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Speaker 2: Seaton's got a poll question. At least we have a
Speaker 2: few of them to toss around for the first hour
Speaker 2: of the program.
Speaker 4: Before we get to poll questions. Don't you think Ole
Speaker 4: miss is wondering, like, how did it come to this?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: I think Lane Kiffin is thinking that how did we
Speaker 2: get here? We're playing Duke after Notre Dame in Georgia, right,
Speaker 2: we're playing duke today. Yes, we're in the SEC football
Speaker 2: duke football. We should have been in the playoffs there
Speaker 2: and here they are. They've got Duke yes.
Speaker 6: And Notre Dame Georgia first is like a leading band,
Speaker 6: like a headlining band. And then the Going second. Yeah,
Speaker 6: years ago the spin doctors opened up for the Rolling Stones.
Speaker 6: This would be like the Rolling Stones, no offense, no
Speaker 6: offense for.
Speaker 2: It's led Zeppelin and then Gin blossoms here. How did
Speaker 2: we get here? This brutal? And I like that Lane
Speaker 2: Kiffen was so active on social media. He's sticking up
Speaker 2: for the SEC and then all of a sudden Tennessee
Speaker 2: got blown out and we didn't hear from Lane after that.
Speaker 2: Here's a pet peeve that I have. I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear these analysts after the fact tell me somebody
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in the playoffs. You know when Kirk Kurbstreet says,
Speaker 2: basically the Indiana shouldn't have been here, but Herbie wasn't alone.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of other people who said, well,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have been here. Okay, SMU shouldn't have been here. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming SMU or Indiana. They did everything they
Speaker 2: were supposed to do. And tell me that before they
Speaker 2: get blown out, not after. Did you say Tennessee shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been there. No, they earned the right to be there.
Speaker 2: They just got blown out. But this after the fact
Speaker 2: where you have people going, no, they never should have
Speaker 2: been there. Okay, if Arizona State gets blown out, people
Speaker 2: would have said, well they never should have gotten the
Speaker 2: first round, by right, that's the way it works. Are
Speaker 2: you saying that about Oregon? That Oregon shouldn't have been
Speaker 2: the number one team in the country, They shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been the number one seed. They got blown out my
Speaker 2: Ohio State. It's really easy to do that today. Do
Speaker 2: it before, Okay, after the fact.
Speaker 4: I have no respect for that yes, a Oregon shouldn't
Speaker 4: be here before the hand would have been a very
Speaker 4: hot take that would have been.
Speaker 2: That would have been you know, I don't think Oregon
Speaker 2: belongs here. Yes, yes, but somebody's going to say that
Speaker 2: after the fact. You know, Arizona State, and I was
Speaker 2: worried because I thought, just make it competitive. It's weird.
Speaker 2: I rooted for Indiana smu Boise State, Arizona State to
Speaker 2: make it competitive. I didn't think they were going to win,
Speaker 2: but I thought, just make it competitive so we don't
Speaker 2: get this revisionist history where they never should have been there.
Speaker 2: And then Arizona State comes back, and then they tie it,
Speaker 2: and then they go into overtime. They said, okay, they're
Speaker 2: off the hook here. That is a great loss, although
Speaker 2: they're not going to take it that way, but that
Speaker 2: was a standout game that they played and losing to Texas,
Speaker 2: and I thought Arizona State was the better team the second, third,
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and part of the overtime. But it was
Speaker 2: fun to see. You know, we're gonna look at Ashton
Speaker 2: gent and all of a sudden, yeah, okay, you're gonna
Speaker 2: play against that competition. He only he plays against who
Speaker 2: he is scheduled to play against. They didn't say, hey,
Speaker 2: can we pick the crappiest team so I can rush
Speaker 2: for twenty five hundred yards. Boise State did what they
Speaker 2: were asked to do. This is on college football. College
Speaker 2: football created a scenario where they said, hey, if you
Speaker 2: win your conference, you get a first round by. It
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. We've said it doesn't make sense. We
Speaker 2: said it before people realize it didn't make sense. They're
Speaker 2: going to change it. They're going to have and logic
Speaker 2: will step in, which is really rare in college football.
Speaker 2: But they will eventually get around to fixing this. So
Speaker 2: Boise State or Arizona State, these schools they're not getting
Speaker 2: first round bys. You're going to have and they should
Speaker 2: take anybody's opinion out it. Take the human equation out
Speaker 2: of this where we keep looking at Alabama like it's Alabama.
Speaker 2: Just ask Vegas. Vegas will tell you, because their livelihood
Speaker 2: depends on this, they don't have any emotion. They will
Speaker 2: tell you the best teams who should be in and
Speaker 2: who shouldn't be in. And Alabama didn't deserve to be in.
Speaker 2: I know. It's one of those where you where they
Speaker 2: got to put in Alabama. No they don't, No, they don't.
Speaker 2: It's a new college football landscape here, folks. And that's
Speaker 2: where you see these teams who get a quarterback transfer
Speaker 2: portal nil money, and all of a sudden, the artist
Speaker 2: you thought were Alabama, maybe even Georgia, they're knocked down
Speaker 2: a little bit here or others are coming up on them,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have quarterbacks in the transfer report, Quinn
Speaker 2: Ewers may be playing at Notre Dame next year. Why
Speaker 2: would you go to the pros? You can make six
Speaker 2: million dollars playing He's going to make what a quarterback
Speaker 2: taken in the top ten would make. And he's probably
Speaker 2: They probably gonna imagine you win a national title and
Speaker 2: they say, thanks Quinn, we got Arch. We got Arch
Speaker 2: here ready to go. And there was a report that
Speaker 2: he had an offer of six million dollars. Some had
Speaker 2: speculated that it's Notre Dame. They have Riley Leonard, they're
Speaker 2: going to lose him. And I asked my college football source,
Speaker 2: and they said Notre Dame thought that that was too
Speaker 2: rich for them. Six million dollars for Quinn years. So
Speaker 2: here he is coming off biggest win of his career.
Speaker 2: They got a home game, basic coming up against Ohio State,
Speaker 2: and you got these guys already negotiating what they're going
Speaker 2: to do next year. It's college football. It's crazy and
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. You know, there were
Speaker 2: some really good games. Now there were some duds, but
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. It happens in the NFL play
Speaker 2: You know, how often do we go, oh, that team
Speaker 2: got blown out. They never should have been in We
Speaker 2: don't do that, not in the NFL, but we do
Speaker 2: it in college football. But it's because you're looking at
Speaker 2: somebody whose schedule inferior competition. Yes, it's never going to
Speaker 2: be an exact science, it's just not. But enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I think. You know, we have playoff football. We didn't
Speaker 2: have playoff football before.
Speaker 3: We have it.
Speaker 2: Now it'll get better, games will be competitive. It's okay,
Speaker 2: first round matchups in the NCAA tournament, do you go, oh,
Speaker 2: they never should have been there, du blew out somebody
Speaker 2: by forty two. But we do that. We pick and choose,
Speaker 2: you know, with our discuss our outrage.
Speaker 4: Yeah see right, But like if the Ravens get to
Speaker 4: the playoffs and get blown out in the first round,
Speaker 4: no one's gonna say, see, they shouldn't have been there,
Speaker 4: they didn't belong there. If you you could, you have
Speaker 4: the ability to completely remove that from the discussion in
Speaker 4: college football. You just have to take the steps to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing that people will debate or say, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna give Lamar Jackson the MVP and they bowo
Speaker 2: out again like that would be the only thing that
Speaker 2: would happen in a situation like that. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that is the big topic here with Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,
Speaker 2: who's going to be the MVP? And I think it
Speaker 2: comes down to when you look at stats and you
Speaker 2: look at team performance. Because Lamar Jackson's had an unbelievable year.
Speaker 2: But I think we're all nobody's surprised at that. I
Speaker 2: think most people are surprised at the Buffalo Bills and
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. When you lose Stefan Diggs, they lost a
Speaker 2: lot of defensive players. So you got to kind of
Speaker 2: figure out what is what are the parameters here? What's
Speaker 2: the definition that you should be voting on, because that's
Speaker 2: another thing you're going to get this, Well it's his turn,
Speaker 2: what huh, You're either the MVP or you're not. It's
Speaker 2: like somebody wins the Academy Award because well it was
Speaker 2: their turn.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: You either earn it or you don't. But that will
Speaker 2: be a big topic coming up this weekend and the
Speaker 2: fact that Lamar's going to play keep his consecutive gamestreak going.
Speaker 2: But how long is he going to play? And does
Speaker 2: that factor in with somebody with the MVP race. But
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Chris Simms about that. Can something happen
Speaker 2: this weekend that changes the MVP? But I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be really really close, really close, and I
Speaker 2: certainly understand either way. Like, you know, people got upset.
Speaker 2: Remember when Joker was going to win his third and
Speaker 2: oh my god, Kendrick Perkins came on and it's like,
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? It's joe El Embiid. I go, no,
Speaker 2: it's not. Joker is the best player in basketball, the
Speaker 2: most valuable player. What do you talk Kendrick Perkins and
Speaker 2: the Mothership? I think you know suade that vote for
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid and Embiid had a great season, but he
Speaker 2: was not a better player, more valuable than Joker was.
Speaker 2: So you know what happens with the analyst here over
Speaker 2: the next seventy two hours, you're going to play a
Speaker 2: large role in all of this. All right, Seaton poll question,
Speaker 2: I'm blah bob blonde, but I'm ready to go here,
Speaker 2: I'm fired up.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4: You want to start with a dude pole question? All
Speaker 4: sent over a dude question more? Okay, So I should
Speaker 4: have said, sorry, my apologist, dude, dude or dude in
Speaker 4: many ways to see that the refs in the Texas
Speaker 4: Arizona State game.
Speaker 2: Dud dude, what minute tend to go? I know it's
Speaker 2: a minute tend to go? You still have to call
Speaker 2: targeting there, asshoes driving and that would have given them
Speaker 2: a first down and we don't know what would have
Speaker 2: happened after that, but maybe they kick a field goal.
Speaker 2: But here is Ken Dillingham, he's the Arizona State head
Speaker 2: coach on the non call for targeting.
Speaker 7: In terms of the targeting, I mean, I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 7: I don't know what targeting is. We lost one of
Speaker 7: our best players in the first half for targeting and
Speaker 7: I just don't know. I just don't I just don't
Speaker 7: know what it is. So I don't want to comment
Speaker 7: on something that I have to get a better grasp
Speaker 7: of what it is, just because it's so you know,
Speaker 7: I just don't quite understand it. I do just want
Speaker 7: to protect the players, though, so whatever rules are put
Speaker 7: in place to protect the players, I'm all about.
Speaker 2: It's targeting. It is, and he did his best. He
Speaker 2: danced around as best he could. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that they factor in. There's key items that
Speaker 2: are fined by the NCAA rule book, and one is
Speaker 2: leading with the helmet's shoulder, forearm, fist, hand, or elbow
Speaker 2: to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
Speaker 2: You can't argue that one also defenseless receiver. So there's
Speaker 2: two opportunities to call a penalty there and they chose
Speaker 2: not to. It's like when the Rams and the Saints
Speaker 2: in a playoff game many many years ago in the Superdome,
Speaker 2: they could have called two different penalties and they didn't
Speaker 2: call either penalty that was targeting. Now, I know people
Speaker 2: are going to say, hey, fourth and thirteen, don't let
Speaker 2: him score touchdown. You're absolutely right, But in that moment,
Speaker 2: I don't care what the time on the clock is.
Speaker 2: And people got caught up. Well, you can't call it then,
Speaker 2: Really that receiver is knocked out on the field and
Speaker 2: I can't call it then, I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: It was targeting And even when the rules official for
Speaker 2: the Mothership says, yeah, basically that's uh, we shouldn't even
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on this. That's targeting. And
Speaker 2: it was. It was a wonderful game, but that was
Speaker 2: a call that they certainly missed. Also, when Skataboo is
Speaker 2: lifted up by his offensive lineman, you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: do that. I mean, it was a cool play. You
Speaker 2: can push, you can't pull. So there was a lot
Speaker 2: that was going on there, but still it was I
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. Even if the game all the Bull games,
Speaker 2: I'm watching them all I watched probably I don't know
Speaker 2: if there was a Bull game that I didn't miss
Speaker 2: at least a portion of I did my best to
Speaker 2: watch as much as possible there, and uh, it's it's great.
Speaker 2: We're in a new era here and we can pick
Speaker 2: and nitpick and go. Indiana shouldn't been in there. I
Speaker 2: said that before. They didn't play anybody, but they did
Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do. Don't blame Indiana Lane
Speaker 2: College football system. They're going to rectify it. They'll clean
Speaker 2: it up and it'll be better. They're going to continue
Speaker 2: to modify this. They're going to add two more teams.
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Speaker 2: He is Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host
Speaker 2: and an analyst for Football Night in America. Big kickoff
Speaker 2: this Sunday night on NBC and Peacock. It will be
Speaker 2: the Lions and the Vikings. We'll talk about that coming
Speaker 2: up in a moment. You are a Texas s gran
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you were watching the game yesterday. Can
Speaker 2: you be impartial on the pill? Okay?
Speaker 3: No, sound hard to be impartial though, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing any pregame shows. Are working professionally, so I no,
Speaker 3: I was a total loud mouth, obnoxious Texas Longhorn fan
Speaker 3: yesterday watching in my living room. I was having a
Speaker 3: lot of fun, though certainly it was a great game
Speaker 3: to watch. It really was.
Speaker 2: Okay, by the rule, was that targeting.
Speaker 3: By the rule, by what you see in college football
Speaker 3: on a weekly basis, and the over officiating nature of
Speaker 3: that play in general. Yes, by the rule, it is
Speaker 3: because what there was hit to the head. But where
Speaker 3: it's different and where I'm glad they didn't call it
Speaker 3: is the fact that the bass tipped in the air,
Speaker 3: so there was a little reaction to the ball, like
Speaker 3: oh wait, I'm going up and looking at that. Also,
Speaker 3: he didn't launch, I mean he hit him with his
Speaker 3: face right, It wasn't like he was like trying to
Speaker 3: lower the crown of his helmet and do that. I,
Speaker 3: like you, was surprised they didn't call it because it's
Speaker 3: very TICKI tac with that stuff this day and age,
Speaker 3: whether it's the NFL or college. But happy they didn't.
Speaker 2: If it was flipped, if it was reversed.
Speaker 3: And I'm always I will say this if you ever
Speaker 3: watch games with me, I am. I am pro defense,
Speaker 3: and that it's so hard with the rules all against them,
Speaker 3: that yeah, if there was the other way around and
Speaker 3: they had a call a drive earlier, that I thought
Speaker 3: they could have called the same thing targeting on them,
Speaker 3: and they didn't, And that's what kind of led me
Speaker 3: to believe they might not do it in that moment.
Speaker 3: They were kind of letting it play as far as
Speaker 3: that's concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they did call targeting in the first half
Speaker 2: on an Arizona State player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they did there too. I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I know. Listen, it's not perfect and some of this
Speaker 3: stuff is over efficient. It drives me crazy every week
Speaker 3: we've lost, Like, especially in the NFL, forcible contact to
Speaker 3: the head, right, I'm sick of like two fingers touch
Speaker 3: a quarterback's head and they go, well, you hit him
Speaker 3: in the head.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: No, in the language it says forcible. It didn't say
Speaker 3: like ooh I gave him a little love tap or
Speaker 3: oh I kissed him on the ear and we throw
Speaker 3: a penalty, and I wish some of this was stuff would.
Speaker 2: Stop a little bit. Do you think Quinny Ewers is
Speaker 2: Texas quarterback next year?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I do not. Do you think he's playing college football
Speaker 2: next year?
Speaker 3: Yes? I would hope so, because I don't think he's
Speaker 3: a guy that's going to go in the first two
Speaker 3: rounds of the draft. I think he has like the
Speaker 3: potential to be that kind of guy, but I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to show people maybe another year of
Speaker 3: high quality football play and all that. But no, I
Speaker 3: expect arch Manning Era to start after the season's over.
Speaker 3: And yeah, in my heart of hearts, again I have
Speaker 3: no inside info, Dan, I think that Quinne Owers will
Speaker 3: be playing somewhere else. He is an NFL quarterback. He
Speaker 3: needs to throw the ball with more authority. I think
Speaker 3: you watch enough football. He's too many of these, like
Speaker 3: lays the ball up there instead of driving it through
Speaker 3: the target, which he has the ability to do. And
Speaker 3: of course he can work on his athleticism a little
Speaker 3: bit too as well. But yeah, I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: be somewhere else, Dan.
Speaker 2: All right, let's look at the NFL let me start
Speaker 2: with the MVP race. Can anything happen this weekend that
Speaker 2: would change your opinion or should change the opinion of
Speaker 2: the NFL MVP voters.
Speaker 3: I think so. Like Okay, as I said here right now,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that I'm probably favoring Josh Allen as
Speaker 3: far as the MVP vote. But it's really close. It's
Speaker 3: crazy because last year it was kind of an underwhelming
Speaker 3: the MVP year. It felt like it was given to
Speaker 3: Lamar at a default because he just he had a
Speaker 3: good year and they were dominant, but it wasn't eye
Speaker 3: popping wow stats. This year, we got four guys I
Speaker 3: got eye popping wow stats that are all having MVP
Speaker 3: caliber years. So I leaned Josh Allen because I do believe, yes,
Speaker 3: Lamar's stats are a little bit better. I think Lamar's
Speaker 3: support around him on the offensive side of the ball
Speaker 3: is a little bit better as well. But MVP is
Speaker 3: a little about moments, and Josh Allen had a stretch
Speaker 3: there of moments, whether it was the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, the Rams and Who's the other one and
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions of going that was one of the
Speaker 3: four incredible, incredible weeks in a row and big time
Speaker 3: plays and big moments, and that's where I favor him.
Speaker 3: But man, it's tough, Dan, that's for sure.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You looking at this, and I always I'm curious how
Speaker 2: people factor in What is their criteria? Is it stats?
Speaker 2: Is it team success? And then stats or stats then
Speaker 2: team's success. And if Joe Burrow, if the Bengals had
Speaker 2: ten wins right now, who's your MVP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different the Bengals were firmly entrenched in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, I probably I don't know, that'd be a
Speaker 3: close one. You're making that it'd be really close. I
Speaker 3: still think I'd probably go with Josh Allen because I
Speaker 3: just do you know, and then all these guys are
Speaker 3: were of it. But the way he's played this year,
Speaker 3: the decision making, the quality of play and clutch moments
Speaker 3: and all that, I don't think anybody has stood above
Speaker 3: Josh Allen in that department. But no doubt like Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow's year is special, and if they were one of
Speaker 3: the top four seeds, I certainly think he'd be in
Speaker 3: a lot of people's you know, lead as far as
Speaker 3: the voting, and you asked me if anything could change
Speaker 3: it this weekend. I mean, if if Lamar goes out
Speaker 3: there and throws five touchdowns and has an unbelievable statistical
Speaker 3: day and the Bills and Josh Allen are kind of
Speaker 3: sleep at the wheel and he throws one touchdown and
Speaker 3: two or three interceptions or whatever, that that might change
Speaker 3: my mind. I'm not you know, I haven't written it
Speaker 3: in stone yet. As far as Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: You got the Vikings in the line Sunday night on
Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock. The winner gets the number one seed.
Speaker 2: The loser probably on the road against Tampa or Atlanta,
Speaker 2: whoever wins that division or the Rams. Right, that's harsh.
Speaker 2: That's harsh to have that many wins and you're gonna
Speaker 2: have Tampa or Atlanta getting in you know, barely five
Speaker 2: hundred the Rams at the Rams, how dangerous they are.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could be sure you could be one
Speaker 2: and done here if you know the Lions are the Vikings.
Speaker 3: Definitely, I mean the Vikings lost to the Rams earlier
Speaker 3: this year in LA Definitely, and then either one. You know,
Speaker 3: I still sit here and tell you that I think
Speaker 3: the most complete team in the NFC is the Philadelphia
Speaker 3: Eagles that's who I would still take. That's the team
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take to go to the super Bowl out
Speaker 3: of the NFC.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But but these Vikings and Lions football teams awesome offensively,
Speaker 3: but they're middle of the road defense. So if you
Speaker 3: if they play a team that's got a really good offense,
Speaker 3: the game's gonna be scary. So that that's to your point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's big, It really is. It's a huge game.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what happens. We know the offenses
Speaker 3: are super explosive. I think home field advantage I think
Speaker 3: is more important to Detroit in my opinion, just because
Speaker 3: of the way the defense has looked as of late.
Speaker 3: Right the dam is broken, I mean, and you look
Speaker 3: at it and I go, yeah, homefield, the crowd noise,
Speaker 3: all that I think will help them a little bit, right,
Speaker 3: because that simplifies an offense, and that place is tough
Speaker 3: to play. You can't go to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: with four different plays called in the huddle and do
Speaker 3: all these checks when you're on the road in Detroit,
Speaker 3: So that simplifies things. That's a little advantage they need.
Speaker 3: I think it is more important for them to win
Speaker 3: this game than Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live co host in Football
Speaker 2: Night in America. They have the big matchup between Detroit
Speaker 2: and Minnesota Sunday Night. Sam Darnald's free agency plans? Should
Speaker 2: he have free agency plan? Should the Vikings plan on
Speaker 2: Sam Donald going to free agency?
Speaker 3: Well, they got to make sure they got a.
Speaker 2: Plan to Okay, what would you do? I want yeah,
Speaker 2: I want you to make the decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like at this moment right now, I
Speaker 3: would not let Sam Donald walk out of the building.
Speaker 3: That would not happen. It's just it's too hard to
Speaker 3: find quarterbacks that are good in the NFL. You got one.
Speaker 3: He fits your scheme. You can see he's got talent
Speaker 3: and all that. But now, do I want to commit
Speaker 3: long term to him yet?
Speaker 10: Nah?
Speaker 3: I don't think I do either. I'd like to see
Speaker 3: one more year. We've seen guys have good years, ride
Speaker 3: the momentum, the good vibes of the building, we're playing good,
Speaker 3: and then come back the next year and we go, well,
Speaker 3: they can't seem to recreate that magic. What's going on there?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. So I think I'm one that as
Speaker 3: I said here, right now, Dan, I'd probably franchise tag him,
Speaker 3: franchise them, see another year and go, hey, just prove
Speaker 3: to me. And then maybe you get to you know,
Speaker 3: end of next year and the franchise and he plays
Speaker 3: really well again, then you go, Okay, we got our guy.
Speaker 3: Now we can commit to a few more years and
Speaker 3: guaranteed money and do all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a Kirk Cousins situation when he
Speaker 2: was with Washminton. I mean I would franchise him one
Speaker 2: more year. Okay, I want you to answer quickly. You
Speaker 2: can have Sam Donald for one hundred and fifty million
Speaker 2: brock Party for two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's not even close. That's not even close.
Speaker 3: Sam Donald all day, all day, all day. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a forty nine Ers fan and that's my
Speaker 3: buddy Kyle Shanahan. Certainly, there's no way I would pay
Speaker 3: anywhere near market value for brock Purty. Some of these
Speaker 3: teams got to stop this, right. I've said this about
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins, their highest paid player in their football teams,
Speaker 3: their biggest concern in the big game and their biggest
Speaker 3: injury liability, and whether he's available out there that doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense. That's bad team building. Brock Party there's a
Speaker 3: little of that too, and you saw he's not talented
Speaker 3: enough to carry the football team. I would, I would,
Speaker 3: I would go way below market value with Brock Purty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how do you do so you basically say
Speaker 2: to his agent, we're gonna give you here's thirty million.
Speaker 3: Tell me out who else is gonna take thirty five?
Speaker 3: Thirty million? Who else is gonna I would have done
Speaker 3: the same thing with Miami gun who else? In football,
Speaker 3: these teams are negotiating against themselves. They're like, here's thirty million, No,
Speaker 3: you don't like it, Hey, here's thirty five, you want more?
Speaker 3: And they just they keep going up and you're like, well,
Speaker 3: why nobody else is gonna pay him this? So that's
Speaker 3: what I would say. I would. I would start. If
Speaker 3: I'm in the NFL and I don't know where it
Speaker 3: lost its way, it'd be Mahomes makes this, and nobody's
Speaker 3: Mahomes and we're gonna have a pecking order below that period.
Speaker 3: It starts there and we've gotten away with this. Oh,
Speaker 3: the new guy's up, he's the new contract, so we
Speaker 3: got to pay him more, And like.
Speaker 2: No, you don't blame the Cleveland Browns. What they did
Speaker 2: with DeShawn Wants.
Speaker 3: The dumbest thing ever exactly right, the dumbest contract in
Speaker 3: the history of the NFL. You're right, that's that's definitely
Speaker 3: part of it too, Dan, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had to give him an offer that
Speaker 2: he couldn't refuse because he didn't want to go to Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, because they had ruined things already with Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield and they knew they were in a spot of like,
Speaker 3: oh crap, now we have no quarterback because he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to come here, so we got to pay him that.
Speaker 3: So you're right, I mean, but they did that to
Speaker 3: themselves and how they handled that situation, it's crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: when it comes to rock party or anything like that, Dan,
Speaker 3: I would go, here's what we're offering. Show me who
Speaker 3: else out there is gonna offer you that kind of
Speaker 3: money or anything better, because I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 3: be out there. I don't think there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: market and everybody's gonna go, oh, I need brock Purty
Speaker 3: as my quarterback. Everybody knows brock Perty's good, but he's
Speaker 3: really good when he's with Shanahan. Shanahan's the one driving
Speaker 3: that boat there. You know, that's my opinion at least.
Speaker 2: Okay, more dangerous in the postseason if they both get
Speaker 2: in Tampa or the Rams.
Speaker 3: Well, the Rams are in right, so, But but you're
Speaker 3: who's more dangerous?
Speaker 5: Mmm?
Speaker 3: I I I guess I'll still go with the Rams,
Speaker 3: even though I am a little concerned with their offense.
Speaker 3: I am. You could see Cooper Cup is not the
Speaker 3: same guy. They have to ride Puka Nakua way too
Speaker 3: much in the passing game, right, They need to too
Speaker 3: at well, and all these guys to be healthy out there.
Speaker 3: But I'll go with them because of their experience. But man,
Speaker 3: Tampa and their defense is a little better. Tampa's defense
Speaker 3: scares me. But man, that offense, Baker Mayfield, he is
Speaker 3: he's a flame thrower right now, throwing lasers all over
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 2: What do you think it's like if you're with the
Speaker 2: pay you know, the Patriots are gonna have the number
Speaker 2: one pick if they lose, Like, what what is the
Speaker 2: mindset of it's best for the organization to lose this game?
Speaker 3: It's hard, It's very hard, right, There's it's hard to
Speaker 3: add ask the New York Giants last week, Right, this
Speaker 3: is these records go on the coach's gravestone. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'm gonna be back here. What the
Speaker 3: hell am I gonna tank? And for the next regime.
Speaker 3: I don't give a crap about that. Right Drew Locke
Speaker 3: is sitting there going, I want to play in the
Speaker 3: NFL and show everybody how good I am. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go out here and throw in completion
Speaker 3: so the team can have a better draft pick. It's
Speaker 3: hard to get the whole organization involved in that, and
Speaker 3: especially when you start the rookie franchise. You know, guy
Speaker 3: of the future at quarterback, you certainly want to make
Speaker 3: him look good and build on the future and do
Speaker 3: all of that as well. So, yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 3: It's a tough one, but I think they'll find a
Speaker 3: way to manage the game in a way where they
Speaker 3: don't win it.
Speaker 2: Well, there's organizational tanking. That's where you put people in
Speaker 2: or you take exemple out. Hey, we want to look
Speaker 2: at the you know, the future. We want to give
Speaker 2: that guy a chance.
Speaker 3: Damn Brown's are doing that right now. They're doing the same.
Speaker 2: Thing often is their tanking in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Well, I it's not as much or as easy easily
Speaker 3: done as you think. I don't. I never felt like
Speaker 3: I was on a team that was a part of it,
Speaker 3: so I never got an inside look or feel for that.
Speaker 3: But I think that with the common the modern era here,
Speaker 3: I think there's there's probably four or five teams every
Speaker 3: year who try to orchestrate it to not put their
Speaker 3: best foot forward. Like I said, you can't totally tank
Speaker 3: the game because you can't ask guys who are fighting
Speaker 3: for their careers in life to quit and not play
Speaker 3: football when they're gotten gonna get paid next year if
Speaker 3: they look like crap, But they try to do, like
Speaker 3: what you said, put the least best foot forward there
Speaker 3: in that department.
Speaker 2: The number one quarterback in college coming out is who.
Speaker 3: Gosh, it's tough right now. I mean cam Ward is
Speaker 3: the one that pops up to me. Of course, Shadeur
Speaker 3: is there as well. I was a Jalen Milroe fan,
Speaker 3: but he really struggled towards the end of the year,
Speaker 3: so I'm a little scared of him. Uh, And I
Speaker 3: don't know if he'll even come out now after that
Speaker 3: performance there, But I think it's cam Ward uh and
Speaker 3: then Shador I think it's but I think I would
Speaker 3: go cam Ward. The other guy I like it. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna come out is the LSU quarterback.
Speaker 3: No Smier. Now Smyer is an NFL first round type talent,
Speaker 3: but I haven't heard about what's going to go on
Speaker 3: with him there yet.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, so always.
Speaker 3: Happy, Happy New Year. It got all right, horns up,
Speaker 3: horns up, you know it, Texas fight.
Speaker 2: Does anybody do horns down to you.
Speaker 3: All the time? I mean the whole NBC building. They
Speaker 3: like to ride me and do horns down. Do you
Speaker 3: get upset? No?
Speaker 2: No, I don't, I don't. You don't cry.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get the last laugh this year. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to deal with my big mouth the
Speaker 3: rest of this year if we can win this thing.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live
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Speaker 2: some phone calls here. Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Amy in Arizona, Good morning Amy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey?
Speaker 2: Andy in Rhode Island, Hi Andy, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Good morning Dan, Danez, Happy New year, and hey, Amy
Speaker 10: missed out on her opportunity to beat the first caller
Speaker 10: of the year, though I will be happy to take
Speaker 10: that on her roll out the red copper for the fellas.
Speaker 10: I am excited, guys. I will say that my best
Speaker 10: and worst because you know, it's really hard because you know,
Speaker 10: you guys went off for about, you know, thirteen days
Speaker 10: and so give it take. And my best is with
Speaker 10: the New England Pages possibly falling, you know, into the
Speaker 10: number one spot. Is it one of those things. Do
Speaker 10: they trade up on that or do they take genera
Speaker 10: generational talent with Travis Hunter? Because I believe that would
Speaker 10: be obvious bestments that they can make and gift attend
Speaker 10: to another team wouldn't make any sense. And also I
Speaker 10: just wanted to say then that for the most part,
Speaker 10: with Fritzie's Broncos on the fence right now, that has
Speaker 10: to be the most month most must win game of
Speaker 10: the weekend. And can I add one more thing?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 10: Okay, there's a Dana and all of us. I love
Speaker 10: you guys, and continue on doing the great things that
Speaker 10: y'all keep doing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's a lot of discussions that are going
Speaker 2: to happen before the draft with If the Patriots are
Speaker 2: on the clib number one, what do you do? You
Speaker 2: got your franchise quarterback? Do you take Travis Hunter? How
Speaker 2: badly does somebody want to go up and get one
Speaker 2: of these two quarterbacks? The Patriots would probably like to
Speaker 2: trade down, But can you pass on Travis Hunter? If
Speaker 2: you think that he is that guy, then you take him.
Speaker 2: I think he's fascinating because he can play both positions.
Speaker 2: I want him to be great. I want to make
Speaker 2: sure he's great at one thing. I don't want you
Speaker 2: to be good or you know, very good as a
Speaker 2: defensive back, and then he contributes as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I'm getting greatness there
Speaker 2: at least one of them. Like Otani's a great hitter
Speaker 2: and a good pitcher, so I'm getting that novelty there.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how much I'm going to get
Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter. You know, baseball is different. You pitch
Speaker 2: one day and then you have four days to rest.
Speaker 2: This is different. You know it's going to be, hey,
Speaker 2: you just play defense, now go on offense. Can he
Speaker 2: do it? Probably to what degree? That would be my decision.
Speaker 2: That would have to factor in if I take him
Speaker 2: number one overall. Is he the best talent in the draft? Yes?
Speaker 2: Does he fit with the Patriots? Need truly need because
Speaker 2: they need help. They have no skill position players really,
Speaker 2: and Drake may even acknowledge that that he kind of
Speaker 2: goes to the line of scrimmage and aside from a
Speaker 2: running back, they don't have much. Chris and Sacramento, Hi, Chris.
Speaker 5: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call New Years of
Speaker 5: My best of the weekend is actually the Eagles fitting
Speaker 5: Sae Kwon Bartney. I'm a diehard Eagle fan. The bigger
Speaker 5: picture is more important than the record, as much as
Speaker 5: I wanted to break the Richards. And the worst of
Speaker 5: the weekend coming out of Sacramento the firing of Mike Brown.
Speaker 5: I am so disappointed on how the King's Organization runs
Speaker 5: their organization. How do you fire somebody that gets you
Speaker 5: to where you haven't gain in seventeen years, changes the
Speaker 5: whole organization's thought process, and then you say, we go
Speaker 5: on a sixth game, resistet and you say full simulator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disappointing because I thought Sacramento had turned the
Speaker 2: corner here and by all accounts they had, and here
Speaker 2: we go again. It's just you know, people don't focus
Speaker 2: on Sacramento or this would be a big story, Like
Speaker 2: first take won't cover this if this was the Lakers
Speaker 2: or you know, a bigger market than they probably would
Speaker 2: and then it would be a bigger story. Uh, this
Speaker 2: was Golden State. But you know those Mike Brown I
Speaker 2: think was pretty critical of his players. I think dearon
Speaker 2: Fox reportedly had kind of tuned him out. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're trading some of these players, but even
Speaker 2: after the you know, halliber and trade, like, I thought
Speaker 2: that they had it. They were dangerous, they were young.
Speaker 2: Here they come and then there they go that quickly.
Speaker 2: Doug in North Carolina, Hi Doug, welcome.
Speaker 3: Back, Hey Dan.
Speaker 11: Thinking about Ricky Henderson today in what a horrible year
Speaker 11: it's been for baseball, Willy Mays, Pete Rose, now Ricky.
Speaker 11: Any of these folks could have laid claim to being
Speaker 11: the best living ballplayer. And I wanted to see with
Speaker 11: those three people, if you had to bet, which one
Speaker 11: has their life turned into a major motion picture first Rose,
Speaker 11: Willie Mays or Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 2: Well, Pete's had documentaries already, and I think Pete resonates
Speaker 2: with people young and old. Even you know, somebody's not
Speaker 2: a diehard baseball fan. They felt like he was put
Speaker 2: in baseball purgatory and deserved to be let out. And
Speaker 2: I think because of that, then he stands above even
Speaker 2: the steroid users. It was, hey, Pete was betting on
Speaker 2: his team. People make acknowledgments or concessions with Pete, and
Speaker 2: Pete was fascinating. Ricky was fascinating when he played on
Speaker 2: the field. Willie, when he was on the field, you
Speaker 2: don't know much about him off the field. Pete. We
Speaker 2: know an awful lot about Pete on and off the field.
Speaker 2: Amy in Arizona will try it again, Hi Amy, Hi.
Speaker 9: Dan, first time, long time, five two and three quarters,
Speaker 9: a strong one to thirty three pounds, best and worst
Speaker 9: of the weekend. For me, it's it's my Arizona team
Speaker 9: being able to end the game on fourth and thirteenth.
Speaker 9: I mean that, no, cult targeting sucks, but we don't
Speaker 9: know if that field goal would have would have gone through.
Speaker 9: But yeah, that's that fourth and thirteenth call. So but
Speaker 9: I think we should hold our heads high. The coach
Speaker 9: turned this program around, and yeah, I'm proud of my team,
Speaker 9: but still very sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh. I mean I get it. If I would
Speaker 2: have said you're going to go into overtime or double
Speaker 2: overtime with Texas before the game started and you don't
Speaker 2: know the outcome, everyone would have signed up for that.
Speaker 2: It was a great year. It's a fun year, and
Speaker 2: maybe there's something to build on. And that coach, he's fun,
Speaker 2: he's contagious. Yeah, Mark, And.
Speaker 1: The way that game started after that return, Oh, it
Speaker 1: is about to be a long night for the Sun Devils.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm super proud of them, the way they came back.
Speaker 3: Because Scatterbow is my new favorite player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's over there throwing up on the sidelines. I
Speaker 2: mean he was. He's ready to play.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paulie, if you ever been to ten prison a
Speaker 6: boot and rally as a very big thing, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Over there throwing up and then you go back into
Speaker 2: the game and hammer somebody. One hour in the books,
Speaker 2: two more to go. Glad you're part of the program.
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