

711
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: somebody get franchise Dante Fowler outside linebacker. I think he's

712
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: a guy that you want back. You know, you traded

713
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: a third round pick, and that pick is expected to

714
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: be the first compensatory pick that the Rams get in

715
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: that third round. They're expected to get two third rounders,

716
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: so that's the they will have their own third round pick.

717
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Then the the first competitory pick will go to the

718
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: Jaguars to complete that trade, and then you will have

719
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: a second competitory pick in the third round. That's kind

720
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of complicated, but that's what it is. Anyway. I think

721
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: that ideally you would bring him back because he really

722
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: made an impact in the eight games that he played

723
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: in the regular season. In the postseason, I thought he

724
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: was a monster. He had some of the biggest hits

725
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah, he was only here a half

726
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: the year. Yes, made some of the biggest plays in

727
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and he was only here half the year.

728
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes with the franchise tag, in my opinion,

729
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: it's right place, right time, and I think he fits that.

730
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: And he's good too. If you give him sixteen starts

731
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: at one of the outside linebacker positions, I think he's

732
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: a double digit SAT guy. You know what I mean.

733
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: If you if you start him in mini camp, go

734
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: through training camp, let him get familiar with everything you're

735
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: doing and everybody around him, I think his game will blossom,

736
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: no doubt that. It's almost the same thing we said

737
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: about Sammy Watkins last year. You remember, right at this

738
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: time when we didn't get it right. I know, when

739
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was also a candidate to be franchise and

740
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: instead it went toul Marcus Joiner. But I think just

741
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you saw what Dante can do, you know,

742
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: and it's maybe a little bit easier to assimilate as

743
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. You're coming in and it's basically like

744
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. That's your job, go in, get the quarterback.

745
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, good numbers. I mean, yeah, two sacks in

746
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: the regular season for his fumble, fumbel recovery, fought, four

747
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: tackles for lost, five quarterback hits. That those are good

748
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: numbers in a game. Great numbers. And he plays the

749
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: game similar to Aaron, which means sometimes he may violate

750
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: the integrity of the defense in order to make a play.

751
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: And it's not discouraged here. Sure you don't get slapped

752
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: on the wrist and yanked out of a game because

753
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: you're in the wrong gap. The key is to make

754
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: a play, key has to hit him for a loss.

755
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: So I think he experienced a certain sort of freedom here.

756
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: He was allowed to play his game, and I think

757
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: as it kept going, he kept getting better and better.

758
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: At some point in some series, even with Aaron on

759
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: the field, he might have been the best player on

760
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: the field for certain drives. Wow, Yeah, the most dangerous

761
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: player on the field or the guy that got you

762
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: off the field more so than anybody else he did.

763
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: I mean in the NFC Championship game, that's what he

764
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: is able to do. You know. He hit Breeze right

765
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: to force that that errant passed that John Johnson intercepted

766
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: in overtime, and then Greg's earline sends the ramps of

767
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with the fifty seven yard field goals.

768
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: So you know he had he had one and a

769
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: half sacks, four tackles for lost, three quarterback hits in

770
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: the postseason, and to me, like the quarterback hits thing

771
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: like it seems like it's selling him short somehow, no doubt,

772
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: because he seemed like he was always in the back

773
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: he I mean, look, even if he doesn't get there,

774
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's coming from farther away than anybody up

775
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: the gut. So there's going to be more hits, or

776
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: at least should be from an interior guy. But an

777
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: outside guy can get a pressure, not necessarily a hit,

778
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: Like he can affect the quarterback without actually hitting the guy. Yes, yeah,

779
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean you're coming off the edge, you're free. You

780
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: have to dump the football to avoid getting hit. You

781
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: know what, I'm saying he's been that guy, and look,

782
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: I think he may be easier to sign long term,

783
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, So, I mean it all seems like if

784
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: you had a choice where you'd want to put the

785
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: franchise tag, it might be him, and not just based

786
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: on how he played, based on business too. Yes, yes,

787
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: and I think you know, if you do you do that,

788
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: you prevent him from getting to the open market. He's

789
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: definitely a guy that could be signed long term before

790
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: that July fifteenth deadline. Yeah, you know, so probably like

791
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: four or five teams that are going to use him

792
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: the way he can be used like here, stand up,

793
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: hand down, move around. I mean, and this is the

794
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: best team. This is the best one of those teams,

795
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. Like who else would you

796
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: like Denver? Denver could use you, you know, Baltimore guys

797
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: with outside backers that stand up, hand down, every other

798
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: play that feature outside outside talent. There's not that many

799
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: teams out there that can use you in that capacity.

800
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: This is the best one. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean

801
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: this team is expected to compete for championship next year

802
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: as well, so you know if that would factor in

803
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: in any way, Yeah, you know, wanting to win, and

804
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: then you also know the environment, you know the coaches,

805
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: you know the players around you. So yeah, that I

806
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: mean not that not you know, hometown discount out that

807
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but that is probably something that's a

808
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: factor when you play and when you've been through what

809
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler has been through in terms of you know,

810
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: being in Jacksonville, not really playing over the course of

811
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: this season until he got to Los Angeles and then boom,

812
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's out there all the time.

813
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: You're not blocked by in Goooquay. Yeah, you're You're the guy.

814
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: And another thing is, you know, look, you've got the

815
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: best defender on your team. You know, the guy they

816
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: can't block, the guy that's guaranteed to give you one

817
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: on ones ninety percent of the time. This is where

818
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: your bread is going to be buttered. Yes, yeah, yes,

819
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: for not to consue, I mean it's another headliner, another

820
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: starter on the defensive end. Where do you see this

821
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: going with him? I have no idea. I mean, look,

822
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: there's you can always use better defensive line play, and

823
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: to me, it's the only thing that matters in the NFL.

824
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure like quarterbacks receivers, running backs, all that stuff matters.

825
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: You have to score points. I get it. But if

826
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: your d line sucks, it doesn't matter how good your offensive. Well,

827
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: it always starts up front, right of course, if you

828
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: can't stop him, then what's the point? Right? So, and

829
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: the guy showed in the postseason that he still got

830
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: it now, yeah he really does. Yes, how much are

831
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: you willing to pay for that? That's the question. And

832
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: how much is he willing to take? You know, Um,

833
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: you would hope that another go round for another for

834
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: a chance in another ring is enough for him to stay.

835
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: But if someone offers him money, big money, I wouldn't

836
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: say you couldn't take that or you shouldn't take that. Sure, yeah,

837
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense. The biggest

838
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: thing to me that just don't land in the division

839
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: right right. The biggest thing to me that it would

840
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: be the hardest thing to replace about Dominicans Sue is

841
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: just the amount of snaps that he played. He played

842
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: eighty eight percent of the Rams defensive snaps over the

843
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: course of bet he's still working out right now, like Aaron, Yes, yeah,

844
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: they're they're there there, machine, they're on a different level.

845
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: It snap counts doesn't matter to them, which is insane

846
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: because it matters to every other defensive lineman in the league.

847
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: But they've been working like this since they were in

848
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: high school. I know, yeah, there is no offseasons for them,

849
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: But when you think about who would be interested, look

850
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: at San fran They've got one guy they need help.

851
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland's got a guy right in Miles Garrett

852
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett that they need help. So there, wherever

853
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: you see a a one stud team, that's where Sue

854
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: is going to look more attractive. If I can put

855
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: you with him, I've got something dangerous. If I can

856
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: put you with this guy, I've got something dangerous. If

857
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: ya can keep you here in LA with Donald, you

858
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: already have something dangerous. That's where he becomes more attractive.

859
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: That's where I think, you know, thinking about the teams

860
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: that were going after him last year, besides Los Angeles, Tennessee,

861
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: somewhere where you had Darrell Casey in New Orleans, somewhere

862
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: where you had a guy like Cam Jordan. You know,

863
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: you it's exactly the same thing. You pair this guy

864
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: with somebody else, and boy, you know you see what

865
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: could happen. But you have to like also factor in

866
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: how much he's gonna make and make sure that that

867
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: team he's going to doesn't have a quarterback you're paying yet,

868
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: So you have to think young quarterback with a young

869
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: stud on D line somewhere, you know, so you can

870
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: afford sue. Yes, right, yes, And so that's going to

871
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: be interesting. I think that you know, between the guys

872
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: that we've talked about, you know, there's a lot of

873
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: stuff that the rims and those guys and the representation

874
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: are gonna have to work through in order to say,

875
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: all right, this is where we think it's going to

876
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: be best for us to fare right. I mean, look, look,

877
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: I hope the euphoria of the Super Bowl hasn't worn off.

878
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: And I hope the fact that that you lost to

879
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: New England and in the fashion that you lost in

880
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: is enough to drive the team to stay together to

881
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: get one more push out of this. We're we're better,

882
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: We're better than what we showed. Yes, so you're gonna

883
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: have to do it one more time to prove it.

884
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: I hope you can keep everybody together for it. I

885
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: do too. One other guy that I do want to

886
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: bring up, c J Anderson. Yeah, where do you see

887
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: his market shaking up? You know? Funny? Um, it depends

888
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: on what he how he sees himself. Does he see

889
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: himself as a starter? You know, yeah, a guy that

890
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: plays major reps or you know, is he going to

891
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: be happy subbing for Todd when Todd is tired? Because

892
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: when Todd is healthy, that's exactly what's going to happen, right, Yeah,

893
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: when Todd is ready to go and he's one hundred

894
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: percent and he doesn't need a two headed monster, it's

895
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: going to be the Todd Gurley Show. Are you going

896
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: to be comfortable standing next to McVeigh ninety percent of

897
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: the game? Well, I mean that's what it was with

898
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown when Malcolm Brown was healthy. Malcolm Brown is

899
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: a restricted free agent, So that's another guy that I

900
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: think could potentially be back, especially because I mean, if

901
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown had been healthy at the end of the

902
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: season and we see him instead of C. J. Anderson,

903
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown is probably being talked about as a guy

904
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: as a restricted free agent that could go somewhere and

905
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: get some good. He would have beat the snot out

906
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: of Arizona and San Francisco. I agree with that. With

907
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: the way he was running and the way they were

908
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: defending down the stretch. Absolutely, I mean we would have

909
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: he would have been the big story going into the postseason. Yes, yeah,

910
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: so it is what it is. But it just depends

911
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: on you know, does he see himself as a starter

912
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: and does another team see him as a starter c

913
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: Jamison or as a split time running back, right, which

914
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I think he can be very effective doing. But here

915
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: it's going to be about Todd Gurley. They've already paid

916
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: him to be that guy. Yes, no doubt. I mean,

917
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: and it's funny Todd Gurley still led the league with

918
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: twenty one total touchdown seventeen rushing touchdowns, and this despite

919
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: not playing in the last couple games of the season. Right,

920
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: every time I say when Todd gets healthy, you look

921
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: at me and smile. That's a raging debate. I know

922
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: it's a debate. But like the and from and we

923
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: said this in the last podcast from the Answers that

924
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: we have, Yeah, Todd said he's one hundred percent. And

925
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: I know you say, just because he says it's one

926
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: hundred percent means he can play. McVay said, there's no

927
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: cleanup surgery scheduled. I can't say Todd's not healthy. Okay,

928
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: then let's get in the film room with guys and

929
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: show me. Well, well, we'll start from play one to

930
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: the last play, and you tell me, do you see

931
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: any difference in Todd Gurley. I'm not saying that there

932
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: was or was not a different I'm gonna believe you

933
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: were my lying eyes. I'm just saying to you from

934
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: my standpoint, from where I sit, right, I can't say

935
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley wasn't healthy fair enough, I can't do it.

936
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm right because he says he's a hund percent, right,

937
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: so did the head coach? Yes, I get and they

938
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: kept repeating it. That's what I'm going to repeat. And

939
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: there's no conspiracy theory, No, especially not in the super Bowl,

940
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: like I can understand by stand there is because if

941
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent, then why why isn't he playing more?

942
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean why isn't he playing in the

943
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: playoffs in the super Bowl because you had well you

944
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: didn't have any plays in the super Bowl. Why why

945
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: do I need to argue with you like you're a

946
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Twitter fallow? No, I'm not. I'm just I'm not. I'm

947
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: just like you don't know that the Rams only had

948
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: two first downs in the first. If I take the

949
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: stance they were one of ten on third, why didn't

950
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: you play him more? Okay, I'll take the stance that

951
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: he's not okay, but but he's just not going to

952
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: say it. Yeah, I'm telling you that it wouldn't have

953
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: mattered whether or not how healthy Todd is, because if

954
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: your offensive line can't block, and if they're not getting

955
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: any push up front, and if they can't get any

956
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: first downs, they're not going to get in the rhythm offensively,

957
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: and you can't use the running back anyway. If so

958
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: like that, that's what that's that's the stuff that like,

959
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: if you know football, you know that well. And I

960
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: know I'm talking to you when you're playing Devil's Advocate.

961
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: You know that if you had September October Todd in

962
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, you have more than two first downs.

963
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: But you don't have If you have the September October

964
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: offensive line, you have more than two first suns. I

965
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: love getting you worked up. It's so much fun that

966
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: that was my attempt at trolling. I see that probably

967
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous because I still sound No. I just mean,

968
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: like the sound of my voice Stills all good stuff.

969
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: This is everything that everyone wants to talk about. Everywhere

970
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: I go, it's always Todd, I know, Todd Todd, Todd, Todd,

971
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Todd Todd. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. Yeah, um, so I did

972
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: want to get to what you tweeted about. You know,

973
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: the RAMS player that's the most undervalued guy. Who? So,

974
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: since you already answered that it is Corey Littleton, who was? Who?

975
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Did you get from responses from like fans and mostly Littleton? Yeah,

976
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: John Johnson the third came up and he's in the running.

977
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: Um do you know that John Johnson the Third started

978
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: every three football game this year? Played I think he

979
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: was second on defense and snaps second or third and

980
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: wasn't penalized once. He wasn't penalized once really all season long,

981
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: not even a declined at penalty. I did you know

982
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: what I did not know? You? Yeah, was not penalized.

983
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean so, I mean it was close between Littleton

984
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: and John Johnson the Third, but I had to go

985
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: with Lyttleton because of how many snaps he played and

986
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: how effective he was, even the games where he wasn't

987
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: the the high watermark as far as play count like

988
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: versus San Francisco. He beat the snot out of them

989
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: that they gave him plays off, Yes, yeah, both times.

990
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: So he was basically your iron man of the football team.

991
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: So I had to go with him your most undervalued

992
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: for what he's being paid and how much he gave you,

993
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: he's got to be your most undervalued guy. Yeah, I know.

994
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense. I think

995
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: that you got when you look at somebody like John

996
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Johnson who's undervalued, maybe because he doesn't go to the

997
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, different things like that. She also got at

998
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: to me somebody like a Robert Woods, but especially based

999
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: on what his contract is. And since I retweeted, I

1000
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: saw a lot of fans also said Robert Woods in there.

1001
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: But also a guy like NIKEL, Robie Coleman, big time,

1002
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: somebody who excels in the slot, who's always there. Can

1003
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I tell you something. I'm watching Littleton Tate and John

1004
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Johnson the third and the guy I keep coming back

1005
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: to is Robie Coleman. Yeah. I'm supposed to be watching

1006
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: these two, but I keep watching this guy over here.

1007
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: All he does is make plays, yes, especially when they

1008
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: go at him. Yes, yeah, undervalued, Yes, No, doubt. And

1009
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: the unfortunate thing is that you know, if that play

1010
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: that he made in the backfield, that he read so well,

1011
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: basically they called it a penalty on the Super Bowl, Yes,

1012
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. If that play is still a

1013
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: negative play. Who knows the way that game is true?

1014
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: Not Devil's advocate. You didn't have to choke him and

1015
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: slam him on his head. Okay, you're talking to a

1016
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: defender here. I mean, you didn't have to choke him

1017
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: and slam him on his head. Way I saw it.

1018
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: If you're gonna call hit to a defenseless receiver, Robie

1019
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: Coleman was right there when the ball got there. I

1020
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: think that was the call that you had to make,

1021
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: because that's the penalty defenseless receiver. I think it was.

1022
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: It could have been a roughing call. You can't have roughing.

1023
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: It would be unnecessary rough unnecessary roughness. Okay, because you

1024
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: did crank the head and slam you tried the d

1025
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: D team. Well, I didn't see it that way. How

1026
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: can you not? I don't know? Okay, thank you? Come on.

1027
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, like you could have released the play was

1028
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: dead and you could have taken the loss without burying

1029
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: the guy and not get the penalty. The play wasn't

1030
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: dead though, I mean you, the play was dead when

1031
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: you hit him. He's going backwards in theory, but what

1032
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: if he gets out. You've seen Aaron and Sue let

1033
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: guys go. Yeah, well, let's see it in the in

1034
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. But one the play before the breeze,

1035
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: sus tried not to get penalized, right, and then they don't,

1036
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: they don't blow it dead, and then Aaron cleans it up.

1037
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: That's the one time I'm talking earlier in the year

1038
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: when they've had quarterbacks dead de Rice and they didn't

1039
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: put the body weight. Yeah on, guys, Yeah, you can

1040
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: not bury a guy. You didn't have to slam his

1041
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: head into the ground. Well, whatever they cost him twenty

1042
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: six grand, I guarantee you he won't do it again. Probably, Yeah,

1043
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: well yeah, especially in front of the white hat. Come on,

1044
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: don't even make it. Don't even make it a gray

1045
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: area for the guys. They're always going to penalize the defense.

1046
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, So before we get out

1047
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: of here, do you want to get to some news

1048
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: And now, just to make it clear, this is not official,

1049
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Speaker 1: but it might be in the next couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and it's definitely the way the wind is blowing. So

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Speaker 1: I think we can still kind of talk about it

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But Wes Phillips, Wade Phillips' son, it

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Speaker 1: looks like he will be joining the Rams as the

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Speaker 1: new tight ends coach, and so Albert Rear reported this

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Speaker 1: yesterday that Shane Waldron is going to move from his

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Speaker 1: position of focus. He's still gonna be pass game coordinator,

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Speaker 1: but he's going to go from tight ends coach to

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach and then still remain that pass game coordinator.

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Speaker 1: And then Jed Fish, who was senior offensive assistant, will

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Speaker 1: then be promoted from senior offensive assist into assistant offensive coordinator. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So all that's coming from Albert Brewer of Sports Illustrat

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Speaker 1: and the Monday Morning Court. Three years from now, Waldron

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Speaker 1: will be a head coach. Three I'm just saying, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could be next year. Man could be playing like

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Speaker 1: all of your coaches now better head coaches elsewhere. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just keep moving up the pipeline, especially on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Yes, no doubt. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: cool though, I think is that you now have two

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Speaker 1: fathers son coaching duos that are on the Rams staff

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Speaker 1: between Wade Phillips, West Phillips and then Zach Crumber and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Cromer on the offense. So that's kind of neat.

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Speaker 1: We're to learn from dad. It's not a Tommy Boys situation, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. You've never seen Tommy? No,

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Speaker 1: you know what movie I did watch over the course

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Speaker 1: of last weekend. How could you not have seen Tommy? Easily?

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Speaker 1: I watched the funniest movies of all time. You should

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Speaker 1: be happy that I watched Goodfellows, though, Why it's like

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Speaker 1: ninety years old. It's I mean, it's twenty eight. What

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Speaker 1: do you think of it? I liked it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Did you who's your favorite Martin Scorsese? Who's your favorite character?

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Speaker 1: My favorite character in that movie? Uh, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I don't remember everybody's name. That's

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Speaker 1: so terrible. I watched this movie. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: gotta brag that I watched this movie on Between the Horns,

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Speaker 1: and now I can't remember. Did you watch it like

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00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: on the TV version or like the real movie? No,

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00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: I watched the movie. It was on HBO. Go okay,

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00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: all right, shout out to HBO go good stuff. Absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was great. You know what was interesting though about that,

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00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Like I've seen that scene where they're going in and

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00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: the crystals then he kissed me. Yeah in the background.

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00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: That's like the single cam shot about that. Yes, yes,

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00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: it's really cool. And then in the context of the movie,

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Speaker 1: it like makes it even cooler. Right, I love those

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Speaker 1: long shots. Yea. I wish more directors would try that. Yeah,

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00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean too. Yeah, it's hard to pull off, though,

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I'm sure it is. Yeah. What was

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00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: that other movie, Children of Men that had the longest

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Speaker 1: one shot? How long was that shot? Like twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: or something. It's a long one shot. It's awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have you seen you haven't seen No, I've not seen that,

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Speaker 1: But there was a long shot in the h the

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00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: episode of Narcos Mexico that I watched. Really yeah, yeah, nice, nice, nice.

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Speaker 1: It's cool like working in this kind of production environment

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00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: because I noticed things like that. Now that's like yeah,

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, it's like mcveigh's offensive drives. It's like

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Speaker 1: one long yes, yes, Um, So we're coming up on

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Speaker 1: a bit of a break here, so we will not

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00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: be in the studio next week. How are you going

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00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: to spend your time? Oh my god? Uh, you know,

1111
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: just getting ready for the draft, you know, going over

1112
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Speaker 1: some college guys. Um, a lot of guys have been

1113
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: disinvited from the combine. Yeah. I noticed that too. That's interesting,

1114
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: very interesting, and they're good players. So I guess reshuffling

1115
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: your mocks, you know, just having fun with mock drafts,

1116
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, seeing what people have, seeing what the scouts have. Yeah.

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00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I love that sort of stuff. Yeah, you know, Um,

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00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: it's funny. Some guys like the Jojoe Nadson's Cadero Hodge,

1119
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: the Bryce Hagers, what have you, the special teams guys

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Speaker 1: right literally around the league, guys are going to be

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Speaker 1: watching their replacements at the combine and they don't know it. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: that's how it goes. It's true. These young guys are

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Speaker 1: coming in and you know, most of them are gonna

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Speaker 1: take jobs from people that are here, right Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I mean for guys that like Sue and like Donald

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00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: and Goff, Girlie, it's your off seasons a little bit

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00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: different for some guys. You got to compete with these

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00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: young guys right now. Yeah, no matter how long your

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Speaker 1: season was. Yes, you know what I mean. So just

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Speaker 1: getting ready for that sort of stuff and helping some

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Speaker 1: people get ready for mini camp. Yeah yeah, yeah, going

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00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: back up to the Bay Area helping some guys that

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00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: come through there. Very cool, absolutely, very nice. All right.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm mostly just gonna show for a little bit, no,

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Speaker 1: at least for a week. Maybe I'll watch some movies.

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Speaker 1: Good watch Children of Men, you'd like it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty will be at the NFL Combine as I will be,

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00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: I should say, starting February twenty sixth, so I think, well, yeah,

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00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: so the media availability should start the twenty seventh and

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00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: the twenty eighth. Yeah, that's usually when coach and GM

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00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: press conferences are, so of course we'll have a lot

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Speaker 1: of coverage from that, and then we will also have

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00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: some more stuff off of the workouts and different things

1144
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: like that. So it should be fun knowing who's who

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00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: and who should perform well at the combine right from

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Speaker 1: this point on. Yes, yeah, yes, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: best parts about the I think one of the best

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Speaker 1: parts about the off season is going to the Combine

1149
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: and getting to see people you know that work for

1150
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: other teams. Yeah, you just don't get to see that often,

1151
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: no doubt that's fun. I do wonder who they're going

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: to draft and what they're going to draft, and when

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Speaker 1: they're going to draft. Yeah, and what side of the

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00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: ball yes yeah, When do you get to that first

1155
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: offensive guy? Yeah? And what got and what position do

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Speaker 1: you pick? Yes? Exactly. All right, Well, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things to talk about over the course

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Speaker 1: of the off season, So everybody, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to this edition of Between the Horns. We will

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Speaker 1: see you next time. M xpanished