WEBVTT - It's A Bloodbath Out There with Hilary Knight

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of Chicago for the holiday weekend. High's

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<v Speaker 1>of sixty and low's of forty four for Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost June, Chicago, get your shit together. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>May twenty third, and on today's show, we'll be chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with legendary hockey player Hillary Knight about her season two

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL reflections, her analysis of the current Walter Cup final

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<v Speaker 1>series between the Minnesota frosted Outawa charge, and her announcement

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<v Speaker 1>this week that next year's Winter Olympics will be her last.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus Northwestern's golf team mix history, got the FC's got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance at a championship and a women's hockey what

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that'll make you say, what the fuck? That's

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<v Speaker 1>all coming up right after this Welcome back slices, Happy Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you need to know today to golf. Northwestern

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<v Speaker 1>won the NCAA Women's Golf National Championship on Wednesday, upsetting

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<v Speaker 1>top seed at Stanford to win the Wildcat It's first

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<v Speaker 1>ever NCAA title in the sport. It was Northwestern junior

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<v Speaker 1>Diana Lee who secured the title, making a four foot

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<v Speaker 1>putt on the eighteenth hole for the win More Golf.

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<v Speaker 1>The LPGA has announced that Craig Kessler has been selected

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<v Speaker 1>as the organization's next commissioner. Kessler, the Chief Operating Officer

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<v Speaker 1>of the PGA of America, will take over from Molly Marcusseman,

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<v Speaker 1>who stepped down from the role in January. In a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>Kessler said, he's looking forward to redefining what's possible for

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<v Speaker 1>the organization. Quite honestly, we're looking forward to that too.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe in you, LPGA, come on to the NWSL.

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<v Speaker 1>The Boston Legacy expansion team has announced that the club

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<v Speaker 1>will play its inaugural season home games at Gillette Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>in Foxboro, Massachusetts, due to delays with the development of

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<v Speaker 1>the team's planned home venue, White Stadium. In a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>the club said, while construction at White Stadium is underway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not expected to be finished in time for kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>in March of twenty twenty six. Little background here, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>Since Boston was awarded an expansion team in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>the club's plans to renovate White Stadium have been mired

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<v Speaker 1>in controversy and slowdowns. The project is a public private one,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that renovation costs are being covered by both the

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<v Speaker 1>owners of Boston Legacy as well as public taxpayer funding.

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<v Speaker 1>The long term plan is for the Boston Legacy to

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<v Speaker 1>share the facility with other community and school teams. The

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<v Speaker 1>city and Boston Public Schools will be the owners of

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<v Speaker 1>the renovated stadium and will have priority in scheduling games there,

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<v Speaker 1>which could cause additional scheduling challenges for the Legacy down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. More soccer, The inaugural final of the CONCACAF

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<v Speaker 1>Women's Championship Cup is set. The NWSL's Gotham FC will

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<v Speaker 1>compete against Tigris UNL of Lega Mxfeminil this Saturday ten

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern kickoff. This tournament actually began last year, with

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<v Speaker 1>club teams from North, South and Central America competing in

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<v Speaker 1>the group stage from August through October in order to

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<v Speaker 1>advance to this week's semifinals and final. To reach the final,

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<v Speaker 1>Gotham defeated Club America of Lega Mxfeminial three to one

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, while Tigris Unal beat the Portland Thorns two ozho.

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<v Speaker 1>The winner of Saturday's championship game we'll secure a spot

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<v Speaker 1>in both the inaugural FIFA Women's Champions Cup in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and the FIFA Women's Club World Cup in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight. More soccer. Just because Gotham's competing for

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<v Speaker 1>NWSL Pride down in Mexico doesn't mean the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the league is on pause. There are two NWSL regular

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<v Speaker 1>season games tonight, with the Utah Royals hosting the Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>Pride at nine to thirty pm Eastern and the Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>Rain hosting the Washington Spirit at ten pm Eastern. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there are three games on Saturday, including one between the

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<v Speaker 1>top ranked Kansas City Current and last place Chicago Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Gee wonder who's going to win that one? That's right, Chicago, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I can feel it him a bones. We'll link to

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<v Speaker 1>the full NWSL weekend schedule in our show notes to

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<v Speaker 1>the PWHL where Minnesota and Ottawa met for Game number

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<v Speaker 1>two of the Walter Cup Finals on Thursday night, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ottawa now leads the series two oh or maybe Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>even at up one to one. Clearly we're recording this

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<v Speaker 1>before the final, but no matter what happened, we're excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see what happens in Game three on Saturday, when

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<v Speaker 1>the series heads to Minnesota. We'll link to the full

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL playoff schedule and results in the show notes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they should hopefully be a little more up to date

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<v Speaker 1>than this recording. Plus we'll have plenty more on the

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL later in this episode with Boston Fleet captain Hillary Knight. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>a fun little music and hockey crossover just happened in

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<v Speaker 1>Mini where a member of Jelly Rolls band was rocket

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<v Speaker 1>a Minnesota Frost jersey on stage as the band performed

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<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis this week, and my friend Brant Feldbin, who's

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<v Speaker 1>an agent over in the PWHL, sent over some photos

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<v Speaker 1>of a few of jelly Roll's band members skating with

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Frost coaches and reserve players who didn't make the

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Ottawa. Very cool to tennis, the French Open

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<v Speaker 1>gets underway on Sunday, with top seed Arena Sabalnka opening

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<v Speaker 1>her tournament against Kamila Rahimova and second seeded Coco Golf

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<v Speaker 1>set to take on Olivia Gadeki. Meantime, Igaspontek will be

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<v Speaker 1>aiming for her fourth straight title at Roland Garros, but

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<v Speaker 1>after a few months of rocky play, she fell out

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<v Speaker 1>of the top four heading into this year's competition, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's seated fifth overall. More French Open News, TNT, the

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<v Speaker 1>new US rights holder, has plans to shake things up

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<v Speaker 1>a little in the tennis world. They want to mike

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<v Speaker 1>up players for interviews with TNT's broadcast team during warmups,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as coaches for conversations in between sets, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to wait and see how it actually pans out,

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<v Speaker 1>per Offle announcing TNT has not yet approached players to

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<v Speaker 1>get their side off, to mikee them on the practice courts,

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<v Speaker 1>or to make up their coaches who are employees of

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<v Speaker 1>those players during matches. We'll see how it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA. And an update on a story you might

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<v Speaker 1>have seen on social media. Indiana Fever forward Sophie Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>has denied allegations that she was involved in an affair

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<v Speaker 1>with Phoenix Suns and Phoenix Mercury CEO Josh Bartlestein during

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<v Speaker 1>her time playing for the franchise, saying that the accusation

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<v Speaker 1>is false and calling out media organizations who published the

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<v Speaker 1>accusation without asking her for comment first. In a post

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, Cunningham wrote, in part quote, I am

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<v Speaker 1>deeply saddened by the recent false accusations made against me

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<v Speaker 1>by Jane Trailer, someone I do not know and have

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<v Speaker 1>never met. Let me be clear, his statements are untrue

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<v Speaker 1>and extremely hurtful. End quote. Cunningham's anger is warranted, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be clear on the fact. So

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<v Speaker 1>Trailer didn't make the accusation, though it was surfaced via

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<v Speaker 1>his lawsuit. Let me explain. The mnba's Phoenix Suns organization

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<v Speaker 1>has been under fire for several years, dating back to

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<v Speaker 1>previous ownership, with accusations of workplace misconduct and discrimination. Now

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<v Speaker 1>promises a big change were made by new owner Matteshbia,

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<v Speaker 1>who bought the Sons In Mercury in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>but the accusations have continued, and a lawsuit filed earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this month by Trailer mentions cunning him in it. Trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun's director of safety, security and risk management, accuses

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<v Speaker 1>the organization of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>his claims is that he warned the franchise that another

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<v Speaker 1>member of the organization was spreading that rumor about Cuttingham

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<v Speaker 1>and Bartolstein. He says his concerns were ignored even after

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<v Speaker 1>he told Bartlestein himself about the rumors. Earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>the Suns issued a denial to the statement of the lawsuit, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, quote the recent reports concerning Josh Bartlestein and

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Cunningham are entirely false and morally reprehensible. End quote

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<v Speaker 1>more WNBA news. According to multiple reports, on Thursday, owners

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<v Speaker 1>of the New York Liberty sold shares in the team

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<v Speaker 1>at a record valuation of four hundred and fifty million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>the highest valuation for a women's pro sports franchise. Per

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<v Speaker 1>the reports, the capital raised from the sale represents a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage share in the mid teens, and the money will

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<v Speaker 1>be applied toward construction of a practice facility in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>More hoops. This weekend is chock full of WNBA games

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy. Tonight's selection starts off strong with the Connecticut

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<v Speaker 1>Sun visiting the undefeated Minnesota Links at seven thirty pm Eastern.

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<v Speaker 1>Tune in as the Sun try to pick up their

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<v Speaker 1>first win of the season on Ion or WNBA League Pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there are two games on Saturday, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is the Indiana Fever hosting the defending champion New York

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty at one pm. Eastern on Ion that should offer

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<v Speaker 1>some great pace and offensive fireworks. Then on side Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>four more games, all available on League Pass or local

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast channels. Will link to that full WNBA schedule in

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<v Speaker 1>our show notes. A little motorsports news friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine leg is racing this Saturday in the NASCAR Expinity

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<v Speaker 1>Series bet MGM three hundred event at the Charlotte Motor

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<v Speaker 1>Speedway in North Carolina. She'll be racing in an ELF

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<v Speaker 1>branded car and fire suit, competing with the Jordan Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>Racing Team. Good luck Catherine, and good luck Elf. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, shout out to ELF for sending me a

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<v Speaker 1>goodie bag of stuff, including this yummy gummy Glow Reviver

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<v Speaker 1>melting lip balm, which has quickly become my new favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed. Finally, a little news for the put women's

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<v Speaker 1>sports on TV and make am easy to find. Crowd

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<v Speaker 1>streaming platform Fubo TV now has a women's sports hub,

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<v Speaker 1>making it easier for fans to find live games and documentaries.

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<v Speaker 1>The streaming platform already offered comprehensive WNBA coverage, as users

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<v Speaker 1>could already stream games on Ion, ABC, ESPN, CBS, and

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<v Speaker 1>NBA TV, but the new hub means that those games

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<v Speaker 1>will be easier to find. We got to take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break slices when we come back. It's Hillary Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>I caught up with her yesterday. I had of game

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<v Speaker 1>two of the PWHL finals stick around joining us now.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of the greatest hockey players of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>at Olympic gold medalist and three time Olympic silver medallist,

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<v Speaker 1>a ten time world champion and five time world runner up.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a member of Team USA, the captain of the

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL's Boston Fleet, and one of three finalists for the

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL's top honor, the Billie Jean King MVP Award. She

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<v Speaker 1>won the inaugural Isabelle Cup in the now defunct NWHL

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<v Speaker 1>with the Boston Pride. Was a two time national champion

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<v Speaker 1>with the Wisconsin Badgers, and she spent part of her

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<v Speaker 1>childhood living in my hometown of Lake Forest, Illinois. Her

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend is an Olympic speed skater. Her dog is a

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<v Speaker 1>cutie patuna named Bain. She coats her floors and pledged

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<v Speaker 1>so she can skate around on her socks, and she'll

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<v Speaker 1>cook you a meal using her patented slap chopped method.

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<v Speaker 1>Google it people, It's Hillary Knight. What's up, Hillary?

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going? What an intro?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Thank you? Is slap chopped? The most ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>video you've ever done? Or is there another that comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind?

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<v Speaker 2>No, honestly, I keep you know, my younger teammates find

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<v Speaker 2>these gems and they bring them up, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that they were buried. But the internet's a weird

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<v Speaker 2>place where, you know, it just keeps rolling, lives forever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to say yes, but I know you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we still coating the floors with pledge?

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<v Speaker 2>We are not? We are not. Yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>good learning experience. It was fun for a while, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when the dog starts slipping, it's just it's not

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<v Speaker 2>worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a feeling the dog might have come into

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<v Speaker 1>play there. What's the most fun thing you've gotten to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you've done a lot of cool stuff in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to the silly and ridiculous. Was it a TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>an awards show, a movie premiere? Like something cool you've

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<v Speaker 1>been asked to do or gotten to do over the

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<v Speaker 1>many years of being the face of hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I've I mean, I've had the privilege

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<v Speaker 2>to do so many fun things. I'd say the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing that pops to mind, and I know afterwards and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, I should have thought of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to meet Obama and that was like

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest thing. A friend like worked in the White

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<v Speaker 2>House at the time and he's like, oh, like, can

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<v Speaker 2>you just like come visit me for this thing? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, no problem, would love to just

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<v Speaker 2>like follow you around for the day. And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>just wait right here, and I'm like looking around. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this office looks like mighty important. And Obama

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<v Speaker 2>comes in. I was like, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that was That's definitely the top of mind

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<v Speaker 2>thing because I was like, it wasn't like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to meet the president's you know, after the

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics and stuff, and you kind of go through the

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<v Speaker 2>handshake line and you meet all of them. But to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have that touch point.

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<v Speaker 1>At one on one out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, holy moment. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>please be a hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Fan, right right. I was going to tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what you said, it couldn't top being on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Live, because that's my dream, but meeting Obama

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<v Speaker 1>might be the only thing, might be the only thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it like as soon as I said one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>another thing would pop up. But yeah, like Leslie Jones like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, Leslie Jones like Olympic coverage is epic.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when she was over there, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>no way, no way, this is happening. And so like

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<v Speaker 2>when that invite came through, it was crazy because there

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<v Speaker 2>was some sort of not a snowstorm, but something happened

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<v Speaker 2>and the train stopped running and I was in DC

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, like the day before, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to take the train into the city. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember calling my agent being like, oh my gosh, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like all the trains are down, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am not missing this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had an uber Oh my gosh, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I uber to New York City and I messaged the

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<v Speaker 2>guy like when he came to pick me up, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like just so you know, like is it okay

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<v Speaker 2>we drive to New York City? I know it's really

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<v Speaker 2>far away, and he's like yeah, sure, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another level. Like sometimes they cancel when you're like

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<v Speaker 1>going to the airport, but Neil kidding, who'd you expense

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<v Speaker 1>that one?

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<v Speaker 2>To? Oh? I sent now perfect, perfect, But we had

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<v Speaker 2>to stop like halfway a long way and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, this is like he could just like

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<v Speaker 2>leave me here. Yeah, this rest strap if you really

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to, oh man, And he gave me like the

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<v Speaker 2>second key to the car, and I was like cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, Okay, that's pretty epic. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wore my metal underneath my sweatshirt when I went

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<v Speaker 2>in to use the restroom because I was like in

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<v Speaker 2>the cars right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's really bad ass. I'm one day I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm gonna I've gone to watch twice. I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to be on it. I'm putting that in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe for the eight millionth time. If there is

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<v Speaker 1>a god, she must hear me now, and that will

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<v Speaker 1>need to happen before the day I die. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk the news of the week, because you have just

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<v Speaker 1>recently announced that the Milan Courtina Olympics will be your last.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, quite a heavy decision for me, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I've grown up in this program and been with USA

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<v Speaker 2>Hockey for so many years literally kind of while to

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<v Speaker 2>think about, like how long I've played so far, And

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<v Speaker 2>my team kind of brought it up to me, like

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<v Speaker 2>our like agency, it's like, what do you think, like

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<v Speaker 2>will this be your last one? Just like prompting questions, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my gosh, like I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even thought about that, And so I thought about it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot throughout this year and I was like, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel so fulfilled. I'm really confident with

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<v Speaker 2>where we are on the world stage. Obviously I want

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to keep on winning, but yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's time and the prospect of signing up

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<v Speaker 2>for another quad, I don't know, you know, so a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Yeah, So in terms of Olympics, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely twenty twenty six, and I would love to go

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<v Speaker 2>out with a bang. That way would be ideal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>anything can happen, right, Like, I still need to plot

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<v Speaker 2>my way and make the team and all that fun

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<v Speaker 2>things and stay healthy. But yeah, I'm really fulfilled from

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<v Speaker 2>an Olympic standpoint. Good, So that's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have said you planned to play in the

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL after Milan. No need to put a timeline on

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<v Speaker 1>that just yet. But what about Team Usay, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna play for another full cycle, will you stick

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<v Speaker 1>around after Olympics or does it feel cleaner to be

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<v Speaker 1>done after Milan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think I think I might stick around. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always had this if I can continue to make

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<v Speaker 2>a positive impact in that program, you know, and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of pass the torch in that way, make sure we're

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<v Speaker 2>in a good spot with you know, all the turnover

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<v Speaker 2>that naturally just happens after the Olympics. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know, I'm still one of the best players

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, so I'd love to continue that dominance

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<v Speaker 2>and bring more World Championship trophies back to the US.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, I think it's just it's exciting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>at first, it was really daunting to even think about

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<v Speaker 2>like an end point for anything. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, would it feels weird to sam done

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<v Speaker 2>after twenty twenty six and then keep playing pro And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to me, now those are two very separate things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, which is nice. You know, you also have

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<v Speaker 1>some records you can add too, so if you could

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<v Speaker 1>keep playing in World Championships, we can build those leads

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<v Speaker 1>you've got because recent World Championships. Just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, you helped Team USA to another win four

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<v Speaker 1>three o two win over Canada, your tenth World title,

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<v Speaker 1>which is insane, and then during the tournament you break

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<v Speaker 1>the record for most career assists at Worlds. You now

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<v Speaker 1>have the record at World's four assists, goals and points.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the predominant feeling you have when I read that,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say all that you've accomplished there, Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean I've played with some amazing players. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been on some great teams, so like the individual awards

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<v Speaker 2>feel uncomfortable, I'd say to me, And I think definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point in my life when I'm able to

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<v Speaker 2>have like a healthy reflection on everything, be like wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was a total badass. But no, the World

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<v Speaker 2>Championship wins like that to me is just epic. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>having ten is just I mean, that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 2>body of work right there. And to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of those teams, to help lead those teams, to be

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<v Speaker 2>a small or big piece in those teams. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool to have that number for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, I think it's really hard for

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<v Speaker 1>athletes who are as great as you have been and

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be to figure out do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just be done at some point, or do I want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people when I'm going to be done and

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<v Speaker 1>know that everyone at every one of my last games

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<v Speaker 1>will know that this is it. It's going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. Maybe all the opponents will give me

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<v Speaker 1>a gift and then it'll feel like a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't just focus on the hockey. But it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you are in a really a place of

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<v Speaker 1>peace about how it all goes down, and it's cool

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<v Speaker 1>that you do get to keep playing after the Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>for something meaningful, Like a few years ago, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot harder to know whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>worth returning to something like the professional league that you

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<v Speaker 1>were in, whether it was the money or the resources,

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<v Speaker 1>or the interest or the fans. Because the PWHL has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten off to such an incredible start when you choose

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<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye to the Olympics, you can still play

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<v Speaker 1>in a meaningful way after and not have it be

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<v Speaker 1>three years earlier than you want, because that just happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be what the Olympics cycle is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool totally, and I think too, like it's no

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<v Speaker 2>like I like to win, right, Like I love winning.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when I think about the inaugural season

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<v Speaker 2>with the PWHL, when I think about the landscape of

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<v Speaker 2>pro sports in the city of Boston, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>bring a Walter cumb back to that city. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is like that's gonna be the new Crosshairs, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, look out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah so and obviously this expansion, everything's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>blown up and you know, who knows what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want that so bad for this city too.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know when I was like, ah, like

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<v Speaker 2>being done with the Olympic and I still play pro

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, like is that weird? And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how is that weird? You know, I'm just saying, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not signing up for another quad. So I really

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<v Speaker 2>want to embrace this twenty twenty six cycle for sure

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<v Speaker 2>and really take it all in. And I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 2>that that question was prompted months ago so I could

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<v Speaker 2>now be more at peace with it. Yeah, and just hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it too, like it's great for like

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<v Speaker 2>our younger players on the team now, like you know,

0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.200
<v Speaker 2>it's whoa like we're gonna step up, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's so many great things that come out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Obviously it's my career is something also to

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<v Speaker 2>be celebrated, and it's cool because you know, even looking

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<v Speaker 2>I don't usually go into dms for Instagram or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but someone sent me one. But I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>on the couch the older day. I was like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what does this look like? And they just

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<v Speaker 2>said like thank you, like I inspired them in some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of way, and it was just it was cool

0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.600
<v Speaker 2>because we lace up, we play this game that we

0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.439
<v Speaker 2>love and sometimes, you know, we talk about it, but

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we lose that perspective of having that impact through

0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the thing that we love, and so like that was

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<v Speaker 2>like a really cool moment where it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of bittersweet, right, like yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just goes to show like what these careers can do

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<v Speaker 2>for people. Obviously given me everything, but you know, I'd

0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.399
<v Speaker 2>like to think that it's had positive impact on other

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<v Speaker 2>people's wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>So absolutely, you know, I want to get to your

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<v Speaker 1>goals with Boston. But just to wrap on the international stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious how it's felt playing Canada in the last

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 1>couple of major international tournaments. Now that you're not relying

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.919
<v Speaker 1>on centralization camps with national teams to prep, but you're

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.600
<v Speaker 1>prepping sort of together against the enemy, has it been

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<v Speaker 1>hard to hate them as much as you used to.

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Kind of and then know? At the same time, I

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<v Speaker 2>will say, like, it's hard from like a you don't

0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.040
<v Speaker 2>have the same touch points with like just Team USA

0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.879
<v Speaker 2>teammates all the time, and because of the ebbs and

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.280
<v Speaker 2>flows of the pro season, it's like sometimes you're in

0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.239
<v Speaker 2>survival mode trying to get to the next game and

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>recovering and whatnot, and you really have to be focused

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.920
<v Speaker 2>on the pro landscape and your team. But yeah, I'd

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 2>say that the only downfall is not having as many

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 2>touch points and being as connected I think, like off

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the ice and knowing you know, what everyone's going through

0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.240
<v Speaker 2>in personal lives and stuff. But we kind of just

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.800
<v Speaker 2>pick up where we left off when the team gets together.

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, in some ways, you almost want to beat

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<v Speaker 2>more now, you know. And in the spillover right, like

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, something happens in an international game, does

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>it spill over the Pro series? You know, vice versa.

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It's it's really interesting to kind of see how this

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>has become its own beast and you're seeing better games

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 2>now at the international level. It's not just US versus Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're you're all learning from each other in practice,

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>learning what each other does well what each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's talk p WHL. Because your Boston Fleet

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>finished with the same number of points as the third

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and fourth place squads, but just missed out on the

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 1>postseason after a loss on the very last day of action.

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 1>That is a heartbreaking way to see your season and

0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're that close. I'm so sorry to ask, I

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:51.120
<v Speaker 1>have to, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have only like a loss was just it was such

0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:02.400
<v Speaker 3>a heartbreaking experience to go through because I love our

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 3>fans and God blessed them for continuing to stay and

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:07.919
<v Speaker 3>cheer us on till the very last minute.

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like it just goes to show that every

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:16.239
<v Speaker 2>single game, every single point was standings matters, right, Like,

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>we had an opportunity to close out and secure a

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 2>playoff spot, you know, well in advance of that last game,

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately came down to the last game and the

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 2>fashion that we lost was super unfortunate. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating, and then to build off you know, the

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 2>year before we got really lucky. New York did some

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 2>wonky things for us, and we were able to find

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 2>a playoff fit out of nowhere, being what like twelve

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 2>or fifteen points back after Worlds something like that. Like

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 2>it was insane. So it every game matters, and you know,

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I think now being in year two, going to year three,

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's that's definitely gonna be a mindset shift

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 2>for us in Boston.

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what did you think was missing this season? I

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>know you did get some luck on the way to

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>making it to the finals last year, but you did

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.879
<v Speaker 1>end up in the finals. What was missing?

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you always want to be control of

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 2>your own destiny, right, and you never want to leave

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it up to chance. And you know two years we

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of we've done that, and so yeah, it uh,

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I joke around talking shop all the time,

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I think it's just every single shift matters,

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 2>and I think being able to generate and feed and

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 2>build off of one another's momentum will put Boston in

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>a better place next year.

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>So get everyone to understand the urgency, get everyone else there.

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and you know it's tough, like we were

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 2>playing a full contact like it is. It is not

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>fun sometimes, Like we just came back from break, now

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 2>we're up in Toronto against their fans. You know, it's

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 2>those are hard games. Like we have tough schedules, but

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I think when you realize everyone else has a tough

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 2>schedule in the league, it you know, it's go time

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 2>and we need to be ready to embrace an opportunity

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to really control, you know, where we want to be

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>in postseason. And yeah, and I think you know it's

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 2>hard is we have such a great room and so

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>like we have that going for us, and so that's

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 2>usually the hardest thing to have in a great room.

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>So we just need that to translate and to the

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>on ice, and I think we're gonna be in a

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 2>great spot.

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Season finale leaves a tough taste in your mouth, that

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>eight to one loss. And it's the Frost who you

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>lost to in the Walter Cup finals last season, So

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>safe to say they're the biggest rivals.

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they're big. I think everyone in the

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>league is, to be honest, like it's small enough. It

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.719
<v Speaker 2>feels like a blood bath out there, you know, regardless

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.360
<v Speaker 2>of who you're playing against. But yeah, I mean I

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>was looking at the schedule. I saw Fross as the

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>last game we're at home. You know, I think everyone's

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>thinking it. We had the three nothing loss in the

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Walter Cup Finals last year, and you know, we were

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 2>really excited going into that game, and it just, you know,

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.160
<v Speaker 2>it just goes a show, like a bounce here, bounce there.

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>It's it can be.

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the worst part of sports that I always felt

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that way, no matter how hype I got, no matter

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>how prep di I got, no matter how much I

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>felt like my mindset was right, Like you just don't know,

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and that sucks. It sucks, but it teaches you great

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>lessons for life. The season's now over, which means, of course,

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>in the hockey world, everyone went to get surgery. Everyone's

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>lower body injuries and upper body injuries and all the

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.479
<v Speaker 1>body injuries get revealed to be like extremely severe and

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone talks about how were they skating with that? So

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>tell us what yours was? What was your injury? What

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>was your surgery?

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think everyone's just banged up, but

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>mine is just uh yeah, I had to get surgery

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, So that was not ideal. But you know,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just part of the game. I don't know

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 2>if hockey players are just like built different. There's like

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>a level of stoicism, there's a love of craziness where

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 2>you just feel so impassioned to fulfill your duty and

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 2>responsibility to other teammates, and sometimes you just need to

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>take a step back and be like you were absolutely crazy.

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's taken care of. Yeah, I you know,

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>felt like I didn't have as big as an impact

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>towards like the end of the year. So yeah, hopefully,

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll be going into next year full fully

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>rolling and having fun and you know, slicing up the

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>game that I want to.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I noticed you didn't tell me what the injury was,

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and I will let that stand and move on. What

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>do you make of the current p WHL final matchup?

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>We've got Ottawa versus Minnesota. We're talking to you on

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Thursday ahead of game two. So so far, you and

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I have just watched one game in the series. The

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>listeners will have seen Game two by now. But you

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>played against these teams all seasons, so give us your

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>quick scouting report on them.

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the Frost plays with crazy transition speed,

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, They've got some great shooters on that team,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>so you want to keep them out of those Grade

0:26:56.560 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 2>A opportunities and limit those. And then on the flip side,

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>like Ottawa plays with this like controlled chaos and has

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>some people who can just pull plays out of make

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>plays out of nothing, which you know obviously tends to

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>be lethal when you're in these playoff games. So it's

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>a really exciting matchup. I think Ottawa doesn't necessarily get

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>enough credit for the type of team that they have,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>and I know, like I do not like playing against

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Ottawa or Minnesota, so you know, I'm curious to see

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>how this unfolds. You've got great goaltending on both ends,

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's I mean, that's why you saw a game

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>go into overtime.

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Gwyneth Phillips, that was actually surprising. Best keeper, I guess, tender.

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>What do we say in hockey? I always mix those up.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Just goalie best goalie, and so soccer and hockey always

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>get in my in my brain about that. But best

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>goalie in the league all season, had the best goals

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 1>against average, and then she just makes kind of a

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>boneheaded play coming out of her net, which ultimately lets

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the frost get into that game and then thankfully for

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Ottawa didn't end up killing them. But that's the whole thing.

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 1>Anything can happen, Even the best goalie out there can

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>make a mistake like that. You mentioned expansion that's set

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>for the PWHL heading into next season, Seattle and Vancouver

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>joining the league. What's the most exciting thing to you

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>about either those two cities or the league growing after

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>just two seasons.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think both more opportunity for women in sport obviously,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's a no brainer. That's I mean off

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the hop that's what we get, you know, to see

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the success of the league and they make the decision

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, we're expanding, and obviously they've got

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>their data and numbers that show that it was successful.

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I think as players, when we were all trying to

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>ide eate this thing, like we knew how successful it

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>would be, and so when people would ask us like

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>did you know how successfululd be? Like we've been pushing

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>for this thing for years, but Mark and kimber Walter

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>just you know, taking you know, an opportunity and really

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 2>building it into this thing that's going to succeed and

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>go the day since it's just incredible. And then in

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>terms of the actual locations of expansion, like Vancouver sounds

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>like it's an unbelievable setup, great hockey market. Obviously played

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>some awesome games out there, and Seattle is just like

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>a prime women's sports market. And I think people you know,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>on the East in the middle, I like, you forget

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like Seattle is here to play, especially with women's sports,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and so that's really cool. I think, you know, as

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>someone in the league, I'm like, shoot, we don't want

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>to lose our players. You know, you never want an

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.719
<v Speaker 2>expansion draft. So yeah, it is for players, it's depending

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>on what spot you're in your little it's a little

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>nerve wracking because there's so much uncertainty. You don't know

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. You don't know what our team

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>is going to look like. And for someone who really

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed our room and the players that we had on

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>our team, like, it's gonna be very tough. You kind

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 2>of have to start from from zero again.

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>So well, we talked about that on the show. The

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>expansion process the other day, five day exclusive signing window

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>with not protected players. So that's cool. It's sort of

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>this expansion team free agency before you even get to

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the expansion draft. What do you make of that process?

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And also teams only being able to protect three players.

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's wild, but you know, it's exciting.

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>It's exciting for fans. The you know, just the opportunity

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of expansion is exciting. You know, as a player, you're like,

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>what is happening? I don't want to lose you know,

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>certain you know players on our team because we just

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>went through this whole process two years now. I'm sure

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 2>gms on inauurgural teams are not having as well because

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>they plan for the future. But it just goes to

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>show like this is not necessarily development league right now.

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like a place in bank and you've got to

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 2>be ready to go. So from that standpoint, it's exciting

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>for fans. You know, you're probably gonna see more goal scored,

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, and all the fun things that come along

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>with more teams and more spots. So that's that's awesome.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>But do you think uncertainty is eating me up?

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, yeah, you're essentially such a veteran player

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that I would imagine your coaches and GM come to

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you wanting thoughts about things. Is there any chance they'll

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>come to you about who to protect or who to

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>who to look out for?

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, no, that's I don't get paid for that.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well listen, I do a lot of things. I

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>don't get paid for.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Hillary.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not how it. I know.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 2>There's definitely, you know, there's definitely conversations, you know, just like,

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, how are we feeling kind of thing? You know,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>what's your ideal scenario?

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, write three names down on a piece of paper,

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 1>you hold it and slip it across.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't know, but you're the only submission is that? Yeah? No,

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you know it's I think personnel is like super important

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>in our room too, And so you know, I keep

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about that, whether it's the US team or the Fleet.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, teams win championships. You know, people focus a

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>lot on top six time on ice, who's scoring goals,

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>but it is so much the in between that don't

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 2>necessarily get those like sexy metrics that win US championships.

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>So when I'm looking at like, you know, hopefully I'm

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 2>staying with Boston, right, and so when I'm looking at

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, how do we want to win a championship.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>How do we bring a championship here to Boston? You know,

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>what do those pieces look like? And so I think,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>like our staff understand like who I am and what

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I can bring, and you know what I harp on

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>sort of like as a leader, and I think all

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that will you know, hopefully align. And we're hoping, right

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>because we don't want to lose anybody.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>But what if they just don't protect you and then

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Hillary Knight leads Seattle to their first Walter Cup. Screw you, Boston.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>You know the pw W Hotels go ahead.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, like it's it's like a win

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>win for anybody, right, Yeah, you know, you have opportunity

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>where you are, and if you know, these things are

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>completely out of a player's control, and if you go

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else, you have an opportunity there.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're not even gonna we're not even going to

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about you getting an opportunity else. We're not doing that.

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>We're not doing that. The PWHL's success stems from a long,

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>hard fight from women's hockey players to demand better from

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>both the US Hockey Federation and from professional offerings, and

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that included a really notable twenty seventeen threat to boycott

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the World Championships on home soil if USA Hockey didn't

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>improve pay and conditions and resources. When you look back

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>at that fight and you consider where the game is now,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>what stands out.

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>To you The game wouldn't be where it is today

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>without that. Yeah, And that's not just saying like that

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>specific team, but that team went through it to learn

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>how to stand up and fight for something and do

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it so publicly and put everything on the line, but

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>also the strength of standing on shoulders before us, right.

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>It was you know, a team, team, team behind the

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>team effort to get something like that done. And you know,

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to give credit to Lambreau, Twins and John

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>langle Megs. You know, there's so many people that went

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>into being able to galvanize us in that way so

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>that when we were looking at the horizon what we

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>wanted for professional hockey, we knew what we wanted and

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>we could be stern and people looked at us and

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>said we were really crazy and we should be grateful,

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 2>as they always will. And you know, look where we

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>are for saying no, and it was a good no.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, there are some real lessons to

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>be taken from women's sports for the fights that we

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>have in the rest of our world in society, because

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>when you look at how things get done, the hockey team,

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the women's soccer team, fighting for equal pay across the board,

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>in these spaces, people are reaching back and asking for help.

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>It's people going to Cammi Granado and Billy Jean King

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and Julie Foudy. They're looking back and saying, how did

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you get this done? To Billy Jean back when you

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>had the one dollar contract, how did you get this done?

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Faudy says to her. And when we look at how

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the the connections and the strength and numbers affects the

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>outcomes of places that feel almost hopeless, like places that

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>do not seem like they're going to move off of

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>their spot. And then you get enough people together, and

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in your case, you're calling up every hockey player that

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>exists and saying they're going to call you, Like these

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>college kids whose dream it is to play for Team USA,

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna call you and they're trying to get you

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to be a scab and play in the World Championships

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>because we're not going to be there. You cannot do that.

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You cannot take this dream in this opportunity because it

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>will hurt the rest of women's hockey forever. And they

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it like that kind of solidarity is the

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of solidary we probably need to model in the

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>other fights that we have. And it's just like endlessly

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>impressive to me how women athletes and of the past

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and present rally together for those moments. I wonder what

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with USA Hockey is now.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's good. It is like to think

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>of the the growth that we've had in such a

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>small amount of times since twenty seven team because in

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 2>some ways like it was a long time ago, but

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 2>in many it wasn't. We have an incredible support staff,

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, fully fully employed behind us, which is awesome.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm always like it's a starting point

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. But yeah, I think you know, you're

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>seeing us play on a world stage like we've never

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 2>been able to compete before, and so that's exciting to

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 2>me that we've made so many strides in such a

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>short amount of time. And obviously contracts will come up

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 2>for renegotiation and we have to go through those battles again.

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>But I continue to think that we show up and

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>we prove our worth every single time, and I think

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the hardest things to do. And I'm

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>so glad you brought up BOUTI because you know, she

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 2>in John Laningle like she should be mentioned as a

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 2>name because she was the person that started. Here's the

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>catalyst for us to be like, oh, yeah, we should

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 2>do that, and we can do that, you know. Yes,

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I think we look at so many other like amazing

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 2>women and what they've done and you're like, oh wow,

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 2>like that's great, but you don't feel like you can

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>be a part of that conversation. And so like she

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>was that that catalyst for us. But yeah, it's you know,

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it's incredible what you're able to accomplish as a group.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 2>And as you put it, it was a dream. You know,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not nothing tangible really that you can ask someone

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>not to do. And so I think that was what

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>was so powerful as we assembled this old fashioned phone

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>tree and had all these moments if you know, can

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 2>you can you say no to this because we promise

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be better?

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Can it even a dream? Ye?

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Sick? So yeah, it's cool, you and I have talked

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>on my various shows over the years, uh, probably a

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>decade plus going back, and we've often discussed the pressure

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that women athletes feel, not just to be the very

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>best at their sport and everything that that entails, all

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the workouts in time and energy, but also sell tickets,

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>promote the game, foster growth, be a role model. And

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you have been carrying the load for women hockey for decades,

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the only household names in America in the sport.

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>That's it's getting better, But do you still feel all

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that pressure?

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I feel less pressure now that we have the league.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I think the CBA negotiations, I think anybody who was involved,

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 2>like every everyone had their own I think lends to it.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 2>But in many ways it almost ruined me, I think

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 2>in my human life, because it was so exhausting and

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>so meaningful, and you felt the weight of all the

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>other players that you brought on this journey, and you

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>knew that we could not fail and the worst thing

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>would be to fail, and so that was that was

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>really tough and really trying, and now being in your

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>two to like take a breath and be like I

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>get to just go play now, you know, that's nice.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 2>There will always be those pressures I think of, you know,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 2>how you carry yourself, how you want to have an

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>impact on people. I think that's just innatly what comes

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 2>along with that Olympic space and being a leader in

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>your sport, and that's what it is specifically also too

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>in women's sports. People are going to, you know, really

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>dive down and look what you are you interested in

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and what you believe in, and really pick that apart.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 2>But I think that just comes with the territory.

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I think about the impression that you

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>can leave on the next generation of players who are

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just starting in the league, and how important it is

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>for you to make sure that they know how hard

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you fought for it, because we're seeing that across so

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>many women's sports spaces, where the folks who are just

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>now retiring or maybe retired a year or two ago

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>are like, damn, look at the money they're making in nil,

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>look at the contracts they're getting, and it's like they're

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>proud that they did that, but they're also like, m

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you lucky ducks, Like look what we help to make

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>for you. So you're still around so you can tell

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>them all, Hey, this is what it looked like when

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I started, and this is how different it is. So

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>be grateful, but also keep pushing because it can all

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>be taken away. Don't keep fighting for it in the

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>right ways, which is which is pretty cool. You just

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the CBA, so I'm going to end on this.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I read an article a couple of years ago where

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, maybe after hockey you'd like to go back

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to school after the CBA negotiations. Is that still something

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to do or have you decided to hit

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 1>in the books? Is maybe not the thing for you? Well?

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 2>So I always like I went to Wisconsin was history major.

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 2>I have sort of always been like attracted to the

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>law right in that way and being able to have

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>an impact there. And it's funny because during COVID I

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>ended up getting my MBA because I was like, I

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>need structure and I went, wow, congrats, yeah thanks, So

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>like I wanted to, I didn't. It's so funny, like

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 2>this imposter syndrome thing. I was like, I've just been

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>playing hockey my whole life, like I want to make

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 2>sure what.

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Am I doing with myself.

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm a waist exactly. But then all the life lessons

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I've learned in this sport are so invaluable and like

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I can apply those anywhere. But yeah, so structure was

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 2>good for me during COVID with that, but I was

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 2>looking this far. I was like, is there an online

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 2>law program? But no, I don't think I will. The

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>LSA to me is just daunting and then.

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>You can do it. You can do it, Hillary Knight,

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that squire has a real nice ring to if not

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>in life, it's a TV show. I would watch it.

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I would watch it. There's so many things I want

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 2>to do and there's just it feels like there's not

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 2>enough time. You know. I love that the same way.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I do for sure, but also I feel

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>like I love that coming from an athlete. So many

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>folks are so lost when they're done because they're like,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm only forty, but somehow I'm done with this whole

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 1>purpose of my life, Like what do I do now?

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>To me, it sounds like you're both wanting to keep

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>playing for as long as you can and also very

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>much like excited about all the time you'll have to

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>do other things after. Yeah, what a gift. Like that's

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>such a great place to be.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean just like h Like, I want to

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 2>invest in women's sports, right, and I want to keep

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>like talking about women's sports. I mean, so those are

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>like the two like things for me that I just

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>absolutely love to do. So awesome. Yeah, I think, you know,

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously there's a transition point in time and I've been

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>playing for so long, and I will definitely be heartbroken

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>in my own way for not being able to wake

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 2>up and just train and do that for my job.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think, you know, I'm so fulfilled

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 2>at the same time as well.

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love the Walter Cup Championship after bringing the

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Walter Cup to Boston, to Boston, yes, and then potentially

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 1>helping bring a team to Chicago so all your Lake

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Forest fans can watch. That's even Chicago too, and.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Try we're trying to go, you know, honestly to like

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Florida would be great. Like I'm just thinking places like

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I want to travel, putting back.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>To the list. Yeah, oh yeah, that's easy, good travel

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>spot throw some places in Europe on there. I've always

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go to Prague. Why not? Well, we always

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>love catching up with you. Congrats on all the success,

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the recovery from surgery and we look forward to

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>what's next.

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much to Hillary for taking the time. We

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>got to take another break when we come back. Oh,

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>what the fact from the not too distant past, Welcome

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>back slices, It's time for another What the fact? We

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>talked with Hillary about her role helping demand more from

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>USA Hockey back in twenty seventeen and how important the

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>collective bargaining negotiations were and getting the PWHL off the ground.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>That work has helped create a very different landscape for

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>women's hockey players compared to the one Hillary played in

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>after graduating from college. So let's go back in time.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>The year is twenty twelve and Hillary Knight just graduated

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>from the University of Wisconsin as a two time NCAA champion.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>She's a regular member of the US national team, but

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>away from those team camps and tournaments, the women's hockey

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>landscape is a tough place. She initially joins the Boston Blades,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a team in the Canadian Women's Hockey League. Want to

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>know how much money ce WHL players made back then?

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Nothing nada. That league operated as a nonprofit and while

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>some expenses were covered, players were not paid to play hockey.

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>After a couple seasons with the Blades, Hillary joins the

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>NWHL's Boston Pride in twenty fifteen. The NWHL was historic

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in that it was the first league to pay women's

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.439
<v Speaker 1>hockey players, but salaries were low and benefits like health

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>insurance and housing stipends were not included. Then salaries were

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 1>slashed in season two as the league ran into financial trouble.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty bleak. All that to say, women's hockey

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>has come a long way in just a few short years,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>which makes it all the more exciting to see the

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>PWHL not only thrive but expand already after just two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>rate and review, y'all. It's easy. Watch the Atlanta dream

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<v Speaker 1>play A Society cash App Statement Court rating ten out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten Amazing Esthetics review. The Dreams home opener was

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<v Speaker 1>against the Indiana Fever Thursday Night at Statefarm Arena, and

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<v Speaker 1>the squads hooped on a very special court designed in

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration with cash App and the woman owned streetwear brand

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<v Speaker 1>play A Society. This court is gorgeous, y'all. We'll link

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<v Speaker 1>to pictures of it in our show notes. Between the lines,

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<v Speaker 1>the hardwood is black with a slightly darker black, and

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<v Speaker 1>the painted area and the space surrounding the court is

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<v Speaker 1>a gradient going from an elect green to a forest green.

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<v Speaker 1>Mid court is where things really get good. In bold

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<v Speaker 1>white letters in the text you typically see on all

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<v Speaker 1>of play As Society's popular shirts and other apparel are

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<v Speaker 1>the words pay some respect to women's Sports. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have seen the shirt that Esther Wallace's brand collabbed on

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<v Speaker 1>with cash Apps. Just like that. Shout out to the

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<v Speaker 1>dream because this court gives the arena a super intense vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like what a court might look like in Gotham City.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you got the game, you know it looked

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<v Speaker 1>awesome on TV too. The court will now be donated

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<v Speaker 1>to a local youth organization and the pay Some Respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Women's Sports statement will be featured on the Dreams

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<v Speaker 1>practice jerseys and on March that's available to fans on

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<v Speaker 1>the play A Society website. We'll link to that in

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<v Speaker 1>our show notes. There's some other really great merch there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now's your turn rate and review. Thanks for listening, slices,

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<v Speaker 1>see you tomorrow. Good game, Hillary, Good game to that

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<v Speaker 1>Do you expecting players to compete in a contact sport

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<v Speaker 1>without ensuring that they have medical coverage? Good Game with

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network. Our producers are

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder. Our editors are

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Rutter, Britney Martinez, Grace Lynch and Gianna Palmer. Our

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<v Speaker 1>associate producer is Lucy Jones and I'm Your Host Sarah

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