WEBVTT - Best Picture Countdown to the Oscars: "The Secret Agent"

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<v Speaker 1>Hey that folks.

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<v Speaker 2>We continue now with Oscar movie number eight, The Secret Agent.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was a surprise for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, first of all, I did not know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about it, and I wasn't sure what language it was in.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, I don't mind a subtitled movie because I

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<v Speaker 3>actually feel like I get to read a book and

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<v Speaker 3>watch a movie all at once, and after a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>I forget I'm seeing subtitles, and it's so interesting. Even

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<v Speaker 3>when you're watching a movie in another language, you can

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<v Speaker 3>still tell when the acting is amazing, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>the case with this film.

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<v Speaker 2>This Oscar nominated film. Yes, The Secret Agent has four

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<v Speaker 2>nominations among them other than Best Picture, Best Actor, Best

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<v Speaker 2>International Feature, and Best Casting. Now, the leading the this

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<v Speaker 2>one is Wagner Mora. He's your main character, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is the one who really got awards season off with

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<v Speaker 2>a bang, I guess because he pulled off what was

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<v Speaker 2>considered an upset.

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<v Speaker 3>He won.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the first big acting awards of the season

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<v Speaker 2>was that the Golden I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>The Golden Globes, and I think everyone was looking at

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<v Speaker 3>Timothy Chalomet or Leonardo DiCaprio or Michael B.

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<v Speaker 4>Jordan and all of a sudden, Wagner Mora wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that actually put the secret agent on the map,

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<v Speaker 3>at least for me, because it was the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I had even heard of this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think on the map for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not a movie that was considered a big

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<v Speaker 2>box office movie, only made eighteen million at the box office,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is quite frankly, and we should probably say Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of this one had us more intrigued than

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<v Speaker 2>any movie we saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is true. So this here's the synopsis of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie. In nineteen seventy seven, a technology expert flees

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<v Speaker 3>from a mysterious past and returns to his hometown town

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<v Speaker 3>of Recife in search of peace. He soon realizes that

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<v Speaker 3>the city is far from being the ref huge he seeks.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're right that opening.

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<v Speaker 3>Scene, the yellow Volkswagen Beetle driving down a seemingly deserted

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<v Speaker 3>desert road in the middle of Mexico, and there's just

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<v Speaker 3>this dead body and it just starts out unexpectedly and

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<v Speaker 3>very mysteriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't know what to expect. Again, expectations are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of a part of these movies and what

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<v Speaker 2>you get out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But robes.

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<v Speaker 2>At the very beginning we said, oh my goodness, we

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<v Speaker 2>got a good one here. We didn't know what we

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<v Speaker 2>were expecting because the runtime is so damn long that

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<v Speaker 2>we went into it with kind of a bad attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two hours and forty one minutes tied for the

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<v Speaker 3>longest movie of the ten here nominated for Best Picture,

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<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, we were kind of like gearing ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>up for it because thinking about it, a two hour

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<v Speaker 3>and forty one minute movie that's in Portuguese nice, sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like a party. No, we were concerned, but actually, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that opening scene was gripping and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>you wanted to know what is going on. And the

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<v Speaker 3>cool thing I will say about this movie is it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't let you in. You are still unsure why the

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<v Speaker 3>main character is heading to Resifa. You are trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out why there are dead bodies everywhere. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>and he has this mysterious past.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know what. You know he's fleeing from something,

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<v Speaker 4>but you don't know what. And it takes a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you don't know he's the good guy or

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guy. We don't be rooting for him, or

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<v Speaker 2>should I be concerned about him. It was an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>movie that Robes has a damn near perfect critic rating

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<v Speaker 2>on ron Tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 4>It certainly does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the critics and the audience loved it, but the

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<v Speaker 3>critics more ninety eight percent for the critics eighty three

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<v Speaker 3>percent from the audience. And look, I do think it

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<v Speaker 3>may have something to do with the fact that it

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<v Speaker 3>was in Portuguese, that it was two hours and forty

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<v Speaker 3>one minutes, and that it was.

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<v Speaker 4>A long and winding row.

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<v Speaker 3>And to that point, we'll have to come clean about

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<v Speaker 3>how long and winding our road was.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching this kind of epic storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>It took us a while. I can't remember it took

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<v Speaker 2>us four days. Wait, it took us longer on train

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<v Speaker 2>dreams and this one, this was the.

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<v Speaker 4>Four day one.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the funny thing was, I remember it was so

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because you kept saying this is so good, this

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<v Speaker 3>is so good, and then I'd look at you and

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be asleep, and I would have woken up from

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<v Speaker 3>taking a nap as well, and then we'd started again

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<v Speaker 3>and we'd be like, Okay, this is really good, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we'd just start falling asleep.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If maybe when you're reading subtitles and you're later at night.

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<v Speaker 4>You had a long day, and we did have lots.

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<v Speaker 3>Of long days this week us almost like you know

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<v Speaker 3>when you go to read a book before you go

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<v Speaker 3>to bed and you just fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's kind of what kept happening. So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>even want to blame the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It might have been the subtitles, It was the time

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<v Speaker 3>of day and the week we had. But every time

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, you kept saying, this is just so good,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you'd be a sleep later.

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<v Speaker 2>A ringing endorsement of the movie is that it made

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<v Speaker 2>us co night night. Apparently three or four nights it

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<v Speaker 2>did in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>What how do you? What do you do? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you describe?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure when you talk about a movie that

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<v Speaker 2>you find so interesting, so good, so well acted, so

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<v Speaker 2>well shot, that you respect as a piece of art,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you go, yeah, I didn't have a good

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<v Speaker 2>movie experience. Should you enjoy a great movie? Or enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>is the wrong way to look at it or the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong way to say it? Should just not appreciate?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? What? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I do think a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when it comes to Best Picture nominees, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you probably should go into watching each one of

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<v Speaker 3>these with that level of expectation that I'm here to

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate this piece of art.

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<v Speaker 4>It might not be what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would typically watch in terms of we like horror, we

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<v Speaker 3>like comedy, so none of these really fit those exact genres.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you can go into it with the idea,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to appreciate an art form, and I'm maybe

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<v Speaker 3>going to learn something, feel something, have something evoked in

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<v Speaker 3>me that I wouldn't have otherwise just going about my

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<v Speaker 3>day or going to the typical kinds of movie and

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<v Speaker 3>entertainment I seek out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe I am a simpleton when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to movies. I've said it for a long time. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're to some degree the same way. We just

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<v Speaker 2>deal with so much day in day out that when

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<v Speaker 2>it's time where you have the option a choice to

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<v Speaker 2>be entertained. I want entertainment. I don't want heavy, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want weighty. I don't want to think, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to feel. I don't what do you call them?

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<v Speaker 2>The show the Love Island things, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>My palate cleansing, plate cleansers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so no, but you and I have talked about this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of the things we connected on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think perhaps it is because of the business

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<v Speaker 3>we live in. But everyone thinks it's shocking because you

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<v Speaker 3>would imagine journalists would like documentaries and to be what

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and we do watch a lot of news.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I'm actually sitting down not watching news, the

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<v Speaker 3>last thing I want to do is watch a documentary

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<v Speaker 3>or some long epic, tragic story and look up to

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<v Speaker 3>each their own. But I want to escape. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to escape, I want to laugh, I want to lighten

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<v Speaker 3>things up. So, yes, this is this was a decision

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<v Speaker 3>for us to watch these movies. And I do think

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<v Speaker 3>it's helpful looking at it, like I'm exposing myself to

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<v Speaker 3>something I wouldn't have and this is the best of

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<v Speaker 3>the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is a year, right, babe. That is useful.

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<v Speaker 1>There is useful.

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<v Speaker 2>I just when it's time to watch a movie, it

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<v Speaker 2>is time to be entertained. It is time to be entertained.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and you know the thing that made me

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<v Speaker 2>interested in this was when he won the Golden Globe.

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<v Speaker 2>He some guy never heard of, beat out all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys I have heard of and watched all their movies. Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>then I need to sit up and pay attention to

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<v Speaker 2>whatever this is and that was the first thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They got me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And when we watched it, there was some very

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<v Speaker 3>memory scenes, Like I love that it was set in

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<v Speaker 3>the year nineteen seventy seven, the year of your birth,

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<v Speaker 3>but also the year of Jaws, and they had that

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<v Speaker 3>play predominantly as a through line in this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>You remember when they had the was it the tiger.

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<v Speaker 3>Shark that found the murder the murder victim's leg and

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<v Speaker 3>they had the kid who was obsessed with Jaws like

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<v Speaker 3>you just had some There was some kind of grotesque

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<v Speaker 3>which is in up our Alley, some grotesque, dark comedic moments.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just I liked some of the cultural references

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<v Speaker 3>on Chicago song if You Leave Me Now. I would

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<v Speaker 3>never have thought that song would be playing predominantly in

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<v Speaker 3>the movie. There were just some cool nostalgic parts about

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<v Speaker 3>this movie that I appreciated. Even though it was in

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<v Speaker 3>another language, it still felt I still felt connected to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You appreciated it. I did feel connected to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>would you tell somebody to watch it or skip it?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that long?

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<v Speaker 2>You just referenced as we continue here talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>secret agent?

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<v Speaker 1>But what was it? You just made a reference that didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's white kind of if you leave me now

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<v Speaker 3>by Chicago, If you leave me now you take away

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest.

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<v Speaker 4>All of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it was the band, not the movie, not the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I got so off there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chicago the band, not the show. Yeah, okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a play called Chicago a musical.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, But I wasn't referencing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got confused.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't know wish way we're going

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<v Speaker 2>in white culture. Okay, but the Secret Agent two hours

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<v Speaker 2>of forty one minutes, I would definitely he's worth watching.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very cool. He's a cool character throughout this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>There was something about his I'm not familiar with him,

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<v Speaker 2>so I liked his style. I just like how he

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<v Speaker 2>came across throughout this whole movie that was a cool

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<v Speaker 2>confidence but of vulnerability the whole time. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>he knew what he was doing with at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>he had no clue. It was just I liked him. Whoever,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more a guy is If they announced his name

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<v Speaker 2>as best actor, I would go, Okay, I'm cool with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I would also say to watch it. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought this movie had some really cool, stylized elements to it,

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of what's happening next, a mysterious element to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you actually had some There was love. There

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<v Speaker 3>was love stories you found out about his past and

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<v Speaker 3>his son, and you see this beautiful relationship between.

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<v Speaker 1>Father and son that was the centerpiece.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so there's a real heart to this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's also this fun mystery around it. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just think, also, it feels I felt, I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I experienced something that I that thought was beautiful and

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<v Speaker 3>it was cool to see another culture. I felt immersed

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<v Speaker 3>in this Brazilian culture. It just it was an experience

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<v Speaker 3>that I valued. So I would absolutely say watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>You a cultural experiences and experience and his performance are

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<v Speaker 2>worth watching. So true, those two things are worth watching

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie. It is it's a lift, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>effort to watch the movie. However, this isn't just a

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<v Speaker 2>one one bag of popcorn movie.

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<v Speaker 4>And the funny thing is, yes, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>And the funny thing is we're saying this and it

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<v Speaker 3>took us four days to watch it, and so that's

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<v Speaker 3>actually I feel like that tells you something. Maybe we're

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<v Speaker 3>blaming ourselves rather than the movie for not being able

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<v Speaker 3>to stay up. But we a lot of times would

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<v Speaker 3>just say ef it and move on and say we

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<v Speaker 3>saw enough of it. We kept going back to it.

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<v Speaker 3>We kept the next day saying, wait, let's pick up

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<v Speaker 3>where we left off. I really want to see where

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<v Speaker 3>this is going. So that actually tells you the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that we were willing for a four days in a

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<v Speaker 3>row to keep watching it because we actually wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>see more and see what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a pretty bringing endorsement for people who

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<v Speaker 4>fell it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, chick that went out, this was number eight. We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting through these. A cliff notes on The next one

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<v Speaker 2>will be for a movie that's the short one on

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<v Speaker 2>the list, but it took us a long time to

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<v Speaker 2>get through it as well Trained Dreams. You can look

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<v Speaker 2>for that. It'll be the next one in the fee

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<v Speaker 2>folks always appreciate you hanging talk soon.