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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's loose on one, titos

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Speaker 1: and soda. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: in a room build with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Wesling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Roseltal. What is up, boys, Hey Dan, it's

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Speaker 1: good to be back in the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, greeting us with some degree fahrenheit. Forget that

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Speaker 1: Celsius garbage weather. Oh yeah, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: statement I thought by the weather. Take by Greg that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm just saying. L A was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: remember me, remember how beautiful? It was a statement. It

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Speaker 1: was a statement game by the weather because the weather

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Speaker 1: usually is seasonably warm, uh is seasonably warm in LA

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Speaker 1: When we came back after a day of a week

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Speaker 1: don't fly away to you know anytime. So I like

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Speaker 1: the rain and like the trench coats and the umbrellas

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Speaker 1: as a as a changeup, just not as kind of

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Speaker 1: the permanent, but sit. Other than the meteorological elements of

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Speaker 1: that trip, it was an amazing trip up to England

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Speaker 1: again and the chance to catch up with all our

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Speaker 1: fans out there, and the live show was a huge hit.

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Speaker 1: I got to meet so many people, and um, everything

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Speaker 1: really was great. It was a great trip, Mark, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna talk what's up. I'm just absorbing the incredible

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Speaker 1: content and information that you've been, you know, providing about

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Speaker 1: the weather in Los Angeles for the first eight minutes

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Speaker 1: of this show. But the trip was amazing, and I

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Speaker 1: keep thinking, you do that thing where like if the

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Speaker 1: week ago was your vacation, you keep thinking, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, where was I on Wednesday morning in London time?

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Speaker 1: But then you have to add eight hours and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure out any of these equations. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It's just went by like a dream. I think the

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Speaker 1: we came off stage to thunderous applause. Mark pulled me

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Speaker 1: aside and he goes, Dan, pinch me. This is too perfect.

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Speaker 1: That is not you know, I'm not even an interfere

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Speaker 1: Like please believe that. That's how I approached You had

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Speaker 1: me until the too perfect part. It's like the fourth

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Speaker 1: then he lost. Um. I just actually wanted you to

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Speaker 1: pinch me, but you refused. You know, back in my

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Speaker 1: mailman days, when I desperately need an escape, before the

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Speaker 1: proliferation of the Internet, I had this idea of virtual

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Speaker 1: reality tours of like great cities and locations around the world.

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Speaker 1: You know, Anthony Bourdain came along and did that much

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Speaker 1: better than I have. You got on your corner before

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Speaker 1: kind of cool. And if you think about it, podcasts

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Speaker 1: function and kind of the same way as virtual reality tours. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: along for the ride when we do. And we see

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Speaker 1: that a lot at the live show. Are you saying

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Speaker 1: We have trades to get to. We have a trade

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football preview a great, great game. I think

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Speaker 1: all right, let's listen to it again. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Dan's mind. He has been listening to that by himself

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Speaker 1: from j. C. Treader, who then they need to resign.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the Rams uh. You know, they

431
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Speaker 1: probably think we can turn them around and fix it,

432
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Speaker 1: but they're gonna get stuck having new deal lower picks

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Speaker 1: or work on guys that are the teams are passing on.

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Speaker 1: I think directly relates to their lack of higher picks

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Speaker 1: in the draft, because how are you going to replace

436
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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, who's not going to be there probably after

437
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Speaker 1: this season, or probably shouldn't be. You're not gonna do

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Speaker 1: it with a fourth round pick or a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: That is where I do get concerned about the high

440
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Speaker 1: bounty of places. There's only certain places you can get

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Speaker 1: a left tackle right, and that there's no solution that

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Speaker 1: seems apparent for this year's offensive line. I mean, Austin

443
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Speaker 1: Corbett certainly, isn't it. They might as well take a swing,

444
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Speaker 1: but it's like there's no obvious way for them to

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Speaker 1: fix it. Uh and other Browns. Has this happened right

446
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Speaker 1: before we came upstairs? Myles Garrett tweeted out, I'll read

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Speaker 1: the tweet word for word. Here a quote fan closed

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Speaker 1: quote hopped out of his car to take a picture

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Speaker 1: with me and then punched me in my face. Put

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Speaker 1: your legs into it might actually made me flinch. Thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: Now this I'm kind of fascinated by this because Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett is the most arguably, of course, but I believe

453
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Speaker 1: the most physically imposing player in football. When you see

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Speaker 1: if you remember hard knocks. Just him walking around with

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Speaker 1: his shirt off, he seems super human. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean his size and his strength and his build. He

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Speaker 1: would be the last guy you would ever try to

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Speaker 1: sucker punch. And then there's all you know, now what,

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Speaker 1: who would do such a thing? Mark? Do you know

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Speaker 1: the person who did this? Let's start there. No, of

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Speaker 1: course not. But I mean, if if you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: and play the sucker punching fan role, why go I

463
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Speaker 1: didn't know there was I don't know this, I didn't

464
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Speaker 1: know these it. But you don't want to nail some

465
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Speaker 1: third round third string linebacker. Go for the height and

466
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Speaker 1: go for his you know, go for the best target

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Speaker 1: you kenn of moles Garrett, he just brushed it off

468
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Speaker 1: entirely because I think he's made entirely out of iron

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Speaker 1: and stone and can't be you know, knocked around by

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Speaker 1: some Jabroni fan. But to me, a non story. No,

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Speaker 1: that's an amazing story. It's not a great story, but

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Speaker 1: that's a story. Get it together. Find the guy and

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Speaker 1: lock him up, Find that dude him up, and you

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Speaker 1: know what, not legal. By the way, I asked him

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Speaker 1: about this, I want to know why you did it.

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Speaker 1: I got a feeling maybe he was looking for money,

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Speaker 1: he was trying to go the millionaire football player to

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Speaker 1: knock him out, But that's just speculation. By Let's move on,

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Speaker 1: very a little serious in the room right now. Let's

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Speaker 1: listen up a little bit, punching above your weight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go, keep moving. The Titans will start Ryan

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Speaker 1: Tannehill over Marcus Mariota against the Chargers. UM. That came

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Speaker 1: from rap sheet Tom Pella Sarah on Tuesday Night. This comes,

484
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Speaker 1: of course, after Mariota um struggled mightily against the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't lead the team past midfield before Tannehill came

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Speaker 1: on and finished out that uh sixteen to nil defeat.

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Speaker 1: So here comes Tannehill. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: greg saw this as a possibility at some point in

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Speaker 1: the season. Are you surprised that it happened in the

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Speaker 1: middle of October? I'm very surprised. Not. I guess not

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Speaker 1: as much after watching Mariota this season that happened, But

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have guessed that coming into the year because

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Speaker 1: Tannehill has so many of the similar issues that Mariota does,

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Speaker 1: which starts with kind of a lack of feel of

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Speaker 1: the position and reading defenses and and getting rid of

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Speaker 1: the ball quickly, making quick decisions. They're they're very similar players,

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Speaker 1: both verily very athletic. Uh, I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine Tannehill saving them. Well. They both

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Speaker 1: to use a phrase that Alec Mason or Buddy with

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Speaker 1: Sky Sports, they both eat sacks. They just loved munch

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Speaker 1: on sacks all day long. That's their style. And Mariota

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00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: had gotten to the point where he can't drive the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field or into tight windows. That was

504
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: never a strength of his and it had gotten worse.

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Speaker 1: The Titans by d v o A Football Outsiders Metric

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, inefficiency twenty seven in past twenty six and

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Speaker 1: run thirty two and pass blocking twenty seven and run

508
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Speaker 1: blocking twenty nine, yards per drive twenty eight and drive

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Speaker 1: success rate, they were miserable. They were down there with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Bengals and the Predarnald Jets as as

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Speaker 1: the dregs of the lead. And you had to you

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Speaker 1: had to change it up, you know. I was reminded

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Speaker 1: someone found a tweet of mine from Thanksgiving time two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. Mariota was coming off an eight game

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Speaker 1: stretch with a twenty one to three T D d

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Speaker 1: I NT ratio and a one eight team passer rating.

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Speaker 1: The Titans were averaging over thirty points a game during

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Speaker 1: that eight game stretch. That ended up being sort of

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Speaker 1: where the wave crested and then rolled back and washed

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Speaker 1: away his Titans career. Yeah, I don't a few of

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Speaker 1: the move as having really anything to do with Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a team that probably could have

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Speaker 1: benched Smart Mariotta last year and benched him for good,

524
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Speaker 1: and they're done with him. He's gone, he won't be

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Speaker 1: on the team next season, and it's probably a softer

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Speaker 1: entree into that move by simply putting Tannehill in there earlier.

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Speaker 1: I guess Mariotto probably start again just because they feel

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Speaker 1: like their problems are so significant offensive is dead lasting

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Speaker 1: pass blocking and their new play caller Arthur Smith hasn't

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Speaker 1: done it. But here's the thing. Malarkey was the peak.

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Speaker 1: He was peaked Titans. Everyone, including in this room myself,

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Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun at old Mike Malarkey's expense,

533
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Speaker 1: But you know what, it never got any better. That

534
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: was actually the best the Titans ever were exotic smash

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Speaker 1: mouth baby. There's a there's a discussion to be had,

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Speaker 1: what would you rather have the first round pick, especially

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Speaker 1: the you know, early first round, like Mariota was number

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Speaker 1: two overall that flames out spectacularly, or and you know

539
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly that he's not the answer, like a Paxton Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Or is Mariota almost worse a guy that you essentially

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Speaker 1: dedicated five years to, waited and waited and hoped and hoped,

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Speaker 1: and now where are they? I mean, they're a host

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Speaker 1: of nine and seven seasons, one playoff win, and now

544
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna essentially start over at the position. It's kind of,

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Speaker 1: in a way, a worst case scenario. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to building through the top of it. It's probably more

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Speaker 1: off seasons of trying. You know, this this narrative role.

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00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, Mariota's put on weight and blah blah blah,

549
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Speaker 1: and he's looking strong and like it's the same thing

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Speaker 1: with Winston. It's a half a decade under the river.

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Speaker 1: It's a different room in hell. It's I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it's not worse. It's somehow worse than the huge

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Speaker 1: But the worst possible result is don't getting Tannehill. I

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00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: mean Tannehill was seven seasons, right, or six seasons where

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Speaker 1: you gave him a second contract because he kind of

556
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Speaker 1: tricked you into it. In Borders was like that too.

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Speaker 1: Could say Dalton too, but I don't like Dalton. At

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Speaker 1: one point two thousand and fifteen they were Super Bowl

559
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Speaker 1: said dum let's leave. I just think for the healthy

560
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: your franchise, you're probably better off flaming out and then

561
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Speaker 1: trying again, because unless you're actually right, you just need

562
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: as men a perfect example, horrible, embarrassing, terrible, but very

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Speaker 1: quickly they were able to regroup and then go get

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Speaker 1: the guy that well all right. So you know, any

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Speaker 1: if you're a fan base that's lived through both kind

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Speaker 1: of failures, neither are pleasant, and there isn't a real

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Speaker 1: way to measure one being a lot worse than the other.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. But you want a front office that

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Speaker 1: has eyes open, that says, we're three years into this,

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Speaker 1: we could continue to sell people. Jamis Winston, He's gonna

571
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Speaker 1: continue to have three and four and five interception games

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Speaker 1: and then we'll give you a fiddling song dance all offseason.

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Speaker 1: The coach X is gonna fix them. But a good.

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Speaker 1: The better front officers say, we can self scout. He does,

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Speaker 1: he's not working. We're three years into Mariotta cut bait.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is why they rammed why the

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Speaker 1: Rams are trading away first round picks, But I think

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Speaker 1: it was war and Sharp tweeted out the top five

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Speaker 1: picks at quarterback in the last twenty five years. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty low hit. It is less, it is less than half,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and even the hits are you know,

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Speaker 1: includes guys like Stafford. It's great, is like so tough.

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Speaker 1: It's not that. Yeah, it's tough to evaluate your own

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Speaker 1: quarterback when you can't extract his surrounding talent and the

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Speaker 1: play color. And if you thought Ryan Tannehill replacing Marcus

586
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Speaker 1: Mariotta ultimately didn't really matter, I got something for you

587
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Speaker 1: even more down this path. Ryan Fitzpatrick will start for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins on Sunday against the Bill, sending Josh Rosen

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Speaker 1: to the bench. This comes four days after uh Brian Floores,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins coach, said that Josh Rosen, the second year passer,

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Speaker 1: will start for the rest of the season. He had

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Speaker 1: to change of heart and a lot of it, I

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Speaker 1: imagine had to do with Rosen's abysmal showing against the

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Speaker 1: previously winless Redskins, where he went fifteen eighty five yards

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Speaker 1: and two terrible interceptions. So it it's magic back in

596
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Speaker 1: and I you know, it does show you the difference.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Flores wants to win games, the Dolphins as an

598
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: organization want to lose games, while the coach wins on

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Speaker 1: this one because fitz Fitzpatrick absolutely gives them a better

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Speaker 1: chance to win, I believe at this time, but still

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Speaker 1: that what I mean, But it doesn't matter while the

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00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins are irrelevant, and also there's only so much anyone

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Speaker 1: could do, especially thirty six year old Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick

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00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: always gives you a better chance to win until a

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Speaker 1: game or two later when you come to the conclusion

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't give you a better chance that Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen will come and then Josh Rosen will come back.

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Speaker 1: The most exciting thing that happened about the Dolphins today

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Speaker 1: was their beat writer, uh for I think it's the

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Speaker 1: Florida Sentinel. Sophie Dean sent out a great hit of

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores knocking the teeth out of Frank Gore in

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Speaker 1: a college football game, forcing a fumble that was a

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Speaker 1: line back playing college football. I don't know what year

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Speaker 1: it was. It whatever, whatever year it is, Flora's said

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Speaker 1: some pop and I was excited to see it. Um, alright,

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Speaker 1: two thousand three is correct? Al right, West, buck up.

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Speaker 1: The NFL Competition Committee, uh, their chairman Rich McKay told

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Speaker 1: reporters on Tuesday, it's too early in the season to

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Speaker 1: make a declaration on the effectiveness on replay review of

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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive past interference. West. I know you want

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Speaker 1: to hear from Mr McKay, don't you know, Well, you

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Speaker 1: gotta hear from it. Anyway, I don't think ian that

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Speaker 1: that we would give indimation on whether a rule has

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Speaker 1: been in place actually does friends or not working. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let the season play out. Just

626
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: like in use of helmet last year, we waited till

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Speaker 1: the it was a new rule. We waited to the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. We went back and examined all

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Speaker 1: of it. We definitely looked at the officiating of it,

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Speaker 1: we looked at the teaching of it, and I think

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Speaker 1: we've gotten ourselves in a pretty good place. Chris Well,

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Speaker 1: it's like listening to Vince big Man. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: would I believe any of this. I think new listeners

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00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: might be surprised because I grumble a lot about the rules.

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Speaker 1: Check the archives of the first few years we had

636
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Speaker 1: this podcast, and I said every time football is so

637
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: much better than the other sports when it comes to

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00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: the competition committee making the game entertaining, progressing the game.

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Speaker 1: I used to say that all the time, and now

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Speaker 1: they can't get out of their own way, and it's

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Speaker 1: this competition committee. Look, this idea that we have to

642
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: wait till the end of the year to know this

643
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: is a debacle is crazy. So what's your goal? So

644
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: that by playoff time we're gonna have a totally different

645
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: role than the one that's been called all year, that

646
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna know what passers. All these guys have been

647
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: told you have to mug someone at the catch in

648
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: order for it to be called. It only matters if

649
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: it happens in January. That can't be a goal. It's

650
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: it's not a goal. It's like when the catch role

651
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: was in place, and we kept hearing this boogeyman of fumbles.

652
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, we can't change the catch role because then

653
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: there'll be so many fumbles. Wait, we had the similar

654
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: catch le ten years before that, and fumbles weren't an issue.

655
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: There's always some boogeyman now that they got to tell

656
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: us about. It's a credibility issue. It's a waste of

657
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: time issue. You cannot show something on a t V

658
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: screen and then tell people you didn't see that. That's

659
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: I mean, well said. Moving on, the Patriots made a

660
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: roster move. They suspended veteran defensive lineman Michael Bennett for

661
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: their Monday night game against the New York Jets. Why

662
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: it was contract conduct detrimental to the team. He did,

663
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: he was not a practice on Tuesday. Uh. He did

664
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: issue a statement to ESPN regarding the one week band

665
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: um on Friday. I had a philosophical disagreement with my

666
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: position coach that has led to my suspension. I apologize

667
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: to my teammates for any distraction this may have cost.

668
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: He played eleven sacks against the Giants, of eleven snaps

669
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: against the Giants, fourteen snaps against the Redskins, so it

670
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have the role he wants. But I'm just really

671
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: taken by how the Patriots even turned Michael Bennett into

672
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: a robot. I mean that from that's Michael Bennett Stephen

673
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: that that's what we got. A Michael Bennett after he

674
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: gets suspended, really wants to win that Super Bowl. They

675
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: turned him into a robot. Well, not on the field.

676
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: That's that's what Michael Bennett sounds like. Now, Mark, that's

677
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: what he sounds like. Celer I mean, I knew a

678
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: sound bit was coming, so I was interrupt tough crowd,

679
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: What what do we think about this? I, uh, well,

680
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: it's not a robot on the field. I think the

681
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: defense is different than they ever imagined. They played four

682
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: men uh defensive line almost half the snaps last year.

683
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: This year they play a four man defensive line virtually

684
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: no snaps. It's a three or four defense where they're

685
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: asking the defensive lineman to occupy blockers. That's not really

686
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: what Michael Bennett does or necessarily wants to do, probably,

687
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: and so he's not really playing. I mean, a guy

688
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: like Adam Butler is playing way more than Michael Bennett.

689
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: I think they'll find a way to use him eventually

690
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: because that's just what they do, or he'll be chopped

691
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: unless I mean I would love if he could come

692
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: in and maybe the Eagles could use him, you know,

693
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: in his normal role. I do wonder and there's been

694
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: speculation in New England like what do you have a

695
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: decent trade market that you get anything for Michael Bennett.

696
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: You would think the Eagles would be like, come on,

697
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: give it to me, We'll give you. Uh. I don't

698
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: know how many teams has Michael benneben on now. I

699
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: feel like it changes teams like three times a year

700
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: x Seahawks. Ever since he you know, generated his slight

701
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: towards you with the Super Bowl, Dan, It's it's been

702
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: He's been a journeyman. Almost forgot about that, think about

703
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: that all together. Uh. Finally in the news, brock Oswidler

704
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: announced his retirement. I'm extremely grateful for the time I

705
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: did receive playing in the National Football League, you said

706
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: an interview with nine News. Uh. He hangs up his cleats,

707
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: having earned forty one point three million dollars over seven seasons.

708
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: I'd retire to what more is to be accomplished? I mean, Bill,

709
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's pulled off a lot of career kind of

710
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: resuscitations or just like hanging, you know, walking that high

711
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: wire act and keeping it all going, surviving the brock

712
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Eiswiller fiasco to get to the point he is now

713
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: where he could make those Tonsil trades and everything else

714
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: that's actually looking great this year. Is was his greatest

715
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: feat because relywoold Bury lesser men signed signed him to

716
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: that big contract. But they were able to move him

717
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: out of town quickly Browns, and very quickly, Yes, was

718
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: able to diagnose, oh we botches, I botches. Let's go

719
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: get a young player who just so happened to be

720
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson. And by the way, as bad as

721
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: John Elway has been since the Super Bowl, he got

722
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: bailed out of that because he offered Ostwaller a ton

723
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: of money to stay in Denver. So we could this

724
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: elway messy post Super Bowl fifty legacy could even be

725
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: worse right now, but he got bailed out there. It's

726
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: a good point. People also thought that that the way

727
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: that the Browns traded Frostweiler to absorb a big, big

728
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: chunk of salary cap away from the Texans and get

729
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: a pick, that that would be the way of the future.

730
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: How many teams have done that since? Well, right, they

731
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: got Austin Corbett for the trouble right one of those,

732
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: but who knows, I don't know which pick it actually

733
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: turned out there are no ass Wilders in the future,

734
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: so it can't be away that is what it's happening

735
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: in the news. All right, let's uh, let's get to it.

736
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Trade scenarios that aren't stupid clickbait bying for idiots. So

737
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: throw one out there. Uh, we got to hear who

738
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: the players involves. I'd like to know the terms as

739
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: well to really decide whether or not this is a

740
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: a feasible trade. All right, I'll throw out one before

741
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: someone else throws out of Nick Foles. Smart. Smart, Now

742
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: you want to get in front of an exercise like

743
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: this so you don't lose one of you. This one

744
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: makes so much sense. Now, this Thursday's game, which we'll

745
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: get to in a second, could have an effect on

746
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. But let's say they lose this game,

747
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: and let's say they're thinking about next year. I think

748
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: they could trade a couple of veterans over to the

749
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars and get the quarterback they wanted all along

750
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: and Nick Foles, Chris Harris, Derrick Wolfe and a third

751
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: round pick for Nick Foles. Now that almost sounds like

752
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: a lot lot that's way too much Wolf is all

753
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Wilson Harris is a better player than Nick Foles. Here

754
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: you get here, listen to this, Chris Harris and Derek

755
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: Wolfer in the last year of their contract. It's just

756
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: for this year. Is just to make the Jaguars better.

757
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: This year. Wolf didn't look like his career would necessarily

758
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: be continuing maybe that long way, at least the way

759
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: he was playing earlier. So that's just again another guy

760
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: on his contract year that you're just taking a swing

761
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: at and a third round pick. Considering the price of

762
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks including you know, Nick Foles and and other trades,

763
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: I actually think that's pretty reasonable. You're you're basically getting

764
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: rid of two guys you want to get rid of anyways,

765
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: and you're trading a mid round pick, and suddenly you

766
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: have your starter, uh for late this season and then

767
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: into next season at a very reasonable price. Everyone's half away.

768
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: I'm doing that if on the Broncos, really, no way,

769
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Why would I believe better than than having Flacco and

770
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: Drew lock My yeah, My concern would be just what

771
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: is what is Nick Foles as a sixteen game start?

772
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: At this point, there's just too much evidence that durabilities

773
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: an issue and his stretches of play that's last beyond

774
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, three or four games away. If he's done

775
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: any he hasn't done anything right at quarterback, you gotta

776
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: keep taking swings until you get one. But costing the

777
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: third round pick Chris Harris Derik Woof and the possibility

778
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: of the two guys are giveaways. I mean, they're going

779
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: to give him away to someone, but you're also giving

780
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: up ten games of your season, right I I'm assuming

781
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose Thursday night and that they're not gonna

782
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be a factor. Uh two weeks from now,

783
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: they might be two and six. And it's always dangerous

784
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: bringing this up in this room, but so, but that

785
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: would also then be turning over the franchise to Gardner

786
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: Minshew after four games. No, I like, I'm not gonna

787
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: come at you about that, because I think you need to.

788
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: You need to be sure about Gardner Minshew because the

789
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the first round quarterbacks that

790
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: flame out, There's been just as many stories of guys

791
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: that turn it on for six or seven weeks then

792
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: they're totally exposed. And so I'm not saying I'm not

793
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: saying that's what I think me too is But it

794
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: would be a big leap to Folds, who you had

795
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: coveted for a long time. You you give him the deal,

796
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: you get him on the first day of free agency,

797
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: and because he gets hurt and the this unknown comes

798
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: in and lights it up, you make the move. Right,

799
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna be concerned about the sample size of Nick

800
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Foles as a starter. Well, we should definitely be about

801
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: a rookie who has been exciting but been in there

802
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: for a month plus. Alright, not bad, right, not bad

803
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: at all? A little click baby, but yeah, but yeah,

804
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get too upset. Anything with Fools is going

805
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: to be click baby. All right, Um, you know what

806
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm feeling generous. I'm gonna stay out of the way here.

807
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: I want to hear more from you guys. We well,

808
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: we talked about that the norm you what is the

809
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: norm around the league? And what we talked about zigging

810
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: when everyone else is zagging well over pain and swinging

811
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: for the fench is worrying about the future later is

812
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: the new norm? The Rams, the Texans, the Steelers with

813
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Mica fit Patrick, Chiefs with Frank Clark, Bears with Khalil

814
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: Mack Saints with Marcus to have import forty Niners with

815
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: d Ford, and I've got the Trent Williams to the

816
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Browns thing. There's some smoke here. I don't know if

817
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: there's any fire, but there's definitely some smoke with John Dorsey,

818
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Brown's GM saying he's had a few conversations with Redskins

819
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: GM Bruce Allen, but it takes two to tango. Canton

820
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: Repository reported that Trent Williams should be on the Browns

821
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: roster quite soon. Seems like more of a rumor than

822
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: than anything else. But um, there does appear to be

823
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: smoke here, and I think the Browns would have to overpay.

824
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: We're in a seller's market and right now you have

825
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: Bruce Allen running the football side of one of the

826
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: most valuable franchises in the NFL. And instead of mining

827
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: that thirty one year old with major dirty durability issues

828
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: and no intention of ever playing for your team for

829
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: a bounty of draft picks to rebuild your opting for spite,

830
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: you're just saying, I'm waiting, I'm not gonna I'm not

831
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna trade him, but let's get him benefit of down

832
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: and saying he's simply holding out for a godfather deal

833
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: in an obvious seller's market. What about a first, third,

834
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: and fifth round pick for Trent Williams. Browns have an

835
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: extra mid round pick for Duke Johnson and another fifth

836
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: for White Teller trade, so they've got some extra pick.

837
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: This one actually reminds me a little bit the Amari

838
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Cooper trade. The need is for a number one wide

839
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: receiver and there's only one available. Now the need is

840
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: for a left tackle. There's only one available. You have

841
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: to overpay if you want him. The reason I do

842
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: it if I'm Cleveland, whether you like the cost or not,

843
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: is that the problem isn't going away. You're gonna have

844
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: to go into the off season where probably he's the

845
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: number one tradeable target still if that's what the Redskins

846
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: are saying they want to do, or you have to

847
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: hope that you hit on a left tackle in the draft,

848
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: which has been a dodgy proposition for teams too. We

849
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: know he's good, you're you get him this season and

850
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: you get him into the future. And he's not a

851
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: young left tackle. It's not Laramie Tunsel. So the sooner

852
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: the better, And if you're the Redskins. You're gonna get

853
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: more now, I think than you would six months from

854
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: now in the off season, and resume from the brown

855
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: side of it. He's gonna want to become the highest

856
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: paid left tackle in the league, right otherwise he's going

857
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: to be his upside. I know there was a medical

858
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: stuff with Washington. I don't think this is about money.

859
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: It's always about money. Everything's about I think Washington he

860
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: feels burned by the way. That's a big part of this.

861
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: He wasn't looking for a new deal. He doesn't. He

862
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for the Redskins if he gets traded.

863
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: You don't think he's gonna be looking for a new contract.

864
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: But then you give him a new deal because it's work.

865
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: The assumption, which I guess could be flawed, that Trent

866
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Williams wouldn't want a new deal um to replace his

867
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: current one. You have O'Dell Beckham, one of the highest

868
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: paid wide receivers in the league. Baker Mayfield on a

869
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: rookie deal but won't be forever, and we'll get one

870
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: Mondo money, Nick Chubb. You already have Miles Garret, who's

871
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: gonna need big money. You have Denzel Ward, who's gonna

872
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: need big money. I guess the one thing you get

873
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: in trouble with potentially and bring in a veteran left

874
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: tackle is you don't want to be top heavy team.

875
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: We've talked about that on the on this podcast, but

876
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: the name you mentioned makes it they should pay for

877
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Trent Williams now because Baker Ward and Chubb Well also,

878
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: we can't we can't like talk about the Rams being

879
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: at the forefront of team building by paying all right,

880
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: I don't think they're paying five or six veterans exorbitant money.

881
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: The Browns are talking about three or four people that

882
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: aren't gonna get paid for the least two more. The

883
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: sunset and all this is there's a new CBA coming

884
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: one in theory, and I think the Rams are playing

885
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: a little into that uncertainty. Where is this cap gonna go? Like?

886
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: What what is that landscape gonna look like? In general?

887
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: Who knows? Trent Williams is about as high risk Kyrieward

888
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: as you can possibly have. He's not Laramie toun Soil.

889
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: He missed. He didn't play that well last year. In

890
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: the previous two seasons he played through a torn Patel

891
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: attendant and then last season he missed time with thumb, knee,

892
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: and rib injuries. He's also one of the great left tackles,

893
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: the borderline Hall of Fame player. If he had been

894
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: on a different franchise, maybe even with this franchise, so

895
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: he could be a total win and it, but there's

896
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: a ton of risk that comes with it. Mark, Alright,

897
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: this one is this is guy someone I thought would

898
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: have been traded before and he wasn't it smell Vin

899
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: Gordon And here the reason I think you have a

900
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: seller potentially in the Chargers' is because of the elongated holdout,

901
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: because he's returned to the field and he's just not

902
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: really a fit and he's not boosting the offense. You

903
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: are you are already super deep at the position. If anything,

904
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, and it's not his fault, has come back

905
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: and reduced the value of Austin Ekeler and kind of

906
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: the offense for the last couple of weeks where they're

907
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: trying to shove him in there and give him increased carries.

908
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: It just feels like you're carrying into all the wrong ideas. Here.

909
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: I want to hear where you see him going, because

910
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: well I kind of was racking my brain on that

911
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: where Melvin Gordon makes sense. It's it's not it's not

912
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: an immediate home run this minute. But the reason I

913
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: think it would make sense is that you're the Buffalo

914
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: Bills that are gonna need to run heavy team no

915
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: matter what because of the quarterback you have. Frank Gore

916
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: has been good this year, but after this season, frank

917
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Or will not be on the Bills. Devin Singletary is valuable,

918
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: but behind him you've got nothing. So you'd have Melvin

919
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: Gordon and Devin Singletary rolling into the off season, and

920
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: I think you signed Melvin Gordon with not even worrying

921
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: about it to a long term extension, and you have

922
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: a backfield to battle against. I had bills for Melvin

923
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: Gordon too. I like it look at that. I think

924
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Singletary is a guy, a core piece to build around.

925
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: The problem is you haven't just you just haven't seen

926
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: it too much. And if he be right, he should

927
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: be paired. It's not a bad thing to pair him

928
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: with someone anyhow. I don't like that for you know,

929
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: franc Or anywhere. I don't think who was playing college right.

930
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Melvin Gordon is necessarily field ready at

931
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: this point, so I don't think he has to go

932
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: play thirty snaps for the Bills next week or something.

933
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: I also didn't mention the terms, so they got him

934
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: for nothing. I would like to know the terms. What well,

935
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't work you can. I don't think you can

936
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: get a first round pick from Melvin Gourield. That's just me.

937
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm not great. I think second round pick, second round,

938
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe even third and third and something else instead

939
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: of a second. You know, I don't even think you

940
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: can get a second. I'm not sure. I don't know

941
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: if you can get a third. Third seems third feels

942
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: like you could. You could have a high value. I mean,

943
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: everyone's got a third for Tyrod Taylor, you got, you got,

944
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Devin whatever. If you're willing to pay a Gordon money

945
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: to a third, and that's a lot mark. You really

946
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: brought that in for the landing. Good job, thank you,

947
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: nice player, nice team. Even the terms were pretty good. Also,

948
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: a thirty five year old running back, it's reasonable to

949
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: suspect that he may not be as strong in January

950
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: as he was. Hey, I remember you honking about Frank

951
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: gar being done about four years ago. He's still chucking

952
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: breaking records. He's chucking and chucking records. All right, I

953
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: will now go maybe I'll even snake it. Get a

954
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: double on this one. All right? You have three touchdowns

955
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: last week. Value will never be high or he still

956
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: hates his quarterback and doesn't want to be in Minnesota

957
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Stefan dis uh And I think about who really it

958
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: was a contender who really needs wide receiver help. It's

959
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Now do the Vikings want to

960
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: trade one of their top one of their top um

961
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: offensive assets to a division rival. Probably not. So this

962
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: is more um yeah, maybe a little click baity, but

963
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: also a logical fit because I think the Packers need

964
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: help even with Davante Adams healthy, which he is not,

965
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: and he might not be healthy all year. Well we'll see,

966
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: turf tell it's not something you mess with. So the

967
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Packers might find themselves in a desperate situation where they

968
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: really feel like they need to make a move. Because

969
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: I will say that MVS. You know Jury is out there,

970
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: but he hasn't come exploding out of the gates in

971
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: his number two slash number one role with the Packers.

972
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: That's fair Dog Groo Jonimo Allison, same thing. And he

973
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: actually exited uh their last game with an injury, so

974
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: he hasn't jumped off the page. I know the Lizard

975
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: had a big, big catch. I didn't even know who

976
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: that person was before Monday. I love the Aaron Aaron

977
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers stair to the sideline when Lazar caught the touchdown.

978
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: Like see, I told you this guy could place. The

979
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: Lizard can play. But you know we we they need

980
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: contributions now so this offense does not stagnate. I mean,

981
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: if we're not counting on Gardner minshew, we're not or

982
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: should be be counting on Lizard. I am not. That

983
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: would be a happy surprise if he ends up being

984
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: their top wide out or a big contributor. So Stefon

985
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Diggs wants out, send him to the Packers, uh and see,

986
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: sometimes you can get cute with the terms. Here. You

987
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: send a second and a fourth to Minnesota and they

988
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: send you Diggs in a fifth and everyone is happy.

989
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: Why why would the Vikings be happy with hey Viking,

990
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: Hey Packers come beat us this year in the division.

991
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Why would they be happy? Because Diggs is unhappy? And sometimes,

992
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: as we learn in the NFL, you lose your agency

993
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: as an organization. When a man doesn't feel good anymore,

994
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: they have all the agency in the world. They control

995
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: his rights. They this team is any team out there.

996
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: The Vikings are in win now mode. I don't I

997
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: just don't see them giving up Steffon. I think they're

998
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: like they're also Jaguars that the Patriots, the Jets, and

999
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots are never the Raiders thought there win now mode.

1000
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: They're never trading to you. Guys got to catch up

1001
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: to the times. It's not about whether teams want to

1002
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: keep guys anymore. It's whether guys want to say, you

1003
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: gotta add a first round picking then something. Why Because

1004
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: Stefon Digs is the best receiver on that team, better

1005
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: than Adam Feeling, and he's one of the best in

1006
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: the NFL getting open. That's a hot take. He's a

1007
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: top twenty NFL receiver. You're not gonna trade him to

1008
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: your big division rival almost under any circumstance. I would say,

1009
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: I would say even if they were one and four,

1010
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't much less four and two. I just

1011
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: feel like, if you're going to give him away for

1012
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: that low cost, not that far after the Amari Cooper deal.

1013
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna get targeted by your fans and others to

1014
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: track team that they're you're gonna they're gonna come all

1015
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: over that. I just I just think that. I just

1016
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: think that I wasn't wondering if anyone was gonna everyone

1017
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: did so. I just think you guys saying like, oh,

1018
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: at four and two they want to do it. Maybe

1019
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with that. This is the

1020
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: modern lance game of the NFL. It's really tell me

1021
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: a division rival that's just giving away really wants to

1022
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: no longer be on the vikings. He knows what he

1023
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: has to do to do it. It's different. Stefen Dicks

1024
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: just signed a five year deal or four year deal.

1025
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean he just signed to re up with this team.

1026
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: James Brown just signed a deal with the Raiders. Antonio

1027
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Brown is a crazy person. I stand by my trade

1028
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: and now I'll snake to another deal. The Eagles they're

1029
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: not going anywhere if they don't fix that secondary. Let's

1030
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: face it, that's been a problem all year and they

1031
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: couldn't even compete. Speaking of Stefan Diggs in Minnesota, they

1032
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: went to Minneapolis and couldn't even compete in that game.

1033
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: They just got roasted by Kirk Cousins. Uh in that game, Uh,

1034
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, giving up over three d yards and four touchdowns,

1035
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: and it's it's a recurring issue for them. They need

1036
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: help in that back end, and you know, the Eagles

1037
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: a team that's in the mix, even if they've been disappointing,

1038
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, trade or how, he's gonna be busy. There's

1039
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: gonna be at least one Eagles trade before the deadline,

1040
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe more so. I'm gonna just piece it together that

1041
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna go get a cornerback and I'll throw out

1042
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Gennaris Jenkins of the Giants, a veteran who's up and

1043
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: down as a player. But perhaps with Jim Schwartz on

1044
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: that defense, they say, hey, maybe we could you know,

1045
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: help this guy out build his uh improve his game

1046
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, and maybe he's revitalized getting

1047
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: out of New York where it's been a pretty rough

1048
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: sledting since he got there. Pretty much he's got one

1049
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: more year left on his deal. Uh, he's you know,

1050
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: overpaid for what he's given the Giants, but it's not

1051
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: something that's gonna bring down the organization. If the Eagles

1052
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: can make it work financially. So Jennaris Jenkins, how about

1053
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick to the Giants an exchange for Jenkins?

1054
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: I admire you because there it's aggressive. There, that's that's

1055
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: there's a statement, and so I mean it's aggressive to

1056
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: suggest two inside division trades back to back in the

1057
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: snake position in our draft. So I think he's in

1058
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: this job there. Yeah, I thought about the the same

1059
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: combination I had generous Jenkins going to the Seahawk because

1060
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants would help the the Eagles potentially, um,

1061
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: they'd let me get him off their books, though, I

1062
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: think they would be happy to dump him at this

1063
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: point and he would not be on the team. And

1064
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: that's why I don't think it would cost that much.

1065
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: I think you're right, he's not on the team next year.

1066
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: They might as well save the five six million dollars

1067
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: he's still owed this year. Uh, the Seahawks seemed like

1068
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: they would maybe take a crack at old Jack Rabbit,

1069
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: put him on the other side of Jack Griffin Jack

1070
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: Rabbit Jenkins. The Eagles did get good news today Jalen

1071
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Mills and Ronald Darby. Who are there two best cornerbacks

1072
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: in a world where they're healthy, although they haven't been

1073
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: in a long time, returned to practice so that that

1074
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: could help them. Greg, excuse me, we're snaking, Mark, Well,

1075
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: I will make quick I'll make quick terminology on on

1076
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: your Eagles path because I had a lot of teams,

1077
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: a lot of players going to the Eagles, and I

1078
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: like the position to I think. I think Chris Harris

1079
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: to the Eagles is out there because he gets mentioned

1080
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: over and over and whispered about in these trade rumors

1081
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: and where is this coming from? Just thin air and

1082
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's taking coming from the same guy

1083
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: who's selling cars out in Denver. That's what I think,

1084
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: well exactly, and I think that Chris Harris to the

1085
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Eagles also, Eagles Broncos are not gonna toy with each

1086
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: other at all this season. There's no you know that

1087
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: it's an easier trade partner. And the Chris Harris is

1088
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: not long for Denver. I don't think so Eagles. But

1089
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a much better player than Genorris Jenkins.

1090
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: So I think, I mean, there's a reason the reason

1091
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and not in a in a front

1092
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: office because the term the terms are always shaky but

1093
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: a third round pick for Chris Harris that feels like

1094
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: the Broncos didn't get ahold, Like your confidence falls off

1095
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: a table and it comes times for the because the

1096
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: terms are ridiculous to me. And most of these deals

1097
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: and I think they're often surprised. They're also shifting. People

1098
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: are paying way more now than I remember any time

1099
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Compensatory pick is part of it is

1100
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one if you Chris Harris leaves and

1101
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: you know the formula, you're expecting to get one for

1102
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: the formulas West you're up, Dan, would you take a

1103
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: second round pick for Leonard Williams? All Right, it's a deal.

1104
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams to the packers for a second round pick.

1105
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: He he and Dean Lowry Book and Kenny Clark they're

1106
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: not gonna give. I'll tell you why I do because

1107
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: and I like Leonard Williams, even if he never became

1108
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: like the Warren Sap or whatever people always say about

1109
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: interior alignment when they get drafted high in the first round. Um,

1110
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: they're not going to give him a massive contract after

1111
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: the year. And somebody's gonna be willing to look at

1112
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: his potential and give him huge money and free agency,

1113
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: so you're gonna lose him, and then what would you get,

1114
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: Probably like a third round pick. So if you're offering

1115
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: me a second round pick, let's go to the Packers

1116
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: who sent him out of the conference. And you know

1117
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: that's a play better run defense last week, but run

1118
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: defense has been an issue. He could line up there's

1119
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: a three or four defensive end. That's where he belongs anyway.

1120
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: And they have Quinnin Williams there, of course, who they

1121
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round this year. So I don't

1122
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: know why we're always trying to make the Packers better,

1123
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: but I like it. Yeah, and there's Mike Patton. He

1124
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: didn't cross over with Leonard Williams, right, You don't get that.

1125
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: Would have liked to think, Uh, yeah, it makes sense

1126
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah it does sound you keep on hearing

1127
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: it in the among the Jets beat writers that they

1128
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: are going to make a move. I do wonder, though,

1129
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: what would happen Greg if, by some miracle they beat

1130
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots on Monday Night, if that would change everything

1131
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: about their philosophy. You've heard Robby Anderson thrown up, thrown

1132
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: out there as a possibility. Leonard Williams is being bandied

1133
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: about constantly. Well, the shade deadline is is two games

1134
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: away for all these teams, so that's a lot more information.

1135
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: If the Broncos, for instance, win two games, they're probably

1136
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: not going to be looking to be as aggressive as

1137
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: if they're two and six. It makes a big difference

1138
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: than the Jets. I would throw into that camp. Generous

1139
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: was my second one. But I'll just throw out a

1140
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: player I think can help a team. How about Kenyan

1141
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: Drake to the Colts for a fifth rounder. I think

1142
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake could be a great extra weapon on an offense.

1143
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: Colts could use some more weapons, and I do not

1144
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: think it would cost much to get half a year

1145
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: a Kenyan Drake. I've got Kenyan Drake to the Jags

1146
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick because Leonard Fournette in the

1147
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: passing game turns around like sort of like a cruise

1148
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: ship in the Panama Canal. Wouldn't have to move like

1149
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: if you know you're moving from one Florida residency to

1150
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: like Owen Daniels in Week one, two thousand thirteen season,

1151
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: like Jason Wentton after his drop last week, Poor Jason

1152
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: still having a better year in made some place having

1153
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: a better year than Jimmy Graham is. He's come back player.

1154
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Let's just say it. There now reports around the Packers

1155
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: with the headline Jimmy Graham not ready to lose snaps

1156
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: just yet. That's that's the kind of season that we're

1157
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: talking about with Jimmy Graham. Wait until Tanyan comes back. Alright, alright,

1158
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: good seg, good seg. Thursday Night Football coming up week seven.

1159
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: It's a freight train. And I understand if you're a

1160
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: fan of the Lions of the Packers, you feel like

1161
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: you got jobbed Monday Night Football. Uh, the way the

1162
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: timing fell with our podcast this week, I get it, don't.

1163
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, don't take a personal It's just a matter

1164
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: of timing. But when we hit the preview, the Thursday

1165
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: show preview, we will hit those teams hard and we'll

1166
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: touch on what happened to Monday Night. And yes, Lions fans,

1167
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: we know you know we're we're here for you this season.

1168
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: I think they like they have to have noticed an

1169
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: uptaken our interest in them and attention towards We were

1170
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: as furious as Kevin Patra about the officiating in that game.

1171
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: Well not me. I got a lock out of it.

1172
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: But everyone else deserves to be angry about those penalties.

1173
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Somehow that got mentioned. I Uh, I mean, I think

1174
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: are nice words that we've said about the Lions will

1175
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: more than make up for their back to back gut

1176
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: wrenching losses. So now uh speaking of the a f

1177
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: C West, because we were speaking about that division earlier

1178
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: on today's podcast. The Kansas City Chiefs coming off back

1179
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: to back losses, both at home, by the way, sleep

1180
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: on that a little bit. It's one. It's one of

1181
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: the one thing to drop a couple of games on

1182
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: the road during a long season. But when you do

1183
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: a one two at home, now you gotta go on

1184
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: the road. Well, let's see how they respond to that.

1185
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: They go to Empower Field at Mile High West to

1186
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: face the Denver Broncos. Who it's it's it's interesting because

1187
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs they win for to start the season and

1188
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: lose two. The Broncos they lose four to start the season,

1189
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: and I win two. And this is a game West

1190
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: where we're gonna learn a lot about where the Chiefs

1191
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: are offensively because the Broncos defense has figured it out.

1192
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs already ruled out Sammy Watkins, Kendall Fuller, their nickelback

1193
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, their best defensive player uh and offensive left

1194
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: tackle Eric Fisher, left guard Andrew Whalley. They are extremely

1195
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: shorthanded and we're outplayed last week when they were shorthanded.

1196
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: Now they got to Denver where the defense just in

1197
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: the last two weeks has jumped from the late twenties

1198
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: to number eight in d v o A. They are

1199
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: now a top ten defense. Shout out, I'll do that. Well,

1200
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: it's too I think two dominant showings in a row.

1201
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: Um and then if you throw in the Jaguars game

1202
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: the week before, dominant for about two and a half

1203
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: quarters of that one as well. So you're you're playing

1204
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: at Denver defense that has transformed the last few weeks.

1205
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson playing at a very high level. Alexander Johnson,

1206
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: They're inside linebacker I talked about on Sunday's podcast has

1207
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: been one of the best inside linebackers in the league

1208
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Mike Purcell moves into the starting

1209
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of changes on that defense and

1210
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: they're playing well. You hear it that that is you

1211
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: guys from West what's it's excited excited. It's coming back.

1212
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: They've got them, They've put them, They're they're going back

1213
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: up the row. Coach, I say that I can see

1214
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: that I was too high on them in the summer,

1215
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: but I think I think I have been on their

1216
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: pulse since the season started. I know what this Broncos

1217
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: team is, and a lot of people don't. Well this

1218
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: their season comes down to Thursday night. I mean it's

1219
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: over if they lose this game and they're two and

1220
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: five as far as I'm concerned. But you win, and uh,

1221
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: this is kind of a fork in the road game

1222
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: for the a f C West and they're one game

1223
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: out of the top spot in the division, and the

1224
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs have all sorts of problems and you already have

1225
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: a win over the Chiefs. The Raiders are weirdly in

1226
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: the mix, and it's a totally different division. This is

1227
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: a type of game though, I think that great players,

1228
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: historic type of players, they just they go find a

1229
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: way to win it. Your team is banged up, You're

1230
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: you're facing a less talented Broncos team on the road,

1231
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: it's a short week. You just need Patrick Mahomes to

1232
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: go in there carry you get an ugly win, get

1233
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: out of town, Bury, the Broncos, Bury, the ball Tony Sobrano.

1234
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: We love Andy Reid's past happy tendencies like he's his

1235
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: new you know, he's an old coach, but everyone's supposedly

1236
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: following his lead and just passing all the time. Now,

1237
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: except that's works great. When everything's working, He's got to

1238
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: find a way to run the ball and help his

1239
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: defense get off the field because his defense is in.

1240
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: They're playing forty minutes the last couple of weeks. I

1241
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: was hoping you were just gonna keep going there, Like honestly,

1242
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: I was hoping you would go for fifteen straight minutes, um.

1243
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: And where I thought you were going is where I

1244
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: will complete it. Because yes, great players when their team

1245
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: needs some step up, especially when the lights are on

1246
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: the primetime, it brings out that extra gear. And after

1247
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: I broke my skid with that fairly um, you know,

1248
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: very close to a miracle win, miracle lock for the Packers. There,

1249
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: I will now get behind Patrick Mahomes in two game

1250
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: losing and I'm gonna lock up the Chiefs on the

1251
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: road shorthanded against the revitalized Broncos team because I just

1252
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: I think Patrick Mahomes is too good to lose three

1253
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: games in a row. Uh, and we're gonna see something

1254
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: special from him in this game. I think he's too

1255
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: good too, but he's I don't know how if he's

1256
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: too good to do that, banged up physically, not the

1257
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: same guy he's been. His yards per attempt to drop

1258
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: to um you can run on their defense, shot tore

1259
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: it all and let's go. Well, we'll see. I mean

1260
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: the Broncos this is this is a a couple of

1261
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I would have thought this would have been

1262
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: a nice thirty nine to seven Chief celebration. You just

1263
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: rolling to Denver, you your free dinner at the hotel,

1264
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: you drop a thirty nine points on Denver, and you

1265
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: fly home, and it's not been all been fine. Chiefs

1266
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: are in a tough place. They ever lose this game.

1267
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: They have the Packers and Vikings next. They have not

1268
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: been the same team on offense at all. Broncos our

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: offense isn't isn't my concern. They they moved the ball

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Speaker 1: the last but the defense is is as bad as

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: it gets right now. I mean, they're they're among the

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Speaker 1: worst than the entire NFL. This is kind of the

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01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: ultimate test for Flacco here because this is a game

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: you should put up twenty seven to thirty points if

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: you're a legit NFL offense and you're gonna you're gonna

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: need to help your defense out and and we'll see,

1277
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: can't you like each week? I like the Chiefs too.

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm not locked. I get a vision of who's gonna

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: be sitting up there with Joe Thomas and Colleen at

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Speaker 1: the end and everyone's in a celebratory move. I just

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: have a feeling Philip Lindsay, So I be that person

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Speaker 1: keeps me mentally into the consider No, I don't Thursday

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01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: Nights the last kind of game. I lock for a

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Speaker 1: road team. That Chiefs are a different type of road

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Speaker 1: team the most. But that's crazy territory. Thursday Nights, freaky

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Speaker 1: stuff happen. Well, considering what Marlon Mack and Carlos Hide

1287
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: just did to this defense, and then Frank Clark says,

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: we've lost the passion for defending the run. I trust

1289
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and I trust Patrick Mahomes. Stop the kid.

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01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Lindsay doesn't even own his own house, rent

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Speaker 1: with his parents. Parents. Hey, it's not a bad idea.

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01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Just save up money. It sounds like a good thing.

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01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: It's hard. He didn't get that brock oswhile her money

1294
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: he got Philip Lindsay money. It's a red flag. Man

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01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: got that house. Started like twenty two years old. Get

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01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: to get got a place of your college buddies, you know,

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Speaker 1: on Hoboken, and you just get you loosen up. It

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01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: seems like a long to the bars Boken. Enjoy yourself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: take you know, you take the path into the city

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Speaker 1: and you know, enjoy yourself. But the city lives in Denver. Correction,

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01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: he's twenty five years old. It's time to get out, right.

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: I came back one when I left Los Angeles with

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: no plan and went back east. I stopped back in

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Speaker 1: old Wilburham. I think for about a week is one

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: of those was like a Garden States most depressing weeks

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: of my life. I had to get out of there. Stuff.

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: It's like head not to Rosenthal family. I mean they

1308
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: were great. I might have been like three days. I

1309
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: don't even remember, but it was. I'm sure your parents

1310
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: were rocks. But otherwise you were thinking big picture type stuff, right,

1311
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: I was just thinking where where am I go? Yeah?

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01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: I got you all right? You know. One day you

1313
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: go home, you go to your parents house and stay

1314
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: the night and you realize, wow, this is a house,

1315
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: but this isn't my home anymore. And maybe Philip Winsley

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01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: is going to come to that realization eventually, because I

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: think he needs to if he wants to take that

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01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: step as a Are we sure that's where he's living

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: right now? Is this is? Oh? This is It's been

1320
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: decided on the show he lives in. Well, if he's not,

1321
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: then people announcing their football games have been getting it wrong.

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, alright, So, oh, you know, Stephen,

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01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: you're doing great behind the glass, but we're not ready

1324
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: to say goodbye, goodbye. Still on vacation. Weird, weird, you know,

1325
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: flexed by Erica. You know, say, we put in a

1326
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: lot of work in the UK. Now I'm gonna go

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: disappear for a week or two in various locations across

1328
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: the world. She made that decision, and that's good for her. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: you's done an awesome job filling in. I just want

1330
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: to let the audience know what's coming up tomorrow night.

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: We'll have that Thursday night recap of course, and then

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Speaker 1: Friday or late, yes, Friday, Right when do we put

1333
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: out know Thursday, so still jet legged. Thursday afternoon you'll

1334
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: get the week seven preview. Thursday night you'll get the

1335
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: Thursday night football recap, and of course we'll be back

1336
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: right here in the studio here um on Sunday night

1337
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: recapping all the games that we preview tomorrow. Okay, Stephen, thanks,

1338
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: got Dan handsOn signing up. Four Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: the old Boss, a little Stevie behind the glass. He's

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Speaker 1: not a little though. Till Thursday