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Speaker 1: presented by Miller White as we welcome you into the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco and the s WBC studios. No David

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Speaker 1: Hellman today, No Jeff Cavanaugh as well. It is Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us and myself, Kyle Yeoman's trying to hold it

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Speaker 1: down here from the Star and what is one of

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Speaker 1: the more crazy weeks that I can remember covering this branchise.

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Speaker 1: It is a happy saint. Patrick's happy as well. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: one oh five three the fan with our show and

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Speaker 1: it's been a roller coaster ride. And I you know,

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Speaker 1: my experience of being a former scout and working in

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Speaker 1: the league and having friends that still do this in

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Speaker 1: the league. You know, the the emotions that you feel

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Speaker 1: at this time when you feel like you have something

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Speaker 1: done when it doesn't work out the one you just

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Speaker 1: missed on, you know, the one you got. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is a it's a very very difficult time because

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Speaker 1: you kind of you lay out your plan for how

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Speaker 1: you want to build your team, you know, before the draft,

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Speaker 1: and if you could supplement it with a couple of

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Speaker 1: much on the draft, it sure takes a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure off you. And this team is you know, last

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Speaker 1: year did a really nice job with free agency. They'll

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Speaker 1: be it week two, week three free agency, but they

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Speaker 1: had a good plan, they got some good they got

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Speaker 1: some good play the guys that they got, and you know,

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Speaker 1: to miss out on signing one of their own, you know,

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Speaker 1: But they you know, you don't put your head in

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're going to do throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of this show is look at alternative moves of action

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Speaker 1: for this Cowboys team. Where do they go next? Is

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Speaker 1: it possible to replace a guy like Randy Gregory? And

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Speaker 1: is it possible to replace him in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about that situation, because when we were

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Speaker 1: recording on Tuesday, we were under the impression that Randy

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Speaker 1: It was already agreed to terms. He felt like he

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Speaker 1: out that he had had a rocky ending, no pun

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Speaker 1: intended with Dallas going to Denver, right, and he agrees

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Speaker 1: the contracts in the past, Randy Gregory's contract has that provision,

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Speaker 1: all that would be karloftis from from Purdue. I think

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson. If you talk to the scouts around the

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Speaker 1: media scouts have him higher than a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: there with you. I have him as the bendy athletic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Brugler at the Combine too, But you're right, he's very raw.

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Speaker 1: If the Cowboys do indeed get lucky enough to pick

427
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum out of Iowa at pick number twenty four.

428
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: Who could they target in the later rounds two through

429
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 1: seven at guard because double dipping on that offensive line

430
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: to get two new starters in the draft. So basically

431
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: you're talking about starter caliber players at guard from rounds

432
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: two through seven. I really do like when you start

433
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: to talk about guys like Mumford from Ohio State. I

434
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: think Ryan from UCLA. These are guys that played offensive

435
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 1: tackled during the year. Chris Paul was another one. I'm

436
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: not the basketball players that you see on the commercials,

437
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: but Chris Paul, the from Memphis I think would be

438
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: a guy that I would surely consider right there at

439
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: the guard spot. So yeah, I mean, you know, the

440
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys could very well fall in love with Green from

441
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 1: Texas A and m at that spot, you know, I mean,

442
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 1: it seems like to me he's slipping. Zion Johnson is

443
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: a guy that's getting a lot of momentum. I could

444
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys totally being invested in a guy like

445
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson. Boston College has a great history. I know

446
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: those are early guys Kinnard, Kentucky kind of earlier second

447
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: round potential guys. So but I would say I would

448
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: keep an eye on Mumfro from Ohio, Day Ryan from Ucla,

449
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: Chris Paul from from from Tulsa, Tulsa. That's say Memphis.

450
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, but that's okay, that's it. Yeah, Tulsa

451
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: is what I meant. I'm sorry, Chris Baul. I like

452
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: him a lot. He was a combined invite Senior Bowl guy.

453
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: I really kind of stood out from time to time.

454
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: Wasn't the best player on the field by any means

455
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: in terms of the offensive line in the guard position,

456
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: but he was always a guy who you kind of

457
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: kept an eye on. Yeah, do you think ed Ingram

458
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: could potentially fall if if Kenyon Green is falling like

459
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: he is? Do you think at Ingram out of LSU

460
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: could be there at fifty six? You know what? I

461
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: really do like Ingram. He is my favorite guard. I

462
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: just the reason I don't bring him up as much

463
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: is because again, well he's not I've Green above him,

464
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: and then I have Ingram, and then I have Johnson.

465
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: Got it, just the just the preference that I have there.

466
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think with Ingram, I think there's some

467
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: there's some people, I mean, there's some questions about like

468
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: like how well he really moves I mean, people were

469
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: talking about that early and I was watching the tape.

470
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: I watch a ton of LSU games, I mean, I

471
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: watch every one of them. And I was watching the tape,

472
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: and I was watching Alabama, and I was watching Texas

473
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: A and M and I saw a second level blocker

474
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, I didn't see a guy

475
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: that struggle. I saw a guy that played with a

476
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: lot of power. Though. That's the thing about it that

477
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: I was really you know, I was kind of thinking

478
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: about the you know, with the Cowboys situation there, you know,

479
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: playing inside. One of the thing that Jerry Jones is really, really,

480
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: really big on is the fact that he wants though

481
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't want the front of the pocket to collapse,

482
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: nobody does. Quarterbacks can't deal when they could deal with

483
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: the edge, they can't deal with the with the what

484
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: happens in front. And that's why you've seen Jerry Jones

485
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: kind of invest in like Travis Frederick and Zach Martin

486
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: and you know, high picks on interior, you know, offensive lineman. Heck,

487
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, Connor McGovern had a grade of one two one,

488
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: which is a if you know, low numbers the best

489
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: and that that's the top of the second round. Wow,

490
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: is where his grade was. But I mean the thing

491
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: about Ingram, like, I mean, he's able to open some

492
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: big holes. And I mean there's like you could see

493
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: it behind him. They're running the football, the knee bind,

494
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: the body control, he gets his hands inside. I mean,

495
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: I just see a powerful guy like forklifting his guy up,

496
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: you know. So I just, you know, I just kind

497
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: of thought he was a guy that i'd really really

498
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: like six three three zero seven. You know, it's just

499
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: kind of got that build to play inside. And you know, again,

500
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson's a little bit same height, about five pounds

501
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: heavier if you want to if you want to tail

502
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: the tape, No, that's great. And I'm looking at at

503
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: Ingram above Zion Johnson. They're touching tags right now. Yeah,

504
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: And I thought about making that switch to Kenny. And

505
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, are the only two on this show

506
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: that aren't as high on Zion as maybe a Cavanaugh. Yeah,

507
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: And you know what, and you know, if he's selected

508
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, please don't take me wrong. It might

509
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: be just a bad day of watching take you know,

510
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: but I just kind of feel like, though there's Green,

511
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 1: Ingram Johnson, they're all right there in a cluster. And

512
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: if I don't be the first to admit, you know,

513
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: when we get to the process, if the Cowboys take

514
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson and he steps in there and he gives

515
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: you stability at that left guard spot, I'll be the

516
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: first one to admit, because I do there's some issues

517
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: I have. I think all these guys have got issues.

518
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: And I can say, at twenty four, you're gonna have

519
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: something that's gonna be wrong with you. You're gonna have

520
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: good things. You're gonna have like a list of take

521
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: the legal pad. You're gonna have your good your good

522
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: list on one side, and then you're gonna have two

523
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: or three things on that other side that you're going, Okay,

524
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Can I live with this? Sure? Can I live with this?

525
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: And I think all three of these guys, Johnson, Ingram

526
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: Green have those kinds of abilities. It's the same kind

527
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: of thing you talk about damaged goods. Yeah, you get

528
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: to that ladder part. Still a really really good football player,

529
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: no question, no question. There's times where I've got into

530
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: about the bosas and people like that. You know, guys,

531
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I still have like highly ranked I'm just letting you

532
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: know there's things that you kind of look at that,

533
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: you say, okay, this could keep him from being there's

534
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: a reason why he's at twenty four and not at

535
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, not at eight or ten, top ten pick exactly.

536
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: Eric asked, if you're trading in between twenty four and

537
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: fifty six, you're trying to get right back up and

538
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: then the top fifty realm, what would that take and

539
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: what would your strategy change, Like, how would it change

540
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: if you had three picks in the top fifty six. Yeah,

541
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: I think my strategy it what it would take is

542
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to use I always like to use players,

543
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: and I was trying to think about Jacksonville, and I

544
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: was thinking about Jets, and I was thinking about Jacksonville

545
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: with with really what the offensive lineman, you know, with

546
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins using him as a way to go from that,

547
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the second round, all

548
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: the way up, I was singing about the Jets. When

549
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: it came to with the Maury Cooper trade, how do

550
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: you get up into those spots? So yeah, I mean

551
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: you've got you've got ammunition. You know, you think, like, well,

552
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: the only fifth round picks put them all together. You know,

553
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: somebody somebody will say, well, heck, yeah, I'll take your

554
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: three and your two fives and we'll go you know.

555
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so there's ways of doing it. I think

556
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: people really you try and get people, let them keep

557
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: their picks if you're interested in flopping picks is another

558
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: thing that's really I think a really good weapon to

559
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: use that some teams, like we saw in the Commanders

560
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: and Colts trade was a flopping of where you're gonna pick. So, yeah,

561
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: I was targeting, Like I said, I was now trying

562
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to think about Lyle Collins. But you know, Jacksonville has

563
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: done a whole lot with their offensive line now and

564
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that since we last talks. They've spent a

565
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah, they've spent a lot of money.

566
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: And so but if you can, if you can take

567
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: all those fives you got and put a couple of

568
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: them with the three, you could go up as you know,

569
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: you can go up into that area. I was talking

570
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: about the thirty three to forty if you really but

571
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you probably you know, two or

572
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: three picks to do it, and then possibly a player.

573
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: Do you think Lyle could be kind of collaterized? I was,

574
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, I was hopeful. But if if I'm hearing

575
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: that Daniel Hunter, who is a really good player, is

576
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: going for potentially a third round pick, then then you

577
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: know what's Lyle Collins gonna go for? Is he gonna

578
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: go for a four or five? I was hopeful of

579
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: three was bet would be where he's at. But people

580
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: are kind of in that mode right now. There's questions.

581
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that the New England Patriots

582
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: have talked about you know, Lyle Collins, and you know

583
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: they moved on from Shaq Mason, I believe and stuff

584
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: like that. So don't be surprised, like, you know, don't

585
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: be surprised if the fifth round pick that the the

586
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots got, you know, in the Mason deal, ends

587
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: up in Dallas for Lyle Collins or something like that.

588
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, I can see that happening. Aaron says, who

589
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: does your top or who is your top graded kicker?

590
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Have you watched any kicker? No? I mean okay, I

591
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: think yeah. The thing about it is that you know,

592
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: I know from a fact, you know, the kid at LSU,

593
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: I've seen him with my own eyes, has been out

594
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Sanaa kde York. I think Oklahoma I think there's Texas

595
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: has the Yeah, I mean there's you know, to me,

596
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: when you got again, there's all those fives. You know,

597
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: do you turn around and draft a kicker, you turn

598
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: around and draft a punter. Have you looked at Ariza

599
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: from San Diego have seen him play? Yeah, it's pretty phenomenal.

600
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: He has absolutely and probably going to have to go

601
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: higher than you know, these kickers and putters. People are

602
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: realizing that the kicking game is such an important part.

603
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Look at the Cincinnati Bengals. They lived on their kicking

604
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: game the last part of the season, you know, and

605
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: was able to make that work. So I don't think

606
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: you could discount you know. I think the thing with

607
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker being available now the Rams moving on from

608
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: him or I think they've moved on potentially. I know

609
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I was hearing some stories that they might. But yeah,

610
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: and does Bones Fossil step in there, and I'm sure

611
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: Bones will be at these workouts. I'm sure he's gonna

612
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: go to Texas. I'm sure he's gonna go to LSU,

613
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: you know. I'm sure he's gonna go all over the country,

614
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: maybe go out to San Diego State to see if

615
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: that kid is really as a as a weapon as

616
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: he is, could be something interesting to look out for,

617
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: because if you maybe take those fives, if you keep,

618
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: if you hold onto those fives, I'm with you. I

619
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: would rather punch him up. Let's go up and get somebody. Yeah,

620
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: maybe try and get in the top one hundred. Again,

621
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: that's tough task. You may have to give up all

622
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: four for that. But if you keep the fives, draft

623
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: your punter, draft your kicker, that's what I'm mean to cheap. Yeah,

624
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. You know that you make sure that

625
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: you're keeping somebody else. These punters and kickers, though, we

626
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: might see again, and we've seen it in history, you know,

627
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean not to like it was in the nineteen

628
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: seventies when guys like Steve Little and Russell erk Slave

629
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: and those guys were getting picked in the first round.

630
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: I think John Lee was another one that was a

631
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: really high pick. I mean, we used to see first

632
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: and second round kickers all Sebastian Janikowski was the first round.

633
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of feel like though that you'll

634
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: see people probably take these punters and kickers earlier than

635
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe the Cowboys might be willing to. No, I agree

636
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: with you, especially a reason because we were talking with

637
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Dane and the combine. You look at him almost as

638
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: a defensive player, absolutely because of the way he can

639
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: flip the field and kind of push an offense back

640
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: and put their backs against the wall. Stewart asks, since

641
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: we lost Randy Gregory, since the Cowboys lost Randy Gregory

642
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: in free agency, does edge rusher all of a sudden

643
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: take priority over wide receiver, linebacker, offensive guard? How does

644
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: it shift your needs immediately? I'd say this on one

645
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: oh five three every day. If I if it's not

646
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: helping Dak, I'm really not interested. That's my attitude. Now.

647
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the help Dak train. And so to me,

648
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: if you know, dan Quinn has proven to me that

649
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: he could take defensive players he didn't have his best

650
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: defensive players. Are think gonna get all the turnovers they

651
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: got last year? Maybe not, but you know, I think

652
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: dan Quinn will do things to put his players in

653
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: positions to make plays. So yeah, I mean to me,

654
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't sit there and just say, Okay, I've got

655
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: to have a defensive end. Now I don't. And I'm

656
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: not saying Dorgs Armstrong, Hey, Dorn Starmstrong. Let me tell you,

657
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I got tired of seeing Dorance Armstrong have one great

658
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: game and then have three bad ones where he was

659
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: not a factory. Last year was Doran's Armstrong's best year

660
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: as far as this consistency goes. I think he had

661
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: one less sack than Randy Gregory and that thing, and

662
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong played really, really well. So let's see, I mean,

663
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: let's see what you got with Golston, you know, I

664
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: mean that's another one that I kind of saw some

665
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: of the similar traits of what would Tank playing the run?

666
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: Don't let him outside? You know? Is he the Pastors guy?

667
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Took Tank a little time to develop some pass rush

668
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: moves and stuff like that. So maybe you'll see something

669
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: with Golston. But I don't think you necessarily have to say, Okay,

670
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: we're just gonna we're just gonna draft a defensive end.

671
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm no help Dak Prescott, receiver, guard, center, whatever that

672
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: is to help Dak Prescott. Make sure you get that done.

673
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Where do you put that those three those three positions,

674
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I think I would go offensive line first. They seem

675
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: to have a pretty good feel for this when they

676
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: plug and play. First round offensive lineman. Worked out Frelly

677
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: well for him, been pretty good. Huh yeah, yeah, it

678
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: has Martin Travis Frey Smith. It's been a really good.

679
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Plug and play has been very very good for them.

680
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm hopeful that that if it's if

681
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: it's Green or Johnson or Ingram or any of those guys,

682
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's plug and play and let's go. Yeah,

683
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: Or if it's Linda Baum the center from Iowa, let's go.

684
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, but this team has to find a way.

685
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: They have to get back to running the football that

686
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: it helps Dak Prescott. We saw what it did the

687
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: first eight weeks of the season and then the inability

688
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: to not have to run the football, and then teams

689
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: started playing. Teams were daring you to run the football

690
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: and you couldn't run the football. Something has to change there. Yeah,

691
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of running the football, Michael asked about any day

692
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: three running backs you could potentially look at that the

693
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys could be interested yet, you know, and I haven't.

694
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: It's interest because I haven't done a whole heck of

695
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot of it either. But I'll tell you what

696
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna probably say this poor kid's name wrong.

697
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: Is it Carrian Williams from uh Kyran william from Dame

698
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. Yeah, and and and this is this

699
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: is Iron Williams is interesting because to me, he's a

700
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: little bit of a shorter guy, five nine, one hundred

701
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: ninety four pounds. They have him listened at five nine.

702
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I haven't updated that sheet. Yeah, I said no, No,

703
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: he's five nine from the combine pounds. And but man,

704
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: this guy you talk about a short, compact build. He's

705
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: got the body, control, the balance, he could stand his feet.

706
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: He's a hard guy to knock down. And I think

707
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: his lack of height actually help him get helps him

708
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: get through tiny cracks and gaps and stuff. And you

709
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: know when you feel like he's like he's trapped and

710
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: now he's out. And so I kind of I kind

711
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: of have him as this. Guys like that, you know,

712
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: caving on them, might like to talk about the three

713
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: four cheater grade. I have him as straight four on this.

714
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: But man, there's some running backs in this draft that

715
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that I'm gonna get through a

716
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 1: lot of them, but the top guys. I don't have

717
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: a first round running back, but I have a bunch

718
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I have several of them that are two's you know,

719
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Hall from Iowa State, Spiller from Texas A, and m

720
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Walker from Michigan State. Those are all like second round

721
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: running backs to me. I haven't put a third round

722
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: running back in there yet, but those are the guys

723
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: that I've kind of seen. Right now, I've watched five

724
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: running backs and I've kind of like where I feel

725
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. And I've watched ten total just for

726
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: the Draft magazine writing these these bios. And out of

727
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: the five that I've watched, Spiller, Walker, Hall or my

728
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: second round guys. And then after that, I've got Williams

729
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: because I liked his scat back ability. Here catch out

730
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: a backfield ball. Yeah, James Cook from Georgia. I've heard

731
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: good things about him, very good ball player. And then

732
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: you've got a pretty big drop off from Cook, those

733
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: five guys I feel really comfortable about. Then you've got

734
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson Junior from Alabama, DeVante Price from FIU who

735
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: we saw at the Senior Bowl, longer, taller back, and

736
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: then Abram Smith from Baylor who's just kind of a

737
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: bowling ball bounder. Well, it's there, the kid like you

738
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: mentioned Cook, Robinson White. What about your guy Abram Smith.

739
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: Did you mention him at all? Yeah? I did, And

740
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: the reason why I like him is because he's compact,

741
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: he's low tread on the tires. At the moment, he

742
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: was only a full time running back his senior year.

743
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: He was full time, but he didn't play a whole

744
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: lot of freshman in a sophomore moved them the linebacker

745
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: was nearly all Big twelve linebacker his junior year and

746
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: then flipped him back around. He had sixteen hundred yards

747
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: and a ton of touchdowns thirteen touchdowns as a as

748
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: a senior. Yeah, lowd tread on the tires. He's a

749
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: physical back. Didn't perform as well as I thought he

750
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't in Indianapolis and also in Mobile. I thought both

751
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: of them were kind of disappointed. And that might be

752
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: something why some people have talked about him as like

753
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: a fourth fifth round kind of guy. I wouldn't take

754
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: him any higher than that got you just because of

755
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: the question marks there. And I think he's a good tailback,

756
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: but he's not one of those guys that's going to

757
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: come in and be a starter initially in the draft.

758
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: What about Sam Williams from Ole Miss edge Rusher. Have

759
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: you looked at him at all? No? And then you know,

760
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: and a bunch of people have been have been tweeting

761
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: at me about him, and yeah, so I'm very very

762
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: interested about to see where he's at on the spoort.

763
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: It's amazing that I haven't got to him, and defensive

764
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: end might be the position that I've seen the most of,

765
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: which is really funny. Seven twelve another sixteen. I've seen

766
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: sixteen guys and I haven't got to him yet. So,

767
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is something I was going off.

768
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Dane bruglers Than sent me a list of guys and

769
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: maybe initially he was not one of those guys that

770
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, I know that I have to look at him.

771
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: You said you've watched sixteen guys, seventeen guys. I have

772
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: him as seventeen on my board and I haven't watched

773
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: him yet either. Yeah, Cowboys met with him in Indy,

774
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: so I know that that's one thing on him. And

775
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: then he was a late addition to the Senior Bowl roster.

776
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: There you go, So we'll answer that question at some point.

777
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: That's our homework assignment for Yeah, I mean, it's it's

778
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: it's funny because there's a lot of these guys you're

779
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: trying to kind of catch back up that maybe somebody

780
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: like I said, I've really did you miss? Yeah? Who

781
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: did I miss? You know? And I look at and

782
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at Dane Burglar's list they sent me,

783
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: and I'm counting every one of these guys and so

784
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: but there's names like Dominique Robertson from Miami, Ohio. That's

785
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: been Sam Williams from Old Miss, John Pascal from Kentucky.

786
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean dominic Robinson from Miami, Ohio is like a

787
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: two three on Dane's board. Sam Williams is a three,

788
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: you know. I mean these are guys that evidently because

789
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: I've looked at priently of the Sanders from Cincinnati, Bonito

790
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, Barno from Virginia Tech. I mean, these are

791
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: guys at all. Sam Williams is on Dane's board now

792
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: is better. But I mean, that's that's been the change

793
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: from what we've seen. Now. Going back to what you

794
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: were talking about a little bit ago about helping Dak

795
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Prescott in the way that you kind of organize your needs,

796
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: Brandon asking, I'm gonna give you five names, okay, and

797
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: these all of these guys are available to pick twenty four. Okay,

798
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: who are you taking? Treylon Burke's wide receiver out of Arkansas,

799
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: George carloftus edge rusher from Purdue, Nikobe Dean linebacker from Georgia,

800
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: Kenyon Green offensive guard from Texas A and M. And

801
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams wide receiver from Alabama. With Jamison Williams is

802
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: my number one wide receiver. So and then so then

803
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I think you would have to start as I looks

804
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: as you just named, and I'll just tell you how

805
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: my first round grades are, okay, and maybe that will help.

806
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: I've got Jamison Williams is my number one wide receiver.

807
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: I have Burkes as my number three wide receiver. You said,

808
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: who's too, just curious Wilson? Okay, okay, And then you

809
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: said the next one, you said Green. I have Green

810
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: in the second round. Okay. Now, when the Cowboys pick

811
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: at twenty four, they're gonna pick a second round grade,

812
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: likely unless somebody I've got twenty falls. Yeah, somebody falls.

813
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I've got twenty first round grades. So they're picking somebody

814
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: at twenty four, they're likely picking a second round grade

815
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: on your board, let's hope somebody falls. Yeah, let's hope

816
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: somebody falls. But yeah, the first round, Dean was my

817
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: first linebacker. Carloftus is my fourth ed rusher. The guy

818
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: that probably would help you the most is probably for

819
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: those for now, depending on what Green again, I mean,

820
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at my grades. Jamison Williams would probably

821
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: help you the most at wide receiver. Burks would probably

822
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: help you the most at wide receiver. And now you're

823
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: getting into carloft Is helping you on defense. I think

824
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: I would take Carloftis over Dean on defense there, So

825
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: is there anybody else I'm missing? Then Green would probably

826
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: be the fifth guy, but Green Green could very well

827
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: step in and be plug in play. So you're still

828
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers one two there Burks or excuse me, Williams first,

829
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: then Burks. Yeah, if you're just going for best, if

830
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: you're just going off my board, if you're saying, okay,

831
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: rank them, how they're on your board? Now, the Cowboys

832
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: could say okay Green one. Uh, they could say Carloftis two,

833
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: Dean three. You know, they could they could totally you know,

834
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: they could totally switch this thing up, and then the

835
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: wide receivers could be not the priority here. But if

836
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: you if I was drafting off my board and st

837
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: my stack, my one to one ninety, Jamison, Williams and

838
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Burkes would be over, would be over Green and Dean

839
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and is what you mentioned. Yeah, I'm with you there.

840
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: I think Williams and Burks would be over those two

841
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: guys pretty easily. Karloftis is where I kind of have pause.

842
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: See I really like George use me. Yeah, you like him,

843
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: you liked him, you like him as if guy, or

844
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: you don't like him. I like him. Okay, See that's

845
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's to me people, He's going to

846
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: be the one guy. If you said, okay, grab you know,

847
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: grab the best player of need you know that's you

848
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: just combined it too. That's all those guys are yes,

849
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 1: I'd say Williams, Burks, Karloftis, Dean, All these guys are needs.

850
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: It's a it's a really good question. Williams and Burks

851
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: are my top two wide receivers. Williams I have as

852
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: a firm first round, Burks as a firm first round,

853
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: but just a little bit below Williams. And then I've

854
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: got Garrett Wilson right there in a bunch, and then

855
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: it's Drake London, olave Met those are my next three. Yeah,

856
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: I've got four Williams Wilson, Burke's Law. They are my

857
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: four wide receiver. Sure and yeah, so I'm right there

858
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: with you. And then I turn around the edge rushers

859
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: and those top four edge rushers I can't get away

860
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: from Tobodeau, Hutchinson, Trayvon Walker from Georgia, and then Carlotas

861
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: I've seen same. Well, those four guys are there. Yeah,

862
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm all over at at twenty four. But hey, that's

863
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: a fun one, Brandon, good question. Good question. When we

864
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,440
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865
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,120
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866
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867
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Speaker 1: WrestleMania says it's an absolute blast. Oh I'm sure, whether

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Speaker 1: you like wrestling or not, you have to see it

915
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: to believe it. And you know, it's all about the showmanship,

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00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, and they and they do a great job

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00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: with that stuff. So I'm sure that it'll be I'm

918
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: not gonna go this year, probably, Yeah. And everybody once

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00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: again like way to go Broadest. You had a chance

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00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: to go and you didn't go. And I'm like, well,

921
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I don't get into the wrestling

922
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: like I once did. I'm out of town that weekend

923
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: that I'm actually sad that I'm missing it. I'm not

924
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: even a wrestling guy, which oh no, they say it's

925
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: a spectacle. It takes me a little bit to admit

926
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: that because I come from North Texas. North Texas has

927
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: a rich history of wrestlers and Von Erics, Steve Boston,

928
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: they have so many of those wrestling names. So coming

929
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: from North Texas, of course I just didn't I never

930
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: got into it. Bill Bill Mercer was Bill Mercer Huge

931
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Wrestling Sportatorium. Yeah, absolutely so, Yeah, I might have to

932
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: go at some point, but I'm not in town for

933
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: that one, which is not ideal. Final segment here the

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00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: Draft Show, presented by Miller Lyde. He's Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: some Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. We'll be back

936
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: with Hellman and Kavanaugh on Tuesday. But I thought Brian,

937
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: over the next thirteen minutes or so, we could get

938
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: into some Day three guys, And honestly, in the second segment,

939
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I think we started kind of getting into the weeds

940
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: there a little bit of Day three guys names that

941
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: we haven't necessarily touched on, because I feel like we've

942
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: hit pretty much every first round name you could possibly

943
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: get to a certain extent over the course of this show,

944
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: and then second round we've kind of tipped our toe.

945
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: What about Day three, maybe even late third round guys

946
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: that you've you've watched, but you haven't necessarily had a

947
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: chance to talk about yet. You know, I think to

948
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: me that I brought up the I brought up the

949
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: corner Emerson, Martin Emerson from Mississippi State. You know, I

950
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: really do like him. I don't know, if you've seen

951
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: Brian Cook, the safety from Cincinnati, have you looked at

952
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: him at all? No? I have not, Okay, and you know,

953
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: I think to me that you know, when you if

954
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, depending on what they do at safety, if

955
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: they don't, you know, we might all get surprised. And

956
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: da Hill is the you know, the best player on

957
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: the board, and they say, oh, we gotta have Dax

958
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Hill and you know from Michigan. But this Brian Cook

959
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati is an interesting guy just because it see

960
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: six Onei's two h six. He's a transfer from Howard

961
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: and I really really like him around the line of scripts. Okay,

962
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: you signed a Malik Hooker who could play a little

963
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: bit more with range and on the back end, so

964
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: maybe you need and depending on what you do with curse,

965
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: I think is as you know, something that we have

966
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: to also consider here. But this guy's like a really

967
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: really physical player and you know, you know, if if

968
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: you check his history too, he's had interceptions in the past,

969
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: so you know, the ball skills and stuff where there.

970
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: He had a great one handed interception in the Indiana

971
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: game I was watching, and another one against Alabama in

972
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: the playoff game that I was watching, but he's kind

973
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: of those guys that kind of floats in the secondary

974
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: and then and then like really, you know, what's this assignment?

975
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: And then he just kind of ghost with the ball,

976
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, but you see the awareness he doesn't get fooled.

977
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: He's used as a blitzer, you know. I mean, he's

978
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: got to burst in the way he plays. I just

979
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of liked him as that, you know that that

980
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: maybe that Day three guy that that has got some

981
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: toughness to him, got some coverability to him, creates turnovers

982
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: guy you can keep on keep an eye on for

983
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: that for sure. Of an aggressive player pairing with Hooker,

984
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: you can maybe put him in a rotation with Curse

985
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: as a developmental guy, not a plug and play sort

986
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: of player and prospect. I'm also reading here this was

987
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: the first year that he logged more than two hundred

988
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: and twenty snaps period. Yeah, so playing time could certainly

989
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: help him out in that regard as well. I like,

990
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: where your heads out and I'll give you, let me

991
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: give you. I'm just kind of going through my list

992
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: of guys in this in this round. If you're talking

993
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: about one technique guys and people have asked me a

994
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: lot about Uh. You know on Twitter is a John

995
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: Ridgeway from Arkansas. Yeah, okay, go ahead if you want to, Ye,

996
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I have powerful smart player, uses great technique and strength

997
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: to win at the point of attack. Run stuffer. He

998
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: anchors the middle. Uh. Not going to have that side

999
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: to side lateral movement as much as other top players

1000
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: in the draft or top interior defensive lineman. But if

1001
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: you want a run stuffer and you want a guy

1002
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: who's going to anchor the middle of your defensive lines

1003
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: so your edge guys and your linebackers can run free,

1004
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy you can pick up in

1005
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: the second and third round. Yeah. I have him more

1006
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: in the fourth myself, and I think to me, and

1007
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: he'll probably go earlier than that. But you know, here's

1008
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: the guy at six five three and twenty one pounds,

1009
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: and I mean, I think the initial quickness is there

1010
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: and then sometimes he gets stuck along the line of scrimmage.

1011
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: But he could take up the blockers like your talk about.

1012
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to get a ton of sacks.

1013
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: But the best thing he does is he pushes the middle.

1014
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: You know, I mean the strength, the power is super impressive.

1015
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: With the way this guy played. He was a transfer

1016
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: from Illinois State, and I could see him, Like I said,

1017
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: this is my notes and the last thing I could

1018
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: see this guy having a long career playing that one

1019
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: technique or nose that you know, these guys are always

1020
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: they kind of play eight ten years just taking up blocks,

1021
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: not getting pushed off the ball, being strong. John Ridgeway Arkansas.

1022
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on that one, probably maybe as a

1023
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Day three guy that do something if the Cowboys, if

1024
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: in fact they're looking for if they if they don't

1025
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to draft Matthias from Oklahoma or or

1026
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: ascue me from Alabama or Travis Jones from yukon something

1027
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: like that. Now you're talking about the guys like Ridgeway, Ferrell,

1028
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: another guy from LSU could be could definitely be in

1029
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: that mix it speaking of defensive line, and this name

1030
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: is just right in this conversation of the Jones and

1031
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the mathis is Logan Hall out of Houston. Yeah, he's

1032
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: gonna go a lot higher. But I totally, I totally

1033
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: get what you're saying here. But I don't know if

1034
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: we talked about him on this show specifically, what do

1035
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: you think about him? Because I've been a lot of

1036
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: questions about him too. I like him a lot. I

1037
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: think he's a great player. Yeah, this if if you

1038
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: remember how if you can envision David Irving, that's that's

1039
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: the body type. And because you're looking at six six

1040
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: and two eighty three, maybe a little bit heavier than

1041
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: what than what David Irving was, But he's a three

1042
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: technique that people kind of feel like that he might

1043
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: be a defensive end to be an edge because I

1044
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: was thinking he was more like a five technique, which

1045
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: is in a three four front plays head up on

1046
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: the tackle in that, you know, and that kind of thing.

1047
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: But I think he could play as the three. I

1048
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: think he could play as a five. That he's got

1049
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: that kind of ability I see, Like there, man, there's

1050
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: like some serious power with this guy. And there's several

1051
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: times when you watch him walk those guards back into

1052
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: the pocket and he runs really really well for his size.

1053
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't get stuck in place too often, and he

1054
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: watched him control the gaps. Because of his size and

1055
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: his length, he's able to kind of extend on guys. Now,

1056
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: if you're interested in param the yeah, Guards Center from Memphis,

1057
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: get a hold of the Houston Memphis game, and you

1058
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: can watch those two go at it, because it was

1059
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: a pretty good battle when those sides. So if you're

1060
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: looking for you know, if you're looking to try and

1061
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: sell parm to somebody, he did a pretty good job

1062
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: against Logan A Logan Hall and Parm was at the

1063
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: time was a smaller guy who's kind of bulked up

1064
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: his you know, bulked up a little bit. But it

1065
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: was a pretty good battle between those guys. I watched

1066
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: that game. I watched SMU, I watched Cincinnati, and I'm

1067
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: right there with you. That five technique is something that

1068
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: is really intriguing. Do you have him in the interior

1069
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: would you rather have outside? I have him in. I

1070
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: put him as I left him at. I left him

1071
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,959
Speaker 1: at the three technique. I left him at the three

1072
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: And just because I kind of feel like that you

1073
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: know him, you know him Wyatt Lyale, you know Texas

1074
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: A and m Georgia guys, I kind of got him

1075
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: in that mix. I have this as a second round guy. Yeah,

1076
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: and then you know in the third round, then you

1077
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: know Winfrey would be a guy that's from the Oklahoma

1078
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 1: cat there. So yeah, I mean they're kind of all

1079
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: in that in that it's a really good group of

1080
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: a good little pocket of those one and three technique

1081
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: guys any day three linebackers that you've had your eye

1082
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: on it all. Yeah, I mean I watched I watched Beavers,

1083
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: and I maybe, yeah, maybe I'm a little a little

1084
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: bit a little bit low on Beavers. But you know,

1085
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: he's a guy. I had him in the fourth round

1086
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna go higher than that, but I

1087
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: just didn't. I mean, he's really kind of and there's

1088
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: this draft has a couple of these guys. He's throwbacks

1089
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: six four, two hundred and thirty seven pound linebackers that

1090
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, but during this draft, and you know, he

1091
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: has the size. You know, I can say he has

1092
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: that size of a guy from another era of football.

1093
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: And but I do feel like he's got some range

1094
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: and I do feel really he's really good when the

1095
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: ball goes right at him because he's got the size

1096
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: and the strength to take blockers on and make the play.

1097
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: He's a good tackler. He's not gonna miss many of

1098
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: those that I saw. Many of his coverage snaps aren't

1099
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: the types of plays where her he drops and then

1100
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: he can handle you know. I mean, he's just a

1101
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: kind of a basic cover guy, and so I'm kind

1102
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: of a I'm kind of a fan of his, but

1103
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: I saw there were some things that the cabbage wise

1104
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: bothered me a little bit, and it maybe, like I said,

1105
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: is uh, you know that would be something. How many

1106
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: downs does this guy really really get to play? But

1107
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: if you watch him in the Notre Dame game and

1108
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that, man, he created some turnovers and so

1109
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: you have to be you have to give him a

1110
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: tip of the cat for that. My favorite fun fact

1111
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: about Darien Beavers is the fact that he was a

1112
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: receiver and a safety in high school. You think about

1113
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: six foot four, two US and thirty pounds rolling down

1114
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: the sideline at wide receiver. And then he went to

1115
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: Yukon initially and then transferred from Yukon to Cincinnati. And

1116
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: we make the joke about Georgia, how Georgia is gonna

1117
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: have an entire roster drafted. Cincinnati's got some defensive studs

1118
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: and a couple offensive guys for that matter, with a

1119
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 1: quarterback and Ritter and Alec Pierce a wide receiver, They've

1120
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: got guys scattered all throughout this trap. Yeah, and if

1121
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: I can give you one other player to please, and

1122
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: this is like this Charlie Kohler higher. I mean, then,

1123
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give you a name of a guy

1124
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Jake Ferguson from Wisconsin is

1125
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: a six five, two hundred and fifty pound tied in

1126
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: and this guy's got some really really soft hands. I

1127
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: mean he catches the ball super easily that he didn't

1128
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: fight it at all. He kind of frees himself downfield,

1129
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: like his big move his arm over and then like

1130
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: you get up on him and he like arm overs

1131
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: and then he gets into his route. So you'll see

1132
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: this like two or three times a game that he

1133
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: does that. But he'll line up at various spots. Kind

1134
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: of feel like his best work is when he can

1135
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: line up in the slot as opposed to being in line.

1136
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: But he knows how to get open in the red

1137
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: zone and his height and his length give him a

1138
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: little bit of an advantage when he's in this area.

1139
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: And he's got some really kind of some nifty moves

1140
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: as well, So finishing blocks not the strongest suit of his.

1141
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: He had a block in the Penn State game where

1142
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: he came off the ball and really punished this guy

1143
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: and that was kind of the first time I was like, WHOA,

1144
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: I guess he's capable of doing that. But there's times

1145
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: where he will catch a ball and go to the

1146
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 1: ground too. Maybe not a whole heck of a lot

1147
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: after the catch, but that red zone stuff and the

1148
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: soft receiver like hands really kind of get me a

1149
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: gimmick going there. I like the idea of him being

1150
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: a blocker too, because he's a solid blocker. Yeah, and

1151
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: then he's probably a step down from the Widermeyer's and

1152
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: the McBride's yeah, dull shit shit and the records of

1153
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, probably that second tier of tight end. Yeah,

1154
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a group and keep an eye on

1155
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: there's a group like a Coal Turner is another guy

1156
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: out of Nevada. Yeah, that I think I got this

1157
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: in this like fourth round group of tight ends. Cole

1158
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: Turner from Nevada, Coal Cohler from Iowa State, Ferguson from

1159
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin who I mentioned and likely isn't that group too.

1160
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: That's Coastal Carolina right, yes, where that guy's so. Yeah,

1161
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: those are all kind of those guys in that fourth

1162
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: round that you know, if the cowboys, you know, if

1163
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: that's the route they want to go. If it's just

1164
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: kind of a one year deal for Dalton Schultz, I

1165
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of feel like there's a good group of tight

1166
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: ends from rounds three and four that you can maybe

1167
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe grab a guy from and then well, I'm gonna

1168
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: end this segment. We've only got about a minute left.

1169
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: But where we started with the secondary, one more name

1170
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: out of the secondary that's like a late third round,

1171
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: fourth round guy, maybe even Day three guy that you

1172
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: really like as maybe that backup plan if the Cowboys.

1173
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I love Marcus Jones, the short a short corner from Houston.

1174
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that people will probably ding

1175
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: him for being, you know, for his lack of height.

1176
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: I think he's right at five eight is what, Yeah,

1177
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: five eight, one seventy four. This is guy. And I'm

1178
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: just gonna this and I'll leave it with this. This

1179
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: is one of the the most dynamic players I've I've studied

1180
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: in the country this year. I mean, he can play

1181
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: as a specialist and as a returner. He could be

1182
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: in nickel. He's fearless, the way he plays with the

1183
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, the change of direction, all that stuff.

1184
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: He'll come forward, he'll make plays I said in my

1185
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: last line, don't sleep on this player due to his height.

1186
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: He is really a good player. I think you're spot on.

1187
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Because he is short, he's he's five eight, He's won

1188
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: seventy four. He's not He's not perfect for everybody, but

1189
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: somebody is going to get He started his career at

1190
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: Troy there in Alabama and then transferred to Houston. But man,

1191
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: this guy sees the entire field and he has rare

1192
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: ability as a returner. He probably really does. I had

1193
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: a note that you had mentioned him, yeah, about a

1194
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: month ago. Keep an eye on him, and keep an

1195
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: eye on him. He's worked his way in a couple

1196
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: of weeks. Gonna Yeah, he's gonna go a lot earlier

1197
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: than I have him. But I just I think the

1198
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: players got some special traits to him. Don't look the

1199
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: lack of height fool you there that this guy's gonna

1200
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: play in the league. Well, Brian, it was a lot

1201
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: of fun. He was fun. Thank you, man, I appreciate you. Absolutely.

1202
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Tuesday with Jeff Kavanaugh, David Hellman

1203
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: and the entire group here from the Star in Frisco.

1204
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: Hope this made you feel a little bit better. About

1205
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: what has been a frustrating week for Cowboys fans. But

1206
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: that's okay. We're all ways looking forward to the future

1207
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: for Chris being Brian brought us some Kyle yeomans. We'll

1208
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: see you next time on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1209
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,880
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