WEBVTT - LeToya Luckett 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:13.280 And money. Well say, take val we are the authorities 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:21.440 all things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.200 I am tanked from J Valentine and this is the 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.920 R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.000 R and B. We're excited today, um in R and 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.400 B money like uh good family member, Uh loved one. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.879 Uh just you know, you know I lost a lot 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.040 of fans um doing some work, you know, with with 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.000 with this young lady. It's very very talented, um multifaceted, 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.880 um boss lady. You know, let's just let's just get 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.800 into who she is. First, ladies and gentleman. From the 0:00:54.840 --> 0:01:04.120 Preacher's kid being he's on yeah not come on times. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:09.800 Oh huh sing a song writer produce that we got 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:15.160 it for comedian in there. Uh stylus control. You understand 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.520 what I'm saying. Interior design, Huh you need a bag, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.240 She's probably already got it. She'll resell it to you. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:32.680 Turn up. Yeah yeah yeah, So can can we just 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.160 get this out the way? Yes? Go? Would you like 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:41.520 to apologize? Devlin? I don't think my dad still don't 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.720 sunk with you, but you know when I see that, listen, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.800 we don't we don't need the full exp Would you 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.240 like to apologize, Devlin? I stand on my character. You 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.840 did your work. I did listen and they really had 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.080 me doing worse. Yeah, And he was like, I can't, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.120 I can come. Come on, guys, Jesus maning for this. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.760 I can't. I can't. Just like they said, hit it, K. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:11.960 I don't understand. Is this movie about abuse? Domestic abuse? 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.960 Like it's like you're losing me and them kids. I 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.920 remember getting off the plane one time and a little 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:27.600 kid going like, no, no, it's not it's I want 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.960 to know whose parents had watching it? Was it was? 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.720 It was a movie. It's the movie that became this 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:42.800 classic in schools and churches. Yeah, they play it in 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:48.160 schools and churches. Apparently it's you know, there is to 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:55.079 keep you away from the R and B singer. I 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.239 don't know why you laugh, right, I'm not I'm not devil. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.840 I'm not definitely either. I got paid to be. Can 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.640 I tell you my bros want to and I have 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.120 to say this every time someone tries to, you know, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.359 make a job in my bro they're like, you know, student, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.400 like take over the movies. I'm like, he's one of 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.240 the nicest people I've ever encountered in life, like he's 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.960 my bro for real, he's loving like this was hard 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.160 for him to do, but he just did his job. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:29.040 So job well done. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.919 Not gonnapologize, get out of my comments. I don't care 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:40.120 what I post bishops Baby. They still think my daughter's 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.640 bishops Baby greatly. It just when you do, when you 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.880 do the work, you do well, you know what I mean. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.160 And it's the mean people that stick with people because 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.760 when you be nice, and movies they forget you. What 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.280 I don't keep getting booked to be the villain me too? 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:59.760 Is that thing. But you know why because we have 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.680 so much um pent up because we want to be 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.200 the nice persons, the nice person all the time. So 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.280 we always have to pack those letn't that you know 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.000 what I'm saying. We always have that packed away. It 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.200 started away for when for when we hit a breaking point, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.760 and I enjoy using it, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.840 Like when it's time. So what would I be if 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:25.440 I'm an actor? Then yeah, you've that might be your 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.359 every day It's so what I would I mean, like 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:36.520 the super nice you might not so direct if you 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:41.840 could just you could beat around it a little bit. Uh. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.400 And we also want to point out, um, this is 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.080 Army Money, the Army Money podcast. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:52.080 And sometimes people, um, you know, we'll go into their um, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.560 their style, bad, their money back and and just just 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.760 you know, just just help with the aesthetic. Hund you 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.480 know the the shirt. Yeah, it's big money talking. It's 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:09.080 big money talk. I knewhere I was coming and UH said, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.320 I just don't want to wear anything. I want to 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.359 put it on. And nobody pulled up with the money. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:22.640 The money in a money got to wear it. You know, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.080 you're super stylish. Thank you, bro, you are too super. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.119 You're you're super super. You've been on it. I learned 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.159 my style a little later after, after Jay burned half 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:37.560 my closet up. Um, but you yeah, he did it. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.919 I love telling this story because it's true. What listen to. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.200 What happened is he walked in my closet when we 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.159 were you know, when Jay was like officially, you're you're 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.840 the manager. If you're the guy, you're the only guy. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.800 We're gonna trust each other and we're gonna take this ride, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.120 right and he walked in my closet alight, but let's 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.719 just start getting everything together. You're aesthetic. Let's just start 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.400 really tapping into the music. And so he walked in 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.279 my closet. He looked and he's like, we should we 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.240 should burn all of this, all of this gotta go 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:10.480 all of that. And I was like, that's what friends before. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:16.440 But bro, that's a real I mean, you've been shocked. No, No, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:21.520 he's right that I was. I was, I was church. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:26.160 I looked church good. There's a difference. Yeah, we had 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.279 to get into the streets. I mean, you could be sharp, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.040 a church could be a church. But you have to 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.560 get me, you know, you have to get me to 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.200 Italy saying you had to get me the wrong He 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.240 got you there. You understand I'm saying you got me there. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.240 And so now I'm just now you can't give me 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.320 even like you dove your casual fly stuff. So the 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.479 fact that you stepped in and no, you know, Jay 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:50.960 is fresh, she's fresh, guys, always fresh fresh since he 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.120 was a baby. That's Jay's It's not a it's not 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.719 an over the top style. It's just always really cool, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:04.640 nice ship, really nice. Always if you crisp, if you 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.120 my clothes, I feel we are going to go back 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.440 in time, but I just want to start at the 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.320 style part, because you're always very stund come with some 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.640 always what where did where did you get that from? 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.880 Where did that shot? I think was my grandmother and 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.000 my mom, because my my grandmother has always been mean, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.280 like until she left this earth, she had her Gucci 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.840 bags and she used to match it. I mean, come out, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:34.160 alf Alfa Williams. Okay, Alfred Williams were shot, and my 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.680 mom was the same way. And I think also shout 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.200 to shout out to my mama, Pam, Mama Pam, and 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.720 we know, we know we love oh who can't love 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.760 mama fas um. But I do feel like with starting 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.240 my career early at what twelve, like we couldn't get 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.680 off the plane looking crazy, like we had to have 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.760 makeup done, hair done, have on the right it um. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.520 You know, we had to carry ourselves a certain way 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.000 because we knew with being in the public of someone 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.600 blogs and stuff and operas, but you know, we have 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.000 to be on point. So I think it taught me 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.800 to be that way. Like, and my mom was also 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.520 one of those people that was like, you never know 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.160 who you're gonna see on the way to the mail bags. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.680 I never know she would tell me that little birl. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.240 I was like, who who's gonna be out there? My mom? 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.280 Just when I'm about to ride my bike, I don't 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:30.960 see nobody but the ice cream man. But I guess 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.480 so between my mom, my grandmother and my mom and 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.480 you know, starting this thing early with d C, I 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:41.240 was I was kind of trained to one of always 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.439 make the effort to be on point with my style. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.199 And last question in the present before we go back 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:52.320 to the past, do you think that that's missing now 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.600 entertainment are just in music? I think as it pertains 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:00.160 to uh, female R and B artists. Good question, and 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.080 I mean, all right, let me let me let me 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.839 serve it to you this way. So with social media, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.000 like people are able to be themselves on their platform, 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.240 on their pages, they can. However they want to show 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.520 up style, the way they talk, that's who they are. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.840 So I feel like the cookie cutter way that the 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.400 labels might have, you know, wanted us to look or well, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.760 this is what's hot, this is the nutrient, and then 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.040 the style, the stylish shows up to the photo shoot, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.839 the album shoot with this one rack of what everybody's 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.360 wearing that's not happening anymore. So it kind of makes 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.000 me feel like, Okay, I love that people are being 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.240 individuals and they're able to be creative. And if they 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.480 the type of girl don't want to put on the 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.120 short dress and maybe wants to wear the baggy jeans 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.520 and maybe crops, however you want to do with this, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.120 do it. But I just feel like social media has 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.160 allowed the freedom for people to be themselves and not 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.199 be that could you know how when it was him 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.560 to do the album packaging photo shoot whatever was hot, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.800 there used to be an album cycle literally an album cycle, 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.360 and the rollout and the whole thing, like what you 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.040 had to either like get in shape or you had 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.480 to whatever it is. It's like, like like you said, they 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.800 would bring you the full thing, the full gammage of 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.000 whatever is the hottest stuff, whatever was hot at the top, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.839 which kind of I think didn't allow people. I mean, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.880 you could you remember I forced y'all on the first album, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.559 the first DC album at the time. I love wearing 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.360 shades on my head for what I don't know. I 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.240 never put the Mothercker's on, but anyway, just on the 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.079 top of your head, on the top I threw a whole. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:40.800 I didn't throw a fit, but it was like, no, 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.040 like I really this is my thing, Like I want 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.680 to just add my thing to it. And it made 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.960 the photo, it made the album, the cover of the album, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.720 and I just was like, this is just my little 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.560 piece of me that I want to carry into this moment. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.640 You know. So I feel like now people are allowed 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:02.440 to be more of themselves. And whether that's more casual 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.320 or you're looking like you running on the runway every 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.559 time you freaking get on't why are my cousins so 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:17.360 much just kissing my comfortable It's crazy? Is this even allowed? 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.120 You know what? Because I'm having a conversation with my 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.160 brosers we talked, yeah, and uh, well the reason I 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:28.160 asked you that question is because I mean, I guess 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.160 in with social media there there has been an effect 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:37.920 on all of that. Um, but I think, excuse me, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:45.640 you all were so respected and revered, very polished in 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:50.000 your clothes, all the things. Yeah, you understand, I'm saying 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.040 it was like it was. It was. It was great styling, 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.120 It was all of these things and you know, great 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:59.719 music to go along with it, to where um, you 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:05.360 did necessarily have to exploit yourself as a woman. Oh 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.800 that's that's the question. Are you trying to get me 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.120 in trouble? No, No No, I'm not trying to get you 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.120 in trouble. I'm just saying that times are where they are, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.520 and so in order to be heard sometimes nowadays, you've 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:22.080 gotta be seen first. You know what I'm saying to understand, Yeah, 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.040 I understand that, I understand the shift. I'm just saying. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.959 I'm just asking from from your standpoint, is is there 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:34.839 a way to to get back to, you know, being heard, 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.680 respected and love. So there's the second part of that question. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.000 So with the freedom of being who you are and 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.320 how you want to be seen, right, because some women 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:48.839 feel perfectly okay with, you know, showing up with barely 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.600 anything on, and that's just who they are, and they 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.600 don't get that's what's who they are, and I can't 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:59.200 judge that. Right. Um. When we were coming up, right, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:04.280 I remember watching videos ducting. When she first we first 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.640 started being friends, there was a lot of music that 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.040 she wasn't familiar with, you know, with being raised in Africa, 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:15.480 so she didn't really know some of our key R 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.560 and B artists, right, So I was playing her the 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.720 Tony Brexon videos and Janet Jackson videos and Whitney Houston videos, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.679 and I was like, the one thing that she pointed out, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.200 she was like that all covered and I said, yeah, 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.920 I said back then, like you can look at the 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.440 Tony Brexton video and she had on the turtleneck dress 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.400 and it was still giving sexy and body and you 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.920 know what I mean, you were you were focused on 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.000 her vocals because you couldn't help but too, but you 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.360 were like, yo, this woman is sexy and she's feminine 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.760 and she's all these different things, and I want to 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.240 be that, you know what I mean. Or Whitney Houston, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.600 she would also, do you know, she would be in 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.080 a white button up blouse with a pair of jeans on, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.800 sitting in a chair sanging her thoat off. You know 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.800 what I'm saying. Janet Jackson did that one of the 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.319 baddest routines with a black tied up T shirt and 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.520 a pair of jeanus. She stood up on that chair 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.960 and almost and didn't bustle shut up it, Like, I mean, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.360 that was impressive, But we were so focused on the 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:19.640 artistry and all of those women were very different, um, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:24.320 but they didn't I am really trying to work this 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:33.040 the right? Why how you gonna pull this on council, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.720 I'm saying, but like it was different. But okay, we 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.360 saw Janet Jackson and if we've seen Janet Jackson on 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.000 the cover of her album, wouldn't do hole nur chitties. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.080 We've seen all of these different things. There were small moments, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.560 there were small here's the other part of that. There's 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:56.200 a personality that's allowed to be seen on social media 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.400 that we didn't see what was going on behind closed 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.720 doors with Jenn We didn't see what was going on 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.040 behind closed door with Tony or did anybody murat We 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.240 didn't know. We knew what they allowed us to see. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.120 Now with social media, if there's some ratstet behavior going 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.320 on to match the outfit, then we go, oh, that's 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.440 who that person? You know. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:24.400 It's the mystery. It's gone. But that's what the internet did. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.520 It did We always we talked about that, right there 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:41.280 with freedom comes freedom comes freedom, and you gotta allow 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:48.840 people to be But sometimes freedom is also a prison 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:56.160 right because now you're now you're playing into Yeah, what 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.680 you think everyone wants to see are what you you see, 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:06.280 you know, the numbers jump off of what they're reacting to. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.800 Everybody wants to be reactive. Everybody wants to be reactive. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.120 So you become now within your freedom, you become a prisoner. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.280 You become a prisoner to those likes, to those analytics too, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.920 and not realizing that forever. And you know, I'm sure 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.040 your grandmama said it, My grandmama said, and my people 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.400 said it. Everyone loves to watch your train wreck. Yeah, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.200 every every no matter what part of the world, of 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.400 what hood you come from, you've heard that in your lifetime. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.440 And now we're literally living it and seeing it because yes, if, if, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.480 if somebody's gonna crash, you're gonna be like this. You 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.360 on the other side of the freeway and be like, man, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.720 why is it traffic? And people are slowing up to 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.400 see what's going on on the other side. And now 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.000 we're faced with that within you know, from the Internet 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.120 and from social media, and I think the music business 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:05.200 really suffers from because we've always been reactive and now 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:10.280 it's a magnifying glass on the reactions. So when you 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:11.840 walk in there and you go to a label and 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.879 they're like, oh, what's going on with him. Oh, she 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:22.800 got three baby daddies. She makes songs about how these niggasation. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:33.119 he got photy seven bodies. He getting out next week. No, no, no, no, no, no, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.920 he beat. He beat forty forty nine, he'd beat two 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.600 extras two. Yeah, it's one of what he didn't do. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.000 He'd beat those too. We canna put his album our 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.560 next week, like this is where we at. Yeah, it's 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.920 a cold place, bro. But it definitely has trickled down 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.160 to the female artists, with them having to show more 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:58.320 of themselves from a body sense or you're boring or 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.440 playing and safe. Yeah, And I remember being told that 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.160 a lot too, like you don't never really you don't 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.160 show nothing like you you're always trying to be politically 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.320 correct or you always you know, it gives it gives safe, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:17.400 it gives square, And I'm like, but I don't. It's 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.200 not like I'm going, oh, I don't want to be 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:20.879 this kind of way, like this is y'all know me. 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.359 That's how I care myself. That's always raised and your 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:31.240 your music, it's not you don't make rashing music because 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.320 that's here's my other thing. If that, if that is 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.600 who you are that's fine. I want to hear the 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.480 music that's connected to that. Now, if you're you know, 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.080 if you're quote unquote safe, your songs are probably a 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.760 little more safe. Yeah, you know what I mean, And 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.800 I understand it. But like throwing, because I've watched people 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.040 try to throw artists into the fire where one thing 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.120 doesn't match the other. Yeah, And if that's the case, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.840 you you probably just don't want that artist, m or 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:00.320 you don't want to be in that type of business 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.920 with that artist because at some point that's going to implode. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:09.280 There's nothing you can't live a love so longly. Definitely not. Now, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.480 all right, let's get back to the beginning. Let's go 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:19.600 to the beginning when Texas. When did you know what 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.960 church for you? In? What mother on the mother's board 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:28.680 came to you and said, well girl, you can shows. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:35.280 When did you know you had something? Betty Hollands, Come on, 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:41.240 Betty Hollands, come on, Bist church, baby, Yes, real with 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.280 Baptist church. Uh. And she would do this thing during 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:49.240 service where she the children's church, the children's quid would 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.200 be singing and she would pass the mic around and 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:58.159 it got to me, I ain't get it, mother, I 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:03.600 just felt like it was my time. That was white 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:10.040 not coming my way, baby, And I think in that moment, 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.520 I was like, this is what I want to do. 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:17.639 And I remember my like, oh I was about six, okay, 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.560 I was about six, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was ready um. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.080 And I just from that point on, I think she 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.960 saw my confidence and the love that I had for music, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.920 and she just continued to allow me to lead the songs. 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.560 And then she sent me to Japan with like wait, wait, wait, yeah, 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.640 how did you go from church church Mike? And then 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.960 she sent me to Japan at the age of ten 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:49.040 to represent the us UM in this big world choir 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.199 they were doing. She sent me, thank you miss bid 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.760 famous hogans I love she still lived down street from me. Wow. Yeah. 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.080 And so that was the that was the light bulb 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.879 in your head, it was. But my confidence was different 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.480 back then, Like y'all know how I get shot on 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.000 the mic? Now, I what you couldn't tell me nothing. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:09.680 The one thing I knew I could do a thing, 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:11.720 And I just wish I could get that confidence back. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.440 I would do anything to have that confidence back. And 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.520 from there, like I started being in the school plays 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.120 and going out for the lead roles. You couldn't tell 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:26.359 me nothing. And then somebody told me I was off, yeah, 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:34.240 and it it's Betty moment because that's that's off. Well here, 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.119 that turns you up though, turned me up. I was like, 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.080 how are you doing to Betty? You was off baby? Yes? 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:48.280 And so with them, okay from a confidence standpoint, because 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:52.320 in this business, it's that's pretty much the major key. 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:58.040 The key it's to be he'll definitely be oky, but no, 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:02.600 but the confidence that's key. You can't let anyone affect 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.800 your confidence in this because tomorrow can be your day. 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.879 So most of the time, because we're in that subjective business, 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:18.120 we all know that we're all opinions. People don't even 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.800 realize how many knows you gotta go through. Oh my god, 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.640 I talked about that all the time. There's so many 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.880 knows to get to the right. Yes. So if your 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:32.520 confidence ever waivers, that you can throw you off completely completely. 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.520 So at what age does someone tell you that where 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.879 they throw Like did you have that moment where they 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.320 where it was like, like you said, someone told me 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.159 I was off? Well yeah. Once I started going to 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:52.159 UM Voice lessons and I became up a part of 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.840 d c UM it wasn't your local talent anymore. Just 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.800 wouldn't the stage play this was? It was the business real, 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:01.520 you know what I mean? And how old are you 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:06.160 at this point? I'm twelve at this point, twelve maybe 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:14.400 going on yeah, yeah, and um, I think you know too. 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.440 Hear the other voices around me and especially I mean 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:24.320 we're talking about be m. I don't sound like that, Mom, 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.359 I don't sound like that. Ain't high? Now? Is that 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.120 Does that mean I'm not good? Or does that mean 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.080 it's just different? Like and you start questioning because this 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.560 isn't what me watching Whitney on screen anymore. This is 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:54.359 someone in my face and I'm hearing the power. This 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.479 is someone in my face and I'm hearing the power 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.440 in her folt and I'm going whoa. And it didn't 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.440 turn into competition or anything like that. It turned into Wow, 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.200 I'm looking at this person with an amazing gift and 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.080 I'm getting to experience I'm getting to experience it, like 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:18.760 how can I better myself? Or you know, like I 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.480 know our tones are different, We're never gonna sound the same, 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.720 but like I need to work on I need to 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.960 work on myself, you know what I mean? I need 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.560 to work on myself, and I think I had a 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:40.760 moment of Wow, is am I ever going to be 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.200 good enough? So I'm gonna play my position that I've 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.800 been given and this and and take advantage of this opportunity. 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.480 And the position I was given with solo was soprano. 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:57.640 So I just worked on that. I found my lane 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.520 in the group. Um, I played my part. But I 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.520 played that part for so long that I never really um, 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:10.200 I never really put the effort to make the other 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.600 parts of my voice, like to grow that, you know 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.800 what I mean. Because I was so busy at sharpening 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:24.160 the soprano. I gotta be on my so I became 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.200 insecure in anything else. And to to even hear my 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:31.560 voice stand alone, because I'm just here for the harmonies, 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.080 you know what I'm saying. I'm just here to play 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.399 my part as a as a soprano in the harmony. 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.520 The thought of hearing my voice alone again or being 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:47.520 a solo artist was, Oh my god, the anxiety. But 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.760 when you look back on that time when that was 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.480 never a problem at the edge of time, but I 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.680 want to hear myself. But then the flip of that 0:25:56.040 --> 0:26:04.440 is what it helped create and you because of the rehearsals, 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.919