WEBVTT - Microsoft and Activision Deadline Extended, Netflix Earnings Preview

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<v Speaker 1>From Mahart where Innovation, Money and power.

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<v Speaker 2>Collie in Silicon Valley, Nbon.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Bloomberg Technology with Caroline Hyde and Ed Ludlove.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Parolin Hine on Blooberg's world headquarters in New York

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<v Speaker 3>and Ludlow he's off today. This is Bloomberg Technology. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up Microsoft and Activision. They extend their deadline for closing

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<v Speaker 3>that sixty nine billion dollar deal as they seek approval

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<v Speaker 3>in the United Kingdom. I've got the latest plus streaming

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<v Speaker 3>giant Netflix reporting earnings later today. How has the password

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<v Speaker 3>crackdown impacted the business? And what does strikes in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 3>mean for the company. And we'll sit down with the

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<v Speaker 3>CEO of Weight Watchers. We're going to discuss the company

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<v Speaker 3>embracing technological advances in medicine to support its business.

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<v Speaker 4>All that's so much more to come.

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<v Speaker 3>The first sets check in on those markets and Zada

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<v Speaker 3>Green Abigail.

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<v Speaker 5>It certainly is a day of Green Caroline. This year's

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<v Speaker 5>melt up continues. We have the S and P five

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<v Speaker 5>hundred up for a third day. The NASAK one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>is higher. We also have the nicy Fang Index. Some

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<v Speaker 5>of those big megacap tech stocks, including China Tech, which

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<v Speaker 5>is outperforming not on our board, but up more than

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<v Speaker 5>two percent. So the stock bulls remain in control as

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<v Speaker 5>we start to move through earning season, and of course,

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<v Speaker 5>the financials overall have reported well. Carvana, their results came

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<v Speaker 5>out that stock is absolutely soaring right now, it's up

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<v Speaker 5>about forty three percent. They beat estimates both for adjusted

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<v Speaker 5>earnings in terms of a narrower loss and expected revenues.

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<v Speaker 5>So this online car platform, which earlier this year had

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<v Speaker 5>been a sub five dollars stock, now up more than

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<v Speaker 5>one thousand percent. Some of this positive attitude also has

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<v Speaker 5>to do with restructuring their debt.

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<v Speaker 4>The question is, as the other big.

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<v Speaker 5>Tech companies roll in, and this is not a big

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<v Speaker 5>tech company, but as the big tech company earnings roll in,

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<v Speaker 5>you're mentioning Netflix, this stock up about sixty one percent,

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<v Speaker 5>will investors deem those earnings to be big enough, robust

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<v Speaker 5>enough to support the moves? Because Netflix on the year

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<v Speaker 5>up sixty one percent, we have meta Amazon up about

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<v Speaker 5>an equal amount, Microsoft and Apple as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet if I take a look at.

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<v Speaker 5>How much revenue is growing for Netflix, it's expected to

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<v Speaker 5>grow mid single digits. Same deal for Amazon and Microsoft, Apple, Caroline.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually expected for its June quarter revenue to decline

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<v Speaker 5>by more than one percent. So it's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>interesting to see whether these quarters come in where they're expected,

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<v Speaker 5>what the outlooks are. Will we see this stock rally

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<v Speaker 5>continue based on the results that come through.

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<v Speaker 3>All baited breath for those big names later off to

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<v Speaker 3>the bow, Abigail, thank you so much. Let's get more

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<v Speaker 3>updates so on well, the ever grinding story that is

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft and Activision the deal. We understand the extension in

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<v Speaker 3>the deadline has been given for three months to get

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<v Speaker 3>this deal done. There's also updates to the changes in

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<v Speaker 3>which termination could be three and a half billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>if indeed they do walk away. There's three months time.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get over to Catherine Gammel. I'm praised to say,

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<v Speaker 3>who has been really thinking about why this ultimate deadline

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<v Speaker 3>that was meant to be July the eighteenth has been

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<v Speaker 3>extended and it's because of UK regulators correct, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, Thanks so much for having me on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, so today we've seen that this deadline has officially

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<v Speaker 6>been extended by the companies.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this was expected and.

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<v Speaker 6>Bloomberg reported earlier in the week that this will be

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<v Speaker 6>the case, and this is really just so that the

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<v Speaker 6>companies can get over the UK hurdles. So the UK's

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<v Speaker 6>Competition of Markets Authority is the only agency that's standing

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<v Speaker 6>in the way of this stale closing at the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>And last week we saw them.

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<v Speaker 6>Put out a statement that would say that they're going

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<v Speaker 6>to reconsider some structural remedies for the companies after the

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<v Speaker 6>FTC's defeat in court. So you know, since then we've

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<v Speaker 6>had quite a lot of update it's a big floody.

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<v Speaker 6>We've seen them extend their deal probe to the end

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<v Speaker 6>of August to twenty ninth, and then to also clarify

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<v Speaker 6>that if they are being offered a restructured deal that

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<v Speaker 6>you know that this will go to a fresh probe

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<v Speaker 6>so that it can give both sides times to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>veni bosh and really thresh out the details on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Shareholders might be a bit pleased, of course, two companies

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<v Speaker 3>are going in the activision can issue at one time

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<v Speaker 3>dividend of up to ninety nine cents to which shareholders

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<v Speaker 3>before that deal closes. Of course, regular dividends had been

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<v Speaker 3>put on ice prior to this, but it's so notable

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<v Speaker 3>how the moon music has shifted, not only after the

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<v Speaker 3>FTC failed to get it the deal put on ice

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<v Speaker 3>here in the United States, but what on about turn

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<v Speaker 3>to occur in the United Kingdom. We are expecting more

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<v Speaker 3>changes to the business model, but ultimately anything that could

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<v Speaker 3>still stand in the way, it can still Spencer of

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft standing pretty upbeat.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it seems like the companies are both feeling pretty

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<v Speaker 6>confident about this one. I mean, I would just caution

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<v Speaker 6>that the CME still needs to consider these remedies and see,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, whether it all address the competition concerns at

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<v Speaker 6>the heart of the reason behind the cmeme's first fetle.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, we've wienberg Used last week reported

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<v Speaker 6>that there's considerations of offering up some Microsoft's UK clothed business.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't know yet if that's actually going to be

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<v Speaker 6>officially offered right now. The negotiations are still at an

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<v Speaker 6>early stage, and on Monday they will just kicked off.

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<v Speaker 6>After that because we got a pause of the ukcmmes

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<v Speaker 6>and the Microsoft's appused proceedings at.

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<v Speaker 3>The competition and peep tribe, you know, we want to

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, Catherine, thank you so much. Kathinkamut on all

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<v Speaker 3>things Microsoft and Activision. Let's get on to Netflix as well,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, which once one a time was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>how gaming was its key competitor. Of course, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be reporting earnings today after the ball and please

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<v Speaker 3>to say that we mentioned you're an entertainment correspondent. Chris

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<v Speaker 3>pal Mary is standing by in LA and first, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we are expecting subscriptions to pick up. It's all about

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<v Speaker 3>that password crackdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think this tree is looking at about a

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<v Speaker 1>two million subscriber edition of this quarter. That's about the

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<v Speaker 1>same as the last quarter. Not as big as the

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<v Speaker 1>blowout one we saw in the last quarter of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, but much better than the losses they had

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<v Speaker 1>at the start last year. So there is a general

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that Netflix has figured this out with a new ad,

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper ad tier, with the crackdown on passwords, that they're

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<v Speaker 1>resuming growth again.

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<v Speaker 3>And within this context, I'm still trying to understand whether

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<v Speaker 3>a strike among actors among writers is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>difficult for Netflix doesn't have live sport. But is it

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<v Speaker 3>a boon because we know how much Netflix has gone

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of content in the back office.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the stream, given that you noted a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one percent increase in the price this year, thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna weather this strike.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the company's line has been that they have

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<v Speaker 1>this content pipeline, it's all set and they'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the.

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<v Speaker 4>End of the year at least.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be looking for any updates on the call today

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<v Speaker 1>to see if their position on that has changed. You

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<v Speaker 1>could certainly make the case that people will be spending

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more time just streaming older shows and spending

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<v Speaker 1>more time watching Netflix if you know, new programs are

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<v Speaker 1>not on the air in the fall, So there is

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<v Speaker 1>that dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris pa Mary is going to be glued to the

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<v Speaker 3>screens when those numbers drop. As always, we thank you

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<v Speaker 3>the Big bell Weather for the start of earnings in tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get to the other key, Big bell Weather. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest traded company here in the US. Apple, of

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<v Speaker 3>course coming out with well breaking news that we understand

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<v Speaker 3>that Apple is indeed racing to develop its own generative

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<v Speaker 3>AI tools to catch up with Open ai now. According

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<v Speaker 3>to Bloomberg, the sources are saying it's building a large

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<v Speaker 3>language model AI framework dubbed ajax. It's created internal chatchebt

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<v Speaker 3>style blot for employees already.

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<v Speaker 4>What's notable is this is helping in Video's share price.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quickly turned positive, up more than zero point four percent, because,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, what do they need compute power. On the downside, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft is falling to session lows down by about as

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see, currently off by three tens percent. They were

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<v Speaker 3>off at well eight tens percent a little bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Because this is competition, folks, if they're seeking to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take on open AI and indeed being it'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>great conversation to have with a Microsoft executive. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>coming up later in the show. Apple shares and a

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<v Speaker 3>new record high. Why while reporting coming from our own

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Gum and that Apple is quietly working on an

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<v Speaker 3>artificial intelligence tools that could challenge those of open AI

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<v Speaker 3>of Google's barred. Of course, this is all to do

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<v Speaker 3>with generative AI. The only thing we can really talk

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<v Speaker 3>about here on Bloomberg Technology. It's releasing, we understand, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's no real clear strategy for the technology getting into

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<v Speaker 3>the hands of consumers. What we do understand is the

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<v Speaker 3>IFOM maker has built its own framework to create large

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<v Speaker 3>language models an AI based system at the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>the offering.

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<v Speaker 4>We understand, of course it's called ajax.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to take on Bard, going to take

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<v Speaker 3>on chat GPT, And in fact they've already created a

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<v Speaker 3>chatbot service that some engineers called Apple GPT for their

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<v Speaker 3>own internal employees. But in recent months this AI push

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<v Speaker 3>has become a major effort for Apple.

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<v Speaker 4>Notable that, of course Tim Cook hasn't discussed it.

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<v Speaker 3>We were all waiting to see whether we did it

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<v Speaker 3>the Worldwide Developers Conference a month ago. We'll see as

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<v Speaker 3>to whether, of course it starts to factor in their

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<v Speaker 3>earnings calls. As we know all anyone can talk about

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<v Speaker 3>in those earnings things like AI. But we know that

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<v Speaker 3>Apple has woven AI features into products for years, and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's trying to play a little bit of catch

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<v Speaker 3>up in what is ever more buzzy market for generative

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<v Speaker 3>tools overall. But we'll see whether people can be creating essays, images, video.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to shine a light on what's happening in

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<v Speaker 3>competitors Microsoft, of course, which has evolved the open AI

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<v Speaker 3>relationship to become one that's really integrated within being. Within

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft co pilot three sixty five, we disc discussing that

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<v Speaker 3>in a moment with an executive. But it's down some

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<v Speaker 3>seven tens percent. As we talk about this new potential competition,

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<v Speaker 3>Apple up more than two percent and a new record,

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<v Speaker 3>and even in video, of course, the big compute power

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<v Speaker 3>is on the higher side because of this. Let's get

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<v Speaker 3>to the man that broke the story, Mark Goom, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pleased to say is on the phone, and I

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<v Speaker 3>mean some real digging here. We were all waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>Apple to wear in on AI.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are. I'm told that Apple is quietly

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<v Speaker 2>working on a set of new generative AI tools with

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of catching up to open API, Google, Microsoft, Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone you've seen entering this buzzy new AI space recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Two pieces of information here. One, they've created an underlying

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<v Speaker 2>framework to create large language models or LMS. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>tech at the heart of Chat, GPT and Google Bard

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<v Speaker 2>being AI, these other services. Apple's internal framework, it's called AJAX.

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<v Speaker 2>Now on top of that framework or with that framework,

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<v Speaker 2>they've also created an internal chat GPT like system that

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<v Speaker 2>some people on Apple call Apple GPT that works similarly

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<v Speaker 2>at GPT that we know today. So clearly Apple is

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<v Speaker 2>all in on LMS. They have multiple teams working on this.

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<v Speaker 2>The big caveat at this point though, is they do

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<v Speaker 2>not have a clear strategy for consumers yet, But the

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<v Speaker 2>work is happening and they'll get there eventually.

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<v Speaker 3>Many have perhaps grinded their teeth with frustration at Siri.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems an obvious area that generative AI could improve.

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<v Speaker 3>Where else though, could consumers interact with anything that Apple

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<v Speaker 3>would offer?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in terms of generative AI, you can see this

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<v Speaker 2>across all platforms. You can see this across many applications.

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<v Speaker 2>There are places where this could be used in productivity apps,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say in Apple spreadsheet or work processing or slide

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<v Speaker 2>presentation apps, you can have a generative AI system theoretically

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<v Speaker 2>to help you build those presentations and get work done

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Like you said, you can see it happen

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<v Speaker 2>in Siri, a more chatbot like interface with improved data

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<v Speaker 2>based on what it's trained with and improved back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, or more information able to come in

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<v Speaker 2>a more clear form into sery. You can see it

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of app development right even on a place

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<v Speaker 2>like the Vision pro headset, where you don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 2>a keyboard and mouse at all times, and you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to want official intelligence system to give you a leg

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<v Speaker 2>up on development when you don't have those standard input methods.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's all sorts of places where generative AI can

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<v Speaker 2>be placed. Apples hiring for people in the inlich model space.

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<v Speaker 2>They're looking for people who can apply generative AI to

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<v Speaker 2>help people communicate, create, connect and consume media, the company says,

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<v Speaker 2>and some job listings, so they're all in on this. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Apple doesn't have a definitive plan yet. People involved in

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<v Speaker 2>these projects believe that Apple's preparing to make some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of major AI announcement sometime as early as next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Marc German, always with the latest and breaking when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to Apple, Thanks so much for us quickly

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<v Speaker 3>jumping on the phone with us. Meanwhile, well, let's turn

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<v Speaker 3>to a company that's become ever more technologically native. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>they've hired a previous Silicon Valley style weight watchers of course,

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<v Speaker 3>known as WW International. In this week's Bloomberg Business Week

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<v Speaker 3>is part of Well, the cover story, it's all about

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<v Speaker 3>the sixty year old company bet On Pharmaceuticals is the

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<v Speaker 3>next frontier for innovation in the weight loss space.

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<v Speaker 4>In a bit to keep up with the times. Now

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<v Speaker 4>let's discuss all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope, please to welcome the CEO, Sema Sistani, who joins

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<v Speaker 3>us now. And you were building house party, you were

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<v Speaker 3>deeply within the tech space, building companies, selling them, innovating.

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<v Speaker 3>Your job now is to innovate at weight watches and

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<v Speaker 3>part of that is making acquisitions in the telehealth space.

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<v Speaker 3>Just talk to us about how this key acquisition is

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<v Speaker 3>helping you drive forward with pharmaceuticals.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, thank you for having me so coming in as CEO.

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<v Speaker 8>What is just a year and change now? I knew

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<v Speaker 8>part of the vision was about rethinking the business from

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<v Speaker 8>a digital first perspective, one based on community, which is

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<v Speaker 8>as you mentioned, where I've spent most of my career

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<v Speaker 8>in growth tech doing. I had first experience first as

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<v Speaker 8>a member on the program, and so I was really

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<v Speaker 8>excited about bringing something new and fresh to the product

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<v Speaker 8>on a global scale and something that would allow me

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<v Speaker 8>to take all my growth technoledge to growth tech experience

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<v Speaker 8>excuse me and knowledge and then have meaningful outcomes.

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<v Speaker 4>For global health. Well.

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<v Speaker 8>So, anyways, I had been looking at this research on

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<v Speaker 8>blue zones and how to create a digital blue zone,

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<v Speaker 8>and we investigated new modalities both across functional and clinical,

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<v Speaker 8>and what stood out most is that obesity is a

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<v Speaker 8>chronic condition. It still hasn't been addressed truly in that manner,

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<v Speaker 8>when in fact, for over ten years it's been scientifically

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<v Speaker 8>recognized as a chronic condition. And so we wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>enter the space and be able to extend our toolkit

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<v Speaker 8>to not only behavior change and functional but also clinical interventions.

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<v Speaker 3>What's so interesting is yesterday we learned that another tech executive,

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<v Speaker 3>social media tech executive, Jeff Cook, is joining Noon, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a kind of competitor which is also in the

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<v Speaker 3>weightless startup transition prescribing obesity drugs. How do you compete,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you stand out? How do you make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you're loyal following doesn't become disenchanted by the shift?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, well, I mean I think that there are two

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<v Speaker 8>There are two questions in there, and the first one

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<v Speaker 8>that I want to address is the prevalence. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>of obesity in the US, take for instance, since nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>ninety three, the prevalence was about thirteen percent and now

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<v Speaker 8>we're talking forty two percent prevalence, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>trajectory is going to get us to fifty percent prevalence

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<v Speaker 8>of people living with obesity by twenty thirty. So this

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<v Speaker 8>is a matter of rising tides.

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<v Speaker 2>Lifts all ships.

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<v Speaker 8>We are we are as the leaders in the space,

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<v Speaker 8>wanting to make sure that this is something that we

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<v Speaker 8>can address globally and that we're doing it responsibly. And yes,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, certainly there have been members who who we

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<v Speaker 8>have to bring along in the journey, and it's on

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<v Speaker 8>us to really destigmatize this category and people understand that

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<v Speaker 8>it's not just about willpower. For many, it's not a

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<v Speaker 8>moral failing that this is a chronic relapsing condition and

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<v Speaker 8>in some cases requires a clinical intervention for people to

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<v Speaker 8>see long term success and longevity.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to us about any program you might launch, whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not it's through sequence that people managed to access

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<v Speaker 3>these obesity drugs, whether it's somewhere else. You're sort of

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<v Speaker 3>trying to build a program, as I understand it, to

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<v Speaker 3>do with this acquisition that helps people build a lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people do you think would ultimately sign on,

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<v Speaker 3>When might we see such a launch and how sure?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, yeah, I think it's important to remind people that

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<v Speaker 8>the medications and particularly the clinical trial was called step

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<v Speaker 8>that really led to the media being excited and really

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<v Speaker 8>the zeitguy shifting to thinking about these medications. This was

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<v Speaker 8>a trial that was run alongside lifestyle treatment, meaning that

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<v Speaker 8>these patients were receiving guys on diet and activity. They

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<v Speaker 8>were done in conjunction with a calorie deficit. And so

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<v Speaker 8>it's a misconception that these are a magic pill that

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<v Speaker 8>you just take and lose weight. You must do them

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<v Speaker 8>alongside lifestyle intervention. And that's what the medications help you

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<v Speaker 8>do is have greater adherence to the healthy habits that

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<v Speaker 8>come naturally to something. And so what we are developing

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<v Speaker 8>alongside of our tried and true number one doctor recommended

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<v Speaker 8>program for behavior change is one that is very specific

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<v Speaker 8>to people who are on the g LP one journey

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<v Speaker 8>because they need help with maintenance of lean muscle mass,

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<v Speaker 8>nutrient density, and and doing so alongside of the titration

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<v Speaker 8>the dosage tried excuse me, titration is going to be

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<v Speaker 8>really important to achieving the best outcomes. And so we

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<v Speaker 8>plan to introduce this program in the fall, and that

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<v Speaker 8>would be for people who get the medications through our

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<v Speaker 8>virtual clinics sequence or not. So if you are somebody

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<v Speaker 8>who who's gotten the medication through your healthcare provider. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>these providers in a lot of cases are not trained

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<v Speaker 8>in OBCIA medication. Less than one percent of doctors are,

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<v Speaker 8>and so this will be a program that will be

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<v Speaker 8>able to have a higher touch support for those people.

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<v Speaker 3>Fascinating innovations. We'd love you to come back and talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it a little bit longer next time. We thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for your time. Wait watch your CEO Semasustani as

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<v Speaker 3>it's known as WW International, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Ticka from New York. This is Blue Veg Technology.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time now for work shifting when we look at

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<v Speaker 3>the changing landscape of the labor market amid advances in technology,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we've got to talk about AI. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got to talk about Microsoft's new artificial intelligence tools for

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<v Speaker 3>its office software Microsoft three sixty five Copilot. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to cost you thirty dollars a month you want to

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<v Speaker 3>use it on top of what most business customers will pay.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you getting in terms of that value?

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft Vice President and Modern Life Devices Group usef Mehdi

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<v Speaker 3>is with us. I'm so pleased to welcome you about

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<v Speaker 3>YUSUF to the show and being Chat enterprise, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>being more specific with your data and ensuring that it's

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<v Speaker 3>safe and also co pilot.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you offering here that's distinct Hi.

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<v Speaker 7>Carolin, First off, great to see again, Great to continue

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<v Speaker 7>the conversation from our launch back in February. The big

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<v Speaker 7>thing that we're announcing really yesterday is I think probably

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<v Speaker 7>arguably the biggest thing that's going to happen in AI

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<v Speaker 7>in the next twelve months, and that is that we're

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<v Speaker 7>unlocking the ability for people at work to be able

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<v Speaker 7>to use generative AI to help them in their jobs.

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<v Speaker 7>Up to this point, people have not used it because

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<v Speaker 7>of concerns of their data leaking out of the organization.

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<v Speaker 7>All that changes now with the launch of bing Chat

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<v Speaker 7>Enterprise and Microsoft threugh certenty five copilot.

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<v Speaker 4>Ultimately, what has the demand been like?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we heard from executives that they were sort

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<v Speaker 3>of inundated with CEOs asking them to get using this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of product. What industries are being most impacted for you?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the nice thing about this technology is really horizontally

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<v Speaker 7>very valuable for people who are writing documents, writing software code,

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<v Speaker 7>doing analysis, doing strategy. So whether you're in healthcare or

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<v Speaker 7>architecture or automotive, there are many companies that want to

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<v Speaker 7>use this powerful technology to help their employees be more productive.

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<v Speaker 7>And we've seen that with much software certenty five copilot,

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<v Speaker 7>where we've had companies like Chevron and others using it

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<v Speaker 7>already and seeing great capabilities. And then with being Chat

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<v Speaker 7>and being Chat enterprise, where really every major company I

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<v Speaker 7>talk to wants to be able to unlock the creativity

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<v Speaker 7>power for their employees.

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<v Speaker 3>So if they once said no, you can't use chat,

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<v Speaker 3>youbt at works something, they can say yes, but it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to be the big chat enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the interesting there's some really specific lms and general

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<v Speaker 3>to AI being focused at different industries. I think of

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey within the law world. Is that something that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to work alongside?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a great question. The way I think about

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<v Speaker 7>it is there will be these foundational models, so they'll

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<v Speaker 7>be a couple in the world that will be the

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<v Speaker 7>most advanced things like open AI, is chat, GPT or

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<v Speaker 7>GPT that we work with GPT four that power incredible capabilities.

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<v Speaker 7>And then companies will take those foundational models and they'll

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<v Speaker 7>do their own training, they'll do their own special capabilities

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<v Speaker 7>for their applications will enable those in being chat for

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<v Speaker 7>everybody through our plugin system. Think of it as like

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<v Speaker 7>having skills in the AI. So that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 7>it'll work.

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<v Speaker 4>Less than a minute left.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've got to ask you, what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>about the news that Apple's in on the game of

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<v Speaker 3>general to AI with ajax.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, looks it's just such a hot area

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<v Speaker 7>people have to get after it. It doesn't surprise me

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<v Speaker 7>that companies like Apple want to get in there. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>we've been at it for multiple years. We have a

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<v Speaker 7>very unique lead with chat EGPT four, with our role

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<v Speaker 7>in the enterprise, and you know the excitement of people

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<v Speaker 7>wanting to go do that work on Windows and yesterday's

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<v Speaker 7>announcements with support for met Islama on Azure, I really

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<v Speaker 7>speak to the unique leadership role that we're playing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Love to have you back to talk about the open

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<v Speaker 3>source models versus those more closed source foundational models.

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<v Speaker 4>We thank you so much for your time there today.

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft vice president of one Life and Devices company that

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<v Speaker 3>is use many of that group. Welcome back to Blueberg Technology.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Karen Hired in New York ed Ludlow. He's off,

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<v Speaker 3>He's missing the action when it comes to the publicly

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<v Speaker 3>trade and markets. Let's get into them, because we've got

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<v Speaker 3>another day of slight gains up just about a tenth

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<v Speaker 3>of a percent. The moon music came from across the

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<v Speaker 3>Atlantic when the UK's inflation number also take lower. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>Europe's still not pulling back as much as we'd expected,

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<v Speaker 3>but really the UK did plummet and we saw therefore

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<v Speaker 3>NASDAC just managed to get a bit of a push highers.

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<v Speaker 3>The world seems to be grappling with slightly less issues

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to inflationary push forward, and that means

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<v Speaker 3>false interest rates perhaps won't have to rise up at

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<v Speaker 3>quite the rate we'd anticipated. The pound look at that

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<v Speaker 3>down a percentage point.

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<v Speaker 4>Versus the US dollar.

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<v Speaker 3>After that, inflation data came in cool and then expected,

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<v Speaker 3>But the Bloomberg Mantity index maybe says, look, don't hold

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<v Speaker 3>your horses on inflationary pressures. Oil spiking wheat on the

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<v Speaker 3>upper side that as we understand that Russia was really

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be wanting to see any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>movement in terms of voyages in and out of the

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine at the moment, So keep an eye on the

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<v Speaker 3>geopolitical risk there when it comes to commodities. Moving on, though,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back to this world of tech individual movers.

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<v Speaker 3>The news coming from one Mark gum and that Apple

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<v Speaker 3>is now getting all in on the generative AI game.

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<v Speaker 3>We understand ageax is its foundational model that it's been

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<v Speaker 3>trying to work with. We know that they already potentially

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<v Speaker 3>have a chat Gypt like model being used by.

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<v Speaker 4>Employees Apple GPT.

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<v Speaker 3>It is up at a new record high at one

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<v Speaker 3>point where one hundred and ninety five, up two thirds

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<v Speaker 3>of a percentage point. Microsoft, interestingly having rallied hard yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>after its own AI enterprise announcements, we were just talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it with use of medi we're seeing it just

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<v Speaker 3>giving about a little bit of that profit perhaps we

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<v Speaker 3>saw it down a percentage point profit taking and indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>while more competition to come, keep an eye on those

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<v Speaker 3>particular names. But now, well, let's go back to a

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<v Speaker 3>company that was once public and now isn't Bloomberg reporting

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<v Speaker 3>to then after Ecil Musk's Twitter acquisition and indeed, the

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<v Speaker 3>series of content policy changes that ensued, it's led to

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<v Speaker 3>a dramatic spike in well, hateful, violent, and indeed inaccurate

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<v Speaker 3>posts on the platform. We understand that's after the story's publication.

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<v Speaker 3>We understand that Linda Yacarino, the new CEO, tweeted calling,

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<v Speaker 3>look that researchers findings are incorrect, they're misleading, and indeed

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<v Speaker 3>they're outdated.

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<v Speaker 4>How do we get this original research?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go through it all with Bloomberg, Sarah Fryer, who's

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<v Speaker 3>been editing this story, and Sarah. Ultimately we've got not one,

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<v Speaker 3>not two, but sort of three different research houses pointing

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<v Speaker 3>to an optic in hateful speech and inaccurate speech since

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<v Speaker 3>Lilon Musk took the company private.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, even more than that sided in the story. This

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<v Speaker 9>is really a broad survey of researchers from the Anti

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<v Speaker 9>Defamation League, the Center of Recountering Digital Hate Media Matters,

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<v Speaker 9>universities across the board looking at issues like anti LGBT content,

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<v Speaker 9>racist slurs against African Americans, anti submitted content, q andon support,

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<v Speaker 9>a number of different factors that if you look at

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<v Speaker 9>the numbers, all have gone up either in the last

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<v Speaker 9>year or in the first few months after takeover. The

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<v Speaker 9>dates range because these are separate organizations, right, they're not

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<v Speaker 9>working together on this.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you look at.

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<v Speaker 9>The full picture from these various organizations and what they've

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<v Speaker 9>found looking at the data on Twitter of what people

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<v Speaker 9>are sharing, what hashtags are trending, what people are seeing.

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<v Speaker 9>It doesn't paint a healthy picture of the platform. In fact,

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<v Speaker 9>it is a huge challenge for the company to try

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<v Speaker 9>to convince brands to spend their money on promotions there,

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<v Speaker 9>given this reputation that the company is built. And one

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<v Speaker 9>reason we did this story is just because we've been

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<v Speaker 9>hearing for the last few months from brands saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't really know if I want to start spending

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<v Speaker 9>again on Twitter. It's become kind of assessed pool, it's

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<v Speaker 9>become dangerous, and we were a little skeptical and we

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<v Speaker 9>wanted to ask, you know, the third parties that have

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<v Speaker 9>been looking at this, is that true? Have you seen

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<v Speaker 9>this with the data? And this story is the result

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<v Speaker 9>of looking at that data.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go back to the woman who's got to lead

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<v Speaker 3>about this change convince marketers to come back with their money,

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<v Speaker 3>and is one Linda Yakarina. And as we're just showing

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<v Speaker 3>some of her tweets in response to this particular article,

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<v Speaker 3>in particularly, she says that more than ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 3>of content uses and advertises what they see on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>is healthy. Can you just go back to what they

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<v Speaker 3>are currently doing internally at Twitter to try and write size.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that this is a very common line that

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<v Speaker 9>you hear from social media platforms when they're called out

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<v Speaker 9>for the harmful or violence or hateful content that is

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<v Speaker 9>seen on their platforms.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, well, look at the overall picture.

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<v Speaker 9>Nine percent, you know, very high percentage of tweets are good. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>that's sort of besides the general point that people are

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<v Speaker 9>seeing these harmful posts and that the harmful posts are

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<v Speaker 9>affecting the user experience. What I think Linda Yakarino said

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<v Speaker 9>that she's trying to do, and indeed, what Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 9>has said that he's trying to do is go for

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<v Speaker 9>this policy of freedom of speech, not reach, not a

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<v Speaker 9>new idea, but implemented a Twitter in such a way

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<v Speaker 9>that the posts themselves may remain on the platform, but

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<v Speaker 9>they're focused on reducing the reach of those posts and

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<v Speaker 9>reducing how many people see them. And one big initiative

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<v Speaker 9>from Yakarino's camp is to try to improve the adjacency

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<v Speaker 9>of those bad tweets to advertiser content and give advertisers

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<v Speaker 9>the option to say I want to show my companies

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<v Speaker 9>tweets next to this kind of content. So you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we've heard from them that that there's been some uptake

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<v Speaker 9>on that offer, that some advertisers are signing up for it.

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<v Speaker 9>From our sources internally, we've heard that, and I think

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<v Speaker 9>that that shows some progress. But it's like, as our

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<v Speaker 9>story demonstrates, it's going to be a very long road ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>Twitter is still down fifty percent in advertising since must

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<v Speaker 9>took over, and they're still cash flow negatives, so there's

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of work to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll keep an eye.

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<v Speaker 3>We understand that in the next few weeks they gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be further expanding that ad placement controls to better support

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<v Speaker 3>the growth of video consumption on the platform. Sarahphy, just

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<v Speaker 3>great reporting across the board. Thank you for articulating all

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<v Speaker 3>of the shifts going on when it comes to Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's talk about the rest of the world of

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>social media, because well, TikTok, we understand, isn't fully compliant

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<v Speaker 3>withoutcoming European Union rules governing content. Surprisingly, according of course,

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<v Speaker 3>to the results of a test conducted by the blocks

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<v Speaker 3>governing vol pleased to talk us through it is Alex

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<v Speaker 3>Barenka and boy, we were just hearing about the trials

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<v Speaker 3>and tribulations if your Twitter, and of course, well, TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>has long been on the focus of the EU in

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<v Speaker 3>particular because it's got itself got to get ready for

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<v Speaker 3>some new digital acts coming into place.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, and to be clear, this is a voluntary stress

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<v Speaker 10>test that happened on Monday that TikTok invited in the

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<v Speaker 10>regulator who will be overseeing these new rules that go

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<v Speaker 10>into play on September first, and said, hey, take a

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<v Speaker 10>look at what we're doing. Now, take a look at

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<v Speaker 10>our content moderation policies or data privacy and sharing practices,

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<v Speaker 10>how much illegal content we have or hopefully don't have.

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<v Speaker 10>And the Commissioner came out after that and said, TikTok,

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<v Speaker 10>you're still not doing enough. More needs to be done

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<v Speaker 10>to get you up to snuff, but the rules aren't

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<v Speaker 10>in play yet. I will say, Caroline, this is a

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<v Speaker 10>really interesting change in tone. The Commissioner, Terry Breton, actually

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<v Speaker 10>had some words about TikTok in January, saying that the illegal,

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<v Speaker 10>dangerous content on the platform was unacceptable, and this week

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<v Speaker 10>you see him actually applauding the social media platform for

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<v Speaker 10>going through this voluntary test for spending on improving the platform.

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<v Speaker 10>So it's not quite a full thumbs up for the

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<v Speaker 10>rules that will come into play in September, but you know,

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<v Speaker 10>it is an interesting kind of reveal of what to

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<v Speaker 10>expect from TikTok that they're perhaps inching closer, though they

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<v Speaker 10>still have some more room to run.

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<v Speaker 3>That's such a good point given, you know, the tough

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<v Speaker 3>space that TikTok has been in in the EU and

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<v Speaker 3>the US of many considering not only some of the

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<v Speaker 3>content and the impacts on mental health and the like,

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<v Speaker 3>but also ultimately its ownership right, and I'm interested as

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<v Speaker 3>to whether you think that's a pendulum that's swift shifting

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<v Speaker 3>in any way.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, and you know, with the ownership TikTok is owned

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<v Speaker 10>by Byteedowan's it's a Chinese company that has proliferated these

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<v Speaker 10>concerns across as you mentioned, the EU and the US

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<v Speaker 10>with questions of whether or not the Chinese government could

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<v Speaker 10>unduly influence what you see on TikTok the algorithm because

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<v Speaker 10>it has that Chinese ownership. Now, this DSA really has

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<v Speaker 10>to do with content moderation, so absolutely kind of the

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<v Speaker 10>EU regulator looking under the hood and looking for any

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<v Speaker 10>concerns around anything that's untoward definitely plays into that. TikTok

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<v Speaker 10>is also doing something very similar called Project Clover in

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<v Speaker 10>the EEU that is doing here in the States under

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<v Speaker 10>Project Texas. They're saying they're actually going to bring all

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<v Speaker 10>of the data for users in the block to servers

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<v Speaker 10>that exist in the EU to kind of cording off

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<v Speaker 10>or wall off any potential sensitive information from their both

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<v Speaker 10>their Chinese owner and any influence the Chinese government might

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<v Speaker 10>have on byteedance. So certainly this is an added pressure

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<v Speaker 10>on TikTok that a lot of the other tech firms

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<v Speaker 10>that do have to comply with these new EU regulations

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<v Speaker 10>are not necessarily having to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>Great analysis Mags, Alex Brink, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>bringing that story wolf across the world when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to social media. Meanwhile, coming up, we're going around the

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<v Speaker 3>world in terms of tech and art. The auction house

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<v Speaker 3>Christie's is kicking office Ardent Tech Summit right here in

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<v Speaker 3>New York. We'll discuss with the head of its venture

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<v Speaker 3>arm about all things art.

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<v Speaker 4>Technology and investing. That's next.

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<v Speaker 11>This is Blomberg Technology, Christie's Art and Tech Summit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's back for its seventh edition now highlighting the latest

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<v Speaker 3>impact of AI, fintech, Web three, blockchain on the art world,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as that intersection of luxury, fashion and tech,

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<v Speaker 3>and much more to be discussed. Christie's, in fact, was

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<v Speaker 3>the first auction house if you're remember to register a

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<v Speaker 3>sale on a blockchain platform. In wants to stay abreast

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<v Speaker 3>of innovation in the art world, and one way of

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<v Speaker 3>doing that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Author It's vcarm Ristie's Ventures.

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<v Speaker 3>So today the Adventure Spotlight is all about Christie's Venture

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<v Speaker 3>Global head Devang Thako, who's joining us. And Devang first

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<v Speaker 3>and foremost, what is Christie's Ventures.

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<v Speaker 12>And thank you for having me. I think Christie's Ventures

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<v Speaker 12>is our effort at trying to put our investments where

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<v Speaker 12>our intent is. We've been in the art world for

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<v Speaker 12>two hundred and fifty seven years. We've seen technology pass

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<v Speaker 12>through these doors and doors across our forty six different

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<v Speaker 12>offices for centuries, and we've had founders, creators, influencers tell

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.479
<v Speaker 12>us about everything they were building. That's deal flow, that's

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 12>what venture capital is all about. And especially after the

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<v Speaker 12>deeper auction in twenty twenty one, we had everyone who

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 12>was building anything sending us pitch decks sending us information

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<v Speaker 12>about how cool their product was versus all the other products,

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<v Speaker 12>and I just thought that was the right moment for

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<v Speaker 12>the first time in our history, where Christie's was a

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<v Speaker 12>detectorganize as someone who is adopting technology at its very

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<v Speaker 12>early stage, and so the venture capital arm allows us

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<v Speaker 12>to capitalize on some of those deals and really invest

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<v Speaker 12>in companies that come across our desk.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm pretty sure post people Web three became a

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<v Speaker 3>really focal point, but we were just looking at some

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<v Speaker 3>of your portfolio companies there, and there's also holographic technology.

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<v Speaker 3>What are the other intersections that you feel really benefit Christie's.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, we have four pillars that we look at from

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<v Speaker 12>Christy's Venture's advantage point one, As you mentioned, in holograms,

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<v Speaker 12>we look at hardware that helps people consume art better

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<v Speaker 12>wherever they are in the globe. So holograms is the

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<v Speaker 12>way we've replicated masterpiece objects like Degas and Jacques Medes

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<v Speaker 12>in photo realistic fashions. In holograms, we looked at Web three.

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<v Speaker 12>Of course, that's around ten to fifteen percent of our portfolio,

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<v Speaker 12>mostly focused on fundamental picks and shovels sort of investment.

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<v Speaker 12>So you've looked at a company that we work with

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<v Speaker 12>called Manifold Technologies that helped us Christie's build our own

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<v Speaker 12>on chain auction platform that we use today. We're looking

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<v Speaker 12>at AI and data because again with three hundred years

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<v Speaker 12>of being in business, we have the tremendous amounts of

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 12>data and knowledge that we can encapsulate. And finally, fintech

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 12>people think by now pay later is a huge innovation,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.479
<v Speaker 12>which it is. We've been doing that since the dawn

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<v Speaker 12>of Christies, like people do buy paintings and pay over time.

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<v Speaker 12>So from the consumer point of view, we look at

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 12>these four pillars and others as technology evolves around us.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so interesting we go back to those heady days

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty one when people's an FT reached sixty

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>nine million and we all just set up and sort

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 3>of gasped, And now the world is very different.

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<v Speaker 4>NFT prices have plummeted.

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<v Speaker 3>You are all about creating value, continuing value. And when

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 3>you see companies, interestingly, what Gucci's going to be at

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<v Speaker 3>your event later today the summit, how are brands thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about web three and NFTs is something that isn't losing

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 3>value but can actually build loyalty.

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<v Speaker 12>No, I think that's a great question. I think when

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<v Speaker 12>people came about, I think the interest levels just styrocketed

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<v Speaker 12>over the last six seven nine months, they've sort of stabilized.

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<v Speaker 12>Whether you look at the overall crypto ecosystem, things have

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<v Speaker 12>stabilized at a level. Whether this is the new level

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<v Speaker 12>or not, I'm not the expert at it, But in

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<v Speaker 12>terms of brands, I think brands have found this as

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<v Speaker 12>a new way to engage communities, whether it's the communities

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<v Speaker 12>that follow artists, whether it's the communities that follow a

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<v Speaker 12>certain tech trend. And I think brands have to keep

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<v Speaker 12>themselves innovative as they have sort of evolved themselves, they

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<v Speaker 12>can't maintain status quos. I think this technology specifically allows

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<v Speaker 12>them to evolve with the trends in the market, and

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<v Speaker 12>that's how I see brands using them. And I think

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<v Speaker 12>this Gucci auction is an example where they're working directly

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<v Speaker 12>with artists to curate a very fashion forward sale called

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<v Speaker 12>future Frequencies. But artists are exploring generative art and generative

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<v Speaker 12>AI and as it would apply to fashion, so I

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<v Speaker 12>think the intersection is quite interesting there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about that the generative AI element, because well,

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<v Speaker 3>it must is also as much as there's interest, there

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<v Speaker 3>must be quite a bit of fear.

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<v Speaker 4>We think of people worrying about copyright.

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<v Speaker 3>We think about artists and authors and those that are

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<v Speaker 3>creating ultimately worried about or the democratization of their workspace.

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<v Speaker 4>How is this something that Christie is thinking.

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<v Speaker 12>No, I think that's also a great question. I think

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<v Speaker 12>the way I see it and the way where Christie

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<v Speaker 12>see it, as any new technologies, it's going to come

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<v Speaker 12>with its sort of learning cycle. Now it's going to

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<v Speaker 12>come with its own sort of interest cycle, but then

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<v Speaker 12>it's learning cycle. So we see as our role being

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<v Speaker 12>the sort of neutral party that brings together academics, regulators, artists, technologists,

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<v Speaker 12>business leaders at this conference. Again, I'll do a plug

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<v Speaker 12>for the conference. The reason we do this is because

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<v Speaker 12>no one alone is going to solve any of these challenges,

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<v Speaker 12>whether it's hallucination of AI or whether it's the ethics

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<v Speaker 12>around using other people's sort of content. I think with AI,

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<v Speaker 12>specifically to your question, I see it as augmenting intelligence

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<v Speaker 12>rather than artificially replacing intelligence. I think that's where I

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<v Speaker 12>think improving the productivity of creator as well as other

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<v Speaker 12>human beings is where I SEEI fitting in and that's

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<v Speaker 12>sort of the theme of the two days, like how

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<v Speaker 12>does some of these technology applied artists lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Less than a minute left the bank? The companies you

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<v Speaker 3>invest in, why are they being built? How international are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 12>I know we have companies from Vancouver, Canada to Australia,

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<v Speaker 12>so we're covering the entire spectral of the globe.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to have some time with you. I'll catch up

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<v Speaker 3>with you later. Devang Thacker, of course, Christie's venture global head.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about that key art and tech summit right here

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<v Speaker 3>in New York.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm really excited about bringing something new and fresh to

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<v Speaker 8>the product on a global scale and something that would

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<v Speaker 8>allow me to take all my growth technoledge to growth

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<v Speaker 8>tech experience excuse me and knowledge and then have meaningful

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<v Speaker 8>outcomes for global health.

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<v Speaker 3>CEO of WW earlier in the show, just discussing the

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<v Speaker 3>steps they're taking to modernize weight Watchers the business.

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<v Speaker 4>So I stay in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Of health technology have been preventative health company vow leverage

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<v Speaker 3>is artificial intelligence to obtain insights derived from unique micro

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<v Speaker 3>file as well as human gene expressions. Now this is

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<v Speaker 3>translated into health schools personalized health recommendations for customers.

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<v Speaker 4>We understand now, I pleased.

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<v Speaker 3>To say, Navien Jane, here's Voom founder, once an early

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<v Speaker 3>employee of Microsoft, well has founded several companies.

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<v Speaker 4>You can come to us with VM today.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's so interesting is how microbiole as well as

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<v Speaker 3>human gene expressions can be identified in an at home test.

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<v Speaker 4>So what is it that you're offering and why is

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<v Speaker 4>it differents?

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<v Speaker 13>First all, Caroline, you know that the care that you

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<v Speaker 13>know our health has been always delivered at the hospital.

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<v Speaker 13>But I think the future of healthcare is going to

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<v Speaker 13>be delivered at home. In the medicines of the futures

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<v Speaker 13>are going to come from a farm, not a pharmacy.

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<v Speaker 13>So what we do at WYOM is give you at

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<v Speaker 13>home tests. With a simple split off your saliva, fingerprick blood,

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<v Speaker 13>and a touch of your stool, you are able to

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<v Speaker 13>analyze everything that's happening in your gut, in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 13>and all over your body, all the inflammation market. We

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<v Speaker 13>can tell you your biological age, your cognitive health, your

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<v Speaker 13>heart healths, your gut health, your oral health, and then

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<v Speaker 13>we can tell you exactly what foods you should eat

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<v Speaker 13>and why, what food you should avoid and why? And

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<v Speaker 13>what turns out that there is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 13>universal healthy food. So many of us eat spinach and kale.

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<v Speaker 13>We hate it, but we eat it because it's good

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<v Speaker 13>for us. Well, it turns out half of us actually

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<v Speaker 13>are harmed by that. So if you have you cannot

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<v Speaker 13>digest oxolate, you should be eating spinach.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you cannot.

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<v Speaker 13>Digest you have high sulfide production, then you should be

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<v Speaker 13>eating broccoli or avocado if you have high uric acid production.

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<v Speaker 13>So literally every person has a unique microbiome thirty nine

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<v Speaker 13>trillion living in our gut, one hundred trillion all over

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<v Speaker 13>our body, inside our mouth, inside our nose. These microbes

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<v Speaker 13>work with us as human hosts, and we outsource many

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<v Speaker 13>of the functions to them. So when we eat food,

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<v Speaker 13>they digest the food for us, and in turn they

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<v Speaker 13>release the nutrients. So what we do is, after you

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<v Speaker 13>do at home tests, we tell you what's happening in

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<v Speaker 13>the body. We tell you what foods are good for you,

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<v Speaker 13>and these are not forever. Every six months when you

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<v Speaker 13>do a retest, the foods that were bad again yes.

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<v Speaker 13>And by the way, it's like you know, people say,

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<v Speaker 13>how long do I have to do that. It's like asking,

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<v Speaker 13>well I worked out about a year ago, do I

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<v Speaker 13>have to work out again?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>How much we know? How much in subscription?

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<v Speaker 5>Is?

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<v Speaker 4>How much is one of your tests?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're doing it repeatedly over six months.

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<v Speaker 13>So first of all, you know our cost just about

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<v Speaker 13>you know, five years ago was one thousand dollars now

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<v Speaker 13>just come down to ninety nine dollars and we literally sell.

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<v Speaker 4>Them at cost.

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<v Speaker 13>So our tests, three of them, saliva, blood and stood

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<v Speaker 13>all combined are for two hundred and ninety nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So if you're selling a cost, whereas the money

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<v Speaker 3>for you, I know that you're using altificial intelligence for example,

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<v Speaker 3>to drive the platform is about economies of scale.

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<v Speaker 13>Things is first of all is economies of his skill

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<v Speaker 13>and secondly that amount of information. So we have now

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<v Speaker 13>collected over seven hundred and fifty trillion data points from

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<v Speaker 13>six hundred thousand plus samples. That allows us now to

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<v Speaker 13>diagnose early stage cancer. So for example, with a spit

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<v Speaker 13>of a tube, just we can diagnose a stage one

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<v Speaker 13>cancer in your mouth or throat.

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<v Speaker 4>And we received.

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<v Speaker 13>FDA Breakthrough Device designation for accelerated approval that for stage

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<v Speaker 13>one cancer ninety percent sensitivity, ninety five percent specificity.

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<v Speaker 4>Never heard of it like that of God thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think a prenativer scans, it's all about how

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<v Speaker 3>you deal with that from a mental perspective.

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<v Speaker 13>How do you so first of all, is that not

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<v Speaker 13>only you get to know what's happening, but you're able

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<v Speaker 13>to deal with it because we are measuring your gene expression,

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<v Speaker 13>so we can tell you the foods and by the way,

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<v Speaker 13>we custom make the supplements for each individual, so we

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 13>tell you what nutrients you need, and we literally make

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<v Speaker 13>the powder and put them in a capsule and send

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 13>it to you. So everything is made for you, made

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<v Speaker 13>for it, for your human biology and everything you do.

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<v Speaker 13>We have shown the efficacy that your depression, anxiety, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>acony and all those things actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Do get better.

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<v Speaker 3>So individualized leaving Jane all the energy. If I am founder,

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<v Speaker 3>we thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>That does it. From this edition of boom Back Technology