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Speaker 1: respected it because you can. For me, I could see

424
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: the work. I could see the work that y'all had

425
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: put in from the rip like, oh no, no, they're different,

426
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: they really rehearsing. Can you give us a little bit

427
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: of like the just just the the regiment because I think,

428
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: like I said, people get confused, was on what this

429
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: ship really takes to have a thirty year career, a

430
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: fifty year career, a lifetime career. In this um, it

431
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: was no games, you know. We we didn't get to

432
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: do the problems and the home comings and the kicking

433
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: it with our friends. Of course there was time for that,

434
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: but we eight slept impede this industry like we were.

435
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: It was NonStop. We would wake up, go to rehearsal,

436
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: then we would have individual voice lessons, then we would

437
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: have group voice lessons, and then we would eat, and

438
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: then we come out of that and we go into

439
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: another rehearsal, and then we work out, and then we

440
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: go into another rehearsal, and that was our day. Then

441
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: you slept all over again, all over again. For how

442
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: long before y'all ever even put out an album we

443
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: started that. I mean they have been girls time had

444
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: already been doing that thing four or five years before me,

445
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: I think for sure. So when I got I got

446
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: it in at twelve, so I mean from it's all

447
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: we knew. We didn't know anything but that. There was

448
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: no like, oh I'm gonna you know, I'm going to movies,

449
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a family trip. I'm nah. It's like,

450
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: especially when we were trying to get our deal, it

451
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: was NonStop. Remember showcases. We were having showcases for labels.

452
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: So when that got amped up, then it was time to,

453
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, do more rehearsals. And we go to Atlanta

454
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: and we you know, we rehearse there and have a

455
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: vocal coach there, and it just it was non stop.

456
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: It was non stop. And the debut album comes out

457
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: at how I was sixteen, so another four years. Yuh yeah.

458
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: Well but but I will I will one thing I'll

459
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: take away from that experience, man, that whole thing. If

460
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: you if you stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready.

461
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: I remember, I don't care if we were in the airport.

462
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: I remember being on an airplane getting woke up like

463
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: at our sleep like come to the front of plane. What.

464
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: Of course, we never asked that, but it was like, okay,

465
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: we're saying the national anthem on the plane as people

466
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: are trying to just to have rehearsal, singing in front

467
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: of people on the spot. We were singing like hotel lobbies,

468
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: like wherever, whenever, like we had to be on point.

469
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: We would sit around and practice our harmonies all day long.

470
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: We were fine. We used to listen to boys to

471
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: men invoke all the time and be sitting by the

472
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: boom box like this show note this show, notedition. And

473
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: we would do that all day every day, just harmonizing,

474
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: getting to blend together, and you know, it just it

475
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: just it was life. We didn't know life outside of that,

476
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And there was no break.

477
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: But what h you ain't got to wear right? Um? Wow,

478
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: that taking your hurdle. But I think that that's why

479
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: we've been able to have long careers, to be okay

480
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: with a little criticism here and there. You know, a

481
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: lot of the criticism that we were getting came from

482
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: a place of love and wanting some someone wanting us

483
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: to see us at our best. Um. And I think

484
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: now we all know how to differentiate between you know,

485
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: the two you know, and also we know how to

486
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: keep our business to ourselves. We were trying to do that.

487
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna pop off. Unlet's listen to the song.

488
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: You want to response, lets do come out. We learned

489
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: how to keep We were talking about the mystery and

490
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: how to keep that. We had to watch the Michael Jackson.

491
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: You know, if there was a tour DVD at out

492
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: our tape, because you know, something like that. We were

493
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: watching Mike all day. We will watch Janet, we would

494
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: watch Shaka, we would I mean, we will watch the

495
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: greats all day, all day long, studying, studying them, studying,

496
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: and y'all were connected to some things that were that

497
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: were also great that a lot of a lot of

498
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: people may not know. I know because I'm from there. Yeah,

499
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: I got some Bay Area roots. I mean shut out

500
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: to my brother Duwayne Wigis because that's how I first

501
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: heard about you through Duwayne Wiggins from Tony, Tony, Tony.

502
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: For for people who may not be familiar with just

503
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, the govern a man. But even in even

504
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: in that, those steps to get y'all to where y'all

505
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: were going, moving to Oakland, moving like as kids. She's

506
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna uproot, moved to Oakland of all places, and listen

507
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: and what I know about the Wayne? Wayne will have

508
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: you in the trap. Hey Dwayne, you know Ian wrap

509
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: that gets you with the whole. You know, incense and

510
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: candles in the whole. You know anythink nah nah, they

511
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: from They're from the streets. They from the deep deep Oakland.

512
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: They from the streets of Oakland. So I already know

513
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: that y'all were experiencing something completely different. How did that

514
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: also play into right, because you're now signed to another artist.

515
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Were you able to experience some of what was going

516
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: on with their group or was that something completely different

517
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: from your completely different. We were sheltered from a lot

518
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: now although we were there, and whether we were in

519
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: the hood or not or whatever, we didn't really know.

520
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we was in the house. He was in

521
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: the house practicing and learning harmonies. We didn't get outside

522
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I'm saying. We maybe to

523
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: go have dinner every once in a while, but we

524
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: were babies, so they knew to keep us out the way,

525
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, we were even they

526
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: were even super careful about who they put us on tool.

527
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: It just all of that because we were so young

528
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: and and very sheltered and protected and there were chaperones.

529
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: It was as it should be, kids on the road,

530
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, we Oakland went first, Atlanta was during Freaknick time.

531
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: Who was in the house. It was in the house.

532
00:34:47,400 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: He just knew. I think they So when do you think, um,

533
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: when do you think you regained at least enough confidence

534
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: to say and I don't want to skip over anything

535
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: but to say I can do this on my own. MM.

536
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: That came later. I'm still I'm still fine with that

537
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, after all your solar success, after everything,

538
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: you still people don't realize how the seeds that they plant,

539
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: especially into children, the words that are said, even if

540
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: said with love. I think I have very now that

541
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I have kids, I'm very careful with the way that

542
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: I talked to them and the things that I say

543
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: to them, because as an adult, I remember, you know

544
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying and this We were kids in an

545
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: adult industry, so it's just kid artists. And even if

546
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: we were exactly and you know, we were getting I

547
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: think we got dropped from the label at one point.

548
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: We got it. Just the rejection started early with us

549
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: because we were you know, wanting to get on. We

550
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: were wanting to put out an album and all these

551
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: different things, and everybody wasn't feeling it. So rejection we

552
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: got our nose early. And that can do something to you.

553
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: It can do something to you. And um, but it

554
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: also I feel makes you stronger. I do feel like

555
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: I am stronger and able to push through a lot

556
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: of things because I know, even with some of the

557
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: knows that I received, I'm still here and I'm still

558
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: my gift. Nobody has taken my gift from me. They

559
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: can't do that. Um, but it does have enough. It

560
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: had it can It can be a mental mental fun

561
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: So what sounded like you had? But I'll tell you

562
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: when it started? So I um, after after uh d C,

563
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: I I honestly didn't know what what it was that

564
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I was being a solo artist.

565
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Was nowhere what I would be. I would argue you down,

566
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I might have gone off on you if you said

567
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: anything to me about what. No, that wasn't an option.

568
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: And then I found myself here in l A working

569
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: with Chris Hicks, Terry Ross, Dave Young, and you know

570
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: what he were like, Yeah, let's you know let's let's

571
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: do a little something, you know whatever. So I did

572
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: a few of these records and Dave was helping to

573
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: build my confidence up in the studio. Um. I would

574
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: love him forever for that because he was my teacher

575
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: and he was very patient with me, and he knew,

576
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, what I was going through mentally, um, and

577
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: he just he was like, your tone, your tone is crazy.

578
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Your tone is crazy. You need to just just like

579
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: understand that you can't stand alone, like you can do this.

580
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, this is sun

581
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so um, we just kept working together

582
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: and ended up you know, Chris ended up shopping me

583
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: a deal and getting me signed a capital and everything

584
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: was fun and all until I had to start performing

585
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: live really and that's when the anxiety, the panic attacks,

586
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: the that's when it got real. Oh yeah, it got real.

587
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: I would have panic attacks in the bathroom. I was

588
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: scared to go on stage. My voice would literally be shaking,

589
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: like to be out there alone by myself and not

590
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: have my girls up there with me. You know, I

591
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know how to play that off. Wow,

592
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to play that off. And it

593
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: wasn't until I got on on the Mary J Blast tour.

594
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: That's what it wasn't until I got and I thanked

595
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Mary at the BT Awards, like just a few weeks ago,

596
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: because I don't under I don't think she understands what

597
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: she did for me and giving me that opportunity and

598
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: allowing me to just be a part of something so amazing,

599
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: and watching her on stage every night, like one thing

600
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: about Mary is going to be from her soul. She's

601
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: not worried about whether it's on as off. Is this

602
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: that she is telling her story and that's all that matters.

603
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: She getting it out. And I learned so much from

604
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: watching that. I came from this, you know what I'm saying,

605
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Which is great too. We see, we see how that performs.

606
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: But to watch someone just go out there and pour

607
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: out their soul every night, it made me go let

608
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: your hair down a little. I get your freedom back,

609
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, trust yourself, trust your gift.

610
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: You're here for a reason. I just want to win

611
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: to have you opened enough for her if you're sounded

612
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: like a dying goat, like you're here for a reason.

613
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: And I just feel like in that moment and allowing

614
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: God just showed up. He did, and every night I

615
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: got stronger and stronger and stronger, and I just I

616
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: started to realize, Okay, this is where you're supposed to be,

617
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: and how long is your set? At that point, my

618
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: set was about five minutes. You got right into it too,

619
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: because peop don't realize that, like twenty five minutes sounds short,

620
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: but for a new artist, because you also weren't doing

621
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: any old records. You just do no, no album, So

622
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: you're giving them twenty five minutes of new music and

623
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: a few come on, that's not that's not easy. Yeah,

624
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: it was a lot. I saw you on that tour

625
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: you did, and I was like, and it was when

626
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: you was you were singing uh uh what it called

627
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: them between two? You were singing tour and I knew

628
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: what notes were coming up? Why does everybody know the note?

629
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: I knew what notes were coming up, and I wanted

630
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: to see how it played outline and I was like this,

631
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: see and you went into the heavens and lived there.

632
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: So when you did you okay? So that that that's

633
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: another question. Did you know that they'd be looking for

634
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: that note? But did you purposely do that? In the

635
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: studio like I'm about to show these motherfucker's I can sing.

636
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: Dave said, where do you want to go with this?

637
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: Because this is the bridge, So you can't give me this.

638
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: You gotta give me that. And they don't really give

639
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: that anymore. But you know, whatever they give you this now,

640
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: he gave me a little bit of something, David, you

641
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: know d So he gave me a little bit of hood.

642
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: I felt he did something and I was like, we're

643
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: going there. He was like, yeah, so he gave me

644
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: a couple of takes of it. And that's what y'all got.

645
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of like what happened with good to me? No, no, no,

646
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: we get no. But because I also I remember that,

647
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: I remember the notes, you know what I mean, Like

648
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: like you said, everybody remembers that. I think for me

649
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: it was more so, oh she got something to prove. Yeah,

650
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: maybe even if you you know, unknowingly did it. I

651
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna lead the back until that was. That's what

652
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: That's what I felt hearing that record, like, oh, she

653
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: has something to prove. Because I'll be very honest with you,

654
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know nobody else could sing just is what

655
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: it is, right, I can't beat, no, bide with me

656
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: and take the truth. I didn't know nobody else to sing,

657
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: so I remember, I think I was I don't know

658
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: what city I was in, and the harmony. I'm on

659
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: the streets. I don't hear no harmonies, so him, no,

660
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: I hurt the harmonies. But it was still you didn't

661
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: know anybody could do that. That wasn't so listed on

662
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: the package. I'm at a hotel some random city. I

663
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it was an event. Did they have

664
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: like some I feel like I'm right. Did they do

665
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: a promo where they like hung something on the doors

666
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: hotels of yours? Remember the first time I saw it,

667
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, she can't say don't fight before it. But

668
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: this is my first I gotta beat, you know me

669
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: my first time seeing and I'm like, cute girl from

670
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: what is this? Oh? Put this on my door? What

671
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: is this? Right? And I'm sure I wasn't the only

672
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: person who I'm sure I was the only person who

673
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: did that because we just were ignorant to the fact

674
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: of you know, we go off of what what's presented

675
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: to us. So for me, I just thought that's my

676
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: natural thought. Then I hear the song, and I'm like,

677
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: what the fuck she cooking? You came out as a

678
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: solo artist, first in the group, but as a solo

679
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: artist before auto tune, before this auto tune thing. So

680
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: what was on that record was how you sang that ship?

681
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: And I was a believer from that point on. Thank

682
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: you from that point on. But at first, yeah, I

683
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: was like, she's just you know, keep girl the group

684
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: and this, what's this? What's this? Pretty girls don't saying?

685
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: That was a young sa uh. And then I guess

686
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: before we get to that next album where we come in,

687
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: there was this movie mm hmm um called The Preacher's

688
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Kid that you still don't apologize. I tried to get

689
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: you to apologize. She can devilely apologize. I don't even

690
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: know where Devil is. Yes, yes, I want to know

691
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: that Jackie. He had on too. I'm sure he probably

692
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: still got that Jackie. Listen, listen. I had a hard

693
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: job managing this guy after he played Devil, because I

694
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: didn't manage him when he played Devil. Talking about there

695
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: was people who still remember Devil. And when I took

696
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: Tank on as an artist, or when he took me

697
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: on as a manager, part I remember there was an

698
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: agent was like I was you know how I go

699
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: for you, bro And I was like, no, like my

700
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: broking act. He was like, I'm not signing him. I

701
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: don't like go from the movie. I was like, you

702
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: really did a great job though, like I'm trying get

703
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: your poet, but it's a great job in that movie

704
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: because it affected everything. Yeah did yeah, but just not everybody,

705
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: but everything. There were people who saw you as that.

706
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: People were like and they couldn't unsee it, like dude,

707
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: it's mean serious. And then on this album currency just

708
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: on their buff look at me, but he's not the

709
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: world mean, Nick, tell me this. So we're doing this

710
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: movie and and I think the coolest moment in shooting

711
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: this film was that downer saying nope, which one I

712
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: think that came off cool to everybody else. But the

713
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: personal moment between me and you that we shared, that

714
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: we unintentionally shared was was in the bedroom after the fight,

715
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: after I beat you up, I hit you and then

716
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: start apologizing and then just start talking about how the

717
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: industry oh my gosh, yes, and I was there they

718
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: only did want to take it that didn't and we

719
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: had a moment so personal between the both of like

720
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: we were having a conversation, not as the character, and

721
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: we got to crying and who hoo, and like they

722
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: had hurt you the thing was called for in real life,

723
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: we were hurt. Why what else? Right? It was to

724
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: the point to where she was missing lines, just crying

725
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: and I was like maybe you know what I'm trying

726
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: to say was like and they still owe me money

727
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: and we are crying, laving really emotions in this scene

728
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: to the point that oh my god, to the point

729
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: to when they said cut, well not stop crying like

730
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: we were just we were we were just it was

731
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: it was a release of some real ship that we

732
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: was going through at the same time we connected. I

733
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: think that's when we connected as friends like brother and

734
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: sister in that very moment, like this is bigger than

735
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: this movie. Because I remember that was like I got

736
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: a song for years two thousand nine, yeah, like nine, yeah, yes,

737
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: some yeah, that's right before we started working on an

738
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: Hour and Ever album. Yeah yeah, yeah, because I was

739
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of in limb again because you know, it's like

740
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: something pain that came out and I had done on

741
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, the cool stuff with se cleving pain. But

742
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: then I'm just you know, starting to start starting to driving,

743
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: started driving again, starting to dry up on me. Background

744
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: wasn't acting right, and you know, but you know, all

745
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: these things, but that moment and then I was like,

746
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I had some music for you. We

747
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: should we should do some music, man, And and now

748
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: we can get into the first of all, you killed

749
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: pretty skid. You did you kill? Thank you? You know

750
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Thank you. You're such You're such a

751
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: bar for female solo artists. You're such a bar. And

752
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: when that bar is missing, you know, like who was

753
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: Who's going to help influence and help inspire and help

754
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: like keep that thing. Like like Big Jay used to

755
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: get to get on me. It's like he's just like, man,

756
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: you don't put out of his music. I was like,

757
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: what do you mean. It's like you just don't put

758
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: out in those music. Like people need to see you,

759
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: they't need to hear that, Like there is need to

760
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: be programming tune that that frequency needs to always be

761
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: available so the people know what it is, so that

762
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: the real is never missing, you know what I'm saying.

763
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: And to me, that's what you represent. Every time I've

764
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: ever called you on stage, cook on demand, every time

765
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: can I get my show back? If I can get

766
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: my show back, yeah, he's gone to it. What I'm saying,

767
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: because if she said most them at the pair and

768
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: so even to this day, you know what I'm saying,

769
00:50:54,239 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: like you're missing You're what's trying to do me a

770
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: good time? Well, first of all, can we just I

771
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: have to do this. I have to do this. Okay, okay,

772
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: do it. I know y'all know me as like cist

773
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: and whatever, and we've probably had conversation about like me

774
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: having more kids and what do I want for my future,

775
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: especially going through what I just went through. You know

776
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I'm like, I want more kids.

777
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I feel like I love my

778
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: two that I got. I'm two and I'm through. But

779
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: this record, y'all just dropped if to write, motherfucker. Sure,

780
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: y'all were singing to the uterus is across the world,

781
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Every Uterus Unite, Come forward, y'all were singing to our services.

782
00:51:51,880 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 1: That damn song does something to the cush. Oh yeah,

783
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: that's all. I was like, y'all put some spirits on.

784
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: It's y'all put some in the spaghetti on that y'all

785
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: did that on purpose, and I don't like it. It

786
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: wasn't on purpose. Was crazy. It's actually accidental. You don't

787
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: accidentally come up with the have been the record had come,

788
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: did the record had been sitting with us for a minute, y'all.

789
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: Let that's it. Why would you do that? Well, because

790
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: here's something you don't know you need something until you

791
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: actually need it right, And you don't actually see the

792
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: full value and potential in a thing until you until

793
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: you need it right, until you're trying to fill a

794
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: void and you look back like, that's what I It

795
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: fits perfectly like a cut, right, And so you know,

796
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: they sent us a song shout out to Will getting

797
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: sent us a song or co sign for you for me,

798
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: for you, um, and I'm like, Jay, play it for me.

799
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I like it. But in my mind,

800
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm coming off of when we fuck we got fucking

801
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: with me dirty? And how much can we do? Man?

802
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: Because we flitched positions a few times because you know,

803
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: we're running into overtime right now with all this fucking

804
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: And as I'm finishing the album, I'm like, what's missing?

805
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, we just went you know, number one.

806
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: We have the number one song for two years in

807
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: a row, seventeen and eighteen. We gotta have some of

808
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: that essence here. We can't outside a little flex that

809
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: was a little okay, it's necessary. I was like, we

810
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: can't not have any of that here. I gotta make

811
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: sure we have that. That President's gotta be a little

812
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: of you, at least a little bit. And cosign Re

813
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: sends me the song, and I didn't realize it was

814
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: the same song since I said at the time I

815
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: need this kind of song. I'm like, this motherfucker's a monster.

816
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: It is. He's like he's like, he's like, big bro.

817
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You know, the guys are big fans

818
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: of yours and they want this record for you as fired.

819
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: And I called Jay, I'm like, Jay, remember that song that?

820
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: Did you let me hear this song? He said, yeah, Nick,

821
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: I'll let you hear that song. Look at it. So

822
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: that's the song. I said, Nigga, it's crazy. He's like,

823
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: I told you crazy. I said, I'm gonna tell you

824
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: what's gonna be even crazy? Here? You on the second verse,

825
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: come one out of retirement, Jane, I said, it's time.

826
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: He said, Chief you know, it's just I don't want

827
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: to hear nothing. Get over here, get your come sing.

828
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: I know the way y'all cried on that record, like

829
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: the way that there was like what women want and desire.

830
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: Of course, you know you like it, run sometimes, you

831
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: like whatever. But it was a very like the sensitivity

832
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: that we need from a man. The even though y'all

833
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: didn't sing the lyrics slow or anything like that or

834
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: any of that, the passion, the what we want from

835
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: a man to feel loved, to feel y'all hailed us

836
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: in that record. Y'all are literally spooning, if you will know.

837
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: It's a central my first time, my first time here

838
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: in the record because because we didn't write the record

839
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: right record in which is even more foreign, because you

840
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we just we do our own record.

841
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: So that's why the record was even that. It was

842
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: just it was such a special record I just couldn't

843
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: get away from. But a big part of why I

844
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: couldn't get away from it because I was just like,

845
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: these niggas wrote a record that's sensual and nasty at

846
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: the same time, but it's like but sweet and it's

847
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: and it's not like it's not overbearing. It's the only

848
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: thing right because you know you'll see the comments here

849
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: and there obviously just the word funk in itself, it

850
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: just you know, just it gets. It gets people. It's

851
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna cause a reaction. And anybody that knows me,

852
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: when I do music or anything I've been a part

853
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: of in music, I don't want to do it if

854
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 1: there's no reaction. M there has to be a reaction,

855
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, right reaction. You put that on, and when

856
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: you get the right reaction, you got something. What's crazy

857
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: is that he don't even know is that the the

858
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: I guess when what what did you say? You said,

859
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: the the there's all yeah, a wine and a crop, yes,

860
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: which he delivered better than me in the original version.

861
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: But his voice. So when he when I recorded my

862
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: verse in in my hook and all of that, he

863
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: then came and record his. And then when I heard his,

864
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: I said, oh he could he croot ain't coming out

865
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: like this. He put it out like that's it. And

866
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: I heard his hook. I said, I got it. I

867
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 1: hear it. I hear where he has a wine. I said,

868
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: I gotta be there. I turn the ship back on,

869
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: put it up, put it up because this is not happening.

870
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: Was coming off as was going in there. No, I wasn't.

871
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: I just wasn't pulling hard enough. Yeah, he tugs like

872
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was going through the motions

873
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: like he was really pulling. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay, alright,

874
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: see what we're doing. We'll see what Yeah yeah yeah,

875
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: turning this stip back on so I can tell my

876
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: grand I made tank re seeing his part, you make

877
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: chicken go back in and redo his verse like that was.

878
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: That was That was clear up about that day and

879
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: almost made to last on the plane at nighttime. Yeah.

880
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: I heard the song on the plane at nighttime at nighttime.

881
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, I get when you're taking the night flights. Yeah,

882
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: and you're just listen to you. Yeah, I ain't got

883
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: nobody even laying it go to your boss that turkey leg. Yeah,

884
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: that thing for me and said it made me feel

885
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: like I'm got in your comments. Yeah he's back. But

886
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: it was perfect. It was it just lined up the

887
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: right way. Everything I told you in the movement you know,

888
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: continues from there, but back to you. Um so, how

889
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: many how deep are you into the show at this point?

890
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: How many episodes? Are you in oh man, I don't

891
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: even know. I think we're uh somewhere around six or eight. Yeah.

892
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: We put on out every Tuesday. Okay, every Tuesday, y'all

893
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: make sure you'll tune in. Leave it to Latoya's cute.

894
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: So I have a question, yes, sir, First, this this this, uh,

895
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: this is what you have leaven to la Toya? Um,

896
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: happening at the moment? Really talk what do you what

897
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: do you see? Is next? I want to be on

898
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: the writer producer side of more music and film. I like, seriously,

899
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: I have some ideas. Um, I've put them on paper

900
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: and everything, and I'm about to start taking meetings. So

901
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: I want to be on the other side of the camera. Um.

902
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: I want to really dive into also design. I love fashion,

903
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: I love I love interior decor. Like I could do

904
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: that in my sleep, you know. So I'm this conversation

905
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: having a storefront and easy though it's a lot going

906
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: on in the world, and it's like and with online

907
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: and with social media Instagram, what why my parents? Anyways? UM,

908
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like I want to I want to

909
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: dive deeper into like things that I've really always wanted

910
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: to do. It might be scared too, you know, would

911
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: you design your own line like yeah, what okay? I would? Yeah,

912
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: top five R and B artists yours, yours, yours mine. Yeah,

913
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: you're not saying what people rank in the you know.

914
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: Oh she puts such and sudding, No, no, no, yours.

915
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: This is who you enjoy personally, that you believe, school,

916
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: new school, school whatever again whatever, looser, gotta start with

917
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: little thing, big louth, a little little thing. Both, okay, both?

918
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: I take them? Yeah, Anita Tank, Wow, you were bro

919
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: just nicking my tough he did? This is the song

920
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: in Return and Produce. Are you saying that she's getting

921
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: right here? You know what I'm saying? He definitely. Um, oh,

922
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: Tony didn't got me to a lot. M Tony to

923
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,959
Speaker 1: talk to me, talk to me to name who should

924
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: got me through some heartbreak. Um, I'm a dang it.

925
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw Jasmine in there, Jasmin Sellman. Yeah, yeah,

926
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: I can't add jo to see because Joda See is

927
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: in there. Like you said, artists, but I want to

928
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: say artists assist the bad sex first? Fine, can't you

929
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: Jody see how he's a child of Davante father? Well,

930
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: clearly I could telling them smile lines instructured fore hit

931
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: top five R and B songs, rude. Why would y'all

932
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: ad see that? Because we want to know that's not

933
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: cool like that would like to know And I know

934
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: that can change every day, it can fluctuate. Jams Man

935
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: jams get jams M R and B jams R B

936
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: jams Yo. Okay, if only for one night? Well, m okay,

937
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: what's the name of a song? Uh? What do I do? Friends?

938
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: True evil? What's the hook? Something? And it's they never

939
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: knew something, they never knew and it's much more. It's

940
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: much more than they ever knew, much more, much more

941
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: than they can be called. I think so. But that's

942
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: my hum too, Okay, okay, sorry, second, Oh, this is

943
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: a hard one. You know what. I can't stop playing

944
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: right now about it? Funny? How time fly? Have y'all

945
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: listened to that Janit record? They were just playing it?

946
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: Where was I? I cannot remember where I was. We

947
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: were on the boat yesterday in Miami on the river boat.

948
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kiki on the river. I'm gonna throw

949
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: that over. And and Brian who is who swears he's

950
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: an R and B archaeologist. He's really good he's really good. God,

951
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: he's a really good R and B official Nodo. And

952
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: he got the ox from Jordan, because you know, Jordan

953
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: had us my nephew. I'm sure he got a turn.

954
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: He was playing alle Oh yeah, that was all rightcheckt.

955
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: But then it was time to go and to the

956
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: RM and and uh Brian seized the controls and he

957
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: started that Janet Jackson and it was just it was

958
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: just a little dark outside. Yeah, that'll takes something from it,

959
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: do something. I still do it. Yeah, the way it

960
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: comes in, did she give you French at the end,

961
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: it is that French? I don't know. I don't care.

962
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't care. Oh my god. And isn't it a

963
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: continuation of less wait a while? No, I thought it was.

964
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: I thought she didn't want to do it and less

965
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: wait a while, and she said, let's wait a while.

966
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: And then it was like funny, how time flies. She

967
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: ran back into that again, and it was like, you

968
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm ready. The way you're putting

969
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: it together, it makes sense because I thought that as

970
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: a young girl. That's what I said to myself. You

971
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have been listening to that as young girl.

972
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, what pam pam, my mama, let me listen.

973
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: I thought that was hot girls out. I only wanted

974
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: to be the truth about a round truth. Oh my god,

975
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't chake that song. I still can't. Um Um,

976
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: it's a voiceman song. I don't know if it's I'll

977
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: make love to you or if it's um we've been

978
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: on together? Is that the same into the road? Which one?

979
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Is it that's end of the row, that starts that's

980
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: end of the road, or is it I'll make love

981
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: to you? Which one? I don't know, Guys, it's the

982
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: one that starts together. I'm to five and okay, five babies,

983
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm not really I have to be done five. You're

984
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: just you're doing six of everything. Yeah, we're letting you

985
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: get away with girl. Nobody get away really do all right?

986
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: R and B Voltron, Who are you taking the vocals from?

987
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: Who are you taking the styling from, the aesthetic the appearance?

988
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: And who are you taking the performance from? To make

989
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: the complete your complete? R and B artist? Why kidding

990
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: shipped from Thank you for coming Chief? I'm gonna ask him.

991
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: It's me and Rubens in in there. He's like, and

992
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: then we can and then I was like, yeah, damn

993
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: man um, and I don't want no trouble for saying

994
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: what I gotta say. Ain't no trouble I'm saying because

995
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm about to say two female artists who

996
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: are totally different, but let's started. Who are getting the

997
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: vocals from Jasmin? Come on, come on, I'm getting them

998
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: from Jasmine. I said in front of that. I found girls.

999
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: She performed the essence this past year and I literally

1000
01:07:55,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: was like, pick up your goddamn feelings. I'm did it come?

1001
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: I was like, is she talking to come this stress?

1002
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: I felt like I left feelings over there, pack them up.

1003
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: This put him in a doggy bag. I might have

1004
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: left a few who You're getting the styling from Aesthetic

1005
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: and Rihanna very Fly, very fly, every fly very Yeah.

1006
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: She didn't like Rihanna. I love her because she just

1007
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 1: do her and like she don't miss especially like remember

1008
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: she was disrespecting the sidewalk for us every day, like

1009
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: she would every time she walked outside. It was like

1010
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: she was modeling white. We're all pregnant. She was. She

1011
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: was still mold. You know what I'm saying. Like I

1012
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, Okay, the belly is all it is.

1013
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: Everything is part of the vibe, you know. And she

1014
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: just got a effortless. She got an ownership, she got everything.

1015
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 1: The confidence is because when it comes down to is

1016
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: they're not giving a funk and she don't like we

1017
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: talked about with a Mary J. Blige. Mary gonna give

1018
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: you her no matter whatever it is, what it is,

1019
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: and she's my emotion because you didn't. You got to

1020
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: add that emotion, Mary. Emotion make you cry sometimes that's

1021
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: what age town talking. We're gonna add emotion to that emotion.

1022
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: May who do you get the feelings? Do you get

1023
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: the film? Mary? Who do you get that? Man? Okay?

1024
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: You feel like she been She will mispronounce a word

1025
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: in a song. You don't kill what she meant that

1026
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: in this Dancer read, I don't even know. I don't

1027
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: even think that they've even made a dancer reach don't

1028
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: I still don't know. It has something to do with

1029
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: the stiff leg dance and the bob that's what that's

1030
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: the place. Everybody does that in the Dancer when she

1031
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: said I should have left your ass alone time ago,

1032
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: and in wind that Down. I've seen it, listen, I've

1033
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: seen it live every night. When she started rolling around

1034
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: on the ground during normal drama or stumping or having

1035
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: a full out tantrum, I'm like, our, y'all, not, this

1036
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: is craziest. I'm in church. I'm having a full borne experience.

1037
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: When I watched mary last one performance, I got to

1038
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: it would be, it would be, it would would listen. Okay,

1039
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: because people gonna argue me that Michael isn't pop Michael. Yeah,

1040
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: I mean Michael Jackson is an R and B. They'll

1041
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: say he's a pop artist. People will argue me down

1042
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: and say that Michael Jackson isn't an R and B artist,

1043
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: He's a pop artist and all these things. He's all

1044
01:10:54,920 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: things Christ strengthen that what no, no, enough that Michael

1045
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: Jackson's R and B. He is go to the all things.

1046
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's R and B start and Gary Indiana. R

1047
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: and B is. Let's let's say this R and B

1048
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: has encompasses so much. And I think that I think

1049
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: that it was hours R and B was ours still ours. No,

1050
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and a way for them to

1051
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: take a piece of that. That's where the word pop

1052
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't know what pop is popular,

1053
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: but just a way for them to own that space.

1054
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: But you know it was crazy, you know how he

1055
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: owned them. He called himself the king of it. Absolutely.

1056
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: But think about this though, like even even if we

1057
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: talk about a guy, a guy named Bruno, a guy

1058
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: like Bruno, Marr, R and B and so are we

1059
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: saying you know what I'm saying, just but R and

1060
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: B saying pop takes it out of not here at

1061
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: R and B money not here not here, R B money,

1062
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: Michael Jose, all of what other names, R and B,

1063
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: R and period, all the middle names. Talk about it

1064
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: before you get to Jackson, Michael Jackson. Okay, so you

1065
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: got Michael Jackson, R and B artists. I'm gonna say

1066
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: to watch Beyonce before I'm sorry, I don't know. And

1067
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: that's why I said I had to have I had

1068
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: to say Michael, and I had to say be to

1069
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: Miami and the rose Ball and I was still affected.

1070
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: I still she was like walking over and ship. Yes,

1071
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: it was just like she likes to splash around in water.

1072
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: It was just the power that she brings. It was

1073
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: a levels of performance that I'd never ever I've seen before.

1074
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: I'll be watching on stage sometimes she don't know this,

1075
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: but I'd be like, we used to do that. You

1076
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: got some upgrades. He didn't used to do that. But

1077
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: it came from It came from expecting your craft and working.

1078
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: And when some of us wanted to go to the movies,

1079
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: when some of us wanted to go when we did

1080
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: have our off time, she was in the studio, sitting

1081
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: there by herself, right in the record. She was in

1082
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: the car when we I never forget. We was at

1083
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: this little like indoor play, jungle gym situation or whatever

1084
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: happen on fun like kids are supposed to. And she

1085
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: set out in the hot ass car and was right

1086
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: into a track. And I remembering, what be I'm going

1087
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: on and see what you're doing. And I went and

1088
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: set a passenger seat as she just wrote this record,

1089
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, we'll be out. You're trying to

1090
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: have fun. And this girl, she's she's on it. She

1091
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: lives this like this, she wants this bad she is.

1092
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: It is no surprise to me that she is the

1093
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: icon that she is now. A lot of other things

1094
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 1: went into that, but I will say her work ethic

1095
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: is I ain't seen. It's monstrous. I am I ain't

1096
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: seen nothing like it, and being around it made you

1097
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: feel guilty if you weren't like, wait hard, I'm not

1098
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: doing something right away. She didn't have to say anything

1099
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: to hold your account. She did it by example. She

1100
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: led by example. Wow, yeah, that's that's a we gotta

1101
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 1: get back to that. Used to sit in the booth

1102
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: with me while I was singing my parts. You know,

1103
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 1: normally the lead singer once they've done their role or whatever,

1104
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: you coming and seeing your foe lines and they go

1105
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: off and do whatever. He was sitting in the booth

1106
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: with us on the lord in the corner and like nah,

1107
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: I tried it again, blah blah blah. And the support

1108
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: she would give us, even in the roles that we

1109
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: played in this I'll never forget that. I'll never forget that.

1110
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: She never stopped, She hasn't stopped, she won't. She's unstoppable

1111
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: for real. That's great. Yeah, anything that has her name

1112
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: on it, anything that has to do with her, will

1113
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:34,480
Speaker 1: be great. Body means necessary, even if it means sacrificing

1114
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 1: it all well, and I saw that firsthand. M Hard work, dedication,

1115
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: hard work, and all that means. Um, don't ask, no,

1116
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: don't I'm not. I feel like I'm being threatened. Oh well,

1117
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: then we got this part of the show. Short's tight. Yeah,

1118
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna bust about him, bust about him. Listen. So

1119
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: just part of the show. It's called I ain't saying

1120
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: on name. I ain't saying on names. It can either

1121
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: be funny, are fucked up? Are both funny? And the

1122
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: only rule to the game is you can't say the names.

1123
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: So nobody that's a part of the story can be

1124
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: mentioned that. You might can say the occupation, you might,

1125
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: can dabble around whatever you gotta do, but you cannot

1126
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: say their name. And it's that sample. Just give us

1127
01:16:54,840 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: a story, story, give us your name. Whatever. Let's get

1128
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: behind the curtain. The curtain. Hell, you know the velvet rope,

1129
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: you know all the cool ship you grew up in.

1130
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: I didn't go to your pin a tin. Come on,

1131
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: what happened you're paying? You still know the niggas from

1132
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: your pet? Come on? We know what pass me some

1133
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: of that? Maybe a snack? Basically want the snacks? Many

1134
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: I don't cooking something, man, I mean maybe saying we'll

1135
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: ben here, eat chips and all the kind of ship.

1136
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: Yes we do, we go we'll be snacked up, baby snack.

1137
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: Get you get your chips. Ship. I'm snacking cold. Snacky Robinson,

1138
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: snacky Jackson. I don't know both. Imagine the motherfucker right

1139
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: now because we're chewing. I know, but you shout out

1140
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: to both because both maddening him up right now. Okay,

1141
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: So I remember I had just started this show and

1142
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: I was super excited about the role. And first day

1143
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: at work called time was like four am. Crazy Son,

1144
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: barely up, I know my lines. I'm nervous as hell

1145
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: because I'm working with some like I mean, amazing actors,

1146
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: and I mean the director was crazy. I mean just

1147
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: the line was nuts. So I go on um on

1148
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: set and I'm in the makeup trailer, um crack of dawn.

1149
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: I still gotta sleep in my eyes, it's the whole thing.

1150
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: And so the main actor walks in and she's losing

1151
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: it on hair and makeup, and I'm just watching her,

1152
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: like this is how we get down this. First of all,

1153
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: it's early. You ain't even six willing out to lake,

1154
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just breakface. I ain't even got

1155
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: my breathfets ordered taken yet, and you are willing, And

1156
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: so where it started. Then you know, I get on set,

1157
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting Mike, going through the you know, the proper

1158
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: rehearsals all this stuff or whatever, and uh, I noticed

1159
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: her energy is a little different on set. And so

1160
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: when it was time to like roll, when I tell

1161
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: you this, lady's past on everybody to the point where

1162
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: she started throwing set chairs and being violent and clearing

1163
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: everybody off the set. And just like I was like

1164
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: losing it on everybody. She didn't want nobody to mike her. Yeah,

1165
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: it was like, don't touch me and get your hands

1166
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: off of me. And I was just like, I'm like, yo,

1167
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: I am about to have to do like all of

1168
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: my scenes are with her, like all of them, every

1169
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: single one of them. And I'm like, um, what if

1170
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: I signed up for it? So she proceeds to kick

1171
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: everybody off set, but then you hear her she kicked that,

1172
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: not every she was like, get out, get away from me.

1173
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: It was like that moment and then they left. Everybody left.

1174
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,879
Speaker 1: But then you hear her the distance going I'm so alone.

1175
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: Everybody has left me and abandoned me. And I was like,

1176
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: what the fun is happening? And I'm on the phone

1177
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: with my agent, like, bitch, why didn't you like what? Whatever?

1178
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: But the sad part about it was because eventually she

1179
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: got it together and we started her scene, moved on,

1180
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: the day, kept going, they kept going like it was

1181
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: nothing like this was the norm. But so my and

1182
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: it was my million dollar question? Is just a black?

1183
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: You know? And that was the sad part about it

1184
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: because in my mind, I'm going like I had this

1185
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: been a sister, she would have been first and to

1186
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: Instagram and talked about it. You know what I'm saying.

1187
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: She would have been black balled. Has she carried on

1188
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: like this? Have you noticed that it's called black balled?

1189
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: Everything black isn't good. It's what his banks. And that's

1190
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: how they made us feel like when you're black, anything

1191
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: it's wrong or it's bad, we gotta star check. But

1192
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: we've already started to work on that. But it's such

1193
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: a powerful word that it makes you feel away. You

1194
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: have a reaction to it. But yes, she wouldn't have

1195
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: had no job, but they when I tell you, I

1196
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: was like, I remember we did also did a scene

1197
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: after and she whirled out in the car and I

1198
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: was in a passage sea of the car and she

1199
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: was using her hands, and I said, who she grazes me?

1200
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: You know how you feel the wind she hit me

1201
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: first moment. Yeah, you only needed a graze, you know.

1202
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: And I'm going and you gotta keep professional under these circumstances.

1203
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: But as a black woman, I'm sitting here watching her

1204
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: carry on like this. No one I couldn't do the

1205
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: same thing. Nobody's saying anything. Everybody's just and the tan

1206
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: from he was like, this ship is not the cameras.

1207
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: What with y'all? This is show this Yeah, what if

1208
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: people need to see And that's how you're saying the

1209
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: name ladies and gentlemen. Yes, yes, ladies and gentlemen. Um,

1210
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: this has been absolutely special. You know you know how

1211
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: I feel about you. You know I love you to pieces. Uh,

1212
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: it's families love, it's always, it's everything. Um. Now we

1213
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: we are extremely thankful. Yeah, like of course you would

1214
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 1: just look at it like these my guys, But no, no, no,

1215
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: no no, because we know how busy you are. We

1216
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: know that you had to. Yeah, when the baby's getting

1217
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: involved and you gotta make plants like that's appreciate it.

1218
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: I moved thanks around for y'all. Y'all. Ain't never not

1219
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: showed up when I called, so I'm gonna always do

1220
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: the same. Thank you for performing at my birthday party.

1221
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. He came to the trenches. That

1222
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: was a time and they sang as loud as they

1223
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: could when they're for I came off. Thank you and

1224
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: you know, you know we are. We left than the

1225
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: phone call away always. Thank y'all for always being there. Yeah,

1226
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: y'all have seen me at my worst. Y'all see me

1227
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: at my best. And y'all are always the first ones

1228
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: to call when when she hits the fan. Ye, ladies

1229
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I am Tank, I'm Jay Valentine.

1230
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: And this has been the R and B Money podcast,

1231
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: the authority on all things are in be with one

1232
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: of the colest, one of the coldest of the flyers,

1233
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: the beautiful inside and out and Money. R and B

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01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: Money is the production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,479
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1238
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