1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Thursday edition 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: of the program. Yesterday we teased it. Donald Trump said 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: he had a major announcement to make, and I gotta 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Buck, it feels a little bit 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: like the Christmas Story when he gets the leg lamp 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: and he just keeps saying it's a major award. It's 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a major award. So Trump's tease Buck. You said, maybe 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna come back to Twitter. Not a bad guess, 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Not a bad guess at all. I thought it was 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: a really good one. I said, maybe he's gonna start 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: some sort of vice presidential reveal process instead. And this 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: is trending all over social media. He has himself in 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: a superhero costume that is a NFT. It's basically a 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: digital card, like yeah, non fungible token is what it's called, 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: which doesn't mean anything to like ninety eight percent of 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: our listenership, I would imagine, But basically it's like a 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: baseball card or a football card or a comic book 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: card that is only available digitally, and I think they're 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: selling them for like one hundred dollars. Now, I understand 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: this is kind of funny, but I also wonder in 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: what world would you be teasing this as if it's 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: some sort of major announcement and then this is the result. 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: And I think this just kind of ties in part 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: and parcel Buck, you and I both thought Trump's announcement, 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: while ill timed and given the given the overall outcome 28 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: of the mid term elections, was actually not a poor 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: announcement at all. But since he announced that he's running 30 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: for president again in twenty twenty or he hasn't really 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: done anything, which makes you wonder what was the point 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: of announcing in the first place. And also a lot 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: of what he's done, I mean the releases about Glenn 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Junkin and Ronda Santis, which frankly, we're not helpful, and 35 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: now teasing that you're going to have a major announcement 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: and it's just this NFT thing like a digital trading card. 37 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: I understand why even though Ronda Santis has not announced, 38 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people are just kind of looking around 39 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: and saying, there's just the sizzle. Now, there's not the 40 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: substance behind the sizzle. Does that make sense? Trump has 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: been great at and it's a big part buck of 42 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: being able to win an election is having the sizzle 43 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: and the substance. It feels to me now increasingly like 44 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Trump is just putting out the sizzle and there's not 45 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: much substance behind it at this point. Does that make 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: sense to you? Well, given also where he is. When 47 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Trump was saying, we're not tired of winning yet, he 48 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: could do anything and it was funny, it was, you know, 49 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: anything along these lines, right, he could take a moment 50 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: of levity or distract from the major policy issues because 51 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: we were winning, because things were going really well. We 52 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: just had a pretty disappointing midterm election. Yes, and Trump 53 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: has started to see some major softness in the polling 54 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: among Republicans, right, I know. I guess thirty forty percent 55 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: of our listeners right now are not in that category 56 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: at all. They think Trump is the only guy. He's 57 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: the only one. But remember the GOP when Trump was 58 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: in office, there was something like a ninety seven percent 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: support and approval for Donald Trump of the entire GOP 60 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: when he was in office. Liked what he was doing. 61 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Now we're looking more at you know, sixty percent, fifty percent, 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: forty percent depends on the poll you look at. So 63 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: it just feels like it's not really the time for 64 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: a joke announcement like this. Uh Now, people could also 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: say it's it's so early it doesn't matter, and okay, fine, 66 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: But why is Trump selling ninety nine digital imagery as 67 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: a Christmas gift right now and not have it? If 68 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: he said this was raising money for like one of 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: the great charities, for example, that we represent on this show, 70 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: I'd say, brilliant. I get it. He's trying to raise money. 71 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet. So what is this all about? 72 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: What is the purpose of this? And who is advised? 73 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I worry about who's advising President 74 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Trump right now, who's around him talking to him and 75 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: telling him things that really could have an impact on 76 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: his thinking about what he's doing, because I don't know. 77 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: And what I'm seeing right now is it feels like 78 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: there's a there's a it's a drift. It feels like 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: there's something lacking, something missing right now in the focus. 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: Look that all may change. It is December, it's almost 81 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Christmas break. I get it. But I'm just gonna say it. 82 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people are a lot of 83 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: people are taking this whole thing very poorly. Who are 84 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Trump supporters? I will say I've had them reaching out 85 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: to me ever since this drop, saying what is he doing? Yeah, 86 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: And I mean we'll open up phone lines eight hundred 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: and two A two two eight A two. I think 88 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know hardly what we're talking about. 89 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: You can go to Clay and Buck dot com. We'll 90 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: put up kind of the image so you can check 91 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: it out. We'll also have Clay and Buck tweet out 92 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing. And this ties in with the 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: wooming Trump versus De Santis issue. Now. I was reading 94 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: this morning, I believe in the Wall Street Journal. They 95 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: said the Florida legislature is going to be in session 96 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: until mid May, and so it's unlikely that De Santis 97 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: would make any decision, which is kind of squares with 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: our timeline that we thought, Hey, he'll decide in June, July, 99 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: sometime in the summer what it exactly he wants to 100 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: do when it comes to running. And a lot can 101 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: change between now and then, but this is what I 102 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: would say, Trump needs something to go his way in 103 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: the winter spring where you come back, and this was 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: the pole where you put up buck. And honestly, I 105 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: think it's a really intriguing question if he were to 106 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: actually get indicted, does it work in his favor, in 107 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: other words, to people rally around him, because I think 108 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: certainly when mar Lago got rated, many people responded, when 109 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: was that August? I think, if I'm not mistaken, when 110 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: that FBI rate of mar Lago happened, a lot of 111 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: people said this is unacceptable, and everyone rallied around Trump. Remember, 112 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: I think Democrats are desperate for Donald Trump to be 113 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: the nominee. So there's been this discussion of, oh, Democrats 114 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: are trying to knock Trump out of the running by 115 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: deciding to bring charges against him. I'm not really sure 116 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: that that's true. I almost think that charges being brought 117 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: against Trump help him. And I wonder if sixty five 118 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: percent of the respondence to that pole that I put 119 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: out non scientific, unscientific poll, but sixty five percent of 120 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: them think that it would rally the GOP base around him. 121 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: But I would also always put into the mix in 122 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: these discussions that the Democrat base has been promised they 123 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: they they have been told for years that the apparatus 124 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: will get Trump, and that that may make them do 125 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: things that aren't even necessarily politically sound in the election 126 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: in the electoral sense, but are just something they have 127 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: to do in order to play Kate the most rabid fans. 128 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to start, there is one 129 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: right now. But you know it's so easy, the easiest 130 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: thing the world, to be some leftist hack and start 131 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: a Trump Special Council indictment watch podcast, yeah, and just 132 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: do every tiny minute update of every investigation. There is 133 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: an audience of Trump Arrangement syndrome libs who this is 134 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: all They want to listen to. This. They think this 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: is the single much pry thing out there. And so 136 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: you'll see if you go on the podcast rankings, we'll 137 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: see some of these shows. You say, what is this 138 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: and it's just another version of the drip, drip, drip, 139 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get Trump. Guys, not even in political office. 140 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: He's hanging out at mar Lago, playing golf and spending 141 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: time with family, and they're still listening to podcasts every 142 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: day about how Trump is going to get arrested any 143 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: day now, and it's because of Mari Lago or obstruction 144 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: or taxes or you know, all this whole list of things. 145 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: People have lost their minds over this. I mean the 146 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: same way Clay that we're walking. We're walking around still 147 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: and seeing. Maybe you don't see it in Tennessee, but 148 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: when I'm up in New York City, you got double maskers. 149 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: When I was the DMV recently, employees double masking. Here 150 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: we are this deep into it, still double masking. And 151 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: with Trump it's the same thing. There are people for 152 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: whom it doesn't matter how much less rational it is 153 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: to be fixated on this than it never was. They 154 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: want this. Did you see this reminds me the superhero 155 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: Trump thing that he is selling. I don't even remember 156 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: if we discussed this, but there was a report, and 157 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I think this. I do think this is really funny 158 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: that when Trump was coming out after his COVID treatment, 159 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: he contemplated being wheeled Did you do you remember this story? 160 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: He yes, yes, being wheeled out in a wheelchair, and 161 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: then in front of the media and everyone, he was 162 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: going to stand up and rip rip his shirt open 163 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: to reveal himself wearing a Superman a shirt, which is 164 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: to point hysterical. Well, in that case, I think it 165 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: actually would have been really funny. And I love a 166 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of the Trump humor and the showmanship and what 167 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: he's capable of at rallies. I think though, just and 168 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that I've talked to since this 169 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: only broke, what maybe an hour ago, two hours ago, 170 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: but I've been getting text messages from different different folks 171 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: who are Trump supporters. They are pro Trump to this day. 172 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: They want him to be the nominee and the president 173 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: United States. But the feedback you're getting from some of 174 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: those folks is herschel Walker just lost in Georgia. We 175 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: didn't take this Senate, we didn't have the red wave 176 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: in Congress. Joe Biden is the president right now. We 177 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: can all sit around and argue about why that is, 178 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: but Joe Biden is the president. We are tired of losing. 179 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: We are not tired of winning. We are tired of losing, 180 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: and we would like a focus on winning again. And 181 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: I think even for the most ardent Trump supporter of 182 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: the GOP faithful, I think that's fair. I think it's 183 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: fair enough to say, all right, everybody, it's it's big 184 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: boy time. It's it's time to show some results and 185 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: get things done. I know we're two years off from 186 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: the election. I understand there's a lot that's going to 187 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: happen between now and then, but that focus should kick 188 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: in sooner than later. I think it's a good point. 189 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: What is the best result that Republicans have had since 190 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election? I think there's only one that 191 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: Glenn Young can win, right, I mean, because if you 192 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: look at all of twenty two in terms of a 193 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: win that you weren't anticipating, there were no huge wins. None. 194 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: There were the Governor Lombardo won the governorship of Nevada 195 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: for Republicans, that was almost the only big statewide win. 196 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Now you can say Ron Johnson, it was great to 197 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: have him win in Wisconsin. But I think it's one 198 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: hundred percent Glenn Younkin. I've got another one for you. 199 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: What's the big win we've had since twenty sixteen? Win 200 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Trump won and since we had unified control of the 201 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: House and the Center. It since twenty sixteen, which was 202 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: an amazing election was yes, you know, the most joyous 203 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: and the best election I can remember, Okay, in my 204 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: lifetime as an adult. That was amazing. Since twenty sixteen, 205 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: what is the election. We've said that's awesome, we really 206 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: got it done. Twenty eighteen not very good, twenty twenty 207 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: super disappointing, twenty twenty two pretty disappointing. You know, Desantist 208 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: racked up the huge win in this last gubernatorial election, 209 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: which signaled a shift in Florida of millions of votes, 210 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: which was a massive a sea change and made Florida 211 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: solidly read and really now Florida as a state. I mean, 212 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: you could argue still Texas, but Florida is really the 213 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: capital of the GOP, at least in spirit in many 214 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: ways at this point in time. But if you're looking 215 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: for other major wins, we haven't had them. And I 216 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: don't think there's a degree there's a degree of frustration. 217 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: Right when you're the reigning champ. You make all the 218 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: jokes you want. When you've lost a few bouts, I 219 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: think I think people only want to see you out 220 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: there jogging training, hitting a heavy bag, getting it done. Now. 221 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: That's a great point, But I would say since sixteen, 222 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: the only kind of unexpected, wow, thank you win that 223 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: Republicans have had in a statewide race may well be 224 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: Glen Yuncan as governor of Virginia, and I think that's 225 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: worth thinking about in terms of contextualizing where the party 226 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: is in a mental state aspect right now as we 227 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: start to look ahead towards twenty twenty four. Yeah, I mean, 228 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: we all understand what it's going to be. How do 229 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: we win the necessary voters in Pennsylvania, in Georgia and Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, 230 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of other states, maybe New Hampshire, you know, 231 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: how do we win those states? That's it, Yeah, determined 232 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: control of the government, control of the future of the 233 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: country for at least four years. So, you know, I 234 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: think at work begins now. I'm happy to see that. 235 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Looks like there's some real there's a real you know, 236 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Harmeat Dylan is running for RNC chair and she's a 237 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: very smart, very serious lady, and let's actually let that 238 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: process play out. She's obviously running against Ron McDaniel. There 239 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: hasn't been major shifts on the Republican side in leadership yet, 240 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: but then all is also running. I mean, that's going 241 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: to be a battle in the RNC, right, but I 242 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: do think that it is it is time for us. 243 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: People sometimes say without the GOP, you know, you gotta 244 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: know what time it is. It is wake up time everybody. Uh, 245 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, the time for a lot of a lot 246 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: of jokes and uh and silliness. In terms of the 247 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: leaders of the party, I'm not really feeling that so 248 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: much right now. I think everybody wants to see us 249 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: get some some really big, some really big wins. We 250 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: got a lot coming your way. Actually, you know, Clay, 251 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: there's an AOC movie, AOC documentary there. Yeah, you know, 252 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: we're talking yesterday about people waiting in line for hours 253 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: and hours. Clay had a whole camping thing set up 254 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: in Nashville to go see the AOC movie. I'm, of 255 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: course kidding. Neither of us would ever see that movie, 256 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: even if someone paid us a lot of money. But 257 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: we'll tell you about it and another important things coming 258 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: up here in a few moments. I met a lot 259 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: of people this year doing great things. That includes the 260 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: people running the preborn pregnancy clinics nationwide. Over the course 261 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: of more than fifteen years, they've saved the lives of 262 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of babies. 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The most overrated politician in the twenty 297 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: first century is AOC because I think ultimately, first of all, 298 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: she's not very smart, right, let's just start there. But 299 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't even think she actually has much of a 300 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: base of support at all. She is an Instagram influencer 301 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: who got elected to Congress, and this result buck reminds 302 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: me of when some of these Instagram influencers decide to 303 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: start selling gear and like they can't sell any of 304 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: it despite the fact that they got millions of followers. 305 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: That's AOC and that's what this ridiculous documentary actually reflected. 306 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: My cell phone service is with Pure Talk Clan. I 307 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: talk about this company all the time. They provide nationwide 308 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: five G service, but at half the price. 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Eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 333 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: We've been talking about Trump versus De Santis, sort of 334 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: the story I believe of twenty twenty three in the 335 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: potential Republican primary and the usual suspects in late night comedy, 336 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: and I use the word comedy and quotation marks. There 337 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: have also been taking note of what is going on 338 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: with the Trump de Santis battle. And if you are 339 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: of the opinion that Ron de Santis is somehow going 340 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: to be seen as a guiding light or savior by 341 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: the usual suspects, you are incorrect. They will turn to 342 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Santis into an awful human being when they need to 343 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: do so. And here is Stephen Colbert whose late night 344 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: comedy show is regularly getting trounced by Greg Guttfeld at 345 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Fox News because he has one way humor such as this. Listen. 346 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: New Wall Street Journal poll says that in a hypothetical 347 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: GOP primary matchup, DeSantis beats the former president fifty two 348 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: percent to thirty eight percent. Yay. Also maybe Boot. It's 349 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: hard to know who to root for here. It's like 350 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: a pole between Gonaria and a slightly more racist Gonarha. 351 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Apologies to Gonaria. So there you go, Buck, This is 352 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: what we got to look forward to for all of 353 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three on late night television. We've been saying 354 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: it all along. I think everybody recognizes that whoever the 355 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: Republican nominee is will somehow be worse than let's say 356 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: it's not Trump, will be worse than Trump, who was 357 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: worse than Hitler, the worst person in the history of 358 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: the world. This is what they always do, and unfortunately, 359 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: I think it works at some level because not only 360 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: does it fire up their base and allow them to 361 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: live in this delusion that the Democrats aren't pushing all 362 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: kinds of insane things on a regular basis, which we 363 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: talk about here on this show. But I worry that 364 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: at some level the strategy is just too exhaust normal 365 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: folks who aren't super political one way or the other, 366 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: who maybe you're going to vote a little more transactional, 367 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: and how they make these kinds of decisions. They figure, well, 368 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: maybe this person will be better for my economic outlook, 369 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: for my ability to pay my bills, maybe this person 370 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: will be better for the jobs market, whatever it may be. 371 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: When you have everybody on the Democrat left, which still 372 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: controls ninety percent plus of the media, when you have 373 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: them all saying this is the worst person ever and 374 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: in comparing them to gnarrhea, I mean, it's just it's 375 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: shameful stupidity. But I do think unfortunately it has an 376 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: impact because people they think if they cave. This is 377 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: one of the fundamental fallacies in dealing with the Democrats 378 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: these days. People who are kind of in the middle 379 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: think if they cave, that the Democrats will start to 380 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: be normal and friendly and reasonable in what they're trying 381 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: to do, which is really the story of the Biden 382 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty run. By the way, people were exhausted because 383 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: there was so much hatred of Trump that it wasn't 384 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: that they agreed with that hatred, but there were some independent, 385 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: some swing voters who are like, fine, just let's make 386 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: it normal again. Let's just go back. There is no 387 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: going back to normal. The Democrat left is insane and 388 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: seeks to destroy the country in every way that they can. 389 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: That's what I think. I think you're right. Also, this 390 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: is my analogy that I've made for some time, Buck 391 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: as it pertains, for instance, to cancel culture in mascots. 392 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: If you let reasonable people set at a table, we 393 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: could say, hey, you take the Washington Redskins, and maybe 394 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: we'll give you the I don't know, I don't agree 395 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Indians, but we'll give you the Cleveland Indians. 396 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: And can we end all mascot named debates forever? And 397 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a metaphor for how many people out 398 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: there feel about the progressive movement in general. I think 399 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people saying, hey, okay, we'll 400 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: give you gay marriage. Can we just be done? And 401 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: their answer is no, you have to also allow us 402 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: to have gender reassignment surgery for fourteen year olds. And 403 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: you say, well, no, we're not gonna, you know, do that. 404 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: What you have to recognize is there is no end 405 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: to the progressive movement. They have to find something to 406 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: fight with you about. So when you relent and you 407 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: just say, okay, let's just let's just be cordial, let's 408 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: just end this debate, they don't just put down their 409 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: weapon and say, okay, let's shake hands, we're all friends now. No. No, 410 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: they find something else to move forward because that's the 411 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: basis of their entire political movement. So this idea that 412 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: if you capitulate or compromise, it's going to solve things 413 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: is completely wrong. We got a bunch of people who 414 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: want to weigh in, by the way, on what we 415 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: started off the show talking about Ron in South Carolina. 416 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: What do you think, hey, gentlemen, First off, Merry Christmas 417 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: and happy New Year to you and your families. That 418 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: we have got to unite our party and get back 419 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: the never trumpers and those who vote quote unquote principle 420 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: over hurt over person like of what we're going to 421 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: see over the next three years, in past two our next, yeah, 422 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: next two years, and what we've seen so far, I 423 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: lay at defeat of the never trumpers and the people 424 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: who say, oh, I can't vote for herschel Walker because 425 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: he's done this that the other. Um, we need to 426 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: we need to get people up there in Washington who 427 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: will vote conservative principles and not cross party lines. I mean, 428 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: it would be nice if we had unity, for sure, 429 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: and it could mirror. You know, one thing about the 430 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Democrats is that they move with with behive like efficiency, 431 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: all at once, all at the same time. You know, 432 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: they all attack, they all sting when they're opposed to 433 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: with very very few exceptions. Thanks are calling in Ron. 434 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: But you know, when we talk about never trumpers need 435 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: to be I think we need to be careful about 436 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: our or we should we should be specific about our definitions. 437 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: There were never Trumpers from twenty sixteen. First of all, 438 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: there were some who said they were never Trump and 439 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: then they ended up completely switching over and becoming big 440 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: Trump fans, including people in the media who have been 441 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: saying they liked Trump for years and years. I mean, 442 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: there are people who were calling Trump an idiot during 443 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: the primary in twenty sixteen who then all of a sudden, 444 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, put on the pom poms and we're like 445 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: the biggest Trump fans ever. So a lot of never 446 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: Trumpers were actually just never right now. But maybe later 447 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: I'll change my mind. The true never Trumpers have become Democrats. 448 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: There really aren't never Trumpers left in the Republican Party. 449 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: There haven't been, i think, for years, in any meaningful numbers, 450 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: and certainly on the media side. If you were a 451 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: never Trumper, you became a Democrat all of a sudden. 452 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: You're on CNN and you're talking about how everything Republicans 453 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: stand for is bad. But you're the principal republic you know, 454 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Anna Navarro on the view. I mean, they're you can 455 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: project the bullwark, you know these places, right they're basically 456 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: just Democrat advers in groups right there. They're doing they're 457 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: basically putting on a show for the amusement of Democrats 458 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: pretending to be Republicans, just as a way of trolling Republicans. 459 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: Right now, people that think that there may be a 460 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: better option going forward for the GOP in this election 461 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: than Trump, I don't think it's fair to call them 462 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: never Trumpers. They would be in the not this time 463 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: as much as I loved him last time Trumpers. That's 464 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: which I think could be the majority of the Republican Party, 465 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: depending on where you are polling and what is going 466 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: on in the exact moments, Robert and Jonesboro, Arkansas. What 467 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: do you have for us? Yeah, we're here with you. 468 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: What you got. I can't see how things like you're 469 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: not supporting Trump after all he did while he was 470 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: in office, all the accomplishments. I know this diston before 471 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: before he ever got elected, and Nollah thought he could 472 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: and he did. And I believe that if we sit together, 473 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: we could get him elected again. I can't see any 474 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: other president who did what he did while he was 475 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: in just for four years doing that again. Why don't 476 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: we Well, so here's a good question for you, Robert, 477 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: because Buck raised this as I think a very valid question. 478 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: Since twenty sixteen, we've had the twenty eighteen elections, we've 479 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: had the twenty twenty elections, and we've had the twenty 480 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: twenty two elections. Robert, that's six years where people in 481 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: America have been able to go out and vote. How 482 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: many of those elections did you wake up the next 483 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: morning and feel good? Well? I believe just like in 484 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: the sports analogy, you know we sometimes we were playing 485 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: a better team. Well, the other team will spot you 486 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: some points. Well, we're already we're doing that already. We 487 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: have to spot the Democrats points, well, we don't have 488 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: to have a week. They are they take it. They 489 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: have the media, they have whatever they can do, which 490 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: I do. I believe that they can manipulate some things. 491 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, we started behind, but if we play hard, 492 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: we can win. I'm curious. I'm curious. I want to 493 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: know what why do you think. Let's just say that, 494 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: first of all, Clayton I have both been vociferous about 495 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Trump is the nominee. We will march through whatever we can. 496 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, we'll go through the eighth circle of Hell 497 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: to help Donald Trump defeat the Democrats. So just to 498 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: be clear, there's absolutely no part of either of us 499 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: that are not supporting Trump, aren't in favor of Trump, 500 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: don't like Trump. That's not a real thing. We are 501 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: in a primary cycle though right now, and there may 502 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: be a challenger to Trump, and we're having a conversation 503 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: about who else might get involved and what the dynamics 504 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: of the party may be. You seem very confident that 505 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Trump is the future of the party in twenty twenty four. 506 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: What would be different about twenty twenty four in your 507 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: mind than twenty twenty if we get rid of some 508 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: of the corruption with the voting. I think that that 509 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: was probably the biggest part of the loss. But you know, 510 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: I know that some don't agree with that. They change 511 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: the rules, they rigged the system. There were definitely things 512 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: that they did that made twenty twenty or it was 513 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: a rigged election with Twitter. We've talked about this other 514 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: So don't by the way, I'm not pushing you in 515 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: a quarter, sir at all. I want to know what 516 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: you think about this. I think your point about twenty 517 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: twenty having some particular issues is very valid, but I 518 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: think we need to air these things out so that 519 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about. Okay, So, how do we make sure 520 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: that if they are going to have mail in ballots, 521 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: let's say, after they change the drink COVID, we match 522 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: them in states in twenty twenty four if Trump is 523 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: on the ballot. You see what I'm saying. I mean, 524 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm just We've got to look at what's actually going 525 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: on so that we actually get the win. To keep 526 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: going with sports analogy mindset here, my concerned thank you 527 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: for the call, Robert. My concerned buck as we look 528 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: forward is if you do want to use the sports analogy, 529 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: it feels to me and this is what I've been 530 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: spending so much of my time on the book. I've 531 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: got a book coming out in September. It feels to 532 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: me like everybody's trying to win a presidential election by 533 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: a last second field goal. And I mean that for 534 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans. You know, everybody is knows that the 535 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: race is going to come down to a field goal. 536 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: And my thought is, why would you ever try to 537 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: set out to win a game by only a field goal. 538 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: That's the concept that I want everybody else out there 539 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: thinking we should I really believe this in twenty twenty four, 540 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: Republican policies are far better than Democrat policies. Whoever the 541 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: nominee is should win a comparative landslide. Buck, I don't 542 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: think this should be close. And so how do we 543 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: put it together? Best foot for We're knowing the obstacles 544 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: we have, ballot harvesting, mail ballots, the fact that we're 545 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: this show one of the few places that will actually 546 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: give a direct truth to the American public. We have disadvantages. 547 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: That's part of developing a game plan. No team is perfect, 548 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: but our advantages are better than theirs. We have a 549 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: better story to tell how do we win that decisive 550 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: victory which breaks what I would say, the woke fever 551 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party. That's the question that I want 552 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: everybody out there. 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Some of them 581 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: might be like I hate you guys, I can't believe 582 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: you would say, but the ones we get I am 583 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: really impressed by. Encourage you to go be checking out 584 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com to see all of the 585 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: latest that is out there that we are doing on 586 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: this show. And as we're coming up on the end 587 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, this is our first seems crazy 588 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: because it feels like we've been doing this show for 589 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: a long time now. Buck, this is our first full 590 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: year that we have been with this audience. Now, we 591 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: came in last year, and certainly this is the first 592 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: full election cycle going through the mid terms. I can't 593 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: tell you how much fun we've had. Now we want 594 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: to have some dubs, and I think that is we 595 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: came in early. And I think that's such an interesting question. 596 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: In the end, I want all of the callers out 597 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: there and listeners to be thinking about this. I was thinking, Hey, 598 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: the last real surprise win that Republicans have had, I 599 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: would say, is Glenn Yunkin in twenty twenty one governorship 600 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: of of the state of Virginia. Yeah, but your point, 601 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking of going back to twenty But your 602 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: point going back to eighteen. I guess you could say. 603 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: In eighteen, look, we got to Santa's in office, Brian 604 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: Kemp went down in Georgia, there were some close elections 605 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: that turned into big wins. But you're right, we haven't 606 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: stacked a lot of dubs, and I think that frustration 607 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: is kind of coming through in terms of people projecting 608 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: towards twenty four. I will just say this, and I'm 609 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: not claiming that there is an exact analogy here, but 610 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: it is worth noting. Barack Obama for the Democrats, was 611 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: a once in a generation political candidate in terms of 612 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: the kind of votes he was able to get the 613 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: level of victory he was able to achieve in twenty 614 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve. That said, 615 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: and now he got two terms. Yeah, Barack Obama's popularity 616 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: as Barack Obama never translated into big ins across the 617 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: board for other Democrats. So you know, this is something 618 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: to factor into everything as well. You may have somebody 619 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: who is very effective as an individual candidate, and then 620 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: you think that there will be this movement that builds 621 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: for there was no Obama movement. There was Barack Obama 622 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: the candidate. Yeah. So I think that's also going to 623 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: factor into a lot of a lot of these Republicans 624 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: that are looking to get into this next cycle. What 625 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: are they really going to be running on? I mean, 626 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: are they are they going to be maga or are 627 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: they going to be tailored to their state's interest Let's say, 628 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: if they're a Senator or a congressman, their district's inserts. 629 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: I just think that we're at a point now where 630 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: we see the recent elections. We have not had a 631 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: red wave election since twenty sixteen. It has been six years. Yeah, 632 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: that is reality. And we haven't even had a very 633 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: good election in six years. I mean national you know 634 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: every two years kind of election. Yeah, you know. I've 635 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: been going back over some data and in the third hour, 636 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you this link because I want you 637 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: to check it out. They actually did a really good job, 638 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: and I just want this changes I think a lot 639 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: of the way that people think, because you know, we 640 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: would have had a massive red wave if Republican voters 641 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: had voted Republican top to bottom on the ticket. It's 642 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: easy to focus on Democrats and independence and say, oh, 643 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: they're the reason we're losing. But if you go look 644 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: at these ballots, you go look at the way people voted. 645 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: In Georgia, for instance, seven out of eight statewide win 646 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: Herschel didn't. Can we ask anybody if you're in Georgia 647 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: and you voted Republican but not for Herschel, you can 648 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: change your name if you want. If you're a figure, 649 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: you know your neighbors are gonna yell at you, but 650 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: we'd like to hear from you. I want to hear 651 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: from the thinking. If there's anyone out there's a Republican 652 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: who voted Republican but not across the board right. I 653 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: think it'd be intre from them to a great point. 654 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: I'd love to your fam