WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind:  Forbidden Planet

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's winter break week, so we have a rewind episode

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<v Speaker 1>here for you. This one originally published three seven, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. It is our episode on the nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>six science fiction classic Forbidden Planet. Such and such a

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<v Speaker 1>fun film, oh and such an iconic electronic musical score.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 3>today we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six American science fiction adventure Forbidden Planet, starring Walter

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<v Speaker 3>Pigeon and Francis and Leslie Nielsen. Yes, that Leslie Nielsen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know before where he went full irony mode with

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<v Speaker 3>movies like Airplane and The Naked Gun. He was a stern,

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<v Speaker 3>square jawed ham from outer space. And this movie makes

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<v Speaker 3>the best and the worst use of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this movie is full of male actors just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I had such a good time rewatching Forbidden Planet. This

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the first time I'd seen it, but the first

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<v Speaker 3>time in a while, and It's one of those classic

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<v Speaker 3>films that both holds up so well and doesn't and

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<v Speaker 3>both ways are good. Like it is at once gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 3>thoughtful and clever and also dated, corny and numb skullish,

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<v Speaker 3>and like both aspects make for a very good time.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that, at least in my viewing of

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<v Speaker 1>the film, it never felt completely offensive, and it never was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was never boring. I guess it is a

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<v Speaker 1>film that has a well earned place in sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>cinema legend, and if you could, it's easy to go

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<v Speaker 1>into Forbidden Planet expecting it to like wholly and completely

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<v Speaker 1>live up to that legend. But this is a film

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<v Speaker 1>that is clearly trying to do multiple things at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time in essence to justify its budget. I imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it needs to be a film with a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant sci fi vision. It also needs to have laughs,

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to have some you know, some winky sex appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to deliver on all of these things, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ultimately it does and does so in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that is not completely shameful decades later. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think I have to tip my hat to it in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had completely forgotten about the sixty gallons

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<v Speaker 3>of whiskey scene. That really adds a whole other dimension

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<v Speaker 3>to the Forbidden Planet experience. You did not think this

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<v Speaker 3>movie would be so much about men stranded in space

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<v Speaker 3>who are horny and want booze.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a huge element of mad men in space,

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<v Speaker 1>the bunch of Don Draper esque male characters essentially hitting on,

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<v Speaker 1>relentlessly hitting on the one female in their vicinity. Only

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a like a secretary in a in like

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<v Speaker 1>a New York office space, it is the daughter of

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant scientist on a distant world.

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<v Speaker 3>The one true extraterrestrial we get to meet in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Though she is a human, but she's from another planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Joe, you fished up one of the posters for

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<v Speaker 1>Forbidden Planet, and oh, it's so it's so beautiful. It

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<v Speaker 1>of course features a non human entity carrying an unconscious,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful woman. I can't recall. Does Robbie the robot ever

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<v Speaker 1>carry Anne Francis in this picture?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if he does. He does carry the

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Doc Austro, Remember.

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<v Speaker 1>That and wonder that that should have been on the poster?

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<v Speaker 3>Close enough? Yeah, it should have been like a uniformed

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<v Speaker 3>guy who just got his brains apped by an alien computer.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, he's he's carrying a blonde lady here, and

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't look that much like Anne Francis, Like really long,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know it's close enough. This was the format

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<v Speaker 3>at the time they tore Johnson to Robbie the Robot.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Well, Yeah, this film is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun to talk about. I believe this

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<v Speaker 1>is the third time we've covered a movie that's referenced

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<v Speaker 1>in the lyrics of science fiction double Feature from the

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky Horror Picture Show. Because we've done Doctor X, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've done Tarantula, and now we've done Forbidden Planet. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>in the chorus we get to hear we are reminded

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<v Speaker 1>several times that Ann Francis stars in Forbidden Planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, because planet runs with Janet. Yeah, yeah, it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the film score, I will I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say that I have the film score to Forbidden Planet

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in my head. It's not really an earworming score

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<v Speaker 1>in the traditional sense, but I've certainly had science fiction

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<v Speaker 1>double feature in my head all week ever since I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Forbidden Planet.

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<v Speaker 3>You know one thing that I think really sets Forbidden

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<v Speaker 3>Planet apart from most of the science fiction of the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties is that it is an extreme example of

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<v Speaker 3>our show category of a rub the Fur movie. It

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<v Speaker 3>is an overwhelming experience of pleasing visual and sonic textures.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even if the movie had no dialogue or story

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<v Speaker 3>at all, I think it would be a wonderful experience

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<v Speaker 3>just to sit and absorb the sets and the painted

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<v Speaker 3>back drops, the special effects, the costumes and the props.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about so many things that are just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>caramel chocolate to the eyes, Like you know, the green

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<v Speaker 3>sky and the mountains that we see on Altair four,

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<v Speaker 3>the mid century future chic decor of the Morbius house,

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<v Speaker 3>so that pink mod furniture and all the loosight beams

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<v Speaker 3>and everything, the forced perspective shots of the Krell technology

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<v Speaker 3>where you've got these bridges going over the bottomless pits

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<v Speaker 3>of the power generators and whatever those big white globes

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<v Speaker 3>are that are like riding belts up and down the

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<v Speaker 3>wall into the darkness. You've got that great alien garden

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<v Speaker 3>around the Morbius swimming pool. You've got the design of

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<v Speaker 3>Robbie the robot, which is just I don't know, we

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<v Speaker 3>should come back to that, because that alone is unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 3>those great diamond shaped archways. And I love, of course

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<v Speaker 3>when we finally see the hand animated blood red outline

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<v Speaker 3>of the beast in the movie, the id Beast that

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<v Speaker 3>hunts the Astronauts. And also not just the visual but

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<v Speaker 3>the sonic textures as well. As you were just alluding to.

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<v Speaker 3>It might not be earworms, but the sounds of the

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<v Speaker 3>movie are so interesting. It's just a corn ucopia of

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<v Speaker 3>fascinating ambient sound. And so I was thinking that while

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<v Speaker 3>we are today quite used to thinking of sci fi

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<v Speaker 3>movies as rubbed the fur events, full of pleasing images

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<v Speaker 3>and sounds, just great textures, having watched a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>sci fi movies from the nineteen fifties for the show,

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue that this was not the norm at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. A ton of sci fi movies from the

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<v Speaker 3>fifties are not full of pleasing visual and sonic textures.

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<v Speaker 3>They are low budget affairs without much exciting to show

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<v Speaker 3>you other than maybe like a monster costume. Even a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the better ones are usually good because of

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<v Speaker 3>the like premise, or they're about ideas in some interesting way,

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<v Speaker 3>and they consist primarily of dudes standing around talking in

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<v Speaker 3>a sparsely decorated set.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I was just looking back at the

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<v Speaker 1>films we've covered from the nineteen fifties, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are, you know, definitely lower budget affairs. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there is, they're generally and that's part of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're making do with less. They're leaning more into the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and we're not getting into that reb defer territory

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<v Speaker 1>that we get with Forbidden Planet, which again is just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not like you can even single out well

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<v Speaker 1>one or two visual elements or sonic elements as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just so many. It's like, is just a feast

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<v Speaker 1>for the eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Every scene is full of shots that are just like

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<v Speaker 3>a poster you'd want to hang on your wall. And

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<v Speaker 3>one reason, of course, is an obvious thing. Forbidden Planet

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<v Speaker 3>stands out because it was shot in color. Specifically, the

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<v Speaker 3>color process was Eastman color, and almost all of the

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<v Speaker 3>other sci fi movies from the fifties that I can

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<v Speaker 3>think of were in black and white. And this was funny, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to find a list of exceptions. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, Okay, what were the other color sci fi

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<v Speaker 3>movies from the fifties, and when I did a Google search,

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<v Speaker 3>the AI summary at the top of the search results

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<v Speaker 3>kept telling me, insisting that movies like The Thing from

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<v Speaker 3>Another World The Incredible Shrinking Man, both of which we

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<v Speaker 3>watched for the show, were in color. No, they're not,

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<v Speaker 3>it said The Day the Earth Stood Still was in color.

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<v Speaker 3>The original one is not. You know, I've seen these movies.

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<v Speaker 3>They're in black and white. But there are some examples.

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<v Speaker 3>I can think of a few that I've seen. One

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<v Speaker 3>is Invaders from Mars from nineteen fifty three, directed by

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<v Speaker 3>William Cameron Menzies. Though this was shot in something called

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<v Speaker 3>super cinicolor, which is a two color process that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>quite end up looking like full color. It has an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting color palette, but it's kind of pale and faded, faded,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of greenish gold. And then the same year there

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<v Speaker 3>was a color adaptation of H. G. Wells War of

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<v Speaker 3>the Worlds directed by Byron Haskin that was in technicolor.

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<v Speaker 3>There was an adapt there was the adaptation of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand Leagues. Of course, we talked about that just a

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<v Speaker 3>week or two ago, the one with James Mason that

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<v Speaker 3>was in nineteen fifty four. That's in color, and it

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<v Speaker 3>looks great. There is, of course, This Island Earth in

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<v Speaker 3>fifty five that's in color.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think This Island Earth is indeed probably

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<v Speaker 1>Forbidden Planet's closest peer. You know, it doesn't have a robot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has a wonderful monster. It has some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of color and bizazz to it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about about This Island Earth much smaller budget. Forbidden

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<v Speaker 1>Planet costs more than twice as much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So there are some other examples of great looking

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<v Speaker 3>color sci fi films from the fifties, but not many,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just was not the norm for sci fi

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<v Speaker 3>movies at the time. Frankly, a lot of these movies

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<v Speaker 3>from the fifties, even the relatively good ones, are not

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<v Speaker 3>any more visually exciting than It Conquered the world. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>would make them good might be good writing or good acting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or maybe how well they shoot the monster costume

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we were just saying, even when you consider

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<v Speaker 3>the other color pictures, I just don't think there is

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<v Speaker 3>another one that even comes close to Forbidden Planet. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just exquisite to look upon this the whole box of crayons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean nine years later you would get Planet

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<v Speaker 1>of the Vampires, which, of course is another film we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about on the show that is set in space

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<v Speaker 1>and has brilliant use of sets and costumes. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a this is this is the forerunner,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could probably make a very strong case that

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<v Speaker 1>a film like Planet of the Vampires wouldn't exist if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have Forbidden Planet getting there early and setting

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<v Speaker 1>the trend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Planet of the Vampires has got to

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<v Speaker 3>be at least in part inspired by the look of

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<v Speaker 3>Forbidden Planet. Okay, so we've established it's a ten course

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<v Speaker 3>dinner for the eyes. But another thing I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>is this a good place to talk about this movie's

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<v Speaker 3>relationship to Shakespeare's The Tempest, because that's the thing. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people commenting on this over the years have

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out the plot of Forbidden Planet seems like a

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<v Speaker 3>very loose adaptation of Shakespeare's The Tempest, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was kind of interesting because I know I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>it said before that compared to most of the plays

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<v Speaker 3>of Shakespeare, The Tempest is rarely put on film in

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<v Speaker 3>anything like its original form. It's just not a play

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<v Speaker 3>that gets a straight adaptation to film very much. Adaptations

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<v Speaker 3>of the Tempest in cinema are almost always very loose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know, I took a few different Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>classes in college and we never directly covered the Tempest,

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<v Speaker 1>as I recall, so maybe in part because we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have as many adaptations to watch on video to discuss it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this is frequently cited as an adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Tempest. We have the we have our Prospero character,

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<v Speaker 1>our Miranda, and I guess we have our Caliban of

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<v Speaker 1>sorts as well, our monstrous creature not to be confused

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<v Speaker 1>with the Caliban in Clash of the Titans. Was he

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<v Speaker 1>called Caliban and then I can't recall, but he the

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<v Speaker 1>character in that is very much based on this element

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<v Speaker 1>of the Tempest as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think people have said have pointed out that

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<v Speaker 3>Robbie the robot is kind of aerial from the Tempest.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, yeah, yeah, and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Adams is the Leslie Nielsen character is sort of I

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<v Speaker 3>forget the name, but like one of the Italian nobles

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<v Speaker 3>that gets a lured to the island.

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<v Speaker 1>And who's cook cook have a don't know don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about cook. All right, we'll get back to cook. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a groundbreaking sonic and visual science fiction film here,

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<v Speaker 1>shot in color with a health very healthy by budget,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has Shakespearean elements in its plotting. All right, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an elevator pitch for this film?

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get it down to one sentence, but here's

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<v Speaker 3>the setup. By the twenty third century, humankind has colonized

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<v Speaker 3>the galaxy with the help of faster than light travel,

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<v Speaker 3>but one mission, a mission to an exoplanet called Alta

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<v Speaker 3>four by the explorationship Bellerophon, has gone silent after it arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty years later, a United Planet's starship under Commander JJ

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<v Speaker 3>Adams is sent to the Altaar system to investigate the

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<v Speaker 3>fate of the lost ship and its crew. Once there,

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<v Speaker 3>Adams and his men find that the only survivor of

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<v Speaker 3>the Belerophon is a language scholar named doctor Morbius, as

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<v Speaker 3>well as his twenty year old daughter Altera, who was

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<v Speaker 3>born on the planet. What happened to the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the crew? How have Morbius and Altera survived all this time?

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<v Speaker 3>And where can a guy find bourbon and kissing lessons.

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<v Speaker 3>On a planet such as.

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<v Speaker 1>This, all this and morel will be explored. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and listen to a little trailer on here.

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<v Speaker 4>You imagine yourself as one of the crew of this

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<v Speaker 4>faster than light spaceship of the future, sharing their curiosity

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<v Speaker 4>to know the unknown, their tension, their readiness for inconceivable adventures.

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<v Speaker 4>When you reach the Forbidden Planet, you will meet Doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Morbius played by Walter Pigeon. The doctor is sole owner

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<v Speaker 4>of this fabulous world. Anne Francis is his alluring daughter, Alta,

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<v Speaker 4>who has never seen a young man till she meets

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<v Speaker 4>Commander Adams played by talented Leslie Nielson. You will meet

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<v Speaker 4>a charming character in a robot able to produce on

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<v Speaker 4>order ten tons of lead or a slinky evening gown

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<v Speaker 4>always at your service. You explore all the wonders of

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<v Speaker 4>a vanished civilization. You travel deep down into the heart

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<v Speaker 4>of the Forbidden Planet to discover the incredible marvels of

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<v Speaker 4>this last genious race. These magnificent scenes in striking Eastman

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<v Speaker 4>color stagger the imagination. Yet the wonders of the planet

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<v Speaker 4>all tear four conceal a strange and evil force unknown irresistible.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, you may be wondering where can I

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<v Speaker 1>watch Forbidden Planet. Well, this was a major release. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been released on all formats over the years. It

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely available on Blu ray I belief from Warner

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<v Speaker 1>Home Video or something, and I'm not I didn't check

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<v Speaker 1>for this, but it's possible, I guess. Given in this

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<v Speaker 1>an MGM film, maybe MGM Plus has its streaming. You

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<v Speaker 1>might check around for that. I, however, watched this film

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<v Speaker 1>on the big screen. I saw it over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>at Atlanta's Historic Plaza Theater, presented as part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Silver Screen Spook Show series, and I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>looks terrific watching it in those old squeaky chairs there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the colors are fantastic. The sound is just

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<v Speaker 1>resonating around you and sometimes feeling like it's moving from

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<v Speaker 1>ear to ear. So I highly recommend seeing films like

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<v Speaker 1>this in the theater if you do get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to see them. Silver Screens Spook Show. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be doing mathra versus Godzilla on May seventeenth, two

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<v Speaker 1>shows as usual, a family friendly nay and a late

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<v Speaker 1>night show for grown ups. If you were in the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta area on that date.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, should we get into the connections.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Starting at the top with the director. It's Fred M. Wilcox,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen oh seven through nineteen sixty four, American

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<v Speaker 1>director who started out at MGM as an assistant to

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<v Speaker 1>King Vedoor, eventually working his way up through the MGM

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<v Speaker 1>Shorts department to direct the nineteen forty three feature Lassie

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<v Speaker 1>Come Home, which starred a fourteen year old Roddy McDowell.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he the voice of the kid yelling Lassie?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the kid that presumably yells Lassie, So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, so okay? Cool. I felt this one was

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<v Speaker 1>evidently a success because it had a sequel, nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>six is Courage of Lassie, And this one had a

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<v Speaker 1>fully grown Elizabeth Taylor in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Did it also still have Roddy McDowell.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, Roddy McDowell, this okay, Elizabeth Taylor only okay?

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<v Speaker 3>And then Roddy McDowell. He went from Lassie to Laser Blast.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Another film he director was nineteen forty nine is

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<v Speaker 1>The Secret Garden, which had a twelve year old Dean

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<v Speaker 1>Stockwall in it. Huh yeah, yeah, You can look up

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<v Speaker 1>screenshots from The Secret Garden and there's a little kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Stockwell.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact to check, Dean Stockwell was never twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. He also did nineteen fifty two Shadow in

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<v Speaker 1>the Sky with Nancy Reagan. Forbidden Planet was produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Willcox's nephew in law, producer Nicholas Nefek, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>apparently going to produce another big budget sci fi film

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<v Speaker 1>with a title something like Robot Planet, and Willcox was

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<v Speaker 1>going to direct that as well, but Nefact died in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty eight. Wilcock directed one more film himself, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he also died in nineteen sixty four at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of fifty six. Wow. But I believe this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those examples where the director, you know, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out of science fiction, and his life and career

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't long enough afterwards to return to any science fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it kind of stands out as a

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<v Speaker 1>one off. But boy, what a one off. This is

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<v Speaker 1>easily the film he's best remembered for, all right. The

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<v Speaker 1>screenplay is by Cyril Hume, who lived nineteen hundred through

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six, American writer whose first novel The Wife

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<v Speaker 1>of the Centaur was a big hit in nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and adapted into a King Vidor Silent film in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty four. He wrote a few more novels, but

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<v Speaker 1>mostly transitioned into screenwriting, working on several Tarzan movies in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties, a nineteen forty nine adaptation of The

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<v Speaker 1>Great Gatsby, and then also a nineteen fifty six film

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<v Speaker 1>titled Ransom exclamation Point, which was remade in nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mel Gibson picture that some of you might remember.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's worth noting that the nineteen fifty six Ransom

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<v Speaker 1>was itself an adaptation of a nineteen fifty four episode

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<v Speaker 1>that aired on the anthology series The United States Steel Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>What the United States Steel Out?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>It was just named after a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Like what should we call it? Should we

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<v Speaker 1>call it like action or thriller or you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of a zone And they're like, nope, the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Steel Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's like the Colgate Comedy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess somewhere to deal. Hume also

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<v Speaker 1>did some westerns. His only other sci fi screenplay was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty seven's The Invisible Boy, a sort of sequel

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<v Speaker 1>spin off to Forbidden Planet, which we'll come back to.

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<v Speaker 1>Forbidden Planet is Hume's most famous work, again highly influential,

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<v Speaker 1>and is itself, at least a very loose adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare's The Tempest. Now there are a couple of story

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<v Speaker 1>credits Irving Block and Alan Adler. Alan Adler lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen through nineteen sixty four, also worked on a film

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<v Speaker 1>in fifty nine called The Giant Behemoth, and then Block

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen ten through nineteen eighty six. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>I think mostly a special effects visual effects guy who

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<v Speaker 1>worked exclusively in genre pictures, often B movies, mostly science fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>and he sometimes contributed story ideas, this being the first

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<v Speaker 1>case of that. Other story credits include fifty seven's Kronos,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Oh boys, here's a title for you,

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<v Speaker 1>The Saga of the Viking Women and their voyage to

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<v Speaker 1>the waters of the Great Sea Serpent.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, does that title cover everything?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's more, Okay, a longer title is possible. He

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<v Speaker 1>also has story credits on Roger Corman's War of the

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<v Speaker 1>Satellites in fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are both Roger Corman movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so the saga the Viking Women and their Voyage

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<v Speaker 1>to the Waters of the Great Sea Serpent also Corman.

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<v Speaker 3>Also Corman, I think in the same year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that's right, they're both fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he also has story credits on The thirty

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<v Speaker 1>foot Bride of Candy Rock and Atomic Submarine, both in

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it, but I've just I have a

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<v Speaker 3>premonition that the movie Atomic Submarine is super boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting into the cast, Let's start at the top in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of billing with Doctor Morbius, played by Walter Pigeon,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived eighteen ninety seven through nineteen eighty four. Walter Pigeon,

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<v Speaker 1>a two time Oscar nominee who had not done I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe he'd really done a sci fi film up

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<v Speaker 1>to this point, having been mostly known for stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty one's How Green Was My Valley? After Forbidden Planet,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd go on to appear in a handful of other

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi flicks, sixty one's Voyage to the Bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sea, seventy three's The Neptune Factor. Oh, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this was interesting. This is apparently like a made for

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<v Speaker 1>TV film Movie of the Week Situation nineteen seventy fours

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<v Speaker 1>Live Again, Die Again, which is like about a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who is cryogenically frozen and then is brought back to

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<v Speaker 1>life and her husband is old now and played by

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Pigeon.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, you know, I was thinking, I like the

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<v Speaker 3>line that Walter Pigeon rides in this movie between hero

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<v Speaker 3>and villain. For much of the film, you can't quite

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<v Speaker 3>tell how like what his intentions are. So he's that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of character who's mostly polite and helpful and seems

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<v Speaker 3>mostly forthright, but also maybe seems to be hiding something.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know how much you can trust him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like is he going to be is he Captain Nemo?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of the big question that had to

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<v Speaker 1>be on a lot of people's minds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I don't know, I could

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<v Speaker 3>see him. I could see him in another life of

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<v Speaker 3>playing of having played a Bond villain or something like.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybeybe nothing against Michael Lonsdale. He's great, but like he

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<v Speaker 3>could have been in Moonriker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, things have played out differently. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like the ambiguity regarding his character. You're never

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<v Speaker 1>really sure that he's a villain or what villainous elements

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<v Speaker 1>he might have, but you also don't completely trust him.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's easier, as a modern viewer of this

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<v Speaker 1>film to assume that he's up to no good. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my kid also watch the film with me, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, yeah, yeah, I knew he was hiding something, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he know he was hiding something? I guess he

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<v Speaker 3>knew he was hiding something, but maybe not the thing

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<v Speaker 3>you're thinking of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. He also did some horror movies. He appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in seventy two's The Screaming Woman, and also a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of gorilla movies in the twenties and thirties. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're two separate gorilla movies and not the same gorilla movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, someone had to starring gerrilla movies, so

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<v Speaker 1>more power to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he in any of the Machist Goes to Hell movies?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, again, we know that Ann Francis stars

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<v Speaker 1>in Forbidden Planet, and indeed she does, playing Altara Morbius,

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<v Speaker 1>the daughter of doctor Morbius. Anne Francis lived nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty and eleven. She's our lone female character in

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<v Speaker 1>the film the daughter of doctor Morbius, so again seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>doomed to never know love or earth, at least until

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the cast shows up to just relentlessly

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<v Speaker 1>hit on her again like she's a secretary and a

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<v Speaker 1>Madman era office. She's our Miranda character, Golden Globe winning

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<v Speaker 1>actress whose other films include nineteen fifty five's Bad Day

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<v Speaker 1>at Black Rock and nineteen sixty eight's Funny Girl, which

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<v Speaker 1>also co starred Walter Pigeon. Her screen credits begin in

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<v Speaker 1>the late forties. I believe she appeared on Broadway as

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<v Speaker 1>a child, and she remained active, especially on TV up

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<v Speaker 1>through two thousand and four, and she did two episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of the original Twilight Zone.

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<v Speaker 3>I also like Anne Francis in this role quite a

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<v Speaker 3>lot because she she does bring a kind of edge

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 3>to it in a way that you don't expect when

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 3>you first meet the character. So the character, as we'll

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 3>get into later, I was describing her as sort of

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Twins, like she has learned all

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 3>of the you know, all of the academic subjects, as

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>she knows all the sciences and literature and everything, but

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 3>is hopelessly naive about society and human interactions.

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of a subset of like she's not a

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>full blown doll person where she's just like a child

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>in an adult's body. She knows plenty of things, she

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't have like a lot of like social real

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>world experience because she's never been to Earth.

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she has no street smarts or savvy, so like

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 3>has no doesn't know what to do when somebody is

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>like trying to lie to her or take advantage of her.

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 3>So there's a scene where this where a creep character

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 3>is giving her kissing lessons. But she has a great

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 3>kind of turn in that scene because he's like he's like, oh,

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 3>let's try kissing again, and she's like, I don't get it.

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 3>There's it's not very good.

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 1>That got a lot of laughs with the audience, the

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>live audience. So there's the humor in this film. You know,

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it mostly holds up sometimes, I mean it it holds

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>it holds up in places, and it's just kind of

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>hammy and too old fashioned in other places, but in

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>both regards generates laughter, So still effective. But yeah, I agree,

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I think she's she's good in the role. And of

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>course she's a real beauty, no denying that, but I

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>was surprised at how how skimpy the outfits get in

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>this picture. Oh like there is. I was confused by

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the bathing sequence. At first it seems like she's bathing nude,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe she's wearing a garment, but maybe that's

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>also a garment that they wore in movies at the

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>time to make it seem like someone was bathing naked.

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.439
<v Speaker 3>It does seem to be really pushing the limits of

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 3>what like an MGM picture would have allowed in the

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties. But yeah, she's in the scene where she's swimming,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I think she is supposed to be nude, and then

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>she's just like you know, when she gets out of

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 3>the pool in a brief shot. I think she's wearing

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 3>a garment match to her skin, and then it's supposed

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 3>to just go by real quick. But maybe they weren't

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 3>expecting to have the kind of definition that people have

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 3>on screens today.

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It's true like later in the picture, there's some very

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>delicate wire work that allows Robbie the robot to carry

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the doctor's body and or doc's body, and it's very

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>good wire work, because you can barely see it even

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in like higher definition, so I'm guessing it would have

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>been most invisible at one point. All Right, it's time

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Leslie Nielsen. He's our leading man here

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>playing Commander Adams. Lesli Nielsen lived nineteen twenty six through

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, and I think many many of you out there,

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>myself included, for a long time anyway, when I thought

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>about this Canadian actor, I mostly or even exclusively thought

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>about his late career reinvention as a dead pan, comedic

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>goof all of this coming in the wake of nineteen

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>eighties Airplane and this era gave like that lasted the

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>rest of his life and career gave us the likes

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of TV's Police Squad It's Naked Gun spinoff films. I

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>believe there were three of those, and such spoofs as

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>mel Brooks Dracula Dead and Loving It from nineteen ninety five,

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and just a host of other goofy pictures where Leslie

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Nielsen continually plays these kind of either dead pan, funny

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>characters or increasingly goofy characters. But they all stem from

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>this initial Airplane Naked Gun phase where and these were

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>both the work of David and Jerry Zucker.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 3>It's impossible to know, but I almost feel I could

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>have predicted his career would or should take that turn,

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 3>if you were to transport me back to the fifties

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and just show me his performance and Forbidden Planet, because

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 3>he's playing the role totally serious, but he is such

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>a natural ham just he's one of those guys who

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 3>the more serious and deadpan and stern he tries to act,

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.479
<v Speaker 3>the funnier it gets.

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I think the important thing to realize

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>about this late career reinvention as a comedic actor, especially

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>with those early examples. They work entirely on the basis

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that Nielsen was known for these straightforward, serious roles that

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>were a little bit hammy and you know, maybe lacking

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of nuance, and his roland Forbidden Plannet

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>is probably like the most famous example, you know, along

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>side some other films and a great deal of TV work.

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We've talked on the show before about the concept

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>of the nineteen fifties movie the leading man as the

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>rectangle as sort of a character type. Leslie Nielsen in

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>this movie is the ultimate rectangle. Yeah, that is exactly

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 3>what he is he is just he is just there

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to sternly and straightforwardly execute the main motions of the

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 3>plot and then eventually to kiss the girl.

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think we would not be talking about him

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>as much if he did not go on to all

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>these other interesting things, because it's it's not a character

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that I found myself really connecting with on any level.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Like he's just this this sort of hyper masculine ideal

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of the fifties.

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 3>But not in an interesting way.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Not an interesting way. Yeah.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it doesn't like get into that as themes like

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 3>say the Incredible Shrinking Man or something. Instead, it's just

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>sort of unexamined. There are interesting characters in the movie,

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>like Morbius and Alta are interesting, but yeah, uh.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Doc, I think Doc, who will get to in a second,

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like he's the character that, in many ways should be

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>like the main point of focus for us as the

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>audience because he does the most amazing things.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but Adams is almos. It almost feels like he's

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 3>made boring on purpose.

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, and of course this is not entirely Leslie

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Nielsen's fault, And I want to point out that Nielsen

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>did have I think a pretty strong villain era. He

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>he appears as a villain in one of my favorite

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Night Gallery episodes nineteen sixty nine, is a question of fear.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe he's like a former mercenary, just a real

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>ruthless character. And I think he ultimately did that really well,

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>playing in as he you know, aged out of being

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>any kind of a leading and character. He could play

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>these like ruthless, cold characters really well. He plays one

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in Stephen King's Creep Show from nineteen eighty two, in

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>which he viciously murders his wife and her lover, who's

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>played by Ted Danson.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 3>And then gets some supernatural vengeance.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's some zombie action of course.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Or vengeance visited upon him, not gets the vengeance.

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Other villain roles of note include nineteen seventy seven's

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Day of the Animals, in which he plays a really

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>nasty character, and also nineteen eighty seven's Nuts.

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have to see some more of the Leslie

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Nielsen villain stuff. I'm interested in that.

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>And it is interesting that some of these villain roles

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that we just mentioned they occurred after airplanes, so he

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>was really It's not like he just was like, oh,

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>airplanes here, I can just do comedy from here on out. Like, No,

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>he was sort of, you know, keeping it a little

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>varied there for a bit, you know, playing a real

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>dirt bag here and then you know, hamming it up

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for laughs on the other side. Yeah.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at some point the rectangle was just cut loose.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>You got some curves, got some corners. Yeah.

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>The next character we want to talk about is Lieutenant

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>doc Ostro, played by Warren Stevens, who of nineteen nineteen

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>through twenty twelve. This is the character that I think

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>is the most interesting. He's the male character that I

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>found myself relating to the most because he seemed most

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>on mission. I think he was the only one that

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was not concerned with hitting on the strange alien woman.

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>He's the one who actually attempts to solve problems that

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>are the larger problems of the plot and has a

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>tragic trajectory as opposed to the heroic trajectory of Leslie

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Nielsen's character.

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, I feel like there are things said about

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 3>this character that are not fully demonstrated in any way

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 3>that I recall, and that makes me wonder if there

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 3>were more originally in the script. Maybe some more interactions

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 3>with him that didn't make it to the final cut. Specifically,

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking of how it's implied that when Morbius meets

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 3>the the main members of the crew, that he really

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 3>sort of bonds with Ostro about like Ostro being a

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of scholar, a man of learning, somebody who's interested

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 3>in learning scientific complexities and stuff like that, which, unless

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm forgetting something, I don't think we ever really see

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 3>demonstrated about the character. It's just sort of said about him.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>It's worth noting that this film in many ways influenced

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Star Trek. We'll get to some examples of that with

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>from a visual standpoint in a bit, But also you

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>can easily look at Commander Adams Leslie Nilsen's character as

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of being a proto Kirk, and you can kind

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>of look at Ostro as being a proto Spock. Kind of.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you would think Bones because the doctor Bones settlement,

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 3>but no, Yeah, he's a little bit more Spocky. He's

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>somewhere between Bones and Spock.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>He does the sort of thing that I guess you

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>could see Bones or Spock doing what this character ultimately does,

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>but especially Spock.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then the third guy in the main three

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 3>landing Party is just like Kirk two.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I'll get to him. Well, I'll go ahead

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>mention him and then come back to to Stevens. But yeah.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Jack Kelly plays Lieutenant Farman who Live nineteen twenty seven

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>through nineteen ninety two American actor whose other credits include

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>sixty one's A Fever in the Blood and the TV

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>show Maverick Warren Stevens. He also did a fair amount

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of TV, best remembered for his role here in Forbidden Planet.

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>His other film credits include nineteen fifty four is Gorilla

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>at Large Again you got to have a Gorilla movie

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>in there somewhere, and the Barefoot Contests I believe in

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the same year, opposite Humphrey Bogart and Ava Gardner nineteen

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>sixty six is Cyborg twenty eighty seven, and he apparently

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>has a cameo in nineteen ninety one Samurai Cop.

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Wow Man Cyborg twenty eighty seven. That sounds like the

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 3>name of a movie from the eighties, not a movie

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>from the sixties.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna have to look into that one more.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Another crew member to briefly mention, we have Richard Anderson

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>playing Chief Quinn. He lived nineteen twenty six through twenty seventeen,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>American actor who also appeared in Stanley Kubrick's nineteen fifty

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>seven war picture Paths of Glory. I don't remember who

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>exactly he was in that. It's been a while since

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that movie. But he was also a regular

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>cast member on TV's The Six Million Dollar Man. But

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>now it's time to talk about Cook.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 3>COOKOK, what a character. I think at some point the

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 3>other day I just texted you the word cook. Yeah.

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 1>Cook. I was not expecting Cook. I should also add

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I had not seen for Bid Blennett before before seeing

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it in the theater, and I think I was kind

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of expecting more like pure high minded science fiction. So

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the Hammier elements kind of surprised me, and then Cook

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>really surprised me. A character, a pure comic relief character

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>who initially just kind of like wanders into the scene,

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like stirring some biscuits or something and starts asking wise

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>guy questions about the plot. Yeah.

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so they're going to another star system on

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 3>this like multi year voyage to Altara four, and some

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>of the crew members are just guys like Cook. Cook

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 3>is just a total bumpkin who is looking for whiskey

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 3>on the other edge of the galaxy.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like he sees Robby the rovine. He's like, well,

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>what is it as a man? Is it a woman?

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we we have a lot to say about Cook here,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>played by Earl Holloman who lived in nineteen twenty eight

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>through twenty twenty four. A real Mike Nelson looking guy.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 3>I have to say, yeah, yeah, I could see Cook

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 3>was almost like a character Mike Nelson would have played

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 3>in one of the early show skits.

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. I could have easily imagined Mike Nelson, you know,

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>walking out on the set of the Sidle Out of Love,

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like stirring the pot here. Now. Holloman's pretty interesting tho,

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>because he went on to appear in a number of

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>big films in the nineteen fifties. He was in A

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty six Giant. He was also in The rain Maker

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and in The rain Maker. His role in that earned

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>him a Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor, and

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he remained active up until I believe two thousand, doing

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of TV, as well as popping up in

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one Sharky's Machine, which keeps coming up on

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the show in the Connections. I've never seen it, but

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it is a neo noir set in Atlanta, directed by

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Burt Reynolds. So at some point I need to actually

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 1>sit down and watch Sharky's Machine.

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, I've never seen it either.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even know that it actually has

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<v Speaker 1>a machine. I was I had that question pop into

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>my head and I was looking at the Wikipedia article

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and like the plot summary, It's like, well, is there

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a machine or is there not a machine? I think

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the machine is one of the supporting characters. I don't know.

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I know Sharky is Burt Reynolds, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, maybe machine is like a like a system

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 3>of people doing something like a like a crime. Crime

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 3>syndicate is a machine in some way.

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of machines, this film also famously stars Robbie

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the Robot playing Robbie the Robot.

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 3>They give him billing, he.

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Has bill in and I am just ever pleased by

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he has his own IMDb page. He

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.720
<v Speaker 1>is treated by IMDb as an actual actor, alongside various

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.240
<v Speaker 1>dogs and cats, and of course living in deceased human beings.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>This was his screen debut. Robbie the Robot was essentially

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>born in nineteen fifty five. He was born in the

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>MGM Props Department, with credit generally going to a. Arnold Gailepsi,

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Doug Hubbard, and Robert Kinoshita. He's voiced here by Marvin Miller,

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen thirteen through nineteen eighty five, with Frankie

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Darrow who lived nineteen seventeen through nineteen seventy six. Actually

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in the suit, it is a suit. It's a big

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>clunky prop. Shane Morton, the host of the Silver Screens

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Spook Show, mentioned that in the intro to the presentation

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of the picture that it was apparently really loud, and

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if you watch Forbidden Planet a lot, you can maybe

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>note that actors are maybe speaking a little louder when

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>they're sharing a screen time with Robbie the Robot, because

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he had all sorts of clunky of business going on

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>in his body. And it is probably a clunky, old

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>fashioned design by today's standards, but it's an amazing build

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>that you know, certainly resonated with sci fi fans and

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it made him icon of the genre. You know, this

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is you think about robots from the nineteen fifties and sixties,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to think about Robbie the Robot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Man, the clunkiness does not downgrade him at all.

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 3>In my mind. I think Robbie is still to this

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 3>day one of the best robots ever put on film.

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I'd love so much about his design. I love the

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 3>non humanoid moving parts, so not just the arms and legs,

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 3>but things like the cycling typewriter guts inside, the clear

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 3>plastic dome of his head and the chemical analyzer, the

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 3>male slot mouth thing in his chest, the spinning navigation,

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and timmy. It's just one of the best robot designs ever.

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And I love every moment he's on screen. I love

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 3>the I think this is what you were just alluding to,

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 3>being very loud. I love the clacking sound that starts

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>as like the parts are moving inside before he starts talking.

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's a great design. I love his shape.

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>He has a great silhouette, instantly recognizable. I love his

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>little centaur vehicle that he climbs into to roam about

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>on the planet's surface.

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh the buggy, Yeah.

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, Robbie the Robot. He followed this up

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>with the spinoff The Invisible Boy, in which a boy

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>named Kimmy in the year nineteen fifty seven is given

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a given super intelligence by a supercomputer and then he

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>like reassembles Robbie again. This is kind of like a

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>loose spinoff sequel. I don't think it really necessarily supposed

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to think it is a legitimate follow up to Forbid

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the Planet. But Robbie the Robot mostly appeared in TV

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>cameos after this. He showed up on The Twilight Zone,

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>The Adams Family, Lost in Space opposite the Robot. The

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Robot from Lost in Space is another iconic robot costume

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of the time period, showed up on Colombo, Wonder Woman,

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>More Can Mindy, the Love Boat, and then you know

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of later appearances and things like Earth Girls Are Easy

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes a IMDb he's credited as toy. Like I'm guessing,

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>like maybe he just shows up as a Robbie the

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Robot toy, which isn't quite the same thing.

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some of his cameos are just he's a prop

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 3>in the background.

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think I like the Twilight Zone, he

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>shows up as like it is a plot element and

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to some extent like he has a Robot.

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned earlier that the special effects throughout the

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 3>film just looked fantastic, Robbie of course being a major

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 3>one of them the prop created there. But also there

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 3>are some animation effects in this movie that are I

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 3>think just unparalleled, just absolutely spectacular.

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right, because eventually we begin we begin to have

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>these attacks by some sort of a monster, but it

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is an invisible monster for the most part, and we

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>only get glimpses of its form as it interacts with

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>various force fields and so forth, various like energy sources

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and the like. And when this occurs, we are seeing

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>special effects that I believe are largely the work of

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>one Joshua Mador who lived nineteen eleven through nineteen sixty five.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>He's credited with special effects through courtesy of Walt Disney Productions,

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>because indeed, he was an animator and special effects artist

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 1>who had worked on numerous Walt Disney animated features such

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>as thirty seven Snow White nineteen forties, Fan Tasa nineteen

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.479
<v Speaker 1>fifty Cinderella later on, as well as such live action

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>productions as fifty four to twenty thousand Leagues under the Sea,

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>which we just mentioned, and so yeah, his talents helped

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>bring to life the Invisible Monstrosity. You know, they have

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>some practical effects too, like you know, a tree getting

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>knocked over on the set when the creature passes. But

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>then also these animated effects that kind of give us

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a glimpse of this big kind of you know, monstrous

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>almost I don't know, kind of like dog like, bear,

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like grimlin like being.

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we never see a very clear picture of

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 3>what it is, which makes it all the more interesting,

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Like you only get these sort of illuminated electric outlines

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 3>of the face in which it is. It is something

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of raging. It has a snarling, toothy mouth.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 3>It's gigantic, of course, and it also appears to be

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, almost kind of pyramid shaped.

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's it's really cool and I think these

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>effects hold up really well. Mayde Or outside of this,

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>would mostly continue to work on Disney films and TV

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>projects for the rest of his career, including animation effects

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>on Darby Ogill and The Little People in fifty nine.

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>He was also apparently an accomplished painter.

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Now, Rob, I know you already said you had been

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 3>listening to the sounds from the film I don't know

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 3>if they called it a soundtrack in this in this

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 3>case because a lot of it is not exactly what

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 3>we'd think of as music, but is very important for

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 3>the feeling of the film. But it was produced by

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 3>actually a pair of creators, right.

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, husband and wife team Beebe and Lewis Baron. Boebe

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen twenty sixty two thousand and eight and Lewis

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen twenty through nineteen eighty nine, and they are

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>credited as composer electronic tonalities, which is perfect, a perfect

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>way to describe the music that they create. But I

0:45:55.640 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>think there were also some technicalities regarding like unions where

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>they weren't allowed to say that it was a film

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 1>score because they were not in the Music Film Score

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Union at the time, and I think therefore we're also

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>not eligible for OSCAR nomination. But yes, the score is terrific.

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>It is an historic score in that it is the

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>first fully electronic score for a motion picture. By nineteen

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty six, movies had been utilizing electronic elements in their

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>sound design for quite a while. I was reading a

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit about the use of the theorem and in

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>film in a twenty eighteen article for the Script Lab

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>by Claire Nina Narelli pointing out that the Theoreman was

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>invented in nineteen twenty and by around nineteen thirty nineteen

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty one it was used in the Russian film auDNA

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>or Alone. This was originally going to be a silent film,

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but then apparently had music, sound effects and some dialogue

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.919
<v Speaker 1>recorded in post and then played alongside it, and among

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>those sounds we had Theramy music. There's another electronic instrument

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of the time period, an early electronic instrument called the

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:12.439
<v Speaker 1>let's say, the one Martineau, and this was also used

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 1>in various scores and sound designs, including Bride of Frankenstein.

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And the author here points out that the instruments, this instrument,

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that Theram in particular, began to pop up in Hollywood

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>films during the mid nineteen forties, generally at first to

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>emphasize instability, such as in nineteen forty five Spellbound, so

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a destabilizing sonic effect, but then it began to be

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>associated with sci fi and spaceships, in nineteen fifty with

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>rocket Ship XM, and then of course in nineteen fifty

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>one's The Day the Earth Stood Still, which features a

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>traditional orchestral score, but with two theremins so again. Up

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>until this point, cinema had been playing with a little

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>electronic sound, but no one had fully committed to a

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>full length motion picture with exclusively electronic music until now.

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 1>And apparently, like I was reading, apparently the way it

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>started out, they were like, well, let's these guys were

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>doing some really interesting work BB and Lewis, Let's bring

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 1>him in to do you know, a few minutes worth

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of sound. And then like the right people liked it

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, let's have them do the whole thing.

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's do this exclusively, which you know, for various reasons,

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.399
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't popular with everyone. And I can imagine, yeah,

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>there were probably some people who are like, this doesn't

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>sound like a film score, this doesn't sound like music.

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would disagree. But their work was apparently

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>very avant garde. They you know, they used ring modulator

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>circuits and then altered the results with reverb, tape delay

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>and other editing techniques. Apparently there was a very high

0:48:56.360 --> 0:49:00.080
<v Speaker 1>unpredictability with their work, like if they successfully create they

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>did a certain soundscape, they couldn't necessarily come back and

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>recreate it in the same way, so it was kind

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of a roll of the dice and then and then

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>an editing exercise to get something that they wanted.

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think a lot of music creators today might

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.720
<v Speaker 3>know that effect. If you've got like a pedal board

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 3>that you runar through and you might create some sound

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 3>you really like, but then you mess with the knobs

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>and then you can't get it to sound the same

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 3>way again, you forget how you did it.

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow wow. So yeah, at this point, yeah, they

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>were very avant garde. They had been contributing electronic sounds

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.399
<v Speaker 1>to various generally got short art films, like the work

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>of Ian Hugo. I believe he did some adaptations of

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>anis nin short stories, that sort of thing, So nothing

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that was at all mainstream Hollywood. And then here they

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:51.479
<v Speaker 1>are scoring the tonalities of Forbidden Planet, and I think, yeah,

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tremendous, but it is deeply weird and alien.

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>It is largely devoid of any melodic content. It just

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the sounds like twinkle like stars against the dark void.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>They drip like liquid metal and alien caves, and it

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:11.240
<v Speaker 1>just delivers an overwhelming vibe of just inhuman mystery. Which

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>works exceedingly well with various aspects of the plot and

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly the look of the picture. Maybe less so with

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the more hammy aspects of it, but to their credit,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody went in and added like goofy sound effects for

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the comedic moments. Like all the sound design we have

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:30.919
<v Speaker 1>there is exclusively sci fi.

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.879
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the kind of thing that to audiences

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 3>going back today feels less groundbreaking because we have experienced

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 3>a lot of what followed in its footsteps, and that

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 3>if we were to be there in nineteen fifty six,

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 3>we would probably recognize the sound of this movie as

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 3>being more we would recognize it for being how unique

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 3>in time it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it seems I can imagine people being

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 1>surprised though, because it at least, you know, to my ears,

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>it hits pretty hard. It seems it feels pretty far

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>removed from something like you know, some of the work

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>of say Wendy Carlos you would get a little over

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 1>a decade later, was like Switched on Bach Yeah, yeah,

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>very melodic but very electronic at the same time, and

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:21.240
<v Speaker 1>this is just like, yeah, this stuff is just alien.

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It does not have the human touch, And I love

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it for that, but it it seems like a minor

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>miracle that this score exists at all. It seems like

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly the sort of sort of score that some sort

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of producer would come along and say and say like,

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 1>we can't use this. You can use it when the

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>spaceship's landing. But let's let's get some stock music in

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>here so that the humans can connect with the plot.

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's too weird. Yeah, but no, they got away

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 3>with it, and I'm glad they did. All Right, you

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about the plot.

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the plot.

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Warning that this movie does have, in my opinion, some

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 3>pretty good twists and reveals in it, especially the ending,

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 3>and we are going to be talking about those. So

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 3>if you want to see it without having anything spoiled,

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I would suggest pausing and doing that now.

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But you're still here, so I guess it's okay.

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So opening monologue. I'm just going to read this

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 3>to set the tone. The voice over tells us, in

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the final decade of the twenty first century, men and

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 3>women in rocket ships landed on the Moon. Great start.

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you think we're going to make it to the

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 3>moon by the twenty nineties, by twenty two hundred AD,

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 3>they had reached the other planets of our Solar system

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 3>almost at once. There followed the discovery of hyperdrive, through

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 3>which the speed of light was first attained and later

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 3>greatly surpassed. And so at last mankind began the conquest

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 3>and colonization of deep space. United Planets. Cruiser C fifty

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 3>seven D now more than a year out from Earth

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 3>base on a special mission to the planetary system of

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:56.320
<v Speaker 3>the great main sequence star Altear And so it's showing

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 3>us the spaceship as it tells us what it is.

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 3>One thing I want to note here in Forbidden Planet,

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 3>the spaceship used by the human heroes is a flying saucer.

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 3>And I think this is notable because while the flying

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 3>saucer was absolutely well known in science fiction of the time,

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 3>it had already been used in multiple movies. I think

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 3>it was usually the form of ship used by non

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:28.280
<v Speaker 3>human aliens. More often, human ships are shown as elongated

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 3>and cylindrical, vaguely rocket shaped, or maybe they were shaped

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 3>like an airplane. I don't know if there is anything

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 3>to read into this choice as far as the intentions

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 3>of the filmmakers go, but at least to me, the

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 3>choice of putting humans inside the flying Saucer instead of

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 3>having that be the alien vessel, suggests that we are

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 3>the aliens, which is relevant to the movie in multiple ways.

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 3>One of these will be a spoiler, so again spoiler

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.720
<v Speaker 3>warning number one. Of course, in this story, the humans

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 3>are colonizing an ex soa planet far beyond Earth, So

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 3>we are the aliens in the scenario. We're not in

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.359
<v Speaker 3>our own cosmic neighborhood. But the other sense in which

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 3>humans are the aliens in this movie has to do

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 3>with the big twist at the end, the supposedly alien

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 3>force that is attacking the humans is not actually of

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:22.840
<v Speaker 3>alien origin but of human origin. And so anyway, I

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 3>was thinking about this for a bit. It made me

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 3>think it might be interesting at some point to come

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 3>back into a deep dive on the history of this

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 3>ship form, on the idea of the flying Saucer as

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 3>a shape, to kind of look at that in history

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>as far as like UFO reports go, and then also

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 3>in popular culture, but then also compare that to real

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, flying machine designs.

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm all for it. One quick note on

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 1>ship design again, this film was very influential on the

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate shape that star Trek would take. And it's

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>often pointed out that the stars the starship Inner is

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in many ways a disc based ship as well. It

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>is a flying saucer, but with other elements added to it,

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, with engines and the lower you know, engineering

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.319
<v Speaker 1>portion of the ship and all. But you know, it's

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:18.839
<v Speaker 1>mostly flying saucer, and part of that seems to come

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>from Forbidden Planet.

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of like a it's like a flying

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 3>saucer with a stem and legs.

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, I'm going to try to summarize the setup

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 3>of the film here. So, the crew of the uninspiringly

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 3>named C fifty seven D are on a mission to

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the planet all Tear four to investigate what happened to

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 3>a ship named the Beleerophon, which ventured out to the

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 3>planet twenty years prior. In command of this mission is

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 3>jj Adams, a by God rectangle. If we ever saw

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 3>one gruff tough, no nonsense, you'd really get the feeling

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 3>that he expects a rost ready when he gets home

0:55:56.080 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 3>from space. Yes. Yeah, So when the crew reached which

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.720
<v Speaker 3>is the vicinity of Altar four, they receive a radio

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 3>message from a man. It's a human voice he comes

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 3>on the radio and identifies himself as doctor Edward Morbius.

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 3>They check that against the manifest of the original mission,

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 3>and they verified that was part of the original crew.

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Morbius is supposed to be there, though curiously they note

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>that he was a philologist a language expert, which is

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 3>not exactly what you imagine in the landing party among

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 3>your geologists and exobiologists and engineers and so forth. Morbius

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:36.479
<v Speaker 3>warns them not to land. He says doing so would

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 3>put them in grave danger, but Adams is not deterred.

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 3>It's the mission, gentlemen. We've got a land So they

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 3>come and set down in the middle of this vast

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:51.320
<v Speaker 3>desert plain surrounded by jagged mountains. And oh, I love

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 3>love the design of the surface of Altaar four. Here

0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 3>there is a painted backdrop which has a green sky

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 3>and sort of different strata of clouds with multiple moons

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 3>in the background. I love the rocky mountains. But also

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.280
<v Speaker 3>this is not a barren, rocky planet, like we're looking

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 3>at a kind of desert plane. But different parts of

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 3>the planet have more vegetation, have strange looking trees and

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 3>brush and things like that.

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does just look absolutely terrific. You can just

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>imagine how sci fi fans of the time just probably

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 1>lost their mind when they'd seen this. You know, this

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>was you know, obviously this was before two thousand and

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>one a Space Odyssey, which you know, really set an

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 1>all new standard for what visions of a sci fi

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 1>future might look like in space. But man, it Forbidden

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Planet just looks amazing.

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.919
<v Speaker 3>So the crew lands on the surface, and I like, here,

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 3>how the different members of the crew have different reactions

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 3>to it, Like they debate how pleasant it is. One

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 3>person likes it, another person is put off and just

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 3>missing Earth. And so the crew they get out and

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 3>they are greeted by a robot whom they first see

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 3>hot rotting a buggy through the desert, like they just

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 3>see dust kicking up in the desert in the distance, like, Wow,

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 3>something's coming to meet us. And when it pulls up.

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 3>When they first got there, I couldn't remember exactly what

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 3>was happening. I was like, Oh, did they get attacked

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 3>by the monster this early? No, that's not It's just

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Robbie driving a buggy. He really looks like he would

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 3>be weighing down the front of this thing and making

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 3>it do I don't know whatever. The opposite of popping

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 3>a wheelie is like coming down in the front, but

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 3>somehow it stays. It stays on all four wheels, and

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 3>it arrives and sort of a cage opens in the

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 3>front and Robbie walks out, and oh boy, what a

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 3>vision he is. We've already talked about how much I

0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 3>like the design of Robbie the robot, but he the

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 3>meeting is a magical moment, and the crew were kind

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 3>of at a loss for words. He's like, you know,

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I am monitored to respond to the name Robbie. And

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 3>he tries to say, hey, if you don't speak English,

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I speak one hundred and eighty seven other

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 3>languages and there are various various sub tongues, and they're like,

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:14.919
<v Speaker 3>no English is okay? And they say hi to each other,

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 3>and we get a lot of kind of yuck yuck moments.

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 3>So with the more bumpkinny members of the crew trying

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 3>to figure out what to make of Robbie. Yeah, so

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Robbie takes Adams, his lieutenant Jerry Farman, and the ship's

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 3>doctor Doc Astro to the home of Edward Morbius, the

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 3>guy they talked to on the radio, and Morbius greets

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 3>them courteously and invites them in for lunch. Now, what

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 3>would you say is what's your read on Morbius when

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 3>we first meet him here?

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's very much a Captain Nemo sort of vibe,

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, this is a highly influential film

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>like it. You know, there are also elements like it

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.479
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of Alien Covenant a bit like, yeah, okay,

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.440
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a guy here and he seems to be

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 1>doing just on a world where everyone else is absolutely dead.

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Something here is us. But that being said, Morbius comes

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:11.680
<v Speaker 1>off very pleasant, you know, in his his crib is

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:16.040
<v Speaker 1>just luxurious. I love the blast curtains that the oh,

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>stop motion blast curtains that he demonstrates. I mean, so

1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>he wins us over with charm, but you know, remains suspicious.

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the blast curtains you're talking about. There's like an

1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 3>open design of the house. It's one of those mid

1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:32.280
<v Speaker 3>century kind of West Coast designs where it's all glass

1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:35.520
<v Speaker 3>walls all around or loose sight maybe. But then yeah,

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.280
<v Speaker 3>suddenly he can like snap his fingers or press a

1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 3>button and all of the windows get replaced with like

1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:41.919
<v Speaker 3>solid lead.

1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, which is which is created via some sort

1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 1>of a stop motion approach. But it looks really good,

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I totally buy this as as a technology.

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.800
<v Speaker 3>So they get to know each other here over a

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 3>over a pleasant lunch, and we learn about Robbie. We

1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 3>learned that Robbie is immensely strong, uh, and that he

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:03.200
<v Speaker 3>has the power to synthesize any object or material that

1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:06.320
<v Speaker 3>he analyzes in his sort of male slot mouth in

1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:09.800
<v Speaker 3>his chest. I think we correct me if I'm wrong,

1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:12.720
<v Speaker 3>But it sort of suggested that the delicious food they

1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 3>just ate was somehow extruded out of Robbie's holes.

1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess so. Yeah.

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:20.440
<v Speaker 3>And also we learned, I think, in borrowing from some

1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:24.760
<v Speaker 3>other science fiction, that Robbie has some of the laws

1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 3>of robotics written into him, like that Isaac Asimov, Susan

1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Calvin robopsychology stories, the laws of robotics. So Morbius demonstrates,

1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:37.840
<v Speaker 3>for example, that Robbie cannot harm a human by and

1:01:37.960 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 3>he demonstrates this in a great way. He's like, mister Adams,

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:43.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, give me your gun, and he takes it.

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:46.440
<v Speaker 3>He puts it in Robbie's hand first, as Robbie zap

1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:49.480
<v Speaker 3>a plant in their garden, and then he's like, Okay,

1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:53.320
<v Speaker 3>point the blaster at Commander Adams and kill him. But

1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Robbie can't do it. He starts to sizzle and fry.

1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:59.560
<v Speaker 3>All these like purple sparks shoot inside his head. And

1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:03.400
<v Speaker 3>this is caused by a contradiction between receiving the order

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 3>which he is supposed to follow and his inability to

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.560
<v Speaker 3>harm anyone. And he just stands there, frozen in that

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:10.760
<v Speaker 3>state until Morbius says, canceled the order.

1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they're very forgiving of doctor Morbius's terrifying demonstration

1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of power.

1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I would say we also get the impression that Morbius

1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.400
<v Speaker 3>is not too happy about this visit from the crew.

1:02:25.560 --> 1:02:29.000
<v Speaker 3>He is not rude to them, but he says, for

1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:32.480
<v Speaker 3>one of the lines, is how ironic that a simple

1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:36.760
<v Speaker 3>scholar with no ambition beyond a modest measure of seclusion, should,

1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:39.600
<v Speaker 3>out of the clear sky find himself besieged by an

1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:43.760
<v Speaker 3>army of fellow creatures, all grimly determined to be of service.

1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But Adams is like, we've got to do it

1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:49.160
<v Speaker 1>by the book, you know, We've got to stick around,

1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and then we have to follow up.

1:02:50.880 --> 1:03:06.000
<v Speaker 3>The mission, so we learn what happened to the rest

1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:09.520
<v Speaker 3>of the crew the original crew of the Bellerophon. Morbius

1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:12.400
<v Speaker 3>tells the story of how after they landed and began

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<v Speaker 3>to explore the planet, something started going wrong, something started happening. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 3>every other member of the crew was murdered, literally torn

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<v Speaker 3>limb from limb by what he calls an invisible planetary force,

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<v Speaker 3>and when a certain group of the only survivors who

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<v Speaker 3>were left, say for Morbius, tried to flee the planet

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<v Speaker 3>in their spaceship, that ship was obliterated upon takeoff. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Morbius himself has no idea what the force was, but

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<v Speaker 3>it seems he is somehow immune to it, as is

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<v Speaker 3>surprise we find out about his twenty year old daughter, Altara,

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<v Speaker 3>who was born right after their arrival on the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Altara's mother was another scientist of the original Billerophon Crewe.

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<v Speaker 3>She and Morbius fell in love and married on the

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<v Speaker 3>way to the planet, but unfortunately, Altera's mother also died,

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<v Speaker 3>though she died of natural causes. So whatever it was

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<v Speaker 3>that literally ripped apart the bodies of the other members

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<v Speaker 3>of the crew, for some reason, it has never tried

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<v Speaker 3>to harm Morbius or his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is also deeply suspicious. And when we meet Altaria again,

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen the film before, so it's like, is

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<v Speaker 1>she she a space vampire? She is she a robot?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she an evil destructive force? I was trusting neither

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<v Speaker 1>of these two. Really.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't know what to make of her at first,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially because it seems Morbius was hoping to keep

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<v Speaker 3>Altara's existence a secret from Adams and the crew. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like he was trying to hide her. And when she

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<v Speaker 3>becomes her existence becomes revealed, he's like, oh no, She.

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<v Speaker 1>Like wanders out, like it's past her bedtime, and like

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<v Speaker 1>guests have come over, and it's like, oh, honey, go

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<v Speaker 1>back to bed, and it may be you go. There

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<v Speaker 1>are at least a couple of scenes where she is

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<v Speaker 1>told to go to bed by yeah, the male characters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, So we already talked about Altara how she

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<v Speaker 3>is at once brilliant and naive, like she you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she is schooled in all of the arts and sciences,

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<v Speaker 3>but she has no experience dealing with human society. She's

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<v Speaker 3>also kind of like snow White in that she has

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<v Speaker 3>animal friends like it's deer and a tiger and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that run out of the garden and just hang out

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<v Speaker 3>with her. And the tiger represents no threat. When it

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<v Speaker 3>first shows up, Adams is like pulling out his gun,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're like no, no, no, wait, watch and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it just wants to hang. So Adams and the rest

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<v Speaker 3>offered to take Morbius and Altera home to Earth, but

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<v Speaker 3>Morbius has no desire to go. And after this there's

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of technical work that has to be done

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't remember exactly what the deal is. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the crew of the ship has to build like

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<v Speaker 3>a faster than light radio transmitter to communicate with Earth

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<v Speaker 3>and find out what their orders are or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there's something in stalls them. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little time to meander about and get into trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, time for kissing lessons. So here's where we get

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<v Speaker 3>to that portion of the story. Essentially, Altara is she's

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<v Speaker 3>very interested in all of the young men who have

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<v Speaker 3>arrived on this ship, and many of this the men

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<v Speaker 3>on the ship are interested in hers. Some of the

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<v Speaker 3>lovelorn dudes and the crew get obsessed with Altara. She's

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<v Speaker 3>known as Alta for short, by the way, so that

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of confusing at first. But sometimes Morbies is

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<v Speaker 3>calling her Alta, and there is a scene where Jerry Farman,

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<v Speaker 3>the lieutenant sort of Adams's number two, takes Alta for

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<v Speaker 3>a walk on the planet's surface and they sort of

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<v Speaker 3>wander into the forest and he ends up trying to

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<v Speaker 3>convince her that he needs to teach her how to

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<v Speaker 3>kiss so that she can be in proper health, because

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<v Speaker 3>you need to kiss in order to be healthy. This

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<v Speaker 3>scene is both pretty cringey but also, as I was

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<v Speaker 3>mentioning earlier, kind of funny because Alta does say these

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<v Speaker 3>like really cutting things at him. She's like, isn't this

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be stimulating? I don't find it remarkable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And in the middle of all this, Adams catches them

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<v Speaker 3>and so he chews out Jerry, but then he also

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<v Speaker 3>gets super flustered and he criticizes Alta for wearing revealing clothes,

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<v Speaker 3>and in one funny note, adams freak out here contains

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<v Speaker 3>a rant about like how attractive and sext up his

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<v Speaker 3>men are. Yeah, He's like, all of my crew members

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<v Speaker 3>are the prizest specimens of twenty four year old men

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth. But I was thinking, like, even Cook, is

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<v Speaker 3>that what he thinks about Cook?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Cook is in a supporting role.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no offense to the looks of Cook. I just

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<v Speaker 3>mean like, is he the best Earth has at cooking?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we didn't know this was a breeding mission, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly so. Anyway, but Altara, after this, goes home and

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<v Speaker 3>co miss Robbie to make her a new dress that

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<v Speaker 3>will cover her whole body. Of course, we will see

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<v Speaker 3>that dress later, and it also looks beautiful. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a Greek goddess kind of address. But interesting things

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<v Speaker 3>in the scene, like the uncomfortable sexual politics of it. Aside,

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<v Speaker 3>the scene is interesting because it is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>I think Alta's first real experience with the rest of humanity,

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<v Speaker 3>with people who would judge her unfairly, with people who

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<v Speaker 3>would lie to her and treat her unkindly, with people

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<v Speaker 3>who would exploit and take advantage of her. She's coming

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<v Speaker 3>into collision with human nature after having grown up in

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<v Speaker 3>what's presented as a sort of perfect bubble of cool, detached, trustworthy,

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<v Speaker 3>scholarly enlightenment, and she's learning that human nature has a

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<v Speaker 3>dark and bestial side as well. Meanwhile, things also start

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<v Speaker 3>going wrong at the ship. In the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 3>something invisible sneaks into the ship. And I love the

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<v Speaker 3>special effects in these nighttime sneaking scenes, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>But something sneaks into the ship and sabotages the equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so already we're getting little invisible attacks that

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<v Speaker 1>are sabotaging the ship, keeping it from leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. The next day, Adams goes to the home of

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<v Speaker 3>Morbius and Alta to apologize to Alta for one thing,

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<v Speaker 3>for his behavior the day before. He sort of realizes

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<v Speaker 3>he was in the wrong, and when he arrives, Alta

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<v Speaker 3>is swimming naked in the pool and Adams gets all

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<v Speaker 3>super flustered again. He's like, oh uh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what to do. But in a scene after this, it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes clear that they are both interested in each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and Alta kisses Adams, and while they are kissing, they

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<v Speaker 3>are suddenly attacked by Alta's tiger friend. The tiger they

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<v Speaker 3>saw earlier that was so friendly and you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>not a threat at all, appears on a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>ledge above them and then leaps at them, claws out

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<v Speaker 3>as if ready to attack. Adams just at the last

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<v Speaker 3>second has to zapf it with his phaser gun, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, there's this feeling Alta has of how why,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the tiger had never tried to harm her before

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<v Speaker 3>and suddenly it has turned hostile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something has changed. And this was also I was

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<v Speaker 1>really shocked by this scene when the tiger was completely

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<v Speaker 1>annihilated in mid air by the laser gun, absolutely disintegrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Now from here we move on to a big reveal

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<v Speaker 3>and a sequence of a lot of the best sets

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<v Speaker 3>and special effects shots in the movie. Morbius comes to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to Adams and doctor Ostro. Astro was like along

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<v Speaker 3>for the whole time, so just hanging out for the

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<v Speaker 3>kissing and the tiger killing. But Morbius comes to tell

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<v Speaker 3>Adams and Astro about the secrets of the planet, the

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<v Speaker 3>main secret being that All Tai four was once inhabited

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<v Speaker 3>by an extremely technologically advanced species of alien known as

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<v Speaker 3>the Krell. And here I'm going to read Morbius's monologue

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<v Speaker 3>about the Krell. He says, in times long past, this

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<v Speaker 3>planet was the home of a mighty and noble race

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<v Speaker 3>of beings which called themselves the Krell. Ethically as well

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<v Speaker 3>as technologically, they were a million years ahead of humankind,

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<v Speaker 3>for in unlocking the mysteries of nature, they had conquered

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<v Speaker 3>even their baser selves. And when in the course of

1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:31.600
<v Speaker 3>eons they had abolished sickness and insanity, and crime and

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<v Speaker 3>all injustice, they turned still with high benevolence outward towards space.

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<v Speaker 3>Long before the dawn of man's history, they had walked

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<v Speaker 3>our earth and brought back many biological specimens like the

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<v Speaker 3>tiger exactly he goes on the heights they had reached.

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<v Speaker 3>But then, seemingly on the threshold of some supreme accomplishment

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<v Speaker 3>which was to have crowned their entire history, this all

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<v Speaker 3>but divine race perished in a single night. In the

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand centuries since that unexplained catastrophe, even their cloud

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<v Speaker 3>piercing towers of glass and porcelain and adamantine steel have

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<v Speaker 3>crumbled back into the soil of all Ta four, and nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely nothing remains above ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're getting into some pretty ambitious science fiction here.

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<v Speaker 1>Reminds me a bit of the various Sublime civilizations and

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<v Speaker 1>Ian m Banks culture series civilizations that advanced to a

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<v Speaker 1>state where they end up leaving our dimension of space

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<v Speaker 1>and time for higher dimensions, generally leaving behind a great

1:12:38.800 --> 1:12:42.400
<v Speaker 1>deal of technology that's now redundant to them. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in this scenario, it sounds like the Krell might

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<v Speaker 1>have been on the cusp of subliming, of moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>and then something terrible kept them from not only kept

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<v Speaker 1>them from moving on to this next level level of existence,

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<v Speaker 1>but also just eradicated them entirely, and all we have

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<v Speaker 1>left are the technological depths of the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, when we get a tour of these technological depths,

1:13:07.360 --> 1:13:10.040
<v Speaker 3>a tour of their underground facilities, and again I can't

1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:15.639
<v Speaker 3>emphasize enough how amazing these sets and special effects are.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are like paintings are just amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so good. So they go through like a

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<v Speaker 3>giant underground power plant that they say is a huge

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<v Speaker 3>buried cube running something that's like twenty miles in every direction,

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<v Speaker 3>which we see them. They're crossing this great chasm on

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<v Speaker 3>a little suspension bridge, and we see these things moving

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<v Speaker 3>up and down the chasm and electricity arcing through it. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a device they come across. They go to

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<v Speaker 3>this essentially Krell schoolhouse, where there is a device that

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<v Speaker 3>the Crell used to train the brains of their young,

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<v Speaker 3>and Morbius explains when this device is used by humans

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<v Speaker 3>it is almost always fatal, but if you can use

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<v Speaker 3>it and survive, it will double your IQ. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>how Morby has got so smart. By the way he

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<v Speaker 3>increased his intelligence with the machine, I guess he started

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<v Speaker 3>off pretty smart, though he's humble about it, but then

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, you know, I took my normal, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my middling intellect when I first got here, and I

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<v Speaker 3>doubled it with this machine. Everybody else who tried it

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<v Speaker 3>was killed. But by surviving that process himself, that allowed

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<v Speaker 3>him to decipher the Krell histories and figure out parts

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<v Speaker 3>of Krell technology and to for example, a symbol Robbie

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<v Speaker 3>the robot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's explained as well that this maybe not the device itself,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's an element of the device that is like

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<v Speaker 1>a high striker a strong man game from your fare

1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:46.559
<v Speaker 1>or carnival, you know, where you hit a circle with

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer or mallet as hard as you can and

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<v Speaker 1>then it causes this little float be ley to go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to rise up and with your brain, but

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<v Speaker 1>with your brain. Yeah, so it's it's the smart man game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I like Striker. They put Leslie Nielsen on

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<v Speaker 3>it and he can barely get the thing to go off,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, well that's you know, it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 3>brains to command a starship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Massive dig on Adams here.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, after learning about all this stuff that this like power,

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<v Speaker 3>this underground power plant that can generate generate what seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be an infinite amount of energy, and this brain

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<v Speaker 3>boosting machine, Adams says, you know what, this changes everything

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<v Speaker 3>Earth has to know about these devices. But Morbius resists.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I think this is what he was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to hide from them before. He's like, humans are not

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<v Speaker 3>ready for this kind of power, and this technology may

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<v Speaker 3>have been what wiped out the Krell, but if so,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah again, because the Krell were millions of years ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of humans and something tripped them up in their dizzying

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<v Speaker 1>ascent with this technology, So we're clearly not ready for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we do something on the B plot here about

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<v Speaker 3>cook and the synth synthesis of whiskey?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this is so you set

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<v Speaker 1>this one up so you know cook, I guess in

1:16:08.000 --> 1:16:10.879
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the you know, you know, old fashioned

1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:14.400
<v Speaker 1>US military sense of these kind of plot developments. He's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to acquire some local ingredients and also find like

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<v Speaker 1>local illicit sources of hooch for cooking, but also clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not for cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I need to go out and look for

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<v Speaker 3>some wild radishes. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and basically what he runs into Robbie the robot,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hey, I need some more of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And he shows him like a mostly empty flask of whiskey,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robbie grabs it shoots it back into his mail slot,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cook is like, well, well that was my last twig.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you do that? And Robbie's like, I will

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<v Speaker 1>now synthesize this for you. Will let you say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>will sixty gallons be sufficient?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1:16:58.520 --> 1:16:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And then Cook comes back later and there's there's like

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<v Speaker 3>a giant pyramid of heights of whiskey in their own

1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:07.960
<v Speaker 3>individual glass bottles.

1:17:08.520 --> 1:17:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And somehow Cook doesn't die at this moment, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like later on in like in speculative media, like

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<v Speaker 1>this would be the moment where the monster comes and

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<v Speaker 1>kills him, you know, where he's like, I have all

1:17:21.680 --> 1:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the whiskey in the world. What could possibly go wrong,

1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:28.080
<v Speaker 1>instant monster death booze enough at last, yes, exactly, but

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<v Speaker 1>now Cook will survive a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 3>So another thing that happens at this point in the

1:17:33.040 --> 1:17:37.360
<v Speaker 3>story is that the attacks on the ship become much

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<v Speaker 3>more severe. What we got in the first attack by

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<v Speaker 3>the Invisible Force at night was just the sabotaging of equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>But this escalates to in one instance, murder. I believe

1:17:48.000 --> 1:17:52.040
<v Speaker 3>the communications officer Quinn is found murder. Did they say?

1:17:52.640 --> 1:17:54.920
<v Speaker 3>They describe it in a quite grizzly way. I think

1:17:54.960 --> 1:17:57.479
<v Speaker 3>they say he smeared all over the walls of the

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<v Speaker 3>communication room. And after that they set up a perimeter.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what we should do sometime on the show

1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:07.479
<v Speaker 3>is we should set up a list of the best

1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:09.479
<v Speaker 3>establishing a perimeter scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, beca, isn't it? This is pretty good though, I mean,

1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the the technology is convincing, and yeah, everyone left, I

1:18:18.680 --> 1:18:21.080
<v Speaker 1>mean it really This also reminded me of what would

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<v Speaker 1>come much later with Aliens with you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, is it? You know it's inside the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm reading it's reading right, and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very similar what happens here. In fact, I

1:18:32.720 --> 1:18:35.639
<v Speaker 3>almost feel like that that scene in Aliens. It feels

1:18:35.720 --> 1:18:36.680
<v Speaker 3>like a callback to this.

1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they establish a perimeter and eventually this creature, this

1:18:50.120 --> 1:18:53.479
<v Speaker 3>invisible creature comes in a brazen frontal attack where the

1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:56.960
<v Speaker 3>crew are resisting with big energy weapons, these big beam

1:18:57.040 --> 1:19:02.080
<v Speaker 3>weapons and then handheld a laser rifle. And when the thing,

1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:06.000
<v Speaker 3>when the invisible creature gets illuminated by all of the

1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:09.679
<v Speaker 3>energy weapons that are hitting it, we suddenly see pieces

1:19:09.800 --> 1:19:13.760
<v Speaker 3>of its form and yeah, it's oh, it's frightening. I mean,

1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I've read things that, like, I think the producers were

1:19:17.040 --> 1:19:20.960
<v Speaker 3>worried that this would be so frightening that like it

1:19:21.000 --> 1:19:24.120
<v Speaker 3>would be it would make the movie inappropriate for younger audiences.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can see why. It's a truly scary thing

1:19:27.920 --> 1:19:31.080
<v Speaker 3>that they conjure up. It's like a kind of a

1:19:31.200 --> 1:19:37.400
<v Speaker 3>ram lion bulldog monster with sort of horns or something,

1:19:37.439 --> 1:19:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and it's made out of flames.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. To compare it to things that would come much

1:19:42.000 --> 1:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>later and may have been each in their own way,

1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>or at least in their visualization on screen, been inspired by.

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<v Speaker 1>This reminds me a bit of the ball Rog, reminds

1:19:50.360 --> 1:19:52.519
<v Speaker 1>me a bit of the Red Bull from the last unicorn.

1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:19:53.400 --> 1:19:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, and Jerry Farman, the lieutenant who is trying

1:19:57.400 --> 1:19:59.559
<v Speaker 3>to do the kissing lessons, he gets killed in one

1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:00.400
<v Speaker 3>of these attacks.

1:20:00.800 --> 1:20:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Eventually Cook does too, right, Cook's taken out by

1:20:04.240 --> 1:20:04.679
<v Speaker 1>the monster.

1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:07.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh is he? I didn't remember that? How could they

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<v Speaker 3>do that to Cook?

1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank god he's secured all that whiskey first.

1:20:14.920 --> 1:20:17.640
<v Speaker 3>But during this attack we start to get an indication

1:20:18.760 --> 1:20:22.240
<v Speaker 3>of where this alien monster is coming from, because we

1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:25.960
<v Speaker 3>cut away in the middle of the attack to Morbius,

1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:28.679
<v Speaker 3>who is sleeping in his home. I think he's fallen

1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:33.439
<v Speaker 3>asleep on his desk and he is maybe having a nightmare.

1:20:34.000 --> 1:20:37.040
<v Speaker 3>And at one point suddenly he snaps awake in his

1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.479
<v Speaker 3>home and then at the other end of the planet,

1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:41.599
<v Speaker 3>not the other end of the planet, but away where

1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the monster is attacking, it suddenly vanishes. Oh oh. So

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<v Speaker 3>after this attack, Adams goes back to the Morbius and

1:20:52.240 --> 1:20:55.519
<v Speaker 3>Altara house to try to get I think the reason

1:20:55.600 --> 1:20:57.760
<v Speaker 3>is he wants Altara to leave the planet with him.

1:20:57.840 --> 1:21:00.320
<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know, this monster is attacking. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to go now, and for your own safety you should

1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:02.880
<v Speaker 3>come with me.

1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Plus we're in love. Now this is meant to be

1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you've got to run away with me.

1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And to be clear, it seems reciprocal, like she's

1:21:11.479 --> 1:21:12.520
<v Speaker 3>very into him.

1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's that's part of you know, this part

1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:17.679
<v Speaker 1>of the split that's going on here is that now

1:21:18.320 --> 1:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>she is more she is attracted to the outside world,

1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the world of Adams, the world of Earth, and wants

1:21:26.000 --> 1:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>to leave. I mean, she wants to bring her father

1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>with her if possible, but she is also ready to

1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:34.719
<v Speaker 1>leave her father's home, her father's world for the first time.

1:21:35.240 --> 1:21:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I think when so, Adams and Astro go to the house,

1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:41.599
<v Speaker 3>and when they first get there, Robbie's trying to block

1:21:41.640 --> 1:21:44.080
<v Speaker 3>their way. He's like, I am monitored, not to permit you.

1:21:44.160 --> 1:21:46.400
<v Speaker 3>But they're kind of discussing, like what's he gonna do.

1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:48.760
<v Speaker 3>He can't hurt us, so I think we could. But

1:21:48.800 --> 1:21:51.759
<v Speaker 3>then we never see that tested, right, because eventually Altara

1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:53.880
<v Speaker 3>shows up and is like, cancel the order, let them in.

1:21:54.360 --> 1:21:56.400
<v Speaker 3>But I was curious about that. It's like, Okay, if

1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:58.400
<v Speaker 3>he can't hurt them, could they couldn't they just force

1:21:58.439 --> 1:21:59.640
<v Speaker 3>their way past him?

1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, though he is he's bulky.

1:22:02.040 --> 1:22:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true anyway. So, uh So, now we have

1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Adams and Ostro in the in the Morbius home and

1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:14.280
<v Speaker 3>at some point here Astro sneaks away because, oh, because

1:22:14.320 --> 1:22:17.200
<v Speaker 3>this is another part of their plan. They're like, we've

1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:19.519
<v Speaker 3>got to find a way to defeat this monster. So

1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:22.599
<v Speaker 3>either Adams or Astro, one of them needs to use

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<v Speaker 3>the brain enhancer machine, which you know they have learned

1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:28.639
<v Speaker 3>will probably kill you, but if you can survive it,

1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:30.760
<v Speaker 3>it'll make you super smart, and they think they will

1:22:30.800 --> 1:22:35.240
<v Speaker 3>need those extra smarts in order to survive. Well. While

1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:38.120
<v Speaker 3>they're hanging out, Robbie, Robbie at some point, like comes

1:22:38.160 --> 1:22:41.759
<v Speaker 3>in carrying the body of Astro and it's like, uh, oh,

1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:44.439
<v Speaker 3>he tried to he tried to get smart. Bad move.

1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:47.240
<v Speaker 1>And this is an example of a scene that I

1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:49.599
<v Speaker 1>wish we could have seen like this would have This

1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is a highly dramatic moment for this character, and it

1:22:53.680 --> 1:22:57.559
<v Speaker 1>occurs entirely off screen. They're like, oh, by the way,

1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>he did it. He plugged in and now he's done.

1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:02.360
<v Speaker 1>But we do get some final last words.

1:23:02.880 --> 1:23:06.080
<v Speaker 3>His final last words are solve the riddle. Solve the

1:23:06.200 --> 1:23:09.960
<v Speaker 3>riddle of the movie. So by increasing his intelligence, he

1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:13.200
<v Speaker 3>did doom himself to death, but he also was able

1:23:13.240 --> 1:23:16.840
<v Speaker 3>to understand what happened to the Krell and how it's

1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:19.599
<v Speaker 3>still affecting them now. So it turns out the big

1:23:19.640 --> 1:23:25.280
<v Speaker 3>reveal is this giant underground power plant was created for

1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:30.439
<v Speaker 3>the purpose of essentially doing a way with all need

1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:36.920
<v Speaker 3>for mechanical labor and mechanical devices and instead would allow

1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:42.600
<v Speaker 3>any of the Krell to make a physical reality manifest

1:23:42.800 --> 1:23:46.559
<v Speaker 3>simply by thinking about it. So you can interface with

1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:51.720
<v Speaker 3>this giant machine and it will interpret your thoughts and

1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:58.040
<v Speaker 3>then manifest those thoughts as physical atoms and energy, which

1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:00.880
<v Speaker 3>sounds great. Okay, it's just like in it free energy

1:24:00.920 --> 1:24:03.680
<v Speaker 3>and labor. You know, you can all want all kind

1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:07.040
<v Speaker 3>of problems. Material problems are done away with, right.

1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if the rational mind can imagine it, then it

1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>is real and it is in action.

1:24:12.280 --> 1:24:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Except the problem is what the Crell did not foresee

1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:19.639
<v Speaker 3>and what Ostro figures out happened to them is it's

1:24:19.680 --> 1:24:22.639
<v Speaker 3>not only the rational mind that's in the driver's seat now, baby,

1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Both the rational mind and the sort of the ego,

1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:30.800
<v Speaker 3>the rational mind and the base desires of the ID

1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:34.120
<v Speaker 3>are hooked up to this machine, and so it began

1:24:34.360 --> 1:24:39.960
<v Speaker 3>manifesting the Krell's unconscious or subconscious thoughts and desires as well.

1:24:40.400 --> 1:24:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Everything that they knew they shouldn't do, but deep down

1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:48.160
<v Speaker 3>secretly wanted that was manifest as well, and so what

1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:52.439
<v Speaker 3>that turned into was the slaughter and extermination of their

1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:53.560
<v Speaker 3>entire people.

1:24:53.920 --> 1:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>All the demons of the mind unleashed on the planet

1:24:57.479 --> 1:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>with infinite power backing them up. Yeah, yeah, it's it's amazing, Like,

1:25:02.280 --> 1:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this is such a Again, when this movie goes hard

1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>on its genre elements, it's really spectacular.

1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I agree, it's a great premise, and it not to

1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:17.479
<v Speaker 3>spoil it by saying this, but I realized I came

1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:19.920
<v Speaker 3>to these in backwards order. But when I was younger,

1:25:19.960 --> 1:25:23.439
<v Speaker 3>I read the books Fear by Michael Crichton, which essentially

1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:27.120
<v Speaker 3>has the same premise. It's like they come across alien

1:25:27.160 --> 1:25:30.519
<v Speaker 3>technology that can make your thoughts manifest, but then they

1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:34.479
<v Speaker 3>realize like, oh, it's also making subconscious thoughts manifest. So

1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:38.360
<v Speaker 3>everybody's anxieties and fears are like becoming physical objects that

1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:43.360
<v Speaker 3>are attacking them. And so in fact, what the characters

1:25:43.400 --> 1:25:46.200
<v Speaker 3>discover here and Forbidden Planet is not only is that

1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:49.599
<v Speaker 3>what happened to the Krell, it's still operating that way,

1:25:50.200 --> 1:25:55.440
<v Speaker 3>and so it is taking the subconscious fears and desires

1:25:55.560 --> 1:26:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and complexes of doctor Morbius, who has linked his brain

1:26:01.000 --> 1:26:04.839
<v Speaker 3>to the machine by by using it uh and making

1:26:04.920 --> 1:26:09.360
<v Speaker 3>those manifest and in fact, not all of the links

1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:12.680
<v Speaker 3>are fully spelled out, but it's sort of suggesting the

1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:15.880
<v Speaker 3>idea that like, he doesn't want to go back to Earth.

1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:18.320
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want Altera to go back to Earth. He

1:26:18.360 --> 1:26:23.320
<v Speaker 3>doesn't want the corrupting influence of Earth to to change

1:26:23.360 --> 1:26:26.479
<v Speaker 3>his daughter, to sort of like corrupt the perfect, precious

1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:30.000
<v Speaker 3>existence he has created for them. And you know, you

1:26:30.000 --> 1:26:32.720
<v Speaker 3>can kind of understand why. You can see how Alta's

1:26:32.760 --> 1:26:37.120
<v Speaker 3>first encounter with the broader human kind involved like, you know,

1:26:37.240 --> 1:26:40.439
<v Speaker 3>some dudes being creeps to her. Yeah, so you can

1:26:40.479 --> 1:26:43.240
<v Speaker 3>see where his desires to kind of like just create

1:26:43.240 --> 1:26:45.280
<v Speaker 3>a bubble and live in it with his family and

1:26:46.400 --> 1:26:49.640
<v Speaker 3>live in that protective bubble without any without any intrusion

1:26:50.360 --> 1:26:53.880
<v Speaker 3>where that desire comes from. But it is manifesting as

1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:57.320
<v Speaker 3>the creation of a violent monster that lashes out to

1:26:57.479 --> 1:26:59.920
<v Speaker 3>kill anything that threatens to puncture the bubble.

1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now that we know what the monster is,

1:27:04.960 --> 1:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it is coming for our main characters, and it is

1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>we realize inexorable. It is unstoppable. And this just leads

1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:16.479
<v Speaker 1>to like an avalanche of scenes that are are really

1:27:16.720 --> 1:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>highly effective.

1:27:17.840 --> 1:27:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, And I like the way that it really

1:27:20.200 --> 1:27:22.920
<v Speaker 3>does make sense taken given the premise of the story,

1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:25.599
<v Speaker 3>because you might think, well, couldn't he just call it off?

1:27:26.200 --> 1:27:29.559
<v Speaker 3>But as anybody who's ever had like a panic attack, no,

1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:34.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can know rationally that the thing that

1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>you are afraid of is not something you should be

1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:40.439
<v Speaker 3>afraid of, it's not a real threat, and yet you

1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:43.640
<v Speaker 3>still just can't make your subconscious mind give in. The

1:27:43.680 --> 1:27:46.919
<v Speaker 3>subconscious is resistant to rational control.

1:27:47.600 --> 1:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so he can't call it off. He can't

1:27:50.160 --> 1:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>control it. It is. It is coming no matter what,

1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and even like knowing what it is doesn't give him

1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>power over it, which you know, matches up with some

1:27:58.400 --> 1:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of these you know, states to the mind as we

1:28:01.920 --> 1:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>experience them as well. I mean, sometimes knowing can help,

1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:07.479
<v Speaker 1>and that can be part of the tools of controlling

1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>things like anxiety in some cases. But but but yeah,

1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>not not necessarily at all.

1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:15.760
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of interesting things that happen in

1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>the climax here, Like at one point they try to

1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:22.080
<v Speaker 3>command Robbie the robot to kill the monster that's attacking

1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:26.200
<v Speaker 3>them in the house. But Robbie, knowing that the monster

1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:30.559
<v Speaker 3>is a manifestation of a human mind, can't can't hurt it,

1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:32.639
<v Speaker 3>right because he can't hurt a human.

1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's excellent. And it just leads them to

1:28:36.280 --> 1:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>they have to like start retreating through these various levels

1:28:39.200 --> 1:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of protection, so the for instance, the homes, combat shades

1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>come up, and of course the doors, yeah, the blast doors,

1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and the monster makes pretty quick work of that. And

1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>they have to retreat into the into the Krell sub

1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:56.639
<v Speaker 1>surface chambers, and they have all those really cool doors

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<v Speaker 1>to move behind and the locking mechanism, but even that

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to keep the monster at bay. And

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<v Speaker 1>we get this terrific scene where the monster is like

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<v Speaker 1>literally melting its way through the door.

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<v Speaker 3>And we see the power plant. There's like a readout

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<v Speaker 3>engine on this showing how much energy is being directed

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<v Speaker 3>into the machine that this alien power plant is generating.

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<v Speaker 3>And earlier we were seeing things happen where there's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty lights lined up and only the first

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<v Speaker 3>one is barely lighting. But when the monster's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get through the door, we see it like lighting up

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<v Speaker 3>all the way more and more, and like the energy

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<v Speaker 3>produced is limitless, and they realize, like, it's just not

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<v Speaker 3>going to stop now. I think finally, Morbius was resistant

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<v Speaker 3>to the idea at first that he was the one

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<v Speaker 3>creating the monster, but he eventually comes to accept it

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<v Speaker 3>and then sort of gets in the path of the monster,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think as he is fatally injured by it,

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of like makes it demateialized for the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like he stands up to it, he basically has

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<v Speaker 1>a you shall not pass moment. But yeah, at that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he still can't overpower it, and it manages

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<v Speaker 1>to fatally injure him in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so at that point they somehow they end

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<v Speaker 3>up setting a self destruct thing for the entire planet.

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<v Speaker 3>You have ten minutes to reach minimum safe distance. They

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<v Speaker 3>set up a self destruct for the planet, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Adams and Altara have to escape back to the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and I think Robbie comes with them, doesn't he

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<v Speaker 3>as Robbie comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Robbie gets to come along for

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<v Speaker 1>the ride.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fair trade. I mean, like they made the

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<v Speaker 3>right decision to set the self destruct, like such a

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<v Speaker 3>such a technology that makes all our thoughts manifest that

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way that can be wielded correctly. You just

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<v Speaker 3>just had to be destroyed. Can't be good. But Robbie,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Robbie's he's good tech. You can bring

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<v Speaker 3>him with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his programming is sound, and so yeah, he's a board.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a moment where the surviving crew members there

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<v Speaker 1>witness the destruction of the planet from Afar, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird because Adams is like, there it goes

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<v Speaker 1>your dad's on that planet or what's left of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's like, well, yes, obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>And the ending line I remember is a little Hokia.

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<v Speaker 3>He has basically a he tampered in God's domain statement,

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<v Speaker 3>I think. But also there's a good observation where they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what the Crell achieved is not unique to

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<v Speaker 3>the Krell. Maybe someday long in the future, humans will

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<v Speaker 3>achieve the same level of technology and then we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>facing the same problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is a valid point. We see this

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<v Speaker 1>in sci fi time and time again. It remains pretty accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is that our technological achievements tend to outstrip

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<v Speaker 1>our ability to control ourselves regarding that technology at a

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<v Speaker 1>personal level or at like a you know, governmental level.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a plea for a kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>regulatory or limiting consciousness about technology before it's achieved. It's

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<v Speaker 3>recognizing that the story of the Krell is literally people

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<v Speaker 3>achieving a power to do something before they've fully thought

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<v Speaker 3>through what it would mean to have that power, and

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<v Speaker 3>then of course it destroys them. And this is something

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen happen again again in technological history. People figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to do something before they've thought through all

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<v Speaker 3>of the ways in which it could be used for

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<v Speaker 3>ill and should thus be constrained or constrained to the

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<v Speaker 3>extent that it could be constrained. I mean, some things

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<v Speaker 3>are really hard to constrain, but you know, to whatever

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<v Speaker 3>extent we have the power to. And so, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to become like the Krell. We should think

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<v Speaker 3>hard about how technological creations could go wrong before we

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<v Speaker 3>create them. It's kind of a plea for science fiction. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>that's forbidden Planet.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the Forbidden Planet. And yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was an absolute delight. I highly recommend checking this one

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<v Speaker 1>out if you've managed to not see it thus far.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said before, sometimes the these highly influential films.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be easy films to miss because you have

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<v Speaker 1>at least sort of surface level understanding of what it's about,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's easy to sort of put that one on

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<v Speaker 1>the back burner. But this one's worth coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. All Right, we would love to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>everyone out there. What is your history with Forbidden Planet?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts concerning it and other pictures from

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<v Speaker 1>this timeframe? Or are there other movies that you would

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<v Speaker 1>compare favorably to Forbidden Planet from the nineteen fifties? Yeah,

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