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Speaker 3: Welcome back Hour two. You know, I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: One of the secret strengths of the NFL is that

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to play in the NFL until after

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Speaker 1: you've completed that third year of college, and most guys

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Speaker 1: commit to four years of college before playing in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? You come in a man, not

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Speaker 1: a kid. You come in ready to produce. You are

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Speaker 1: physically ready, emotionally ready. Many football players come in married,

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Speaker 1: some have a kid, a kid draw on the way.

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Speaker 1: You know. In baseball, you get drafted, you're not even

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper. You go to the miners, you know, even

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Speaker 1: the all time great prospects. You're not starting the next

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Speaker 1: day for the Yankees and driving in one hundred runs.

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Speaker 1: You go to basketball, you're drafting like eighteen, nineteen twenty

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Speaker 1: year old kids. You're Wemby is in year three now

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Speaker 1: they've injuries a minute restrictions, don't start him off the bench.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron's like one of one that could be

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Speaker 1: productive year one and powerful. But in the NFL, you

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Speaker 1: bring a quarterback in like Bo Nicks with sixty one

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Speaker 1: college starts. He's a grown up. It's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't miss Russell Wilson. The cap hit doesn't really

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Speaker 1: matter as long as you get the coach right. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that the NFL is a league of hope.

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Speaker 1: You can go from awful New England last year to

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Speaker 1: excellent New England this year nine months Commanders did it?

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Speaker 1: Got the quarterback right right? You can't do that, Nuthers.

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Speaker 1: Nobody is The Wizards are not magically going to win

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals next year, even Oklahoma City. It's taken

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Speaker 1: years of smart drafting and growth and development, and now

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Speaker 1: it looks like they could be a dynasty. So I

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Speaker 1: saw this story yesterday and I don't think this is good.

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Speaker 1: The NFL has always been the league of hope. The

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Speaker 1: bottom's been small, but even the bottom teams you feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we are a quarterback away. USC starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: Jaden Mayava sixty four to two thirty, accurate, coachable, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna stay at USC and il money. Dante Moor at

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Speaker 1: Oregon may do the same six four to two thirty.

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Speaker 1: You think you draft him late first, early second. With

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Speaker 1: Arizona Arizona, Cardinal fans wouldn't be all hyped up. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at the top of the draft order,

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Speaker 1: five of eleven teams Miami, Jets, Arizona, Cleveland, Vegas have

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Speaker 1: to draft the quarterback. Absolutely there maybe only one quarterback

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Speaker 1: you're going to do with Tyler Shuck. No idea, because

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Speaker 1: if you draft a college quarterback in that first or

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Speaker 1: second round, he's cheap for four or five years. You

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Speaker 1: can stack the roster. And that doesn't mean you're great,

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Speaker 1: but you're optimistic and you're hopeful. A great example is

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Giants draft Jackson Dart they're two

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Speaker 1: and twelve, but Giant fans are like, we got our

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Speaker 1: guy number one pick, trade down, get six picks. Yet

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Speaker 1: Arizona's got another win. They're three and eleven, but it's

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 3: Hopeless. They actually have another win over the Giants.

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Speaker 1: They're viewed as hopeless, and the strength of the NFL

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Speaker 1: has always been selling optimistically, you're just an inch away.

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Speaker 1: You can't sell that in baseball. Nobody in Pittsburgh thinks

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Speaker 3: You can't do it. In the NBA.

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Speaker 1: No reasonable fan thinks the Wizards are close. But Chicago's

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Speaker 1: a train wreck last year and now could win the

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Speaker 1: The schools like Ohio State, USC, Oregon, maybe in Alabama

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Speaker 1: the big money and keep a guy in. And now

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Speaker 1: you could say, well next year, that means it'll be

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback class next year.

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Speaker 1: We all thought cave Kladnik was going to be an

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Speaker 1: We all thought Arch Manning was one and done, he

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Speaker 1: he's coming back to So I've noticed this in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Start looking at the draft order right now, most of

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Speaker 1: those teams, outside of the team that gets Mendoza from Indiana,

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Speaker 1: what are you selling to your fans? If Dante Moore

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Speaker 1: Jade and Mayava, keep your If Dante Moore is like,

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Speaker 1: I'm standing Oregon, whoa, we got one first round quarterback

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Speaker 1: off a terrible quarterback class last year. So look at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the NFL right now. That one o'clock

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Speaker 1: window is unwatchable. By about week twelve, You're like, you're

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Speaker 1: just praying they put and now they're moving games to Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yikes, the other one o'clock window is worse.

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Speaker 1: So I think the NFL has always been able to

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Speaker 1: sell hope more than any other league. Nil is a

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Speaker 1: bit of a pain in the butt at least short

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Speaker 1: term for the NFL. With that, Julian Edelman is now

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Speaker 1: going to join US Live three Rings, super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mami's in his studio, he's got that podcast,

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Speaker 1: Games with Names, look at him, all right. So I

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Speaker 1: made the argument that the game Buffalo beat New England,

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Speaker 1: it was a bigger game for Buffalo. It mattered more

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Speaker 3: That sticks.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think less of the Patriots losing. I

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Speaker 1: still think they're kind of looking for about four more

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Speaker 3: How do you view it? As a former Patriot, I.

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Speaker 4: Viewed that they're not there yet, still a young team,

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Speaker 4: something that we used to hear all the time. Can't

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Speaker 4: win until you keep from losing. And the second half

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Speaker 4: was an example of that. Look, they start out on fire,

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Speaker 4: go up twenty four to three, have a great game plan,

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Speaker 4: but you got to play your best football at the

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Speaker 4: which they haven't done.

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Speaker 4: They've got this defense where they you kind of anticipate

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Speaker 2: But you can only do that if you're good in

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Speaker 4: And they're seventy five percent giving up touchdowns in the

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Speaker 2: When they get Milton Williams back.

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Speaker 4: You know, the offense kind of ran out of plays

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Speaker 2: Had a great game plan going into the beginning of

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Speaker 4: But once again, you're out, you're left tackle, Campbell, you're out, Wilson,

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Speaker 4: can be a good thing for them. Look, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to win this in this league. You know, they just

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Speaker 4: rattled off a ten game winning streak. That's insanely impressed. Soon, Uh,

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Speaker 4: it's good to kind of maybe recalibrate your brain in

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Speaker 4: you have to play your best football. So when they

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Speaker 4: get their guys back on the offense line, Milt Williams

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Speaker 4: on the defense, they're gonna get better. Splaying not playing

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Speaker 2: Have been used. So I think this was really good

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Speaker 4: But when I my initial reaction, they're not there yet.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: We think because the NFL locker room is so big,

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Speaker 1: offense over there, defense over there, kickers over there, you're

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Speaker 1: separated that if you had a guy that was an

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Speaker 1: ego or a diva, you could hide him. But Seattle

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Speaker 1: JSN was kind of considered, you know, more low key,

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Speaker 3: He crushes.

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Speaker 1: Now he's in a three game stretch where he's pouting, Hey,

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Speaker 1: and deck don't work, and you take me into a

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Speaker 1: the word diva, but one kind of moody star player.

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Speaker 1: Can it really literally disrupt on the plane locker room?

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Speaker 3: Is it that disruptive?

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Speaker 4: It depends on your leadership of your team. I was

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Speaker 4: at a place where that stuff didn't happen if those guys,

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Speaker 2: There very long.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, they look at the best player

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady, who works his tail off, who gets coach tard,

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Speaker 4: who does all the little things before, after, and during practice, Like,

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Speaker 2: You can't fool.

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Speaker 4: A team and have a guy I think he can

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Speaker 4: come in and act a certain way when your best

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Speaker 2: So you know, when you.

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Speaker 4: Have a great group of leaders that everyone believes in,

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Speaker 4: that of won, I don't think those things happen.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. Did I answer your question there

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Speaker 2: was that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I think it's just like if you have

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Speaker 1: I think the foundational part of the best teams in

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Speaker 1: put up a lot of crap. You can overcome a

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Speaker 1: lot if you have those three things in order.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: That is right?

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Speaker 4: You need to have those three things in order and

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Speaker 4: if if you don't, you're just going to run into

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Speaker 4: a bunch of problems and it's going to become a distraction.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know in Dallas they handle.

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Speaker 4: Distractions, those distractions, and so maybe they're they like that,

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Speaker 4: but I think I think.

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Speaker 4: But ultimately those were eye opening moments because everyone balls

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Speaker 2: They don't have a beat on you. There's not enough film.

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Speaker 4: And and you know, the great players that I always

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Speaker 4: going into the playoffs. You make your they would always say,

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Speaker 3: Finally, here's my super Bowl bubble. I do it.

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Speaker 1: I always have about seven teams that I think can

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Speaker 4: You, Nothing here bothers me. Chargers like, it's been super

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Speaker 4: So this is the biggest year I think for parody

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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl bubble, you know, it's it's Houston was

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Speaker 1: first of all, Bullock, they're so long. I said this

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow. Right, Ram Seahawks, that's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 3: That is gonna be a great one.

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Speaker 1: Redemption time for one, Sam Darnold, here's j Mack with

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 9: All right, col let's get started with the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 9: and Jerry Jones. You know we talked about soft tanking earlier,

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Speaker 9: my Jets.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned Miami, Washington.

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Speaker 9: A lot of people are starting to bench your stars, right, Well,

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Speaker 9: Dallas has a one percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: They need to win out and the Eagles need to

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Speaker 8: lose out. Obviously that's not happening.

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Speaker 9: With three games left, Jerry Jones talked about the potential

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Speaker 9: of benching Dak in company for a better draft spot.

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Speaker 5: Win is very very important in the NFL, and win

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Speaker 5: is important to me, and win does a lot of

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Speaker 5: positive things. I don't care when it happens, and we've

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Speaker 5: got we it to that mirror, and we owe it

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Speaker 5: certainly to our fans that we want to walk out

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Speaker 5: there and be competitive. We will not try for a

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Speaker 5: draft position, we won't be looking at anything like that.

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Speaker 5: We'll be out there playing football, and we'll bring them

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Speaker 5: to play.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Dallas is if you look at their

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Speaker 1: remaining schedule, you can't ask Dak to tank, and you

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Speaker 1: also don't want to rest starters, so Dak gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: The truth is Dallas could win all three of these games,

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Speaker 1: or probably could lose two of them. So I think

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Speaker 1: Dallas is going to be fine. Dalla's going to win

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Speaker 1: seven games and probably go you know, seven, nine and one.

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Speaker 3: You know, And so I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think for them, I don't work. They have two first

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Speaker 1: round picks. It doesn't matter if one's a six and

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Speaker 1: ones that they have two first round picks, they're fine.

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Speaker 1: They can those into other picks. You Rams have two

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Speaker 1: first round picks, Cleveland has two first round picks. If

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Speaker 1: you're Miami and you've got one and you need a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Dallas doesn't.

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Speaker 3: The Rams don't.

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Speaker 1: So if you're Miami, that one pick becomes really crucial

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Speaker 1: that you get to six or seventh, not eleventh or twelve.

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Speaker 3: That's different. Dallas is fine.

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Speaker 1: Two first round picks can become extra fourth and fifth

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Speaker 1: round picks.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I was listening closely to Jerry.

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Speaker 9: He sounds like he essentially was doing that interview in

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Speaker 9: the middle of like sitting on his front porch and

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Speaker 9: yelling at kids to get off his lawn. I mean,

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Speaker 9: what is he talking about, Hey, we got to look

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Speaker 9: ourselves in the mirror.

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Speaker 8: We owe it to What are you talking about.

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Speaker 9: You haven't been doing an NFC championship game and I

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Speaker 9: don't know what thirty years.

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Speaker 8: Wake up, Jerry.

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Speaker 9: If you get eliminated, sit your starters, start playing the

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Speaker 9: young guys.

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Speaker 8: See who's going to make the roster next year?

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Speaker 1: Well, and do that like the O line is already young. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want Dak to get hurt. I to me

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Speaker 1: in all so, Dak's healthy and there is some value. Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys draft position doesn't is not.

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Speaker 1: They're not drafting a quarterback. They need an edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: There's six they need to tackle. There's three in the

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Speaker 1: first round. They're gonna get a tackle. They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher. They may get a corner. I'm not

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Speaker 1: worried about Dallas going forward.

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Speaker 3: Draft picks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 9: I know they've had a good run at draft picks

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Speaker 9: in the first round. They've made some really good ones.

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Speaker 9: But you're not winning. I just don't see the point.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to get.

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Speaker 8: Dak hurt for sure.

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Speaker 9: All right, Next story, Colin, It's obviously Thursday night football,

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Speaker 9: the biggest game of the week, Rams traveling north to

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Speaker 9: Seattle for the number one seed in the NFC and

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Speaker 9: winning the division on the line. Obviously, all eyes are

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Speaker 9: on DeVante Adams, who had that hamstring injury. After the game,

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Speaker 9: McVeigh said he was optimistic about DeVante's status.

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Speaker 8: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: It's the hamstring. Like we saw.

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Speaker 10: You know, the two guys that will be dnps that

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Speaker 10: you know we're gonna give them every chance that they've

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Speaker 10: got would be you know, Davonte with the hamstring, and

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Speaker 10: and Fisk you know, came out of the game with

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Speaker 10: a little bit of soreness in his ankle.

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Speaker 2: Will take it all the.

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Speaker 10: Way up the game time and see where they're at.

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Speaker 2: So at this point, you're not ruling Davante out of

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Speaker 2: I'm not ruling anyone out.

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Speaker 1: There's they are. They have an embarrassment of riches, they

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Speaker 1: really do. They're they're they're they're fine. They if you

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Speaker 1: watch them, Houston's defense and the Rams offense, those are

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Speaker 1: about the best units in the league.

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Speaker 9: So uh, I was looking into my uh my good

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Speaker 9: puka source who gave me the puka is going to

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Speaker 9: be a star in the Rams. My person is saying

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Speaker 9: that DeVante is a long shot to play. They did

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Speaker 9: just get too two at well back last week. They

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Speaker 9: activated him, so they've got guys. I don't think they

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Speaker 9: forced Adams to You don't want to re injure the hamstring,

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Speaker 9: then you jeopardize January when it matters more. I think

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Speaker 9: the Rams can win without DeVante Tolin. I will tell

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Speaker 9: you an injury that's not being talked about. Seattle's left

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Speaker 9: tackle Charles Cross, excellent player d NP at practice, got

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Speaker 9: injured last week. That is a significant injury. Nobody's talking

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Speaker 9: about this. Rams pressure got to Darnold in the last meeting.

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Speaker 9: He was flustered, bunch of picks. Do you want me

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Speaker 9: to give you my bet on this game or wait

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Speaker 9: another day?

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Speaker 3: I don't know?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what you I'm on the first half under.

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Speaker 9: We talked yesterday about Seattle's slow starts the last three games,

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Speaker 9: and I look at this Rams defense.

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Speaker 8: Neither coach is gonna want to make a mistake.

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Speaker 9: I don't think we're gonna see a lot of downfield

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Speaker 9: stuff first half under for me in Ram Seattle, I

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Speaker 9: think we see a low scoring chess match, if you will.

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Speaker 8: This is not going to be a shootout on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing with your bookie this year? How

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Speaker 3: are you doing?

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Speaker 9: You never know who's listening, So I don't want to

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Speaker 9: address that. But it's been a very good season. Not

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Speaker 9: as good as college football, but it's been a good season.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on to the third story. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: college football.

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Speaker 2: I don't have.

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Speaker 9: Anything on this one. But this is a good, good rematch.

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Speaker 9: It's Alabama Oklahoma. The lines around pick them or one,

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Speaker 9: depending on what you're looking at.

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Speaker 8: One interesting subplot is Kaylin de Bour.

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Speaker 9: A lot of people are linking him to the Michigan job,

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Speaker 9: and calend Moore obviously kind of sort of shot those

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Speaker 9: down this week. But according to Deboor, all these rumors

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Speaker 9: they have not had an impact on the Alabama locker room.

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Speaker 6: Mark guys, if there's been a meat distraction, I haven't

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Speaker 6: seen it, haven't felt it.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm really proud of the way they've handled

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Speaker 2: whatever noise is out there.

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Speaker 3: And again, we've probably all tea and long have dealt

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Speaker 3: with enough.

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Speaker 2: Noise to where pig what sfest surprised.

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Speaker 3: Me on how they have it ones. Yeah, who do

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Speaker 3: you like in that game?

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Speaker 1: It's last year they played and Oklahoma blew their doors off.

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Speaker 8: Well wait, oh last year?

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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, so they played like a month ago and

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Speaker 9: Oklahoma did win. But if you look at the box

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Speaker 9: score and I watched like the condensed highlights on YouTube,

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Speaker 9: Alabama moved all over the field.

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Speaker 8: They had like two hundred more yards Colin.

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Speaker 9: The problem was interceptions and turnovers and that's what gave

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Speaker 9: Alabama to win. Alabama has no run game, so that's

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Speaker 9: the thing. There's no injury reports really in college football.

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Speaker 9: So Alabama's running back, the kid I think jam Miller's

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Speaker 9: his name. He had an injury and missed the Georgia

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Speaker 9: game and they had negative three yards rushing.

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Speaker 8: Is he coming back? I don't know. There's no injury.

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Speaker 9: Reports, so you're kind of flying blind here. Part of

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Speaker 9: me maybe just watches. I know that's not as fun.

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Speaker 8: I don't. I would lean out.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm a Tye Simpson guy. You know, we

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Speaker 9: got to pick our guys. I like ty Simpson a

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Speaker 9: lot man. He did not look good against Georgia. He

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Speaker 9: gets a chance for redemption. I would lean Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Here have you?

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Speaker 3: I think?

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Speaker 9: So?

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Speaker 3: I really like Caleen de bor as a coach. I

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Speaker 3: just awesome.

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Speaker 9: And nobody to remember, sorry, nobody likes to bet on

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Speaker 9: teams they just saw get their butts kicked. So the

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Speaker 9: public is gravitating toward Oklahoma, who already beat them, and

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Speaker 9: Alabama just looked like crap two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think the best bet in the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff is jam you against Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: To win it all.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they're going to be able to use in every

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Speaker 1: single game. Nobody believes in US. Nobody's talking about US.

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Speaker 1: Young players, young athletes, young human beings are much more

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Speaker 1: emotional than older players. Texas Tech to win it all.

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Speaker 1: I like that because they've got several NFL guys. They

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Speaker 1: went and bottom. The coach is good, No, but they're rested,

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Speaker 1: they're healthy. Texas Tech to win it all. And because

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Speaker 1: it's the one really good team we give no chance

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Speaker 1: to because we've only seen them play BYU a couple

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Speaker 1: of times and BYU was okay.

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Speaker 8: So interesting.

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Speaker 9: So we know Alabama has we know their weaknesses. Oklahoma

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Speaker 9: quarterback offense, they've been up and down. Tell me Ohio

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Speaker 9: State what like? We love the defense. I don't know

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Speaker 9: that I trust the quarterback. We saw him in two

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Speaker 9: UY two colin Texas and Indiana. How'd the offense do

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Speaker 9: in those games?

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Speaker 2: Not great?

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Speaker 8: I mean he's a young kid.

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Speaker 9: And then you look at Indiana and you think, like, okay, Indiana.

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Speaker 8: But Texas Tech does not have an obvious weakness. They're

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Speaker 8: one loss to Arizona State.

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Speaker 9: They didn't have their quarterback, So I don't think you

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Speaker 9: could be honest one with Texas Tech well Red.

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Speaker 3: Raiders plus eight hundred to win it all, that's the bat.

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Speaker 3: That's the eight hundred.

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Speaker 8: Ooh okay, now you're speaking my language, my friend.

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Speaker 3: All right, jmck with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd line.

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Speaker 1: Man. When you have young people there tend to be

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Speaker 1: you know, more emotional to be able to use that

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Speaker 1: in the NFL playoffs, nobody believes in us. That kind

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Speaker 1: of raw raw stuff maybe works for a series, but

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Speaker 1: if you've got a bunch of young kids, nineteen twenty

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Speaker 1: year old kids, twenty one year old kids, and you're like, folks,

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Speaker 1: literally nobody is picking us in any of these games.

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Speaker 1: That's that's jet fuel. And I only watched Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: play twice. I watched them play BYU both times. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know BYU could not move the ball in them

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Speaker 1: either time. But that's because Texas Tech Defense has got

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Speaker 1: dudes like like like Indiana, you can go buy really

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Speaker 1: good players, uh and get you can transform. That's why

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Speaker 1: I love about the nil. We never talk Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: or Indiana in December. We never so all these people,

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Speaker 1: these fearmongers. Oh, and I Yel is gonna run Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech now is a top ten program because of that billionaire,

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Speaker 1: and Indiana is a top five team, maybe a top

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Speaker 1: two team in the country. So you know, everybody freaked out. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna make the rich Richard. The opposite has happened.

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Speaker 1: We've now had two programs emerge as powers because of

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Speaker 1: excellent anile collectives or programs.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about an hour ago about

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Speaker 1: how the Warriors owner Joe lacob a email, a private

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Speaker 1: email leaked.

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Speaker 3: A fan emailed them said.

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Speaker 1: I'm really frustrated with this team, and Joe lacub came

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Speaker 1: out and said, he you think you're frustrated, And it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a subtle shot at Steve Kerr, but it

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Speaker 1: was sort of saying, it's really complicated, and so it's

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Speaker 1: interesting and it's instructive. I think the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: right now have to some degree a Golden State Warrior

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Speaker 1: issue is that I said, the Warriors have become a

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Speaker 1: conditional team, a circumstantial team. They'll acquire you if you

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Speaker 1: can play with Steph. Well, young guys can't. Kansas City?

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Speaker 1: Are they willing to acknowledge this version of the dynasty

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Speaker 1: is over? We need to rebuild. So the Warriors held

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Speaker 1: on to Clay way too long. They should have blown

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Speaker 1: it up three years ago. Good are you four? Right

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Speaker 1: after that healthy win?

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Speaker 3: Blow it up? They didn't do it. And I said

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Speaker 3: this a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Who is the Kansas City Chiefs fourth best player? We

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Speaker 1: put this up now you know, Mahomes is won, Creed Humphrey,

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, Tray Smith, the offensive lineman who had kind

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Speaker 1: of a down year, George carloftis.

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Speaker 3: He is a big cap hit next year.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little overpaid, but I understand why

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Speaker 1: they got him. Compare that to an elite roster. The

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Speaker 1: Rams look at the Rams. Okay, if you look at

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Speaker 1: who the Rams top ten players are, I don't have

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Speaker 1: Brayden Frisk on that list. Fisk, excuse me. I have

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Speaker 1: Byron Young ninth. He's got eleven sacks. I don't have

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. PoTA Ford being the eighth

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Speaker 1: best player on any team has had a great year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not out in Blake Koram, who was popped Fisk,

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Speaker 1: who is very good, Young is ninth. Nate Lanman at

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Speaker 1: ten has been a revelation. Like nobody knew who he

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Speaker 1: was in Atlanta. He has been a revelation. That's an

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Speaker 1: elite roster. I don't know who the fourth best player

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Speaker 1: is on Kenzie Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I'm not blaming anybody.

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Speaker 1: Rashid Rice is certainly talented, but really immature. Xavier Worthy

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Speaker 1: gadget guy offensive tackles. I think the left tackle from

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Speaker 1: Ohio State could be special. This is not a knock

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Speaker 1: on anybody, but if you start looking at Philadelphia's roster

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Speaker 1: and you start looking at the Lions roster and the

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Speaker 1: Rams roster, you're leaving people out of your top ten

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Speaker 1: who would start for every team in the league, every

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Speaker 1: single team. So I think Kansas City has to accept,

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Speaker 1: blow up up a little bit and that, and then

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Speaker 1: and listen, the one thing I'll say is when they

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Speaker 1: moved off Tyreek Hill, they actually did fine. But the

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Speaker 1: hardest position in Pro football to draft, and it's ironic

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Speaker 1: because it has the most talent is wide receiver. It

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Speaker 1: busts more than any first round UH position. Offensive line

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Speaker 1: bust the least. Receivers bust the most. Why personality. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot of old linemen have big personalities.

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Speaker 3: Big egos.

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Speaker 1: Receivers do, And so you get a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: in then they're just not team guys. They're they're me

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Speaker 1: guy over we guy. And so Kansas City's had a

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Speaker 1: draft because Tyreek Hill's not around, They've had to take

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Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital and draft wide receivers. And

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Speaker 1: I think some of hit sky Moore didn't. Rashi rice

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Speaker 1: Is don't trust him, but he's good. So it's I

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Speaker 1: just think Kansas City's where the Warriors were, and the

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Speaker 1: Warriors after that Celtics championship, should have just said, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is it, like we gotta make we gotta blow

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Speaker 1: it up. Remember that one against the Celtics, they were

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Speaker 1: in trouble. They go to Boston and Tatum and Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Smart still young, kind of shocked everybody. They go

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Speaker 1: to Boston, they beat the Celtics on the East Coast

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Speaker 1: and you're like.

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Speaker 3: Damn, they're gonna win another.

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Speaker 2: That day.

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Speaker 1: Flying after that championship, Joe Lacob, Steve Kerr at the

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Speaker 1: time they had a different GM. I think you have

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Speaker 1: to start over. But the Warriors have become conditional circumstantial. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're not moving off staff and we're not moving off Draymond. Well,

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Speaker 1: then you're just an old team that can't score in

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Speaker 1: the fast break. And in the West, forget it. You're

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Speaker 1: not viable. In the East, you could maybe play your

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Speaker 1: way with Kurse coaching and the experience, you could play

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Speaker 1: your way into a conference championship. Maybe probably wouldn't beat

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. But I mean, Bob Meyer, great guy the GM.

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Speaker 1: Then it's Mike Dunleavy junior now. But Mike Bob Meyer

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Speaker 1: knew it was over. He was a smart one.

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Speaker 3: He left.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want to be part of a

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Speaker 1: Steph Draymond Clay explosion.

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm out. He got out of the building.

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Speaker 1: And Steve Kerr in regards to that email, a private

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Speaker 1: email from Joe lacub Well, we're all frustrated.

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Speaker 2: You know, Joe is frustrated.

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Speaker 5: I'm frustrated, Steph Andrea, everybody's frustrated.

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Speaker 2: And this is, you know, kind of how the league works.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I hate when people you.

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Speaker 7: Know, are going to post private emails like I mean,

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Speaker 7: imagine if everyone's emails were just publicly posted out.

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Speaker 2: How tough that would be to live our lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're a five hundred team, thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 1: or fourteen and thirteen fast break points, kaminga three straight

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Speaker 1: do not plays. I think that's where Kansas City's at.

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Speaker 1: I keep asking people retool or rebuild. And this is

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Speaker 1: not a criticize them, criticism of I think they have

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Speaker 1: a great GM is you start looking at the Rams roster,

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Speaker 1: the Lions roster, the Eagles roster, you know you may

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Speaker 1: have to part. I would never part with a great center.

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Speaker 1: I think those are the most underrated players in the league.

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Speaker 1: You may have to move Trent McDuffie, who I think

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Speaker 1: is excellent, But can you get trade McDuffie in a

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Speaker 1: couple of seconds. I mean, he is by the way

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Speaker 1: that I think the Rams would take that call. He

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Speaker 1: played at Washington West Coast kid Trent McDuffie's excellent. But

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Speaker 1: they've moved off corners before, and it didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: it didn't. It wasn't that punitive. But I guess you

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Speaker 1: and I agree on this is that they're not just

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Speaker 1: mahomes getting healthy away. They have averaged. They're like sixteenth

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Speaker 1: in the league the last three years with Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: in scoring. Okay, so you have the smartest play designer

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Speaker 1: of my life outside of Bill Walsh maybe, and you're

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Speaker 1: middle of the pack in a league where half the

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Speaker 1: teams have horrible quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: There's a saying hard choices, easy life, easy choices, hard life.

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Speaker 8: It applies to like everything.

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Speaker 9: If the Chiefs do like what you said and do

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Speaker 9: with the Warriors did well, we can't part with Clay

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Speaker 9: he's our guy. We gotta pay Draymond. We get they're

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Speaker 9: gonna have a really difficult stretch ahead. And I think

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Speaker 9: you're onto something with McDuffie. They did move off Tarvarius Ward,

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Speaker 9: who wanted money.

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Speaker 8: They're fine. They moved off Snead he busted in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Think about they're fine.

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Speaker 9: I think McDuffie's gone I think Nick Bolton is the

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Speaker 9: name you gotta watch. Very good linebacker, but big cap

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Speaker 9: hit Colin Listen. Tough choices, man, you gotta make them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: And it also with Harbor and Peyton and the division.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the reason, the reason, if you look at

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Speaker 1: dying franchisers surviving a little longer, like New England, it

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Speaker 1: was because the Jets and the Dolphins and the Bills

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Speaker 1: were a mess when Josh Allen entered the division.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everything changes