WEBVTT - Winter TV? Spy TV! Reality TV! 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.120 Recording today's episode. Yeah, we're not gonna spoil anything. There's 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.880 gonna be no spoilers. We're just talking about like TV chatter, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:09.360 checking in on television. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.840 Hello, my name is Jason steps you and I'm marsday 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.720 Night and welcome back to Xtra Vision of the podcast 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.240 where we dive good to your favorite shows, movies, comics 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:35.920 and pop culture. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.160 Coming from Ara Podcast. We're for you three episodes a week, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.600 every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.519 And maybe says. 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.440 Maybe a mystery day, but this is like Saturday. 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.480 Also maybe a little surprise for you. In today's episode, 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.640 we are going to be checking our hype levels for 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.760 some upcoming shows. Yellow Jacket season three, how are we 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.280 feeling about it? After that stunning season one and a 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.200 little bit less impressive season two? White low of season three? 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.240 What do we think about that? How we feeling about 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.880 that now? Jennifer Coolidge's spoiler a lot of season two? 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.199 That sever and season two it's back baby, and they 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:18.080 are ready to make your mind melt. It's very wild. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.160 And then we will be talking about the rise of 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:26.640 spy stories in winter TV and how popular these have become. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.479 And then a little bit of a twist for you. Here, guys, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.600 we're gonna be talking about some winter reality TV. Just 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.399 throw a little bit out there what we enjoy in, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.240 what's getting us through this terrible time. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:41.560 But first the air lock. Okay, here we are television, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:47.480 some big upcoming shows coming out or already out. Uh, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.480 and let's check our level of excitement for these. I 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.280 guess let's start with seven season two, which is out. Now, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.000 it's already out, so let's it's already out. I've watched 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.760 the first episode. I thought that the finale of season 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.200 one one, and season one in general, was like great, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.600 great great. I was like, Okay, how long can they 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.120 really take this Twilight Zone thing and make a full 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.640 season out of it? And I was kind of blown 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:18.519 away by how many really truly actually mind bending twists 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.440 and turns there were, leading to a finale that had 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:27.120 lots of huge reveals. If you haven't watched season one 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:31.000 of Severn's on the Little Watched Little, subscribe to Apple 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.600 TV plus network. We have talked about all the various 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:35.360 ways you can. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:40.360 Get crazy to pay money. Just go to you. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.760 It's seriously, they will you walk into any place with 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.320 an Apple product, and there's gonna be some way in 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.880 that in that store where you can get an Apple 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:55.960 TV Plus subscription for nothing. So seven season two, I'm excited. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.119 I liked it. I found it season so it's been 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.040 what two years in season one. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.280 Which is a long almost three years. Yeah. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.520 Part of the delay was the double strikes actors and 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.560 writers striking at the same time. Part of the delay 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.440 was also that there was something of a power struggle 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.680 or a creative struggle behind the scenes of this show, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:25.120 which is executive produced and show ran by Ben Stiller, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:32.000 writer director, comedian. Though all parties involved in that have 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.920 apparently Kumbayad and yeah doing a whole press. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.440 Run because they've been doing a wild press run, a wild. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.760 Press one where they're like, listen, things happen and creative 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.120 endeavors and we disagree and everything's fine. Yeah. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.800 They put the whole cost in a gloss box at 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.080 Grand Central Station and had still of that taking pictures 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.800 of them like a proud uncle as they did little 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.440 bits in there for a few hours. So yeah, Yeah, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.640 I'm very interested to see if they can live up 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:04.240 to the hype. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:09.040 Season two first episode, I liked it. I'm excited to 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.960 see where it goes. It felt a little bit like 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:17.240 soft reboot stuff we've seen before, but it didn't build 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.960 off of the finale of season one in the way 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.240 I was totally expecting. But like, this is a show, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.040 I'm super interested. I'm I'm excited to get more answers. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.039 It does feel like we're kind of at the stage 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.680 now it's been two years in season one. I know 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.040 they're not thinking like that, but they maybe they should 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.080 they have and I gotta have some fucking answers at 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:37.960 some point, and. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.880 It's gotta happen. It's the yellow jacket conundrum. And I 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.760 do think this is at the moment, I feel like 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.120 we are in an interesting phase. I don't know what 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.480 it means creatively or you know, morally, or what it 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.360 reflects about our you know, current society, but we are 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.640 in an interesting phase where we are just getting so 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.800 many banger puzzle box shows where the first season you 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.400 are like, I would die to see season two right now, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760 Like I would, I would do terrible things if I 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:10.200 could see season two. And alas, when season two comes, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.760 then you have to start answering the questions of the puzzle. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.520 I need them and we and that I think is 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.919 definitely something that these shows are struggling with. But I 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.800 do think that Severance has set up an interesting core 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.719 conflict that will drive us through as we wait to 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:30.880 set up those storylines and those answers. So I'm feeling 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.080 positive the reviews of the positive. I'm excited. 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.640 I guess we should for those of you who haven't 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.160 seen it, yes, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, try 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.600 and do the non spoil us up. So there's a 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.920 there's this company called Lumen. They do something. There's been 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.840 a lot of conjecture about what the work they do is. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.200 But one of the conditions of working there, apparently, is 0:05:54.240 --> 0:06:01.839 that the workers undergo a process voluntarily which their consciousness 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:06.440 is split, so that the person that goes when you 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:11.400 go into the building, your consciousness flips over towards your 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.520 worker side, called the INNI, who just works. And then 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.520 when you leave the building, you're your audi. You're the 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.239 regular person you are, and you don't know anything about 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.520 what goes on at work. You're not stressed about it, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.120 you're not worried about it, you have no information about it. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.320 Both sides are not connected. Your INNI does not know 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.240 what your audi does when they're outside, is only interested 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.920 in work. Your Audi does not know anything about what 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.719 your INNI is going through, the internal office politics, the 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.120 drama therein the various types of work that you do. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.960 So there's been a lot of conjecture. I mean, the 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.880 women's involved with like the Defense Department. Maybe they do 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:51.200 something like some sort of top secret work. Yeah, so 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.159 it's unknown, and so that's the setup. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.799 Yeah, it's definitely very interesting, and the core conflict comes 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.120 in very early in the fun episode where you realized 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.120 that while many people are happy to be an Innie 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.360 and be in that space, Remember there is a great 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.560 conversation about well, wait a minute, this means that the 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.160 Innis experience life as if they never leave, they are 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.560 only ever at work, Like what would that mean to 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.800 just constantly only ever be conscious in work? Which was 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.400 something I was unexpecting, that was unexpected for me and 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.720 really drew me into that first season. So yeah, I'm 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.280 excited to see where the second season goes. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.480 I liked it. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.320 I liked the first episode. I love to see Adam 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.160 Scott having this critic career renaissance. I think he's one 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.280 of our best generational TV actors. I love him in 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.360 Parks and rec I love him in Party Down, it's 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.840 fun to get to see him doing something more serious here, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.600 and yeah, great, great stuff, A very positive start to 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.160 season two. But also I want those answers, what do they. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.240 I want those answers. I like this show because it 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.240 is in part it's kind of a version of the 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.720 teleporter problem, you know, like the Star Trek teleporter problem, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.760 where you know, how would a teleporter if it existed work? 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.480 You step inside, you are taken apart, so you die. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.560 Your body is taken apart, molecule by molecule, and then 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.760 on the other side they reassemble you perfectly, molecule by molecule. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.760 So when you go into the teleporter, you die, and 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.320 then a person who comes out the other side, you 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.320 are a clone with all of your memories that pick 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.520 up right away, knowing that do you get into a 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.760 teleporter and trust that on the other side you're the 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.400 same person? And how would you even know? And I 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.160 think that that is kind of the thing that's going 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.640 on in severance. Like, on one hand, it sounds like 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.000 the pitch could you could almost hear it would be 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.080 pretty good? Hey, yeah, no, none of the take home stress, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.680 none of the worries about my boss said this, my 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.960 boss said that I'm so pressed about like various projects, 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.400 and now I can't enjoy my off time. Now you know, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:54.640 work life balance, it's perfectly separated. The downside is there's 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.720 another person in there who's a version of you, who 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.480 is you don't even know if they're happier in or what. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.720 So that's what severance is really cool in that effect. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.600 I will say I explained this show to my father 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.760 in law, who was like, I'm out, I'm not gonna 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:10.160 watch that. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.800 He was like, absolutely fucking not. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:22.120 No. Next up, Yellowjackets season three slated to premiere February fourteenth. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.840 I am excited. The trailer came out a couple days ago, 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.880 which is very exciting and very violent and very twisty, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:36.600 and I wonder if we're gonna get those answers. And 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.440 this is here's the thing. My hype level is, give 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.640 me the fucking answers. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.520 I will say they I love this show. I love 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.480 everything about it. I could even when the second season 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.960 was not necessarily hitting me in the same way. I 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.440 do love these characters. The trailer got me very excited. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.920 It looks violent, it looks crazy. It looks like they 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.320 know that audio because they use the disturbed song let 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.080 the bodies hit the floor so they know we're all 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.800 very men now. And that was very good why you 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.839 know all that kind of business. But I will also 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.600 say it was still posing some of the same questions 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.920 we've had. It's the first season. They'll be like, somebody's 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.280 trying to kill us? Who who is trying to kill you? 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.000 Somebody's after us, somebody wants to know what happened in 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.360 the forest. Who tell us? Who's the among you needs 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.000 to know? We got to at least get a slight answer. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.480 I feel like they're ending up in a lost conundrum 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.840 here where you're gonna have to start giving us something. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.079 But this is an unreal cast, unreal collection of creatives 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.200 behind it, and it's always fun. So we will definitely 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.160 be checking in with The Yellow Jacket season three. But 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.679 me and Jason are here to employ you showtime. Give 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.440 us some answers, give us the answers. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.080 Hype level lukewarm, give me the answers, Tell me the 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.040 answers are coming, and I will get very high. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.400 Jason's like, I will heat up once you tell me 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:53.440 that next up. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:59.160 Hype level to be determined for White Lotus season three, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.680 which will debut also in February, mid February and February sixteenth. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.200 These shows are coming soon. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.360 Here's my thing with White Lotus. I loved season one. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.440 In season two, though, I have many concerns, and they're 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.640 the same ones that many people have written about, particular 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:23.920 for season one, which you know is basically a steve's On, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.920 the wonderful character actor steve's On gives a speech in 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.200 White Lotus season one. This is a mild spoiler. Here's 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.120 our first mild spoiler for people that I've not seen 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.040 White Loadas season in which he basically says, of, like 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.840 all the kind of drama around me too and diversity 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:46.079 and white supremacy and racism that was kind of coming 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.920 to a head back when that show was being produced 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.240 and come out, And he basically says, what am I 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.640 going to do apologize for it? Like? What am I 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.760 supposed to do? Like how do I just can I 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.800 just like live my life? And you know, basically I'm paraphrasing, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:05.600 but this show is basically about that. It's a show 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.320 show ran and written and directed by Mike White, very 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.280 talented writer, producer and former Survivor contestant. He could have 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.920 won that season he almost did win that season in 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:23.719 which basically he's processing his love of going to tropical 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.880 locations as a wealthy white guy and working through his 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:33.080 feelings about how do the people who actually live in 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.680 this place feel about this? How do I feel about this? 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.120 What does it mean to be a very wealthy and 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:45.120 privileged man in a different culture for two weeks and 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.240 then leaving? And Season one plays with those ideas but 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:53.439 doesn't necessarily land them, but is tremendously entertaining. It doesn't 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.040 land them and do you? And does it want to 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.079 land them? And do we care? I thought it was 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.480 a tremendous season and although very entertaining, a lot of 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.040 the questions stick with me. Season two was more of 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.719 a Jenner for Coolidge Romp, though I also loved it, 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:17.720 with wonderful performances by many people. Character wonderful and season 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.360 three is going to be set in Thailand. Now our 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.000 super producer Aaron has some concerns. You know, this is 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.640 a season one was set in was it Hawaii or Fiji? 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:30.720 It was Hawaii. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.360 It was Hawaii, so America, though obviously a unique culture 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.480 within the United States of America. Season two was set 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:44.440 in Sicily, and didn't delve too much into There. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.640 Was a little bit of like cloth conversation, but not much, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.400 not much, not much. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.120 Season three were in it. We're uh, we're going to 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.319 see so there are concerns. Also, apparently the production has 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:02.319 hired some thie writers to make sure that everything is respectful. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.160 That's and I'm also I'm I like this show. I 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:11.679 think this show explores class and wealth in a way 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.920 that is really unique and different, and also, you know, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:23.160 sexual orientation in a way that is pretty unique, and 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.200 so I'm exciting. I would say my hype level is 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.320 pretty hyped. I'm hyped for this. I think that there's 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.920 nothing quite like White Lotus on television. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:34.360 Yeah, that's no. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.760 I have some misgivings at times. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:42.120 And it does draw an unbelievable cost, like this season's cost. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.560 It has a Natasha Rothwell coming back, who is one 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.720 of my favorite most interesting characters from season one, so 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.520 I'm interested to see that. And then you've got Carrie Coon, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:55.400 Walton Gligins, Leslie Big, Michelle Monahan, Parker Posey, Lisa from 0:14:55.440 --> 0:15:00.880 Black Pink, Jason Isaacs, Sarah Catherine Hook, Pat Trick, Schwarzenegger, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.920 Amy Lee would so many different big name actors. So 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.560 it's gonna be interesting if maybe two seasons in a 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.240 lot of very thoughtful critiques and a maybe a more 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.240 diverse writers room or production space could see them deal 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.800 with more of that. Any whatever happens, I'm just gonna 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.400 miss Jennifer Coolidge because I don't have a lot of 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.480 faith that the show is suddenly going to become like 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:29.040 incredibly thoughtful. But I do want it to be incredibly interesting. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:34.040 I will say my main concern cultural stuff aside, is 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.440 that this is the first non Coolidge season, So what's 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:36.960 gonna happen. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.880 What's gonna happen? How do you live up to it? 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.320 How do you live up to Coolidge? 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.920 Now, our production team and you pitched what if they 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:46.720 bring her twin? 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.760 When? I love that theory. I think it's so silly 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.440 and so fun. But you're a twin hater. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:58.080 I'm I'm an anti twin. I don't like obviously, like 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:04.320 I've said this in parent Trap, where the setup is twins, Okay. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.840 Okay, if it's important and it's introduced, AI, you don't 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.320 like a late stage twin reveal. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.520 I don't like, for instance, this isn't aside, but the 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.200 one thing that really bothers me about a movie that 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.960 I think is a masterpiece, There Will be Blood, is 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.600 that all of a sudden, Paul Dano shows up and 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:28.440 he's the same actor but playing a different character. I guess, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:33.800 like the character's twin question mark, and it's so like, wait, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:38.920 what what happened? Another version of this is it's not 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:44.479 necessarily a twin, but in Deadwood, Garrett Della Hunt plays 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.560 two characters in a show that only ran like a 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:54.600 handful of seasons, and it's just so like, wait, why 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.320 is this just give another happen? 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:57.920 Guys? 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.320 Anyway, that's an asign. But I'm but I'm excited what 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.359 littus season three? Can't wait for it. We're going to 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.360 take a break to give you a word from our sponsors, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.880 and then we'll be back with spy TV. The latest 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:27.920 thing in tellvidon and we're back. Okay, Let's talk about 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.960 some of the shows that we've been watching, some of 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.000 the things that we really liked, and one of the 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.480 things that we can't help but notice is that spy 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.639 TV is here. There's a lot of spy shit on 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.800 TV right now, and a lot of it is very good. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.960 Surprisingly good. I feel like it's either good to very good. Yeah, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.960 I feel like from you know, the lost great spy 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.720 era we had was definitely like I like the grim 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:54.000 and gray kind of seventies spy era. Obviously, James Bond 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.480 has always been a popular spy, but I don't know 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.200 that the genre itself has had a recite in popularity 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.119 like we are having for a very long time when 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:11.199 multiple successful, high profile press, these TV shows are sented 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.880 around the idea of spies and I'm loving it. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.200 I'm loving it. Let's start at Netflix, which has several 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.280 spy properties currently going. First up Man on the Inside 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:30.200 from showrunner Mike Schure of Park Brooklyn, ninety nine, Rutherford Falls, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:36.640 The Good Place, Primo, Prima Prime, Amazon, Amazon Prime. Full disclosure. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.080 I worked on that show Primo with Mike, and several 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.960 of the folks who worked on it with us are 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.480 on Man on the Inside. So I feel very warmly 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:50.840 about this particular program. But it is based on the 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:56.080 Mole Agent twenty documentary film, and it's about a an 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.359 older guy played by Ted Danson who goes undercovered a 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:05.240 nursing home. And I'll say this, of the I think 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.920 really good Man on the Inside. I th it's really 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.440 and who many people are going to be very familiar 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:15.040 with from a million different things, including cheers and other things. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.200 I think he does stuff in this that he's never 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.119 done in his career. He goes to emotional places, and 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.600 there's certain things like about you know, there's stuff in 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.520 here about dementia and Alzheimer's aging in general that's very 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:35.880 melancholy and sad, and he goes to those places seamlessly. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.800 He's wonderful. I think this is this show is really good, 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:39.639 and it surprised me. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.879 This has been a show that a lot of people 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.560 have texted me about and said, have you watched this show? 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:49.119 Because it kind of Mike Shaw is really really really 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:54.680 really really really great at finding new twists on genres 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.040 you already know. And this is very much like a 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.200 cozy mystery show, but in a way we've never seen one. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.840 It has the spy layer two. It's not inherently every 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.919 week as a murder. It is more about this man's 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.719 exploration of his own aging and kind of getting a 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:18.520 second wind in life through this enigmatic new job and 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.560 role that he takes on. And I just think it's 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.280 absolutely charming and also a lot of the girlies. They 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.800 got the ted dance and crush right now from this show. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.960 They've been texting me saying, this is daddy dancing like 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.640 they are loving him. They are finding him very attractive 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.920 in his old age, and I love that for them. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.960 And yeah, just the really really charming show. This does 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.080 feel like, though it is on Netflix, it does feel 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.320 like it could run for ten seasons, Like it has 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.320 that feeling that it could just happen. Now, Netflix, You're 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.920 not gonna likely get more than two seasons, but there's 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.720 a lot in here that feels very much like a 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.320 murder she wrote, or a Colombo or something that you 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.320 could just watch again and again. 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.800 Good camp. It's clearly something that Netflix is going for, 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:07.040 that kind of cozy rewatch demo, to the point where 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:11.080 I think, you know, they're probably leading the charge for 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.240 this Man on the inside is not this type of content, 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.680 but the type of content where it acknowledges that people 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.639 are probably looking at their phone, fun screen content. 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.119 Yeah, that's like a big thing Netflix has been pushing for. 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.600 There's been a lot of controversy recently. Obviously, Mike Shure 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.960 is way too famous for them to tell him to 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:33.080 do that, but they have been telling. Certain newer content creators. 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:33.320 Make it easier. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.320 It make it easier have people come on screen and 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.040 describe what they're doing in case somebody is not looking 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.520 at the TV. Now, this is not that content, but 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.800 it is definitely rewatchable. I also love that there are 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.240 all these nods like Tinker Taylor, Older Spy, Like all 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.680 the titles are fun, your curious incident of the dog 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.720 in the painting class and stuff like that. It's very fun. 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.560 It's if you love spy movies, if you love mysteries, 0:21:57.600 --> 0:21:59.240 there's a lot in there for you. But it's also 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.240 just actually like a really interesting show. And like many 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.399 Mike Shuh shows, it will make you cry. 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.280 Yes, it will make you cry. Next up, also on Netflix, 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.680 is the I think really good Black Doves. 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.679 Oh my gosh, so good, Like nobody expected it to 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:17.439 be this good. 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:24.720 It's soapy, it's violent, it's got some wonderful twists and turns, 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:29.680 it has it. The ending, which I won't spoil, is 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:31.480 an emotional hit. It's good. 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:32.040 Yeah. 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:36.040 And so the setup is there's these group of spies 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.399 called Black Doves. One of them is Helen played by 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:46.120 Kieran Knightley, whose best gay colleague in the spy business. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:52.119 Sam played by Ben Wishaw is like a fucking Jason 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.359 Bourne level, like a sassin. 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.680 Yeah, and you're just and he's so sassy and he's 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.760 always like okay, darling, like he's just immediately the me. 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:03.560 Is very very very like. He is very very sassy, 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.639 and he's very much like, uh, you know, meeted person 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.520 at a bar and is like, you know, we okay, 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.159 shut up if you want a shag or not. 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.720 Like yeah, exactly, like you want to hang out with 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:20.119 him if he wasn't gonna kill you, but in a 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.520 very efficient fashion. Kiara Knightley is like a highly trained 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.240