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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: As we are coming to you live from the NFL

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Speaker 2: Combine in Indianapolis. Chris Brown, Matti lab with you, and

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Speaker 2: we should mention at this point in time that Buffalo

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Speaker 2: we got a chock full of nuts show here today.

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Speaker 2: Two NFL gms, one NFL head coach, and the lead

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Speaker 2: draft analyst for NFL Network all on this show here today.

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Speaker 1: We are react.

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Speaker 3: It is packed and stacked.

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Speaker 4: We heard from Sean McDermott yesterday, so we will air

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Speaker 4: that interview here shortly.

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Speaker 3: And then Brandon Bean, who he.

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Speaker 4: Just spoke to, is currently speaking to media members right

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Speaker 4: now on one of the podiums kind of to our

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Speaker 4: right where all the prospects will begin talking tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Today is all about the head coaches and gms.

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Speaker 4: They're all speaking to media members today, So Brandon Bean

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Speaker 4: is going right now, and then we'll also hear from

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Speaker 4: Raiders GM, Tom to LESCo and Daniel Jeremiah, who's the

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Speaker 4: lead NFL Draft analyst over at NFL Network. He does

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Speaker 4: great work and it was really great to talk to

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Speaker 4: him about the wide receiver class the defensive line class

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we hit up Brandon about that too, So

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Speaker 2: you're going to want to stay tuned for all of

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Speaker 2: those interviews is coming your way. We will talk to

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Speaker 2: Raiders GM Tom Telesco live. For those that don't remember,

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Speaker 2: he is the former Chargers GM. He stays in the

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Speaker 2: AFC West and latches on with the Raiders where he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be the general manager there, working with Antonio Pierce.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to him about how things are progressing there.

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Speaker 2: They just announced their full coaching staff earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: along with their front office which is finally getting set,

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Speaker 2: so we'll talk to him about doing some of those

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Speaker 2: building blocks. And for those that don't know either, Tom

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Speaker 2: Telesco a Hamburg, New York native, so always look forward

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Speaker 2: to catching up with Tom this time of the year

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Speaker 2: here at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. There was one

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Speaker 2: bit of news earlier today from one of the gms,

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Speaker 2: Kansas City GM Brett Veach, basically said they anticipate using

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Speaker 2: the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Tag. Speculation is that's going to be used.

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Speaker 2: On Lagerious Snead, their number one corner, because to use

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Speaker 2: it on Chris Jones would be cost prohibitive because I

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Speaker 2: think the number would be something like over twenty two

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Speaker 2: million dollars and that's not something they want to entertain

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Speaker 2: speculation is that tag's gonna go on Snead so they

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Speaker 2: don't lose him on what was the number two defense

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Speaker 2: in football.

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Speaker 4: Last year, and you were wondering how those two would

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Speaker 4: work out, with tagging one or with extending another. And

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Speaker 4: we heard a lot about Chris Jones and why he

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Speaker 4: deserves to remain on a roster like this, but you

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Speaker 4: can't talk about Chris Jones without talking about Lugerious Snead

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Speaker 4: and what he has meant to this defense, his versatility,

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Speaker 4: how they've used him in the past season. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he was a big, big, big reason why that defense

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Speaker 2: And as you'll hear from GM Brandon being a little

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Speaker 2: the nitty gritty. I mean, it's decision time because we're

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Speaker 2: two weeks away from having to be cap compliant and

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Speaker 2: ready for the new league year with your plans about

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Speaker 2: what you're spending in free agency, what you're probably targeting

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Speaker 2: to cost. So there's a lot of moving parts here

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Speaker 2: over the next two weeks, not just for the build,

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Speaker 2: but for every other team in the league for that matter.

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Speaker 2: So another example is Sean Payton was addressing the media earlier.

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Speaker 2: The big question there is what's going to become of

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Speaker 2: In the quarterback's a pretty big decision in that equation.

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Speaker 2: So okay, thanks Sean, Like I think we all could

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Speaker 2: Thanks you for filling us in so kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: stating the obvious there. But some of the other comments

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of people that feel that

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton's ready to turn the page and he wants

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Speaker 2: to do that without Russell Wilson attached at the hip

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Speaker 1: I mean he was you know, he had a.

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Speaker 2: Decent season last year, did not turn the ball over.

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Speaker 2: They they had a better second half of the season

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Speaker 2: But it just doesn't seem like there's a firm connection

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if they move on.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they gave so much up for him, it's crazy

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Speaker 2: But previous regime. Yeah, So for Sean Payton, it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not beholden to this guy. I didn't pick him,

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Speaker 2: I didn't trade for him. So yeah, I think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna probably move on. It's crazy, like five as little

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Speaker 2: moving on from that player because of the cost prohibitive

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Speaker 2: nature of the cap. Now ever, since that Carson Wentz trade,

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Speaker 2: know what, I can take thirty million do so big deal.

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Speaker 1: And so now.

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Speaker 2: Nobody even thinks twice it's crazy, but it happens, and

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Speaker 2: we see it. Since that Carson Wentz deal, We've seen

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Speaker 2: I feel like Russell Wilson could be that guy this year.

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Speaker 4: And Sean Payton wants to win and he wants to

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Speaker 4: and if that means moving on from Russell Wilson, if

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Speaker 4: gonna do that. Just explaining what you said teams have

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Speaker 3: Move on from a.

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Speaker 4: Big name player, take a big cap hit to get

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, as we know, addressed the media over here yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He's in NFL Competition Committee meeting. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: he's there again today. Six hours yesterday, I think another

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Speaker 2: six hours today. He had a six hour meeting on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get all the competition committee exposure he wants

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Speaker 2: and then some and we talked about that with him

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Speaker 2: But he couldn't say enough nice things about Gabe Davis yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and that's all well and good, but you wonder the

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Speaker 2: path they choose to take here, because you have to

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Speaker 2: believe Gabe, with this being his second contract, wants to

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Speaker 2: and I would tend to think that Gabe's going to

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Speaker 2: try to see how much he can get on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he deserves to do that.

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Speaker 4: I think several free agents who might come back to

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Speaker 4: the Bills deserve to do that. I mean, why wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Before maybe working out a deal with the Bills.

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Speaker 4: We know that the Bills are going to have to

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Speaker 3: Know there's other teams out there who have.

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Speaker 4: A boatload of money to spend on players like wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: But I wonder what Gabe Davis also wants out of

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Speaker 4: his not really his next contract, but his next chapter

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Speaker 3: What do you want?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to go back to a team where

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Speaker 4: you did have some production with not as consistent as

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Speaker 4: we all wanted it to be and probably as Gabe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll hear more about that, not only from

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Speaker 2: as well as Daikwon Jones and the free agent market

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Speaker 2: as a whole. But we do want to turn to

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Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermott and remind you our Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: But let's go to our interview with head coach Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 2: All right, coach, thanks for stopping in and giving us

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Speaker 2: some time. You know, congrats on being named to the

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Speaker 2: Competition Committee. We already heard you're a mover and a

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Speaker 2: shaker and changing all kinds of rules, coming up with

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Speaker 2: seventeen different proposals.

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Speaker 1: I heard you had a long list, so that's good

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Speaker 2: Congrats on that, But no, in all seriousness, what was

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Speaker 2: your reaction when you were asked to serve? We didn't

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Speaker 2: even know how that works. Does Commissioner Goodell call you

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Speaker 2: and offer you the spot like, walk us through how

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it's as formal as what you

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Speaker 6: Fame that way. It wasn't quite that to that extent, No,

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Speaker 6: But it was a phone call from from Troy Vincent

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Speaker 6: did we do wrong?

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Speaker 6: Like, you know, you're getting called to the principal's office

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Speaker 6: and so and so. The next morning, then we connected

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Speaker 6: Troy did that that they would like me to accept

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Speaker 6: their offer to join the committee. And I didn't hesitate really.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was, you know, a little bit of

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Speaker 7: You, man, YEA, truly an honor, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's switch gears to more Bills Central here.

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Speaker 7: And then there's some other things as well that went

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Speaker 4: Well, we saw sample size from Joe Brady this past season,

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Speaker 6: To slow it down, we've added a staff member as

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Speaker 6: That's that's an area I would say that Josh continues

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Speaker 6: You're seeing a record number of backup quarterbacks play this season.

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Speaker 4: You decided to promote Bobby Babbage to the defensive coordinator position.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I really feel felt good about our

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Speaker 4: Now that it's the off season, you've had some time

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Speaker 6: US a division, and I walked down the sideline to

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Speaker 6: address the defense to just say, hey, there's a big

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Speaker 6: series right here. And I didn't have to because I

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Speaker 6: didn't have to do that because I'd have to fall

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Speaker 6: through because.

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Speaker 7: TB was already down there doing that.

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Speaker 6: And to watch the look of his teammates and the

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Speaker 6: look on their eyes was like, hey, we're with you,

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Speaker 6: we got you. And you can just tell that they

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Speaker 6: respect him and respect what he's all about. And I

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Speaker 6: think that says a lot about a young player in particular.

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Speaker 6: And so he's the one that probably jumps jumps to

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Speaker 6: mind right away.

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Speaker 2: A lot of crooked numbers and a lot of defensive

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Speaker 2: categories for him. Last one from me, we talked about

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Speaker 2: the youth movement with your coaching staff. Brandon kind of

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Speaker 2: indicated at the season rap of press conference that with

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Speaker 2: where this team is and it's roster build and cap

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Speaker 2: situation as well.

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Speaker 1: And we saw Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Kind of take a page out of this book a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago where they had a for lack

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Speaker 2: of a better term, youth movement of sorts by investing

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Speaker 2: heavily in the draft and their roster got younger and

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Speaker 2: they moved some more veterans off the roster that they

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Speaker 2: didn't want to re sign for giant money. Do you

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Speaker 2: anticipate that you may have to go in that direction,

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Speaker 2: maybe more than you have in recent years? And then

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Speaker 2: how does that change how you as a coaching staff

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Speaker 2: have to line things up and prepare for the season

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Speaker 2: if in fact you do have a younger ross.

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Speaker 7: Right, I'll start with the coaching piece first, Chris.

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Speaker 6: It's regardless if you're coaching veteran players or younger players.

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Speaker 6: You're teaching, right, that's what you're doing. You've got to

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Speaker 6: convey a message, get a message across to get the

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Speaker 6: players to understand the technique this game, what the why

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Speaker 6: behind it?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 6: And then moving beyond that, you know the salary cap

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Speaker 6: is what it is. Right, We've we've got a veteran

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Speaker 6: quarterback on a on a veteran deal. And and so

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Speaker 6: that narrows what's what's left a little bit. And and

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Speaker 6: Josh is we know how how magnificent he's been for us.

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Speaker 7: And and so.

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Speaker 6: What what Kansas City did, to your point is they

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Speaker 6: added some young youth around some of their pillars, you know,

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Speaker 6: Chris Jones on the defensive side in particular. And so

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Speaker 6: we'll see what how this all plays out, right, And

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Speaker 6: and so you know, we've got to find a wait

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Speaker 6: to get ourselves to where we're ready to play games

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Speaker 6: and play at a high level. That's what we've done

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Speaker 6: and that's what we expect going forward.

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Speaker 1: Coach, thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: As always, we always appreciate you stopping by with us

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Speaker 2: here at the combine. Good luck in those competition committee meetings.

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Speaker 2: Don't be a church mouse, all right, can get your two.

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Speaker 7: Cents in there, Okay, I'll do my best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do my best.

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Speaker 2: I kind of see you sitting there and doing a

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Speaker 2: lot of listening, knowing now you are all right. That's

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Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott joining us here at the NFL Combine

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. We'll take a break and be back with

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Speaker 2: more here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Race.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Coming live from the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine here in Indianapolis. Chris Brown Matti lab with

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Speaker 2: you and I hope you enjoyed that interview with.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 2: Clearly a guy that understands the importance of the NFL's

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Speaker 2: Competition Committee, the responsibility he has. You heard the comedy

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Speaker 2: made about how he got a text from Bill Pollian,

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Speaker 2: the former Bills GM and Carolina Panthers in Indianapolis colch GM,

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Speaker 2: who told him, having been a member of the competition

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Speaker 2: committee before, be a guardian for the game, you have

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Speaker 2: to think bigger. You can't just think about the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: You have to think about the league and its future

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Speaker 2: and what the game looks like going forward.

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Speaker 1: Interesting perspective, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Such an honor for a coach like him, who at

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Speaker 4: this point is probably one of the most tenured coaches

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Speaker 4: yeah around the NFL right now, who's still very young.

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Speaker 4: And it was cool also, I think to hear from

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Speaker 4: Sean when he was talking about the competition Committee as

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Speaker 4: it relates to him becoming a better head coach and

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Speaker 4: how it can improve the job that he does day

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Speaker 4: to day in Buffalo. And so hearing more about what

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Speaker 4: he thinks of being on the Competition Committee.

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Speaker 3: The interesting parts about it.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was really cool to listen to him

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Speaker 4: talk about their meetings that they had and also what

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Speaker 4: he thinks he's going to get out of it. Because

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Speaker 4: you hear Competition Committee, it's like, Okay, you're gonna sit

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Speaker 4: in a room and talk about these rules, talk about rosters,

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Speaker 4: talk about these things. I mean, is that gonna be

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Speaker 4: How long are those meetings? Could it get quite boring?

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Speaker 4: But it seems like it's it's a great thing to

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Speaker 4: be a part of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And just hearing him talk about his coordinators, you know,

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady, Bobby Babbage. I think the Brady one is

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Speaker 2: more interesting because it's it's new ground, and he's going

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Speaker 2: to give Joe the opportunity, as he said, to put

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Speaker 2: his thumb print on the offense. So what you have

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Speaker 2: is a guy that really is gonna have some free

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Speaker 2: license to have the air. He's gonna have some free

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Speaker 2: license here to kind of really put his stamp on

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Speaker 2: the offense. But it was interesting that Sean made sure

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Speaker 2: that he said, while he'll have license to put his

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Speaker 2: stamp on the offense, he is also going to make

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Speaker 2: sure that they're still doing right by Josh and what's

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Speaker 2: best for him in the scope.

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Speaker 1: Of that offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, changing offensive coordinators, especially within Josh's first several seasons

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Speaker 4: in the NFL first six seasons, he's already had a

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Speaker 4: lot of success, and so you don't want to completely retool,

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Speaker 4: completely reinvent something that's already good. And so it'll be

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Speaker 4: fun to see what Joe Brady does taking what they've

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Speaker 4: already done, and when he's already been a part of

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Speaker 4: this offensive staff, but being able to put his stamp

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Speaker 4: on it. Another comment that I really loved from Sean McDermot.

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Speaker 4: He was asked about Joe Brady and Bobby Babbage going

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Speaker 4: up against each other in training camp, just knowing the

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Speaker 4: personality of those two, and Sean mcdermam was like, it'll

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Speaker 4: be interesting because these are two fiery guys, and we

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Speaker 4: love to have fiery coaches on our staff.

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Speaker 2: Well because that just raises the level of the play

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Speaker 2: on the field, because if your coach is getting amped

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Speaker 2: up like you're just naturally gonna get amped up trying

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Speaker 2: to execute what he's calling.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be very interesting going forward. And then the comment

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Speaker 2: that he made about Terrell Bernard. You know, he had

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Speaker 2: more than one guy to pick from in terms of

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Speaker 2: someone who really impressed him, even on the tape after

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Speaker 2: watching it live all season.

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Speaker 1: And for Terrell Bernard and the.

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Speaker 2: Place where he started to the place where he finished

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Speaker 2: in year one as a starter, and not just year

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Speaker 2: one in an important position, but running an entire defense

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Speaker 2: where just about everybody on that unit was older than him.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're talking to a bunch of grown men

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Speaker 2: as a twenty three year old.

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Speaker 1: That's not easy, and he made it look easy.

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Speaker 2: That's the most impressive him talk Sean talking about how

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Speaker 2: that Miami game, he goes over to talk to his

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Speaker 2: defense and TV's like, we got it, and all the

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Speaker 2: guys around are looking at him like he's got it,

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Speaker 2: so we got it, so we're good.

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Speaker 4: I think he is the perfect player for a head

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Speaker 4: coach like Sean McDermott. I think everything that Sean McDermot

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Speaker 4: is Terrell Bernard is that in a player format. And

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Speaker 4: we spoke to him at the end of the season

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Speaker 4: during locker cleanout day and having kind of reflect on

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Speaker 4: his season, and he spoke about the confidence that he

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Speaker 4: was able to gain this season and just the leadership

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Speaker 4: that it takes to lead an older group of players

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Speaker 4: on defense, being able to find a voice in a

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Speaker 4: room of players like Von Miller and de Kwon Jones

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Speaker 4: and some other big names and older guys who are

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Speaker 4: Pro bowlers, who are all pros, Micah Hyde.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Poyer.

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Speaker 1: To find that.

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Speaker 3: Voice, you got to be on your stuff.

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Speaker 4: I am so proud of what he did this past season,

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Speaker 4: being able to see the transformation he made from year

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Speaker 4: one tier two.

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Speaker 3: Talking to him in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: In year one, he seemed like a very young player

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Speaker 4: who is trying to find his way in the NFL

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Speaker 4: figure out where he fit in this defense, and then

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Speaker 4: in year two a completely different player with a lot

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Speaker 4: more maturity about him. I'm really looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 4: what he rings to the table in year three. And

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Speaker 4: it really says a lot about Bobby Babbage as a

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Speaker 4: linebackers coach. He was the safeties coach when Micah Hyde

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Speaker 4: and Jordan Poyer were in their second year. I believe

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Speaker 4: he moved he came on as safety's coach. He started

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Speaker 4: as an assistant defensive coach, then moved over to the

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Speaker 4: safeties coach for five years with Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde,

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Speaker 4: and then had a year with the linebackers Terrell Bernard,

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Speaker 4: Tyrel Dodson, Matt Milano.

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Speaker 3: I know Matt Milano left.

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Speaker 4: Earlier in the season, but to see how he kind

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Speaker 4: of transformed that position group says a lot about what

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Speaker 4: he has done as a position coach and why he

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Speaker 4: deserves a defensive coordinator role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sean liked the fact that he had already

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Speaker 2: coached at two different levels of this defense in this scheme,

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Speaker 2: so now that he's overseeing the whole thing, he already

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Speaker 2: knows two thirds of it backwards and forwards. I mean,

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Speaker 2: d line is the only thing he hasn't coached from

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Speaker 2: a position perspective, so he really expects him to hit

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Speaker 2: the ground running.

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Speaker 1: And one last thing about Joe Brady.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were talking to some scouts on the

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Speaker 2: Bill scouting staff last night and they were saying how

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Speaker 2: they like working with Joe because Joe doesn't demand anything

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Speaker 2: from them in terms of a player. He just says, hey,

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Speaker 2: whoever you get me, just let me know what they

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Speaker 2: do well and will make it work. That is music

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Speaker 2: to the ears of a scout because now they don't

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Speaker 2: feel like I have to find a square peg for

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Speaker 2: a square hole. They just need He's just telling just

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Speaker 2: get me good football players that can do some things,

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Speaker 2: and I'll make it work in the scope.

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Speaker 1: Of the offense.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the signs of a really good

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Speaker 4: coach when you have a coach who says, Hey, give

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Speaker 4: me somebody who's good at XYZ, whatever they're good at,

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Speaker 4: I'll take them and I'll fit them into the offense

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Speaker 4: that we have, or I'll find a role, or I'll

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Speaker 4: convert the offense to be able to lift him up

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Speaker 4: high and have him be at playing at his highest

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Speaker 4: level when he's on the field for us.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You hear more and more now that these coaches in

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Speaker 4: the NFL are players coaches in that they're willing to

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Speaker 4: not necessarily have their.

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Speaker 3: Own system and you have to fit in it.

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Speaker 4: You hear more and more that guys are willing to

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Speaker 4: work around the players that they have on their roster.

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Speaker 4: And I think those coaches are the coaches who get

667
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: the most out of these players and the coaches who

668
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: frankly get to the playoffs because you're you're coaching around

669
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: what players have to offer. You're getting the best out

670
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: of these guys because you're fitting. You're fitting an offense.

671
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: You're retooling an offense. You're creating an offense that is

672
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: for the people on your roster. You're not saying, hey,

673
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: this is the offense that I've ran for the last

674
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: five years because X y Z's no, what do we

675
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: have in the locker room right now and let me

676
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: figure out how it works.

677
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's why the coordinators that last the longest in

678
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: this league are the ones that are the most malleable

679
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: and adaptable with their scheme to the players that they get,

680
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: because careers don't last long enough from a playing perspective

681
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: to rely on player A, B, and C for ten twelve.

682
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: Years in a row.

683
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: You know, we just will be talking to Brandon being

684
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: a little bit later about how rare it is to

685
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: have a safety tandem play for you for six straight seasons,

686
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: seven straight seasons, which mikeah Hyde and Jordan Poyer did.

687
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: So.

688
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: If you're a coordinator and you're not adaptable, you're not

689
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: gonna last long in this league. You've got to adapt

690
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: to the talent that you have at your disposal and

691
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: take advantage of that, either through mismatches, through scheming guys

692
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: open on offense, whatever the case might be. And it

693
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: sounds at least it sounds as though Joe Brady has

694
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: that in spades in terms of his skill set.

695
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Speaker 1: So that's what's encouraging looking forward in terms of the offense.

696
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree.

697
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: It's going to be exciting to see what we have

698
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: out of those two coordinators. And heard a lot from

699
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean this afternoon, and so we're

700
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: excited to bring you guys that Brandon Bean into you,

701
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: But Brandon Bean told us a lot of work cut

702
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: out for them knowing what they have to do in

703
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks.

704
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: I actually crunch the numbers and the Bills are tied

705
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: for the fourth most unrestricted free agents in the league.

706
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: And as you know, they have the third least caps,

707
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: they're the third highest over the cap.

708
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: In the league.

709
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: So you've got the most creative accounting to do and

710
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: among the most roster rebuilding to do. Just in terms

711
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: of twenty two free agents on your roster. I think

712
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: there's only three other teams with more unrestricted free agents

713
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: than Buffalo. There's another team tied with them with twenty two,

714
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: so that just kind.

715
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Of paints the picture.

716
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: There's more work that they have to do in my

717
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: estimation this offseason between getting cap compliant and then filling

718
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: twenty two projected holes. Now, will they re sign some

719
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: of their guys? I think it's safe to assume that

720
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: they will. What's that number though?

721
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: Is it three? Is it five? Is it two?

722
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: Because if it's less than five, you're still talking about

723
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: seventeen other spots you have to fill. Okay, maybe you

724
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: get eight to ten in the draft, So let's just

725
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: say you get eight in the draft and five in

726
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: free agency. You still got seven or eight spots on

727
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: your roster that you have to fill that just to

728
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: get back to where you were last year.

729
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

730
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: So, and it's a ninety player off season roster, and

731
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: I know only the top fifty one salaries count towards

732
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: your cap this time of year, but still it's I

733
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: think it's a I think it's a more daunting task

734
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: this offseason for the personnel department and Brandon being than

735
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: it has been in recent years. I'm not saying it's insurmountable.

736
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: The list is longer, I guess is the best way

737
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: to describe that. The list is longer in terms of

738
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: the to do list. That's the challenge.

739
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they've they've proven they're up for

740
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: the challenge. And I don't know.

741
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: I think about, Okay, what type of GM would you

742
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: want to have for somebody to take on this much work.

743
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 4: I like that we have a GM who's been in

744
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: this position for seven years now going on year eight,

745
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: who's had to do a lot of roster construction, and

746
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: I think who is ready to do something like this,

747
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: who is ready to become cap compliant by having to do.

748
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: Quite a few things.

749
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: And then figure out, okay, twenty two free agents, how

750
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: do these guys either fit in Buffalo or where do

751
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: we need to go find people who can fit on

752
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: this roster with what we need with what to make

753
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: us a Super Bowl contending team.

754
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm really curious.

755
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: And we know that if the Bills had their druthers,

756
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: they'd like a player like day Kwon Jones back in

757
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: the fold. But if that doesn't happen, what's the pivot point,

758
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: like we're gonna hear from Brandon in the second hour

759
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: the show. But people, you know over the past few years,

760
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: there are players that you know, Bills fans want back

761
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: and for some reason they walk out the door and

762
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: it's like, well, the Bills were interested and they had

763
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: a value on that player to come back, but for

764
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: whatever reason, they didn't.

765
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: And it's not always on the Bills.

766
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's on the player, like they wanted to go

767
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: see if they could get more money in free agency.

768
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Maybe there was something with their position coach that didn't

769
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: sing to them and they wanted to seek a different

770
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: opportunity elsewhere. So there's such there's a myriad of reasons,

771
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: and Brandon gets into that in the second hour. We're

772
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: gonna take a break here because when we come back,

773
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: we will be talking with Raiders general manager Tom to LESCo.

774
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: He just finished up at the podium on the other

775
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: side of the room here at the NFL Combine in

776
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: Indy and had some interesting comments. He was naturally asked

777
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: about Davonte Adams said, DeVante Adams is going nowhere. He's

778
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: a Raider, So we kind of put that one to

779
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: bed pretty quickly. He's under contract, but people were wondering

780
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: if he might be traded or something. Sounds like Tom

781
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: wants to keep as many good players as he can,

782
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: so we'll talk to him about that and other subjects

783
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by

784
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: Coalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

785
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Maddi glab with you

786
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: live from the NFL Combine in Indy and joining us

787
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: now is New Raiders GM, Tom to LESCo also Hamburg,

788
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: New York's own so we do this almost annually. Now, Tom,

789
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: good to have you back. The wardrobe has changed a

790
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: little bit. It's now silver black. Uh so congrats on that.

791
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: And and the hiring, I guess, at least from the

792
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: outside looking in, was a little bit in reverse. Usually

793
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: you see the GM in place first and then the

794
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: head coach. Obviously they had an interim situation, so it

795
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: kind of changed things up a bit. So first question

796
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 2: to you, how different was that process for you knowing

797
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: you had to kind of see how you meshed with Antonio.

798
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, certainly a different process. But it's funny like

799
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 10: he was the interim head coach, but in my mind,

800
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 10: like he was the head coach, like the way the

801
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 10: way he finished the year and what they did, like

802
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 10: like he's the head coach.

803
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 8: You know it.

804
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 10: Sometimes maybe these interviews are overrated, like he showed what

805
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 10: he could do on the field, right, So you know

806
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 10: when I went in for this job, like for the interview,

807
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 10: like to me, like he's the he's the head guy.

808
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 10: So but yeah, you have to try and kind of

809
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 10: figure out do you mesh? But it was a fun process.

810
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 10: I guess I didn't really see it coming. There's just

811
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 10: there's a lot of GMS in this league that you

812
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 10: know your GM for a number of years and then

813
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 10: you get let go and then that's kind of it.

814
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 10: Not a lot of gms get rehired, So I wasn't

815
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 10: expecting anything. Kind of came up out of the blue

816
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 10: and went there and you know, talk with them a

817
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 10: couple of times, and I guess they fell as the

818
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 10: right fit. I thought it was a great fit when

819
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 10: I was there.

820
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 4: So when it worked out, well, you guys just hired

821
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: Jojo Wooden as your senior director of Player Personnel. He

822
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: was your former assistant GM over at the Charters. So

823
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 4: with him in place, do you feel that you guys

824
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: have everything set for your front office.

825
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 8: No, we're in good shape right now. When I arrived there.

826
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 10: First of all, they have a very big staff, which

827
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 10: is great to see, and so a lot of good

828
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 10: people there, and I knew some of them already just

829
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 10: for being in the league a long time between their

830
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 10: college and pro staff and just watching, you know, watching

831
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 10: how the draft meanings that took place a couple weeks ago,

832
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 10: to watch how that I'll kind of unfolded, and then

833
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 10: we have to get ready for free agency. I think

834
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 10: we're in a really good place with our personnel in

835
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 10: the front office, and we're kind of working through to there.

836
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 10: But yeah, luckily there's some really good people in place. Obviously,

837
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 10: you know, I'm going to make some changes along the

838
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 10: way as far as how we do things, but I

839
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 10: also want to take some things that they've already done

840
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 10: that work well and kind of incorporated that into to

841
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 10: what I want to do, and you know, make this

842
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 10: a Raiders process.

843
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: How fast do you have to move on those things

844
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: or do you kind of just take a status quo

845
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: kind of op approach because you got business to take

846
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: care of here in two weeks and then you've got

847
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: some spending to do in free agency, and then you

848
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: got draft prep. Is that something that's more down the

849
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: line where you kind of move some pieces around and

850
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: philosophically you kind of see where you need to make

851
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: a shifter.

852
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 8: Too, great questions.

853
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 10: So what I told everybody is like, I'm gonna adjust

854
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 10: to them from now until April. Like it's hard to

855
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 10: walk in and start making all these changes, and we've

856
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 10: got so many people that work there that've been doing

857
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 10: one thing one way for the last year. So yeah,

858
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 10: a lot of the big change will take place over

859
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 10: the summer when we have time to kind of kind

860
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 10: of go through them and kind of educate and teach them.

861
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 10: It's easier for one person to adjust right now than

862
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 10: everybody else. So I told them coming in, like I'm

863
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 10: going to try and you go at your pace, and

864
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 10: we're gonna do it the same way, your same process,

865
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 10: your same calendar. I'll make a couple of tweaks here

866
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 10: or there, but a lot of the big changes will

867
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 10: be in the summer.

868
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: You look at the AFC West and you've got Andy Reid,

869
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: You've got Jim Harbaugh, you've got Sean Payton, you and

870
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: head coach Antonio Pierce and made some veteran assistant hires

871
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: within your coaching staff last several weeks. Was that done

872
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: in recognition of the competition in the AFC West.

873
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 8: Well, a lot of competition.

874
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 10: It's like murderers row And I'm still hoping Andy Reid

875
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 10: will retire and I keep asking him to retire and

876
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 10: he won't do it. So yeah, I mean it's it's

877
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 10: a who's who are coaches in our division? But no,

878
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 10: we have a really experienced staff, and I think that

879
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 10: was important to have. Antony has a lot of experience

880
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 10: as a player in this league, has a lot of

881
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 10: experience in coaching, just not a lot of experience as

882
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 10: the head coach, and that will kind of come. But

883
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 10: actually Washington work the process of hiring the assistant coaches,

884
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 10: washing him how.

885
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 8: He did it. He did it like a pro. So

886
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 8: that was great to see.

887
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 10: But I think it's good to have people to bounce

888
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 10: ideas off of. Marvin Lewis is great now to bounce

889
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 10: ideas off as a coach, but he also has a

890
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 10: great eye for talent. But kind of you know, and

891
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 10: spread that experience across the staff. I think it's important

892
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 10: to have.

893
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got Joe Philbin on the staff, a

894
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: couple of other guys that you know, have been in

895
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: a league a long.

896
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Time, seen a lot.

897
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 2: I believe, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,

898
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: but I believe you're on record saying you want to

899
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: bring quarterback competition in for Aidan O'Connell. Are you thinking

900
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: veteran free agent or what havev'? Do you do you

901
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: think you'll pursue to do.

902
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 8: That right now?

903
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 10: We need to look at all avenues and like I was,

904
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 10: you know, really happy with what I've seen from Aidan

905
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 10: O'Connell and even talking from people in the building to

906
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 10: see what he did last year with the football team

907
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 10: that obviously the head coach that was let go. He

908
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 10: was also the offensive coordinator. So you've got a rookie

909
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 10: quarterback playing the last half of the year with a

910
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 10: new coordinator. Left tackle was hurt, Josh Jacobs got hurt

911
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 10: late in the year. It's a tough situation for a

912
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 10: young quarterback to be in, and I thought he performed

913
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 10: really well. He's tough, he's poised. You know, he didn't

914
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 10: play every game at a high, high level, which I

915
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 10: don't think any rookie quarterback can.

916
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 8: But he played, played.

917
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 10: A couple of games really high level, one against the Chargers,

918
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 10: but he played very consistently and he's got the ability.

919
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 8: To start in this league. So but you need more

920
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 8: than one.

921
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 10: As we saw last year how many quarterbacks went down

922
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 10: to the course of the year, So you got to

923
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 10: have multiple people there. We'll kind of look at all avenues.

924
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 10: We'll kind of see how it shakes out. I don't know,

925
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 10: I have no answers today as I said here, Yeah,

926
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 10: and I probably won't have any answers when I leave

927
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 10: here at the combine, but kind of take it from there.

928
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: I know we're ways away from the draft, but if

929
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: you look at mock drafts, several of them have you

930
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: taking a quarterback or an offensive lineman with that number

931
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 4: thirteenth pick.

932
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: Do you want to take the.

933
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: Best player available in year one as the GM of

934
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: the Raiders, or are you looking to zero in on

935
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: a few positions.

936
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's always tough.

937
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 10: I mean, typically we'd like to take the best player there,

938
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 10: because the whole thing with team needs is team needs change.

939
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 10: They change a lot. Like a need we have right

940
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 10: now may not be neat in August. There may be

941
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 10: a part of our football team I feel is really strong,

942
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 10: and then we get to August, it's like, boy, this

943
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 10: group isn't good enough or somebody gets hurt. That happened

944
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 10: with us with the Chargers. When I first got there

945
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 10: my very first draft, the deepest group in the football

946
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 10: team was the receiver group. So I really didn't think

947
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 10: draft wise, you're probably looking at that position. And then

948
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 10: we're in the third round and Keenan Allen is sitting

949
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 10: right there and I'm looking everywhere. I'm like that too,

950
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 10: like it's staring at us, like what are we going

951
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 10: to do? And so we take him fully annoying, like, look,

952
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 10: he may be an Act of all year, it may

953
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 10: have to just red shirt the year, but we took

954
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 10: him anyways. And then we had one receiver get hurt

955
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 10: and no tas one get hurt in training camp and

956
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 10: the guy didn't quite play at the level we thought,

957
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, it's like we don't have anybody.

958
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 8: All of a sudden, keene steps in his Rookie of

959
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 8: the Year. So you know, to try and just go

960
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 8: based on where your team needs.

961
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 10: Happened to be in April, I think is fools gold sometimes,

962
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 10: So you'd like to try and take the best player available.

963
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 8: That's kind of how you look at it.

964
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: You've got a head coach who likes to run the ball,

965
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: there's no secret about that. And you have a good

966
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: feature guy in Josh Jacobs. But he's again a free agent,

967
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: twenty six years old, a team captain last year. How

968
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: do you kind of navigate that? Because we know the

969
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: running back market can be tricky, and we know running

970
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: back longevity isn't something in plentiful supply in this league.

971
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a tricky position, and there's a you know,

972
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 10: pretty big pool of running backs that are available this year,

973
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 10: not only in frequency, but a little bit in the

974
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 10: draft as well. Yeah, and Josh's case is, you know,

975
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 10: he's so good in the run game, in the pass

976
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 10: game and pass protect you can do a lot of

977
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 10: different things for you. And you know, we've got a

978
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 10: young quarterback right now that you know, could probably use

979
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 10: that guy behind him.

980
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 8: So we'll kind of work through that explored. And he's

981
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 8: like he's, as I said.

982
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 10: On the p before, like we want to get to

983
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 10: a point where we're resigning our own players where then

984
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 10: signing you know, UF base from other teams. So the

985
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 10: fact that I didn't draft Josh doesn't bother me like

986
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 10: he's a raider. He's drafted raider. He's already showing me

987
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 10: a really good player. These are type of guys that

988
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 10: we want to bring back.

989
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: You're projected to have about forty two million dollars of

990
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: cap space to work with. How do you expect to

991
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: use free agency to fill some of the needs that

992
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: you guys have?

993
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're gonna have to use it a little bit

994
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 10: this year. I'd rather not use it a lot, but

995
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 10: just you know, I'm just arriving here, and Tony really

996
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 10: is a new it's a new regime really, so we're

997
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 10: starting from scratch. We're gonna have to use this supplement

998
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 10: a little bit this year just to kind of get

999
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 10: the team where we need to go, at least initially.

1000
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 10: So you know, we look probably a good amount of

1001
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 10: positions and try and you know, spread them out the

1002
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 10: money as much as we can.

1003
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: I know you probably have dealt with this already, but

1004
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, the Bills are a team still trying to

1005
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: get past the Chiefs, just like everybody else seemingly in

1006
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: the AFC. And while they don't make their roster decisions

1007
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: solely on beating the based solely on beating the Chiefs.

1008
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: They are the team to beat, like at the end

1009
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: of the day.

1010
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: So you know, you've been in the division a while already,

1011
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: so you know what you're up against. Do you have

1012
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: to take what makes them successful into consideration or are

1013
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: you more in a foundational stage with this team right

1014
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: now where you just got to kind of focus on

1015
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: you guys.

1016
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 10: I'd like to say the book answered be Hey, I'm

1017
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 10: focused on us, but my gut, you can't help but

1018
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 10: see them right there. And I've watched them for the

1019
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 10: last eleven years. So anyway, as you're building your team,

1020
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 10: you can't help but think back to, well, how does

1021
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 10: this line up with the Chiefs, How does this line

1022
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 10: up with Mahomes? It always enters your mind, but you

1023
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 10: do have to try and account for Hey, you know

1024
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 10: the other teams are our division? Where are they weak?

1025
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 10: Where can we attack them? And that's how we build

1026
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 10: our team as well. So it's one big, long process.

1027
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 10: But yeah, you can't help but see who's there? Yeah,

1028
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 10: you know, and to know what quarterback is there?

1029
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, we appreciate the time as always, you know,

1030
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: are you gonna get back to you canna get back

1031
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: to Western New York in the summer.

1032
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 10: That's the plan. That's the plan, at least for a

1033
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 10: couple of days. It's just, you know, sometimes it's hard

1034
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 10: to figure out. And now that we're you gonna have

1035
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 10: to move a lot Vegas that could affect things.

1036
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 8: But we'd love to get back.

1037
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 10: But tell Steve Tasker and Murphy I said, hello, definitely,

1038
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 10: and no thanks rovers having me on.

1039
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: And yeah, good luck this season. Appreciate things going there.

1040
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: And Las Vegas are and the Raiders good luck to you.

1041
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: That is Tom Telasco Raiders GM joining us here on

1042
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. We'll take a break when we come

1043
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: back for hour number two. Buffalo Bills general manager Brandon

1044
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: Bean will be joining us.

1045
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: We'll chat with him next year on One Bill's Live.

1046
00:47:24,040 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: Stay tuned the One Bill's Lives presented by Kalia Health.

1047
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to our number two of One Bill's Live.

1048
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Matti glab And joining us now is Bill's

1049
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: general manager Brandon Bean, live here at the NFL Combine.

1050
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: And thanks has always for giving us some time as

1051
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: you do every year here. We appreciate it. Let's just

1052
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: jump right into it. I would imagine this. This would

1053
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: qualify as good news. You get the salary cap figure,

1054
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: it's two fifty five point four.

1055
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: So the question is how much do you.

1056
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: Feel that has reduced the burden that sits in front

1057
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: of you of becoming cap compliant.

1058
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, listen, every dollar is a dollar you

1059
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 11: can use in your advantage. So it's definitely good to

1060
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 11: finally have that because we've been speculating, and we were

1061
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 11: not speculating that high. You're always trying to take a

1062
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 11: conservative approach to what you're doing. But we've been looking

1063
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 11: at everything. We've had conversations with different players about different things.

1064
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: Some of that has started.

1065
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 11: Some of the will pick up this week, and you know,

1066
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 11: we know we've got a time crunch here, you know,

1067
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 11: the next couple of weeks that we have to be

1068
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 11: in compliance. But yes, two fifty five much better than

1069
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 11: to forty five. Not as good as two sixty five,

1070
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 11: but uh, we're happy. We'll take what we can get, right,

1071
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 11: and uh.

1072
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 12: We still have work to do.

1073
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brandon, you guys have quite a few free agents.

1074
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: We heard from Sean McDermott yesterday and he talked about

1075
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 4: Gabe Davis and just how much this team has loved

1076
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: Gabe Davis and what he's offered to the offense, but

1077
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 4: he's somebody who's a free agent. Have you guys had

1078
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: any discussions with him in his camp yet?

1079
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we've we've always with our most of

1080
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 11: our players, we've had some kind of conversation, whether it

1081
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 11: was the spring, the summer, in season, postseason.

1082
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 5: You know, it's never.

1083
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 11: Been a we're not going to talk about it like

1084
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 11: we were always open dialogue, hearing them out them, hearing us.

1085
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 11: Gabe is one of those guys that special love for,

1086
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 11: you know, and you guys have heard We've always want

1087
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 11: to say we want to draft, develop, and sign. There

1088
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 11: is a cap on everything, and we've had to see

1089
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 11: last year we had to see a Tremaine Edmunds walk,

1090
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 11: and there's been a guy here or there that you know,

1091
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 11: you're still trying to fit the puzzle. And and as

1092
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 11: we every year into paying a quarterback, it get you know,

1093
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 11: the you know, the allotment just gets gets a little tighter.

1094
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 11: So we'll we'll have open conversations, you know, with Gabe

1095
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 11: and his reps all the way up into free agency

1096
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 11: and we'll see where it goes. You would always love

1097
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 11: to to keep a guy like Gabe. He's been such

1098
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 11: a pro team captain this year, which was which was

1099
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 11: cool in an honor for him. And you'll never get me,

1100
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 11: you know, saying a bad word about Gabe.

1101
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 5: He's been awesome in the four years.

1102
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 11: And uh, we'll find out here in a few weeks

1103
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 11: if it's something we're able to continue or not.

1104
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: I know, from a sheer numbers standpoint, there's work to

1105
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: do on the D line there. I mean, eight of

1106
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: your twelve guys are unrestricted. Yeah, and I know you

1107
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: mentioned that your season rap at press conference day Quon

1108
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: was kind of a guy you'd love to have back

1109
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: in the fold. So I assume you're kind of traveling

1110
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: down that same path, but at the same time with

1111
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 2: your cap situation. And I know, I think you've mentioned

1112
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: this in past years, you kind of say, hey, here's

1113
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: the value we put on you. If you want to

1114
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: try to see if you can do better in the market,

1115
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: that's your prerogative, and absolutely go and do that. But

1116
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: here's where we are. Do you do that with people

1117
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: like day one that you want back in the fold?

1118
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 11: Yes, definitely at the right time with each guy, And

1119
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 11: and listen, we listen. It's it's an open dialogue. Like

1120
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 11: some guys that are like, hey, I really want to

1121
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 11: stay here. I don't want to leave. Let's see if

1122
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 11: we can knock this out. I'd rather not wait a

1123
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 11: free agency. Some players are like, hey, you know what,

1124
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 11: I've gone this far. I'd like to I want to

1125
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 11: have conversations. I want to know if you guys are interested,

1126
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 11: but I don't know if I want to commit till

1127
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 11: you know, my agent does some research at the combine

1128
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 11: and and then the you know, the couple the weeks

1129
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 11: you know, from once we leave here till it actually starts.

1130
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 11: So it's an open dialogue. Every situation is it's own.

1131
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 11: But you know, with day one, yes, well, we'll have

1132
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 11: conversations and if we can get it worked out. You know,

1133
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 11: a value that works for him and a value that

1134
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 11: works for us, we'd love to have.

1135
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: But that's gotta be tough because you've got a laundry

1136
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: list of people that you want to try to get

1137
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: some kind of definitive response on to, like, hey, this

1138
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: is headed in this direction. All right, let's budget that accordingly,

1139
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: this is in this direction, Let's budget that.

1140
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: Okay, this guy does want to come back.

1141
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: We can budget, but if you've got guys that want

1142
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 2: to wait, it's like the clock.

1143
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the problem.

1144
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: And they got to massage that like constantly you.

1145
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 11: Do, and you're always you're playing a little bit of

1146
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 11: poker here too.

1147
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, because.

1148
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 11: You know you're also filling out the market. What are

1149
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 11: the options at that position? In daik One's case, detackle like,

1150
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 11: what are your other viable options should he go elsewhere?

1151
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 11: And it is a game, you know, that is one

1152
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 11: of the things if you take it into free agency,

1153
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 11: we have to also assume that you're gonna leave. So

1154
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 11: once that negotiating window opens two days prior, it's kind

1155
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 11: of we're all.

1156
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 5: Kind of in this open season.

1157
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 11: It's open season, and if we don't have a deal

1158
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 11: in place or something that seems imminent, then we also

1159
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 11: have to have conversations with other players at that position.

1160
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: You got to do right by the organization.

1161
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 11: I think we got to protect the bills first and foremost.

1162
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 11: We want the best for all our guys. Who wouldn't

1163
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 11: want Gabe Davis, Daikwan Jones run down the gamut? I mean,

1164
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 11: we we love our guys. There's there's very few times

1165
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 11: I'm going I'm done with that guy. I wouldn't want

1166
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 11: to see him back in the Bill's uniform.

1167
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: Huh, Well, we really want to get an update on

1168
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: Trey White and Matt Milano's help. We've seen both of

1169
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: them in the building rehabbing, so where are they at

1170
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: in that rehab process? And then with Trey White, is

1171
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 4: it a how do you kind of balance where this

1172
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: team is at with the cap situation and then the

1173
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: injury that he had, because it does take quite some

1174
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: time to recover from that injury.

1175
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, Trey, we've talked about it. You know,

1176
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 11: we'll start with him. It's just what he's meant to

1177
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 11: this organization and everything he's done, and to have the

1178
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 11: injury in twenty one, we all saw him work so

1179
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 11: hard to come back. Probably wasn't looking like the Trey

1180
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 11: White that he wanted to be at the end of

1181
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 11: the twenty two season, but you really were starting to

1182
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 11: see him come into form. I'm not gonna say he

1183
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 11: was all the way back or not. You've had to

1184
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 11: ask him, but you were definitely seeing a guy who

1185
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 11: was trending up and then all of a sudden, this

1186
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 11: Achilles on the other side, Pops and it's just like, man,

1187
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 11: can can the guy get a break? And it's just

1188
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 11: you know, you feel for him, and but once again,

1189
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 11: he has attacked this thing. He's in there all the time.

1190
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 11: I've had breakfast with him a couple of times here

1191
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 11: since the season's ended, because you know, these guys are

1192
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 11: it's lonely. You've got a locker room full of seventy

1193
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 11: five eighty players and all of a sudden you got

1194
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 11: three or four guys you know, rehabbing down there.

1195
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 5: But he has worked super hard.

1196
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 11: He's he's been a main staple here since Sean and

1197
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 11: I got here, and you know, he's continued to rehab.

1198
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 11: I don't have like a definitive timeline of yet when

1199
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 11: he'd be back, but he's doing well, working hard, everything

1200
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 11: you would expect from Trey White.

1201
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: And then what about Matt Milano as well?

1202
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Matt, thanks for reminder. So Matt, same thing.

1203
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 11: He he had a recent uh visit uh with the

1204
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 11: with one of the docs that did his surgery, and

1205
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 11: and so all is going well. It's a it's a

1206
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 11: little bit of a different injury than uh, you know,

1207
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 11: an a c L or an achilles or things that

1208
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 11: happened to a lot of football players.

1209
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 5: So we're still working with him.

1210
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 11: He's working his way back, very positive, you know, anticipating

1211
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 11: him his things to continue to ramp up.

1212
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 5: I don't know what yet he would look like in.

1213
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 11: O t As if we would even have clearance for

1214
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 11: him to fully participate.

1215
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 5: I think it's one of those things.

1216
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 11: You'll see him on the side or doing stuff, and

1217
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 11: maybe there's a chance, but we're optimistic that Matt will

1218
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 11: be ready to go at the right time when when

1219
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 11: when the pads come on.

1220
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so like training camp, it's probably trending good for that.

1221
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 11: You think, well, you know, as we sit here today,

1222
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 11: I would I would say so, but it's we still got.

1223
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 5: A lot of time.

1224
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, And and I wouldn't want to sit here and

1225
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 11: say it's day one of training camp either.

1226
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 5: I just I think.

1227
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 11: It's Uh, he is working hard, he's doing well. The

1228
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 11: updates so far have been positive. And you know Matt

1229
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 11: like he's he's a super optimistic guy, just sleeps each ball.

1230
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 5: All the time. It's all you almost have to force

1231
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 5: him to go enjoy yourself a little bit.

1232
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: You said last month, no big splashes in free agency

1233
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: based on the cap situation.

1234
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: So what should we expect.

1235
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: How would you describe how you feel you're going to

1236
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: be able to proceed in the free agent market.

1237
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean part of that is we're still working

1238
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 11: through like what can we create. You know, we're not

1239
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 11: trying to also pile up a huge dead cap hit

1240
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 11: in one year or anything like that. So we're we're

1241
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 11: trying to you know, we're looking at various you know options,

1242
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 11: whether we extend a guy, whether we alter his current contract,

1243
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 11: whether we just just convert them and again put it

1244
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 11: on the credit card and move it down.

1245
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: So we're looking at everything every guy's had.

1246
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 11: You saw we got Connor McGovern done, which was just

1247
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 11: a straight kind of move it down.

1248
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 5: We were working.

1249
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 11: We got kind of buckets for each yeah, each one,

1250
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 11: and we're trying to massage it and get it down. Yes,

1251
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 11: the two fifty five number help for what we need

1252
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 11: to get under, but you're right now, how much can

1253
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 11: you get under that you can go spend And one

1254
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 11: of the things he gets lost, Chris, is you still

1255
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 11: have to save money for draft picks, and you're gonna

1256
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 11: spend three three and a half million on practice squad players,

1257
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 11: like people don't realize. And then replacement players, like we

1258
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 11: I think we spent over five million bucks on replacement

1259
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 11: players this year. Yeah, for injury, right, So those things

1260
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 11: add up and you can't go into the season, you know,

1261
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 11: with one hundred dollars in your pocket and expect to

1262
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 11: make it through a seventeen game season.

1263
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 5: So all of those things.

1264
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 11: So just because you're five million under doesn't mean you

1265
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 11: really have five million to spend. We're also kind of preparing,

1266
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 11: you know, to be able to go into the season

1267
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 11: and pay your practice squad and also replacement players.

1268
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 4: When you look at free agency, the mark it for

1269
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: veteran safeties this year will be quite flooded again, just

1270
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: like it was last year. How does that impact your

1271
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: approach to going after that position, knowing that there's quite

1272
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: a few safeties on this roster set to become free agents.

1273
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it does help.

1274
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 11: And it kind of goes back to that conversation of

1275
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 11: who you're bringing back, you know, who in what position

1276
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 11: they're going to feel, what are their strengths, What is

1277
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 11: out there in the market again, what is the price?

1278
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 11: What are we looking for out of our safeties? You know,

1279
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 11: we've we've been fortunate here to have two guys, you know,

1280
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 11: Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer for almost all of you know,

1281
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 11: seven seasons, which is something I've been in this league

1282
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 11: twenty six years now or something. I've never seen a

1283
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 11: safety tandem stay together for that long, either due to

1284
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 11: you know, injury or free agency or whatever. So we've

1285
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 11: been spoiled and so trying to you know, find guys

1286
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 11: to continue that is never going to be easy. But

1287
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 11: we'll still work through our stuff and we'll pay attention

1288
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 11: to not only our own.

1289
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 5: Guys, but what else is out there. As we looked

1290
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 5: at phil spots.

1291
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: We've seen and maybe it's partly due to the fact

1292
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: that you have less time on the field in pads

1293
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: for players, but we've seen a lot of your guys

1294
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: really kind of crescendo in the third year of their

1295
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: rookie contract. Spencer Brown, Dawson Knox. I mean, you can

1296
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: run down the list of guys that have done that.

1297
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: This is year three coming up for Kyrie Elian. Knowing

1298
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: the year three history of a lot of your draft

1299
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: choices and the fact that there is some new young

1300
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: blood on the defensive staff, on the back end of

1301
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: your coaching staff defensively, do you think it could be

1302
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: a fresh start this year for Kyer.

1303
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you hope. So listen.

1304
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 11: I thought, you know, it was kind of a weird year.

1305
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 11: I thought he started camp really well. He has this

1306
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 11: foot deal that was probably bothering him more than he

1307
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 11: let on. Yeah, it affected him, and then we kind

1308
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 11: of we finally set him down because he did not

1309
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 11: look like the same guy. We set him down, and

1310
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 11: I thought when he came back he was playing much

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Speaker 11: more free. Obviously he had the interception, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: he would probably say he should have had two.

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Speaker 5: And and and we would echo that, would you know, if.

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Speaker 11: He catches that ball against Pittsburgh. But Kyer is a

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Speaker 11: guy that we still have a lot of belief in

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Speaker 11: and sometimes a fresh you know start for anyone is good.

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Speaker 11: But we left it even before coaching changes or whatever

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Speaker 11: happened with our defensive staff. We left it with him

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Speaker 11: that hey, uh come back here, raided, roll new fresh,

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Speaker 11: you know, just all new Outlook, let's let's go, let's

1321
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Speaker 11: let's hit the ground running. Hopefully no setbacks. And uh,

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Speaker 11: you know, Kyer has done some good things for us.

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Speaker 11: Has everything been perfect? No, But to your point, we've

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Speaker 11: had some other guys that this is a different animal

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Speaker 11: from college to pro and some guys get to there

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Speaker 11: quicker than others. They're not all going to be a

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Speaker 11: you know, a Dalton Kincaid or you know, even you

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Speaker 11: know Cybo this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Uh, some guys take a little longer, you know, a

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Speaker 11: g Epessa Spencer Brown. I thought Epanessa and his you

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Speaker 11: third and fourth year really you know, ascended as well

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Speaker 11: from what he was kind of.

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Speaker 5: His first two years.

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Speaker 4: During the last couple press conferences that you guys held

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Speaker 4: heading into the offseason, we heard from you and Sean

1337
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Speaker 4: and several players saying, you know, this team is one

1338
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Speaker 4: to two plays away from getting over that hump, from

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Speaker 4: winning the big time games, from getting into an opportunity

1340
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Speaker 4: to play in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Once you looked back.

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Speaker 4: At at the season and the film, is there something

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Speaker 4: concrete that you need within this offense, whether it's in

1344
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: the free agency or in the draft, that that you

1345
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Speaker 4: think you can get those one to two plays.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think again, Maddy, we always believe it starts

1347
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 11: up front. Obviously, got to have a quarterback, and we

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Speaker 11: all believe in Josh and I think this was the

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01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 11: best year for our O line since we had been here.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was the best group.

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Speaker 11: Fortunately, I know we had some injuries on defense. Fortunately,

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 11: you know, on offensive line, those guys all stuck together

1353
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 11: and played out all year. I thought that really helped

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01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 11: our offense. And then so you start there because you

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Speaker 11: can that allows you to run the ball. I thought

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Speaker 11: we had some really good games, especially late in the year,

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Speaker 11: running the ball. It also helps you, you know, pass protect.

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Speaker 11: I thought our pocket was as clean as it had

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Speaker 11: been in years for Josh, which that's where it starts.

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Speaker 11: And then you're trying to adding weapons, you know, whether

1361
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 11: it's Digs, Kincaid, cook out of the backfield, shake here

1362
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Speaker 11: came on late.

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Speaker 5: Just the various pieces. So we'll always look for.

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Speaker 11: Guys, you know, I said that when we drafted Kinkaid, like,

1365
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Speaker 11: what are some mismatch pieces. Don't get caught up in

1366
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Speaker 11: running back or receiver or tight end or whatever skill

1367
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 11: position it is. If there's a mismatch player that we

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Speaker 11: can add to this offense, that gives Joe Brady and

1369
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 11: staff just different opportunities because you play all sorts of defenses.

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Speaker 11: You play teams that want to press, you play teams

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Speaker 11: that want to just play too high shell and play

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Speaker 11: back and make you deconduct the ball down the field.

1373
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 11: So you want as many options as you can because

1374
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 11: you're going to face different battles. Teams that want to

1375
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 11: blitz the heck out of you, teams that rarely blitz.

1376
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Speaker 11: So how many answers can we provide to our coaches

1377
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 11: for each week, because every week it is its own,

1378
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 11: you know, kind of its own game in itself of

1379
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 11: how you game plan.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned or at least threw it out there last

1381
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: month that your season wrap up, that you may have

1382
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Speaker 2: to rely on some younger players here going forward, just

1383
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: again to the nature of your cap and where you

1384
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Speaker 2: can spend and how much you can spend. And I

1385
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Speaker 2: know sometimes in the past you've also referred to the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City build being one or two years ahead of

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Speaker 2: you guys, because they got started one or two years

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Speaker 2: ahead of you guys, and they went with a big

1389
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Speaker 2: youth movement a couple of years ago. Do you kind

1390
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Speaker 2: of feel like you're at that point in your build?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I think we're definitely going to have

1392
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 11: to rely It's just it's the nature of the beast

1393
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Speaker 11: with the cap. They obviously made a big decision a

1394
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Speaker 11: couple of years ago to part with Tyreek Hill, which

1395
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Speaker 11: I'm sure was not easy. You know, we get to

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Speaker 11: face him now twice a year instead of once a year.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but that's that was not an easy decision for them,

1399
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 11: but they did it knowing where their cap was and

1400
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Speaker 11: that they were going to have to rely on youth.

1401
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 11: So yes, as that cap tightens to where it has tightened,

1402
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 11: on us, just again more years. Every year you're adding

1403
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 11: a franchise quarterback onto there, you're gonna have to push

1404
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 11: money down and which we'll have to continue to do,

1405
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 11: but you will have to rely on more young players.

1406
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Speaker 5: And that's where the onus. I'm looking at the man

1407
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Speaker 5: in the mirror.

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Speaker 11: I've got to do a really good job of putting

1409
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Speaker 11: our scouts on the right guys, pointing them to me

1410
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Speaker 11: and us finding value in when we're shopping in free agency.

1411
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 11: And then you know, right now we've got ten picks

1412
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Speaker 11: in this draft. We've got we've got to hit them,

1413
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Speaker 11: and we've got to count on them, and we're gonna

1414
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 11: have to get some guys up to speed, and we

1415
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 11: may have to roll out some guys earlier than we

1416
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 11: had before. They got to be ready and again, it

1417
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Speaker 11: starts with me making sure that we're bringing the right guys.

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Speaker 4: In speaking of hitting on those picks, we're at the

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Speaker 4: NFL Scouting Combine. You've been doing interviews with prospects. They're

1420
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Speaker 4: about to test in the next couple of days as well.

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Speaker 4: Where do you see depth in this year's draft class.

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Speaker 11: I think that I think it's a pretty good class.

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 11: I mean I do think, you know, on the offensive side,

1424
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 11: it seems like every year there's just receivers, so you

1425
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 11: start their offensive line. I think there's some tackles. There's

1426
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Speaker 11: also some tackles that can play guard, you know, I

1427
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 11: would say there's more tackles than guards this year, where

1428
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 11: some years has been the other way. On defense, I

1429
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 11: think there's some d line. I do think there's some

1430
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 11: tackles and ends. I think there's some guys on the

1431
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Speaker 11: back end as well, So I think we'll have some

1432
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Speaker 11: opportunities to find some players in various rounds where obviously

1433
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 11: just now getting to know some of these guys other

1434
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Speaker 11: than the ones we met at the Senior Bowl. So

1435
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Speaker 11: it's been a fun start and we'll know a lot

1436
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Speaker 11: more at the end of the week.

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Speaker 2: Brand I know you've got a lot of work over

1438
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 2: the next two weeks. Good luck getting it done. Thanks

1439
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: as always for the time, and we'll catch up with

1440
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: you a little bit later on down the line here

1441
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: this offseason.

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Speaker 5: Good luck, it sounds good. Thanks.

1443
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: That's Bill's general manager Brandon Being joining us here on

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Speaker 2: One Bills Live.

1445
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Speaker 1: We'll take a break.

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01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: We'll be back with plenty more before we're done here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday edition. It's One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: a lot of hell fuss Buffalo Bills raiding. All right,

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown here at

1450
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, and we want to

1451
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: pass along our next interview to you.

1452
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: We had the opportunity to sit.

1453
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: Down with NFL lead draft analyst for the NFL Network,

1454
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, who covered a number of topics including depth

1455
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: positions in the draft and what the Bills might be

1456
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 2: looking at it pick twenty eight. So let's turned now

1457
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Speaker 2: to Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network. All right, we've

1458
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: got Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network lead draft analyst, crunching three

1459
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: hundred some odd guys into his brain for another year

1460
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 2: here and Daniel, we've got to start here as far

1461
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: as your top fifty prospects, which I know you put

1462
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: your initial list out a little while back, and the

1463
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 2: three positions that had the highest number of prospects corner

1464
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: with seven, offensive tackle with eight, and wide receiver with eleven,

1465
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: which is music to the years of Bills fans who

1466
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: know they're picking twenty eighth and probably realize Gabe Davis

1467
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: might get priced out of their range with their cap

1468
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: issues that they have. Question for you is how far

1469
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: do you feel the quality receiver depth carries through day

1470
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: two and day three.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think it definitely carries through day two.

1472
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Speaker 9: I mean, I think you can find second and third

1473
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 9: round wide receivers that can.

1474
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Speaker 12: Come in and play and be impactful right away.

1475
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Speaker 9: I mean it's kind of a you know wash Rents

1476
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 9: repeat the college is that's just what we're getting. Yeah,

1477
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 9: it goes all the way, you know, all the way

1478
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 9: back to high school seven on seven and then every

1479
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 9: college running spread offense and chucking it all over the

1480
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Speaker 9: place that I feel like every year we've got just

1481
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 9: a ridiculous number of whiteouts.

1482
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 4: Well we'll get to some of those whiteouts later in

1483
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Speaker 4: this interview, but we want to talk about depth in

1484
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 4: this draft class overall. And if you look at Buffalo's

1485
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 4: defensive line, eight of the twelve defensive linemen that we're

1486
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: on contract last season, only eight of them four of

1487
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 4: them are under contract for this upcoming season, So that

1488
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: means you have eight free agents. So Buffalo is going

1489
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 4: to have to address that spot in the draft and

1490
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 4: probably free agency. We know free agency is around the

1491
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 4: corner first, but they could address that spot in the

1492
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: draft as well. So can you help us by looking

1493
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 4: at the defensive line class that we have and compare

1494
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 4: and contrast the edge rushers and the defensive tackles coming

1495
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 4: out of this year's draft?

1496
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Speaker 12: Sure?

1497
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 9: I think when you start with the edge rushers, to me,

1498
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 9: there's three guys that kind of separate themselves from the bunch,

1499
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 9: and I don't think Buffalo is going to see any

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Speaker 9: of the three. So the last of which would be

1501
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 9: I apologize officially but a lot too from UCLA would

1502
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 9: be the one just because of some medical stuff. He

1503
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 9: had been medically retired at Washington before he got to UCLA,

1504
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 9: so just seeing how he comes through that process, that

1505
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 9: would be the only one. I think, maybe very small

1506
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 9: chance he would be there, but Dallas. Turner is going

1507
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 9: to be gone, Jared versus going to be gone. So

1508
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 9: you're looking at like Chop Robinson, you know, potentially from

1509
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 9: Penn State could be an option there, Danarius Robinson from Missouri.

1510
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 9: Those are kind of those guys in that mix. And

1511
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 9: then defensive tackle wise, you know, I think there's a

1512
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 9: chance you you have somebody there. You know, it's not

1513
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 9: it's not a deep group of defensive tackles, but I

1514
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 9: think of that top group, you know, you've got Murphy

1515
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 9: from Texas, he'll likely be gone, uh Newton from Illinois

1516
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 9: as possible. I think that's an area where you could

1517
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 9: see potentially him being still there. But it's not to

1518
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 9: get to your question, I don't think either one of

1519
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 9: those positions. When we talk about receiver, if it's close

1520
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 9: and you have a receiver versus a you know, either

1521
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 9: a defensive tackle or an edgresher take the defensive tackle

1522
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 9: the edgere you can get the receiver on, but it's

1523
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 9: gonna fall off a cliff when you look at those defensive.

1524
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: One all right, Well, that kind of gives us an

1525
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: idea which way Brandon might be leaning at the end

1526
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: of round one, especially knowing his propensity to take defensive

1527
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: lineman and his history in Round one. Safety is a

1528
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 2: position that looks like it's going to be experiencing turnover

1529
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: for the first time in a long time for the Bills.

1530
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: You know, we know Micah Hyde is probably contemplating retirement

1531
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: among other things. As far as his career is concerned.

1532
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: He's not under contract. Jordan Poyer has a big cap number,

1533
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: and it's not if he is a full time safety

1534
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 2: or if he's if he is he a sub packaged

1535
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: linebacker kind of guy, which is a role he filled

1536
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: this past year when Milano got hurt. So there's some

1537
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: stuff in the state of flux there, and they got

1538
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 2: a couple of other free agents at the position too.

1539
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 2: I'm expecting being to address safety and free agency because

1540
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: it is a chock full class of veteran free agents.

1541
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: But what about the draft and safety talent? Maybe Day two,

1542
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 2: day three, is there not guys to step in and start,

1543
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: but maybe guys to backfill their roster.

1544
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: Knowing Brandon's probably going free agency route.

1545
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, your your options are much greater in free agency

1546
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 9: the draft wise this year, I don't have a safety

1547
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 9: in my top fifty.

1548
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that.

1549
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 12: You get to me.

1550
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 9: It's you know, Newban's is from Minnesota. He's got a

1551
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 9: chance to go in the top fifty's of production. So

1552
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 9: that would be the one I would say that would

1553
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 9: shock me if he landed somewhere in there. We'll see

1554
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 9: how these guys work out and run and maybe somebody

1555
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 9: will watch themselves up into that mix. But you've got

1556
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 9: Kitchens from from Miami's interesting one. He's kind of right

1557
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 9: there in that mix. You got Bullard from Georgia. Take

1558
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 9: Smith the other safety I kind of like is a

1559
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 9: depth piece later on.

1560
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 12: So there's gonna be guys. I mean, that's the good

1561
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 12: news is if.

1562
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 9: You're saying I'm not looking for a starter, I'm looking

1563
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 9: for somebody that can kind of backfill and play play

1564
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 9: on teams and get in maybe some sub packages and

1565
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 9: find a role on the team.

1566
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 12: That's what the safety class is.

1567
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, we've heard about wide receiver at length already,

1568
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 4: especially the top three guys. We know the Bills won't

1569
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 4: be around for those top three guys, but wide receiver

1570
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 4: has been a popular position. Mocked to the Bills at

1571
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 4: number twenty eight because you could see if you guys

1572
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: still hanging around there in the late twenties, depending on when.

1573
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: The other wide receiver start to go.

1574
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 4: Aside from Romazo adunesa Bleak Neighbors and Marvin Marvin Harrison Junior,

1575
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior has been a popular name mocked to

1576
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 4: the Bills at number twenty eight. I feel like he's

1577
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 4: just got a great body of work, a true talented

1578
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 4: wide receiver with some versatility to him.

1579
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: Had a lot of touchdowns are.

1580
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 4: There his time at LSU? So does he have true

1581
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 4: number one potential? What do you think the Bills would

1582
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: get in a wide receiver like that? And how would

1583
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 4: you see him fitting into Buffalo scheme?

1584
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 9: Sure, I'll get to that in just one second. This

1585
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 9: is what I love about the combine, by the way,

1586
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 9: because I'm.

1587
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 12: Just sitting here.

1588
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 9: We're having a good conversation and Joe Shane's over the

1589
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 9: giants and he just sees me.

1590
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 12: And gives me the head nod. I give him the

1591
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 12: head nod, and we both go about our interviews. That's

1592
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 12: that's so great about it. Buffalo's own Joe Shane.

1593
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 9: But to me, look, Brian Thomas is easy like to me,

1594
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 9: We'll get a chance to see him show a more

1595
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 9: variety of routes out here when he works out as

1596
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 9: well as his pro DA, because didn't have to do

1597
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 9: a bunch of different routes there at LSU.

1598
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 12: It was death by slot fade with those guys.

1599
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 9: I mean they just one vertically at time after time

1600
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 9: after time. But he's fast, he's smooth. He can go

1601
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 9: up and get it, play above the rim down there

1602
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 9: in the red zone. So I'd be curious as we

1603
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 9: get through the process. I don't think he'll be there

1604
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 9: when Buffalo picks. If he is, that might be. That

1605
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 9: might be the one case where I I'd fudge on

1606
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 9: my rule that I just told you taking the defensive player. Well,

1607
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 9: holy cow, this guy's still there if I take him.

1608
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 12: But no, a really, really talented guy.

1609
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1610
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 9: He's so much fun to watch and so silky smooth.

1611
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 9: A lot of times when you're scouting, you get fast,

1612
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 9: stiff guys and you get slow, smooth guys.

1613
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 12: You don't see fast smooth guys very often. Ryan, he

1614
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 12: is one of those.

1615
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: Fast and smooth ad Nai Mitchell is a guy that

1616
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: transfers to Texas. Wanted to be closer to his daughter,

1617
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: from what I understood, and that's why he made the transfer.

1618
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: Because he's a Texas kid, not a big body of work,

1619
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: but some big time performances in some big time games.

1620
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: Played on a Georgia team that kind of spread the

1621
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: wealth around and it kind of ran through Bowers in

1622
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: the passing game.

1623
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 1: For the better part of the last three years.

1624
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: So how do you evaluate a guy like that whose

1625
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: body of work isn't huge but has some big time

1626
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: performances in some big time games. I mean, that guy

1627
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: loved playing against Alabama two touchdowns last year for Texas.

1628
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: He had the game winning touchdown in the semi final

1629
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: when he was back at Georgia against Alabama.

1630
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: How do you evaluate a guy like that.

1631
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 9: I had an unbelievable catch against Washington this year too

1632
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 9: in the semi final. So look, the skills are all there,

1633
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 9: I think to me, and you're gonna see it.

1634
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 12: He is gonna put on a show. He's gonna run.

1635
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's gonna run like crazy, gon jump out of

1636
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 9: the building.

1637
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 12: So he's gonna he's.

1638
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 9: Gonna help himself by what he does from the end

1639
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 9: of the season till we get to the draft. And

1640
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 9: to me, with him, it's just about, okay, can you

1641
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 9: get in private workouts, get a chance to just see

1642
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 9: more volume, see him run more routes, catch the ball.

1643
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 9: I didn't have any issues when I watched him. I'm like,

1644
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 9: I don't know where the really the hole is other

1645
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 9: than the fact he just doesn't get a ton of work. Yeah,

1646
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 9: but it's all it's all in there to me. He's

1647
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 9: a like he is a twenty to thirty five guy.

1648
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 9: He's gonna he's not gonna get out of the top

1649
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 9: of the second round. That's the that's the floor. Yeah,

1650
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 9: for where he's gonna go, especially after he tests.

1651
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 4: Another wide receiver that we've been seeing pop up in

1652
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 4: mock drafts heading to the Bills at number twenty eight

1653
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 4: is Troy Franklin. And he's a wide receiver that's a

1654
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: field stretcher. He can separate with his speed. He's got good.

1655
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 3: Versatility to him.

1656
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 4: But are there any concerns with his frame being around

1657
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty pounds.

1658
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 12: I wish he was big, I do. I mean, it's

1659
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 12: it's fascinating.

1660
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 9: We were gonna have this discussion off of last year

1661
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 9: because we had so many lean framed guys and we

1662
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 9: had and then you know the funny bars. I remember

1663
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 9: having conversations right even done on the podcast with Bucky

1664
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 9: which was halfway the year, were like, man, this is

1665
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 9: gonna change everything because Tank Dell was tearing this league apart, like.

1666
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,440
Speaker 1: Nobody can even DeVante Smith early a couple of years, yes.

1667
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 12: And then and then we get to the end of

1668
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 12: the year and Tank Dell's not playing anymore because you

1669
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 12: get hurt. And it's like, that's the dilemma.

1670
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 9: Is that I'm not saying that you can't play and

1671
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 9: be successful as a lean light player. It's hard to

1672
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 9: stay on the field Sea, So that goes into that

1673
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 9: evaluation and what you know, it'll be interest to see

1674
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 9: how much water weight he's carrying with him this week.

1675
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 12: Might be a little bit north of that number.

1676
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: The other two parts of that University of Washington trio.

1677
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you love a Dunzee. He's a

1678
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: favorite player in the draft. He's gonna be long gone.

1679
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: But what about Polk and McMillan. How would you categorize

1680
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: those two in terms of receiver type and when you

1681
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: call them consistent step raiders.

1682
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 12: So I would say Polk's not really the separator.

1683
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 9: He's more kind of a bully, just real physical, fifty

1684
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 9: to fifty balls, tough and rugged after the catch as well.

1685
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 12: That's more his style.

1686
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 9: McMillan's probably more of a little quick in and out,

1687
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 9: you know, separate type. You probably would say he would

1688
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 9: be kind of in the secure mode. It's kind of

1689
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 9: like what you're trying to use him. That's how his

1690
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 9: role will look like at the next level, would.

1691
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 12: Be my guess. But yeah, I mean that those guys

1692
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 12: have played a lot of football. They're solid players.

1693
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 9: But you're right, I mean the distance between the Dons

1694
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 9: and the other and those that's a that's a healthy gap,

1695
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 9: all right, fair enough, all right, it might cost you

1696
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 9: a little bit to get up to get a donsay,

1697
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 9: I think that might be a book.

1698
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: That's not happening. Daniel.

1699
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: We know you're busy and we're making the rounds here

1700
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: on Radio Row, so we appreciate the time.

1701
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: So thanks very much for doing it.

1702
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 12: I enjoyed it, all right.

1703
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: That's NFL lead Draft analyst for NFL Network, Daniel Jeremiah

1704
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: joining us here a little bit earlier. We had to

1705
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: pre tape his interview because he's got other obligations here.

1706
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: So good to catch up with Daniel, as we try

1707
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: to do every year here at the NFL Combine. We'll

1708
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: take a break here, but when Maddy and I come back,

1709
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: we'll kind of close up shop and have some final

1710
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: thoughts on a very busy Tuesday here.

1711
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: At the NFL Combine in India.

1712
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: It's One Bill's Live, presented by a lot of help.

1713
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to

1714
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live Tuesday edition here at the NFL Scouting

1715
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: Combine in Indianapolis.

1716
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: And well, that was a busy day. Huh, Holy mackerel.

1717
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: That was a lot of interviewing, a lot of questions.

1718
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: But I think we got some good answers, particularly out

1719
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: of Brandon Bean, who usually is pretty self effacing as

1720
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 2: GMS go, I think in this league. And I think

1721
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: some of the things that I came away with from

1722
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: the conversation we had with Brandon was, yes, there is

1723
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: a laundry list of things that have to get done

1724
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: in a very short period of time.

1725
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: And you know that they've had meetings and they've.

1726
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: Laid out preliminary plans, and they probably have contingency plans

1727
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: laid out too. But that's why I followed up with

1728
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: him on that one answer he was giving us about well,

1729
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: you might have a guy that says, well, I want

1730
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: to wait and my agent wants to see what he

1731
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: can get on the market, and it's like, you may

1732
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 2: have had this plan lined up to give player X

1733
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: this level of a contract, and now he's like, well,

1734
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: hold on a second, I want to see who I

1735
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: can get in the market, And now you're like, well, heck,

1736
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: we may have to pivot off this guy and try

1737
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: to find a comparable player in the free agent market

1738
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: if he's going to go into the market himself, because

1739
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: we don't know if we're going to get him back.

1740
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: And that's part of the shifting and morphing and changing

1741
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: of the offseason plan that is happening on a daily basis,

1742
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 2: basically from now until the bell rings on March thirteenth,

1743
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: when you can start signing people.

1744
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 4: And I think about what you just said as it

1745
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 4: relates to the defensive line position group, knowing that only

1746
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 4: four defensive I'm in are under contract for the twenty

1747
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: twenty four season out of the twelve that played on

1748
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 4: the roster this past season, and how that works with Okay,

1749
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna allocate X to maybe this player, and we

1750
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: need to budget X for these couple of spots, whether

1751
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: it's edge rushers or defensive tackles, and kind of how

1752
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 4: you work to fit those puzzle pieces together within one

1753
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 4: position group, because I would imagine the more free agents

1754
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 4: you have at one position group, the harder that gets.

1755
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,959
Speaker 3: Some of the position groups.

1756
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 4: Where maybe you just have one or two guys you

1757
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 4: have to fill spots for, not as hard as a

1758
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 4: position group where you might have to bring on multiple

1759
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: free agents.

1760
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing too that we have to mention, Like,

1761
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: we asked Brandon to kind of follow up on what

1762
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: he talked about at his season rap up press conference

1763
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: with you know, the roster is probably going to have

1764
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: to get younger, and we kind of just asked him

1765
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: to elaborate a little bit more on that, and I

1766
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: thought he did and pretty much confirmed, yes, we have

1767
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: to get younger. Well, now look at the free agents

1768
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: on the defensive line for the Bills. Daikwon Jones over

1769
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: thirty years old, Jordan Phillips over thirty years old, Shaq

1770
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: Lawson over thirty years old, lynn Val Joseph over thirty

1771
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: years old. I mean, more than half of that group

1772
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: is on the backside of their career in a on

1773
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 2: a team that wants to get younger. So not only

1774
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: do you have holes to fill, you're probably filling the

1775
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 2: majority of those with younger players. So now it becomes

1776
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: a task of not only do we have to fill

1777
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 2: the holes, we got to fill them with new people

1778
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 2: at least. Like I'm just looking at it this way, Maddie,

1779
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: in all likelihood, if you fill all eight spots with

1780
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: all of the avenues you can pursue in free agency

1781
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: to and talent, I'm of the belief that at least

1782
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: four of those eight spots are going to be new

1783
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: players to the Bills roster.

1784
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least or maybe more.

1785
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, a number like eight guys who are set to

1786
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 4: become free agents that were on the roster this past season. Yeah,

1787
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a big number of new faces in

1788
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 4: this building. And we talk about I want to relate

1789
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 4: this back to the draft too, and what we heard

1790
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 4: from Daniel Daniel Jeremiah.

1791
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 3: With the defensive line.

1792
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: Class and maybe lack thereof of top tier top and

1793
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 4: talent that the Bills could get within the first or

1794
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 4: second round, it seems like based on what Daniel Daniel

1795
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 4: Jeremiah said, is that there is quite a big drop

1796
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 4: off once you get to the middle half of the

1797
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 4: second round, third round, whatever you want to call that,

1798
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: and that if there is somebody available in the first

1799
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 4: round that's a talented edge US rusher or defensive tackle

1800
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 4: that the Bills have sticking out there on the board,

1801
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 4: maybe that's an option that they go after knowing what

1802
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 4: the defensive line position commands on the free agent mark,

1803
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 4: knowing if you want to bring day Kwon Jones back,

1804
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 4: he's going to demand some money and how how much

1805
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 4: else how much other money do you have to allocate

1806
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 4: to the defensive line room if you're bringing a player

1807
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 4: like Daikwan Jones back, but you also want to invest

1808
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 4: in your future at that position.

1809
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and then look, we'll have a better

1810
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: picture as to what the demands and the holes that

1811
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: remain on the defensive line are when we get to

1812
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: the draft, because you'll already be a month and a

1813
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: half into free agency.

1814
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: So the picture will be clearer.

1815
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: Not to say that if they get to the draft

1816
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 2: and there's still three holes on the defensive line, that

1817
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: they're going to draft three defensive lineman because last year

1818
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 2: we saw Brandon Bean sign defensive tackle Poona Ford and

1819
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: defensive end Leonard Floyd in May and June. So it's

1820
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: not like the draft's the only other play, but we

1821
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: got to get three guys.

1822
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way.

1823
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: But knowing how Brandon Bean has orchestrated the offseason with

1824
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: his personnel department, I think we can expect at least

1825
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 2: two to three holes being filled in the free agent

1826
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: market prior to the draft, probably another two or three

1827
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: in the draft, and then maybe another two maybe three

1828
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: after the draft, and you know what is left on

1829
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: the market. I think might say a lot about how

1830
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: aggressive they are in the draft about what defensive line

1831
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 2: talent they acquire. I think what the board tells them

1832
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 2: to do is also going to largely weigh into that.

1833
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: But just looking at the age of Buffalo's defensive linemen

1834
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: that are free agents, I can't see more than four

1835
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 2: of them coming back.

1836
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 1: I would.

1837
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 2: I might even say as many as five might be

1838
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: out the door and not returning.

1839
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd is going to be too expensive, He's gone.

1840
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: I think that's a foregone conclusion. All you need is

1841
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: one team to really like aj Epanessa and the season

1842
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: he put together, no I know, and he becomes too

1843
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: costly to come back, and that's a twenty six year

1844
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 2: old player who you'd like to get back in the fold,

1845
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, he might be too costly. And then you

1846
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: have all the thirty plus year old guys that I

1847
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: laid out already. I think Tim Settle is still under

1848
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: but he's a role player. He's not a frontline, starring player.

1849
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 2: So yes, he might be affordable, but he might not

1850
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 2: be filling the hole that you need him to fill.

1851
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of there's a lot of decisions

1852
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: to be made at this position, not only because of

1853
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: the holes that you have, but because of the age

1854
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: of some of the players that could be walking out

1855
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: the door. So now you've got to get fresh new

1856
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: bodies in here. And then after that, Maddie, even if

1857
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: you do fill all the holes, then it's on the

1858
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: coaching staff to make it all fit together and work

1859
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: in similar fashion to what's been so successful for them

1860
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 2: in years past.

1861
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 4: And we talked to some scouts last night and we

1862
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 4: heard them explain that with Terrell Bernard, it was on

1863
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 4: the scouting department to find a pick that worked for

1864
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 4: the Bills at that linebacker spot and believe in somebody,

1865
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 4: and then you get into the building, and you coach

1866
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 4: that player to play better than what you saw of

1867
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 4: him during college football during his college football days. And

1868
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: they were able to do that with Terrell Bernard. And

1869
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 4: he is such a young player and has so much

1870
01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 4: in front of him, and I think has a really

1871
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 4: high ceiling with where he can get to and with

1872
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: what he's already shown us.

1873
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean, this kid is so talented.

1874
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 4: Maybe they can do that with a younger defensive lineman

1875
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 4: in this year's draft class or whoever they decide to

1876
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 4: go after, with a few of those first picks, and

1877
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 4: then with defensive linemen and free agency, maybe the Bills

1878
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: will also get lucky like they did with Leonard Floyd.

1879
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 4: They signed him so late. Yes, he was out there,

1880
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,839
Speaker 4: sticking out there. And maybe there's a couple of defensive

1881
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 4: linemen where they're still on the market in May and in.

1882
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: June, and the Bills would be would probably be more

1883
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: inclined to wait and sign people like that in May

1884
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: and June because of the compensatory pick formula that also

1885
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: comes into play as well. If you lose aj Epanessa

1886
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: to a big contract to another team, you lose Leonard

1887
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: Floyd to a big contract to another team, just like

1888
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: they lost Tremaine Edmonds to a giant contract. Now you

1889
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to gain compensatory picks the following year

1890
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 2: if you wait on signing guys in the early free

1891
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: agency period, because once you get to the draft, the

1892
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 2: equation of free agents that you sign no longer applies.

1893
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: You're outside that window that they assess, hey, did you

1894
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: have a net loss of free agent's last spring? And

1895
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: if you get past that point and then you sign people,

1896
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: they don't count towards your tally anymore. So they signed

1897
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: Puna Ford and Leonard Floyd last year, and they didn't

1898
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 2: count towards Buffalo's free agent pluses and minuses, and because

1899
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: of that, Buffalo had a net loss of free agents

1900
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 2: and they lost a free agent to a high priced contract.

1901
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,480
Speaker 2: So if Floyd and Eppenesse had offered big time contracts,

1902
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: that's also an opportunity for Buffalo to gain more compensatory

1903
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: picks the following year, as we're expecting them to do

1904
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: this year, because the general consensus is the Bills are

1905
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: going to get a third round draft choice for the

1906
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: loss of Tremain Edmunds last year with that giant contract

1907
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 2: that he signed in Chicago, So that's you know, that's

1908
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 2: a lesser consideration right now. Bigger fish to fry right

1909
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: now as far as navigating, you know, getting into cap

1910
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: compliance and things of that nature. The other position that

1911
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about was what both

1912
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean and Daniel Jeremiah said about the safety position.

1913
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: It looks like at safety, you're really only gonna find

1914
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: backup caliber special teams, like safety talent in the draft

1915
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 2: that can help you in those capacities in year one

1916
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: backup player special teams. So that means Buffalo is gonna

1917
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: have to find they're potentially two new starting safeties depending

1918
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: on what happens with Jordan Poyer and his cap figure

1919
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 2: in free agency, as you asked him, a ton of

1920
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: talent in the safety market. So maybe it doesn't come

1921
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 2: at a steep price, but it sounds like that's where

1922
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: they're going to have to find the replacements.

1923
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're looking for somebody to step into a

1924
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 4: starting role right away, knowing that there's quite a few

1925
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 4: free agents at that safety position, Taylor Rapp, Micah Hyde

1926
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 4: cam Lu to name a few players. You want somebody

1927
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 4: who's gonna be able to fit into this defense and

1928
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 4: play right away. And if you can't find that through

1929
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 4: the draft, knowing that Daniel Jeremiah said there is not

1930
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 4: one safety on his top fifty board, the Bills may

1931
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 4: have to just go after that in free agency and

1932
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 4: maybe be willing to pay a little bit more than

1933
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 4: they wanted to right.

1934
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 2: And you would hope, you would hope with so many

1935
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: starters in free agency, you don't have to pay top dollar,

1936
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: so you can you can hopefully find a good value there.

1937
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: That's kinda that's got to be the plan. You got

1938
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: to You gotta be looking for value no matter where

1939
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 2: you're looking, because Brandon's not gonna have a ton of

1940
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: money to spend.

1941
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: He's got a he's.

1942
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to say bargain bin because that's kind

1943
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: of disrespectful to the player. But you got to find

1944
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: supreme value on the free agent market this year, maybe

1945
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: more than they ever have before.

1946
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 4: And he said, hey, we're already talking to guys about

1947
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 4: about the number with with the what the cap number

1948
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 4: is this year two fifty five point four and talking

1949
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 4: to guys about what can we do here?

1950
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: Another big show coming your way tomorrow.

1951
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: We've got guests galore, and uh, we'll be diving into

1952
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: the draft analysis again.

1953
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Speaker 1: We got Dane Brugler from The Athletic and Matt Miller

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Speaker 1: from ESPN. We'll see it one m