1 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans has been serving members and protecting 3 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: their health for seventy six years. Learned about our Tennessee 4 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: roots at FBHP dot com. It's Tuesday. We are roughly 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: forty eight hours away from the NFL Draft. With coach 6 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis and Rhetbrian. We call them our Titans Radio 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Draft duo. I'm Mike Keith, and here we go. Yesterday 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: we talked about six questions towards drafting defense. Today six 9 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: questions towards drafting offense. Rhetbrian and coach Dave McGinnis have 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: graded roughly three hundred players for the draft, and so 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: we start with this. Rhett, what stood out to you 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: about this crop of offensive players that will be drafted 13 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: this weekend. 14 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: The first thing for me is the tight end class. 15 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: It's the richest it's been in probably over ten years. 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: In our top one hundred, if I'm not mistaken, Mac, 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: we've got six tight ends in the top one hundred picks. 18 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: And it starts with a you know, Michael Mayer from 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Notre Dame goes through all these guys that we have 20 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: looked at whether it's Luke Musgrave or Dalton Kincaid from Utah, 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: there's a wealth of talent there, and when you get 22 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: to the bottom part of that one hundred, there is 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 2: even I mean, it's just it's rich throughout this whole 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: thing of really good talent, and not just straight up 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, big receiver type tight ends. I'm talking about blockers, 26 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: you know, traditional wide type tight ends in this all 27 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: different shapes and sizes. 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: Totally agree. But I want to put the offensive lineman 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: in there too. There's some quality offensive lineman both on 30 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: the edge and in that triangle in this draft, and 31 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: I think fairly deep into this draft too. So those 32 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: two positions, to me are what stood out the most. 33 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: All Right, Coach Mack, you lead with question two. Who 34 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: is the best offensive player in the twenty twenty three draft? 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: John Robinson running back from Texas. Wow, just pure running, 36 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: just pure football player. 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: Do you have a comp I know you hate comps, 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: but many people haven't seen Bjon. 39 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: Robinson, Ladadian Tomlinson. 40 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty good. This guy is just a football player, 41 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: really good football player. Texas is really an anomaly for 42 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: a lot of us that watch a lot of college 43 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: football because they've got talent that sometimes doesn't perform up 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: to the five star that they are coming out. This 45 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: guy's a really talented football player at a position that 46 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: is not as highly valued anymore in today's National Football 47 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: League as it was in the past, but really good 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: player Red Bryant. 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: It's quarterback Bryce Young for me, and it's just you know, 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: you see the body of work he did at Alabama, 51 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: and I don't care what size he is, all of 52 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: those things. When you look at the quarterback and the 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: leader that he is and the body of work he's 54 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: put together, he's the top of the list. And I 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: think the mainly my my answer and my reason for 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: that answer is because it's scific position specific quarterback is 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: you know where all this leads with and anticipating he'll be. 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: The first pick taken, all right, taking out b Jeon 59 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Robinson and Bryce Jahn, who is the second best offensive 60 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: player in this draft. 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Rerat you can't take out b Jeon Robinson because that's 62 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: who I had as the. 63 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Second it is I mean, yes, I have yeah, yeah, 64 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: oppos It didn't work. 65 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: Who wrote this? It worked? I don't know who wrote this. 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: No, it's terrible because no it worked because these are 67 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: two legitimate answers. 68 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 5: Well and Bijon just ridiculous. 69 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: He's the most talented running back coming out of college 70 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: since the twenty eighteen draft when we saw Kuon Barkley. 71 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: This guy's a three down back. I mean tons of 72 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: yards after contact and just a natural talent. And honestly, 73 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: I think he is the different is the definition of 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: what the modern current day NFL running back is, being 75 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: a three down back who can help you out of 76 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: the backfield. 77 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: There are some people who believe he will fall to 78 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: like twenty. There's a lot of speculation right now too 79 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: that Atlanta might take him at eight. You know, Arthur Smith, 80 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: you helped to train Arthur Smith as a coach in 81 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: this league. Dave McGinnis, does he get past Atlanta? Who'd 82 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Arthur take last year? 83 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: You know, he took the tidy end right and nobody 84 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: thought everybody, but this was an offensive weapon that could 85 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: be used multiple ways. Arthur uses his players multiple ways. 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: This is an Arthur Smith kind. 87 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: Of guy, easily. Yeah, you think that happens. RHT. 88 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 2: If it doesn't happen there, I mean, their speculation about 89 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: it being pick ten with the Philadelphia Eagles which. 90 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Would make a lot of sense because in terms of 91 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: what his cap cost would be. And remember for first 92 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: round picks, they're basically slotted in essence two to two 93 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: and a half percent above what they got last year. 94 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: So you can just look at what guy's got last 95 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: year in that slot, add two to two and a 96 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: half percent and that's going to be it. 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 5: And Miles Sanders is in Carolina, well, and that's it. 98 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: I mean, their whole running back room last year cost 99 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: less than six million dollars in cap cost. If you 100 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: took Bjon Robinson, not only would you upgrade for Jalen Hurts, 101 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: which is crazy to think he would have a better 102 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: back play behind him than the group that played with 103 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: him last year, but. 104 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 5: It would actually be cheaper. It's huge. I mean, it 105 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: makes total sense. 106 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he falls past Philadelphia, especially considering that 107 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: Philly also has the thirtieth pick. 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 5: Overall, they've got two picks on night one. 109 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: Now, see something you bring up, something that really educates 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: the listeners, the OT people here when you're in draft rooms, 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: not just on draft day. These are the conversations that 112 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: general managers, head coaches and staffs have leading up the 113 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: months leading up to this draft, about cap fits, about 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: cap fits in the future, and about stacking your roster 115 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: position wise so that it starts to interlock with one another. 116 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: That's a very very valid point, Mike. 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 5: We're through two questions. 118 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: We've got four more to go on offense on this 119 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: edition of the OTP with Dave McGinnis and Rhett Bryan. 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Hey Titans fans, It's hard to decide what's the best 121 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: part of a dunkin run. Is it the coffee or 122 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: is it the one dollar classic donut or the two 123 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: dollars stuffed bagel minis or the three dollars sausage, egg 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: and cheese that you can add to that coffee, or 125 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: the fact that you can leave the office. The answer, 126 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: of course is yes, time for a dunkin run. Great 127 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: deals on food for one, two or three dollars with 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: a medium or larger coffee. America runs on duncan. Let's 129 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: get running with question number three. All right, Coach Mack, 130 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: who is the most highly rated offensive player that might 131 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: drop for whatever reason? Jackson Smith and Gieba from Ohio 132 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: State the wide receiver because of his hamstring issues miss 133 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: a significant amount of time last year, the year before 134 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: and you put the year before tape on, you can 135 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: see what this guy is. This guy is going to 136 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: be a starting receiver in the National Football League as 137 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: soon as he steps on sampus. 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: But when you start. 139 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: Looking at soft tissue issues that have kept a player 140 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: out that long, it's gonna make it's gonna make some 141 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: people pause. And again it's it's per draft room and 142 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: it's per organization what you are willing to risk. 143 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: But that's the guy to me, Coach Mack says, Jackson 144 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. 145 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 5: What does Rhet Bryan say? 146 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean mine was b Jon Robinson just because 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: of the position that he plays at, and you know 148 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: how the running back is somewhat devalued in this and 149 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: we talked about him not falling past ten to the 150 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles, but I mean, if they don't take him 151 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: there and they take a defensive prospect, there's a chance 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: he falls pretty far, not out of the first round. 153 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: But at eighteen to the Detroit Lions is another place 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: for him because they've they've always been looking for a 155 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: running back since Barry Sanders hung them up. And then 156 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: at twenty six for the Cowboys and at twenty seven 157 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: for the Buffalo Bills are also spots he could fall to. 158 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: I think Detroit is really interesting because they have six 159 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: and eighteen, and so they can get in a situation. 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: I think they stick and pick at six because I 161 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: think they're going to want to get a great player. 162 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: But if he he being Bjon Robinson, doesn't go at ten, 163 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: I wonder if Detroit is not the team that calls 164 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee and says we want a trade to eleven to 165 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: go up and get Bjon Robinson. Because they have five 166 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: picks in the first three rounds. I mean, they've got 167 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: a lot of depth. They're certainly a much better team. 168 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: Adding weapons right now for that team where they are 169 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: in their development would make a ton of sense. 170 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: And remember this, just on your scenario, Brad Holmes and 171 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: Ran Carthon work together in the same building for five years, 172 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: very closely on putting the Rams team together, all right, 173 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: you know? 174 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: And so. 175 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: Who knows watch Detroit? Yeah, I don't listen. I don't 176 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: think they're in love with DeAndre Swift. And how many 177 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: picks have we seen them over the years row at 178 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: a running back position to try to come up with 179 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: an answer. Now they've done more with wide receiver than anything. 180 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: But they have a pretty good history with a couple 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: of running backs throughout their time. I mean, especially Barry Sanders, 182 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: understanding what a difference a guy like that could make 183 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: to golf or whatever they're going to do going forward. 184 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean they've they've hit on some receivers, certainly haven't 185 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: quite hit where they want to on tight ends, but 186 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: they may be able to get a guy like that 187 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: going forward. We'll see. That's pretty good ball club. They 188 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: went nine to eight, and you have to feel like 189 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: the NFC North is wide open. So that's why I say, 190 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: I think you've got to watch them. I think again, 191 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: I think they stick and pick at six and then 192 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I think they use eighteen to potentially leverage back up. 193 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: Well, I think discounting what they've done in the past, right, 194 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: you've got a second year GM and you've got a 195 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: first year GM that. Believe me, I was in the 196 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: same building with them for five years doing this right here. 197 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: They work very very closely together along with Ray Agnew, 198 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: who is the assistant GM for Brad Now in Detroit. 199 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: So these guys understand one another and their draft philosophy 200 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: very well. 201 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: All right, So let me go through that before I 202 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: ask the next question on our list about offense. So 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: those guys have that kind of relationship. Absolutely, Again, you 204 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: work with people who you have those relationships with, understanding 205 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: that you might have to set something up before it 206 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: is that something they would say, listen, if our player 207 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: is there at eleven, here's what we're willing to offer you, 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: so you could make the call that quickly to the 209 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: league and get the trade in. 210 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 211 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I've the terms may be lined up theoretically. 212 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: No, No, yeah, I mean, but I'm just saying the 213 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: only reason I can say this. 214 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 4: With some pretty good clarity. 215 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: I've done it, right, I've done it, and that's exactly 216 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: what you do do. I mean, we did it with 217 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: the Titans with Jared Goff, right, So I mean that's 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: just the most recent, you know, that I've been involved in, 219 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: and there's been several others. 220 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: All right. 221 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Question four, what is the best case scenario for an 222 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: offensive player for the Titans at number eleven? 223 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: Read for me, naturally, if one of those quarterbacks are 224 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: sitting there for multiple reasons, one, if it's one they 225 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: like and want to take, okay go, and if not, 226 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: maybe someone calls Ran Carthon and you get some more 227 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: capital that you need. That's the first thing. Second thing, 228 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: if one of these top tackles, like if Peter Scronsky 229 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: is sitting there, go same thing with Broderick Jones. I mean, 230 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: I think you know there's a chance you might have 231 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: one of those sitting there. You could have the pick 232 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: of the litter with these tight ends that we started 233 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: this podcast with. But a top tackle maybe quarterback for 234 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: for those reasons. 235 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: Paris Johnson, junior, Okay Mohio State. Uh, that to me 236 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: is the best scenario. 237 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: He's a big tackle. You see, he's a big athletic tackle. 238 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: People saw the footwork at the Ohio State workout and 239 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: that was shown over and over and over again on Twitter, 240 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: and people are like, what's this. I mean, he's he's 241 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: pretty special. 242 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: It's a dude. 243 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Let me go back to something Red mentioned tight ends 244 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: and I want to see because it feels like you've 245 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: alluded to this, but I want to I want to 246 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: sort of dive down on a little bit more. Are 247 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: there more elite tight ends very safely in your top 248 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: one hundred than there are elite wide receiver prospects. 249 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I'll give you the tight ends that we've got. 250 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: We keep talking about this mythical top one hundred. I mean, 251 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: here's what Ret and I came up with. Michael Mayer 252 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: from Notre Dame, Dalton ken Kid from Utah, Luke Musgrave 253 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: from Oregon State, who we were we're gonna. Can I 254 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: just say I love him? Yeah, And that's why I 255 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: looked at you, Uh, Darnell. I can tell who you 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: like when we go to see you. 257 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: When I hugged him and he didn't know it. 258 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: Uncomfortable when you know, when you yelled at me across 259 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: the ballrooms. 260 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: Had come over here and talk to this guy, cause. 261 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: I did want you to meet Yeah, because he because 262 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: you know his. 263 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: Uncle I do. 264 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: I didn't hire his uncle, uh Darnell, not for any 265 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: bad reasons. Darnell Washington from Georgia, Tucker Craft from South 266 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: Dakota State, Sam Laporta from Iowa. I'm in the top 267 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: one hundred now, Luke Schoonmaker from Michigan, and then right 268 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: on the fringe of this, Brenton Strange from Penn State. 269 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: So let me see if I feel this right. If 270 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: if you're if you're sticking with your board and you're 271 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: talking about an elite player, you could theoretically take a 272 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: tight end over a wide receiver, you know, in terms 273 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: of first, second round, whatever, with the thought process being 274 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: this is just a more elite player who stays on. 275 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 5: The field more. 276 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: I think so, yes, yeah, And again at eleven, which 277 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: is what the question is. I believe you'd have your 278 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: pick of the litter there of the Titans. 279 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 5: Would one be worth that? Mmmm? Okay? 280 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: All right, all right, so I'm gonna move on. I know, 281 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm just asking questions. That's all I'm doing. We're on 282 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: the OTP. This is how we're doing it, all right. 283 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: Question five is this Nicholas Pettifrere was an incredible draft 284 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: bargain for the Tennessee Titans early in the third round 285 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: last year. Each of you give me two offensive prospects 286 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: that could be there for the Titans at number seventy two, 287 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: the Titans picking the third round that would have the 288 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: same type of value as Patifree. 289 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 5: We'll go Sam. 290 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: Laporta, the tight end from Iowa that I just said, 291 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: and then go to the receiver route Marvin Mahams Junior 292 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: from Oklahoma. This is a speed guy. This is a 293 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: vertical speed fast, fast, fast dude. It's got a pretty 294 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: nice catch radius. 295 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: Even. 296 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: The thing about this wide receiver group, Mike, for our listeners, 297 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: I know you know this because you study this hard too. 298 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: It's completely different than it has been in the last 299 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: several years. There's not that many six two, six, three 300 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: sixty four big long receivers. Now they're the five to nine, 301 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: five ten speed guys. Great short area of quickness guys. 302 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: This is one of them. 303 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: For me, Mike, I'm gonna go receiver and tight end 304 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: on mine, and I'm going to go with one of 305 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: the bigger receivers in this that would be a value 306 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: in day two, and that's Jonathan Mingo from Old Miss. 307 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: He's six two plus two twenty five seventeen yards per 308 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: catch average in his career at Old Miss. I think 309 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: that's somebody that can help the Titans. And then the 310 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: last tight end that Mack mentioned in our top one hundred, 311 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: Luke Schoonmaker from Michigan. 312 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 5: What do you like about him? 313 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: He is, First of all, he is quick than he 314 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: appears to be in this all right. First of all, 315 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: he's six five two fifty one arms thirty two and 316 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: seven eights inches, hands, nine wings seventy eight and an 317 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: eighth four to six three in the forties. What he 318 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: did the combine but he had a thirty three and 319 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: a half inch forvert had a ten to seven broad 320 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: and you see him. He's he can block. But he 321 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: also was used as a red zone threat from Michigan 322 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Average ten yards per catch in 323 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: his last two years at Michigan and six touchdowns in 324 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: there and not a lot of drops. He's just a 325 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: guy I think that you could get in probably round 326 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: three that is of value. 327 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 328 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. That's right, the deal is finalized in Seat 329 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Geek is the newest member of the Titans family. 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Yesterday was defense, Today is offense Day. 339 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 5: Three. 340 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Give me an offensive position group where the Titans can 341 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: find great value on Saturday goes First. 342 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to start with the interior offensive line. There 343 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: are some guards and centers, like Mac has said when 344 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: we started this OTP, the triangle players, they run pretty 345 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: deep in this. And I'm going to start with a 346 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: couple of guys, one of which is a Michigan Wolverine 347 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: olu Ola with Teamy. We saw him at the Senior Bowl. 348 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: He's a Virginia transfer six two and a half three 349 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: oh nine. He was the Remington and the Outland Trophy 350 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: winner in his one year at Michigan. And it's a 351 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: guy that played I think most of his games at 352 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: right guard, but had played some games at tackle as well, 353 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: so there's some versatility there. And then there's another one 354 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 2: that I really like from LSU, Anthony Bradford. He had 355 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: twelve games at right guard, five at left tackle. He's 356 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: six four three thirty two and as coach Mack would say, 357 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: he's not an empty chairs. He's certainly somebody that I 358 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: would look for as a late round pick in this. 359 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: And then I'm going to go also wide receiver at 360 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Perry from wake Forest six three and a half one 361 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: ninety eight twenty four hundred plus yards in his last 362 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: two years at Wake Forest, eleven touchdowns, good long speed 363 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: on vertical routes. Has had some dropsy issues, but I 364 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: think that's something that Rob Moore could work with him on. 365 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: There's a wealth of stuff in the back end of 366 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: this draft. 367 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: On offense, Okay Brett gave us three, I'll give you four. 368 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: Wide receiver, Let's stay there. Xavier Hutchison from Iowa State, 369 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: got some length to him, got a little bit of speed, 370 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: Pretty crafty receiver. Offensive tackle Nick Salaverari from Old Dominion. 371 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: This is a big athletic dude, raw, but you're talking 372 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: about day three here. Can he also play guard? I 373 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: possibly could. He's a big dude. Mike tight end I 374 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: got loos Luke schoon Maker right here. Luke Schoonmaker to 375 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: me is a guy that can do a pretty good 376 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: of both, just as Rhett gave a great description of him. 377 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: But his blocking is better than some of these guys 378 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: that will probably go before him, just because that's the 379 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: way it works right now with people you know using 380 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: tight ends to be sometimes primary receivers in their offense. 381 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 5: And then my. 382 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: Offensive guard that I've got written right here. And Rett 383 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: and I don't talk before this. We talk a lot 384 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: in the last three months. We're sick of each other. 385 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: But is Anthony Bradford the guard from LSU both like yes, 386 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: you both like schoonmaker? 387 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 4: Yes? 388 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: Interesting? 389 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: All right, So let me quiz you on one ratt 390 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: another guy that I really like at the Senior Bowl 391 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: and think he's a good player also, so I'm play 392 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: in the Southeastern Conference. Does a Meal Echi center guard 393 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: out of Alabama have a chance to fall into Day 394 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: three or do you think he goes the first two days? No? 395 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: I think he would be a Day three candidate in this. 396 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: And you know, we heard the story from Jim Naggy, 397 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: the senior director of the Senior Bowl, you know, in 398 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: that you know, Nick Saban calls him and says, hey, 399 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: give him a shot at center, right, he can do this. 400 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: So it's a versatile guy in him. Man, he's a 401 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: big dude, big anchor who played in a massive, you 402 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: know program in the Southeastern Conference. Yeah, he absolutely somebody 403 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: that would be of value for someone in Day three. 404 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: Emiliek you are we have him around the one twenty range, 405 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: so that's fourth round. 406 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: You know kind of at the top of that fourth round. 407 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 408 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: He's six two three fourteen and he is versatile because 409 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: he proved that he could snap the ball and still 410 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: get to his blocks at the Senior Bowl. 411 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 5: Another interior alignment. 412 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm interested in Jerome Carvin from Tennessee played sixty games there. 413 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: Don't know if I don't know if he's a drafted player. 414 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he goes later than that, But 415 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: he's that type of guy you're trying to find who 416 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: can make your practice squad, can eventually make your roster, 417 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: can play more than one position. You're always looking for 418 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: those O linemen who always seems always seem to drop 419 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: because there are more of them and because teams sort 420 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: of get fixated on. Oh I can't believe this edge 421 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: rusher's still here. Oh, I can't believe this safety is 422 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: still here. 423 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: Well, we're doing the draft with a guy right here 424 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: that that happened with. Who's that Ramone Foster? 425 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 5: Yes, that's right. 426 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Ramone Foster wasn't undrafted and only spent eleven years with 427 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. 428 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 5: So there we go. That was pretty good. 429 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Ramone will join us for our coverage on Thursday night 430 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: at sixth and Peabody. You're invited, presented by Pinnacle Coach 431 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Mack will be there, Rett Bryan will be there, I 432 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: Mike Keith will be there, and also Brat Hopkins, former 433 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: Titans Pro Bowl left tackle, will join us for the 434 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: opening hour of our coverage. Excited about all of that, 435 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: certainly appreciate our friends at Farm Bureau Health Plans. See 436 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: how much you can save on your health coverage with 437 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. 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