Speaker 1: Look how it's only films to be varied with Hello
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried. Which My name
Speaker 1: is Prett Goldswin. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a Gallagher brother, and I love film. As
Speaker 1: Paolo Quelo once said, don't waste your time with explanations.
Speaker 1: People only hear what they want to hear. Someone could
Speaker 1: take the time to explain Marlon Drive to you, but
Speaker 1: you'd still insist it makes no sense. You have to
Speaker 1: let it work. It's magic on you. Why do you
Speaker 1: keep resisting it? Every week I invite a special guest.
Speaker 1: I tell them they've died, and I get them to
Speaker 1: discuss their life through the films that meant the most
Speaker 1: of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon
Speaker 1: Stone and even Bled Dambles. But this week it's the
Speaker 1: fantastic actor, writer and director mister Vincent Dinofrio. Get over
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Speaker 1: where you get an extra fifteen minutes of chat with Vincent.
Speaker 1: He tells me a secret. We talk about beginnings and endings.
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Speaker 1: Goldstein so Vincent Ginofrio. So Vincent Ginofrio is an amazing actor.
Speaker 1: You know him from Daredevil and Echo and Laura and
Speaker 1: Order Criminal Intent, and from Full Metal Jacket and from
Speaker 1: being very funny in the Breakup. We never met before.
Speaker 1: We recorded this on Zoom a few days ago. He
Speaker 1: didn't know the show, so he didn't know the format,
Speaker 1: but my god, did he get it quick. He was
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant. He was so funny, and I really think
Speaker 1: you're love this one. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty three of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is I
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a producer, a director, a Full Metal Jacketer
Speaker 1: and Ed Wooder, a man in Blacker, a Laura and Orderer,
Speaker 1: a dead devil, a breakuper, a magician, a hero, a legend,
Speaker 1: a drama, a comedy. The man. He's here. Can you
Speaker 1: believe it? It's true? It's really here. Please welcome to
Speaker 1: the show The Brilliant.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: It's so good to be here.
Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you, Vincent. Thank you for doing
Speaker 1: the show. I appreciate it. Where are you and what
Speaker 1: are you doing? And why?
Speaker 2: I'm in my apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 1: And are you working on something at the moment you
Speaker 1: can tell us about that.
Speaker 2: I am in deep prep for the new Daredevil series
Speaker 2: that we're about to start.
Speaker 1: Fantas can I ask what it is like to do
Speaker 1: something I assume you have loved and then there's been
Speaker 1: a very big gap, right, how do you feel about
Speaker 1: going back to it? Is it like exciting and im
Speaker 1: a weirdo or nostalgic or how does it feel.
Speaker 2: It's a character that I've played often now, so it's
Speaker 2: this will be so is the original Daredevil and then
Speaker 2: Hawkeye and then Echo. So this is the fourth, okay,
Speaker 2: series I've done playing Fisk, which is it's a strange thing.
Speaker 2: That's something that I've never done before in my career.
Speaker 2: I've played the same character in the same series for
Speaker 2: a long time, but I've never played the same character
Speaker 2: in four different series for a long time, so it is,
Speaker 2: it is odd. And with Marvel, you know, they have
Speaker 2: so many creatives over there that it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's always it's going to be a different writer, it's
Speaker 2: going to be a different conceptual team and directors, and
Speaker 2: so you know, even though it's under the same banner,
Speaker 2: same umbrella, it's it's always slightly different. So it keeps
Speaker 2: you on your toes for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you feel you've changed, like how you play it?
Speaker 1: Has it evolved for you yourself as actor or is
Speaker 1: it in something you feel very comfortable even slip in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it evolves. First off, as
Speaker 2: you know, my job as an actor is to service
Speaker 2: the story, and so each each series has been a
Speaker 2: different story. They're connected, but they're different for the reasons
Speaker 2: I just said before, and so so yeah, so my
Speaker 2: job is to service that the best I can, and
Speaker 2: so I try and do that. And then personally, there's
Speaker 2: certain projects that have a more comfortable tone where I
Speaker 2: think my character fits better in and I think that
Speaker 2: the last series I did Echo, my character really fits
Speaker 2: in that kind of adult tone. And in the Daredevil
Speaker 2: series that we're starting now, like the original Daredevil where
Speaker 2: it all started. It also has an adult kind of
Speaker 2: tone to it, which I think my character fits best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you also did you have played? You did
Speaker 1: Laura and Order you did for like nine years, ten
Speaker 1: years exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, you're you're You're you commit, you really commit.
Speaker 1: I also think that you are very underrated as a
Speaker 1: comic performer, and I think you in The Breakup is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite comedy performances. I think you're so
Speaker 1: funny in that film. And I really love that film.
Speaker 1: I think that's like a real gem and you're funny
Speaker 1: in it, and you're so funny in such an unusual way,
Speaker 1: like it's quite hard to work out. I just remember
Speaker 1: being like, this guy's fucking funny. I really like doing
Speaker 1: that thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you like doing comedy?
Speaker 2: I do? I do very much. I like physical comedy.
Speaker 2: I had a blast doing The Breakup. I had a
Speaker 2: blast doing them in black, like I do like that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I think that's what I think you
Speaker 1: should be doing more with that. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: word and I read that if I may, if I may,
Speaker 1: and forgive me because this might not be true because
Speaker 1: it's on Wikipedia. But that you're a magician or you.
Speaker 2: Or I was when I was a kid. Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 1: Really is that? Do you still have these skills?
Speaker 2: I have some skills, Yes, I did. They never work
Speaker 2: on Zoom, though they work live much better.
Speaker 1: Okay, well if we.
Speaker 2: But yeah I do. I do. I know of some
Speaker 2: really amazing card tricks that were taught to me by
Speaker 2: other incredible magicians. And I know some Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: how to do illusions and all of that stuff. I
Speaker 2: started when I was thirteen. I started reading books. There
Speaker 2: was a Cuban family that moved into our neighborhood and
Speaker 2: down in Florida, and this little town that I lived
Speaker 2: in at the time, it was a little town. Now
Speaker 2: it's a big place called Highlia, Florida. And this this
Speaker 2: Cuban couple moved into the next to the wind Dixie
Speaker 2: shopping center and I met them the first day they
Speaker 2: were open, and I didn't you know, we were poor,
Speaker 2: so I didn't have the money to buy tricks. But
Speaker 2: I befriended the couple and they used to give me
Speaker 2: instructions and they would lend me the instruction so I
Speaker 2: would go build this stuff on my own. And he
Speaker 2: turned me onto some books and I read a Houdini
Speaker 2: book that had the actual workings of the mail bag
Speaker 2: escape that he did. And so my mother's dream was
Speaker 2: to have this small, little kidney shaped pool in her backyard,
Speaker 2: and she finally got it somehow by saving her waitress money.
Speaker 2: And I practiced with my mom. I had a neighbor
Speaker 2: who worked for a sailboat company made me the mail bag.
Speaker 2: And then my mother was a waitress. And all the
Speaker 2: cops and firemen used to go to the restaurant. So
Speaker 2: I had them over and I had live at five
Speaker 2: over and they handcuffed me and they pushed me into
Speaker 2: the swimming pool in my backyard and I escaped successfully.
Speaker 2: And I was a working magician, and I was like thirteen, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's fucking serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but it was my first time. It
Speaker 2: was my first experience those experiences as a young boy.
Speaker 2: You know, we're obviously the first time was around stage,
Speaker 2: and yes, it was good for me.
Speaker 1: Now, so you've got a load of cops and fire
Speaker 1: fighters around, and they watched the thirteen year old boy
Speaker 1: he drowned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just cops. So just just the cops came
Speaker 2: over and yeah, I forget if it was two or
Speaker 2: three pairs of handcuffs on me and then put in
Speaker 2: the mail bag. It pulled with the chain and locked
Speaker 2: and then pushed me in. But I had, you know,
Speaker 2: we had made sure that you know, they knew, they
Speaker 2: understood that it was not it's not wasn't dangerous at all.
Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive, Vincent. I've forgotten to tell you something.
Speaker 1: I know we've just met, and I should have probably
Speaker 1: told you at the beginning, but uh oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just have to. I just have to say it. You've died.
Speaker 1: You're dead dead sorry, okay, yeah, okay with that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you die?
Speaker 2: It's well, I was on stage and it's ten years
Speaker 2: from now though, oh wow, okay, which is wild itself. Finally,
Speaker 2: I was doing leir on stage and I screwed up
Speaker 2: one of my lines. I couldn't recall a piece of
Speaker 2: dialogue and it made me. At first, I just thought
Speaker 2: I was going to cough, but it wasn't a cough.
Speaker 2: I think that the idea of not knowing my line
Speaker 2: for the first time in my career ten years from now,
Speaker 2: I think I was too old and too baffled by it,
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't. I just stopped breathing. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, And then I had cardiac arrest on
Speaker 2: the stage and I got a standing ovation because it
Speaker 2: was the last act. Yeah yeah, yeah. But soon they
Speaker 2: realized it wasn't part of the play, and several women
Speaker 2: came on stage and carried me on.
Speaker 1: Wow, on there they carry you off on their shoulders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ham I was saying, oh god, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Well like a log. Yeah. I don't think haml was
Speaker 2: carried off stage.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well in the film he is. And that's
Speaker 1: the only the anything I've understood vaguely understood.
Speaker 2: This wasn't that romantic. This was basically yeah, there was
Speaker 2: like several women. I think there was like seven of them.
Speaker 2: I hear from other dead people.
Speaker 1: Were they in the play, these women or they were
Speaker 1: just women from.
Speaker 2: They came up on stage. They were in the front row.
Speaker 2: There were was some kind of women's league or something,
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Where did they take you? They seem to
Speaker 1: know where they were going, these women. Where did they
Speaker 1: take their buddy?
Speaker 2: Just they took me right right down the block too,
Speaker 2: to active studio. Wow, where the birth of my acting began.
Speaker 2: And then and I'm still there. I'm still there.
Speaker 1: They buried you under it, or you're just rotting in
Speaker 1: the middle of there.
Speaker 2: No, they never buried me. They just left me in
Speaker 2: the garden. I'm in the garden.
Speaker 1: Right, right, So just sort of slowly getting sort of
Speaker 1: rutting away in the garden of the actitute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm next to the lie because the Strasbourg amazing.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that story. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is ten years from now.
Speaker 1: No, but I tell you this, when it happens, people
Speaker 1: will definitely talk about it for quite some time. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of what's also lovely, and I
Speaker 1: think a real sort of gentleman gentlemanly thing about your
Speaker 1: death is I think admissions to the actor studio, we'll
Speaker 1: go through the roof. I think it'll be a real
Speaker 1: uptick in applications, and that's because you're there, you know.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people be very excited to
Speaker 1: be to learn at your feet.
Speaker 2: You mean literally at my feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think they'll be very like, wow, we're
Speaker 1: so close to greatness, you know, and maybe some of
Speaker 1: it will rub off on them, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But what I'm confused about is that, well, I
Speaker 2: do like the notion of people being at my feet,
Speaker 2: but since I'm in the garden, yeah, yeah, you mean that,
Speaker 2: that's well, they'll be literally at my feet in the garden.
Speaker 1: I think, like, I don't know the layout of the
Speaker 1: actor studio, but I'm imagining people are going to class,
Speaker 1: They're walking past the windows, They're looking at your rough
Speaker 1: and corpse. They're constantly just their eyes are always drawn
Speaker 1: to it. They're distracted in class sometimes because I just
Speaker 1: want to look at you. And then in their breaks
Speaker 1: and recess they go downstairs and they sort of just
Speaker 1: hang around at your feet and just sort of sort
Speaker 1: of try and breathe it in and hope to sort
Speaker 1: of pick up some of the magic.
Speaker 2: You know. It's so touching. Yeah, it's so touching. I
Speaker 2: actually started to get emotional just.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a really I'll be honest. I've
Speaker 1: done this show a while. That's one of my favorite desks.
Speaker 1: I think that's very romantic and lovely.
Speaker 2: I just have to say that when you see me
Speaker 2: in the garden, though, I still have the expression of
Speaker 2: not being able to breathe on my face. So they
Speaker 2: put a planter close by my face so you can't.
Speaker 2: It's not a great look.
Speaker 1: So so there's a there's like foliage around your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but my feet were very clean.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, which was strange. You played lea barefoot,
Speaker 1: I remember, but your feet were just pristine. It was
Speaker 1: a real interesting choice. He was going mad, but he
Speaker 1: kept his feet clean. It was interesting. It was beautiful.
Speaker 1: And see the best performance of lir I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and the best ending. I think I killed it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you fucking killed it. Do you do you worry about death? Vincent?
Speaker 1: Is it a thing you concern yourself with?
Speaker 2: I worry about that particular death, but yeah, no other, no,
Speaker 2: other particular death. I don't like the death of others.
Speaker 2: Need too, that bothers me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks other things, other people in that context,
Speaker 2: death sucks as far as you know me. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, ten years from now, die on doing lyric.
Speaker 2: It's like okay, like, okay, I get that, I get
Speaker 2: it right. You'll be all right?
Speaker 1: Is there enough to life in your mind?
Speaker 2: There could be more ice cream?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well I'll tell you what. I got a
Speaker 1: surprise for you. There is a heaven and you'll go
Speaker 1: into it. And it is filled with ice cream. It
Speaker 1: is like one giant ice cream parlor. All the flavors,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, favorite flavor, what's your favorite flavor?
Speaker 2: Rocky Road?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you ain't seen this much Rocky road.
Speaker 1: There's a man in the rocky road. You can eat
Speaker 1: your way through it. It's rocky road everywhere, and other things,
Speaker 1: flavors you never tried. Everything's there. Everyone's very excited to
Speaker 1: see you, Vincent. They're very excited. As you arrive in Heaven,
Speaker 1: they all give you a standing ovation for your leah
Speaker 1: and they're like, we watched from up here that.
Speaker 2: Was in hand me, Like they hand your rose, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Well I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you've got ten years so just you know,
Speaker 1: made the most of it. But everyone in Heaven so
Speaker 1: excited to see you. They want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about your life, but they want to talk about your
Speaker 1: life through film. And the first thing they ask is
Speaker 1: what is the first film you remember seeing? Vincentinofria?
Speaker 2: So we're talking film, not TV show, right, correct? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it would have been to Tora.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, the driver never come up on this, but
Speaker 1: the driving and the drive in Yeah, where was that?
Speaker 2: Flora? Nice Toro, Toro, Toro. I pronounced it wrong at first,
Speaker 2: I said Torah, which is different, isn't it to Toro?
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Tora. Anyway, let's talk about both of those
Speaker 2: titles as if they're the same, dumb, so nobody is confused.
Speaker 1: You with Torah.
Speaker 2: In the car there was three people, Torah, Torah, and Toro.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, great? Who was your favorite?
Speaker 2: Torah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Good choice has to be hastivate some people. I think.
Speaker 1: I also think that's like a thing that's changed with time,
Speaker 1: because it used to be Tora that was everyone's favorite.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's kind of like the changing
Speaker 1: sort of political landscape, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know how, you know how like
Speaker 2: sometimes you make a choice too quickly and then you
Speaker 2: realize that, you know what I felt rush, So initially
Speaker 2: I was attracted to Torah, and then you know, I
Speaker 2: realized that Torah was more interesting and that Torah the
Speaker 2: other Torah had no significance whatsoever. So the Tora that
Speaker 2: I liked was just a I think I was rushed
Speaker 2: into it. I think Tora took over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the other the other tours. Sadly, it's like
Speaker 1: no matter what age you are, that tour is not interesting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it does it like
Speaker 1: the other two? It was? I think the first toy
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, sort of dazzled by, but as you
Speaker 1: sort of revisit it, you realize there's more depth to
Speaker 1: the other tourer. But the other tour is like sort
Speaker 1: of dead, dead weight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even know whether there could be to Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would have worked, It would have worked, would have.
Speaker 1: Worked, and it would have been tight, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing, because because the film is
Speaker 1: constantly trying to accommodate Tora, and you're like, we don't
Speaker 1: need Tora.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they won't wait too far. And then
Speaker 2: you know, there's Toro. Those three. I loved all three of.
Speaker 1: Those, flawless Toro, Toro and Toro. I defy anyone to
Speaker 1: pick a favorite, because they're just wonderful in their own ways,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Equally yeah and similar ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in their own, unique and identical ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's a good first film. Did it make you
Speaker 1: want to be in films or just you just wanted
Speaker 1: the case of the Tories.
Speaker 2: Well, it made me want to be Japanese and attack America. Right,
Speaker 2: And I think that started my imagination really going. And
Speaker 2: I think I just eventually saw Lawrence of Arabia and
Speaker 2: I realized it's not all about being Japanese.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's about being that.
Speaker 2: It's mostly about being English with blue eyes and belong hair.
Speaker 1: Yea, writing cameras.
Speaker 2: And even knowing that watching that film when I was
Speaker 2: a young man, Lawrence of Arabia, the David Lean movie,
Speaker 2: watching it, I knew that one day it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: politically correct anymore. I used to think a lot about
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff when I was an adolescent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the film that scared you the most?
Speaker 1: Do you like being scared? Vincent?
Speaker 2: I do like being scared? Yeah, the other? Do you
Speaker 2: know that film? The Other?
Speaker 1: Not the the other singular?
Speaker 2: Now that confused me. Just then the other signies.
Speaker 1: Well I know the others, the others, which maybe is
Speaker 1: the sequel to the other?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, the other.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, tell me about the other.
Speaker 2: It's about two blonde I think German boys or Austrian
Speaker 2: boys on a farm. I don't know that film was
Speaker 2: It was made in the early seventies. I believe that
Speaker 2: was a very scary movie. Super scary. Yeah, what happens
Speaker 2: in it? What did these boys do? Well, you you
Speaker 2: never really know if there's one or two of them,
Speaker 2: Like it's either one really fucked up kid or it's
Speaker 2: too kind of screwed up gods. Right, So it's just
Speaker 2: really scary. And you know, like there's one who's kind
Speaker 2: of normal and then there's one who's like the bad seed.
Speaker 2: And I remember him not liking I want to say
Speaker 2: it was his mom. I hope it wasn't his mom.
Speaker 2: Somebody He put a pitchfork in the bail of hay
Speaker 2: in the aren't because he knew that she used to go,
Speaker 2: like to go up there and pull around with some
Speaker 2: guy and they would jump into the bail of hey
Speaker 2: when they were done, after they finished their deal in
Speaker 2: the loft space of the barn, and they jump into
Speaker 2: So the pitchfork was propped up underneath the hay, so
Speaker 2: that one yeah, sh yeah. And that was either done
Speaker 2: by one or both of.
Speaker 1: Them, either one really fucked up kid or two slightly
Speaker 1: fights up kids. Yeah, Jesus, really scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I don't know, like that that
Speaker 2: had a huge effect on me.
Speaker 1: Ye, did it change the way you were in buns.
Speaker 2: Well changed the way I jump out of lofts into hey.
Speaker 1: For sure, Yeah, you don't forget that. Lesson, what about crying?
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you cry?
Speaker 2: The mist Old Yell? You're right?
Speaker 1: In the human.
Speaker 2: Such a fucked up ending. Why would they end a
Speaker 2: movie like that? I believe that they would end like that,
Speaker 2: films like that.
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I go, who is this for?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why does this have to happen?
Speaker 2: And you know, and to sell it to dog lovers,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Hey, it's a film about old Yeller.
Speaker 2: You know, all you dog lovers. Yeah, you know. And
Speaker 2: then fucking hell, the way it ends is so brutal,
Speaker 2: it's just wow, okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you read these things where they say like, oh,
Speaker 1: but these things teach kids about death, and it's good
Speaker 1: for them to learn about death. My friend said once
Speaker 1: when her when her dad died, she said to me,
Speaker 1: I realize now that Bambi and all these kids films
Speaker 1: where the dad did in no way help me. Like,
Speaker 1: at no point we're like, oh thank god, I saw
Speaker 1: oh Yeller, I'm fine about my dog dying. These don't help.
Speaker 2: No, but it does make the point. Maybe they should
Speaker 2: make more movies about dad's time.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like there's quite a few, though, I
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen a lot, and I still don't
Speaker 1: love the idea, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Trying to think of the last movie I saw where
Speaker 2: the dad died.
Speaker 1: There's a dad dying genre, surely. Well, yeah, maybe you're right.
Speaker 1: Maybe they've stopped. Maybe they've stopped killing dads in films.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's probably why she was so effective.
Speaker 1: By her dad's Yeah, right, we need to sort of
Speaker 1: get back to making dead dad films. Yeah, well, we've
Speaker 1: got some work to do, that's for sure. What is
Speaker 1: the film that you love unconditionally but critically it is
Speaker 1: not acclaimed. Most people think it's shit, but you think
Speaker 1: they're idiots.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a really tough one. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do people like Tremors?
Speaker 1: It's fucking great Tremors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that can't be wrong.
Speaker 1: I think people do like it. But I know why
Speaker 1: you why you've picked it, and and if if you want,
Speaker 1: I would allow it because it looks like a film
Speaker 1: that's not good, but it's really good.
Speaker 2: But it's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's now three three hundred Tremors films
Speaker 1: and a TV.
Speaker 2: Series and Kevin Bacons in it. Yeah, he's great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about the other side of it? A film that
Speaker 1: you used to love but you've seen recently and you think,
Speaker 1: I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 2: I hate when that happens. It does happen, though, you know,
Speaker 2: some films just don't hold up. I saw Arthur, and
Speaker 2: Arthur is still half of it is still really really funny,
Speaker 2: and then it's you're just waiting for it to be over.
Speaker 2: But it's really him Dudley Moore that keeps you going
Speaker 2: for half of the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good answer. I imagine that's very dated.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a long time. There's one
Speaker 1: for you. What's the film that means the most to you?
Speaker 1: The film itself might not be any good, but the
Speaker 1: experience you had seeing the film will always make it
Speaker 1: special to you. Eed a first date.
Speaker 2: Just hang on a second. So you got very excited
Speaker 2: when you said that last thing you sat up, you
Speaker 2: projected a little bit more. It's like tickets for all
Speaker 2: of our you know, like you were, I mean selling
Speaker 2: tickets on the West End or something. Tickets for all
Speaker 2: of us, tickets for all of us. You know what's
Speaker 2: what was the question?
Speaker 1: What you got distracted by the vibe?
Speaker 2: I was just so like, Wow, I got to get
Speaker 2: a ticket for all of them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right, Well, the question is what's the
Speaker 1: film that means the vice to you because of the
Speaker 1: experience you had seeing the film e g. First Date
Speaker 1: with a loved one in.
Speaker 2: That Cowboy go On for what I had never seen
Speaker 2: anything that honest and raw before. And there was all
Speaker 2: this stuff where I was living in New York as
Speaker 2: a young actor at the time, and even though it
Speaker 2: was made by an English director British director, you could
Speaker 2: smell New York in that movie. And I just I
Speaker 2: was at the right age. I was in the right
Speaker 2: place in New York, starving, you know, like like all
Speaker 2: the other artists, like sleeping in Central Park with my
Speaker 2: legs wrapped around my ten speeds so nobody would steal
Speaker 2: it sometights, you know, like stuff like that. And and
Speaker 2: then it had like these incredible performances, and it had
Speaker 2: this kind of this world of forty Second Street, that
Speaker 2: area of how it used to be back then. Now
Speaker 2: it's sort of like a kind of dirty Disneyland, but
Speaker 2: it's back then. It was like literally like it isn't
Speaker 2: in My Cowboy, and the homosexuality in it was the
Speaker 2: first time I had seen that in the movie, and
Speaker 2: that was a big deal for me. Like I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you can get this raw in a movie.
Speaker 2: You can get this real in a movie. You can
Speaker 2: be an actor and play parts like this. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like that was That's why.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty great onset.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Perfect.
Speaker 2: I matched your excitement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did. You know what I was like, He's
Speaker 1: selling tickets for forty second Street. I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm buying I'm buying one for the how the Women's
Speaker 1: commit just in case he drops dead.
Speaker 3: And a row for the a row for the Women's League. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the whole roll of them. They're very excited. What is
Speaker 3: the film you must relate to? Is there a film
Speaker 3: you relate to?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course, Wow, I think Sound of Music.
Speaker 1: Which which character Maria?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, because you're an inspiration.
Speaker 2: No, we just have the same octave in our voices.
Speaker 2: And also, I don't know, you know, I want to
Speaker 2: be surrounded by Austrians in little outfits like come on,
Speaker 2: it does fun you know what I mean though, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: and to have some guy in the house named barn
Speaker 2: something Bonds, Stroker or something like that, like something bizarre,
Speaker 2: something inviting though, but bizarre and just you know, running
Speaker 2: around in the fucking green hills and yodal and ship
Speaker 2: the little outfit with you know, the suspenders and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to live with that, I guess
Speaker 1: want to live with a guy who's like warm, but
Speaker 1: he also has a whistle, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all funny guys, but I do have a whistle
Speaker 1: and I will use it and that's dinner time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, like me and that cowboy, I
Speaker 2: can smell that at house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the realism. If that film is astonishing, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does feel.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're you're there in the little outfits? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're like just just singing your ass off in
Speaker 2: the hills. You know, the hills are alive, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Oh they're terrifying. But also every time you're saying
Speaker 1: good night, you never say good night, you sing it.
Speaker 1: You know it's time time for bed, time for song
Speaker 1: that's felt. Well, it's like a documentary, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: can see how you feel about that. It's a lovely answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't have to be Look, I just
Speaker 2: have one more thing to say about this.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 2: There's no right in the context of the answer to
Speaker 2: your question. So you don't have to be scared about
Speaker 2: the hills being alive, because it looked like you were
Speaker 2: scared for a moment. So let me look. Listen to
Speaker 2: my words. The hills are alive with the sound of music.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. I thought they they had like cannibal creatures
Speaker 1: in them. They were the eyes. The hills had eyes
Speaker 1: and they were gonna like eat. But that's not what's
Speaker 1: living in them.
Speaker 2: The hills are alive with the sound of music.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I feel better about it. Sorry, I freaked out.
Speaker 1: That's on me. What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Vincaid,
Speaker 1: the sexiest film I've ever seen? That's a really good question. Thanks. Thanks.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know a lot of people think this,
Speaker 2: but Paddington there too.
Speaker 1: Oh too. I mean I knew everyone felt that way
Speaker 1: about the first one. No, no, what about the sequel? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you either know or you don't know, I guess,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I do. You know what. I think it's
Speaker 1: because I was so spent after the first one. I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't think it could get sexier. But you're
Speaker 1: probably right. Yeah, it's one of the few sexy sequels
Speaker 1: that's more sexy.
Speaker 2: Well, if you ever do it, if you ever watch
Speaker 2: both of them again, hydrate.
Speaker 1: After the first one. Yeah, you really have to be prepared.
Speaker 1: That's a slug if you're doing that, if you're going
Speaker 1: in a double bit.
Speaker 2: You know, there's also sea moss. You know that, right,
Speaker 2: you can get jars of sea moss. Right, it comes
Speaker 2: in like a gel in the jar, just so that
Speaker 2: you you're not spent for the second one.
Speaker 1: Oh right, you just you just put it on there,
Speaker 1: put it on you.
Speaker 2: No no, no you no no no no no no
Speaker 2: no no no you you put it in your morning drink.
Speaker 2: Oh you just mix it in with a tea spirit, Okay,
Speaker 2: and it stays. It's it's really good to not I
Speaker 2: don't know, without getting too specific, to not be spent.
Speaker 1: I'm order Someoneline. Now there's a sub category to this question.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you take it, because I feel
Speaker 1: like you've gone hard on the first. The subcategory is
Speaker 1: troubling bonds worrying why dones. It's a film you found
Speaker 1: arousing that you weren't sure that you should have. But
Speaker 1: I don't know how how you feel about that, because
Speaker 1: you're you know, proud of pasiging too, as you should be.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you're shamedful.
Speaker 2: One is oh, shameful one. That's tough. It's tough to
Speaker 2: get shamed by a film.
Speaker 1: I mean if you don't, if all your bonus are proud,
Speaker 1: I respect that, you know. Not everyone can answer this question.
Speaker 1: Some people don't have troubling bonus. They're all good, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not ashamed of Yeah, I'm not ashamed
Speaker 2: of my favorite movie being Sound of Music or my
Speaker 2: success movie being Patting to Bear Too. Respect Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not ashamed at all.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't. I think that's great? What is the film that
Speaker 1: you could or have? What's the most? Over and over again,
Speaker 1: I gave you a bit too much energy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you listened, because forward you did.
Speaker 2: Every time you do that, yeah, yeah, it gets me
Speaker 2: a little overwhelmed. I watch Patting to Be Too way
Speaker 2: too often. I watch it way too often. I watched
Speaker 2: Paddington Bear too, way too often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a this is a fucking perfect film. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't argue with it. What about the worst film?
Speaker 1: What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, like from the Gecko from the first
Speaker 2: time I saw it. Yeah, there was one I can't
Speaker 2: I can't remember the title, but it was about citizen
Speaker 2: band radios and trucks in like big eighteen wheelers. It
Speaker 2: was called like, you know, some name that had to
Speaker 2: do with talking in one of those things when you
Speaker 2: said goodbye or something like ten four, not ten four,
Speaker 2: but like good buddy, yeah, good buddy, you know, like something.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was the man of the film.
Speaker 2: But it would be a good title. That's a good buddy,
Speaker 2: just good buddy. That would be a good title.
Speaker 1: Good buddy. Could be one about dead dad films that
Speaker 1: we make, Yeah, because it's sort of it misleads you
Speaker 1: in the same way like oh yeah, like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be fine, and we're good buddy, that'd be fine.
Speaker 1: Night that dad dies, right, it's not so good, yeah,
Speaker 1: not so good buddy buddy. At the end, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: tricked you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried to tell you, good buddy.
Speaker 1: I tried to warn you good buddy. Good buddy means
Speaker 1: over and out.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I'm not shrip does, but yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it does. Over and out would be yeah, what happened
Speaker 2: to Dad? Over and out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, good buddy, buddy.
Speaker 2: There is something sweet about it though. You have to admit,
Speaker 2: like you could just say buddy, but instead you'd like
Speaker 2: put the good in front of there. Yeah, it's smart,
Speaker 2: it's smart writing, Thank you.
Speaker 1: What is the funniest what's the film that made you
Speaker 1: laugh the most?
Speaker 2: The first half of Barth?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember in the second half, does it get
Speaker 1: does does he? It's not a film where he learns
Speaker 1: not to drink? Right? Is he doesn't learn that he's
Speaker 1: an alcoholic and he has to stop drinking and he.
Speaker 2: Never learns anything. And yeah, the funniest thing about the
Speaker 2: movie is that he never learns a thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: good and that Yeah, that money is everything. That's the
Speaker 2: funniest thing about the actually says that, Yeah, having Liza
Speaker 2: Manilla Manelli not Manella. Yeah, yeah, Manila is like a poisoning, right,
Speaker 2: Manella poisoning or something like?
Speaker 1: I think it's just an envelope, isn't it. It's a
Speaker 1: type of envulape.
Speaker 2: Like a Manila envelope. I think I'm saying it wrong. Anyway.
Speaker 2: None of what we just said has anything to do
Speaker 2: with Liza Minelli.
Speaker 1: No, who is it?
Speaker 2: So if you have Liza Minelli in your life and
Speaker 2: you have a lot of money, that's the moral to
Speaker 2: that story. Life is good, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, life is good, buddy. Life's good, buddy. Life is good, buddy. Vincent, sir,
Speaker 1: you know what a time, what a time we've had.
Speaker 1: You've been wonderful, and you wouldn't know for a second
Speaker 1: that you had no idea what this what this show was. However,
Speaker 1: in ten years time, when you play king Lear Bearefoot,
Speaker 1: you're on stage. I was sat behind the seven women
Speaker 1: the Women's League who were in the front row, and
Speaker 1: they were they were like this the whole the whole play.
Speaker 1: They were they were wrapped, really wrapped. They're just really
Speaker 1: in it. But there was a sense in them. I
Speaker 1: sensed that there was like a something was about to happen.
Speaker 1: They were ready, like they were ready to stand, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like they it felt like they
Speaker 1: knew they knew. I don't know how and basically you
Speaker 1: were like, what's my life? In your head, you're like,
Speaker 1: what's my life? What's my life? What's my line? And
Speaker 1: it was very powerful. What it looked like was lear
Speaker 1: is confused. You know, it's really confused. And then your
Speaker 1: heart started racing it and then it exploded and you
Speaker 1: collapsed onto the stage. Everyone stood up, everyone like, wow,
Speaker 1: that was what a choice. They thought, what a choice
Speaker 1: because it wasn't the end. What a choice. That is
Speaker 1: a bold choice. And then the clapping sort of died
Speaker 1: down a bit and you didn't move, and then that
Speaker 1: sort of whispering around like is he is he dead?
Speaker 1: Is he dead? And then the Women's League were like,
Speaker 1: that's so cute, and they stood up as one. It
Speaker 1: was very very beautiful, like almost felt choreographs, and they
Speaker 1: stepped on the stage and they lifted you onto their
Speaker 1: shoulders and they just walked off stage and people clapped
Speaker 1: and I followed behind because it's so beautiful. And we
Speaker 1: walked through the night and it was snowing. It was beautiful,
Speaker 1: and they walked through the active studio. Everyone, oh, bloody,
Speaker 1: there's Vincent's corpse. And then they just put you in
Speaker 1: the garden and there you lay to this day, rotting away,
Speaker 1: and students come from far away just to stand near
Speaker 1: your clean, rotted feet. And I came to visit one day,
Speaker 1: as you know, paying my respects, and I realized, Oh,
Speaker 1: if you're rotting here, we have to put we have
Speaker 1: to give you a DVD to take across to the
Speaker 1: other side. Because on the other side it's movie night
Speaker 1: every night. So what film are you going to take
Speaker 1: to show the Rocky Ride ice Creams in Heaven when
Speaker 1: it is your movie night? Vincentinofria ten for a good Buddy,
Speaker 1: for good Buddy, whatever that film was called. Okay, Vincent,
Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to tell people to watch,
Speaker 1: what to look out for with you, what to listen to?
Speaker 2: Well, Daredevil's coming out. We'll we got to shoot it
Speaker 2: first and it'll come out.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots of things that I can't talk about,
Speaker 2: but yeah, there's things coming Okay, cool stuff.
Speaker 1: Vincent, You've been in absolute joy and a delight. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time. I thank you enjoyed this as
Speaker 1: much as I have. I have thoroughly enjoyed it thoroughly.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Vincent, have a wonderful life. I look forward
Speaker 1: to your leah.
Speaker 2: Good day to you, sir, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: So that was episode two hundred and eighty three. Head
Speaker 1: over to the Patreon at patreon dot com, Forward and
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Speaker 1: secrets and video with Vincent. If you're in America, I
Speaker 1: have a look up my stand up dates. So I'm
Speaker 1: still doing a tour goes on for a few more
Speaker 1: months and probably coming to your city. If you live
Speaker 1: in the city, come and see the show. We'll have
Speaker 1: a right old time. Go to podcasts and give us
Speaker 1: a five star review, but don't give us a review.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think of the podcast. I
Speaker 1: want to read what film means the most to you
Speaker 1: and why it's a lovely thing to read it. My
Speaker 1: neighbor Maureen loves it and it always makes her cry
Speaker 1: and she always says, you got to read this one.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Vincentinofrio. He was so good. Watch
Speaker 1: all his shows, watch all his films. Thanks to Scribby's
Speaker 1: pip and distrack some pieces of network. Thanks to Buddy
Speaker 1: Peace for producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's
Speaker 1: Big Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam
Speaker 1: Richardson for the graphics that leads Ali them for the photography.
Speaker 1: Come and join me next week for another cracking guest.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. I really hope you're all well.
Speaker 1: That is it for now, have a lovely week, and
Speaker 1: in the meantime, please now more than ever, be excellent
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