1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports where in the situation 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: that we haven't dealt with in modern times, pandemic here 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: has really accelerated the investments that we've been advocating for 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: for years. From a macro standpoint, I think our sport 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: industry is really forced to look at the business a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: little bit differently. In depth conversations with the leaders in 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the sports industry, who wants to be the sacrificial lambs 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: That shows up that the first big major sporting event 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: part of something much bigger than the sports right now, 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: and the health and saptry of our stakeholders that looks 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: much important every moment. I think we're all from the 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: business respective thinking about the impact that the virus is 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: having across the country. In Bloomberg Business of Sports from 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, Hello, I'm Jason Kelly, and I'm Mike Lynch 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: and I'm Michael Barr. Over the next hour, we will 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and talked to some of the biggest players in the industry. 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: And we're taking a wider lens this week, guys. Later 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: on we're going to speak with Florida State Seminal standout 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Rhodes scholar and now neurosurgeon. My en role he played 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now he is literally on the front 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: lines of this crisis. So looking forward to that. But first, 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the things we've seen this week. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I think we all saw the World Series, guys, but 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: fewer people saw it. Congrats to the Dodgers. But uh, 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: if a World Series ring uh is placed on a 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Dodgers hand and no one is there to see it, 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: does it actually happen? Uh? Lynchy, this is not good 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: news for the rating side. No. Thirty six percent down 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: from last year, lower than the most recent low, which 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: was the Giants Detroit Tigers. You know, a rating of 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: five point to nationally, but you go to l A 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: they had a one point two and a forty share. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: So it seems to be regional interests rather than national 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: interest or worldwide interest. So what do you think it was, bar? 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, were you watching? I watched some. I didn't 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: get a chance to see you all because I work 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and get up very early in the morning to to 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: get here, so I couldn't see all the games. But 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I was amazed the Saturday game. Uh. 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Last Saturday because that's the one where the Dodgers lost 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: in in incredible fashion. I'm amazed that that didn't even 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: get a higher rating than what I'm seeing here. So, Lynchy, 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: here's what confuses me is that for other sports, like 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: even for the NBA, their ratings were down pretty dramatically 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: too for the finals. But there were sort of an excuse, 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: right in the sense of like, well, people aren't used 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: to watching the NBA Finals in October. Um. For other sports, 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: you sort of get it, But but this is actually, 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, baseball essentially finished up time wise when they 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: were supposed to. What do you think the problem is, Well, 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: I think it's the problem we've talked about for a 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: long long time. Baseball has not had a grip on 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: the younger generation for some time. I enjoyed the games. 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of drama. I thought 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: there were a lot of subplots there that the you 57 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: know was Davy against Goliath with the Tampa Bay Rays 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: coming in, uh, and there was Mookie Bets and and 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the Dodgers went one since nineteen and but it's it's 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: still just doesn't reach down and it's a game that 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: just takes too long. I mean, the games are getting 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: over at eleven thirty quarter or twelve at night, and 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: people just, you know, they they may hang for a 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: football game that's you know, a three point game, but 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: they're not going to hang for six two baseball game 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: that's getting over at eleven thirty at night. Yet to me, 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: it does not bode well for baseball. But you know, 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: I'll take it a step further and say, maybe it 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: doesn't bode well for sports right now in the pandemic, 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: given that we were so excited to have sports back 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: us more than anyone, I think, and clearly there was 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: a demand to watch it, we thought, but maybe that 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: demand isn't quite there because life is strange. The games 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: are a little bit different, you know. Obviously, even though 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: there were some fans in the stands for the World Series, 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, it was very limited capacity, only about eleven 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: people a neutral site. It's not the same thing as 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: hoisting that trophy, you know, at Chavez Ravine. And I 79 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: wonder what this tells us about what happens next. Michael 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Barr Well, I think something you have to keep in 81 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: mind too is that and I'm speaking as as geezer bar. 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm just used to watching the game on TV, and 83 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: if I really want to get high tech, I'll go cable. 84 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: But people start streaming stuff all over the place. There's 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: a brand new audience for the way people watch sports. 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: It's not just on the flat screen TV anymore. So, Lynchy, 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: as we look out um to the end of twenty 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: and the beginning of twenty one, I think one thing 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: that's become clear is that we're not getting back to 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: normal sports anytime soon. A lot of debate about when 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: the NBA, so pretty ferocious debate about when the NBA 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: is going to start, what sort of capacity there's going 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: to be at the Super Bowl. There were some reports 94 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: this week that you know, twenty sent maybe the number 95 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: at best, maybe it's a little higher. Boston Marathon has 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: been called off. We're not getting back to normal anytime 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: sown No, And I look at just sticking with baseball 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: for one second. Opening Day is supposed to be April 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: first next year, and it's still on as of now. 100 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: But if there are no fans in the stands, I 101 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: can't see a schedule lasting a hundred sixty two games, 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: so that's going to have to be truncated. Um. The 103 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Winter Classic, which the NHL usually plays on New Year's 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Day has been called off. NBA wants to try to 105 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: get going before Christmas, which I think is really some 106 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: type of a stretch, and the the the lost Child 107 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: and all of this. Who's probably suffered the most. Minor 108 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: league Baseball this year was wiped out so many teams 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: of the Major League Baseball reduced the number of minor 110 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: league affiliations and all these small towns. The Red Sox 111 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: just dismissed a manager from the Portland Sea Dogs because 112 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: they're just they've lost so much money that they are 113 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: they're just eliminated and go overhead. And so I think 114 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: it's a very cloudy, very foggy, very unsure sports picture. 115 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: No Boston Marathon. Yeah, that's how they're gonna try to fall. Yeah, 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to do it in the fall. But 117 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: then you know, you run into the people that are 118 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: running in the New York Marathon, and you know it's 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: something like you can run a marathon every other day. Right. 120 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: That is a good point. That is a good point. Um, So, 121 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: bar I mean, does it I want to go back 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: to something you said, because I think it's it's really 123 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: an important thing. Part of this is about how we 124 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: consume in many ways. I mean, I think about my 125 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: kids and not just what they consume, my teenagers, but 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: how they do it. They live in an on demand world, 127 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: and sports, you know, was long the last bastion of 128 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: appointment viewing, and maybe people just don't want to keep 129 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: appointments anymore. I remember Monday night football on ABC and yeah, Dandy, 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Don Howard, Frank I was there and you didn't miss it. 131 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: And it's and that was on a school night because 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: you knew people were going to talk about it the 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: next day. Uh So I'm not I'm not sure now 134 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: what happens you're write an appointment TV is not the 135 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: way it used to be anymore because well back in 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: the day with the old VCR, they used to call 137 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: it time shifting. Now it's you know, it's just you know, 138 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: I'll watch it whenever I'm good and ready, well, and 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: you'll watch highlights, you know what I mean. Like, I 140 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: think for a lot of people, and I've certainly been 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: guilty of this. I mean, I will confess here in 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: in front of you guys and our audience, like I 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: didn't stay up and watch the entire Dodgers rais game. 144 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: I saw them pull snell. I saw the Dodgers pull ahead, 145 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna go to bed. I mean, 146 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: had the Braids been playing, I would have stayed up 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: till till the bitter end. And it's too soon to 148 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: talk about that, but uh, you know, I'm guilty of 149 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, I was unaware of the jug 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: I had the I saw him Wilkie Bets hit the 151 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: home run, and then I don't know, I just I 152 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: didn't have the sound on because I was reading The Destiny, 153 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: the the Jeff Benedict book, And uh, I didn't know 154 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: about the Justin Turner situation until the next morning and 155 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: it was all over Twitter. I said, oh my goodness. 156 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Then I went back and I read the story and 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: I said, oh, I just slapping my forehead. That's certainly 158 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: front and center in terms of controversy and bad decision making. Yeah. So, this, 159 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: of course, for for those of you who missed it, 160 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: was that the third baseman for the Dodgers, Justin Turner, 161 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: got a positive COVID test into the game. Like, he 162 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't get alerted until he was deep into the game. 163 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: He was isolated, but then he decided that he didn't 164 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: want to be isolated anymore, came out celebrated with the team. 165 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: So that story is not over yet, um, and it's 166 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: probably will have taken some turns even by the time 167 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: you're listening to this, uh this weekend. We're taping on 168 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: a Thursday morning. But uh, certainly a sour note. It 169 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: feels like, guys, for this championship, a well deserved championship 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: by by all accounts for the Dodgers Lynch as he 171 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: said the first sight, but a reminder, and we're going 172 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: to talk with Myron Roll coming up in a few minutes, 173 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: that the virus really finds its way into just about 174 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: every aspect of our lives without question. And I you know, 175 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: I can see the urgency if if we've ever been 176 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: to Dodger Stadium, you walk down, you take the elevator 177 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: all the way down to the ground floor, and you 178 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: walk down this hallway and there's pictures of all the 179 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: great Dodgers and the Hall of Fame Dodgers, and there's 180 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: pictures of their World Championship teams. And I know it 181 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: was going to turn his mind. That picture is going 182 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: to hang on that hallway in perpetuity. And I want 183 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: to be in that picture and nobody unless they handcuffed 184 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: me to a doctor's office, in the in the in 185 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: the clubhouse, I'm going out and getting in that picture. 186 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: And he didn't think. Um people could say it was selfish, irresponsible. Yes, 187 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: all those fit, but I'm just assuming what's going through 188 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: his head in his mind. Well before we wrap up here. Yes, 189 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: I understand that the players they want to celebrate. You've 190 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: won the World Series, but you got yanked out of 191 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: the game in the eighth and because you tested positive. 192 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's this is yea who, 193 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: this is your moment, and this and that whatever, But 194 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: come on, man, now, now you've are taking the chance 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: of affecting everybody in that shot. And I would like 196 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: to see what happens a couple of days down the road. Today, 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: we're delighted to be speaking with Dr Myron Role. He 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: joins us from Boston. So many things to talk about 199 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: because he's the chairman of the Myron L. Roll Foundation. 200 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: He's a neurosurgery resident at Herr Medical School and Mass 201 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: General Hospital in Mike Lynch's backyard. He also played in 202 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, a standout in college football as well. Dr 203 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Role really really nice to have you with us. It's 204 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: hard to decide where to begin with you, but we 205 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: are the business of sports. So let's talk about sports. 206 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the NFL from the outside looking in, 207 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: understanding so intimately, as you do this health crisis that 208 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: we're in the midst of house football doing, I think 209 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: football struggling and I love football. Obviously. My father started 210 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: the Caribean American Football League down in the Bahamas, and UM, 211 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: when we came to America, taught me the game. You know, 212 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: my cousins Andrel and Samari and Brian all play in 213 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. UM I went to Florida State to play 214 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: professional football. So I love the sportsman, still watch it 215 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: as a as a fan and aviad spectator. But UM, 216 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: I feel that the sport is having its challenges, admits 217 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the pandemic that's not fully controlled. Uh. You know, from 218 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: high school onto college and in the professional ranks in 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, you're just seeing um outbreaks occur. You're seeing 220 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: schedules be disrupted, You're seeing players knocked off their rhythm. 221 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: And one thing that football players love, UM is to 222 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: have that routine, have that rhythm, know where you're gonna 223 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: be on time. We always talked about being on time 224 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: and on schedule with your plays, in your rhythm as 225 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: far as backpedaling, as I say, if the making sure 226 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: you take four or five back pedals and then breaking 227 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: on the ball, it's just a field that you get. 228 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: And when you don't have that opportunity to exercise that 229 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: during practice, during game, as they've maybe being shifted during 230 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: season that's been delayed, it just it makes you wonder, 231 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, are we more focused on this elective sport 232 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: like football that's not essential, that doesn't have to happen 233 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: right now, or more concerned about the money that's around 234 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: football that's made in college and pros, especially as opposed 235 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: to the safety of our players, the safety of the staff, 236 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: safety of the families of these players and staff. And 237 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: I think that it gets called into question when you 238 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: see the struggles that UM is happening. Let part right now. Dr. 239 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to ask, yes, you you were drafted in 240 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, UH and now you are a neurosurgeon. It's 241 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: that's a great transition. Can you can you take us 242 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: through that and and the experience that you through to 243 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: get you to this path in life. Yeah, it was 244 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: a path that um you know, my family and my 245 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: parents saw for me early um now, coming from the Bahamas. 246 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, my folks wanted me and my father 247 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: brothers to have role models, uh to, to look forward to, 248 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: to aspire to, to believe that once we got to 249 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: this country there was an abundancet of resources and ample 250 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: opportunities for us to maximize our abuilding our potential. They 251 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: felt that there was no ceiling on our growth if 252 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: we had someone to shoot towards. And they put the 253 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: book gifted hands in front of me by then Carson, 254 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: pediatric neurs surgeon from JOHNS Hopkins, separating the two twins 255 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: who were conjoined at the occipital lobe and both of 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: them lived for the first time. Um you know, came 257 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: from not a lot of money like us, and had 258 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: parents and focused and education like mine did. So he 259 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: became my academic hero. It's Nerros surgeon, and he planted 260 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the seed of that science, that discipline in my head. 261 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: And I knew once football was done, once I exhausted 262 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: all authentic ability out of my body, that neurosurgery would 263 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: be the next chapter of my life where I can 264 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: potentially have an impact and influence you know, society and 265 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: maybe save a life. But then it's sort of morphed 266 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: into this calling where I could stay connected to football, 267 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: with traumatic brain injury, with concussions, with all things related 268 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: to head injury, UM, whether it be assault related accidents 269 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: or through sports, I can just stay connected to something 270 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: that I've enjoyed my whole life. And so there's been 271 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, great um, a cross pollination of both of 272 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: my passions, both of my interests, and in particular I'm 273 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: going into pediatric neurosurgery once I've finished our part national hospitals. 274 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: So being able to affect change in the life of 275 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: younger people who have a lifetime of success in front 276 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: of them, it's going to be exciting. So it's it's 277 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: been a a great transition. It's been an amazing experience, 278 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: and I've been able to use a lot of what 279 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I learned from football to playing focus, hard work, overcoming adversity, 280 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: taking coaching, taking criticism, mitigating pressure, being at that being flexible. 281 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Things I had to do every day on the football field, 282 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: in the practice field, the weight room I'm able to 283 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: use now as a physic has been Greatmaren, let me 284 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: ask you this, if knowing what you know. Now, if 285 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: you were a player in the NFL, would you have 286 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: played this season or would you have opted out? I 287 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: would have opted out. I would have opted out like 288 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: several players. Um. You know, several players here in the 289 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Patriots New England have opted out and um, because there's 290 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: so much uncertainty around uh COVID nineteen and I'm still 291 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: seeing it hit. Our hospital right Boston is actually getting 292 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: a spike in cases right now. But our hospital has 293 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: patients who are COVID nineteen positive. There are surgical patients, 294 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: so I've taken care of who have either been exposed 295 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: or positive. I've operated on patients who are COVID nineteen positive. 296 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: So it hasn't stopped. And so people are still being hospitalized, 297 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: being affected in a way that's taking them away from 298 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: their family, disrupting their normal life, putting them in intensive 299 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: care units with a cute settings and acute nurse and 300 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: care around the clotch. Um. But yeah, we want to 301 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: play this elective sport that's outside, not in a bubble. 302 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Variable is not controlled. Um, you know, testing his nasal 303 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: fare and ngeal swabs are done, but they're not done 304 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: as thorough as it used to be done at least 305 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: when the season started with non compliance with mask wearing 306 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Up shore, there's noncompliance if you go 307 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: into a lock NFL facility and they're in their locker round. 308 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: So there's just so much uncertainties around it. I would 309 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: have protected myself, my family. I just became a new 310 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: father of two twins, newborns eight weeks old, so there's 311 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: just so many things going on right now. I said, no, 312 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, I would just sit out, but yes, 313 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I'm very excited about being a 314 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: new father. That's great. Well, I mean I bet you 315 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: were tired before being a resident. I mean, this is 316 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: you're really doubling down on on exhaustion there, Myron. Yeah, 317 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, man waking up to Zora 318 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: that's her name, and Ziet as the boy. Um waking 319 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: up to them crying. Uh feels like I'm getting a 320 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: page in the middle of the night for somebody who 321 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: you know needs me to fully change or something like that. 322 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: So it's okay. I love waiting for that, you know. Yeah, 323 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: it's been good. Um. And then my wife is a 324 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: pediatric dentist and she's been amazing. I have my mother 325 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: helping us, So we're getting all the support we can get. Myron, 326 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit. He's sort of widening 327 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: the aperture a little bit. Talk to us about this 328 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: virus and where we are. I mean, you are on 329 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: the front lines, as so many healthcare workers, first responders 330 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: have been. You have seen things that we have not seen. 331 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: You understand it medically from the broadest sort of societal 332 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: perspective and maybe the narrowist in terms of what you see, 333 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: what we know, and what should What's the most important 334 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: thing for us to know about this virus right here 335 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: in October. Yeah, the virus is very infectious, as I 336 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of us do know. Uh, the transmission 337 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: rates are very high, and it can get transmitted airborne. UM. 338 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: It was debated at one point whether it was airborne 339 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: or not. But we think we've studied, studied enough and 340 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: have enough data points and data entries to uh realize 341 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 1: that this may be another mode of transmission contact as 342 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: well as droplets. UM. We know that it hits vulnerable populations, 343 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: people who are sick at baseline was compromised immune systems, 344 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: and older individuals. However, it does also hit individuals who 345 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: have poor access to care. And that's the health disparity 346 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: that exists amidst all diseases basically any emerging noncommunical disease 347 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: or you know, digestive health, uh, you know, tumors or 348 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. UM. People who have neglect 349 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: or just maybe just don't have access to primary care physicians, 350 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: to supervirus or monitoring their symptoms UM are getting hit 351 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: really hard. And we're seeing that here. Uh it's a 352 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: disease that really affects the lungs. For sure. It can 353 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: scar the lungs once it gets into the angio tempts 354 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: in converting enzyme sort of spaces which are your lungs 355 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: and can make oxygen recruitment and oxygen consumption very difficult. Uh. 356 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: So this requires a lot of individuals taken care of 357 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: these patients. Are children better off fighting this disease than adults? 358 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: So preliminary studies and and studies that we've seen a 359 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: broad actually have shown h that children are carriers, but 360 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: they're uh, they don't have the same level of morbidity 361 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: or mortality with or mentality I should say, uh, from 362 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the virus. UM. That's not to say that that they 363 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: may not have long term effects. And I think that's 364 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: the thing that also needs to be um really emphasized here, 365 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: is that, yes, the virus is a time where you 366 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: can get over it. There's a time where you can 367 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: get through it. There's a time where potentially you've recovered. 368 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: But what does that look like going forward? What does 369 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: that look like, UM for your auction and capacity as 370 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: you move two or three years away from this current pandemic, 371 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: does that mean that you're not gonna be able to 372 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: expand your lungs as much? Does that mean memory problems 373 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: and neurological that which just may occur our your kidneys 374 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: going to be an issue as well? Your other body 375 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: systems and organs need to work still amidst you know, 376 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: finding a COVID nineteen and so you know, how are 377 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: these things going to be affected? I think only time 378 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: will tell that. So I feel that the rush to 379 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: return our economy, return to some sense of normalcy really 380 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: takes a very superficial and shallow look at well what 381 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: happens long term affecting these patients. And I think children 382 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: are in including that conversation because we've seen them positiveness, 383 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: but maybe don't die or have the same level of 384 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: mortality as some of the older individuals. Myron, you told us, 385 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: and we're gonna send some what New England Patriots ones. 386 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: He's over for the twins, by the way, to get 387 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: them started with the right team. But but I can 388 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: only imagine your fear level going home to a pregnant 389 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: wife every night when you're on the front line of 390 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: this thing every single day. I mean, how did you 391 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: handle that mentally? It was very difficult. In fact, when 392 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: uh LaToya was first first, let me back up, she 393 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: told me that she was pregnant. When I finished an operation, 394 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: I was in the operating room. They said, rolling your 395 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: wife on the phone. I was okay, it's never can 396 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: be good when they're calling it to the operating room 397 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: and she tells me, Hey, I'm pregnant. Oh my gosh, 398 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's amazing God. It's a blessing 399 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: from God. She says. But there's two And I said, 400 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: what It really knocked me out. Now. The surgery went 401 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: very well, and then that news was amazing too, So 402 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: it was like a double hit that day. And when 403 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, COVID starts really come through our city in Boston. 404 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: Uh and I started to work these you know, twenty 405 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: four hour shifts every other day. Basically actually sent her 406 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: away and that was challenging. I sent her home to 407 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Georgia where she's from, to be with her sister and 408 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: her brother in law, UM and sort of you know, 409 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I just communicated via FaceTime the whole time because I 410 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: did not want, um need to put her omer are 411 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: yet born children in any risks and I was taking 412 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: all the rest to myself and I wanted that. So 413 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: it was very hard emotionally and mentally, but I try 414 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: to stay close to her. I stay close to my 415 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: face and praying about it, and UM, you know, she 416 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: checked in with me all the time, and it was difficult. 417 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: And that's another untold part of the story of health 418 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: care workers going through this, the families and the strain 419 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: that exists there and certainly was present with us as well. 420 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: I would like to ask about the role foundation. Uh, 421 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: can you tell us what the foundation is all about 422 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: and your association with it. So the foundation was started 423 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: two thousand nine because I had all these ideas of 424 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: how I wanted to drive change into the world of 425 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: good positive you know, effications change, and that did not 426 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: have an organized conduit to do it. And the foundation 427 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: provided that for me and my family, and so we 428 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: do health wellness and education initiatives in underserved populations in 429 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: Florida UH and back home in the Bahamas. Would work 430 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: with foster children who work in Seminole tribal Florida Native 431 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: Americans who also working have a Hopi and Pueblo Windians 432 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: in New Mexico and Arizona, but primarily in the some 433 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: of our tribe. We work with foster children back home 434 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: in the Bahamas as well. We're building a free health 435 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: clinic uh in UH in the Bahamas for better access 436 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: equality care. And the most recent initiative that we're doing, 437 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: which we're very excited about, is working with the Boys 438 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: and the First Club up here in Boston and doing 439 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: something called the Neuroside Trip is basically a way to 440 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: make neuroscience and neurosurgery fun for some of the you know, 441 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: disenfranchised folks a Roxbury and Mattapan. Some of the more 442 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: understved areas of the Boston are location U where we 443 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: basically talked about like if you're on yourself phone the time, 444 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: tweeting and instagramming and tiktoking, you're using all these different 445 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: avenues and pathways of your brain, and we'll talk about that. 446 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about which areas of being lit up while 447 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: you use these things that you every day, or maybe 448 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: you're reciting your favorite song and dancing to your favorite song, 449 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: you're using different pathways in your brain, and let's talk 450 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: about that. Let's make it fun and interesting so that 451 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: exposure maybe can help recruit the next great nerve surgeon 452 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: to come from Boston or Mattapan. Are these areas locally 453 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: So we're excited about that too. Iron The more I 454 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: talk to you and listen to you, I'm feeling so 455 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: inadequate in my life. By year you were just I 456 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: tell you what, I am just so impressed here. Um not. 457 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned that you're You're a Rhodes Scholar, 458 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: which is something you have to be very very proud of. 459 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: And I think there's only thirty two of them per year. Um, 460 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: you were sitting in an NFL locker room as a 461 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: young twenty two or twenty three year old At one 462 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: time you probably thought you were invincible. What message do 463 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: you have to these rookies here who think they can 464 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: go out and socialize with people and the virus won't 465 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: get them. Wow, great question. I'd say that, well, you 466 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: you are not convictionable. Um, you have a target on 467 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: your back. Target on your back for many reasons. One 468 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: financially because now I'm sure, uh, you are likely the 469 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: main breadwinner of your family. You are now no longer John, 470 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: no longer am, no longer Myron. You are now a 471 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: g M to a lot of your family and friends 472 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: who will look to cash in on some of their 473 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: time they spent with you out of a child or 474 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: there to to lose that they gave you, um, whether 475 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: it was genuine or not. They want to make sure 476 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: that you understand that they were there for you, and 477 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: now it's time for you to be there for them. 478 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: So that's important as far as you know, making sure 479 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: that you protect yourself and this virus. I think it's 480 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: about educating yourself. The thing that that trumbles me with 481 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: a football player sometimes, uh, is that you know, we're 482 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: so good at studying playbooks and remembering trends and recognizing 483 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: patterns and staying you know, strict to our our our discipline, 484 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: our diets are workout regiments, are routines, being on time 485 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: and all these things that make you a wonderful employee 486 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: and frankly a wonderful leader. Uh, and then we don't 487 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: transition that those same traits to something else that matters 488 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: like this. So what I mean by that is, use 489 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: all those same traits that makes you a great athlete, 490 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: make you a great player, that got you to that 491 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: locker room, to educate yourself and really give yourself a 492 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: good foundation of principles on what this virus is doing. 493 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: Read about articles that come out of you know, countries 494 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: that were hit hard, Italy and and parts of China. 495 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps listen to some of the health experts. Go to 496 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: the CDC website. Um, you know, go to big research 497 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: institutions like Cleveland clinic, like the Mayo Clinic. Light match 498 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: out of the hospital and see what we're doing our 499 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: studies and what the best ways we have asked to 500 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: protect ourselves and healthcare workers and others around. Do your 501 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: homework pattern recognize, uh, you know, learn trends. You know, 502 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: study this like you're studying your playbook, because it matters. 503 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: It's important to you and your family. And uh, if 504 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: you do that, I think you'll you'll get out ahead. 505 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: So that's the advice I give to a young person. 506 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: You have a right, few, you're beyond just playing football. 507 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: Don't be limited to just a moment. Think about your future. Well, 508 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: Dr Myron Roll, it's been a real pleasure to to 509 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: catch up with you. We're all I think I speak 510 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: for all of us, and we say we're incredibly impressed 511 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: and candidly humbled by what you were doing. Uh. The 512 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: choices you've made with with your career only the best 513 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: to you and you're ever growing family, it sounds like, 514 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: and uh, we can't wait to catch up with you 515 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: in the future and see what happens next. So we 516 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you guys very much 517 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. Take care all right, pill, alright, 518 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: so guys, Uh, Lyncha, I think you said it best. Uh. 519 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: I feel like a massive underachiever having talked to my 520 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: roun Roll just now. Good lord, I'm just like, I'm 521 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: slouching down on my chair right here because I don't 522 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't want I feel like the back of the room. 523 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: We don't want the teacher to what to call you 524 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: up to the front of the room. I feel so inadequate. 525 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: What I tell you, I am just blown away how 526 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: how smart he is, his his perspective on the world 527 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: he can, mean what he's doing with his with his life, 528 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I he sent his pregnant wife away 529 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: to to live in Georgia while he was working. I mean, 530 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: that's a big sacrifice to make. I mean a lot 531 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: of people might say, I'm going to take a leave 532 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: of absence from work, but you know, and he's a resident, 533 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: he can't. So I'm just I'm wild. I'm wild. I'm 534 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: almost speachless. What do you think I was thinking when 535 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: we was he was talking about the foundation, and he 536 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: was saying that about how your brain is used and 537 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: how it would light up in certain spots, and I 538 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: was thinking, when I'm dancing, something else is being used 539 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: where people say, that's where my brains are. But that's 540 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: another story altogether. And I'm just impressed by that foundation 541 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: and what they present. Uh. And also his leadership when 542 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: it comes to COVID nineteen and from first hand experience 543 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: from from the medical world. Uh Uh, it is something 544 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: to here. Well, I'll tell you, I mean, I one 545 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: of the things I will take away from this conversation 546 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: for sure was your the answer to your very good question, Lynchy, 547 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: which was would you have played and he was very 548 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: firm and very quick to say no way that unequivocally. Uh. 549 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: And I think that hearing that from a hearing that 550 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: from a doctor, you'd be like, all right, yeah, that 551 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: makes sense. But hearing it from a doctor who played 552 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: in the league, who made his living, I made his 553 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: life playing football, having the information that he has ahead 554 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: of him, I think that's notable. Um and and it 555 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: it makes me a little bit worried about the state 556 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: of football for sure. Yep. I I couldn't agree more. 557 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: And boy, what are just an intelligent, smart guy who's 558 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: just got his whole future all mapped out. And uh, 559 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm just so impressed. The other thing I didn't know 560 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: about this was hydration. Uh helps the immune cells and uh, 561 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: he says, you know, get fully tanked up all the time. 562 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Everyone knows we have to hydrate, but I didn't know 563 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: that that had a direct effect on your own system exactly. 564 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go drink some water. Mandros will 565 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: because that's it feels better to be number one than 566 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: number five. I'll wear a number because of Mike. We 567 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: have a chance to go for three in a row. 568 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Because numbers are a good time and I's first started 569 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: wearing the number, I would just happy and Bloomberg Business 570 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: of Sports, the number of the week. Guess what Dad is? 571 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: Guess what Dad is? Mike time. I don't know why 572 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: they stopped that commercial. I love that commercial Number of 573 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: the week. Gentlemen, this one, I'm just gonna tell the 574 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: story and and then I want you to guess what 575 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: the number is. Forty one year old insurance agent out 576 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: of St. Louis Ron Hudson. He thought he won the 577 00:30:51,320 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: million dollars. Oh he knows. He thought he won, but 578 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: there was a stat correction and he lost first place prize. 579 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: He got some money. I feel horrible by this story. 580 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I want to start with you, Jason. How much do 581 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: you think poor Rob Hunts he got once he found 582 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: out what he really want this and he was playing 583 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL Milliemaker. I am going to defer to 584 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch because I feel like he knows this already 585 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna embarrass myself, So I I am 586 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: deferring to you Lynchi. He came up in his computer, 587 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: he went out to walk his dog, and UH came 588 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: back on his computer. He won a million dollars because 589 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: of the number of sacks in the Monday night game 590 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: between the Rams and the who they play the Bears. 591 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: The Bears um he won the million dollars. He called 592 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: his family and he were all excited. But then the 593 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: statistician in the booth changed a sack to an incomplete 594 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: pass and he from a million to I believe three 595 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars three thousand, seventy eight dollars and ninety four 596 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: cents in an eighteen way tie for sixth place. That 597 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: has got to be one of the hardest moments. Now. 598 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: The reason why they said that it was not a 599 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: sack is because he had receivers that were blocking for 600 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: him and it turned out instead to be uh three 601 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: yard lost. But of course you talked to Hunts like 602 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: it had to be a sack. There's no other way 603 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: to look at it. Well, the NFL disagreed with that. 604 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh Rob huntsy Man, you have my heart, buddy. Uh 605 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: you thought you had first place prize in the DraftKings 606 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: contest and then you held into an eighteen way tie 607 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: for six places. I would just like to make a 608 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: case that that guy should never buy a drink for 609 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: himself and ever for the rest of his life. Everybody 610 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: if you're if you're ever if wherever at bars again, 611 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: and you're at a bar with this guy by the 612 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: guy beer that sucks? Is that really? That? Really? Is it? 613 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: As they say, a tough beat. Yeah, that's the worst 614 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: one I've ever heard. And his parents probably thought they 615 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: were getting all new kitchen applying to yeah, exactly exactly. 616 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: His kids thought they were getting a brand new car. 617 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh boy, parents, though, I'm getting rid of this avocado refrigerator. Man, 618 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: all the all they got was dinner at Applebee's. That's 619 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: all they got, yeah, exactly, and the and the split check. 620 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: All right, you've been listening to Bloomberg Businesses Sports. We're 621 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: here each and every week at the same time, plus 622 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: online wherever you get your podcast. Catch those Mondays, Wednesdays 623 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: and Thursdays. 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