1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 2 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: In hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: hope all of you are having a great Friday. We're 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: going to head out to La talk with the California 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: gubernatorial candidate, Steve Hilton, friend of ours, about the situation 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: in LA. As Gavin Newsom attempts to elevate his profile 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: and argue that he's done a good job out in California. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: We'll see what the latest is there. But as we 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: begin the second hour of the Friday edition of the program, 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: I teased this which has happened in the last hour 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: or so President Trump on. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Truth Social Posts. 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: As follows now that the Democrats are using the Epstein hoax, 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: involving Democrats not Republicans, to try and deflect from their 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: disastrous shutdown and all of their other failures. I will 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: be asking A. G. Pambondi and the Department of Justice, 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: together with our great patriots at the FBI, to investigate 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: Reid Hoffman, JP, Morgan Chase, and many other people and 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: institutions to determine what was going on with them and him. 21 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: This is I'm reading from President Trump another Russia, Russia, 22 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Russia scam with all the arrows pointing to the Democrats. 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Records show these men and many others spent large portions 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: of their life with Epstein and on his island. Stay tuned, 25 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: triple exclamation points. All right, So buck you and I 26 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: earlier this week said, beyond a shadow of doubt, what 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 2: I believe is true and what I've seen many other people, 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: even begrudgingly people on the left come around and discuss. 29 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Which is President Trump's association with Epstein was dropped at 30 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: the time that it was earlier this week to try 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: to distract from the fact that Democrats had acted a 32 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: disastrous shutdown and had suddenly decided they needed to bend 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: the knee, and as a result, they were trying to 34 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: basically just distract from a storyline that otherwise would be 35 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: told associated with their own failures. I've said for a 36 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: long time, and we'll open up the phone lines eight 37 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: hundred two two two eight eight two. It's Friday. You 38 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: guys can weigh in on this if you would like. 39 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: I've said for a long time, if President Trump were 40 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: involved in any kind of significant way with Jeffrey Epstein, 41 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: do you think Joe Biden would have said on it 42 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: for four years while he was trying to bankrupt President Trump, 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: while they were going through Milania's underway drawer at Mar 44 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: A Lago, while they were charging him with criminal offenses 45 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: in South Florida and in New York and in Georgia 46 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: and all of these places. Do you really think that 47 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: they would have been in the situation where they were 48 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: just not paying attention to wrongdoing that Trump was involved 49 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: with Epstein. It's crazy, It doesn't add up. I totally 50 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: co sign on that, and I would add to a clay. 51 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: You could even take a few steps back and say, is. 52 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: It likely that maybe, just maybe the one figure who 53 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: has done more to defeat the forces of the demonic 54 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: left than anybody else in America in the last decade, 55 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: that they lied about in every imaginable way, the Russia 56 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: collusion hoax. They were telling everybody that he was working 57 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: with Putin on some secret Kremlin nonsense. You know that 58 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the lies that they have told about Donald Trump are 59 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: completely absurd. They lied about all that, and then they 60 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: brought four bogus criminal prosecutions. The guy almost made up 61 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: to eighty years old, never once indubted for anything, then 62 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: four all held to coincide with an election year, and 63 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: then also civil suits brought including I mean, what the 64 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Letitia James one was preposterous beyond words. What is more 65 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: likely that this is yet another effort to lie about 66 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, to try to bring him down, or even 67 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: just to slow him down a bit. I don't think. 68 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I think they know they're not going to bring him down, 69 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: but to slow him down politically or clay. After all 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: of those lies, they finally found the one. They found 71 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: this smoking gun in the Epstein files that they've had 72 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: for many, many, many years and gone through a million times. Already, 73 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: give me a break, like this is just this is absurd, 74 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: This is not serious. People cannot make this argument to 75 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: me and be taken seriously correct. 76 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: And so Trump is now saying, Okay, if you want 77 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: to aggressively go back into the Epstein. 78 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: Story, Why would we not, Why would we not. 79 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Decide that we're going to actually go to what is 80 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: the real only mystery I think of Epstein at this point, 81 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 2: which is how did he actually get all the money 82 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: that he had? And I understand some people out there like, oh, 83 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: you know, you don't really break down the difference of wealth. 84 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 2: But there's a big difference between being worth ten million 85 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: dollars and being worth one hundred million dollars. And there's 86 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: a big difference between being worth one hundred million dollars 87 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: and five hundred million dollars or seven hundred million dollars. 88 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: And as you get up in those big numbers, it 89 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: becomes almost impossible to be worth five hundred million dollars 90 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: or more. And they're not too be a really traceable 91 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: way that your wealth exists. Now, maybe you inherited it. 92 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: There's lots of super rich people out there that inherit 93 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: vast sums of money that occurs, and but that's connected 94 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: to at some point a windfall that someone in the 95 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: family got. You're a Walton air because Sam Walton did 96 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: what he did with Walmart. You're an air of the Rockefellers, 97 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: or of the Gettys, or any of these numbers of 98 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: these families that are just as. 99 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: Easy as wealth imaginable to trace, because it's already been 100 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: traced before he's got everybody already knows so. But you can't. 101 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just here to tell you you can't be 102 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: worth over five hundred million dollars without typically there being 103 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: something that you created, something massive that you owned and 104 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: you sold. Except for Jeffrey Epstein, how. 105 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Is he so incredibly wealthy despite the fact that he's 106 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: never really created anything. He's never founded a company that 107 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: was wildly successful, he's never made you know, he's not 108 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: a hedge fund guy who has multi billions of dollars 109 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: that he's managing and he's taken a share of. It 110 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: just doesn't add up. And so Trump is asking, Hey, 111 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: how about these banks start to explain some of these transactions. 112 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's a really great question, because Buck, 113 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: I will tell you the banks typically pay a lot 114 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: of attention if a million dollars is being wired from 115 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: one place to another. 116 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I was looking and reading about this. There were times 117 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: when there were tens of millions of dollars being wired 118 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: around to Epstein, some of these transactions were over one 119 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, Buck, Clay, in the world is going 120 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: on here? Have you ever have you ever seen the 121 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: place that was rated on the Upper East Side in 122 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the seventies, Have you ever told this spectacular? I mean 123 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: so I grew up a few blocks from there, and 124 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I always knew growing growing up there that the townhouses 125 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: between Madison and Fifth Avenue in the sixties, the seventies 126 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: and some of the eighties truly used to belong to 127 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: industrial barons of the turn of the century. I mean 128 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: some of them they're now museums or their embassies or 129 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, they've transformed a lot of them. But the 130 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: ones that are still lived in by people, I think 131 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: they say that that house that he lived in was 132 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: a sixty to eighty million dollar townhouse if it's a 133 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: true mansion, a mansion in one of the most expensive 134 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: for square foot real estate places on the planet. And 135 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: he was given it. He didn't purchase it, it was 136 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: given to him. That's a very strange move. And you 137 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: look at a lot of the other things here too. 138 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Look this guy. There's the idea that they're going to 139 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: be able to get away with not having more transparency 140 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: on this, I think is just that's just going to 141 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: fall by the wayside. They're going to because now the 142 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Democrats have opened and they're selectively picking oh what about this, 143 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: what about this, trying to insinuate things. There's no they're 144 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: no wrongdoing of any kind than anything they've released. They're 145 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: just oh so and so said this they're releasing selective 146 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: hearsay from Epstein in order to try to make at 147 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: some level, I'm annoyed because now it is working and 148 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: that we're all talking about this instead of the huge 149 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: Democrat failure of the shutdown. We're talking about this instead 150 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: of instead of affordability, which Democrats won't that's going to 151 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: be the as I said, you're gonna hear about that 152 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: until we're all just so sick of the word. But 153 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, used to be pay your fair share. That 154 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: was the thing we were hearing from Democrats ad nauseum 155 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: in the Obama era. Pay your fair share, Pay your 156 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: fair share. It's gonna be affordability. But Clay, when Trump 157 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: weighs in on this one, I think he might have 158 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: wrong footed some of his critics here because why can't 159 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: we on what basis could we be excluded from seeing 160 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: the finance of all of this. That's a great question. 161 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: So what I've been asking for a long time. That's 162 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: always the thing that has not added up to me 163 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: at all. And that's always the component of this that 164 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: I've heard people say, oh, we know, and then I 165 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: always say, well, but the public doesn't know. We should 166 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: know what happened here. That's a lot of money. That's 167 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money, right, I mean they went after 168 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump with thirty four felony charges for a book 169 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: keeping not even error, just keeping the books the way 170 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: that he wanted to over what was it one hundred 171 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and fifty grand? Oh basically yes, right, It wasn't like 172 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: something like that. It was like one hundred something grand 173 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: for the for the you know, the NDA payment. And 174 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: they don't they can't tell us this the idea that 175 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: he was a financial advisor too. I know something about this. 176 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I know some financial advisors. One percent is pretty standard 177 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: in the industry. So please don't call it and say, buck, 178 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll get you a great deal. You know, I'll do 179 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: half a percent, right, I'm just saying about one percent? 180 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Is you usually what an asset manager for individuals will take. 181 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Some will take two. But that can be a little, 182 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's all that that People will say that 183 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: feels like a lot, especially over time. How do you 184 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: get from I manage assets really for really wealthy people, 185 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: as Jeffrey Epstein's to I'm worth six hundred million dollars 186 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: that clay they have found correct. This guy was operating 187 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: at a level of wealth and sophistication. I'm sure there 188 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: was money stashed in accounts that has not been found. 189 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: And his argument, because I've read this, the argument seems 190 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: to be that he was really good at finding tax 191 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: avoidance strategies. Okay, there are lots of those guys out 192 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: there that are pretty good at finding tax avoidance strategies. 193 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: And I read some of these emails where he's saying, Hey, 194 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: I expect to be paid eighty million dollars this year. 195 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: It just doesn't add up, and so I give Trump 196 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: credit here. I think this is a this is a 197 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: move that going to make some people. Can I justarticularly 198 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: these banks. 199 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: I just want to say that the first thing that 200 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: comes up from groc Okay, for anyone who says, oh 201 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: it's shut up, this is no one or this is 202 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: the first you grock, I will say, this is a 203 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: big thing for me. Clay, I always wondered, when am 204 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: I when are those are those leftists at Google going 205 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: to lose my search business? They have I grock now 206 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: over Google every time if I'm just looking for basic information. 207 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I grock over Google every time I went into greg 208 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: which is the x AI search. For any of you 209 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: who don't have it. It's very useful, I'm gonna tell you, 210 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: and it gives very good information. I use it for 211 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: a whole range of things. And I am an I'm 212 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: an investor. Just a full disclosure. I'm an investor also 213 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: in an Xai. But here's what comes up. The origins 214 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's wealth remain one of the most debated 215 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: and opaque aspects of his life. No definitive, fully documented 216 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: at explanation has been made public. Much of what is 217 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: known has come from court documents, investigative reporting, and statements 218 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: by people who knew him, Clay, no definitive explanation has 219 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: been made public. That is unacceptable. That is unacceptable. I 220 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: mean it clearly could who was given him the money? 221 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: And there's been a financial accounting on his death because 222 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: when you die, obviously as a part of the will 223 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: and the estate, they have to figure out what your 224 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: assets are. There've been the huge lawsuits, so the Epstein 225 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: victims have gotten paid out substantial, like over one hundred 226 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: million dollars I think, among other dollars. I think is 227 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: even more than that. So there's been a financial settlement 228 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: of some sort there. But yeah, how the money ever 229 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: got there. Nobody can really explain how he went from 230 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: a guy buck He worked as a teacher at a 231 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: Manhattan private school, so I mean he had no money, right, 232 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we probably got some teachers out there listening him. 233 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: In after taked his credentials to get that job too. 234 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: And this guy's been to fraudster his whole life. In 235 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,239 Speaker 1: addition to everything else, he ends up being worth hundreds 236 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. It just again, it does not 237 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: add up. And I think a lot of you out 238 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: there they've skipped over where the money came from that 239 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: allowed him to even have this lifestyle. But I think 240 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: it's the most important question out there. So Trump is 241 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: saying now, and Trump has no love lost for a 242 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: lot of these banks because they debanked him. As Eric 243 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Trump has come on and talked about with us. Suddenly 244 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: the Trump organization after his first term couldn't even have 245 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: bank accounts, So good for him. I like this move. 246 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about something happy and joyous and take a 247 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: turn into the holidays here for a second. Look. I'm 248 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: not saying that I try to just get it all 249 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: done at once, but I did all of the gifts 250 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: from my family in New York. I'm talking new sheets, pillows, blankets, 251 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: amazing stuff. Jall came from Crozy Earth. In fact, my 252 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: mom was just telling me that she was all wrapped 253 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: up in her Cozy Earth bubble blanket last night. Absolutely 254 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: fan and they needed up there in New York. Sorry, 255 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: getting a little cold up there. 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Steve Hilton's Steve Hilton. Yes, 284 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Thank you. So we're going to 285 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: have a California deep dive on what's going on on 286 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: that side of things, and it's interesting to us as always. 287 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: California is where we have so many fantastic listeners. Are 288 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: two biggest states for listenership, well at mirrors population, but 289 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: it's California and Texas. We have a lot of Republicans 290 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: who are behind enemy lines. They're still trying to bring 291 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: some sanity to the Golden State. And I love California. 292 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: I just don't love its government. But as a state, 293 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: it's a fabulous place. 294 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: So maybe the most beautiful. I'm gonna get anger emails 295 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: over this. I think California is the most geographically beautiful 296 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: of all the states when you think about the variety 297 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: of this. First of all, the state's huge, but you 298 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: think about the redwood forest in the north, You think 299 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: about the incredible beaches of Orange County and San Diego, 300 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: and you think about the mountains where you can ski 301 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: and basically the perfect weather by and large of la 302 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: I think it's the most of all the country, the 303 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: most geographically, most geographically benefited. Is that the wrong word? 304 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: Most privileged? Most spectacular, what's the gifted? It's just atful place. 305 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Else is blessed. There's a good word. You know what 306 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: else is great? 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Maybe you got elderly 316 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: family members who don't use cell phones that well, maybe 317 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: they live in places where you don't have a consistent 318 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: cell phone signal, you're gonna love rapid radios. My mother 319 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: in law has a rapid radio because she doesn't get 320 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: great signal in her house. But the rapid radio works flawlessly. 321 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: My son, my ten year old eleven year old, now 322 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: runs around with the rapid radios. Get hooked up today 323 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: at rapid radios dot com. Buy them direct in Michigan's 324 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: come straight to your home five days worth of charge. 325 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Check them out rapid radios dot Com. 326 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We are 327 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: joined now by our friend candidate for Governor of California, 328 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: Republican candidate for Governor, Steve Hilton. And Steve, we appreciate 329 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 2: you giving us the time here on a Friday, as 330 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: I know you're campaigning all over the state. What is 331 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: the latest on the rebuild in LA? And I believe 332 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: there is the answer is virtually nothing. But how much 333 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: are you hearing from people that are just fed up 334 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: over the inability of people to rebuild the homes that 335 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: they lost in the wildfires coming up on nearly a 336 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: year ago. 337 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: Now, so I last because it's laughable, Clay, it's just unbelievable. Apologies, 338 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: it's for the noise. I'm on the road. I don't 339 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: know if you can hear in the middle of a 340 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: very major storm pouring with rain, of course, which Gavin 341 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: Newsome and the idiots in charge are going to let 342 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 5: run out into the ocean instead of storing it and 343 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 5: getting it to our great egg industry. I'm in the 344 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: central valley of farmland all around me not going to 345 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: get this water because they're going to send it out 346 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: to the ocean to protect the Delta smelt. That's another story. 347 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 5: On the Palisades, it's laughable. They haven't done anything. All 348 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 5: the time, I'm there hearing from people who are so 349 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 5: incredibly frustrated. They get just sent from one ridiculous bit 350 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 5: of bureaucracy to the next. They go to the building department, 351 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 5: it's a different person each time. They say, we can't 352 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: give you a permit until you get your insurance. Do 353 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 5: you go to the insurance. They say, we can't give 354 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 5: insurance until you get a permit, and it's just round 355 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 5: and round. This is all months after Karen Bass ludicrously 356 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 5: made an announcement saying I have just signed an executive 357 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: order streamlining permitting to help rebuild LA. Nothing's happened. And 358 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 5: here's the reason why, when you actually look behind that. 359 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 5: I actually watched the video of the press conference where 360 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: she made the announcement. Here are the words she actually, 361 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: I have just signed an executive order tasking agency heads 362 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: with developing paths forward to streamlining bermitting. They're in a nutshell. 363 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: You have the explanation as so why nothing works in California. 364 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 5: You've got these ridiculous machine politicians who have no clue 365 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 5: how anything works, never done a real job in their lives, 366 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 5: no understanding of how to make change happen. Totally ideologically driven, 367 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 5: not practical, and that's why we're in such a mess. 368 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: That's why last bit of news for you today, just 369 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 5: seen a poll just come out showing me in the 370 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: lead in the governor's race, ahead of all the candidates, 371 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 5: including all the Democrats. People are sick of this nonsense 372 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: in California, and it's time for change. We're going to 373 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: get that change next year. 374 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: Well, that was the next place I wanted to go 375 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: with you, Steve, which is you have to think that 376 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: at some point the people have suffered enough, regardless of 377 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: where they're ideologically aligned, At some point you just want 378 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: stuff to work. At some point, you just want to 379 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: be safe. You're sick of waiting in lines that never 380 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: get anything done anyway, And I was wonder if you 381 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: could speak to what we saw in San Francisco recently. 382 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: It came to our attention that the mayor of San 383 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Francisco now isn't some Republican, not a MAGA guy, but 384 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: isn't completely certifiably insane, and was willing to take a 385 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: more reasonable approach toward Trump's offer of trying to assist 386 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: in the cleanup. So do you view that as indicative 387 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: of what's going on more statewide where people are seeing 388 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the craziness for what it is? Is that more specific 389 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: to San Francisco? I wanted your take on what's going 390 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: on up there. 391 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's really interesting. I mean the mayor you're 392 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 5: speaking about, Daniel Leering, he's a friend of mine. I've 393 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 5: known him for years. He's a Democrat, but he's a 394 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: non crazy Democrat, let's use that term. And he's definitely 395 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 5: the kind of person that you either he's focusing on 396 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 5: practical things, is not an id logue. There's another mayor, 397 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: less well known in San Jose, just the other end 398 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 5: of the San Francisco Bay, Matt Mayhan, who's also got 399 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 5: that more pragmatic approach. So you've now got the Bay 400 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 5: Area with two major mayors who are in that category, 401 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: and it does show that people are waking up now. 402 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: The Bay Area obviously very heavily democratic, and so it's 403 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 5: not surprising that you're going to have Democrats elected they're 404 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 5: a Republican really wouldn't be able to make it work 405 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 5: in the Bay Area. I think, however, statewide, I think 406 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: that exact same mood that I'd say desperation for change 407 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 5: is what will help me win next year as governor 408 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: as a Republican because across the state it's a much 409 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: more republican state actually than people think. The base Republican 410 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: vote in California it's been pretty steady for the last 411 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 5: twenty years or so. It's just over forty percent. So 412 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 5: that's a gap that is big, but it's not unbridgable 413 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 5: and the scale of their failure every single measure you 414 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: look at. We are the worst performing state in America, 415 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: highest unemployment rate, highest poverty rate, highest cost of burrs, 416 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 5: rent home prices, the worst business climate in America ten years, 417 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 5: and are, according to Chief Executive magazine US News and 418 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: World Report rankings, fiftieth out of fifty for affordability, fiftieth 419 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 5: out of fifty for opportunity, the worst reading scores in 420 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: the country. I mean, it just goes on and on. 421 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 5: They've failed on every front and people are really sick 422 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 5: of it. That the difference this time is they're going 423 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 5: to have a really strong, clear, common sense, positive alternative 424 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: that I'm laying out there. Three dollar gas, your electric 425 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: bills cut in half, a home you can afford to 426 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 5: buy your first hundred thousand of income free of state 427 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 5: income tax. They've never had. It's going to be a 428 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: real shock to them, I think, to face a candidate 429 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: like me who's got the business experience, the government reform experience, 430 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: the media platform. They to take them on, and I'm 431 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: going to take them apart. And I'm really looking forward 432 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 5: to it. 433 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting? Steve? That was all really well laid out. 434 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: There are lots of states that have Democrats and Republicans 435 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: involved that can be successful. There are tons of red 436 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: states that basically have just said, hey, Democrats, thanks, but 437 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: no thanks. Maybe they still have power in some way 438 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: a little bit like in Nashville area where I live, 439 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: which is a deeper red state, but Nashville's a little 440 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: bit blue. But anything that Democrats completely control, that is 441 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: where there is no alternative party, you have abject failure. 442 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: Do you get the sense like it doesn't mean that 443 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: Californians have to believe that Republicans have all the answers, 444 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: but just to say, hey, maybe a monolithic commitment to 445 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: Democrats is not getting us the best possible result. Are 446 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: you picking up on that when you're tryingling around the 447 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: state and making your. 448 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 5: Arguments one hundred I was just fat to say exactly that, Clay, 449 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: which is that you know, and I get real, you 450 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 5: know when we do our town halls and have meetings, 451 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: real nodding along when I make the point that, look, 452 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: we've now had fifteen years of one party rule. They've 453 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 5: controlled every statewide office, super majority in the legislature, all 454 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 5: the big cities and the big counties, next year, it 455 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: will be sixteen years of party rule. And I say, look, 456 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 5: you don't have to become a Republican. Let's just agree 457 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 5: it's not healthy to have one party rule for so long. 458 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 5: It never is, never works anywhere, So let's just have 459 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 5: a bit of balance. Even when I'm elected governor as 460 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 5: a Republican, frankly, looking at you know, we're going to 461 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: fight for every Republican candidate, and I'm actively on the 462 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: road supporting other Republicans at every level because we've got 463 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 5: to elect more Republicans. But it looks like they'll still 464 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 5: have certainly a majority, probably still a supermajority in the legislature. 465 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 5: So it's just a bit of balance that we're looking for. 466 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 5: That argument I think goes over very well. I've seen 467 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 5: it on people's faces, and it's part of the story. 468 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, Steve, if you sat through the pretty 469 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: positive spin, but the Schwarzenegger Netflix bio movie that they 470 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: made a couple of maybe a year or two ago. Anyway, 471 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: I bring it up because, oh, okay, you have seen it. 472 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: I bring it up because one thing that the governator 473 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: as we all call him, who was at least theoretically 474 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: a Republican. Something that he said is once he got 475 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: into office, that it was impossible to do anything because 476 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: the machinery of the state, the government bodies, regulatory agencies, 477 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: public sector unions statewide are so powerful and so entrenched 478 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: that you can't really do anything. What do you say 479 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: to that? How could you break I'm sure there's some 480 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: truth to that, but how do you break through that 481 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: if you're given a mandate by the people of California 482 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: as governor? 483 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 5: Well, the difference is, and Arnold's a good friend of mine, 484 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: I've known him for twenty years. The difference is that 485 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 5: I will go into this with government reform experience. So 486 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 5: I was senior advisor to the Prime Minister in the UK, 487 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: my office right next to the cabinet room. There. I'm 488 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 5: not saying it's a direct read across, of course not, 489 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 5: but it's a similar sized economy and government bureaucracy and 490 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 5: I and neither am I saying that what we did there. 491 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 5: Remember I wasn't the decision maker. I was senior advisor. 492 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: It was some perfect success, far from it, but I 493 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 5: learned how the system works. I learned how bureaucrats work 494 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: and how incredibly aggressive you need to be in order 495 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 5: to make change happen. The other lesson you compare President 496 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: Trump this time around to the first time around, the 497 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 5: years that were spent in running up to twenty twenty four, 498 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: getting ready, having the executive orders drafted, the personnel decisions made, 499 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 5: the legal arguments clarified and ready to go. I'm doing 500 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: that work right now on a whole range of issues. Look, 501 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: we don't have a massive team or resources like President 502 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 5: Trump had in between twenty twenty and twenty four, but 503 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: that work is vital. I'll give you a really specific example, 504 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: one that is very close to your hearts. For example, 505 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 5: the issue of biological boys and girls sports. So I 506 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: went to the Track and Field Championships in Clovis actually 507 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 5: here in the Central Valley, back in the summer when 508 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 5: that scandal popped up again, and I didn't just want 509 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 5: to complain about it. I wanted to lay out what 510 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 5: I would do about it. And so part of one 511 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: of the people on my team is Governor Pete Wilson's 512 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: top legal advisor, and ian I said to him, Look, 513 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 5: how are we going to deal with this, that scandal 514 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 5: of biological boys in girls' sports and locker rooms all 515 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 5: goes back to a law that was passed in twenty 516 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: thirteen AB. Twelve sixty six. Now, we did the work 517 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: on that, and it turns out that the governor has 518 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 5: the power to initiate a process to overturn legislation that 519 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: violates the California State Constitution. We think that law violates 520 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: the constitution in two specific ways. Section twenty eight, Section 521 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: thirty one. I won't go into the details, but there's 522 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 5: a good example of how when you if you're properly 523 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: prepared and ready for battle with the right attitude, I 524 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: think you really can do a lot. The governor's role 525 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 5: is much more powerful than people think. You appoint thousands 526 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: of people to hundreds of state agencies and you can 527 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 5: direct their work. That's how I'm going to open up 528 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 5: the oil industry so we get three dollar gas. That's 529 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 5: how I'm going to end the scandal of these extortionate 530 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: lawsuits that are crippling every small business. There's a whole 531 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 5: range of things where actually by appointing the right people, 532 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 5: kicking out the idea logues and they're going to bureaucrasts, 533 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 5: and putting common sense people into these agencies, you can 534 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 5: make change happen pretty quickly. 535 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: Can I just real quick on the lawsuits. I know 536 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: about this from friends Steve, who just sell product nationwide 537 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: that even if you're selling something as straightforward as like 538 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: food that California, there are these troll law firms and 539 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: all they do is bring suits for the most you know, 540 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 1: if you don't have that there's some like carcinage that 541 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: theoretically exists in the you know, the beats that you're selling, 542 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: they'll sue you in California exactly. 543 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 5: And by the way, why it's another example of the corrupt, 544 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: rotten system in California because trial lawyers. If you look 545 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 5: at the donations to Democrat politicians, specifically Gaven Newsom by category, 546 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: the number one donor to Gavin Newsom over his years 547 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 5: in the office in California government unions number two. 548 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Trial lawyers, not surprising, and they and the. 549 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: Same with the legislature. So they create all this legislation 550 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 5: that creates opportunity for litigation. So that's another thing you've 551 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: got to fight and be ready for because it's crippling 552 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 5: businesses of all sizes and in all sectors. And as 553 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 5: someone who's run a business out I used to run restaurants. 554 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 5: It's a nightmare. It's at the best of times, in 555 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 5: California is the absolute worst because of these people and 556 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: what they're doing. But we really can change this. I mean, 557 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: for example, there's something called the Private Attorney General Act, 558 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: which has passed in two thousand and four in California. 559 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 5: Sounds obscure, but if you're in a restaurant or bar, 560 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: or farm or anything, you're being hit by these extortionate 561 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: lawsuits all the time and you have to settle, and 562 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: it costs you hundreds of thousands of dollars, sometimes millions 563 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: of dollars a year. It's basically a cost of doing business. 564 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: I've got a plan to end that pretty much overnight 565 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: by actually understanding how that law is supposed to work, 566 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: appointing a labor commission who's going to be on the 567 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 5: side of business. That can make the whole thing go 568 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: away without any recourse to the legislature. So there's actually 569 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 5: a lot of things you can get done if you 570 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: really know what you're doing and you're properly prepared. 571 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: Steve Quick on the way out here, have you seen 572 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: any impact on the California governor's race based on Mom 573 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: Donnie winning in New York City. 574 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Did it sort of rustle the. 575 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: Democrats out there to think, way, maybe we're going farther 576 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: left wing than I thought. I know there's a lot 577 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: of cross pollination between New York City and LA in particular, 578 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: or San Francisco too. Any reaction that you've seen in 579 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: California from that win. 580 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what. I don't know what category 581 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: to put this in clay. But the latest news on 582 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 5: the governor's race is our friend Eric Swollwell it's about 583 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 5: to jump in the race. We hear next week, So 584 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: he's sensing I don't know whether he's sensing an opportunity here. 585 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 5: I can't decide who I'd rather face swoll Well with 586 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 5: the endless opportunity for fang fang jokes or Katie Porter 587 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 5: with the endless opportunity for mashed potato jokes. It's a 588 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: tough choice that one. 589 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Here we go, All right, Steve, when do we see 590 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: you on the debate stage? When does this thing hold 591 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: heat up in California? You're gonna be next summer. When 592 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: does it actually happen? When does it come together? 593 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: The primary is in June. The filing deadline is March, 594 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 5: so I would imagine that you know, between March is 595 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 5: probably the kickoff when we know exactly who all the 596 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 5: candidates are going to be. 597 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: We look forward to you laying it straight for Fang 598 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Fang and mashed potatoes and all the rest. Thank you 599 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: so much, Steve. Great to have you on. 600 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 5: Fantastic, great to be with you. 601 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I want you, guys to put the name Preborn at 602 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the very top of your list for worthy nonprofit organizations 603 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: that this holiday season could really use your support. 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Guys, when Uncle 631 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: Bill was on with you, you never asked him about Paton. 632 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: You were gonna ask him about the General's death. The 633 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: accident was only a fender bender. Please have him back 634 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: noted fair. We just we are having too much fun 635 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: chatting with Uncle Bill, so we forgot about that one. 636 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: But he's with us every couple of weeks, so we'll 637 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: have him back, we'll ask him. 638 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: That's producer Rally's fault. She should have reminded us that 639 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: we said we would do that, so you know, we 640 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: don't cast blame or try to dodge responsibility ourselves. But 641 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: that one's Ali's fault. Again, not shifting blame, but Ali 642 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: should have made sure we didn't forget that. 643 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: Let's take ms from Phoenix Listens on KFYI on the talkback, ff. 644 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 6: I really don't understand how you guys could have grown 645 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 6: up to the age that you are and not know 646 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 6: anything about anything as far as it comes to a 647 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 6: house or a car working on it. That's just insane 648 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 6: to me. I mean, and you wrote a book called balls. 649 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean called out here, but I mean 650 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: I wish I could. You know, Carrie's dad said make 651 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: sure you marry a guy who knows how to swing 652 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: a hammer. That was his advice to her. Didn't missed 653 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: on that one. 654 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: I gotta say, did find a guy who could talk 655 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: in the radio, and that's super manly. When we come back, 656 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 2: we'll close out the week. Thanks for hanging out with 657 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: all of us, even though we can't fix anything.