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Speaker 3: I thought you were kidding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Episode four thirty nine, Lauren Watkins. I became a

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Speaker 4: fan of Lauren threw other people I'm a fan of.

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Speaker 4: She's like such a cool singer. Didn't know her, so

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Speaker 4: what she looks like. But I swear she just got engaged,

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Speaker 4: like the day after we did this. Yeah, is that true?

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Speaker 4: As we're recording this four days ago, she got engaged?

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Speaker 3: Huh? It was it great before or right after? It

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Speaker 4: Her on and I was telling my wife how cool

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Speaker 4: I thought Lauren was because we invited her on this

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Speaker 4: but you'll hear that whole you know, back and forth,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, Laura Watkins, she's really cool.

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, well, she just got engaged

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Speaker 4: She's got two EPs, the Heartbreak and introducing Lauren Watkins.

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Speaker 4: She'll have new music out this year. But there's a

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Speaker 4: song Anybody but You that's really good. She on the

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Speaker 4: road now is Connor Smith. She's, you know, a Nashville girl,

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Speaker 4: but she didn't grow up in Nashville music. She kind

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Speaker 4: is a bit as a songwriter. But she went to

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Speaker 4: Ole miss she graduated college. She did marketing communications. I

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Speaker 4: mean she did music young and she'll talk about that.

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Speaker 4: But then she was like, you know, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: She needed to come get some of this. I don't

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Speaker 4: even know what this town is, but she's awesome. She's different,

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Speaker 4: TikTok and she will be playing the Million Dollar Show

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Speaker 4: with the Raging Idiots coming up April third. I always

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Speaker 4: the Rymand, which is super cool. We did that with Laney. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: were like Lanny Wilson and I said, I'm gonna believe

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Speaker 4: of me? Not not all right. Here she is Lauren Watkins.

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Speaker 3: Lauren, it's good to meet you.

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Speaker 4: I texted you last week and I'm going to keep

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Speaker 4: names out of it, but I've been a big fan

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Speaker 4: both as a songwriter and as an artist. When I

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Speaker 4: So like, I genuinely think she's awesome. And when somebody

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Speaker 4: So you come very highly recommended. And then I would

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Speaker 2: That's so sweet.

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Speaker 3: And he was like, what's the number. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think anything that's like a risk. It's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up here.

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Speaker 4: People that grew up in Nashville either don't have like

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Speaker 2: How did my mom? My mom grew up in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: And my dad is from Mississippi, so that's probably where

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Speaker 4: It's wild, the flexiest, richest tailgate I've ever seen, but

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Speaker 3: It because you just know that's what ole. Miss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're average person. So did you yourself got all miss?

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Speaker 3: Well that's also pretty normal.

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Speaker 3: Just have resources. There are tall buildings, and in tall

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Speaker 3: Did you do music at all? Mess at all?

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Speaker 2: I always had my guitar with me.

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Speaker 2: But I wasn't performing.

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Speaker 4: Herself, which is I like that refreshing when you came back.

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Speaker 3: Is your sister still here?

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Speaker 4: And did you feel like you had to still establish

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Speaker 1: I think we both at first, like when I came back,

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Speaker 3: Didn't want to change your name though, you don't be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no no, but some of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like I'm so do you

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Speaker 4: I thought she was just playing along with a bit,

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Speaker 2: Now what's terrible is I have a Price is Right

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I know, but I thought you were

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Speaker 4: That I was Bob Marker's son, but it was a

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Speaker 2: But your real name is Bobby Bone.

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Speaker 3: No, my real name is Bobby Estella.

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Speaker 2: And I used to I don't know if you're serious.

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Speaker 4: No, I am serious. And you Mike Voucher certificate. Well

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Speaker 4: I used to not say it, but my wife, sure

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Speaker 4: Because Bone is kind of stupid anyway, and she was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going by your stage name. So we got married.

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Speaker 4: My wife's quite independent where it's like awesome ninety three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so sure.

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Speaker 4: Her name is Caitlyn Estell and so that's her name.

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Speaker 4: People just go, oh, that's your real name, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: She said, no, no, no, because you know, eventually when we

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Speaker 3: But she's like, yeah, it is to me.

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Speaker 3: My name is Kaitlyn Estelle.

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Speaker 4: that you don't know, this calling like credit card companies,

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00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,359
Speaker 4: you say Estelle so because it's spelled that way. But

446
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,680
Speaker 4: my name is Bobby Estell, but to her it's Caitlyn Estelle.

447
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,760
Speaker 4: And I'm not Bob Barker's son. And you didn't change

448
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 4: your last name. This is for the separation. But luckily

449
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,320
Speaker 4: your name is pretty common, so people won't assume every

450
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Speaker 4: Watkins is Yeah, I mean, does do you guys still

451
00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,480
Speaker 4: bounce ideas off each other? Is there any sort of

452
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 4: competitive and that's like fun competitiveness with me?

453
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,119
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think there's healthy competitiveness, but it's also weird.

454
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hoping that we have.

455
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Speaker 1: So much success together as much success together as we

456
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Speaker 1: do outside of each other. But yeah, there's a healthy competitiveness.

457
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Speaker 4: It's fun for the first time, and I'm sure you

458
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,560
Speaker 4: are way graduated into a great mental health space that

459
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Speaker 4: I've ever been in. But for the first time, in

460
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Speaker 4: like the last year, I understood having a healthy jealousy

461
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,240
Speaker 4: and a healthy that I actually rooted for the person

462
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 4: and also was still a little jealous, but I was

463
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Speaker 4: actually very happy that they were achieving. That to me

464
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,320
Speaker 4: was tough, major breakthrough for me because I think everybody,

465
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Speaker 4: let's kill them all.

466
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Speaker 3: I'm the only one.

467
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 4: And I have to if I because if somebody else

468
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Speaker 4: has it, I can't have it, and that means I'm.

469
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Speaker 3: Not good enough.

470
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I got hey same.

471
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Speaker 4: I finally have a friend that I his named Charlemagne

472
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Speaker 4: and he works in New York but he does huge

473
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Speaker 4: things and I'm like so happy for him, but IM

474
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,280
Speaker 4: still a little bit jealous. Yeah, yeah, And it also

475
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Speaker 4: motivates me. And do you and your sister have that?

476
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Speaker 4: Does she have that towards you now?

477
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:01,960
Speaker 3: A little bit?

478
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Speaker 2: Probably? I think we probably both have a little bit

479
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 2: of it. Like it keeps you moving.

480
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Speaker 1: I mean it's the same that we have with all

481
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 1: of our other really close friends that we write together.

482
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Speaker 1: Like I think you all it just keeps you moving.

483
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: But the thing I like about and this is not

484
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 1: to be like a everybody wins answer, but I really

485
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Speaker 1: like about Nashville is it's so collaborative that you kind

486
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: of can't succeed if you're not willing to be like

487
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Speaker 1: to work with other people and be happy for them.

488
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Speaker 3: You know that part. I know people want.

489
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Speaker 2: It's hard to do.

490
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Speaker 1: It's really hard to do, but I've just kind of

491
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: had to learn that that, like, well, you really can't

492
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Speaker 1: make it here if you can't figure out how to

493
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 1: like people and and fake it route for them or a.

494
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Speaker 2: Police fake it.

495
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Speaker 3: You know.

496
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Speaker 6: Hang ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,

497
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Speaker 6: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

498
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Speaker 4: What is your perfect environment for a rite? Do you

499
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 4: like starting at nine am? Go nine to two?

500
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,719
Speaker 3: Or three? Do you like two? Three? Like, what is

501
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,479
Speaker 3: the perfect environment? On your calendar? You have a right

502
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: and it's like, this is what I like lately.

503
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Speaker 2: I like retreats, which means you leave down and yeah,

504
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: I get to get out of here.

505
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Speaker 1: That's just nice because I usually am on retreats with

506
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Speaker 1: people that I'm really close with and it's just nice.

507
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Speaker 2: There's something, so.

508
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Speaker 1: I can't really explain it, but I feel something when

509
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Speaker 1: I leave Nashville.

510
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Speaker 3: Well, all the distractions of home here.

511
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Speaker 4: Yes, So it's not there's eighty three things that you

512
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 4: could and should be doing if you're here. That's like

513
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 4: little things, yeah, errands, Yeah, but you can't do that.

514
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 1: You're fully removed from it and you're focused on one thing.

515
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Speaker 1: And like you said about the whole competitiveness, I mean

516
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: there's something to not being in one room over from

517
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: somebody who you feel competitive with, Like it just kind

518
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: of adds a stress to the building.

519
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Speaker 2: You know.

520
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Speaker 1: Whether anyone will admit that or not, it's true. It's

521
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: tough to be around people that you're working with and against,

522
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's nice to just get

523
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: away from all of it and you're not thinking about anything.

524
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Speaker 2: You're just with your people.

525
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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of connection when you're off and

526
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 4: out right, you're able to connect even with the people

527
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Speaker 4: that you're with.

528
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot more.

529
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Speaker 4: Do you like to go on these retreats for you

530
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Speaker 4: as the artist or do you go for you as

531
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Speaker 4: a writer for other artists?

532
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: What are you mostly doing?

533
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Speaker 2: I would totally do that because I just love to write.

534
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Speaker 1: But lately I've been doing them for me, like just

535
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: writing for my projects and getting songs for.

536
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Speaker 4: Me Nashville only. What's the perfect right? Give me the

537
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Speaker 4: time you like to start, and we won't say the time.

538
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Speaker 4: You can't say fifteen minutes later, but let's say it's

539
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Speaker 4: a tipical like nine to two or not, Like, give

540
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Speaker 4: me a five what five hour window would you like

541
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Speaker 4: to write?

542
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Speaker 1: I like to write at eleven, which is very, very standard,

543
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: but I like it. I don't love to get up

544
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 1: at the crack of dawn. I like to get up

545
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: at seven ish and get a good workout in before

546
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 1: and take my time showering and getting ready, and then

547
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: show up to write. And then I feel like I'm

548
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: the most clear headed.

549
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: And also.

550
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Speaker 1: Everybody is, so everybody feels so different differently about this,

551
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: which I think is interesting. But I like to have

552
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: almost a cutoff time, not a cutoff time where you

553
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: feel like you might not finish, but eleven to let's

554
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: say four, that's plenty of time to write a song.

555
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: And then after four I can do my meetings and

556
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: interviews whatever else I need to do. Some people like

557
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: to do the opposite. They like to get all that

558
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Speaker 1: out at first and then do the creative at the

559
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Speaker 1: end of the day, which I totally get that, and

560
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Speaker 1: I would actually I would think that I would be.

561
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Speaker 2: That way, But for me, it's hard. By the end

562
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Speaker 2: of the day, I'm so beat.

563
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Speaker 1: My mind is I can't I can't like like create.

564
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Speaker 4: I also have for me a deadline at times if

565
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Speaker 4: I'm a little too passive or I'm not feel I'm

566
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Speaker 4: just like I'm not feeling anything. If I have a deadline,

567
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: I at least will take something that I'm kind of

568
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: feeling and run with it. And sometimes that get traction, yeah,

569
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: and sometimes it doesn't. But I feel I'm like you

570
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: where I like to have that line. I'll schedule things

571
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: past that line that I have to be done because

572
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Speaker 4: it at least makes me commit to something and not

573
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Speaker 4: waste the full freaking day going I'm not.

574
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Speaker 3: Good enough, I'm not funny.

575
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: Yes, so what's the overthinking?

576
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 4: Because it has to otherwise you just spent a whole

577
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 4: day wasted, and you have somebody with you working and

578
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: you wasted their day too, and then.

579
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Speaker 2: You're all frustrated because you didn't get what you wanted.

580
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Speaker 4: And do you keep notes in your phone for ideas constantly?

581
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Speaker 5: Oh?

582
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? How many?

583
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Speaker 4: How many times do you go to your phone a

584
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Speaker 4: day to write something? Not a song, not a later,

585
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 4: but just an idea?

586
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question.

587
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: A few, sometimes none, and sometimes five times.

588
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: It just depends on the day.

589
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Speaker 1: But it's funny that you say that, because I've been

590
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: trying to, like my New Year's resolution kind of is

591
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: to use my phone less.

592
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Speaker 2: I have no.

593
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Speaker 3: Structure it doesn't count, though.

594
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 4: I don't think keeping organization in phone does not count

595
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: as using your phone.

596
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: Well, if you're on social media, I understand that.

597
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

598
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Speaker 1: But the reason I say that is because I thought

599
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking of ways that I could just

600
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: leave my phone and not touch it for a certain

601
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: mon time, and then I thought, ideas, what am I

602
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: going to do?

603
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: I must have it.

604
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: I can't bring a notebook with me everywhere I go.

605
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean I guess I could.

606
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: No, you can't.

607
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to do absolutely not want to.

608
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 4: Yeah I have. Do you keep yours different? Organized differently?

609
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 4: And I'll ask you why because I have, For example,

610
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: I need a look I have. I keep a list

611
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: of the lies. I just generally that's good for a

612
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 4: couple of reasons. One, I tried to not lie as

613
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Speaker 4: much if I'm embellishing a story for creative if I'm

614
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: like really entertaining, and that's a bit different. But sometimes

615
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: and the example that I've usedcause I don't really lie

616
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: that much in the past week and a half or so,

617
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Speaker 4: it's pretty great for me. And the last I was talking,

618
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 4: I said, Hey, I talked to this person. It turns

619
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Speaker 4: out I didn't talk to them. I just texted with them,

620
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, that's a lie.

621
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Speaker 3: I'm going to write it down. I hear you.

622
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: But I felt for the dynamic of the story when

623
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Speaker 4: I was like I talked to them, I felt like

624
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Speaker 4: I was misleading them a little bit.

625
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 3: So I wrote it down.

626
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Speaker 4: So I have all these I have like lies i've

627
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 4: told because I I'm trying to lie less and I

628
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: think about it more. If I know I have to

629
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: write it down. That's even if it's a lie, that

630
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. Yeah, So I have the lie list. And

631
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: then I have bits that I think are For example,

632
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: like I have this paper roxisors thing.

633
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: I don't lose paper broxisors. If I do one hundred,

634
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: I might lose two.

635
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 4: You I'm great at paper rock scisors because it's like poker.

636
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: I can read.

637
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Not going to ask to test it.

638
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like absolutely so.

639
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: And then I have a thing like Morgan runs the

640
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 4: podcast Network and it's like get this person to Morgan.

641
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: But and then I have a whole thing on bits

642
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 4: that I want to do. And then I have something

643
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: about Harry Houdini. I was reading about him. I have

644
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: one of my friends that wears a cowboy hat but

645
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: he's not a cowboy, and my thoughts on that. Then

646
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: I have a song idea when so I have all

647
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: these different do.

648
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Speaker 2: You're pretty organized structure?

649
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: I have to be, because if I'm not, there's no

650
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 4: organization whatsoever.

651
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: It's a tornado.

652
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: Okay, how do you organize yours? Or is laugh it

653
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: all down and go back because then I can't remember

654
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Speaker 4: why I wrote it down.

655
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

656
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've tried to organize.

657
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Speaker 1: I've tried to separate it by title versus line, idea

658
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: or concept, but it never sticks. I ultimately I literally

659
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: just have like right now, my my song title list

660
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: is called December Ideas. I don't know why it's called December,

661
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: it's February, but that's what.

662
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: I've been really have changed the hand and I'll.

663
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Speaker 1: Just actually like And then the one before that was

664
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Speaker 1: called like new ideas, Like I'll just come up with

665
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: a list until I get tired of it and I

666
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: don't like anything on there anymore, And then I started

667
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Speaker 1: a new one. There's no rhyme or reason but titles.

668
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: What did it take to delete something forever that you

669
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 3: never got to? Well you ever?

670
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: Finally I'm such a list guy, and I like to

671
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 4: black everything out when it's done. I like to so

672
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm very like control freak about if it's here, I

673
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: got it.

674
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: It's so why I set the deadline on time too.

675
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

676
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: I can be that way too.

677
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 4: But it's hard for me to delete something forever if

678
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: I felt like it was worthy of writing it down

679
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: at one point, will you ever just go, I'm this

680
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 4: is stupid.

681
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna get to it. Delete.

682
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've totally done that, but I've stopped doing that.

683
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: Stop doing that because Nicole is somebody who told me.

684
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: She said, never do that, because you don't know when

685
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: you might look at it on a different day and

686
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: it hits you totally differently and then you go, oh,

687
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: I got it.

688
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: And that's happened before.

689
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Also, I had this title that I thought was When

690
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: I came up with it, I thought, this is great,

691
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: somebody's totally gonna like this.

692
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: And I remember I went in to write and.

693
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: I it was a a group of writers I didn't

694
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: know that well, and I threw out the title as

695
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: an idea and they laughed at me.

696
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: I thought you were a kidding.

697
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, okay, anyway, I was just kidding, guess,

698
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: so I thought.

699
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: About, well, I guess I'm never going to write that.

700
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: Then a year later I brought it to my friends

701
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, so I got laughed at for

702
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: this idea, but I think y'all will see what I mean.

703
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: And they loved it.

704
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: We wrote the song and it's so good and it's

705
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna come out eventually. So I'm not gonna say what

706
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: it is. But if I would have deleted that, then

707
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: I never would have had what I do now, and

708
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: I thank god I didn't.

709
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you just think songs find the right people.

710
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: To be written with, Yeah, and probably a bit more

711
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: comfortable with your friends to go. I was laughed at

712
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: for this, I'd like to share it, and if you

713
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: want to laugh at me, that's okay.

714
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: My feelings much Yeah, because.

715
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: I had thrown my whole phone away, they had left

716
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: me and have been like, well, not just a little insecure,

717
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 4: I'm throwing this whole thing out of here, anybody, but

718
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: you it's all.

719
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: I love it, thank you, it's all.

720
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: Why why that one? Because it's not like you have

721
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: seventeen albums out there. You have to be very selective now,

722
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: you have to be with the music you release when

723
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: you kind of launch yourself.

724
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: Why that song?

725
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: Why did I release it?

726
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why did you select that?

727
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so college and on that EP

728
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: specifically pretty much all I was so fresh out of

729
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: college when I wrote. I think that that shows in

730
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: a cool way.

731
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

732
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: Two EPs last year.

733
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: Right, The first one was, you know, just trying to

734
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: introduce me and where I've been and what I've been through,

735
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: and that just felt so right and part of introducing me,

736
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: because I mean a big part of me is the

737
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: fact that I did the whole SEC school experience. That's

738
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: so many my life experiences came from that, you know, Whether.

739
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: I like it or not, that's that is a huge

740
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: part of me and my songwriting. And so oh do

741
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: not like it, right, Not that.

742
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it, but just that that's such a

743
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: small part of life, Like that's such a short period

744
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: of time. But truth is so my like huge heartbreak

745
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: or just life memories came from that.

746
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.

747
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I still love it. I still love it.

748
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: I'm big SEC. I've been doing it for forever.

749
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

750
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: It's my favorite thing in the whole world, like we're

751
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: going to raise my games tomorrow, you Knowville.

752
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, You're like it's a small part. I feel

753
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: like I lose it.

754
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: I'm on my phone out the room now because you're

755
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: like I did my four years and I'm not.

756
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I haven't.

757
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't mean all.

758
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean like I'm still like I'm I'm so fresh

759
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: out of that like that. I mean that was only

760
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: two three years ago. And to me, it's like these

761
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: dramatic years.

762
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: Which did you live in the dorm at first?

763
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

764
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody not stay in the se outgrow the dorm quick.

765
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: But for me, that's where I met even my friends

766
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: I have today me too.

767
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: What was a dorm like for you?

768
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: It was fun?

769
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: It was your co ed no is.

770
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: We had basically two the ones that I lived in.

771
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: It was one building of girls and one building of guys.

772
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: And they were neighbors, so they like connected at the bottom.

773
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: It's like when you'd come home, like you'd run into

774
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: people in the lobby, but like up in the room.

775
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: Because they go up to the rooms were they supposed to.

776
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that they could like during

777
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: the day, but there was like an hour there was

778
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: there were hours for it.

779
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: We couldn't not name they could. I never had a girl. Yeah,

780
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 3: I think girls knew I lived in that dorm when

781
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: they stayed away from the whole building.

782
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: Yes, it was like North and North Magnet where it

783
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: was like pushed them away.

784
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: How long were you in the dorm?

785
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Just a year, just freshman year.

786
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: And then and then I moved into kind of these

787
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: little condos. There were really a bunch of townhouses where

788
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I was in a sorority.

789
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: And so this is an ole Miss.

790
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is everywhere, but Ole Miss

791
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: does this thing where they like sorority will kind of

792
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: not buy but like get a deal with like a

793
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: like a condo complex or an apartment. And so all

794
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: the girls in that year, like this year it was

795
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: our sophomore year, we all lived in these condos together.

796
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: So I was living with girls in my sorority, which

797
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: was really fun.

798
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 6: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

799
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 6: Bobby cast.

800
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: I wrote in my first book. But how I got

801
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: to Nashville.

802
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: I was a little out of control for a while,

803
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: not partying, but I just never had access to anything.

804
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, not drugs not not

805
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: not coke, not not that.

806
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm following, but.

807
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: Just like, okay, girls, I'll just say it.

808
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can be honest.

809
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: And I never had nobody.

810
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: But when I got here there, I had a like

811
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 4: two years that I finally I was just like, man,

812
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: I don't I went hard.

813
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm done.

814
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: Was school like that? Do you was all mess like

816
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: that for you? Or did move into Nashville? Are you

817
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: doing that now?

818
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I was definitely also very sheltered

819
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: in high school, like I had seen nothing. So when

820
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I got to college, it was such a culture shock.

821
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: And so I definitely had fun in college, but I

822
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: wasn't like I just I had fun all four years.

823
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: We'll just say that, like I really said it enough

824
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: right there?

825
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: I did.

826
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so then when I came like I've been

827
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: back home for what two years now? I guess ish,

828
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know whenever twenty twenty one was is when

829
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I moved back.

830
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: All years are now void because I don't know what's whatever.

831
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

832
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: But now like I kind of I kind of got

833
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: the partying out of my system and I'm slowing down now.

834
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I spent all the money on going on lots

835
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: of dates and I'm done too. Yeah, never thought I

836
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: was gonna get married. I met my wife, And.

837
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: When did y'all get married?

838
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: Two years?

839
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: So it's been years.

840
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: Well, we wanted to celebrate you moving back to Nashville

841
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: by getting married.

842
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: Totally right around I could feel it. Yeah, it was

843
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: right around that time.

844
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: I was reading an article about you and they have

845
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: said something about you.

846
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: It was a weird term. It was called like barstool chice.

847
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking of, and I think of it.

848
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: It was the barstool charm.

849
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: That's what it was. You had a barstool charm, and

850
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know whether.

851
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. If you're gonna ask, I.

852
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 4: Don't know what it means either, And I could look

853
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: at it and both ways, I think barstool charm. Barstool

854
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: would mean one of us normal, yeah, cool related, but

855
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: it also yes, it also.

856
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Means more of that.

857
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: What did you did you read that? Have you seen

858
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: people call you that? Oh?

859
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: No, no, I've seen it.

860
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: So what did you take that as?

861
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have said bartol charm, but I didn't know you.

862
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: I still wouldn't say barstool.

863
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of my songs are set in

864
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: a bar, and maybe I'm able to make it seem

865
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: more charming than it really is.

866
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: That's how I took it.

867
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: Good for you.

868
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: I kind of I romanticized.

869
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: I would have found that super negative anything about me

870
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: I turned super negative.

871
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: Good for me.

872
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: I was like, how can this be a good thing?

873
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: Well, you're like the heartbreak for example, that is not

874
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: a positive thing. And that's the whole the name of

875
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: the whole product, the project there that you got to

876
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: be pretty vulnerable to even talk about heartbreak and did

877
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: a second ago?

878
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: How hard? How easy was that?

879
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: And then especially if people know you're singing about them,

880
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: like how wait say that again?

881
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: Is multi layered? Yeah?

882
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 4: Hold on, if you're the whole song about having heartbreak

883
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 4: in general, or you have you have a project, it's

884
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: called heartbreak, That heartbreak had to come from root. Yes,

885
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 4: So first of all you have to talk about it,

886
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: and that that is like here I'm gonna open my

887
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: ribs up. Here's a vulnerable Yeah. But then it's the

888
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: person that maybe broke your heart also getting to do

889
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 4: a victory lap because I get to hear you singing

890
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: about it like that. To me, my ego wouldn't allow that.

891
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: No, I get that.

892
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, those are all thoughts that crossed my

893
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: mind at some point, but just kind of went in

894
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: one of the other because I'm just like, whatever, right,

895
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: these are things I got to get off my chest.

896
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: And Yeah, but I also the songs are probably about

897
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: lots of different people, not just one.

898
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I completely agree with there's a lot of different people.

899
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: Then there's like she wrote, lots of people doing or

900
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: they're wrong and they think it's about it's not and

901
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: they're telling them.

902
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: I kind of like that though, because it's sort of like,

903
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of funny if they think

904
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: it's about them and it's really not.

905
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: See, I would be so, why do you think that's

906
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: about you? That's why I wouldn't be good. No, there's

907
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: a lot of reason I wouldn't be good a songwriting.

908
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 4: But that's the part where I would really struggle, was

909
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: like to give somebody else like a little bit of

910
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: shine where they were.

911
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: No.

912
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I totally get that, and you know, I guess what

913
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I'll say to that is my songs are for They're

914
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: more for the people that i'm singing too, rather than

915
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: people i'm singing about. So those people can think whatever

916
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: they think. M m, but I just try not to

917
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: care about it.

918
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: Have you written anything ever and then someone heard it

919
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: and you guys weren't good and they heard it, they

920
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: were like, you know what that spoke to me?

921
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: And then you were good again.

922
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh like a guy.

923
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: Sure it could be a it could even be a friend. Okay,

924
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: like like some dude.

925
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: I've definitely burned bridge. Yes, if there was a bridge left,

926
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: it was burned with the songs.

927
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: But you didn't burn it so bad. It kind of

928
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: rebuilt itself. No, yeah, good for you, I don't think

929
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 3: so good for you.

930
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: What's the most unexpected place that you've played, Like, difficult

931
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: to play because you people weren't even really paying attention.

932
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's happened so many times. You know,

933
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something that could be controversial. Nashville is

934
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: tough to play.

935
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: Oh hey, this is going to really be controversial. I'll

936
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: get a lot of hits on that one. Yes, I mean, I.

937
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Know you can probably like understand that's sucks to play.

938
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: It sucks.

939
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: I'll see.

940
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: I hate playing shows here because I'm gonna say a

941
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: bunch of mean stuff, so then it doesn't make you

942
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: look at it.

943
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll cover for you, but then you follow me.

944
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: I hate playing shows, and that I love the people

945
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: that live in Nashville are that come to my shows.

946
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: I hate planning shows in Nashville because there are two

947
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: things that happen. One there's this like, all right, impressing

948
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: me expectation because I don't perform it all. I'm on

949
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 4: the road all the time if I'm doing stand up,

950
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: and so if I'm finally doing a show here, it's

951
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: people that just like see pictures on it and they're like, okay,

952
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: well let's see how good you really are.

953
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that vibe exists. First of all, there are peers.

954
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 4: That finally want to come out and go like, all right,

955
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: well let's see what you got that competitive yes, and

956
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: then you want to hear something back from it, and then

957
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: it starts to be unhealthy. And then it's also like

958
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: ten hour meet and greets with everybody who you know

959
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: and that live here that want to come and see.

960
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: So Nashville is the worst place to I love Nashville

961
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: and the people, but for the industry, it's hard because

962
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 4: it's not just going to do a show for people

963
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: that want to be entertained. It's also going to do

964
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: a show for people that want you to prove your

965
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 4: worth of crap and worth.

966
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that to me is why it's hard for me. Here.

967
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: You've said it best.

968
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I literally that's everything I'm thinking you just said.

969
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: And it's a shame.

970
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Like it hurts me as a native because I mean

971
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, like I said, I had

972
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: no like foot in the industry. I didn't know that

973
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: even existed. So when I was going to concerts, I

974
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: was in the front row screaming my head off, not

975
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: caring about who was there or whatever. I just wanted

976
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: to be there. And yeah, it's tough. Now it does

977
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: feel like everything you just said, it's a lot of

978
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: people just try to be too cool.

979
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: And the thing is.

980
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: That people this is funny, like the people who matter,

981
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: and by matter, I just mean like like kind of

982
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: the big shots in the industry, like people who are

983
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: really like I don't know if the people that you

984
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: want to impress, they're not really trying to be too cool.

985
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: They're just they're doing their job, like like there to

986
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: cheer you on.

987
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: But it's the people that are like insecure.

988
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm insecure, and I say that from an

989
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: insecure place. I'm not insecure in that way, yeah, but

990
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: I'm too. It's definitely a place of if somebody else

991
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 4: roots for you, or somebody else says why you're really good,

992
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: that must mean to them that they're not.

993
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: I struggle with the same thing, but in different ways.

994
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: Oh same, So there are probably peers of yours or

995
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: any artists. It's at a show and it's a little

996
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: bit jealous, but can't be healthy about it.

997
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: It's hard.

998
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: It's hard. And I also think people like even as simple.

999
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: As yelling out during the show, yelling and screaming, cheering,

1000
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: people don't want to do They're scared people are looking

1001
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: at them. Oh who's in the room, Who's going to

1002
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: see me look stupid? Yeah, And I a lot of

1003
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: my songwriter friends and I love to protest against that.

1004
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: And we'll go to our friend shows in town and

1005
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: just be the biggest fans because that's what you want.

1006
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you work so hard, you're on the road

1007
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: and and and you then you get so excited to

1008
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: come home and play a show for your your people,

1009
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: and then it's like that and.

1010
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: It's sort of sad.

1011
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: My one of my best friends is Brett Eldridge. We're

1012
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: like best best friends. And again this is a two

1013
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: part story. We don't get to see each other perform.

1014
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on the road. That's it. That's something never.

1015
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: Do we get to seach. And so like one time

1016
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: in the past two or three years, he came to

1017
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: one of my shows. Because otherwise, if I'm here, it's

1018
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: like one weekend day a year, and it has the

1019
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: time just right.

1020
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 3: So he came to one of my my shows.

1021
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 4: And then he does his Christmas shows at the Rhymen,

1022
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: and so I went to the Rhyman to watch. I

1023
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 4: gave him like nine standing ovations and people were looking.

1024
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: At me like, what are you doing.

1025
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh, well, he deserves it.

1026
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: I would stand, but I would get other people to

1027
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: come up. Yeah.

1028
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: And there was a point where I felt like he

1029
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: looked at it. He's like, I get a dude, Yeah,

1030
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: I get it. I gave him, I gave him some

1031
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: solid but I was I just thought it was so

1032
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: cool and my wife for you for doing that, Yeah,

1033
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: because some people don't. We were sitting there with a

1034
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: bunch of people in the industry, and then if you're

1035
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 4: in any other city people we'd be going nuts, maybe

1036
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: going crazy. My wife had we had been hanging out

1037
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: with brutt you know, once a week, twice a week

1038
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 4: for three or four years, very close.

1039
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: My wife had never seen it before.

1040
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: Really.

1041
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew his music fine, but yeah, never seen

1042
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: him sing in real life.

1043
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: For a birthday every year, he'll.

1044
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: Sing at dinner he does, like Oklahom song from Oklahoma

1045
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 4: or whatever.

1046
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: But she'd never seen him.

1047
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: And my wife's funny and she she will cut you,

1048
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: but she'll be honest. You know, she's always gonna be

1049
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: It reminds me of you a little bit too, just

1050
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 4: how I feel like your music is like I feel

1051
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 4: like when you're singing and you have a message, like

1052
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: you're being honest about it, even if it's uncomfortable. Yeah,

1053
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: And my wife is like that. And so she was like,

1054
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: I hope this does not feel douchey, And I'm like,

1055
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: what do you mean.

1056
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: She goes, I've never seen him sing.

1057
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 4: I only know him as this kind of if he

1058
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: comes out and it's duche, I don't know I'm going

1059
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: to do because she'll tell me sometimes that joke wasn't

1060
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: good or that, And so he comes out for and

1061
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: I'm watching her and then she starts crying and she's like,

1062
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: this is so good.

1063
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: I did She was like, I did not.

1064
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know that version, but she was like so

1065
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 4: happy and proud for him because she saw him in

1066
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: a different like his element, Like you said, so what

1067
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: you're pulled to do?

1068
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1069
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: But then even she was like, man, these people should

1070
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: be going a little crazier for you than they are.

1071
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the town. It's a bunch of it.

1072
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: It's just the too cool.

1073
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: It's people being too cool. But I just try not

1074
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: to let it. It gets to me, but I try

1075
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: not to let it because then I don't want it

1076
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: to affect the show.

1077
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: I get too tight too.

1078
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: If I'm like trying to impress people that I think

1079
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: I should impress, I'm not as good me either. If

1080
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm so focused on being perfect, I'm not I'm not

1081
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 4: gonna be great me too, because I'm so dialed in.

1082
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: I got to do it just right to be perfect.

1083
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: And then there's no spaonity, there's no freedom minutes. Yeah,

1084
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 4: how many shows? Because I know you did the Morgan walling,

1085
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: that's that's massive, by the way, it's like huge.

1086
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how I got there.

1087
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: Well, no, I could guess how you got there, because like,

1088
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: you're really your music's great. As a songwriter, you're great.

1089
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: You guys have it's just awesome. I think you deserved

1090
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: it for sure. And when I saw it announced, I

1091
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: was like, that's awesome. I would I don't know her.

1092
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: But.

1093
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: That is such a big That setting.

1094
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Is large, totally different.

1095
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: I feel like.

1096
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: There's not really been a middle middle ground for like

1097
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: you've played shows, but now it's like, we're gonna go

1098
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: do some some stadium.

1099
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I am. I'm so excited, but I'm so nervous.

1100
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, I mean, and yeah, it's just totally

1101
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: different than what I'm used to. It's funny because I

1102
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: played a couple of shows with them last year in arenas,

1103
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: which you know, not stadium but still.

1104
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: Huge, massive, But that's a huge jump, right, because that's

1105
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: the major leagues.

1106
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: Yes, because if there, I I just like, I think

1107
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: the biggest The biggest thing I noticed that was different

1108
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: was I've been playing clubs right now, so you know,

1109
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: smaller rooms, but they're packed and people are right up

1110
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: on the stage, they're literally you could you can reach

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00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: out and touch them sometimes so they'll hand you your

1112
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: their cell phone get you to take a picture. But

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00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: with arenas or stadiums, it's you're there's a level of separation,

1114
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: and those guys that do it all the time, I

1115
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: don't know how I think that. I guess you just

1116
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: have to learn how to kind of how to still

1117
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: connect when you're separated.

1118
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: But I'm so new, I don't know I'm learning there.

1119
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: The bigger we were in Tallahassee yesterday.

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Speaker 4: We were doing a sports show that I do, and

1121
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 4: we were shooting some footage with a Florid State basketball team.

1122
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: But we had been Eddie and I, my friend and

1123
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: my comedy music partner. We had played the Florida State

1124
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: football stadium like four years prior before COVID, and it

1125
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: was super cool for us, and it was really large,

1126
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 4: and I remember I ran around way too much because

1127
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: I thought, since it's big, I need to run every

1128
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Speaker 4: futilize and I was out of breath the whole time,

1129
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking this is not I don't need

1130
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: to go touch everybody, literally, But I really struggled with

1131
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: the largest because I feel like I need to do

1132
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: more to be larger.

1133
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: And it was the exact opposite.

1134
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: And I probably was terrible because I couldn't breathe the

1135
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: whole time because I thought I'll just run and have

1136
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: all this energy to equal the size of the place.

1137
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 4: And then another thing was I would get distracted because

1138
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: if a place that big, everybody's not going to be

1139
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: paying attention.

1140
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and especially with comedy like that would be tough.

1141
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: To I mean, we're doing music comedy there. When I

1142
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 3: do stand up, it's different.

1143
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: I don't only make it out their seat, but music

1144
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 4: we're playing football stadium and people are going to get

1145
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: beers and stuff, and I'm insulted.

1146
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: No, I totally get it, but I shouldn't be insulted.

1147
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: That's part of the.

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00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: It's part of the thing. But I get it. I

1149
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: get it.

1150
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: I will say with with a.

1151
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: With a room that big, it's harder to notice people

1152
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: leaving and moving around like this.

1153
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: The opposite.

1154
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: You notice in a small room there's only like a

1155
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: club or a small theater, like I have everybody in

1156
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: my vision, right, you.

1157
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Kind of focus on the Yeah, well, nobody.

1158
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: Can do anything that's so small. I see anybody on

1159
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: the room I look around at you. People do not

1160
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: try to find people leaving so I could be sad. Yeah,

1161
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: I think that's what I do. I hunt sadness, so

1162
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: I try to find Oh, yeah, I get it. I

1163
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 4: was talking with Kip Moore once, not on air or anything,

1164
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: and he was like, how do you And I'm not

1165
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: the guy to ask, but he's like, how do you

1166
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 4: deal with if people don't laugh or seats are empty?

1167
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: And I'm like, not, well, like not at all? And

1168
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: he said, well, what do you do?

1169
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: Because he got really mad because some guy wouldn't look

1170
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: up when he was playing a show, or like wouldn't

1171
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: get off his phone. And I don't know if you

1172
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: know a Kip at all, but keeps a very emotional guy.

1173
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: And Kevin I definitely had our run iNTS early in

1174
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: my career here, but then we kind of got each

1175
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: other and now we're great.

1176
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 4: And I said, sometimes there's people that look like they're

1178
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: enjoying it the least are the ones that actually are

1179
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: loving it the most. We don't all react the same

1180
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: way with two things we enjoy. And I said, I'll

1181
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: look at people's four heads to because I don't want

1182
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: to see people laughing or not laughing because I don't

1183
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: want to judge how I'm doing based on their mouth,

1184
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 4: because I don't laugh when i'm watching it. If something's funny,

1185
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, that is funny, or you're kind of like

1186
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: but and I think it's really funny. But I'm not

1187
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: slapping my leg. But yet I expect everybody to slap

1188
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: their leg.

1189
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great point.

1190
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: So I look at four heads and I kept like.

1191
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: Two weeks later, he's like, hey, man, I just did

1192
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: a show somewhere, and he goes, this dude would not

1193
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: look up. He looked like he was having a miserable time.

1194
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 4: He said, did this dude end up coming back after

1195
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: the show? And I was like, why would you want?

1196
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: He's like, man, I almost cried.

1197
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: It was so good.

1198
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: And the guy that really mad at because he wasn't

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Speaker 4: paying attention.

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00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 3: He was, he was just doing it in a way.

1201
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: That was how he communicated.

1202
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right. That's I probably should think about

1203
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: that more because I'm the same. Like for me, it's

1204
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: like I want people to cheer after the first chorus.

1205
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: It's like when you hear the hook or the first time,

1206
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: like I want cheering and when I don't get it.

1207
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm terrible and I.

1208
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: You're so right.

1209
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: People some people just they show it differently. And I

1210
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: remember one time I was playing I don't remember where,

1211
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: somewhere in Georgia, but it was this tiny, tiny crowd.

1212
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: There was barely anybody there, and that's awkward, Like it's

1213
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: tough to play.

1214
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: When there's nobody there. You don't you don't, it's it's.

1215
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: Too much connection, too much.

1216
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: You don't want to freak people out.

1217
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: And where do you look because if you look at

1218
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: any one person and there's and then you end.

1219
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Up accidentally looking at them the whole show because you

1220
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: just feel like, Okay.

1221
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: I've got someone, and then I have to like tell

1222
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: them I'm.

1223
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: Sorry for being creepy.

1224
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: But there was one at this show. I was this

1225
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: one guy like this like big dude. He was like

1226
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: probably in his in his fifties, Like he looked like

1227
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: a dad, and he's like this big old guy, and

1228
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, he was sitting down the whole time, and

1229
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: after like a chorus or after a song, I like

1230
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: saw him go like he like nodded in approval, and

1231
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: that was like that was the best thing to me, because.

1232
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: That something about like a big guy not showing.

1233
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: A marketing somebody that shouldn't be convinced.

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00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I felt so, and then the rest of the

1235
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: show was like that is all that I wanted.

1236
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1237
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: Uh, your sets when you go out and you're so

1238
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: you'll be with Morgan?

1239
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: Who else is on that? On your show? Who's doing

1240
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: that like that?

1241
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different there's a lot who's.

1242
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: After they changing that up to.

1243
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be for most of my shows, it's me,

1244
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Nate Smith and Bailey and then Ernest sprinkled into some of.

1245
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Those is always sprinkled in ye.

1246
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for me, that's the main lineup for my shows,

1247
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: other than like a few exceptions.

1248
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 4: And how will you will you played thirty How how

1249
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: long do you play usually on those Morgan.

1250
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: Shows's gonna been twenty five and thirty minutes.

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00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good per I mean, that's that's a

1252
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: good amount of time for Affert. I know obviously you

1253
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 4: want to go into an hour and you do your

1254
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: own club shows. I'm sure you do eighty minutes whatever

1255
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: it is. Yeah, how do you decide what you're going

1256
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: to do in the super efficient set?

1257
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's really hard because I it's like I'm

1258
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: when I play with my band, I love to, like

1259
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: you said, I love to play an hour, even forty

1260
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: five minutes, But when you're in an arena that size

1261
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: and nobody knows me yet, I want to be digestible.

1262
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: You don't want to go.

1263
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: It was the perfect amount of time where people still care,

1264
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: and then you go over that and it's like, all right,

1265
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: who's next, like we've we got it, and so I

1266
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: don't know.

1267
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: I try to.

1268
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the songs that are streaming the best,

1269
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: I'll definitely do the songs I know people have heard

1270
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: and that like have they've been reacting to the best,

1271
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: But I want to sprinkle in a couple new ones,

1272
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: so it'll probably be like, I mean, twenty five minutes

1273
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: for me is maybe six songs.

1274
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: The good thing about the new songs of if you're

1275
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: an artist that most people aren't familiar with yet is

1276
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 4: they don't know the difference in new and yeah exactly.

1277
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 4: But if you're like an artist that has and you're

1278
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: throwing new ones in, that's hard.

1279
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: That's when it sucks.

1280
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can I can get away with sprinkling one.

1281
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: Or two because you want to always do new music. Yeah,

1282
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: but I think Garth is the best I've ever seen

1283
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: do that where he might play one, but he also

1284
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: has to hit It's Garth's not the same as anybody else. Yeah, however,

1285
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 4: but he just knows people came to hear the songs

1286
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 4: that they know for the most part. Yeah, it's true,

1287
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 4: and there's very few Like if John Mayer plays new stuff,

1288
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: I usually like it because I'm just such a big

1289
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 4: John Mayer.

1290
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: His fans are that he has that kind of crowd

1291
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: where they are hanging on every word they want to.

1292
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: Or Casey if I would love to do anything new

1293
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: from her and if.

1294
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: She's doing like a song, that's But most artists, if

1295
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: I'm just a semi fan, they do new stuff like

1296
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: uh get bored.

1297
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just a fact. Yes, it's true.

1298
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: What do you start with?

1299
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: Start with Fine County Line?

1300
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: And then is that every show or we switch it

1301
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 3: every show?

1302
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: Typically every show start with that?

1303
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: Why why that one?

1304
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: It just has good energy and it's out people have

1305
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 2: you know heard it by chance? So just has good energy.

1306
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: It's like a fun song to start with, and it

1307
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: gets my band loves like we just get it gets

1308
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: us in a good place.

1309
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1310
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Bobby cast.

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00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: Who's been with you the longest of your band?

1312
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: The longest is my guitar, Wade?

1313
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: And how long has Weade been with you?

1314
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: A little over a year.

1315
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: Oh, that's fifty percent of your time here to go back,

1316
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: I would.

1317
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: Say that, yeah, No, he's he's been my tried and true.

1318
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah awesome.

1319
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: Does he handle the awkward stuff for you? If it's

1320
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: an issue with somebody that he goes and.

1321
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: Takes care of it? You mean likes of the band? No?

1322
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 5: Like?

1323
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: Oh I too.

1324
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 4: If the drummer's fighting with the basis this is a hypothetical,

1325
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: who handles it?

1326
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I'll be honest. My band they

1327
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: love each other for now, they do yes for now.

1328
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: But even people that love each other get in fight.

1329
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: I would say the mediator would probably be my bass player.

1330
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: He's very even keel, he's cool.

1331
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: I could, I don't.

1332
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: He'd probably be the mediator.

1333
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 4: I have tour manager or Eddie. Hey man, I don't

1334
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 4: want to go fight with him. I need you to

1335
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: go yes at this point, And also, like I only

1336
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: have so much.

1337
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: Energy exactly do you need to be creative and be

1338
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: able to.

1339
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: I say that I could, I could do it, but

1340
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it.

1341
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't have much energy for it

1342
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: anymore either.

1343
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: Do you know what would be fine? I don't know. Morgan?

1344
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: We should Morgan, you met Morgan earlier.

1345
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: If your town on April thirty, should come to the

1346
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: Rhyman and play a couple of songs in our We

1347
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: do a show once a year, a million dollars show.

1348
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: We haven't really announce wh's lineup get announced? Okay, so

1349
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 4: it'll be already announced by this okay, So Nate Smith,

1350
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: Sam Hunt, John Party, go ahead, Morgan, who Ian Munsick?

1351
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: Go ahead? Edwin McCain from like the nineties. Nah, it

1352
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: will be your crying shoulder, you know.

1353
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1354
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: I do, Ben Rector, Matt Carny, Matt Harney. So who else? Oh?

1355
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: Meghan Maroney?

1356
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: What a lineup?

1357
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1358
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 4: I inspired all them to be who they are, So

1359
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: they come out and we do. My band and my

1360
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: band Eddie and I are the two. But we have

1361
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: basically awesome session players because we do so few shows

1362
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: as a full band. Yeah, but every year we do

1363
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: this big show for Saint Jude. If you're in town

1364
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: and don't commit yes or no here because I'll think

1365
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: it's we're just doing a bit anyway, So I will

1366
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: not allow you to commit. I'm just gonna text a

1367
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: Cale because she text.

1368
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: Me a minute to go.

1369
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 4: It's be like, hey, I invited Laura to play a

1370
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: million dollar show. If she wants to come and do

1371
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 4: a couple of songs, you are invited to come and

1372
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: play a couple of songs in the rym and it'll

1373
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: be sold out.

1374
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: My gosh, I've never played the rhyme before.

1375
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: That's great.

1376
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: That would I'm not letting you commit or say no,

1377
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm not even be in town.

1378
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: Let me say, let me no. I don't even want

1379
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: to hear that. You have our tour calendar.

1380
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: Website.

1381
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: Oh I was gonna, oh no, where is it in Indianapolis.

1382
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: The next night though, Yeah, that's what we drove the indie.

1383
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: I don't know me we can.

1384
00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: Make this world on.

1385
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 4: Let me let me text Nicole because she like she

1386
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: literally just text me. I know she's not the person,

1387
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 4: but I just want to put it on her. No,

1388
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: she yeah, no, Radar, because this is not a bit

1389
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: it's my point. This is not a bit. Anything I

1390
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: do out of this circle is not a bit.

1391
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm honored that you would ask me about.

1392
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 4: Hey, Nicole, I'm sitting here and we're talking about life,

1393
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 4: and you know, you.

1394
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: Know how I do. And Lauren and I we're about

1395
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: to finish. We've done in an hour.

1396
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: And I invited Lauren to play the million Dollar Show

1397
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 4: this year with us at the Ryman on April third.

1398
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: I told her she can't say yes or no to

1399
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: me right now because we're recording, and I feel like

1400
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: it was a bit regardless of what she said, So

1401
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave this with you. I'm recording this too.

1402
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: By the way, that's there she is. That's the real Lauren.

1403
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: And I know she has a show with Morgan on

1404
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: the fourth, but it's April third, and the million Dollar

1405
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: Show this year is Megan Maroney, Sam Hunt, John Party Carney,

1406
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 4: director Nate Smith, Ian mun Sick.

1407
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 3: I don't know if you get anybody, but I don't know.

1408
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: We would love, we would love for Lauren to come

1409
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: come and play two songs with us, So you guys

1410
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: can have that talk and let me down easy if

1411
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: she can't. Although Indianapolis is not Hawaii. It's not that far.

1412
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: But okay, cool, all right, thanks by all right.

1413
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm not gonna say anything.

1414
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: But send it over. We can call her afterward.

1415
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: But I just don't want you to be like yeah,

1416
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: then you're like I had to say yeah. It's like

1417
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: when someone got when someone.

1418
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: Get from pressured in saying yes.

1419
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like the kiss cam. You don't want to

1420
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: be kiss cam.

1421
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: We're like, I got to kiss the dude I'm sitting

1422
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: next to because the kiss cam put it on.

1423
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: You're like, it's a pity kid. Yes, well listen if

1424
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: I if I can make.

1425
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: That work, I would love to do that.

1426
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for it, seriously, thank you that that would

1427
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: be that would be so awesome.

1428
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: So if she says yes, though, soon we have to

1429
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: add her to the page.

1430
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 4: We we just built the image. We just built the image. Yeah, no,

1431
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 4: rush though.

1432
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: What's the what's kind of the structure of the show?

1433
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: Is it? Like?

1434
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: Look, so what am I.

1435
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: Going to get into it?

1436
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 3: Just whatever you want? The structure? That's Mike Quirk. Yeah, Morgan,

1437
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: can you hop on Mike the structure?

1438
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's out of my curiosity that works.

1439
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: Can we have so have full band on the rheman

1440
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 4: and the band never leaves, but it's like a seven

1441
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: or eight piece band.

1442
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: Morgan, we go.

1443
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: Ahead, Oh, Mike doesn't work now okay, now it's on.

1444
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 4: Now it's off, Now it's on.

1445
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 5: Okay. When we make the ask two different artists, we say, hey,

1446
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 5: we're going to have you come play two to three

1447
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: songs with our house band, the Raging Idiots. They can

1448
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 5: play either boat songs or one song. You could play

1449
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 5: so loo acoustic on one, but it's pretty lightlifting.

1450
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: And then we'll have a.

1451
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: Rehearsal day that you could show up to if you

1452
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: want to.

1453
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 4: But the band is so good, we don't. We don't

1454
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: even deserve them. The band is so good, they've been

1455
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 4: so loyal. It's Brett's drummer. It's Ryan Medora, who's like

1456
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: rights for Bassis magazine.

1457
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: It's like a really great group.

1458
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: Well that's awesome.

1459
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 4: You're more than well in our band. You just slide

1460
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: in and out. It's this instant changed my first time

1461
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: at the Rhymn. It's still Bret's rummer the year or

1462
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: do we change it?

1463
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 5: No, same drummer.

1464
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 4: Well, listen this is awesome. It's really cool to finally

1465
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: meet you in person. Like I said, I've been a

1466
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: big fan of your just how you do your music.

1467
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: And I was talking, I was actually talking, oh like that.

1468
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 4: I was actually talking with a friend of mine about you,

1469
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: and he was going through people and was like, what

1470
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 4: about this person? And this is after I'd said your name.

1471
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: He just wanted to run people by me as well.

1472
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 4: And I said, I think the difference in Lauren and

1473
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 4: the two or three people he named, and all were great.

1474
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: So the difference is I had to invest a bunch

1475
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: of time with them to realize, yeah, I like them,

1476
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: but I'd have to invest that much time with you

1477
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 4: because I felt like your voice, not just your singing voice,

1478
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: but like your voice, who you are, what you're, what

1479
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: you're saying felt so authentic and a bit edgy that

1480
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: it felt so real that I just knew I liked

1481
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 4: your sound and what you were saying immediately.

1482
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, or I would have known I didn't like it.

1483
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: But I think that's where it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1484
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: is this not being out?

1485
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you?

1486
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: That is.

1487
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, that's the biggest compliment to me. That

1488
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: is that is really really sweet.

1489
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't recommend you to a friend if I

1490
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: didn't think you're awesome totally.

1491
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know you mean that and you're you're

1492
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: so genuine and I really like I'm a fan of

1493
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: yours too, So, like we were.

1494
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: Saying earlier, say that, and I don't believe that. This

1495
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: is a bit, this is a bit. Don't do the bit.

1496
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear the bit. I don't want

1497
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: to hear this bit.

1498
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 4: I was going to make a great point, but go

1499
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: ahead and make a great point, but not about me, because.

1500
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: I won't believe.

1501
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well, I was going to say, like earlier,

1502
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: we were talking about like being in Nashville and when

1503
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: somebody who you have been a fan like approves of

1504
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: you and says, hey, I believe in you, Like that's

1505
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: so cool, and I mean, you're one of those people

1506
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: for me, Like there's so many which I'm sure you've

1507
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: felt that too, with other people, like where somebody approves

1508
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: of you.

1509
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: Only one, a new artist named Eric Church, and I

1510
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 4: believe done it from the beginning. He was the only

1511
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 4: one that I know. But yes, I think this You're

1512
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: going to be here for a long time. Being very successful,

1513
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: and mostly because the way you did it. I hope

1514
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: you're right, because some people, if they wanted you to

1515
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: be a flash and a splash, they could have already

1516
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: had that with you. They could have they could have

1517
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: done a cliche.

1518
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.

1519
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I feel even if it's a slow build,

1520
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: I want it to be lasting.

1521
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 4: That's the key. And I think it's going to be

1522
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: so lasting because I think you're so good. So I

1523
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: really appreciate you coming in. Thank you at Lauren dot

1524
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 4: Watkins is Instagram and TikTok's Laura Watkins On TikTok, I

1525
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: think it's all is there A on it or nor?

1526
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: No, it's Laura under I don't know. I think it's

1527
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: a No, it's just Laura l a you are.

1528
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: But the Instagram has a Yeah, well Instagram is Lauren

1529
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: dot Watkins.

1530
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: And the it's Laura dot Watkins. Yeah, you can get

1531
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: the A on the TikTok. No, people just call me Laura,

1532
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 4: but then why not do Lauren Instagram.

1533
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, you need to go question all your people.

1534
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: I don't have a real hard time.

1535
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: I try not to think too hard about social media

1536
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: but sometimes it can.

1537
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 4: Be Well, get on your phone more. That's my resolution

1538
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 4: for yous to be on your phone more.

1539
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: I screw my resolution.

1540
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: He mike thing for Lauren. That was awesome. There you

1541
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: go yay.

1542
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: No, No, she say yes, and I'm not making her

1543
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 4: feel pressure to say yes, but it would be really cool.

1544
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: Do you want to? You want to see art work

1545
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: for it and then we'll yeah.

1546
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: Well also that.

1547
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: No, we're still going yeah, so that's all the net

1548
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: people's names are behind us, and don't judge by your name.

1549
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 3: But no, I love it. It's our seventh one.

1550
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: That's us.

1551
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 4: So we'll add your name to it if you say yes.

1552
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: But if you don't, that's okay. Well we'll delete this

1553
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: whole episode.

1554
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: What what we're gonna do? You want to say it

1555
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: after we're off?

1556
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't. Well, it's just about I could

1557
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: go to that because we're taking.

1558
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: I said, don't say yes.

1559
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: I know even if you said it when we turned

1560
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: the MIC's off, it doesn't count because it's still in.

1561
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: This Okay, yes, so I'm shutting.

1562
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: We're done. We're done, over and out, over and out.

1563
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: Great to meet you. Great, I'll see you around for

1564
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: a long time.

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01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: It's really awesome, all right, Lauren dot Watkins on Instagram,

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: lar dot Watkins on TikTok all right, there she is.

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 6: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production