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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it's Wednesday, and that means we are here

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Speaker 2: recapping our old shows with all new commentary, updates and insights.

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Speaker 1: Today we're looking back on episode eighty six, which we

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Speaker 1: named Live at the en More Theater.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and we named it that because we are

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Speaker 2: in Sydney, Australia. This was one of the greatest live

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Speaker 2: shows we have ever done. I'm just going to say it.

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Speaker 2: The episode originally came out September fourteenth, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's listen to the intro of episode eighty six.

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Speaker 1: What's up Sydney. We finally got that right, We finally

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Speaker 1: did it right. Tonight's to night.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, guys, DM, what's up? What's been up with

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Speaker 2: you guys lately?

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Speaker 1: What's your weekend?

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Speaker 2: How's things been going with you? Like, Oh, it's so

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Speaker 2: exciting to be here.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had every single one of your triggers

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Speaker 1: triggered every one time? Cuz I have.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start this show by saying, this is my

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Speaker 2: favorite murdering a true crime podcast. That's that's also a

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Speaker 2: comedy broadcast, which is a difficult and complex combination.

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Speaker 1: And they're they're in there, we together.

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Speaker 2: And you simply must trust us that we're good people.

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Speaker 2: That's just for the newbies. That's just for the people

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Speaker 2: who are forced here or who saw something in the

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Speaker 2: newspaper and they were like, let's roll the dice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love podcasts, this American Life. Love that podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to this one.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mark Maren, that's oh all right, I'll

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Speaker 2: go to a pot live podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's see what happens. Uh So we we wanted

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Speaker 1: to tell you guys what happened last night, just to

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Speaker 1: kind of address.

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Speaker 2: It, because at this point the rumors are so insane.

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Speaker 2: It's a little it's a little bit crazy. Georgia looked

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Speaker 2: on the way over here. Georgia looked her phone and

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Speaker 2: she goes, oh, now they're saying I walked off stage.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, hold on, what is happening.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I wanted to, never wanted to more my life.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We started the show by talking about plucking chin hairs as.

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Speaker 2: You do, I mean, who doesn't do that?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: Comedy, True crime, Comedy Live podcast, and then.

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Speaker 1: Karen did a great lighthearted murder that's how I do

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Speaker 1: it such a thing, and then I didn't. I was

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Speaker 1: doing this thing where like I did I did Jill

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Speaker 1: mar the night before. Yep, that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well, this time I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go in a different direction.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let me just stop you by saying that anyone again?

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Speaker 1: Who am be?

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Speaker 2: New? She did Jill mart And when we did our

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Speaker 2: meet and greet, which is where we get a lot

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Speaker 2: of feedback, and we love to hear feedback and people

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Speaker 2: tell us what they think, every single person was like,

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Speaker 2: I was so scared that you were doing that, and

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Speaker 2: you did it great, And it's obviously no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's okay.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like, the one thing we talk about

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Speaker 1: all the time is that we're here to represent and

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Speaker 1: support the victims. A comedy is not around that. So

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Speaker 1: I think I'm okay with the way I did. But

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Speaker 1: then I I touched a Nerve's the next last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was somebody in the audience who clearly

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Speaker 2: was having Where's Out for the weekend and made a

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Speaker 2: bad entertainment choice, you know what.

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Speaker 1: To know what I had that happened some fucking sweet

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Speaker 1: hardcore murdering. I was like, fuck, I have to work tonight,

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Speaker 1: Uncle Dave, listen, Aunt.

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Speaker 2: Julie to tickets.

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Speaker 1: You guys love horror movies, You're really a horror movies.

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Speaker 1: You guys love comedy. I feel like you might enjoy

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Speaker 1: this thing.

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Speaker 2: And that Murderina was wrong, Yeah, deeply wrong. Yeah uh

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Speaker 2: really at the end of the day, what happened is

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Speaker 2: mean that's at the long and the short of it.

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Speaker 2: It's there's been There's been a lot of words used

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Speaker 1: And if you can imagine, all these Murderinos were like

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Speaker 2: Everyone was like what the fuck for a while, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and and he It seemed like it went on for

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Speaker 1: I did start crying that art is true.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was upsetting because he was yelling at her.

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Speaker 2: And also it was this moment where, like it happens

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Speaker 2: all the time in this podcast, we were talking about

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Speaker 2: something incredibly sensitive and then one of us fucks up

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Speaker 2: they interpreted that as us laughing at someone's death, which

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Speaker 2: makes sense logistically, you know what I mean. It's like

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Speaker 2: But it also was not what was happening in the

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Speaker 1: And then Karen, fuck I just looked at her and

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Speaker 1: I was like, what you fucking like a champ took

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Speaker 1: it was so nice. It meant so much to me. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm so fucking happy you're on

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Speaker 2: It's me and I'm not pandering.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm just Pandora.

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Speaker 2: I trained at the Improv Olympic for twenty two years now,

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: Just like, you know what in my for me, I've

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Thanksgiving again. I was just like,

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Speaker 1: Anger. No, I'm not like that.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not her experience.

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Speaker 1: No. But yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: There's also people who were like, don't quit the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We're like, are you I just fucking quit my job.

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Speaker 1: I have to do this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I've I've painted myself into a corner.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, We're never gonna post that episode. I think we

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Yeah, so I don't here that's ever gonna happen

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Speaker 2: out of context. People will be like, that was a

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Speaker 2: weird speech. That was a weird, quiet speech about how

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Speaker 2: hard life can be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just a magical select moment for us.

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Speaker 2: And the funniest part o the VIP, Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: there were people who would come up and be like,

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Speaker 2: who already like it was hard for me to come here.

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Speaker 1: And then the man started yelling. They were like, then

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Speaker 1: then you guys have to, okay, listen, don't tell anyone

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Speaker 1: we told you this. Don't tell me the retarde to this.

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Speaker 1: But they said to us, please don't tell Stidney about.

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Speaker 2: So they were really I mean, but here's the thing,

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Speaker 2: so And then we had people part of what Georgia's

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Speaker 2: Police Department and one of the women was like, my

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, then in dinged in my head,

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Speaker 2: I was like, hey, there was a cop here last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little badge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But then Australia, you guys responded in the fucking

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Speaker 1: coolest way. That makes the coolest so fucking happy, and

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Speaker 1: you all get credit, you all get credit. We just

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Speaker 2: And but what you want to be at midnight? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dan We have their names, Nadan, Dean and Danica. They

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we had Stephen grab a still of

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you. We're fucking honored to have to

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Speaker 2: It's really what. We're gonna have a man come out

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Speaker 1: To it'll be Ben's. If it's Ben's, I can fucking

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Speaker 2: this is shite. He'll be like, oh, better raise money, give.

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Speaker 1: Us money, I think, can we say? Someone was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I hope they they thought the money was going to me.

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Speaker 2: Because it was like we we love George, we love

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Speaker 2: you Georgia. They must have just checked the website and

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Speaker 2: I hope she gives at least some of the money to.

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Speaker 1: The hurricane victims.

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Speaker 2: Were like, lady, lady.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what this guy did. He checked the

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Speaker 2: Shite, and look, sometimes we are completely shite I.

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Speaker 1: Was so I was so distracted I never plucked the

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Speaker 1: hair still there. Yeah, I'm going to keep it as

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Speaker 2: And grow it so long. Speaking of facial hair, Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you want to see your friend Steven?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, friend Stephen, Stephen, I just want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're always kidding when we're meine. Did you guys

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Speaker 2: Right? It's fun to yell at Stephen, but Stephen does

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Speaker 2: Instead, bring us money for the hurricane straight into Georgia's

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Speaker 2: Levels?

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Speaker 2: They're like, we had nothing to do with it. How

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Speaker 2: It's just they know me so well. It's so it's

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Speaker 1: It totally burst our bubble. Yeah, but I don't want

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we can say it's it was Denisa and

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Speaker 2: what this this community has been doing stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: We have a larger contingency of listeners than other podcasts

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, shut the fuck. No, I'm just kidding. No,

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Speaker 1: Epileptic Murderina's Unite. We support you.

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Speaker 2: Fainters and barfers, get up here, this is your podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, should we get into it, Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: This first story is Georgia's story about Aunt Sally Caroline Girls.

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Speaker 1: So which is what's really fun? After all that I have,

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Speaker 1: I get to go first tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so right back on. They love it, they want it.

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Speaker 2: They love it and want it.

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Speaker 1: I found an old one, so that nobody here remembers

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Speaker 1: it happened to. You don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Anything could happen. We're in a foreign country. Anything could happen.

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Speaker 1: It's true, it's true.

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Speaker 2: Also, these chairs are going down. I can tell.

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Speaker 2: I think we are?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, okay, yeah, this is the You know

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, because you don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Carolyn Girls born in eighteen eighty eight. So nobody

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Speaker 1: bunch of kids. In nineteen forty eight, Carolyn inherited and

444
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: moved into her father's home in Bladesville. Thank you, thank you.

445
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm like a kidner gardener and wants a plasma.

446
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: Peepees or whatever.

447
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: She's known as Anti Carrie by her extensive family. She's

448
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: a sure okay, here's howthing fucking I'll tell.

449
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: You later, okay, like backstage.

450
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an older one. She's an old woman because

451
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: sixty eight is old. Then, actually, let's have a photo

452
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: of her, because she looks this is her, I know,

453
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: kitty right, fun looks like your grandma.

454
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: She looks. God, she has great teeth, she really does,

455
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: really nice teeth.

456
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: Nice teeth. She looks like she could be my mom's mom,

457
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: and my mom is older than her. Because like, back then,

458
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: it was like you're done, yeah, like fifty.

459
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Back then it was like you're seventeen, you have your

460
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: six children, yeah, and then you immediately look like that.

461
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: There was no preventative creams back then.

462
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: Cold cream all over the place. Yeah, okay, a lot

463
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: of dust. So she frequently visited her in laws and friends,

464
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: making tea cakes and biscuits for them. Uh oh, no,

465
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: don't say uh uh oh. Remember the poisoner at the

466
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: top of this thing. Guess who it is.

467
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: It's great teeth, Johnson bug.

468
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh you know what her last name is Grills. She's

469
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: got a great grill. Thank you.

470
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: This is the joy of comedy. This is what it

471
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: can be like. Wait a second, is it grills like

472
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: bear grills? The guy that fucking climbs all over the place,

473
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: No survive.

474
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: No, why isn't he a why? Yeah, he is a grill,

475
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: like straight up grill.

476
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh great, legit grill?

477
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no fucking round. Yeah. In nineteen forty seven, her

478
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: eighty seven year old stepmother, Christine Mickelson, becomes ill with

479
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: symptoms of hair loss, nervous disorders, progressive liness, and lost

480
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: the speech and eventually dies under Aunt Carrie's care. Throughout

481
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: nineteen forty one and forty two, various family members become ill,

482
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: including a bunch of family members, but all survive. Then,

483
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: in January nineteen forty eight, a relation of her husband,

484
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Angela Thomas, also becomes ill and dies of the same symptoms,

485
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: followed by her husband's brother in law. So, I guess's

486
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: her brother in law?

487
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it would be her brother. Her husband's brother

488
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: in law is her brother?

489
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: No? Could it could be her husband's sisters sister's husband

490
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: right No, Okay, listen, nobody remembers us, so we're changing it. Yeah,

491
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: So whatever we want.

492
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: If you care, go on to ancestry dot com and

493
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: figure it out yourself.

494
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: Okay. John Lundberg he dies in late forty eight, and

495
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: one of her stepmother's friends and sister in law, I'm

496
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: not going to go there, Mary Ann Nicholson dies the

497
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: following year, but presumably Auntie Carrie goes on making cakes,

498
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: Auntie and shit until I wrote that cakes and tangent

499
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: until September nineteen fifty two. Yvonne Fletcher, a housewife and

500
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: mother of two from the Inner City, Inner sub Sydney

501
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: suburb of Newton, is charge new Town, new Town.

502
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: It's Newton.

503
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: We don't have him.

504
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: Can't turn into a call in response of town names.

505
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: It's insane. Cat cheer was insane.

506
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Can I remind everyone that I got yelled at last

507
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: night and I cried, So I'm gonna be on edge

508
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, and that includes pronouncing shit wrong. Let's

509
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: just pretend that that's why I'm doing that.

510
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: That's why they were like a fucking football stadium just

511
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: now cheering for that correct town name pronunciation.

512
00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I made peep in the potty. We supplor cakes and cheese.

513
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: New Town, you know, yep every time. Now was charged

514
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: and tried for the murders of Boat. So this chick

515
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: fucking turns out kills both of her husbands with this

516
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: poison called thallium. So it's a rat bait poison because

517
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: rats were fucking everywhere in Sydney after World War two.

518
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: They were one point two million rats just in Sydney,

519
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: woo and from and.

520
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: So give it up for red. And then.

521
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: So there was this rat bait and there was like

522
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: put it in put it in bread and sprinkle it

523
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: around your house and you'll kill.

524
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: Rats like babies are crying.

525
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but it was this crazy poison and people

526
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: were like, oh, you can buy it at the store.

527
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm pissed at my two husbands. And then they say

528
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: that at least fifty five people were poisoned by thalli,

529
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: kind of which died as far as they know, because

530
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: they weren't doing toxicology shit back then, right, because it

531
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: was almost untraceable you mean by her no, no, no, no,

532
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: like in general. And so this one case got really

533
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: big and m mmmm and then okay, okay, and it

534
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: caused symptoms or fallI and poisoning were loss of hair,

535
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: nervous disorders, progressive blindness, lost of speech, organ failure, and

536
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: eventual death. Remember that from the beginning, Yes, oh my god,

537
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: are you putting it together?

538
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: I kind of am. It feels like someone's a poisoner.

539
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: I think we have another photo just for the fuck

540
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: of it. Let's see. That's when she got arrested. Never

541
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: mind spoiler alert, that's that time she.

542
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: Put ah, look at that stressed Stephen.

543
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you to put that up.

544
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: Wait was that hurt?

545
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

546
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: That was a good dress. I'm sorry.

547
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: Don't be sorry, be happy. Okay. Because of the widespread

548
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: media coverage, so this chick kills a bunch of people,

549
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: it gets all over the papers. A dude named John Downey,

550
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: who's related to Aunt our friend Aunt Carrie, read the

551
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: story in a newspaper and was like, hmm, those sound

552
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: like really familiar symptoms that I've had myself when I

553
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: hung out and ate Anti Carrey's cakes and shit. Uh

554
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: oh and his his aunt or something is a long

555
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: time ago. Evelyn Lundberg also had all these symptoms and

556
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: she had even gone blind. Wow.

557
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: So but she didn't die.

558
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: No, So on May eleventh, that's my birthday. Oh shit,

559
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: that's right, that's okay. We always have to do that,

560
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: even in the middle of them. Not this, but like

561
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: a like a word.

562
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: So when I said, Stephen, some horrible thing that had

563
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: a date on it the other day, it was like,

564
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: and this is the day this person was decapitate, and

565
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: he was like, my birthday.

566
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: You just can't help yourself.

567
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: You know, they got decaptated eighty eight years ago on

568
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: my birthday.

569
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what I was doing that day. Okay,

570
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: So he goes over to Aunt Carrie's house and is

571
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: like super suspicious of her. She's bringing tea and cakes

572
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: and stuff out, and he sees her takes something out

573
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: of her pocket and put it in the tea. So

574
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: he becomes a street magician and switches around switch witch

575
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: witch which which takes the tea that he saw her lace,

576
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: pours it in what I'm assuming is a bottle I

577
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: don't know, and fucking takes it home with him, brings

578
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: it to the police and they test it. Whoa vallely poison,

579
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: isn't it? Shocker? Shocking? Nobody saw that one coming. So

580
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: then they also take her beautiful house dress and there's

581
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: they find traces of famium in the pockets.

582
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: Oh so fucket, little belly.

583
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't ruin house stresses for us, please, sole have

584
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: you can put so much shit in house dress? Oh

585
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: my god. A corner's inquest a bunch of witnesses recalled

586
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: her bringing them drinks and how eager she was to

587
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: help preparing food and I'll do it.

588
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: I got it, I got it. I want to kill everybody.

589
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to help in the kitchen. It's the thing

590
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: you offer and hope people are like no, no, I

591
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, so you should be suspicious to someone

592
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: who is like, you know, it's like, no, you don't.

593
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: The game's on? What are you doing?

594
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Calm down, go eat? Uh what do they have?

595
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: They'll eat? Dip? Okay. So, at sixty three years old,

596
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: she's arrested in charge with the attempted murder of her

597
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: sister in law who's now blind and her daughter her

598
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: the sister in law's daughter niece both huh, thank you.

599
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm big picturing. You're in the details and I'm

600
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: out here watching all of it.

601
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: You didn't read eighteen articles and copy of sure did it?

602
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: No?

603
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: This is all new to me.

604
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah hmm okay. So she's arrested and they all investigators

605
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: also exhumed a bunch of those bodies from before, and

606
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: they found traces of thallium in two of them, and

607
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: the others had been cremated so they couldn't be tested.

608
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: So the corner found her, uh responsible for several deaths.

609
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: Can they do that that's how they used to do.

610
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: It, I think back then. Okay, yeah, she okay, there's

611
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: a book never mind she I know, I'm not gonna

612
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: remember it. It's called the Dictionary the Bible.

613
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 2: What's that book?

614
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: Uh?

615
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Did Vinci code?

616
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: That's it?

617
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: That's there, it is.

618
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: She's charged with the murders and of Mary Michelson who

619
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: was sixty, Christina Michelson, who was eighty seven, and Angelina Thompson,

620
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: who was eighty four, and at her trial she professed

621
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: her innocence. She said police had pressured her relatives to

622
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: convict her the ones that were still living, yeah, and

623
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: that she quote, helped to live, not to kill. Yeah. Yeah,

624
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: I helped people live. I didn't kill them. Yeah.

625
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: And yet they're dead.

626
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then she was laughing at half the trial.

627
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: She was just like a little nuts. Yeah.

628
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: She was excited to be out in her house dress.

629
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Sure. And in the end the cases are dropped and

630
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: she's only convicted on the attempted murder of missus Lendbergh

631
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: So the woman who went blind in October nineteen fifty three.

632
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: Because they could basically only do what deal with what

633
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: it was happening to the survivors.

634
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: I guess yes, yeah, I'm sorry.

635
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: What was the time for? Like, was it over years

636
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: that she was doing?

637
00:35:53,480 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: It started in nineteen forty something, say seven, let's go seven.

638
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: I think forty one is when it started. But somehow

639
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty three okay, and so another one in

640
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty three, Bob Lullam. He's an Australian rugby football

641
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: fucking player. But like Star, I was waving my arms

642
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: in the air. How did you get that referee?

643
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: You know?

644
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: No, like big this is big time, This is big

645
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: timer Star.

646
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Okay, now I know.

647
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just.

648
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Have to say this if just as a sidebar. The

649
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: first day we got here, I turned the TV on

650
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: in my hotel room and there was a rugby game.

651
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah have you ever seen that shit?

652
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: You guys, Oh my god.

653
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they pulled each other, big.

654
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Boys just pulling on each other.

655
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

656
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, hot stups. Mute that shit keeping on in the background.

657
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: That's nice. Congratulate sense you gets that all the time.

658
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: I'd never, I had never. I didn't realize I was

659
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: such a fan.

660
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: See it scared me, it did, Yeah, why because I'm

661
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: scared of everything everything?

662
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: How about a nice big thigh.

663
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: I know what that mine was kyles and thighs. So

664
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: much sweat.

665
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: That's bad for you.

666
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Sweat and thighs not my thing. Yes, yes, and yes,

667
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: it's like we're two different people.

668
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: I mean we seem to be different.

669
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: Okay. So this dude's mother in law tried to poison

670
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: who he was having a sexual relationship with.

671
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: What reclarify this.

672
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: The mother in law is correct in this part. His

673
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: wife's hot mom. I wish I didn't. No, don't look

674
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: over there. His wife's hot mom and he were hooking up?

675
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: What and she tried to poison him. She was like,

676
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: you're cheating on my daughter. I'm putting poison you. I'm

677
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: making this part up. I'm guessing that's what the thing is. Yeah,

678
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: he was like, but also it's with me. I don't

679
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: know the logic here. Shit, yeah, everything, I mean thighs,

680
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: that's my present. He lives and uh soon afterwards Thallian

681
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: this band from sale. So the jury deliberated for our aunt,

682
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: our aunt over here. She sentenced to death and later

683
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: commuted to life in prison. She becomes known as Aunt

684
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Thali in prison Anti Thallly in prison. It sounds like,

685
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: like in a loving way. I think the other inmates

686
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: liked her.

687
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: It also sounds like they're trying to say Aunt Sally,

688
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: but they have a lisp, or they're a five year

689
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: old child in prison.

690
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: She in nineteen sixty. She died in of you know

691
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: old stuff, yep, less than seven years after her trial.

692
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: In the end, nobody fucking knows her motives, and people

693
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: thought it was revenge or envy or anger. And the

694
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: dude said seven people were recipients of charity and kindness

695
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: from Aunt Carrie and they all died or suffered the

696
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: nasty effects of thallium poisoning. She had maybe financial benefitsu

697
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: to games, sometimes none, and no one ever fucking figured

698
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: out her motives. Wow, so that's our friend Aunt Sali.

699
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Aunt fallI Aunt Sally.

700
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: Thanks, yah man, I gotta get my allergies taken care of.

701
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: This sound guy almost shot his pants just now, Stephen,

702
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: Steve and you broke the mic. Well that was crazy. Okay,

703
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: we're back. Are there updates for this story?

704
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: There are no updates? And you know what else, Let's

705
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: just fucking get into your epic classic. This is a classic.

706
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: And then my favorite murder Marvel universe.

707
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: I was so afraid you had already found this story

708
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: and that you would like that. Basically, I was waiting

709
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: for when you were doing your story, hoping to god

710
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: it wasn't this story.

711
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: Just like then. And then they found and then Aunt

712
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Sally found a shark. Oh that's right, an arm by

713
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: a shark. Okay, this is Karen's story of the shark

714
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: arm murder.

715
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: Mine is similarly old and similarly crazy. I'm gonna do

716
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: the shark arm murders.

717
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was so bummed today when I text Steven, hey,

718
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: can I do the shark arm murders? Get out of

719
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: town and it's off limits? Sorry, And when you see

720
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: that when you're like, yes, such a bummer. Yeah, because

721
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: we have to check with him to make sure the

722
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: other one isn't doing it, because we don't know what

723
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: murders we're doing, except for tonight, when I know what

724
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Karen's doing. Uh.

725
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: Well, it also the car. She goes, you're doing my

726
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: backup murder, just like it's my front up murder.

727
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: Girl.

728
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: You just make a list of twenty murders, you're like, sorry,

729
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: that's mine. You took it, that's mine. Well, this one

730
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: is I have to say, I think of all the

731
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: murders I've ever read or done, it just has so

732
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: much shit going on. That's so uh, it's it's beyond

733
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: And yet.

734
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I actually I didn't. I just saw a shark arm

735
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: murder and I was like, com I do that, and

736
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: so I don't know a lot about it.

737
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, you just looked at the title.

738
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna sit back then.

739
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: That wouldn't be if it do it. Oh, I'm gonna

740
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: sit back now and then tip it this way and

741
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: then fall, flatten it down, roll yourself up in the rug.

742
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: It's really funny because this somewhere along the line, this

743
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: rug got put into our writers, like this is the

744
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: stage design for us, and that means that everywhere we go,

745
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: somebody has to buy your rug. Yeah, and I'm like

746
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: carry it around all the time.

747
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: And someone gets like at the venue is like, well

748
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: we don't have a rug. We're really mad at us.

749
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're like, we're sorry about the rug, and we're

750
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: just like, you don't care a fuck about the rug.

751
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: Anyway.

752
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: That was just a bit of a behind the scenes

753
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: It's for you tonight, rug.

754
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: Tonight, you guys get to know all the shit.

755
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Tonight to night No okay, April seventeenth, Thank you, nineteen

756
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: thirty five. A fisherman hooks a small shark off of

757
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: what I'm imagining to be pronounced Coogie beach.

758
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: Now yeah, by the laughter, I'm gonna.

759
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: Guess no, Kuchi Kuci Beach. Could oh, I see this

760
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: is a sexy country Kucci beach.

761
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: All right, you guys said it.

762
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, listen to this shit. This fisherman catches

763
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: a shark right kind of small, and as he's reeling

764
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: the small shark in, a huge shark jumps up and

765
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: eats the smaller shark. And so then the fisherman holds

766
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: the huge shark in a lie.

767
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Wow, this is a ship that would go fucking viral

768
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: if he had.

769
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: A camera back then, can you imagine? Yes, that Kuci

770
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Beach fisherman would.

771
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Be Bill Janaire.

772
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd bet the YouTube convention. Yeah okay, so that alone,

773
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: we're in again. If this was a movie and that's

774
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: the first scene, you're not leaving that seat. You're like,

775
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: whoever this director is, you're my favorite artist of all time?

776
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: Like what that wouldn't happen? No?

777
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my God, I can't believe I caught it

778
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: such a small shark. Holy shit, jaws is here. So

779
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: what they do is, it's almost it's coming up on

780
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: Anzac Day and Anzac Day in Australia is it basically

781
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: is honors all the soldiers that went off to World

782
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: War One from New Zealand and from Australia, and it's

783
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: a big holiday. It's a big holiday weekend. So in

784
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty five, the Cuccie Aquarium baths. Oh do we

785
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: have the picture of the Cuchie Aquarium, Bass Steven, We do.

786
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: So they were like, uh, it was like a big

787
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: fancy complex.

788
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: Hold on, I see the word refreshments. Yeah, I see

789
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: the word rooms. I see the words boiling water.

790
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah. They had so much boiling water there.

791
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: What was awesome.

792
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: I wonder what the refreshments were.

793
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: It was boiling water. You could have all the boiling

794
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: water you could drink, but you had to drink it

795
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: right by the stove while it was boiling. So that's

796
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: why they weren't doing very good business. No, not really. Okay,

797
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: So there's ben shark attacks on all along the coast,

798
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: and in nineteenth thirty five, in the end of February.

799
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: In the beginning of March, three different young men were

800
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: killed by sharks on the coast, so they had people

801
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: out trying to catch and kill sharks all the time.

802
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: They were like, guys, just leave them alone, en, I mean,

803
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: number what what sharks?

804
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: Yes, stand fucking ocean. I love that where they're like,

805
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: we're going to take care of the shark problem by

806
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: killing three sharks or whatever. The like, there's so many more.

807
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you kind of it's it's a hard one

808
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: to solve when they've been around for eighty million years.

809
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: And they don't need to change because they're perfect fucking

810
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: mond killing machines, preaching.

811
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: They have so many rows of teeth. Oh my god.

812
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: Steve and I.

813
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: Started getting into this thing today. He started sending me

814
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: pictures the sharks with human teeth. Those it's the best

815
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: thing of all time because when they're a picture, No,

816
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so you don't have one, Stephen. I

817
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: mean you could just imagine it's like a jar, like

818
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: it's a shark picture coming at you with the crazy

819
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: fucking pointed teeth. Rose Rose Rose. But instead of that,

820
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: it's like Taylor Swift's teeth. So it's like it's like,

821
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, I need a se fucking hilarious. Anyway,

822
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: we had a great time guys. So anyway, the owner

823
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: of the Kouchi Baths was like, business is slow because

824
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: there's been these shark. But we've got this big holiday.

825
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: Weekend coming up.

826
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that big ass shark that that guy

827
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: just caught stick him in inside the baths. Can you

828
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: show the inside? It's still alive. So they decide they're

829
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: going to put it. So that's the baths. It's all

830
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: salt water. The salt water's coming in from the ocean,

831
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: and wh people go and swim in salt water. They

832
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: have the same thing in San Francisco's Sutro baths. It

833
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: was right on the coast. Okay, so steven. So they

834
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: take the shark and they put it in the in

835
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: the pool so people can come pay money and look

836
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: at the thing that's killing people in the water.

837
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: Can they say that with him?

838
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, people just stood around and see he's pretty big.

839
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: He's pretty big. He was what you like to say

840
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: down here, uh four meters long and one ton with

841
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: two ends in an e what a measurement.

842
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: So this poor shark is.

843
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: So at first when he's there, he's there for a week.

844
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: In the beginning, he's swimming around, everyone's freaking out, paying money,

845
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: and everything's working out great. But after a week the

846
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: shark starts acting strangely. It's moving slowly, it seems disoriented,

847
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: it seems sick. And then on Anzac Day, at four

848
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: point thirty pm, there's a small crowd in the baths

849
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: watching the shark, and the shark goes into a frenzy.

850
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: And then, as it's quoted here, I got all this

851
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: information from the Sydney Crime Museum website and the Dictionaryofsydney

852
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 2: dot org, and of course our Wikipedia starts to go crazy.

853
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: And then it starts vomiting copiously, is the quote. And

854
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: out of its stomach come a rat, a rat, a rat,

855
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: a bird, the remains of the smaller shark that he

856
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: ate earlier. And then a big surprise, a severed human arm.

857
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: So those people standing around at the Kuci bath, they're okay,

858
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: there's the arm.

859
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: No, yeah, but look at his dukes, his tattoos dukes

860
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: are up.

861
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. The arm has a very distinctive

862
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: tattoo of two boxers warming up together, two boxers boxing arm.

863
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: We need to each get that. Should we get it?

864
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: I get one boxer and you get the other? Or

865
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: should we get a tattoo of a severed arm with

866
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: boxers on the arm?

867
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: You know someone has that somewhere, I hope.

868
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: So Okay, So now I'm only halfway down the first

869
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 2: page of the story. That's all I'd like to say.

870
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: Right now, We've already got a double shark attack. And

871
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: then the shark barfs in front of everybody, a paying audience,

872
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: which I would have loved. Ann he barfs up a

873
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: human arm. So they call the police. They get the

874
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: arm out of the pool, they take it to inspect it,

875
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: and they notice that it is not the remnants of

876
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: the shark having eaten a person, because the arm has

877
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: been severed, not bitten.

878
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

879
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now they know something's going on and they

880
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: have to look into it.

881
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

882
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: So then they take the arm down to the police station.

883
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: I'm assuming I'm not. They fingerprint the hand of the arm.

884
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, huh, and.

885
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: They find out that it belongs to a Billiard former boxer,

886
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: Billiard's Tall owner and small time criminal Jim Smith, who

887
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: had been missing since April seventh?

888
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: How long was that.

889
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: To? April twenty fifth is Anzac Day? So you do

890
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: the math. I can't. Smith also lived in bal Main.

891
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: Hey, look, listen, look and listen and spell your cities correctly.

892
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: We just I think everywhere we go we're gonna have

893
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: to sit down with a native for like two hours

894
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: before we go out on stage.

895
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: Two minutes. Really, I mean, we don't need to take

896
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: that much time. We get to ask a person at

897
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: the front desk of the hotel.

898
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: Cut into that mascara time for just a little bit,

899
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: how do we say this word?

900
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: Okay, got it? And then we do things correctly at

901
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: the show.

902
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Listen, Jim Smith lived in that town with his wife

903
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: and child, and we're just going to start saying. That

904
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: town and his billiards hall, as they were back then,

905
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: was a quote seedy type of place where vice flourished.

906
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: Sounds fun, fun, lots of rugby. So Jim Smith was

907
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: also a police informant or what they call a fizz

908
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 2: gig or fizzer that's you, guys, is not precious like okay.

909
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: So they look into his situation and they find that

910
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: either it is Billiard's Hall or the other place he works,

911
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: which was called the Tattersalls Club. He had fell in

912
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: with a criminal, doing business with a criminal named Reginald Holmes.

913
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at Reginald Homes. He's a classic

914
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 2: kind of oh no, fuck, good day, good day to you, sir,

915
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: everything about him. Reginald has a whole box of pinky rings.

916
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: He keeps on his dresser.

917
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: Those teeth have to be put in every morning and

918
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: taken out every night, for sure, I don't kind of.

919
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes when he talks when he's drunk.

920
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: They come out like for sure though they just slip

921
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: down a tiny bit or at least.

922
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: The two front teeth, you know how they what do

923
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: they call this anyways? Clippers? Anyways?

924
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: Also, I think Stephen needs a pencil thin mustache. Oh

925
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: I think that needs to be the next direction he

926
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: takes it. Yeah, it's a fact, div okay, all right.

927
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: So that's Reginald Holmes. And he was from a family

928
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: of very successful boat makers and he was rich. He

929
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: had a big mansion at McMahon's point. His business was

930
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: in Lavender Bay, all your favorite places. And he has

931
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: a wife, two children. He's a regular at the Royal

932
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: Sydney yacht club. He's a pillar of the local Presbyterian church.

933
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: But he was also a smuggler and a fraudster as

934
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: as they call him. Yes, So what he would do

935
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: was he hired men to drive motor boats out to

936
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: sea that would pick up packages that sailors would throw

937
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: off of boats. And the packages would be full of cocaine,

938
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 2: or they would be full of cigarettes, or they would

939
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: be full of other things that you weren't allowed to have.

940
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: This some straight fucking boardwalk empire shit right here. Yes,

941
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: guys seeing this. This guy's nookie, He's watch it. It's

942
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: a fucking great show. Rich.

943
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: So Jim Smith drove one of those boats. So that's

944
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: how they all kind of know each other. And so

945
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: that's the cops are starting to find all of this out,

946
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: and they also find out that the two Redge and

947
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: Jim had started a racket with a convicted forger named

948
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Brady. Here's Patrick Brady. Not I wouldn't say as

949
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: much of a classy gent as Regg. Probably didn't go

950
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 2: to the yacht club that much. Just this is very superficial.

951
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: But old Pat Brady I think was like the whiskey

952
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: And though I think he was good at drawing because

953
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: he was a forger. Oh yeah, so he's probably smart,

954
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: real sharp, but I did he had a foul mouth,

955
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: all right. So the three of them are doing this

956
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: thing where Patrick Brady makes checks and he would get

957
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: they would get the name of Regge's fancy friends and

958
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: the people that he would make it's for, and they

959
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: would make fake checks and then I believe Jim Smith

960
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: would go cash those checks. And so they were in

961
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: that a ring of deceit and deception. I don't know

962
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, but apparently in the police find out

963
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: that Jim started blackmailing Reginald Holmes, and obviously was not

964
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: a good idea. So on April seventh, nineteen thirty five,

965
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: Jim Smith tells his wife that he's going to go fishing,

966
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: but instead he went and played cards with Patrick Brady

967
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 2: at the Cecil Hotel in Crenula. Fuck.

968
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: Yes, good job, Yes, good job, Thank you so much.

969
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: It felt good. It was like I just didn't think

970
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: about it. I just was like, I'll just say it.

971
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to overthink.

972
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: It, because you get we were starting to get like

973
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: scared of saying places.

974
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm scared of words and letters I.

975
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: Mean numbers stun't getting started.

976
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, maps, I can't even Okay, So he lies.

977
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: This is their love. He lies to his wife, says

978
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: he's going to go fishing, and said he goes and

979
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: play his cards. Wow, yeah, roll those dice.

980
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

981
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: So Patrick Brady had a rented cottage nearby where they

982
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: were drinking and playing cards, and that comes into play later.

983
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: So a taxi driver testifies that he picked up Patrick

984
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: Brady from Canola and he drove him to a Reginald

985
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: Holmes house at three Baby Street in mcmhon's point apparently

986
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: very nice area, and or was in nineteen thirty five,

987
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: and on the same day that Jim Smith went missing.

988
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: And the cab driver said, quote, he was disheveled. He

989
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: had a hand in his pocket that he wouldn't take out.

990
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: What do you think it's in there like an.

991
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: Arm because his hand was holding down an arm. No,

992
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what if he cut the bottom out

993
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: of his pocket, he was holding hands with the arm. No, No,

994
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 2: this is a criminal. You have to think like a criminal.

995
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

996
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: So, uh so Patrick Brady's arrested. So they get that testimony.

997
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: They arrest Patrick Brady on May sixteenth, they charge him

998
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: with the murder of Jim Smith. When the police bring

999
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: in Reginald Holmes to question him because they know he's

1000
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: in the circuit, reg says he's never met Patrick Bady.

1001
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: He doesn't know who they're talking about. So he ends up.

1002
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: They ends up letting him go there. They don't have

1003
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: anything to hold him on, so he leaves, goes home.

1004
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: Four days later, May twentieth, he goes into his boat

1005
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: shed and attempts suicide by shooting himself in the head

1006
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: with a thirty two. Reginald does, Reginald does, Richie, Richie

1007
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: rich Reginald. Okay, But here's the thing. The bullet flattened

1008
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: against the bone in his forehead, and so he was

1009
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: merely stunned.

1010
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: What did you make that up?

1011
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: I wish I did. It would be such good writing.

1012
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: Wow, that SuDS. That's some forehead.

1013
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like a fucking plate. Yeah, it's so

1014
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: he stuns himself by shooting himself in the fucking head.

1015
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: Stunning. It is stunning. It's stunning. It is stunning.

1016
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: He falls in he's like in his boat or whatever.

1017
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: He falls into the water. He falls into the water.

1018
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 2: The water revives him from a bullet to the head,

1019
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: and he comes to He gets into his boat and

1020
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: he's he starts driving around Sydney Harbor. He disrupts the

1021
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: ferry services. Do you think he's just screaming, Yeah, the

1022
00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: futs don't work on my head. You come at me,

1023
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: Your son's a bitch. Yeah, m hmmm. He does this

1024
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: for four hours. Shit, I mean, what would you do, right,

1025
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: come among us but.

1026
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: Lose their shit?

1027
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: Who among us is right? He finally takes out of

1028
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: the harbor, goes two kilometers out to see and he

1029
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: finally just stops. He allows the police to come on board,

1030
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: and he says, uh, to the police, Jimmy Smith is

1031
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: dead and there's only another left. If you leave me

1032
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: until tonight, I will finish him.

1033
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay. Cops are like sure.

1034
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: So it's like we suspect we're the police, and we

1035
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: suspect you of being involved in a murder. And then

1036
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: you're like, look, I don't know that guy, but if

1037
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: you just give me a day, I'll kill him. Yeah. Yeah, Rich,

1038
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: get your shit together.

1039
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you what'd you get the fucking concussion when

1040
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: you shot yourself in the head?

1041
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: What did that? Somehow affect you mentally that you shot

1042
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: yourself right in the fucking head. Okay, so there's an

1043
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: empty bottle of brandy in the boat. Of course could

1044
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: have had something to do with it, but also it

1045
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: could have been a bullet to the head.

1046
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1047
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: So Detective Sergeant Frank Matthews questions reg and he says, uh,

1048
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: he spills it. He says, Patrick Brady killed Jim Smith,

1049
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: dismembered his body, put it in a trunk, and threw

1050
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: it into Gunna Matta Bay.

1051
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: Fucking nobody knows what that is.

1052
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: I know, like, we don't have that here. You got

1053
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: that from the wrong article.

1054
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we go to a different bay.

1055
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: That's not our by, it's not our bae. They call

1056
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: that putting a body onto a trunk and throwing it

1057
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: into the bay. They call that a Sydney send off.

1058
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's not an accusation.

1059
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: I got it.

1060
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: I got it from Sydney dictionary.

1061
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: Dot org.

1062
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: Wow, not dot even dot com. That's a dot org.

1063
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: So they know what they're talking about.

1064
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: Slash aut slash e du Okay, so go on tell

1065
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: me this is fucking crazy. It's insane.

1066
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: So then he claimed that Patrick Brady came to his house,

1067
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: showed him Smith's severed arm.

1068
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: Me check your on, but I did back in the pocket.

1069
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: And then hmmm mmm, oh my god, and then threaten

1070
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: Holmes with murder if he did not immediately receive five

1071
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.

1072
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh hey, I have the earrings on two IoT?

1073
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: Go on, Hi, what does doesn't this story have that

1074
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: you're not completely focused on everything? I can't give you

1075
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: more than this. No story will ever be more interesting.

1076
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: And you're fucking touching your ear rings.

1077
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: Listen like cats span about three year old right here?

1078
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: Go on, I'm sorry. Oh no, no, no, I'm here

1079
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: with you. Please, I'm supporting you.

1080
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay. They they start up a Corner's in quest in

1081
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: my mind as well as yours. Okay, that's how I

1082
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: knew what one was. Okay. So the day before the

1083
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: Corner's in Quest, reg Holmes withdraws five hundred dollars from

1084
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: his bank account, and in late in the evening, he

1085
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: tells his wife that he has to go meet someone.

1086
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: They lie to their wives so much nineteen thirty five.

1087
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: Maybe if you were honest to your wife, you wouldn't.

1088
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: His wife's like, get out of here. His forehead is

1089
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: so hard yeah, you can go anywhere you want, get

1090
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: away from me. Yeah, lie to me, You're like a monster.

1091
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

1092
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: Early the next morning, which is the day of the Corners.

1093
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Speaker 2: In Quest June eleventh, ninety thirty five, reginal Holmes is

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01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: found dead in the driver's seat of his nash saidan

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: with three gunshot wounds to the chest. And he is

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01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: the inquest star witness. He wasn't invincible, he isn't well.

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01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: They didn't get him.

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01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: Hair right, but he was never offered police protection, so

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: he so but so, there's a guy named Alex castlesho

1100
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: was a professor and he wrote a book in nineteen

1101
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: ninety five called The Shark Are Murders, which everyone should read.

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01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: I definitely am going to just to see if it's

1103
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: actually real. It would be amazing if, like the Sydney

1104
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: Dictionary dot org was just a prank website and it's.

1105
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: Like and everyone here knew it.

1106
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

1107
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: It's like she fucking fell for it.

1108
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: That's my little brother, Are you stupid? But Professor Castle's

1109
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: believes that Reginald Holmes took out a contract on his

1110
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: own life because to spare his family the shame of

1111
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: him be going to jail. Oh that's his theory, okay,

1112
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: because the crime scene was made to appear like Holmes

1113
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: had committed suicide, except for there were three bullet wounds

1114
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: in his chest. Yeah, that would You'd have to really

1115
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 2: be fucking dedicated. Yeah, just one more.

1116
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, I've tried this before, didn't work. I'm

1117
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: going to triple down on this one.

1118
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: I'm just really going to focus and I'm going to

1119
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: just set my intention. I'm going to do some slight

1120
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: yogic breathing.

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01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

1122
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: The police have no doubt that he's been murdered, right

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01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: because uh tis well, yes, And but also they find

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01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: out that Jim Smith, they believe that Jim Smith was

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01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: killed by Patrick Brady on the orders of gangland figure

1126
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: Eddie Wyman, who was arrested while attempting to forge a

1127
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: check in nineteen thirty four the year before, and the

1128
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: reason he got arrested was because of a tip that

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: Jim Smith had given to the police because he was

1130
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: a Phis Gig informant. Fine, listen, that's fine.

1131
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: We're on the same wavelength.

1132
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: So when that happens and Jim Smith is exposed as

1133
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: a police informant, all of the Cee the Underworld, Billiard's

1134
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: Hall Dennison's know that he's a stool pigeon, and he

1135
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: basically has a target on his very soft forehead. Yes,

1136
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: right at the top of his arm. Okay, so here's

1137
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: the thing. The inquest starts on June twelfth, nineteen thirty five,

1138
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: but the case against Patrick Brady falls apart because there's

1139
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: no evidence. So Brady's lawyer of it actually claimed there

1140
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: was not enough substance to even begin the inquest. He

1141
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: argued that an arm quote does not constitute a body,

1142
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: which is you can't argue with that, it's just part,

1143
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: and that Jim Smith Minus's arm could very well be

1144
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: alive somewhere else, which is true totally.

1145
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: Ooh, what if he was like, oh, buddy, they're gonna

1146
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: come after me, take my arm. I'm gonna get the

1147
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. Yeah, you keep this, you show

1148
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: them my arm.

1149
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, then do a bunch of other crazy shit and

1150
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck you want. Do what you want,

1151
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 2: you'll take. I never like this tattoo anyway. It's kind

1152
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: it's too big, and it doesn't obvious. I'm not that

1153
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: into boxing. I was drunk and my friend made me

1154
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: do it. Yep, Brady is found guilty and acquitted. I

1155
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: mean sorry, not guilty and acquitted. That's the craziest part

1156
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: of the story. He's found guilty and immediately acquitted.

1157
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: So for the next.

1158
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: Thirty years, Patrick Brady steadfastly maintained he was in no

1159
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: way connected to the murder of Jim Smith. And he

1160
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: died in Sydney on April eighteenth, nineteen sixty five, at

1161
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: the age of seventy six. Reginald Holmes was cremated on

1162
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: June thirteenth, nineteen thirty five, and he left an estate

1163
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: valued it over thirty four thousand dollars in nineteen thirty five,

1164
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: which today is millions of dollars.

1165
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: That would be a millionaire back then. Yeah, not really,

1166
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: I'll just be like doing okay, just tell her how

1167
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: much money I know, right, well, I'm giving it all

1168
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: into a fucking hurricane. So what did I just threw

1169
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: it into a hurricane. I hope they're giving some money

1170
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: to the hurricane. Here, pay off the hurricane. Get out

1171
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: of hair.

1172
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: You guys may have already read this, but this is

1173
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: something like on our Twitter that everyone's retreating because you

1174
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: may have known this, but the State of Florida actually

1175
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: had to put out a warning to its citizens not

1176
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: to shoot at the hurricane.

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where we live. Can someone can we live here? Please?

1178
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: You can yell at us all you want, just as

1179
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: long as no one shoots us. And even though the

1180
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: Navy and the Air Force searched Port Hacking and Gunna

1181
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: Mada Bay, the thing you deny.

1182
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: Exists but I insist is real.

1183
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: They never found the rest of Jim Smith's body, so

1184
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: he could be but they don't know. That's it. That's

1185
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: the arm Shark Shark Arm murder.

1186
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: That crazy fun full of twists and turns, nothing too controversial,

1187
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,919
Speaker 1: you know for a true crime podcast.

1188
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah crazy, Okay.

1189
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: We're back. And any updates on this legendary story there are,

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01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: It's just.

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: This one, which is in twenty twenty, a book called

1192
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: Shark Arm, A colon, a shark, a tattooed arm, and

1193
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: Two Unsolved Murders was published about this case. The authors,

1194
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: Philip Rupe and Kevin Meager, are the people who put

1195
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: that book together. So if you want to know all

1196
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: the details and have it all laid out for you,

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: I would get Shark Arm colon a Shark a tattooed

1198
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: arm and two unsolved murders.

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01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: And then also the Dollip did that. I can't remember

1200
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: it was before or after us. It was before, Yeah,

1201
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: that's what I thought.

1202
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: I used to call Dave when they did good stories

1203
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, so, since that one was a murder,

1204
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to probably take salla or he would

1205
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: text me and be like, we just covered this, you

1206
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: have to do it.

1207
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's not fair. He's any sense to his notes.

1208
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: He's like, just read this.

1209
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: Gareth calls me and he's like, I don't have notes

1210
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: because I don't actually do any homework. God damn it.

1211
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: He really figured it out.

1212
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: Okay, should we get into the hometown. Yes, let's hear

1213
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: the hometown about John Wayne Glover the Granny Killer. Do

1214
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: we should we?

1215
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1216
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: We can we.

1217
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna do at home. Let's do some hometowns.

1218
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: But take a bow.

1219
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: What if I just threw up immediately? Oh my god,

1220
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: it's over.

1221
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 5: Thank God.

1222
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't I let Karen choose.

1223
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,919
Speaker 2: Well, but oh right, we we got a fun tweet

1224
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: and we want There's someone who made us a very

1225
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: great and specific offer. I think her name is Joe

1226
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: do you are you still here? Are you here? Can

1227
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: you moonwalk?

1228
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 1: And is your name? Joe? Yes?

1229
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: Can you please come up here?

1230
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I see her. There's a door with a way.

1231
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: You have to go to that door wherever you are?

1232
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: See that husband of mine? Wait to them, Vince, No,

1233
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: you don't have to do it. I can see you.

1234
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you here?

1235
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: Is she there?

1236
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: She's coming? I see her, she's so let her go,

1237
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: Let her good bye?

1238
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: Is she moving on her knees? Is anything happened?

1239
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: Can she have me? Can it don't spill? Is there popcorn?

1240
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: Some kind of action so that you.

1241
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: Feel she's gonna come behind you?

1242
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: Steven, get ready, be polite, Stephen and find out her name.

1243
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: We're trying to teach him manners, but he's a millennial

1244
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: and you guys know oh those are yeah? Yeah, there

1245
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: she is there?

1246
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: She is? Yeah, Joe, you didn't think we're taking up

1247
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: I remembered it. Hi, Georgia, this looks like you brought

1248
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: your own microphone.

1249
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: Amazing?

1250
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 5: Does it wig?

1251
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: Does it work? Is it on? Yeah? If you're going

1252
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: to threaten us with a good time, Oh it doesn't work,

1253
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: thanks David, it was working?

1254
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: Does that one work?

1255
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, listen, if you don't need a microphone a moonwalk,

1256
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead.

1257
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 2: Wait really quick though, so we're when we're looking at Twitter,

1258
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: and can you just tell the people what you tweeted

1259
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: at us?

1260
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 6: I said that I'm super good at me walking if

1261
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 6: you get tired.

1262
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: Of and we don't ever get tired of talking. But yeah, however,

1263
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: we like moonwalking. We love we love to see some Yeah,

1264
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: it's going to work on.

1265
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: What about the road?

1266
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: Do you need to take your shoes on? Okay, here

1267
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: we go. She's got holes in her tights.

1268
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it. I did it.

1269
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: No, that was super good.

1270
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: That was great. That was amazing. Do you then? We

1271
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: were like, do you have a home? Now it's not

1272
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna work here.

1273
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, that wouldn't work.

1274
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a hometown or do you have

1275
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: a really embarrassing thing that.

1276
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: Happen to Yeah, well let's hear yeah you're here.

1277
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: She is. This is a what do they call it

1278
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: a double act when someone's got a two things?

1279
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, a double act, double a person.

1280
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, people at tea things. Well, we met a lot

1281
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: of people. Have you come to Flora there?

1282
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 5: But I'm going to take a gun.

1283
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: Where are you from?

1284
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 6: I'm from originally from French as Forest, which is near

1285
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 6: where this hometown is.

1286
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: And where is that?

1287
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah nearby here?

1288
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 4: Sure?

1289
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 2: Well, I mean or insertainy compared to Florida.

1290
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there was.

1291
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 6: This was when I was I look really young for

1292
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 6: my age.

1293
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 5: Oh, just out of high school in the late eighties?

1294
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 1: You do? Did you hear the gasps? They're buying They're

1295
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: buying it, Joe.

1296
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 6: We were, they've been. This is John Wayne Glover who's

1297
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 6: the Granny.

1298
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: Killer's Oh yes, Oh I saw that one. I was

1299
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: going to do that and I'm like, I can't. I

1300
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: can't bear it. I can't bear the burden. This is perfect,

1301
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: And I was someone else.

1302
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 5: I've got a twin sister. She's really pretty. I love

1303
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 5: making that joke.

1304
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: I get it. It's funny.

1305
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: And wait a second, do you have a podcast too? No,

1306
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: it's for real? Do you really?

1307
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: What is the old? And it's about cults?

1308
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: Are you called?

1309
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: What's it called?

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01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 5: Sale Salet?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Except my friend.

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Speaker 6: Alex who's here. I'm so shitty because he came up

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01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 6: with a much better name. But does it see you

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 6: last Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 5: I'm like six episode teen, so I can't change it.

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: No, don't change it.

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, Alex. Start your own podcast.

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01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: It's really easy and historical cunts.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't wait to listen to the

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01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: Zealot do it? Okay, Yeah, I love it.

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: I love Colts.

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 2: I did the Family, I know. Oh okay, I know

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of shitty because.

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, did I miss a lot of ship? I

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: know I missed. Julian Assange was in it, and I

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 2: didn't say that.

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no he was, Yeah I didn't.

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01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 5: And have you seen photos of her now?

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: Her hairline, yes, no, we saw that one thing just because.

1333
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: She got so many face lifts that her face now

1334
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: starts back here. That's rude. She's very old and dying, okay,

1335
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: but she's a bad person. Yeah, great dresses, Oh my god,

1336
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: such good clothes.

1337
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 1: So Randicula, we've.

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01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 5: We there'd been a couple of old women killed. And

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 5: in Mossman, which is very ritty suburb.

1340
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: This is all north Shore where everyone's really up tied.

1341
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 6: And John Wanglove I hated his mother and then he

1342
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 6: got a stepmother, a mother in law that he also hated, and.

1343
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 5: He worked as a pie salesman. Prospect like meat pies.

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, I know what a meat pie is, delicious, savory, pastry,

1345
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: got it.

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 6: But like door to door or a nursing home to

1347
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 6: nursing home, I don't know.

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01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 5: Old ladies sells pies to their nursing homes.

1349
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: You think he'd be like, I'm going to get another job.

1350
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to do something different. And old ladies.

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 5: Started to die in the nursing homes he delivered to.

1352
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 5: But no no connection. And he even got in trouble

1353
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 5: a couple of times for.

1354
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 6: He just wandered through the nursing homes and just feel

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 6: old ladies up.

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: He was gross, but.

1357
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: Still no connection.

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 6: Why would a pie salesman need anything interesting to happen?

1359
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: In music?

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: What? Sorry? What year was this again?

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01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty nine?

1362
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you said at the beginning, because you're so young,

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: you're so beautiful.

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01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 6: And he would see old ladies coming home from doing

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 6: their shopping and follow them back to nearly their front door,

1367
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 6: and then as they were opening the front door, hit.

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: Them in the back of the head with a no

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: and then take them inside.

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01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 6: And he wouldn't he'd often still just like one hundred dollars.

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01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 5: But he'd leave their jewelry.

1372
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 6: And he was basically just saying that, you know, he

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 6: doesn't really know how he does it. He just hates

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01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 6: old ladies and can't control himself. But we were we

1375
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 6: wanted to go, my beautiful twin sister and I we

1376
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 6: wanted to go to.

1377
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 5: We're invited to two parties one weekend.

1378
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 1: Wow, I know.

1379
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it is when you're young.

1380
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 6: Uh, And we weren't allowed to go to the nearby

1381
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 6: one because someone killing old ladies.

1382
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: We were young, though, you are you aging backwards and

1383
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: you looked really old. Done. Yeah, gotta gotta got.

1384
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 6: It, yes, And so he went to the other party

1385
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:55,959
Speaker 6: in muss Men and that night he killed someone imossible.

1386
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 6: That afternoon he had but we hadn't heard from it

1387
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 6: yet because nineteen eighty nine we were watching Countdown the News.

1388
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: That's a really cool show, is it.

1389
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, And eventually he got they made the connection between

1390
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 6: pies and feeling up old ladies and hitting them on

1391
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 6: the head. And it would also just steal like one

1392
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 6: hundred dollars but nothing, no jewelry, and he just go

1393
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 6: to the nearby r s L.

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: That's it.

1395
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: Like it's no.

1396
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: He said, no, we can't accept any more new information

1397
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: about this country. I'm sorry we maxed out.

1398
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: If I don't understand, it's not true.

1399
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 5: He'd play the Pokey's with old ladies money.

1400
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: Poky's is the thing you do at a place.

1401
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: Do you a lot of smackies? Play pop? Yeah?

1402
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: How many lots? If it's sort of one or the other.

1403
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: But got it, got it? Got it?

1404
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 5: Hello and yeah?

1405
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1406
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 6: And when he got caught, uh he apparently in jail

1407
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 6: he just did anything to attract attention, and so he

1408
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 6: killed himself in two thousand and five.

1409
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 5: But all his all the fellow inmates.

1410
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 6: Thought he did that for attention and accidentally actually died.

1411
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 6: So because he would do lots of things to just say,

1412
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 6: oh poor me, But he's now.

1413
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: Amazing.

1414
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: Can you do one more moonwalk.

1415
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: Before you have?

1416
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, yeah, moonwalk away.

1417
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: You guys show everybody. Joe, thank you so much.

1418
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: Perfection. Wow, that is what we're looking at home town.

1419
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 2: Yes, listen to zell it. I can't wait. I was

1420
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: just oh my god, I love a cult cults. Oh shit, yeah, God,

1421
01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 2: bless Joe for making that offer so good, good and

1422
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: really coming through The vibe was just perfection. It was

1423
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: almost like our birthday party if the year before the

1424
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 2: birthday party had been ruined by like a tornado. So

1425
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: everyone's like, we're gonna make this the best birthday ever.

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna show you. Yeah.

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01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: First, we'll show you through getting super drunk and supporting you.

1428
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: And having the best accents.

1429
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: Yay. So do you know if there's any updates for

1430
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: this hometown?

1431
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: No updates, Not a lot of updates this episode.

1432
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, Well, this episode was originally entitled Live at

1433
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: the Nmar Theater.

1434
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: And if we were naming it today based on the

1435
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: fucking babble that we say during the show, maybe we

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01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: would call.

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01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: It one More Tim Tam. My love of Tim TAM's truly.

1438
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the eating that we were doing on that

1439
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: tour was incredible, so good, and the candy being brought

1440
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: to us.

1441
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: Candy was incredible. The Tim Tams were just top notch.

1442
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: We had a cookie bake off recently at the Exactly

1443
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: Right Offices and I submitted in the store bought category

1444
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: and Vince I was like, I don't know what to bring,

1445
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: and Vince brought me home Tim Tams and he's like

1446
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: everyone loves Tim Tams or they've never had them, and

1447
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: yes they were.

1448
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: A fucking hit, they really were, and people do need

1449
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: to know about Tim Tams.

1450
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: It's true totally. We could also call it cold cream

1451
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 1: all over the place. She just looks like and Thally's

1452
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: just covered in cold cream, yep.

1453
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: Or give it up for rats, which is when Georgia's.

1454
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: That's so ridiculous.

1455
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: I love it's that's us having fun.

1456
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Or how about piles of thighs?

1457
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Rugby, Oh my god, the rugby culture we got

1458
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: to be in. And remember we actually got to meet

1459
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: a real rugby, a real Australian rugby player.

1460
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, guys. Let's say goodbye from the stage

1461
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: in Sydney in seventeen.

1462
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: Good day, good day, good day.

1463
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: You guys.

1464
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: Thank god this went the way it did tonight.

1465
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: Thank god, thank you.

1466
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 2: I knew we needed it.

1467
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: I need it. I need a cry of joy and

1468
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: not just not outright.

1469
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, every we're so spoiled. Okay,

1470
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: every show pretty much we've ever done, and especially every

1471
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: show on this run here in your gorgeous country has

1472
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:39,480
Speaker 2: been amazing, amazing, amazing, like insanely polite audiences, insanely responsive audiences.

1473
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: Everyone buddy gets it, everyone's funny, everyone knows what's going on,

1474
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 2: So who gives a shit what happened? You know what

1475
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: I mean? Like you guys just reset us. Thank you

1476
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 2: so much, Thank you so much.

1477
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. The support of the people who listen to

1478
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: this podcast makes me feel so much joy. It makes

1479
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: us boke in awe and every fucking day we're we listen,

1480
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: we're divas, but we know how lucky we are.

1481
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy and uh, but also it's like we just

1482
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 2: it's just that thing where we're very lucky in that

1483
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: we hit a thing that galvanized a bunch of people.

1484
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: But it's your guys' thing, you know what I mean.

1485
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: It's it's we all just have the same interest and

1486
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: we're just lucky enough to be the ones talking about it.

1487
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to us, Thank you

1488
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: so much for your support.

1489
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 1: From the bottom of our heart, this is an amazing show,

1490
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: amazing and we just like you listen.

1491
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: All we want is for you to stay is sexy

1492
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: and don't get.

1493
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: Bye Sam, Thank you, Elvis. Do you want a cookie